🔧│keyboard_modding

[calm pulsar]

@sick shard

[sick shard]

in that case i shall try to convince him

maybe snappy tappy might work on strategy game

[cyan lark]

Probably not. I can't think of a time I needed to input opposite cardinal directions in a strategy game in quick succession.

[calm pulsar]

yeah 😄

[cyan lark]

I mean, it will work, sure, I don't think it will be beneficial.

Rapid trigger maybe if they're really spamming their inputs.

[stiff zealot]

hi

it is done boys

[sick shard]

anyway guys never use mondial relay for shipping

they are slow

[stiff zealot]

hey samton

[sick shard]

hello

[stiff zealot]

how i activate the racing fuction

yk what i mean?

[sick shard]

for?

[stiff zealot]

it lights up only the numbers

and awsd

oh

[sick shard]

idk i do not have keyboard assembled yet

i am missing switches

[stiff zealot]

i found it

its the racing profile

on wootility

[sick shard]

hehehe

[dusty wren]

for gmk norse keycaps should i go for tofu redux dark blue or black or gray

[tawdry tree]

Random is beyond odd, not sure why anyone in their right mind would opt to do that.

even if it’s half off

[visual ore]

Dark Blue........

Maybe

[tawdry tree]

Dark blue would look better than grey I think.

[dusty wren]

like it currently look slike this

and i was plannign tgo get this deskpad

[visual ore]

Hard to tell because the blue tofu looks different from the GMK

GMK is more Green-Bluish

[tawdry tree]

Actually I think grey would look better than dark blue

[visual ore]

^

Yeah

Thinking the tofu blue might be too bright

[dusty wren]

why do the pics all have diff colors

[tawdry tree]

renders and light

[dusty wren]

so u think the blue wouldnt go w the norse

w these pics

[tawdry tree]

it would, but I think grey would a bit better

I’ve never seen the blue or the gray tofu irl

fyi

I do have norse but it’s in a copper color case

for now^

which doesn’t look terrible

[tawdry tree]

https://youtu.be/-N_Cg2yvfDc

it’s not norse blue

it would still look good though

[dusty wren]

u think the gray one would go w the deskpad

[visual ore]

Yeah I keep flipflopping

Time to get both

[fast nacelle]

Is there any cases that fit the wooting that have less height too it?

Is the redux a lower profile than the stock?

[calm pulsar]

freebird60 is lower profile than redux

redux is higher profile than stock

[polar girder]

Uhh

Front lip of redux matches writing wrist rest perfect tho

[obtuse fossil]

Wooting ? If so case ?

[visual ore]

Not Wooting

[obtuse fossil]

Yea didnt look like it xD

[fast nacelle]

Ty is the freebird60 lower than stock?

[stone flax]

what wooting has a blocker and is tsangan and is 65%

craziest wooting ever icl

[calm pulsar]

not sure, maybe not

[stone flax]

@calm pulsar i sold my neo65.... :<

[calm pulsar]

now you only got a wooting?

[dusty wren]

hey when i put my wooting into a tofu redux does the tofu redux need any foam

does it come w any foam

[polar girder]

DM. unrelated

[stone flax]

and an hhkb and a mech tkl, and an incoming 60%

xd

[fast nacelle]

Alright thank u

[polar girder]

Yes

[calm pulsar]

ah right I remember you have an hhkb
which 60% you're waiting for?

[stone flax]

neo60cu

[calm pulsar]

sex

65% layout sucks anyways

🤠

[stone flax]

yaya

[stone flax]

aitchaitchkaybee

[calm pulsar]

if I even work in an office, I will be rolling with one of those

[stone flax]

im gonna lube this

idk if sliders or just the stabilizers

and i still havent settled on 3203 or 3204

TwT

[calm pulsar]

are those lubes?

[dry rune]

WHY DOES MY KB SOUND SO HOLLOW

[modern surge]

Kinetic sand

[stone flax]

ya

tribosys

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/trenbolone-acetate-gif-27378233

[stone flax]

@calm pulsar

i just got money for a free salvation

do i just turn my frog into an mx build

[calm pulsar]

🤔

[calm pulsar]

well your HE frog is already super good sounding, not sure how it would compare with salv

[dry rune]

These clips on the switches break so easily when removing them

[sacred elm]

because they have shit design

[stone flax]

gateron momenmt

[sacred elm]

no i meant lekkers and raws

[stone flax]

liar moment

[sacred elm]

delulu moment

[calm pulsar]

uhh I think these clips are pretty much the same on all switches, even MX ones

[sacred elm]

both lekkers and raws have issues when you pull them, and you 100% break clips on them

[ionic breach]

damn really?

[calm pulsar]

doesnt affect anything tbh, and I had them break on jades and raws

[ionic breach]

mines fine

[sacred elm]

compared to gateron switches, hejin switches have shit design

thats why it happens

switches are literally stuck in the plate

[tawdry tree]

compared to gateron’s recent switches* let’s not forget Hejin copied gateron and didn’t change the design to this day

😂😂

TTCs are peak, easy to remove and easy to open

[sacred elm]

my regular jades were fine on 80he when I pulled them, I one tap jade pros, but broke like 5-7 raws while pulling and rgb windows were flying left and right 😆

W build 👍

[tawdry tree]

compared to raws, yeah because you can’t use the diffuser side to pull from

just the bottom

that’s it

I haven’t seen separate light diffusers done right

it’s the same problem for Haimu’s as well

[calm pulsar]

I hate separate diffusers

[tawdry tree]

I don’t really understand why Geon went with that tbh

maybe it makes it easier for the mold

of the top housing

🤷‍♂️

[sacred elm]

geonworks

[stone flax]

i love geonworks

[stone flax]

skill issue

[calm pulsar]

geon does work indeed

[tropic urchin]

Benom HE

[sacred elm]

youre not funny

at all

[stone flax]

u keep saying skill issues

[sacred elm]

and youre being cringe

everyday

[stone flax]

anime pfp

dont start

[sacred elm]

UwU

[stone flax]

;0

[sacred elm]

fortinite

[calm pulsar]

lol

[sacred elm]

babagee

[chilly mural]

sno should recieves his lucifer HE

[dry rune]

Daymm it looks so nice

[chilly mural]

today

[calm pulsar]

come on dudes use all that HE goodness for the argument

[stone flax]

i use hall effect to its fullest extent by arguing about hall effect

🧠

what are video games?

[calm pulsar]

I shit talk on wow using 8khz polling rate

[dry rune]

It's so weird to type without keycaps

[vapid oracle]

Jade pros >

[sacred elm]

geonworks

[stone flax]

geonworks better

🥱

[calm pulsar]

raw stem + black knight top

[vapid oracle]

Negative

[dry rune]

these sound so smooth wtf

Didnt realise lekker v1's were that bad

[vapid oracle]

They pretty bad😅😅

[dry rune]

Yeah these feel so premium compared to them

[polar girder]

Same

[polar girder]

https://tenor.com/view/preference-glarses-mx-brown-cherry-mx-brown-keyboard-gif-21044520

[ionic breach]

man are they any alternatives to black knights

[polar girder]

Should I do this? Lol

[ionic breach]

kinda dont wanna drop 100 bucks for 1/3rd of a switch

[icy dew]

Is there an actual sound test with that? Is it worth buying both to mix and match them lol

[calm pulsar]

nahh just get pros or raws lol

[polar girder]

Lekker v2

[polar girder]

Well I’m gonna get raw but already have BK

[ionic breach]

they work?

[polar girder]

Work for what?

[vapid oracle]

What type of Raws ?

[polar girder]

Yeah they’re clean open bottom switches

[ionic breach]

jade bottom, raw stem

[calm pulsar]

also this is fr4 I believe

[polar girder]

Oh sorry nvm I wasn’t privy to the convo

I don’t feel like buying Jade pro and Raw lol

[calm pulsar]

just get one of them lol

[polar girder]

Yeah I want light switch so I’m going to go lightest raw I think

[icy dew]

I wish I knew what types of things influence the sound profile. If I was confident enough I would actually buy several switches to make the best one

[polar girder]

Otherwise I’d probably just go jade pro

[calm pulsar]

jade pro or raws are an easy choice if you want similar sound to what I attached

after that the plate material affects the sound the most

[icy dew]

Plate material is the thing the switches are on right?

[calm pulsar]

yeah the thing that holds switches in place

[polar girder]

Case material, mounting style, case “insulation” type, plate material, plate pad type or lack of, switch, stabs, keycaps

[calm pulsar]

true, just trying to keep it simple for them xd

[icy dew]

No that's fine

[polar girder]

Jump in the deep end, the waters fine

[icy dew]

Before I mod it I'ma need to do a lot of research

[polar girder]

https://tenor.com/view/so-good-wink-smile-oh-yeah-its-true-gif-24163876

Yeah I mean a lot of modding is trial and error

Like sound tests are really only useful if someone does A/B testing

[calm pulsar]

btw I was a big fan of you when I played minecraft, Diamond from Minecraft

[polar girder]

But even still; your own config might result with different results

[icy dew]

🔥

[stone flax]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15XmznA5T9d4PkfBG0TDS82ou6ihBh0oqr8Aux24SNz0/edit?gid=220737666#gid=220737666

wont apply as heavily

but still a good place to start

[icy dew]

This is cool, thanks

[dry rune]

Should I add the foam that came in with the tofu redux case or only keep the killmat?

[polar girder]

Might not fit idk try with and without

Redux case foam pretty thin tho. Might work

[dry rune]

Yep

[stone flax]

me when no brass weight:

[tawdry tree]

Black Knight’s top housing isn’t special. So you can use any Hejin top housing apart from Raptors’.

[calm pulsar]

the gold flakes though

same @ionic breach

[tawdry tree]

I agree @ionic breach

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, the gold flakes are worth $100 more.

[calm pulsar]

I like doing the "asda asda asda asda"
with the spacebar in there

[tawdry tree]

asda is odd bro

asd

asd asd asd

[calm pulsar]

lol it is because of socd it seems haha

[tawdry tree]

oh lmao

[calm pulsar]

if I try to do "ad ad"
it turns out like ada ada ada ada

[sacred elm]

wait arc, so I can replace blackknights top with lekker v2 ?😳

if I decide to make frankenswitches

I dont have black knights rn

[calm pulsar]

hmm I guess since Aligner says the Heijin top is the same
I never had lekker v2s or heijins so can't tell for sure

[sacred elm]

I think Ive tried that and it didnt work at all

but I might be wrong

are you sure? @tawdry tree

that jade pro bottom and lekker v2 top can work

lemme try rn

😳

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

Raw HE stem with any Hejin top apart from Raw HE’s top itself won’t reduce wobble in any way though, just an fyi.

why did you do it/like it again @calm pulsar was it for feel?

or looks?

[calm pulsar]

initially I tried it for the looks with the gateron stem
but it turned out to be very tight

later when I got raws I tried this with the raw stem and it still had the same snappy topout and good tolerances while less tightness issues

[tawdry tree]

I see

[calm pulsar]

so the latest version is

black jade bottom (just for color, any jade/jade pro bottom works)
black knight top
raw stem
also jade pro spring cause I like the length

[sacred elm]

wait it actually works lol

[tawdry tree]

Did you try one with the Raptor’s stem? An all black switch would look cool too.

[calm pulsar]

yeah that might've been cool, but I never had raptors
never desired them cause they were open bottom and I wanted a more different switch

[tawdry tree]

Hejin only has 3 different top housings; the Raptors’, everything in between and then the Raw HEs’.

[dry rune]

Soo guyss should I use it without the redux foam or with the foam i want ur thoughts I checked and it fits with the foam on top

[tawdry tree]

Ah yeah, fair.

[sacred elm]

so this is actually arcs frankenswitch, but top is just lekker😳

this might sound peak lemme check

[dry rune]

And would it make any difference

[tawdry tree]

How you like it is what matters. Try both, see which you like the best.

I don’t think it’d be much different though.

[dry rune]

Kk

[dry rune]

Yep

[calm pulsar]

personally I'd use some simple foam, not that sticky stuff or kilmat
speaking from experience cause it either made sound dead or killed it completely

[dry rune]

I'm still waiting for my lube etc to be shipped so the stabs wouldn't sound that horrible

[sacred elm]

this thing has basically 0 bottom wobble

what the fuck

[dry rune]

I mean it was hollow af before

[tawdry tree]

is it different compared to stock Jade Pros?

[calm pulsar]

is it lekkers?

[tawdry tree]

Friction pad 🙂‍↕️

[dry rune]

Yes now I put in the geon raws

[vapid oracle]

Bruh I’m ngl this sounds like poop

[calm pulsar]

yeah friction pad is actually nice

[dry rune]

I KNOW

[dry rune]

What is that?

[sacred elm]

stem literally doesnt wobble when you bottom out, there is some wobble with jade pros and raws stock, this might be actually goated, if sound isnt mid, but it shouldnt 👀

[dry rune]

What is friction pad

[vapid oracle]

You can get one off wooting website

[sacred elm]

its almost has box stem stability i swear, 0 wobble when you bottom out

[tawdry tree]

Interesting, I heard the Jade Pro bottom housing is slightly different, maybe that’s the cause of the reduced wobble in combination with Raw HE’s stem.

[dry rune]

Maybe i'll buy it someday

[calm pulsar]

a different way of mounting
look for it on wooting website

[tawdry tree]

I’m guessing it’s the center hole which is slightly angled on the Jade Pros.

Can’t confirm for myself yet though.

[calm pulsar]

hm so maybe it will even be beneficial for me to use jade pro housing

but at this point im satisfied so don't want to bother for some time haha

[tawdry tree]

Bottom, yeah. Top, probably not.

[calm pulsar]

yeah the top is actually very bad if used with raw stem

cause gateron stem is simply bigger in dimensions

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

[sacred elm]

@tawdry tree forget

it literally cant fit

[calm pulsar]

woah careful

[tawdry tree]

Check the clips on the side.

[sacred elm]

yea i checked

[tawdry tree]

This only happens if the top housing doesn’t quite fit the bottom.

[calm pulsar]

it is probably due to softness of pc plate

I feel like

it would be easier in a disassembled state

could be wrong

[sacred elm]

lekker v2 top doesnt properly fit with jade bottom

[dry rune]

,

[tawdry tree]

Interesting, so the Jade Pro bottom is quite different from the Jade bottom.

[vapid oracle]

Bruh chill you bout to break that shit hahahah

[tawdry tree]

That’s a bummer.

[dry rune]

1111111111111111111111111111111111111111

pp

[tawdry tree]

2?

[stone flax]

urge... resisting... to say... "skill issue"..

[calm pulsar]

tbh I kinda thought they were very close when I tried them for my frankenswitch

[sacred elm]

I did it

...

[tawdry tree]

Man

Did you force it in?

[calm pulsar]

[tawdry tree]

Or pushed the housings and they fit properly?

[sacred elm]

ok this might be goated

[vapid oracle]

[sacred elm]

G is frankenswitch

H is jade pro

[vapid oracle]

Frank sounds weird

Imo

[sacred elm]

in a video yea i just noticed, but irl it sound pretty good

[vapid oracle]

[tropic urchin]

Ye

[vapid oracle]

It’s always better to hear it in person I agree..

[tawdry tree]

Wouldn’t have expected the sound to change that much.

[calm pulsar]

I also always compare the topout specifically

[tawdry tree]

The bottom out sound.

[sacred elm]

its sticking

[tawdry tree]

I think I know what’s happening

Give me a minute

[sacred elm]

yea this isnt usable unless i can try anything else, it sticks

[calm pulsar]

with frankenswitching there can always be some stickiness since the molds of the parts were not really designed for each other

but it can also be what makes the sound cleaner

I cleaned all parts of mine and relubed to make sure different lubes do not interfere

[sacred elm]

sure but there is some resistance when I press

its too tight for raw stem

it sounds pretty good irl tho

[calm pulsar]

yeah I had to let a couple of mine break in in time, but yeah it varies like that

if it's too bad on yours can always go back to pure jade pros

[sacred elm]

I can try regular jade?

bottom

[dry rune]

Holy shit it sounds so good now

wtfff

Finally

[calm pulsar]

yeah they might be quite different after all

[dry rune]

I'm so happy

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[calm pulsar]

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[dry rune]

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[calm pulsar]

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[dry rune]

Ok the space still sounds like ass

Or like every big keycap

sounds ass

even like the capslock

[calm pulsar]

stab lubing, tuning

[pine bluff]

ye why does wooting space shound so bad

[calm pulsar]

capslock doesnt have stabs

[dry rune]

I know

It sounds ass tho

Hmmm

[calm pulsar]

actually caps might be one of hardest keys to achieve good sound on haha

cause it's a big key with no stabs

[dry rune]

I just with it could sound the same from literally every place

[calm pulsar]

friction pad would help a bit with that

to even out the sound a bit

at least in my experience

[dry rune]

ok prob gonna order it soon

so does it like go in between the pcb and plate

[stone flax]

impossible

[dry rune]

so

what

where does it go

[stone flax]

ur asking for the rewriting off physics

[dry rune]

what

[calm pulsar]

imperfect, just like our existence...

[stone flax]

it cant sound the same from every place

[tawdry tree]

Okay maybe not. I measured the Raw HE stem’s pole as 3.95mm and the Jade’s as 3.97mm, I doubt this tiny difference could cause friction (that’s assuming the Jade Pro’s stem is identical to the Jade’s).

[dry rune]

I know

[stone flax]

keyboards abide by physics

[dry rune]

Wait after changing the switches do I need to do something

like

[calm pulsar]

when I compared in hand they seemed identical, but again I don't have measuring tools

[dry rune]

recalibrate

or anything

[stone flax]

jaybe, jaybe not

[calm pulsar]

the board does it for you

[tawdry tree]

just make a keyboard that doesn’t lol fp

[dry rune]

kk

[calm pulsar]

maybe you'd need to adjust actuation point if you find it too fast

but other than that should be good

[dry rune]

we'll see

wait does this mess with the actuation

[tawdry tree]

Visually they look identical from the pictures I’ve seen, so they most likely are but then the friction is kind of a mystery.

[calm pulsar]

since the travel distance is lower on your new switch, the actuation will now happen even faster

[sacred elm]

way less stickiness with regular jade bottom

[calm pulsar]

cause 4.0mm on wooting software is kinda like a percentage

[dry rune]

well I can def see it "misinput"

[calm pulsar]

if it does just add some to the actuation point, ez

[dry rune]

I hate the new wooting ui

older one was better

and easier to use

for me

[pine bluff]

i strongly disagree

but ok

[calm pulsar]

the new? doesnt seem much different from a couple of years tbh

[pine bluff]

wait what are wootility v1 v2 and v3

ive only seen 4 and 5

[chilly mural]

ooo

[glacial wind]

Will throw in a few for a quick soundtest then record a proper soundtest for the mod site later

[stone flax]

👅

[glacial wind]

Super rough and dirty sound test - ttc pom vs jade pro vs geon lucifer

They’re definitely more in the cheaper box stem category. Not as tight as ttc magnetos, you can notice the box stem wiggle more and the sound isn’t as clear as the other 2 switches

[harsh dove]

[uneven cradle]

Any stickyness

[dry rune]

I need a brass weight for my spacebar ong

[glacial wind]

No stickiness, so at least they’re not jade max friction issue filled lol

[sacred elm]

jade pros

[stone flax]

geonworks raw he 👅

[sacred elm]

actually not bad for 0.2$ switches

[glacial wind]

You can hear the wobble difference vs ttc pom

[fluid ravine]

um ew

LMAO

[glacial wind]

First = lucifer, second = kom pom

[harsh dove]

gross

[fluid ravine]

ok is it just me or does the jade pros sound "wet" in my ears

[sacred elm]

ttc has indeed 0 wobble lmao

[fluid ravine]

is that the spring im hearing
i feel like im tripping

[stone flax]

nice and oily

give it time

👅

[fluid ravine]

lawd have mercy mj

😭

haha

[stone flax]

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wait

when a company says

[glacial wind]

The lucifers do come decently lubed at least, although not a fan of the wobble lol

[stone flax]

through date

does it mean

until date

or

ends on date

[fluid ravine]

[stone flax]

AHAH

its still avail

🤗

[chilly mural]

It doesn't sound bad, can't really expect much for a $0.25 switches

[glacial wind]

Yeah I don’t think they’re the worst. Put them in same category as the swagkey peony and gateron gamings where it’s tight but not as tight as the ttc kom and feel suffers a bit due to that

[ionic breach]

afaik through means until the end of that last day

[calm pulsar]

so ttc kom are like the tightest out there rn?

since everyone is comparing with them

[glacial wind]

yeah the rgb/pom still the tightest stock switch out of any of them

there's still a tiny bit of box stem feel like if you wiggle at bottom out vs a jade pro/raw he you notice some movement, but compared to the other box stems it's much more reduced

[calm pulsar]

I see

[stone flax]

@glacial wind comparison to deng gods?

😝

[glacial wind]

i refuse to buy deng gods lol

[calm pulsar]

the god damns xd

[stone flax]

is there a sad tongue emoji

[glacial wind]

i gotta finish mod site up and see about partnering up properly before I start investing in the awful switches which no one really should buy

[tropic urchin]

They’re aight, nothing to lose sleep over not reviewing

Ok sound, with some interesting wobble

[jade storm]

@fluid ravine It's time, friend.

[fluid ravine]

[thorn spire]

guys is it worth switching from gateron jade to raw he?

[fluid ravine]

[chilly mural]

Yesh

[sacred elm]

yea either jade pro or geon raw

both will be an upgrade

[tawdry tree]

Lucifers are either very similar or identical to Deng Gods (and Hejin’s Sticky Rices), I wouldn’t describe them as awful if you find Lucifers not the worst.

[marsh saffron]

My xray set is here

[tawdry tree]

I hope Geon made some changes though. Would be more interesting than just a recolor.

[marsh saffron]

It's beautiful

[tawdry tree]

No issues?

[marsh saffron]

No issues at all

[tawdry tree]

😌

[marsh saffron]

Batch 1.5 either was better or just got lucky

Either way W

[visual ore]

Okay might just be me but wow those TTC popped

[visual ore]

Let us know if it stays that way. Been holding off the translucent sets from PBTfans because of the issues.

[glacial wind]

yeah ttc have clean poppy sound if you don't mind that they're high pitched

[visual ore]

Not at all I actually been chasing that noise.

[glacial wind]

oh shit, game1989 making a purple famicon variant of my favourite keycaps

i need it

[fluid ravine]

[kind helm]

my venom is one 6 hour drive away from me, omg

[knotty iron]

hype

[prime orbit]

wait is the venomhe faster than the wooting?

[glacial wind]

all the top boards are same-ish speed. Right now venom vs wooting is more that venom has .1 rt vs .15rt on wooting until simon pushes the update out, and venom has adjustable deadzone while wooting auto adjusts the deadzone based on the switch you use

those are the main performance differences that matter

[prime orbit]

ah ok so wooting will be "better" once the .1 comes out

[glacial wind]

well they'll be equal-ish in performance once simon pushes the update out, and deadzone wise it's up to the user if they want to swap to ttc magneto pom/rgb to get that 0 deadzone on wooting

[prime orbit]

i was thinking of getting the magneto

[glacial wind]

they're very loud and high pitched is the only warning. I love my magneto pom/rgb but there is the warning you gotta be ready for that loudness lol

[inner wren]

Exactly

Ill push the update out

[prime orbit]

which is the best version?

[glacial wind]

pom magneto is best for smoothness

the pom/rgb magneto also use a tighter mold/better magnet it seems than the normal magneto

[prime orbit]

gotcha

all these sites look sketchy

milktooth good?

[glacial wind]

wooting will stock magneto as well at some point, no idea when though - but they've already been organizing and working on getting the switches into the store

[chilly mural]

Hype!!!!

[glacial wind]

milktooth is fine but overpriced vs. aliexpress

i got my magnetos during aliexpress sale which is honestly cheapest timing to get most stuff on aliexpress

[prime orbit]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807338806108.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.23a8700dhB1LQq&algo_pvid=d0dcdd21-2643-4f03-8168-c571097052be&aem_p4p_detail=202412280002496044837682411840003346899&algo_exp_id=d0dcdd21-2643-4f03-8168-c571097052be-0&pdp_npi=4%40dis!USD!14.03!6.33!!!101.97!46.00!%402103247917353729697066485e53ce!12000041150626074!sea!US!0!ABX&curPageLogUid=GNBeh5iQS5N1&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A&search_p4p_id=202412280002496044837682411840003346899_1

this one?

[knotty iron]

honestly I feel you lowkey, shopping online has always felt sketchy

[prime orbit]

its like breh

chinese everything

or like

i press buy and i get a link

to like singles near me lmao

[knotty iron]

I can say for sure tho milktooth, gateron, and geon (to name a few) are legit

[inner wren]

Especially when ur on temu or something

[knotty iron]

oh god

my dad spends so much there

almost as unhealthy as my keyboard hobby

[chilly mural]

It runs in the family

[knotty iron]

you know it

[glacial wind]

that's normal magneto btw not rgb/pom

[kind helm]

ublock origin

[glacial wind]

aliexpress is just like amazon basically - lots of different vendors selling using aliexpress to mail things out. Long as you buy from sellers with decent feedback/sales then you're good

[kind helm]

dare i say its a must have for every browser ever?

[inner wren]

[prime orbit]

oh shi

[surreal edge]

hey any one can suggest any good switch for 80he which has more thocky sound or lekker has best sound?

ik he keyboards arent good in sound but still any switch recomendation

[glacial wind]

just stick with the lekker v2 if you want deepest sound. It's not 'thocky' in what custom keyboard people mean by thocky, but it's deeper pitch than alternatives

[surreal edge]

then for deeper sound lekker is best ? now in the market...sound is subjective thing ?

[glacial wind]

if you want deepest sound yeah. 'Thock' switches don't exist in HE yet, so if you want deep that's about it - but honestly most of the 'thock' channels that you're listening to would probably prefer one of the many non thock switches that sound cleaner if you were caring about 'clean' sound

tl;dr - thock doesn't exist. Lekker is deepest sound but not the nicest or cleanest sound if you poll most people around

[surreal edge]

then what is most clear sound i need something that sound good also deep with clear not vibrative

[glacial wind]

doesn't exist.

deep + clean isn't a thing in HE yet

[surreal edge]

can you give me sample of deep and clean

so i can understand my taste

[glacial wind]

wuque morandi for example

that's an mx switch that would be what you're thinking of for deep, clean thock

that sound signature doesn't exist in HE

all HE switches that are 'clean' have gone towards the higher pitched sounds because that's just how the switches naturally sound with the magnet in there

[surreal edge]

oka...im completely new in keyboard my 1st keyboard is he keyboard of wooting

[glacial wind]

okay then step 1: forget deep, forget thock etc

just look for a clean sound

[surreal edge]

then how i can find my type or taste of switch?

[glacial wind]

listen to sound samples online

[surreal edge]

ohka thnaks for guide can you recomend some switch ?

[glacial wind]

jade pro/raw he are a good starting switch for clean sound

[surreal edge]

can you help via providing what should i search

[surreal edge]

then i will try with raw he ...ig it is also available in my local store

[glacial wind]

raw he is a great switch - it's what a lot of folks here use as their main switch

[surreal edge]

they have also good rgb support?

[surreal edge]

oka....i need to lube them?

[glacial wind]

yeah geon raw he have great rgb and they come prelubed

[surreal edge]

thanks for time....i have a doubt keycaps matter for sound i choose a keycap xvx topografic it will make any issue foe sound?

[glacial wind]

keycaps can change sound a bit but it's not anything to worry about there - they will sound fine

[surreal edge]

oka bro thanks for suggestion

[surreal edge]

https://www.xvxchannel.com/collections/oem-profile-keycaps/products/xvx-phantom-topographic-version-pattern-oem-profile-imd-tech-keycap-set

bro this keycap will interfare rgb of wooting 80he?

[tidal frigate]

No

[dry rune]

Wtf why does the bnm etc sound so ass

what can cause this

[glacial wind]

Different rows have different pitches

[tropic urchin]

gonna be honest I dont hear it

[glacial wind]

That’s totally normal

[tropic urchin]

they sound fine to me

Unrelated for those interested: I’ve tried both my new plates (FR4 and CF) and I think CF has won me over 👀

[glacial wind]

Cf is the way for poppy clack

If I ever get another 80he I’ll probably buy a cf plate then for my own personal usage board

[sacred elm]

[tawdry tree]

The legends of those keycaps are on the front, Wooting’s LEDs are not. You’ll still see the legends lit up, but far from as bright as in the pictures on xvx’s site.

[visual ore]

Anyone got a sample of the Raws vs Jade Pros in terms of RGB?

Wonder what they looks like since it's always mention the light bar actually makes contact with the Raws

[barren wasp]

probably just tray mount

[visual ore]

This is my first time hearing this where did you get different plates?

I need that poppy clack

[red aurora]

Quick question, the USB cable that comes with 60he and 60he+ are the same yeah? Not a fan of the colors, can you basically use any cable? Whats everyone using?

[sacred elm]

any good quality cable that isnt longer than 2m should work

[sacred elm]

jade pros make rgb darker, but its still fine

if you have shinethrough keycaps it will be all good

[tropic urchin]

I got it off aliexpress

[tropic urchin]

Yeah I love it

Even with my RGB severely muted from Jade pros and CF idk I just like it as an after glow vs eye melting brightness

[visual ore]

Man I have never changed a plate before

Does it affect sound that much?

[stone flax]

geon

[stone flax]

yes

[tropic urchin]

It does yeah, it’s one of the big 3: (case material, plate, switches and how much foam you’re rocking)

[sacred elm]

do you have 80he

[tropic urchin]

It’s very simple to swap all you have to do is screw in the standoffs (you can just copy your PC plate) if you got 80HE

[visual ore]

Currently it's on the way

[tropic urchin]

Sauce: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807856398027.html

[visual ore]

Gotcha well I will consider ordering one to try it out

[sacred elm]

cf plate makes rgb darker

if you care

[visual ore]

Not really at this point

[tropic urchin]

Yeah CF will fuck your shit up if you want bright RGB

[visual ore]

My keycaps don't even let RGB through

[surreal edge]

@glacial wind it's sad then

[tropic urchin]

Here’s my Jade pro + CF build with white zinc

Low key make a wish TTC but it’s dope

[sacred elm]

your ttc king of magnetic sounds good buddy

[tropic urchin]

Thanks pal 🙏🏻

[sacred elm]

holy, imagine ttc on cf plate

[tropic urchin]

@glacial wind do it for science

I couldn’t imagine

[sacred elm]

gonna be so loud

[tropic urchin]

Jade pros on CF already are pushing it imo for volume

I can’t imagine TTCs honestly

[visual ore]

Screw it I will do it

I will order a plate once I get home

First time going this far for a custom experience so

In for a pound in for a mile

[tropic urchin]

Here’s my FR4 test:

[tropic urchin]

Same it’s fun. Enjoy the process

I no longer believe in stock keyboards fitting my wants anymore, need to customize

[stone flax]

venom time

[vapid oracle]

Wooting time

[sacred elm]

geonworks

[tropic urchin]

Someone tell me when we get a carnage 80HE

[stone flax]

customization

bro got 4 case options on an 80he

:3

[tropic urchin]

I will also say, since you’ll have PC plate default (very soft and flexible), you’ll notice a pretty big difference using a 3rd party plate)

[visual ore]

Hmm okay

Just need to wait for shipping T.T

[tropic urchin]

My shipping was pretty fast, was supposed to arrive by new year and ended up a day after Christmas

Best shipping I’ve ever seen

[tawdry tree]

If you’ve already bought the set, it’s not the end of the world. They’ll just look a bit dimmer than in the pictures, that’s it.

The topographic lines will still be bright.

[chilly mural]

what other case option for venom 87HE?

[glacial wind]

Venom 87 is its own thing. You basically have geon cases but also some tkl that are compatible but don’t necessarily have plates for them that work well

so the ideal if you wanted max compatibility is you’d design and print your own 3rd party plate with the correct standoffs etc for venom if you weren’t going with the few plates that geon sells

[stone flax]

all oh h87c?

[surreal edge]

nah i not buy it i plan to buy it....i have two option one has only topographic lines and one with legend....that keycap which has legend is just 3-4 usd more expensive.....can you give example how much dimmer it chould be

[stone flax]

just cop a plate

[glacial wind]

You can’t just cop a plate for venom lol

The standoffs are different

You’d have to design a plate to add in the standoffs you need even if it fits the layout correctly

[sacred elm]

benom

[glacial wind]

Just like how swagkey transition tkl has a plate that technically fits venom tkl but performs kind of shit because it’s not designed for he and the entire thing wobbles

you’d have to redesign the plate to add the standoffs, which is doable but not exactly a ‘just buy a plate’ moment

[tawdry tree]

with Raws, probably like 40% dimmer. I used a set like it with Lekkers which was really dim.

[surreal edge]

so if i need more brighter then i need to use raw?

or any other option which i can get more brightness

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, Raw’s top housing diffuses the light a bit better.

[surreal edge]

so now raw is best for this keycaps?

[tawdry tree]

I’d stick with Raws, TTC KoM RGBs would be slightly better perhaps but they’re quite expensive and are very loud.

[tawdry tree]

If you want those keycaps specifically, yeah, I’d use them with Raws.

[surreal edge]

okaa.....

[surreal edge]

thanks for help buddy

[stone flax]

and

[tawdry tree]

Np!

[glacial wind]

I mean I know your side hobby is trolling people about venom but at least give him proper info if he’s asking genuinely

[sacred elm]

benom

[stone flax]

dis a wooting server

ill be banned i dont take ts to dm's if theyre serious

not like theyre gonna take it seriously

bring up venom for real and someone whos never even heard of it gonna say "ermm but wooting better 4 year warranty and beautiful software!!!!"

💀

[glacial wind]

Or you know you could just discuss features like an adult and not try skew or fanboy things to whatever board you prefer. Half the regulars here have venoms as well as wootings and that’s fine

Becoming a troll just because you’re upset that sometimes a fanboy jumps on you is pretty lame.

I’m not really sure why the option is troll vs be banned. It’s also totally okay to just not do either and not respond if you don’t feel it’s going to be productive

[vapid oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-so-funny-gif-27253208

[stone flax]

hmm?

im not trolling

the answer is venom

[glacial wind]

🙄 hilarious

[stone flax]

so if 10 people say just buy a wooting its all good fun

but if i say just buy a venom its trolling

:3c

[glacial wind]

Sir you’re in the wooting discord

[vapid oracle]

Bro relax lmao we get it you dick ride venom carry on with your life

[sacred elm]

holy shit, people recommend wooting in a wooting discord

how shocking

[stone flax]

so whats ur offense in me half-heartedly just saying venom then?

sounds like we're in agreement

i have no reason to be serious about recommending venom here since its literally a server for a different product

💀

real meow meow hater energy

[glacial wind]

By all means continue the weird champ venom joke, but maybe don’t misinform people asking genuine questions

[stone flax]

uhhuh

saying h87c was misinformation

you just love slandering me my guy its all good

[glacial wind]

Yes because we both know you can’t just throw that into any h87c easily

don’t pretend you don’t know about needing specific plates made for it and that it’s not exactly a simple case swap deal

[stone flax]

as with everything?

different cases need different plates what a novel idea

💀

[glacial wind]

plates which literally do not exist yet and need to be designed and made

Hence his compatibility question is a bit more complicated and you know it

[stone flax]

ya

u done with the weekly criticize mj in a server channel

same time next week?

type shyt

[glacial wind]

nice deflection. Yeah see you next time

[stone flax]

lol

when im on a good boy hot streak u never seem to show up

but u literally perk up and find a reason to start shit

its funny now tbh

[glacial wind]

When you’re behaving good you want me to perk up and say “good job mj for not being a dick to people!” ?

[stone flax]

i could literally be gone from a convo for half an hour and just fine 5 messages directed against me 💀

[glacial wind]

What is this logic.

[stone flax]

hell yea brudda

imma perk up and say good job to when u take this to dms instead of yet again polluting anotha public chat

now then

same time next week?

[glacial wind]

I think the fact you think being a nice human to other people publicly is some big accomplishment says enough about it

[stone flax]

uhhuh

im a bastard human being ya got me

make sure to plug it in all chats so all know about the big bad misinforming mj

or would you rather i go back to talking in a satiricially infanitile femboy speech

was that more preferrable?

and before u definitely say yes

thats so cooked >w<

[glacial wind]

Yes.

[stone flax]

yellow dude hands up

[honest nacelle]

People don't like bluntness, doesn't mean it's bad

[tawdry tree]

Pointing it out in dms to not start something would be an improvement. It’s not the first time it’s brought up.

[stone flax]

offers there

[honest nacelle]

He doesn't ever take up any argument in dms

[tawdry tree]

If said concern is genuine.

[stone flax]

he just wants to pull a charade to ostracize me in this server and idrc lol

[sacred elm]

I like how you both spawn out of nowhere to back mjs ass

[glacial wind]

Aligner we don’t need your input just because you’re salty that I called you out once for certain behaviour in the geon server

We all know why you pipe in when this topic comes up and it’s not well veiled

[tawdry tree]

I don’t know or care if he does or doesn’t. It’d just be a better way to do it to prevent this. Again, if the concerns are genuine and in good faith.

[stone flax]

its not, its a way to slander me

[tawdry tree]

‘Cause your behavior was disgusting as I said back then as well.

[honest nacelle]

Idk abt aligner but this is also smt I've gotten criticised abt

[tawdry tree]

Nothing much else about it.

[honest nacelle]

And I think jed's position on it is wrong

[glacial wind]

at this stage I’ve given up with the DMs because he knows better and doesn’t care. And d pops in because he and mj have a private chat group with others

[polar girder]

Y’all way too opinionated on other people for a keyboard modding channel

This isn’t holier than thou seminar hour

Just block them if you care so much

[stone flax]

he's not gonna block me because he's literally on mj watch to interject conversations im in and start shit 💀

[tawdry tree]

I just got home, I read the chat and see something like this again. A weekly occurrence.

[polar girder]

Yeah it’s stale AF

[sacred elm]

wonder why its a weekly occurence

with mj

[polar girder]

No one out here changing life opinions or habits in a keyboard modding channel

Let’s get real

[stone flax]

jed believes so 💀

[tawdry tree]

Oh, not only mj brother

[stone flax]

i dont need an intervention

[polar girder]

Or do you

Jk

[stone flax]

'-'

[polar girder]

I don’t do interventions

https://tenor.com/view/chat-are-we-cooked-chat-are-we-cooked-gif-3488095719416147301

[glacial wind]

I mean let’s be real. Me and mj were just arguing etc and both d and aligner aren’t giving input because they care about the topic in the slightest

d is hopping in because he’s mjs friend and they discuss this in a private group and aligner is hopping in because he dislikes a past event between us

[tawdry tree]

I care about mj pointing out that you could’ve dmed him about it, something you never do despite multiple people stating that I’d be better.

[glacial wind]

I’ve actually done it in the past

[tawdry tree]

You could try that, for a chance is all I’m saying.

[vapid oracle]

[stone flax]

huh

[glacial wind]

Aligner I get that you dislike me over whatever happened ages ago but you inserting yourself here is very thingy veiled

[tawdry tree]

Again again, if your concern is genuine and in good faith.

[glacial wind]

I meant in regards to other stuff not you lol

[tawdry tree]

For precisely this reason is why I don’t see your “criticism” to be genuine or in good faith.

You don’t think dming would help?

[glacial wind]

For mj’s case no because we’ve had an hour long plus talk about this topic non arguing in a separate fairly small discord already

actually I think it was 2-3 hours

[tawdry tree]

I don’t see a message here either.

[glacial wind]

the end result was how we got uwu mj for a week or whatever which was actually great

[glacial wind]

Is this my dm to you?

[stone flax]

yellow dude hands up

[glacial wind]

I’m confused why would I dm you aligner

[tawdry tree]

^

🥴

[glacial wind]

We’ve barely talked since that one time and I have nothing much to discuss to you in dm

[frozen arrow]

does the 60he+ come with v1 or v2 lekker switches

i forgot

[glacial wind]

Which btw I know you took the initial thing I messaged you about in wooting as ‘disgusting’ or whatever but me and most other people were very confused at the response initially but my first message was super mild and not at all an attack to you back then

[glacial wind]

1.5

[vapid oracle]

[tawdry tree]

Point being, try dming and see if that helps next time if your concerns are genuine. As I said previously.

[glacial wind]

Yeah and I have no issues doing that

[stone flax]

v1.5 👅

[glacial wind]

I didn’t dm you back then initially because I didn’t think it was that big a deal or even an attack in that initial message back then

[tawdry tree]

We’re raised quite differently. Lying about someones intent or goal doesn’t strike me as genuine or respectful in any way. But you do you.

[tawdry tree]

Good.

[glacial wind]

I can copy the message if you want again

[tawdry tree]

I’ve seen it.

[glacial wind]

Even other people looked it at later and commented in this very channel that they didn’t think it was even an attack

[tawdry tree]

It was disgusting if you read what I said in that server.

[glacial wind]

It was literally a “hey man chill out on geon he’s stressed already! Please don’t hurt our goat”

I’m not sure how much more mild and non offensive it could be

[frozen arrow]

also how do you tape mod a keyboard? i’m probably going to practice with my old keeb

[strange bloom]

folks, it's Christmas, let's kiss together

[frozen arrow]

never tried it before so i dont wanna fuck up my wooting 😭

[strange bloom]

and love everyone

[glacial wind]

There’s a YouTube video on wootings channel that goes over it well

[frozen arrow]

mwah

[frozen arrow]

okay thank you

[strange bloom]

same but in French (ho ho ho ho)

[glacial wind]

Yeah I’m really not sure why you want to go over all of this again aligner but if you actually want to take your own advice and dm me about it you’re welcome

[tawdry tree]

If you haven’t read already: #🔧│keyboard_modding message
Also, Geon did end up adding exactly what I suggested. Not saying that’s because of me, but it does show IMO that it was a bit crazy to not add those keys.

Already wrote it out. We’ll end it here.

[vapid oracle]

[glacial wind]

I never had an issue with your request

[tawdry tree]

👍

[glacial wind]

I think it’s a great request. I was just asking if you could chill and ask him nicely because he was super stressed

[tawdry tree]

Give it a read will ya

[glacial wind]

I did, the first time you posted this like half a year ago

again if you want to discuss this further my dm is literally open but I thought we already concluded this back then

[tawdry tree]

It was brought up again. It’s alright.

[glacial wind]

I mean clearly you’re not over it so we can dm unless you’re actually done

[tawdry tree]

Stop

[strange bloom]

guys pls

dm this thing

I can't see people fighting on the Internet, everything except that

[hearty path]

hello

[tawdry tree]

Hi!

[hearty path]

can i use switch films on jade pros?

[glacial wind]

Please don’t do this

[tawdry tree]

Don’t need to

[hearty path]

oh ok

thanks

[tawdry tree]

👍

[hearty path]

Drop GMK White-on-Black Custom Keycap Set

and are these good

[strange bloom]

yes, and expensive

[stone flax]

Keykobo wob more budget friendly

[hearty path]

I can afford it 🙂

[stone flax]

icic

[strange bloom]

folks, what do you think it's the reason for the wobble on the 60he? switches or keycaps? I changed switches to black knights and still have it so...

[stone flax]

both

[strange bloom]

shit I knew it ahahha

[stone flax]

loose tolerance caps and stems introduce keycap wobble

loose tolerance housings and stem introduce side to side and stem/housing wobble

[strange bloom]

I have the ABS Keycaps (ISO) from wooting, I guess double PBT would be a better choice?

[stone flax]

loose housing tolerance to plate introduces more wobble

wobble can arise from all that

[strange bloom]

ok now i wanna cry

[stone flax]

[strange bloom]

regarding switches wooblingness (is this a word? i'm spanish), should I keep my black knights or change to jades?

[vapid oracle]

Jade pros

[strange bloom]

@stone flax

[strange bloom]

thanks, and about keycaps, my instinct says that the widder the better (hehehehe) so double PBT?

[stone flax]

Jade pro raw he

wobble wise

[vapid oracle]

Keycaps all preference

[stone flax]

jade pros slightly edge in terms of bottom wobble

koms for stability :p

[stone flax]

playing with the keycap stem tolerances is friskier

No way to ensure that its tight fitment other than really just trying it

[strange bloom]

so keycaps is not an issue regarding woobling? now i'm lost

[stone flax]

or trying to match keycaps and switches close the same spec

gmk ive never found issues tho, and they dont get loose quickly if mounted sparingly

Cheaper sets might have looser stems

UWU

[hearty path]

Are the springs on gade pros good or should i replace them for Geon Pingless HE Compatible Springs 42.5g.?

[stone flax]

Preference for weight and length

jade pros springs are 50+ish grams 20mm

[inner wren]

[stone flax]

so expect snappier upstroke and higher preload compared to geon springs

[sacred elm]

no need to swap

[strange bloom]

I shouldn't have chosen ISO spanish layout, there are way fewer options to choose keycaps

[stone flax]

iso qwerty

or a diff lang?

[hearty path]

Thanks.

[strange bloom]

ISO vs ANSI

[stone flax]

no as in

qwerty

azerty

[strange bloom]

qwerty yes

[stone flax]

qwertz

[strange bloom]

i have qwerty

[stone flax]

then ur fine

[strange bloom]

nah, I need my ñññññññññ

[stone flax]

most good enough sets have proper kitting

[strange bloom]

but no ññññññññññ 😦

[stone flax]

Bro you just said qwerty iso

[strange bloom]

yeah but spanish

maybe I missunderstood what you asked, sorry

[stone flax]

Iso spanish

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/cdn/shop/files/6069_62901639d2f63_ABS-Double-Shot-Keycaps-Set-105-Key-ISO-Black-Spanish.jpg?v=1707263002

This?

[inner wren]

As a german i have to survive without ä ö and ü

[strange bloom]

thug life

[strange bloom]

yep, 60

[stone flax]

Ya that iso es

[strange bloom]

what I mean is that there are fewer options for keycaps with ISO Spanish layout, sorry for the missunderstanding

[stone flax]

ya

whats ur budget like

[inner wren]

I want to get my keyboard already

[strange bloom]

not GMK definitely, but my main issue is with the woobling thing, my priority is fixing this brbrbrbrbrbrbr everytime I hit the keys

[strange bloom]

take mine

[inner wren]

Sure!

[stone flax]

are you on stock lekker v2?

oh wait

black knights

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black knights (recommended here)

yea

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How do I remove the wooting pcb from the case

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I'm also buying the kbd redux case, so maybe choose the gateron set they offer? @stone flax and look for the keycaps elsewhere?

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oh whatup mj

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do you have a screwdriver?

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yes

just unscrewed everything

won't come out though

wait nvm it worked

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hahahaha

glad to know that by looking at an image I could help you

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what is this hole for ?

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hi

[stone flax]

screw point

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@stone flax jades pro or WS Dash for woobling?

saw some nice vids on yt about this switch

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ws dash is the old jade switch

the same one

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looks stable at least to my eyes

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ouch, didn't know that, thanks

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yeah just a recolor basically

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ok i'll get the pro then

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theyre recolored jades with different spring weight

get pros

[stone flax]

jade pro

raw he

👅

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To keep me from Enjoying life

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ok perfect, and regarding keycaps, do you have the link for the ones you sent the screenshot?

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this

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ew dont buy that 💀

its cheap gloros oem caps

id opt for a good cheap dyesub pbt set

since its way easier to find extraneous support

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ok, understood

[stone flax]

for something like iso es

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i did not understand this, sorry

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[stone flax]

something like this

[stone flax]

wrong clipboard

also damn ur a hawk

my haters literally on mj watch huhu

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saw that too hiihhiih

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[stone flax]

👅

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and I don't have to worry about keycap thickness to avoid wobble?

guess double pbt is thicker than "simple" pbt

[stone flax]

its not about keycap thickness

its about proper fitment

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ok

[stone flax]

you can have thick keycaps but with loose stems and vice versa

its just a quality/process thing whether they're loose or not

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ok, understood, I was not aware about this

you're helping me a lot mj, owe you a beer if you come to Madrid

[stone flax]

:0

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ok two beers

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Mj drinking before he's legal kek

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i was told here that there are a lot of fake sites selling fake switches, but I lost the list that I made about the good ones 😦

what are the websites recommended for Europe?

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OMG what I just did, forget about this MJ

[stone flax]

deltakeyco, prototypist, aliexpress sorta

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anyway here the drinking age is 18, so...

[stone flax]

wait ur from spain?

try eloquentclicks

theyre based there

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yeah I know about them

but they're expensive I would say, i'll check again

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I'm like 80% sure he's still not able

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LOL

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But what the police don't know, can't hurt them

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All gateron HE switches are expensive for no particular reason

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nah nah everything has its timing for a reason

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Get him a choccy milk

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I don't know what's that but I'll ask gemini

oh, you mean chocolate milkshake?= hahaha

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Yuh kek

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xDDD

[stone flax]

u can probably find a kit for iso es or something with esfr add-on on eloquent clicks

seeing as theyre a spain vendor

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checked like some months ago and I considered prices expensive but...

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is this a reasonable price on a market basis?

[honest nacelle]

Very

Keycaps <100 usd or <100 euro is considered 'budget' or cheap caps

[stone flax]

ive gyatt no clue the quality of eloquent clicks keysets or their manu tho

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LOL ok

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neither

I'll go first with new switches (jades pro) and stock keycaps, and I'll work from there, thanks folks

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sounds like a plan