🔧│keyboard_modding

[tawdry tree]

L60 or L45?

Teal or yellow?

[cold fog]

60

[sacred elm]

jade pros are on sale rn

get pros

[cold fog]

Where?

[tawdry tree]

Is it easy to press them, no fatigue after a while of use?

[sacred elm]

gateron.com

[cold fog]

Actually I would prefer it to be even harder to press lol

[tawdry tree]

Ah, then definitely go with the 60 option (if you end up going for Raw HEs).

[cold fog]

Thank you for the information! I'll take a look!

I will look further into it, thank you for the recommendations guys!

[slate solar]

is this compatible with the 80he?

[sacred elm]

no

how would it be compatible

wait i thought you mean case

lmao

keycaps yes

also charge your phone

[slate solar]

Yes Keycaps only 🥲 and good catch haha

[kind helm]

is it actually pingless tho or its just copium👀

[vapid oracle]

Anyone know if the ducky Mecha mini is hot swappable for switches ?

Switches weren’t coming out when I was pulling them

[fast oriole]

Google

[stone flax]

No

[flat cobalt]

Lowkey I want the viper mini signature edition now

[sacred elm]

price

[flat cobalt]

Didn’t realize it was rare as well

[sacred elm]

i like it aswell

[modern surge]

Should i o ring mod my 60 he

[polar girder]

It’s good mouse

Just join email list and buy drops if you want it

[flat cobalt]

Maybe I like the idea of feeling the magnesium shell

[polar girder]

https://www.pulsar.gg/products/first-edition-feinmann-f01-gaming-mouse

Magnesium

[sacred elm]

ergo

@tropic urchin

[gleaming crane]

Where should I buy my keycaps?

[fast oriole]

Amazon

[tropic urchin]

not a fan of how the holes are

the diagonal ones for my stormbreaker are alot easier on the eyes for me

[polar girder]

Lol true

Gross

https://www.amazon.com/ATTACK-SHARK-Superlight-Magnesium-Programmable/dp/B0DB8NJ9RM/ref=asc_df_B0DB8NJ9RM

https://mechkeys.com/blogs/guide/top-seven-magnesium-alloy-gaming-mice

Handful of options

[flat cobalt]

I really like the cut outs on the Razer

[polar girder]

lol fair

[sacred elm]

https://tenor.com/view/noooo-twitch-emote-twitch-emote-7tv-gif-3053074376810035456

domt get scammed by razer

600$

ok

[gleaming crane]

Should I buy a set of pbt keycaps from gmk?

They have the exact set I needed for my accent piece

[modern surge]

What do they look like tho n whats ur build

[uneven cradle]

Depends what you're buying and where from GMK doesn't have a store and unless you're buying an MTNU set they only make ABS keycaps

[sweet oak]

Razer should collab with fabulous beasts like wlmouse did, id sacrifice a soul for that

[modern surge]

Should i o ring mount w the alumaze case

[gleaming crane]

So is this website fake cuz I don’t wanna get scammed😭, looks like they sell pbt Japanese keycaps

[tropic urchin]

👀

[sacred elm]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[uneven cradle]

If it has gmk in the website name then yes it's a fake website

[sacred elm]

your mouse is huge

[gleaming crane]

Alr thx

[tropic urchin]

best ergo

[uneven cradle]

The list shafie linked has the verified vendors for GMK included

[tropic urchin]

its about same weight as the magnesium one, but massive. its best mouse

[flat cobalt]

They are cute especially the scroll wheel

[sweet oak]

https://tenor.com/view/shi-qilin-shi-qilin-you-shou-yan-ysy-gif-4782746858755819403

So true

[stone flax]

mtnu?

[slate solar]

Should I pull the trigger

thoughts?

[calm pulsar]

I hope you're not on gmkkeycap or gmkkeycaps cause those are fake

[slate solar]

These fit the 80he ri?

[gleaming crane]

Yeah, I realize that now😭, I’m using alexotos’s website now

[slate solar]

Any ideas?

[sacred elm]

yes

[fluid ravine]

ALRIGHT

TIME TO GET TO WORK DEEERRR

WHERE MAH PRESENTS AT

[fast oriole]

Why does my top row of keys sound so much deeper with the stock lekkers

[fluid ravine]

MERRY CHRISTMAS- from TX

[fallen pecan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAHiRvlMV34 oh hey this guy actually has an xlat solenoid rig for latency testing

[glacial wind]

i don't get how so many companies can suck at simple socd

half the boards he mentioned had broken socd and even the ones he mentioned were okay for him have comments under the video from people saying theirs has issues with socd lol

[glacial shard]

Anyone know what the Uranus Magnetic Switch eSports sounds like?

[glacial wind]

they're worse sounding, more chattery sounding ttc switches basically

kinda similar to jade gaming in that they're tight but the sound is not clean

[glacial shard]

I read they sound clacky but cannot confirm

[glacial wind]

it's kind of similar to this example i have of the ttc magneto pom vs jade gaming

[glacial shard]

Ouu you got a sound test!?

[glacial wind]

i don't have one for the uranus but basically that's the kind of sound quality drop that happens with them

[glacial shard]

That sounds not so bad

Could sound worse

[glacial wind]

for whatever reason the jade gaming, uranus etc all come off more 'muddy' than the ttc magnetos

[glacial shard]

Gets a B grade not B+

[glacial shard]

I ordered another keyboard today

And it has those switches

Uranus Magnetic Switch eSports

[glacial shard]

I can type on this keyboard all day sounds pretty good to my ears

[glacial wind]

first 3 keys = magneto pom

second 3 keys = jade gaming/uranus type sound

[glacial shard]

🤝🏼 the last three are what I like

[glacial wind]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5SGujFhckE has a uranus vs ttc magneto comparison

[glacial shard]

Oh Thank You!

[fallen pecan]

i noticed most reviewers (chinese or not) will only mention if it has socd or not, not the quality of the implementation since they dont actually test the feature

[glacial shard]

Honestly as long as the web driver is not buggy or laggy and saves the changes to the board to me that's all that matters

The features that are provided are all copied from industry standard companies like wooting

To wooting that's a good thing they're setting forth what people want as long as they continue to develop their web driver they'll be ahead of the game

[glacial wind]

the problem is it is buggy - that's why users are complaining about the socd

basically they get things like your D key doesn't deactivate sometimes for example

[chilly mural]

If you buy a keyboard for gaming, you at least want the keyboard to not be a deterent when gaming. Having a 1/100 issue with SOCD is kinda bad especially when playing in a high stake situation

[glacial shard]

For which keyboard manufacturer?

DunkDeer?

[glacial wind]

almost all of them if you mean that video lol

[glacial shard]

I don't think mchose has that issue I don't believe

[glacial wind]

he literally says it does in the video itself

and shows it on screen

[glacial shard]

I didn't watch the whole video I got side tracked but I'll bring that up to mchose support

[calm pulsar]

beri kurisumasu

[reef rampart]

so i have a paln

i have 3 keyboards atm and they are gk61, whooting 60he, and madlions 60he

my goal is to combine all three of them

im gona use the gk61 case because its just a simple white case, added with some foam and tape mod, then im obiusly gona take the sofware and switches from the whooting bc it is better but it does only have a 1khz polling rate compaired to madlions 8khz but we will survive

and then im gona take the plain all white no symbol keycaps for the madlion so its an all white clean keybaord

thoughts?

[glacial wind]

the wooting 60he performs better than the madlions 60he even though it's not listed as 8k poll

sounds fine to me though, assuming the gk61 case fits the 60he module

[reef rampart]

..........

we havent tested that yet @glacial wind

XD

[glacial wind]

did anyone ever end up buying any of those domikey translucent keycaps?

the red honestly looks quite nice

that + any of the dark colored cases would be nice contrast matching

[fallen pecan]

Aifei has a ruby set just without the dots

[glacial wind]

Yeah I saw the aifei one, I’m curious how the quality of it matches up

[fallen pecan]

theyre decent for the price

my friend got the jade colored one and he has no complaints

[glacial wind]

How are his mod keys? The only thing I hate with some of these clone keycaps is the ones where my mod keys are clearly not aligned all that well and cause stickier stabs

[fallen pecan]

he didnt mention any sticking shifts or tabs so i assume they're ok

the set cost him around 10usd btw

[glacial shard]

They'll look into the socd issue so that'll be fixed sometime soon

[rich gulch]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[glacial wind]

well yeah, that's kind of the thing though - that's how it is for all of the brands

they all have a whole bunch of these sorts of things that will take time to iron out and fix

[glacial shard]

I have no horse in the race I want every company to succeed in a competition that's what drives an to better

[glacial wind]

i still think it's a fine budget board if you buy going into it knowing that they are what they are and that there's no guarantees long term as far as firmware and support goes

but i never expect for them to have the same flawless implementation in many ways as a venom or wooting

their margins just don't allow that sort of attention

[glacial shard]

That's where I agree too in that regard

[glacial wind]

and more likely than not they end up just launching a newer board in a year or whatever and the dev time gets moved to that board instead

that's just how it goes with these brands where they're obviously not going to be investing in every board long term

[glacial shard]

That's normal

It's not like a phone where they give years support for security patches

[glacial wind]

that's part of the price difference at end of the day really

i don't buy into a $20-50 keyboard expecting a wooting level of service

you just buy into it knowing some corners are cut and will be cut and that's what you're saving

[glacial shard]

Some companies don't cut corners I'm saying that when it comes to Chinese manufacturers they really upped what they give for the price

Yeah the software is not up to par

[glacial wind]

I'm open to examples, but I don't know many budget brands that haven't cut a lot of corners

even melgeek for example which is a touch below wooting pricing are known to have slowed down fixes for their made68 non pro now that the pro is their new baby

[glacial shard]

China is the industrial pivotal point where they see where they can make money many like mchose and similar like WLMouse are experiencing creating keyboards and mouse pads too

[glacial wind]

WLMouse is not a great example

they have major corners cut lol

[glacial shard]

Wherever they see people creating a cult for the product they'll create something someone's looking for

[glacial wind]

i don't disagree, but again - i have yet to see many if any examples of a budget brand that isn't cutting major corners in a race to the bottom

wlmouse for example their international support is a kid in australia working what seem to be sub minimum wage and it's very rough around the edge in terms of real support and firmware updates

i know this because I have 2 beast x mini in the wrong color that were sent to me incorrectly

[glacial shard]

I haven't received that mistake I leave notes in what I want so that doesn't happen

But that's because I don't want to wait to return it if it happens

[glacial wind]

i don't think you're getting it

this isn't a 'you need to add notes for what you want' deal

this is a "they literally sent me the wrong mouse 2x and forgot to even send it the first time until i reminded them and then sent the wrong mouse again"

and my only customer support was a literal kid in australia who seems to be working illegally

[glacial shard]

Did they ask you to return it?

[glacial wind]

i asked for the right mouse first

but gave up after they messed it up twice

[glacial shard]

Okay here me out though

[glacial wind]

after forgetting to send my replacement after asking the first time

there isn't a 'here me out'. I just put it into the box of 'this is cost of business for cost cutting'

[glacial shard]

When it comes to a supply chain and a supplier that could of come down to a communication error

[glacial wind]

they are a factory brand with not great customer service and logistics

they are the supplier.

wlmouse is a factory brand, that's how they get things so cheap

they also cut corners heavily on software because I was in their discord when they tried to hire a random guy in their discord to finish their 8k polling software for them

[glacial shard]

I know about all that

[glacial wind]

again - all of this isn't me saying I think the mouse is complete trash or the company, but I accept that this brand is cutting corners and that's why I get this mouse for cheap and it's part of the price savings

[glacial shard]

If you were a business with a limited budget

Wouldn't you cut corners in the beginning

[glacial wind]

there just isn't really many or any examples of a chinese brand selling budget gear that isn't cost cutting in similar ways

[glacial shard]

To even fathom seeing profit?

[glacial wind]

that's a great scenario and all but we know that it's not due to limited budget.

they cut corners because that's their literal business model

they make the same item people are making for less by cutting corners where they can and selling it below competitors

this isn't a 'lack of budget'. This is a 'designed from the start to cut as many corners as possible'

[glacial shard]

I mean that just comes down to bad business practices

I get where you're coming from

[glacial wind]

if you want to phrase it that way sure. But that's the chinese peripheral game for all their budget brands

they aren't in the business of making top tier products and will never have the goal of fixing all the issues

their goal is build a budget product cheaper, ship it in a 'good enough' state, make money. Rinse repeat.

[glacial shard]

But I don't think that's for every product though

[glacial wind]

name me one then

one budget brand that isn't doing this in the peripheral space

[glacial shard]

Now with that boundary I don't have any to mind

I will say though that when it comes to certain things Chinese manufacturing is improving

They'll probably overlap certain top dogs

[glacial wind]

they already are top tier in manu, just only when they actually care to be

after all apple products for all their ethical issues at times are made to an insanely high spec in china

(although they do get made in other places now too)

[glacial shard]

I mean they're the #1 tech manufacturer for a reason

[glacial shard]

Cause China wants more money for the fruits of their labor

Don't blame em 😂

[uneven cradle]

Well you can charge a premium when you add those other things

[glacial shard]

Yeah that's true I'm surprised the amount of business that rolls through China they haven't lowered their debt deficit

Forgot no politics 😧 sorry

[solar tundra]

Aye Boys, what are the best Switches atm?

Still Raw HE?

[honest nacelle]

Yep

[solar tundra]

Any Stabilizer to recommend?

[glacial wind]

The ones that come with your keyboard. Don’t change them unless you actually have an issue with them

[solar tundra]

My only issue is they sound very "clicky"

I relubbed them, removed lube tried different amount they always have like a "sticky/clicky" sound

[glacial wind]

What do you mean by clicky?

[solar tundra]

i send you dm

[glacial wind]

I mean you can just post here, it’s what modding channel is for

[brittle heron]

Yo guys what switches (sound:soft)can i use if i want to change them on my 60he+ but i still want the 0.1 Travel

[tropic urchin]

Both plates are out for delivery W aliexpress

[chilly mural]

yay

[polar girder]

What plates for what

[tropic urchin]

CF and FR4 80HE plates

[tropic urchin]

I’m excited

[drifting bronze]

hi guys i have a question is the wooting wrist wrest good for the tofu 60 redux case

[polar girder]

Niiiice

Excite

[polar girder]

Yes

Perfect

Fits like a glove

[drifting bronze]

ok great

thanks for letting me know

[quiet gale]

What are the best improvements i can do on a stock Wooting two HE?
Planning to swap the switches to gateron. But anything else i can buy to make it sound better?

[stone flax]

gateron is a brand, what switches are you referring to

[quiet gale]

Magnetic jades*

[tidal frigate]

Only switches keycaps and put foam

[stone flax]

get geon raw he or jade pros instead

[tidal frigate]

If you want something else, you have to make your own case

[quiet gale]

What foam would you recomend?

[quiet gale]

Oh alright ty, will check it out

[tropic urchin]

I’d rec Jade pros if you want a Gateron switch (better tolerances + longer spring for better rebound feel)

[stone flax]

better is subjective

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-after-careful-consideration-i-have-come-to-the-conclusion-that-your-opinion-sucks-gif-25893576

[cyan arch]

Two Questions: Should I use the Silicone or the Poron foam?
And second, is There a Proper Tutorial how to Insert the Wooting 60 HE+ Module into the Tofu 60 Redux Case?

[stone flax]

First is preference

https://youtu.be/8zBsNi81MHA?feature=shared

[upper ridge]

Guys I've found this case https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005008234741162.html?srcSns=sns_Copy&spreadType=socialShare&bizType=ProductDetail&social_params=60926329993&aff_fcid=774d66fbe42b4098b2fe46afd09b4906-1735148782613-06904-_EurKE1a&tt=MG&aff_fsk=_EurKE1a&aff_platform=default&sk=_EurKE1a&aff_trace_key=774d66fbe42b4098b2fe46afd09b4906-1735148782613-06904-_EurKE1a&shareId=60926329993&businessType=ProductDetail&platform=AE&terminal_id=f3fecd2eb0544438b63f9e9c6e1d045d&afSmartRedirect=y It should be compatible with my 60HE no?

[cyan arch]

Thx

[little dock]

any recommendations on what switches i should buy around the under 50$ price range, i prefer creamy

^^that are compatible with wooting 60he+

[stone flax]

switches dont produce a creamy sound

never heard of that

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711913638193004556/1300554769336635493/creamy.gif

[little dock]

oh well any recommendations on switches that sound like the akko v3 cream yellows?
https://youtube.com/shorts/a3BnB3wBEZ8?si=BEfkXKpWpLRhkLrs

[stone flax]

edited af

and no

[spice apex]

yea that’s edited

i have those switches in a board and they sound nothing like that

[fluid ravine]

Same here

[little dock]

oh 💀 ig im dumb anyways ogey i found something that sounds like the switches i have on my board (ws dashes fl/pl) and went with that, thanks guys.

[tawdry tree]

I’d go with Jade Pros over Jades/Dashes. They’re priced similarly

[mild sequoia]

Hi, what cases I can get is compatible with 80he because I couldn't order frost one it will be in stock about Mid April 2025

[stone flax]

?

no point getting dasehs

[little dock]

wdym i went with the jade pros cause someone said to get em

[polar girder]

lol what

Bro went with three different switches for three different reasons?

What’s the goal

Make other people happy?

[stone flax]

? it was a response to u saying u went with dashes

[little dock]

no my final decision was the jade pros, i dont really build keyboards so i didnt really care what i got i just wanted something thats compatible with my new 60he+ module thats coming next week

[stone flax]

dont get dashes

[stone flax]

geon raw he 💪

@tropic urchin 🤓

[sacred elm]

geonworks

[high sphinx]

I have a question guys is this all i need for a venom 60he build i already have geon raws and knight v2 stabs

[austere creek]

idk if that teflon sheet works on the venom pcb

[ionic breach]

keycaps

[tawdry tree]

Do the Venom plates include standoffs and screws?

[ionic breach]

and a wire

[tawdry tree]

oh I remember, the standsoffs are on the PCB i think.

not removable

[ionic breach]

screws are included if they are from geon

[tawdry tree]

and why 6.25U

😭

[harsh dove]

Ah good ol phone pics of the screen

[stone flax]

Windows+Shift+S

[high sphinx]

When i go to tye venom pcb it says the plates compatible with venom include srews

[stone flax]

remove the teflon

ur using screwins

[tawdry tree]

the teflon is like a switchpadsheet

won’t affect stabs if you remove those parts

but won’t do much of anything so not worth imo

even if it’s only $2

[stone flax]

its like a bandaid mod for the stab

so useless with screwins

[high sphinx]

Oh ok ty guys

[tawdry tree]

nah it’s a sheet

[tawdry tree]

pcb protector or whatever

look at the image

[stone flax]

my guy

look at the description

[tawdry tree]

oh lol

mb

oh it looked like it was a cutout

[stone flax]

these typa things are fine for platemounts

otherwise just skip

[tawdry tree]

but it’s just for under the stabs

[stone flax]

yes same principle as band aid mod

except they charge you 5 dollars

for whatever reason

:p

[tawdry tree]

icic

[high sphinx]

Yeah i saw a video of venom build and they put those thing underneath theirs so i did not know

[tawdry tree]

what does it protect tho? were there issues with stabs damaging the pcb?

[high sphinx]

I dont know i just saw some people in the building video do it

[stone flax]

its really just a stabilizer pad

if i had to guess

its translator gonna translate

[tawdry tree]

I’ve never heard of stabs damaging the pcb but maybe that happened, it’s called protecting for a reason, surely

[stone flax]

vendors just name shit whatever

theyre teflon stab pads

[tawdry tree]

oh

😂

[violet canopy]

Sorry for the sophmoric question, but my son is trying to replace the switches in his Wooting with new ones he got for Xmas. Does this require removing the PCB plate or should the original switches just pull straight out of the socket?

[quiet gale]

Between stock lekker switches from few years ago ( aka v1 i think) is it a noticable differentse to gateron jade pro magnetic?

[stone flax]

can be pulled with a switch puller

[quiet gale]

There is a tool that came with the wooting ( depending on when he got the keyvoard) it has to press on the latching mechanism of the switch and comes right off just remove keycaps

[stone flax]

ya

[quiet gale]

Any clue on v1 lekker vs jade pro? Noticable difference?

[stone flax]

i said yes

the difference is noticeable

tolerance improvements means cleaner sound (less rattle and chatter), reduced travel to 3.5mm, longer spring is snappier upstroke, louder and more emphatic bottom out from being a closed bottom

list goes on

[sacred elm]

v1 lekkers are the definition of garbage

[tropic urchin]

V1s not very Lekker tbh

[tawdry tree]

V1 Vies.

[reef oar]

if you have V1s, you may as well throw them into a bowl of milk and get to crunching

[sacred elm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1186265045227802714/1304974208274530334/Screenshot_2024-09-17_143858.png?ex=676d53b0&is=676c0230&hm=9201cc29fbd957a75a139ba78833b744f2fcaac8c6720e131ccdc178c7b8099f&

[dreamy belfry]

Tofu redux or Alumaze60

[fast oriole]

I love my alumaze60 tbh

Was very easy to swap and sounds nice

[dreamy belfry]

It is 120 though

[sacred elm]

tofu

[fast oriole]

Where are you from

[harsh dove]

Just a small tip, it is easier to remove the switches if you separate the plate and PCB via the 8 screws holding them together.

If you find yourself or your son struggling to remove them

[dreamy belfry]

USA

[fast oriole]

Tofu will cost around 90 without the brass plate after shipping

[dreamy belfry]

It is 83 without

[fast oriole]

Ah okay

Kinda preference based, I like the alumaze60 just because of the gold accent and strap option

[dreamy belfry]

And free code to

[dreamy belfry]

You don’t even have it on in the picture

[fast oriole]

Yes I do 😭😭

That’s the alumaze60 white

[dreamy belfry]

I was talking about the strap

[fast oriole]

Yes I know it’s nice to have I didn’t have it applied yet in that

Again all preference

[dreamy belfry]

I might get it cuz it get 17 dollar off

[fast oriole]

Feels very high quality

[sick shard]

Where can you get these in gray black or white with dots

[faint zephyr]

ok

[tidal briar]

Hey yall I’m completely new to the wooting life. My keyboard gets delivered tomorrow. Already looking into changing the case to the tofu redux, and was told the burger mount should be done too, where can I find the right orings for it?

[ivory tusk]

Yo can someone help me I’m
Planning on getting a 80he I wanna make it as thocky as possible what should I buy? And what mods I’m coming from a 60he+

[ionic breach]

oh wait, isnt wooting shipping free in na

if so just get their friction pad

[tropic urchin]

You’re prob going to be looking at Lekker V2 switches (preference between 45g/60g), 3 layer tape mod. It’s already pretty ‘thocky’/muted with PC Plate and silicone sandwich pad.

[ionic breach]

nvm its a 99 usd minimum

[tropic urchin]

If you want it more muted from there then you can always add more foam to it

[sick shard]

Welcome to the Woo-ting Clan

[sick shard]

are you referring to a gun?

[tawdry tree]

“Looting” wasn’t enough, so the Holey is next. Quality doesn’t look nearly as good as the Holy but it’s a bit cheaper: https://a.aliexpress.com/_EJxOruM

[ivory tusk]

Ok thanks

[ivory tusk]

Are the Magnetic Jade Max HE Linear Switch also a good option?

[sick shard]

those cases look like Symbiotes from spider-man

[cyan lark]

I have heard less than stellar things about the jade maxes.

[tropic urchin]

They fit the thockier jade profile but they aren’t worth the price. I’d look at the genty which is their “silent”/softer pitch jade

Very mid smoothness and you prob will get some pc on pc friction sticky feeling sensation which is very mid

[ivory tusk]

Ok thanks

[sweet gate]

Thx

[ivory tusk]

Ok thanks

[tropic urchin]

Try hearing some sound tests, but it probably will be between Lekker/Genty

[ivory tusk]

Ok thanks

[stone flax]

king

finally made it to aliexpress

yippeee

[tawdry tree]

it’s cool but do people like it over the Holy?

The Holy is $30 more

and comes with feet

😂

[stone flax]

cheaper on tb iirc

[tawdry tree]

yeah

[sick shard]

damn that domikey stuff is pricey

as much as a wooting 80 he pcb hmm

[tidal briar]

It is, what would the friction pad change compared to the o ring mount?

[ionic breach]

theres a minimum tho

[tidal briar]

I’ll say this. This is the first actual quality keyboard I’ve owned and I want to do it right. Other than that case upgrade what would yall suggest? Is a lot of it just preference on the sound?

[ionic breach]

i have not tried both, but to my knowledge its the same thing

the pad is just a nicer solution

[tidal briar]

Thank you my friend I will update after the keyboard gets here and I figure it all out how I want to build it!

[sick shard]

My stuff will also arrive soon

[dreamy belfry]

Tofu redux or alumaze60

[ionic breach]

preference

both will realistically cost the exact same

[dreamy belfry]

It is about 80 dollar difference without taxes or shipping

[sacred elm]

just get what you like more

youre keep asking that

ask yourself, what do you like more and get it

[fluid ravine]

Anybody got anything for christmas?

[ionic breach]

cost + weight + shipping

alumaze ur buying with the module anyways so less shipping

weight for alumaze is heavily recommended

[dreamy belfry]

Already have the module

[ionic breach]

oh then tofu would be slightly cheaper

uty

[dusky orchid]

The Geonworks Raw have performance issues like the raptors?

[austere creek]

the raptors have performance issues?

[fluid ravine]

the magnet thingy being too strong

[austere creek]

oh i wouldnt really say its a performance issue as they do perform perfect before saturating the sensor

[fluid ravine]

and no

[sacred elm]

well raptors hurt performance because of stronger magnet rapid trigger is delayed when you bottom out

i think they fixed a magnet on newer batches but nobody cares because theyre garbage

[polar girder]

Only HE nylon top and bottom housing says otherwise

Well maybe not any more

[sacred elm]

[tropic urchin]

Where Mr delivery man at smh, edging me for my new plates

[sacred elm]

😭

[tropic urchin]

Pc plate sweating bullets rn

[stone flax]

I wanna do a plates taste test

Mukbang

[sacred elm]

pc plate🤮

[tropic urchin]

Pc plate got that dried cracker vibe

[reef oar]

pc > steel

[stone flax]

pp on top

[gleaming crane]

Are dye sub keycaps any good? Or should I only get double shot

[stone flax]

as with anything, it depends on the implementation

[sacred elm]

any soft plate = dogshit

[stone flax]

skill issue

[sacred elm]

ok

[stone flax]

ya

[sacred elm]

no

[stone flax]

yes

[sacred elm]

absolutely not

[calm pulsar]

wouldnt say that, it's just preference, but I think I prefer denser plates

[stone flax]

alu plate on top for he(?)

[calm pulsar]

if a switch is tight like jade pros, raws or my frankenswitch then it can be good

[tropic urchin]

brass plate supremacy

[stone flax]

abs plate

[sacred elm]

same, I want to swap pc plate with cf, because 80he is too soft for me

[chilly aurora]

I want to buy new keycaps, anyone can share a website for them?

[stone flax]

Insert vendor list link

[tropic urchin]

aye aye captain https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[stone flax]

there

[chilly aurora]

great thanks!

[tropic urchin]

take a couple days to go thru since theres alot of different links, hopefully you find what you're looking for 🙂

[chilly aurora]

what's the different between gmk and pbt caps?

[stone flax]

gmk is a manufacturer, pbt is a material

[chilly aurora]

oh ic

[stone flax]

if ur new to this it wont hurt to read through something like this https://wiki.keyboard.gay/KEYCAPS.html

[fluid ravine]

this right here

[stone flax]

Im gonna miss it

[fluid ravine]

only plastic plate i would go with

PP or POM

[tidal frigate]

Um sussy link

[stone flax]

Nylon tho

yum

[tidal frigate]

Why keyboard would be gay

[fluid ravine]

neeeelon

[tawdry tree]

how’s nylon compared to pc?

[harsh dove]

Done

[gleaming crane]

What’s wrong with a pc plate? Why are ppl clowning on it😭, what’s a good material?

[sacred elm]

pc is fine, its just preference. some prefer stiff plates, some soft

[gleaming crane]

I thought soft was universally preferred

[sacred elm]

nah

[glacial wind]

if I could I’d get an adamantium plate for stiffness

[sacred elm]

same

[gleaming crane]

It has been quite some time since I was last part of the keyboard customizing community

[fallen pecan]

has anyone done a titanium plate before?

[gleaming crane]

What’re the benefits of stiff plates?

[tawdry tree]

expensive but could look sick asf

[fallen pecan]

cheaper than tungsten thats for sure

[sacred elm]

it changes sound profile and feel

[fallen pecan]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/1d6z0d3/so_i_tried_a_titanium_plate_for_my_keeb/

this guy tried a Ti alloy

[tropic urchin]

True and real

[sacred elm]

varedis😭

where

plates!!

[vale mica]

Can any keycaps be put on 60he+?

[vapid oracle]

Yes most brands

[vale mica]

Bett , just need to wait for my keyboard now

[stone flax]

Mx stem

[harsh dove]

From my understanding most competitive gamers actually want stiff

[gleaming crane]

Is there a reason?

[vapid oracle]

Preference tbh

[gleaming crane]

Interesting

[glacial wind]

At low actuations it’s more sensitive to bounce

so for example if I’m slamming a and d heavily I don’t want any bounce at 0.1

I’ll probably buy the cf plate when kdbfans releases theirs

[sacred elm]

yea, if you play osu for example youre cooked with low actuation and rapid trigger

with pc plate

[gleaming crane]

I’m assuming bounce is when you press on a key and because you have a softer plate it makes the key actuate twice?

[sacred elm]

btw they might release brass too

[glacial wind]

Kinda although it may not accidentally actuate. Just that if I’m doing precise movements I don’t really want the keyboard moving at all

[sacred elm]

yeah, something like that. but depends on a game, you need to actually slam keys to have double tap on soft plates. i was using 0.15 rapid trigger with low actuation on 60he since i got it (it has steel plate) never had any misinputs, or very rarely. since I got 80he i had to raise both rapid trigger and actuation to reduce accidental overtaps in osu

[flat cobalt]

FR4 superior

[stone flax]

nope

[gleaming crane]

Is there a hard plate that has similar sound profile to a pc plate?

[calm pulsar]

pc sounds like this because it is soft

the softest sounding denser plate is fr4 in my experience, but it could be due to my case

[gleaming crane]

Oh okay thx😔

[fluid ravine]

well its cus you screw your pcb and plate together, no matter what, it will normally be stiff anyways

[pearl berry]

I wanna get the 80he but I am not sure what switches to get? I am gonna get the module board but I am not sure of which switches, does anyone know what switches listed on their website are the creamiest sounding?

[crystal pagoda]

traymount moment

[crystal pagoda]

switches arent inherently ‘creamy’

[pearl berry]

ok got it

[sacred elm]

80he has gasket mount and pc plate, its way softer than 60he

[young lantern]

polycarbonate 60% cases recommendations?

[tawdry tree]

What’s between the PCB and plate matters too. Silicone offers much more support than foam. There’s a board with a pad made of PC which turns any plate stiff.

[harsh dove]

Everything in this hobby is a preference

Literally everything

[vapid oracle]

Very true

[flat cobalt]

I genuinely want to hear a creamy sound profile

[fluid ravine]

lawd have marcy

just get clam chowder and keep mixing it as you type

[stone flax]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711913638193004556/1300554769336635493/creamy.gif

[flat cobalt]

Legit just searched up creamy keyboard on YouTube and they all sound different

[fluid ravine]

lmao

[fallen pecan]

That headphone is a bajillion $$$

[fluid ravine]

fr?

[fluid ravine]

type
shit

[fallen pecan]

I cant see the pattern but thats a ZMF headphone

[agile grove]

bruh they shipped the wrong keycaps for my brother's keyboard 😭

[dusty wren]

any cool deskmats that would go w gmk norse?

[fathom remnant]

I finally got keycaps for dark blue housing

[reef rampart]

so i have a paln
i have 3 keyboards atm and they are gk61, whooting 60he, and madlions 60he
my goal is to combine all three of them
im gona use the gk61 case because its just a simple white case, added with some foam and tape mod, then im obiusly gona take the sofware and switches from the whooting bc it is better but it does only have a 1khz polling rate compaired to madlions 8khz but we will survive
and then im gona take the plain all white no symbol keycaps for the madlion so its an all white clean keybaord
thoughts?

[little ether]

Does anyone have any information about the owlabs collab with wooting?

[hollow nymph]

Dumb question but Durock v2 screw in stabs should work with 60HE+ right?

[calm pulsar]

not guaranteed, might be too wide for stock plate

[hollow nymph]

I have the PC plate for it rn

[calm pulsar]

if its from wooting it still applies, their stab cutouts are not as wide

I had such experience with TX AP stabs, they didnt fit, or if they did, the keys got stuck due to how tight the stabs because under pressure from the plate

[fluid ravine]

Spelling correction, it's Wooting not Whooting.
And the Wooting's PCB is not compatible with the GK61 case. Wooting's PCB is a GH60 layout, so it's only compatible with other GH60 cases like the tofu Redux, Alumaze, Fjell, Optimum, etc.

[reef rampart]

@fluid ravine my bad!!, dammm i was thinking that would be the problem, then ill either just chuck the components into the mad 60he or buy the tofu redux

[limber void]

Can someone help me with my stabilizers pls?

[mossy remnant]

anyone know some good sexy cases for the wooting 60he

[tawdry tree]

https://geon.works/products/lucifer-he-switch 👀

Visually, they look identical to any other closed-bottom box-stem Hejin switch.

Closed-bottom Black Knights.

[chilly mural]

Same material

as raw

maybe same sound profile too

2x cheaper too

[tawdry tree]

Should be similar, yeah.

[chilly mural]

genuinely might grab it for tiger lite

waiting for test first ofc

[glacial wind]

i'll buy 10 just to have some for sound tests, it's like $1.50 for 10 lmao

at least in korea anyway

[tawdry tree]

They are very cheap

[chilly mural]

Venom HE tkl is in stock too now

[tawdry tree]

Tofu Redux, Holy60, Salvation

sexy is subjective of course.

[chilly mural]

soo cheap, still wondering how

[kind helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIQAQlw_awU

[glacial wind]

people gotta stop linking that video

it's some of the worst testing i've ever seen and his latency results already show he's way out of his depth doing anything gaming related because there is zero chance his data is correct

i like keybored for sound tests and overviews of non analytical stuff, but that review was awful from a technical sense for gaming related stuff

i would go as far as betting my entire house that his data is not accurate, because there's not a world where the boog75 is equal to the melgeek made68 pro if he's testing properly

[ionic breach]

oh damn it's out alr?

[glacial wind]

yeah he put it out today for sale

[chilly mural]

yesh

waiting for Sno's sound test before I buy it

[glacial wind]

the question is how many switches do i buy to get a decent sound test

[ionic breach]

10

[chilly mural]

enough for a 60%?

[ionic breach]

unless you have more fingers

[kind helm]

its .25 per switch time to get a full set

[glacial wind]

the shipping for 10 switches costs more than 10 switches lol

[kind helm]

think at least alpha and the mods

[glacial wind]

but I also know I will literally never use these once i record the sound tests

[chilly mural]

the shipping for 90 switches cost more than shipping to my place!!!

[ionic breach]

I mean you can become a reseller

[glacial wind]

it'll be a one and done

[kind helm]

why xD

box stem hater?

[glacial wind]

why would I ever use the inferior budget switch over the good switches

[kind helm]

even their mx switches are cheap af

[glacial wind]

well yeah these are designed as a budget option even by geon

so they're not meant to be better than raw he for example, which are already on the lower end of HE pricing

okay i think i'll order 20. that's enough for 5 in each row, and 5 mods

[kind helm]

i mean if you just want to hear the difference between it and other switch 1 is probably fine. but with a whole set for a typing test is always nicer

[glacial wind]

yeah but i'm not being paid to spend $200 on switches every month lol

[tawdry tree]

do you have Deng Gods or Sricky Rices to compare them to?

[quiet gale]

what are the most recommended switches to upgrade to atm? (from v1 lekker)

[kind helm]

they are not like a sub company of geon right? i am trying to look up the stuff they have

[tawdry tree]

I’m curious if they’re different at all.

[glacial wind]

nah i've used sticky rice once before but i don't own any myself

[tawdry tree]

Ah

[glacial wind]

no they're just grain gold mold taken over by geon with minor changes

[kind helm]

ahh cause it says "Manufactured by Graingold" on the page

[glacial wind]

grain gold makes both these and the raw he

difference here is the lucifer is an already existing mold with tweaks by geon and raw he was his own thing

[kind helm]

isn't the "tightness" of a switch depends on the qualityprecision of the machine, so if they have the machine, would that mean it is possible that this cheaper switch may be actually decent

[glacial wind]

kinda but also not really, it's just tolerances of the mold and adjustments made etc as well

for example you're also not going to throw in a tight tolerance magnet batch into a switch that's going to cost me $15 if i actually wanted to buy 90 in korea lol

[kind helm]

true

[glacial wind]

alright got 20 lucifers on the way. Cost $4 lol

should have them in 1-2 days

[chilly mural]

🔥

[glacial wind]

interesting geon is selling 19mm non magnetic springs now too

he says mx for them, but if they're non magnetic it should be fine to throw them into HE switch too if they fit the particular switch

i have geons stream on in the background and kept hearing 'made'. I thought he was talking about the made68 pro, but he's literally talking about maid cafes lmao

[knotty iron]

isnt the Raw HE 15mm?

[glacial wind]

Yeah raw he uses 15mm springs

i'm curious to see if the lucifer feels like the swagkey peony he which were also tight tolerance but felt awful to use

[knotty iron]

arent the HE springs like 6mm but the MX switch springs like 4mm in coil footprint diameter?

[glacial wind]

it depends. Different switches have different diameter springs

for example the springs in the swagkey peony he are different width to the springs in geon raw he even though both are HE springs

generally most he springs are around raw he sized, but there's some differences in certain brands/switches

[knotty iron]

ah good to know

also what is the point of multi stage springs

i see there are double and triple ones

[glacial wind]

Just allows a different press and release feel vs single stage since it’s 2 stages of tension - I don’t like them personally

[knotty iron]

i expected that answer

nevertheless I wanted to hear ot from someone w more experience

[elder kayak]

Hello, wanted to ask for some advise as to what switches would be a good upgrade from the standard ones?
I’ve seen someone selling the new v2 lekker switches for cheap but wanted to ask for someone’s advise with more knowledge?

Thank you

[flat cobalt]

Jade Pro or Geon Raw HE

[knotty iron]

what they said, Raw HE or Jade Pro

I use Raw HE and I love them :)

[elder kayak]

Ok ok,
I’ll have a look at them, for the min I found this vid which shows the raw he, but later compared the two for sound
I think the HE sound thockier?

https://youtu.be/79RcRFiSKm0

[elder kayak]

And thank you!

[sick shard]

think i just found the best frost case matching keys for all white look

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005007061472075.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.45.2ba26d61QfrrMI&algo_pvid=77f49e16-b381-40a6-9dfa-4f4e024d497c&algo_exp_id=77f49e16-b381-40a6-9dfa-4f4e024d497c-22&pdp_npi=4%40dis!EUR!34.43!24.79!!!34.97!25.18!%402103956b17352145979631345ea8db!12000039273827954!sea!NL!2789154681!X&curPageLogUid=6KTSrLpClRd3&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A

[harsh dove]

They’re only $1,199

Those are ZMF Aeolus

[fallen pecan]

yup found out later

[harsh dove]

https://store.hifiman.com/index.php/susvara-unveiled.html

$8,000

[fallen pecan]

$60k

[harsh dove]

Sennheiser HE1s

[fallen pecan]

there's a 100k euro utopia, but that's just for the bling

didnt know headphones.com did subscriptions these days

[harsh dove]

That’s actually funny, didn’t know that either

Focals are nice too

[fallen pecan]

i only had the clears for a few months, sold them on cos i was always stressed when wearing them

the bands are notorious for snapping

and not covered by warranty

[harsh dove]

Aren’t they kinda heavy too

[fallen pecan]

clears are okay, not too bad, like 450g

[harsh dove]

Oh okay

[fallen pecan]

the lcd x i had at the same time was 650g

that was heavy, but the leather pads make up for it

[harsh dove]

Yeah fair enough

[hollow plover]

I need help to choose my keycaps, any recommendations?

[stone flax]

in terms of what

[hollow plover]

Of choice

[stone flax]

“I need help to choose a car, any recommendations.”

Simply put what youre asking is too vague

[hollow plover]

Ok

I need help for choose my keycaps, I search keycaps like this

[stone flax]

Thats the zom100 set

https://divinikey.com/products/tut-zombie-100-keycap-set?

[devout totem]

Good job finding that 👍 I was about to suggests toddler with paint markers

[glacial wind]

Tut make pretty good quality dye sub. Had zero warping or alignment issues with my tut sets so far

[hollow plover]

Yup

But I search keycaps like it.

[glacial wind]

Those are pretty unique

Not sure what else is out there like that

[hollow plover]

Okk

[stone flax]

https://geon.works/products/lucifer-he-switch

goonworks

[hollow plover]

It's cuz i want those keycaps but they cost 100$ with the delivery.

So I search for others like

[glacial wind]

No local vendors or vendors from aliexpress?

[hollow plover]

No😭

[glacial wind]

Tragic

[hollow plover]

Ye

And I love the zom 100 anime

My fav

[inner wren]

Does anyone know any coiled cables that work perfectly fine with the wooting and are a little cheaper than the wooting coiled cable

[harsh dove]

https://a.co/d/bPQzjSp

[fallen bronze]

Funny I juts joined this discord, to ask the same question. Coming from a 6 year old HyperX alloy FPS keyboard, im not a huge enthusiast, but i've been thinking about buying myself a nice wooting for a year now, and I'm close to finally place the order. I decided on the 80HE, and after some research, these are the 2 switches I found thats probably good replacement.

Are there any reason to choose one or the other? How much better are they over the Lekker V2 45 or 60s? Is it all just a preference of sound, with no performance diff?

Coming from my current keyboard i feel like any of these switches would be day and night difference haha

[flat cobalt]

@glacial wind I’m gonna let the pro answer

[sacred elm]

they both have way less stem wobble

compared to lekkers

[ionic breach]

shorter travel

[flat cobalt]

The longer spring on the pro feels nice as well

[sacred elm]

id say get jade pros since theyre on sale rn

[ionic breach]

how much?

[sacred elm]

like 55$ for 90pc

[fallen bronze]

ye i saw that that theres a smalle sale, and was leaning towards those. Just saw a few vids with people saying they love the geon raws

meanwhile im here, with no clue. Also yeah i read that these both have less wobble, so i like that

my current one is wobbly AF, and my new work laptop's keys are less wobbly than the previosu ones too, so thats something i like

[sacred elm]

jade pros have tiny bit less bottom wobble than raws, but its almost the same

[ionic breach]

60 with shipping

not too shabby

[fallen pecan]

keychron has some cheap ones

[ionic breach]

lemme check how much bk are

if they are cheap as well ill get both

[sacred elm]

check on ali too, sno got 90pc for 24$ btw

[fallen bronze]

Okay one last question, about the default double shot PBT keycap set. Any reason to replace them other than aesthetic preference?

[ionic breach]

ye but he has coins lmao

[sacred elm]

yea but without coins it was 30$ or something iirc

or 35$

[fallen pecan]

keyscaps are usually aesthetics first, durability second

[sacred elm]

wooting stock keycaps are nice

[fallen pecan]

28 ish for me

[sacred elm]

[stone flax]

better tolerances (less chatter/rattle/wobble), closed bottom design so they act and feel like long poles (more emphatic sound and feel on bottom out), reduced travel distance from around 4.0mm to 3.5mm), cleaner sound, jade pros also carry a longer 20mm spring meaning a snappier upstroke and stronger top out

[fallen bronze]

thanks a lot everyone, really useful answers!

One more final question i guess, gateron jade pros worth lubing, or as a noob realistically it wouldn1t matter to me and it's just unnecessary hours of work for minimal gain?

[sacred elm]

theyre factory lubed

you can, they will probably sound a bit cleaner after hand lubing

specifically springs, you can bag lube them

and that will be enough

[fallen bronze]

allright, just wanted to check in here for some final confirmations on my stuff, 80HE ordered, expected delivery end of march. Thanks!

[sacred elm]

march

[fallen bronze]

next step gateron jade pros

well i've been looking at wootings for a year now, not a big deal to wait 3 months 😄

[sacred elm]

youve ordered module 80he?

[stone flax]

geon

[fallen bronze]

ye

[stone flax]

raw

HE

geon raw he

Raw HE by Geonworks

[sacred elm]

geonworks

[stone flax]

what case did you get

[fallen bronze]

plastic

[sacred elm]

plastic is fine, you can always upgrade it if you want later with wootings zinc or gt80 from kbdfans

[fallen bronze]

ye i didn't see much reason to get the zinc alloy for how much more it costs tbh

[fallen bronze]

have you tried both that and the jade pros?

cause these are pretty much what i see everywhere, watched plenty of videos. Either gateron jade pros, or geon raw he

[stone flax]

na

[fallen bronze]

so many sound tests, and all i notice is that ALL of the switches tested sound way better than my current basic ass keyboard

[ionic breach]

shame

[sacred elm]

Ive tried both. Dont ask why I got both of them I chose jade pros because of different pitch and they feel smoother when you bottom out imo.

[ionic breach]

black knights still cost a fk ton

[sacred elm]

@fallen bronze

first are jade pros, then raws

and jade pros again in the end

[fallen bronze]

oh ye

jade pros i like more

[sacred elm]

why black knights? you want to make frankenswitches ?

[ionic breach]

[sacred elm]

[ionic breach]

raws and jade pros too

the one by arc

[sacred elm]

ye

[fallen bronze]

okay i'll try to forget about it until then

[inner wren]

That looks really good thank you

[harsh dove]

Yeah no problem, read the reviews too, peeps with Wootings said it worked with Tachyon Mode no issues

[tropic urchin]

Plates have arrived

[fallen bronze]

i saw some stuff about stabilizers for the gateron jade pros , should i get something or not ?

[inner wren]

Sure ill do that!

[chilly mural]

ooo, assembly and sound test???

[tropic urchin]

Ye, I’m prob starting with CF first

[fallen bronze]

got the module, plastic case, keycaps, about to order 90pc gateron jade pros from gateron's website. Nothing else needed right, stabilizers and stuff?

[harsh dove]

My bad, I was saying I read the reviews, not that you have too lol

I read them for you

[harsh dove]

You most likely won’t need long pole stabs , that issue aka “Keycap Wobble” comes down to quality/tolerances of your keycaps and mainly happens on the spacebar if anywhere else. If it does happen you can get Geon stem spacers for $3

[fallen bronze]

aight so im good now, and if any issues come up i'll handle them then

thanks everyone !

[stone flax]

failed

failed conversion to geon

:<

[harsh dove]

Oh did they buy Jade Pros?

Nvm lol

[fallen bronze]

no purchase yet , will check a few vids, but at this point it's the 2 clear wins are geon raws and gateron jade pros, with people mostly prefering these 2

[harsh dove]

Geon Raw cheaper depending on your location

[fallen bronze]

EU

[fallen pecan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKID0ORh1xk more vids to confuse you

[fallen bronze]

yeah i saw this i think

[tropic urchin]

CF plate feels legit

[harsh dove]

Just a quick tip, take sound tests with a grain of salt

[fallen bronze]

ye in the end nothing will 100% replicate hearing it IRL

[harsh dove]

Exactly

Lots of variables

[fallen bronze]

and also, again, every single one of these switches will be 100 times better than my current 6 year old hyper x alloy fps

wobbly loud fucks

[harsh dove]

Yeah there’s really no wrong choice but for stability and sound, most people seem to enjoy the Jade Pros or Geon Raw or even the TTC Magnetos but they have a sound most probably wouldn’t like

[sacred elm]

no, stock stabs are fine

[inner wren]

All good i read them anyway lmao

[tropic urchin]

You can IF you want, but if you run into any probs you can just get stem spacers which accomplish the same thing as long pole stabs if you end up getting the Jade pros

Stock stabs should be fine for everything else tho

[fallen bronze]

ye i'll probably wait a day and try to do some more research on the jade pro vs geon raw stuff, and if there will be any problems i'll solve it then. If i understand correctly just putting properly sized o-rings on them solves it

[sacred elm]

you wont have problems

[polar girder]

https://geon.works/products/lucifer-he-switch

[quiet gale]

is there like a noob switch tier list for wooting(i mean hall effect)?

[harsh dove]

There are no tiers

https://tenor.com/view/preference-glarses-mx-brown-cherry-mx-brown-keyboard-gif-21044520

[quiet gale]

no click, rather quet, as little rathel as possible*

[little glen]

There‘s no tier list cause atm all you need to know is geon raw he or gateron jade pro

[tropic urchin]

PC plate flops around like a dead fish compared to CF 😭

[quiet gale]

ait ty c:

[little glen]

Quiet HE switch is not available yet

[tropic urchin]

You want quiet/muted sound profile ye?

[little glen]

There are some marketed as quiet but they are not really quiet

[quiet gale]

i have two he tho but yes @tropic urchin(stock)

so mostly Jade pro + foam?

[sacred elm]

there is no quiet switch, and if there is they make performance worse

you probably need to get lekker v2

[little glen]

Yeah lekker v2 but its worse than raw he or jade pro

[sacred elm]

that

[little glen]

I‘m big fan of raw he cause its not so expensive like jade pro

[sacred elm]

extra 10$ wont hurt you im sure

[quiet gale]

will go with jade pro, any benefit of foam******?

foam*

[sacred elm]

what do you mean foam

[little glen]

Also doesnt add a green tint to everything

[tropic urchin]

You might wanna look at lekker v2/jade genty maybe for a softer pitch/quieter option. Jade pros can be muted (with the right build) but it’ll still be kinda clacky

If you’re okay with it being maybe a little louder then Jade pros would be a nice touch I think but I’m a clack guy

[quiet gale]

is it worse than v1 lekker or still an improvement?

[sacred elm]

yea you definitely dont want raws, because theyre clackier than jade pros

[sacred elm]

nothing is worse than lekker v1

[quiet gale]

XDDDDD

[little glen]

Lekker v2 are better than v1

[fast oriole]

are geon raw he better than lekker v1.5

[little glen]

But worse than the top switches out rn

[little glen]

Yes

[tropic urchin]

Are they tho? Mine sounded hella muted 💀

[little glen]

Well, unless you really hate raw he sound

[tropic urchin]

Bottom swap didn’t seem to impact it too much

[sacred elm]

Jade pros are a bit deeper

[quiet gale]

does the 8khz of 80he noticable ?

[sacred elm]

no

[quiet gale]

is the*

[fast oriole]

I thought geon raws were a bit muted

[sacred elm]

no

[tropic urchin]

Not really but you’re going to be flying at Mach 2

[tropic urchin]

Mines an opposite experience which is funny af

[sacred elm]

what

[tropic urchin]

You on PCR tho so makes sense

Fuller sound tho I will agree to that

[harsh dove]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message
Jade Pros

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

Raw HE

both using POM plates

[polar girder]

PC maybe my least favorite TBH

[tropic urchin]

[polar girder]

upgrade from steel in sound I guess lol

[tropic urchin]

When thocc and clack shake hands

[fast oriole]

What’s the best plate for geon raw he

[cyan lark]

TTC KoM is the one true answer

[sacred elm]

🤮

[cyan lark]

Non-believers are on notice

[tropic urchin]

I wouldn’t say there is a best plate but there is one depending on your preference for how you like your plates (do you want soft and flexible, or stiff)

Once you go up to stiffer plates it will sound a lot louder than your run of the mill soft PC plates

[harsh dove]

I personally like POM or Alu

but there's no best

[fast oriole]

What’s pom

[harsh dove]

a type of plastic

[sacred elm]

pom

[tropic urchin]

Pp plate on top smh

[harsh dove]

PP is good too

[sacred elm]

pp plate on wooting sounds like dogshit idea

unless you just use it for typing only

[harsh dove]

Well opinions are like buttholes, everyone has one and everything in this hobby is a preference

[polar girder]

Yeah what’s difference between POM and PP

[sacred elm]

pom is softer

wait no pp is softer

[harsh dove]

PP has more flex, yeah

[sacred elm]

PP will probably be unusable for me on 80he because of gasket mount it will be so soft, 60he should be fine

[harsh dove]

Do you tray mount your 60?

[sacred elm]

Yes, my 60he is just stock. no longer use it anymore

[harsh dove]

Ah okay, yeah

[harsh dove]

These look open bottom, are they?

[sacred elm]

theyre closed

[harsh dove]

Interesting

[sacred elm]

theyre just geons version of denggod switches

[harsh dove]

Ah okay yeah I have some of those

[polar girder]

Yeah seems like budget box stem raw’s

[harsh dove]

Wonder if the tolerances on the box stem are any good

[polar girder]

I use it on tadpole mount 60HE no problem

80 bigger but idk

[cyan lark]

Oh are these Lucifer HE switches the budget Geons we heard about?

[harsh dove]

Geoms

https://tenor.com/view/omega-gif-21656744

[cyan lark]

Geodudes* sorry

[harsh dove]

[cyan lark]

But yeah?

[sacred elm]

theyre worse than raws

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[harsh dove]

Yeah figured they're probably not as good

[chilly mural]

Wtf is that spacebar at the very bottom???

[harsh dove]

The 999u spacebar

[chilly mural]

8.5u????

[sacred elm]

10u

[polar girder]

AllTheSpacebar

[polar girder]

lol all the wasted wires trying to hold that damn thing up without twisting

RIP

man I’m so tempted to buy venom PCB but also so tired of tweaking shit on keyboard

😵‍💫😵‍💫

[harsh dove]

It's nice but I don't need it

[polar girder]

I’m a low latency connoisseur

So I’m tempted lol

[sacred elm]

what do you have now

[harsh dove]

You know how much latency matters lol

🤏

[sacred elm]

60he?

[harsh dove]

yeah he has a 60he

[chilly mural]

stability > speed

[polar girder]

Is venom not stable?

[chilly mural]

Nah

[polar girder]

Idk it all adds up

[sacred elm]

lol, you will pay more money for 0.4ms difference

[chilly mural]

It's stable

me thinks

[sacred elm]

just stay with 60he

[chilly mural]

my brain just fart again

[sacred elm]

the difference is impossible to notice

[polar girder]

Right

Maybe for you

Jk

[sacred elm]

what do you mean for me

[drifting bronze]

Is there really no good pbt keycap set for the iso french layout?

[polar girder]

Like you can’t feel 1ms of lag?

Sad

Jk

[sacred elm]

sad

[harsh dove]

Tell em Bigs

[polar girder]

lol

Input latency anxiety on fleek

My XL2566K is irrelevant because of this same reason

And my gen4 m.2 SSD

All obsolete

[harsh dove]

Yeah bro you're behind

[polar girder]

https://tenor.com/view/vignesh123-vigneshfisrtgif-yoda123-yodamars-gif-13055175463724769097

[sacred elm]

its me whos behind i still use 144hz VA panel monitor

its so bad

[harsh dove]

woah, some VAs can be nice

[sacred elm]

I need to buy new one asap

[sacred elm]

yeah, mine is old

some HP

[harsh dove]

Fair lol

[sacred elm]

Ill just get ips probably 240 or 280, should be enough for me

[polar girder]

Solid

Yeah im shooting for 480hz OLED

[tropic urchin]

Get a beefy GPU to go along with that 👑

That shit would be so nice

This is actually crazy PC plate is so cooked compared to CF it doesn’t move 😳

[cyan lark]

Oh you're digging it? Still waiting on mine.

[polar girder]

Yeah 14900k/4080 playing cs2 for now

Kind of want full UHR80 dp2.1 tho

So tempted to wait for that in monitor and GPU

[tropic urchin]

I’m running my 4090 strix and 13900k on my PG32UCDM and it’s so fun

Very immersive

[cyan lark]

Varedis, put some KoMs in there on the CF

[sacred elm]

[cyan lark]

Do it for me

[sacred elm]

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-no-way-gif-24547692

[cyan lark]

Do it for yourself

Honestly you deserve it. Think about how hard you've worked.

[autumn creek]

Same, then I just did a minor upgrade to a 280hz IPS, waiting for OLED to be ironed out

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/brennan-lee-mulligan-game-changer-dropout-i-cannot-win-gif-23486734

[tropic urchin]

I’m not buying more switches unless Gateron delivers the clear Jade pro with TTC stability that doesn’t sound like shit

[sacred elm]

which 280 ips did you get

[tropic urchin]

Anything less than that can get fucked I’ve bought too many switches 😭

Jade pros peak

[cyan lark]

That would be something... wait did you say "sounds like shit"? Bout to get tussly in here.

[autumn creek]

Alienware monitor, 27F or something

[silk hound]

Worth

[tawdry tree]

I pretty sure they’re out of production and ran out. They were $30 for 90pcs when they released but now you can’t find them anywhere. You could (most likely) make closed-bottom monochromes with the Lucifer HE’s stem and bottom housing and the Raw HE’s top housing.

[tropic urchin]

Jade gaming sounds like shit

[cyan lark]

Oh ok, we can agree on that.