🔧│keyboard_modding

[calm pulsar]

no rgb, the correct preference

[sacred elm]

real

[polar girder]

Ong

[sacred elm]

fr

[tawdry tree]

the more RGB, the better the performance.

everyone knows that

https://tenor.com/view/gaming-pc-lian-li-o11-gif-20528283

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-flash-cat-betterttv-gif-10690574645280585754

[tawdry tree]

😂😂

[tropic urchin]

Haters will say it’s fake but I approve 🫡

[sacred elm]

haters will say lekker v1s arent peak

[tawdry tree]

reall

[tropic urchin]

Those aren’t haters, but realists

[calm pulsar]

I kept a bag of my og lekker v1s to keep on hating

[sacred elm]

same

[polar girder]

To appreciate how far we’ve come

And also hate

[fluid ravine]

STM LEKKERS V1 FTW

[stark osprey]

Geon cables came !

[fluid ravine]

yipppeee!

[calm pulsar]

the usb-c connector is nice on this

[tawdry tree]

First gen Steelseries Omni Points

[kind helm]

cable mod is from china too?!

[tawdry tree]

Everything is from China

[kind helm]

it came from the city i was born in, omg accidental W choice by me

[stark osprey]

Yea I like the gold and blue tips

[calm pulsar]

that's cool

[kind helm]

just brought the tofu 2.0 plate for venom

[calm pulsar]

wow

[tropic urchin]

they need to send me my new 80HE plates fr fr

[calm pulsar]

super nice, never seen venom in tofu 2.0 yet

[kind helm]

wallet bleeding hard rn hehe

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/voodoo-doll-abfab-absolutely-fabulous-curse-needles-gif-15697203

[kind helm]

brought a hot swap pcb in case my shaky hand clicks on frog leggra

[polar girder]

What you think?

[polar girder]

I’m not that old I guess

[stone flax]

Mx build?

Why a $200 tofu 😭

[kind helm]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message just in case

[kind helm]

sold out as a completed pack + 30 shipping

[stone flax]

oh okiee

[neon rune]

should i keep the stock stabs on the 80he or replace them

[stone flax]

If it was solely mx there was deffo nicer stuffs out there

[kind helm]

oh yea 10000%

[stone flax]

$50pcb is lowkey too funny tho

[stone flax]

Could u have tried a salvation at this price

maybe aftermarket

[kind helm]

hey i mean i brought a stock wooting he so what can be more stupid

i have a salvation rn :3

[stone flax]

🥵

oops

🥵

oops

🥵🥵🥵

[kind helm]

stock is gud

[tropic urchin]

You might need to lube or wire balance depending on your unit RNG, but other than that you don’t really need to replace them.

[stark osprey]

Just ran it on 80HE, Tachyon mode, 100% RGB brightness. No hiccups

Sleeving is this nice textured silicone/rubber feeling. Looks and feels like good quality.

[tawdry tree]

Plus the added bonus of it looking like you could pull a freight train with it 😂

[cedar lynx]

Do I need to order a fiction pad separately or will the optimum case/wooting have one already

[sullen lotus]

i’m thinking of getting these pbt key caps any thoughts?

[stone flax]

sure why not

[polar girder]

Optimum case has it

[chilly mural]

A lot of thing and option for a base kit. Very nice.

[cedar lynx]

Bet, now just tell usps to deliver my shit

[fast oriole]

Is it saying label created for you?

[cedar lynx]

Nah it shipped out but says it’s been sitting in Memphis for like 4 days now

I’m bouta start tweaking here

[polar girder]

I don’t got it like that, big dog

GL tho

[cedar gate]

most stuff from pbtfans is phenomenal

i believe that is the dracula set

[stone flax]

hmm

[cedar gate]

dude ik you got a defect but its very rare lol

[ionic breach]

xrays?

[cedar gate]

when i broke 2 keycaps by being dumb they sent me new ones free'

[stone flax]

Pbtfans cracking has been a known things for years in the hobby

wdym rare

if anything its improved

[cedar gate]

and it was my fault for sure

[stone flax]

But continues to happen

which is funny cuz how long have they been here

[cedar gate]

i have owned 2 sets of pbtfans and have used them for like 3 years only one damage and it was 100% my fault

[ionic breach]

i mean it happens ofc

and cs is not ideal

but the amt of freedom pbtfans have over gmk is nice

its kinda worth it

[stone flax]

freedom? Does gmk take your rights away?

[ionic breach]

[stone flax]

[ionic breach]

i just feel gmk is stiff in design

[stone flax]

If you dont know how to look sure

Can be hard to navigate

[ionic breach]

because the artist is scared of it performing not well

[stone flax]

ya

true

[ionic breach]

its getting better tho

[stone flax]

thats why its nice to show interest in ic’s

[ionic breach]

i have a lot of gmks im looking forward too

[stone flax]

help em out

[cedar gate]

im just not a fan of abs in general which is why i really like pbtfans

[feral adder]

are switch films necesarry for the geon raws. i want to get a thockier and more dampened sound so thats why im considering them.

[cedar gate]

nope

just add more foam

[feral adder]

why not films?

[cedar gate]

they just dont need them'\

[feral adder]

are the switches already super tight

[stone flax]

Dont do that

[cedar gate]

mostly for older switches

can even make raws worse

[feral adder]

hm okay

thanks

[cedar gate]

if you want to make your keyboard thockier maybe use a tape mod lots of foam and thick keycaps

[stone flax]

Dont do it for any HE

[cedar gate]

yeah no HE needs films

[feral adder]

what type of foam specifically?

[cedar gate]

they all have different sound profiles maybe poron for what you want?

[feral adder]

how thick of poron

[cedar gate]

im not sure about what fits in the case tbh

[stone flax]

go for slightly porous

[cedar gate]

maybe ask someone else for that

[stone flax]

dont just fill the board with to the brim with a dense foam

it wont give you the most muted sound

[feral adder]

im thinking 3mm?

of thickness

[stone flax]

What case

[feral adder]

tofu60

with brass

[cedar gate]

what spacebar foam should I get 3.5mm 6mm or 9.5mm

im thinking 6mm?

[feral adder]

me too, just make sure it fits

im getting xda keycaps so they're shorter, will 6mm fit?

[true swan]

Odd question but does anyone know a wkl case that can fit the wooting pcb?

[stone flax]

6.25 wkl?

Cursed af lol

[tawdry tree]

I don’t think just the case comes with the friction pad. It does!

[stone flax]

the optimum case?

It does

[tidal frigate]

No i dont think so. It is mainly wk only but you can try

[tawdry tree]

Oh damn, didn’t know

[tidal frigate]

If it is compatible with gh60

[tawdry tree]

So you get the case and friction pad in a separate box?

Can’t find shit on the optimum page

[stone flax]

If u need wkl get a venom

[ionic breach]

i think so

actually didnt a lot of people get 2 friction pads?

[stone flax]

It was a selling point in the video

[tawdry tree]

Two?! 😂

[ionic breach]

ya i think they packaged one wrongly, so they just added another one in the package or smt

and they just told the guys to keep the spare lmao

[stuck night]

bro can i dm u?

i have question about switch

[glacial wind]

He probably was in the batch that swapped over because initial batch didn’t have friction mount inside the box

[tawdry tree]

Sure but you can ask it here as well.

[stuck night]

okay i dm yea

[glacial wind]

so they did the package like the first batch but he had 2nd batch optimum case that had another inside already

[quasi hinge]

Still needs the black portions added on the windows (planar arrays) and one ring then done

[calm pulsar]

was unpacking kbdfans package and found the designer studio adaptive stabs in there
I forgot I ordered them lol

we will see

[polar girder]

Oh man nice

Yeah let me know if I should order those so they can sit in my basement for months also

[chilly mural]

When can we see?

[calm pulsar]

I wonder who else is sitting in your basement for months

[tropic urchin]

starry nights??

[calm pulsar]

nah just smoky black

[calm pulsar]

decided to build my 60he module in freebird, so I will post soon

[chilly mural]

yey

[calm pulsar]

will go for black pom and friction mount this time

[calm pulsar]

actually went with kbdfans CF cause never tried it

[fluid ravine]

YURRRR

[calm pulsar]

fuukkkk I forgot screwins dont work in friction mount

[fluid ravine]

hell yea arccccccc

[fluid ravine]

dead ass?

huh

[calm pulsar]

like I’d have to use clip ins for spacebar and backspace

[fluid ravine]

oh wait

i was thinking asbt the pad

lol

[calm pulsar]

yeah I dont have it yet haha

just an oring

[fluid ravine]

lool

i forgor

[calm pulsar]

well I guess im building in the frog

alu plate for 60he

[polar girder]

Lmk what you think

I still haven’t tried my alu plate either

[calm pulsar]

im trying the spacebar rn with the adaptive stabs and it doesnt seems that good, but I also havent installed geon spacers yet, cant find them

[harsh dove]

imo, Alu plate is a challenge with HE, needs a good case

[elder shore]

Excuse me, does the poron switch pad or PE foam mod affect the performance of rapid trigger?

[gleaming crane]

Where can I purchase the salvation case?

[calm pulsar]

yeah it is less forigiving to stab imperfections and different extra noises like that

damnn im so used to tsangan now, I'm constantly typing the \\\\\ symbol 😄

[calm pulsar]

okay my verdict is

tune your stabs kids

these adaptive stabs arent bad, they are good modern stabs just like knights, but they still need lubing

cafege alu plate with the softest tadpoles seems kinda nice, feels soft

[harsh dove]

Sounds good bro

[harsh dove]

Froggin 🐸

[calm pulsar]

can't go wrong with any set on silver frog

[polar girder]

Nice x2

[calm pulsar]

I think you have a black alu cafege plate right?

mine seems even nicer than geon venom alu plate, not sure how, maybe its the switch cutouts being less tight🤔

[cursive mountain]

does anyone know any good looking white nordic keycaps ive been looking for so long but i couldnt find any for my 80he

[tidal frigate]

Your budget

[cursive mountain]

depends how good they look ive never bought keycaps before so idk what a good budget is but from what ive seen probably around 40€

[tidal frigate]

Then you have to look on aliexpress and amazon

[sage flicker]

we should have a pin for those compatible switches. I bought a few magneto TTC ones and they are good, but you can't use o-rings on them because of the box stem. Pushes the keycap higher. So I need to purchase non-box stem switches. Jade pros the best atm? Just need a few for testing.

[knotty iron]

I mean Wooting has ISO Nordic white shinethrough

[sage flicker]

also, i think low profile HE switches don't work with Wooting HE boards right? Could we get some low profile in future, so I don't have to use o-rings to shorten distance?

[cursive mountain]

i was looking for keycaps that look better than the basic ones wooting gives with some design

[gray berry]

does wootings coiled cable work with tachyon mode?

[devout totem]

Akko Bun Wonderland

[knotty iron]

PBTFans BOW base?

what about PBT cherry profile keycaps - BoW from omegakeys

[cursive mountain]

those are way too basic to be spending that much money on

what i had in mind is the white and black lined one in wooting store or that higround uses but in nordic and for the 80he

or i seen a printstream themed keycaps but i couldnt find a nordic one

[cursive mountain]

and this is way too overkill and i wanna keep it white themed

[plain stump]

is clip in or plate mount stabilizers compatible with the wooting60he

[knotty iron]

what about a topographical keycap set

[devout totem]

Some nordic keycaps
https://kbnordic.eu/keycaps/

[calm pulsar]

expensive quality keycaps don't have to be in your face

just saying
but there are a lot of interesting ones

[cursive mountain]

but thats what im looking for also i already have normal white keycaps as backups if i dont find anything better

[knotty iron]

XVX Topographic New Version Pattern Shine-Through OEM Profile IMD-Tech Keycap Set

check the materials

to see if its PBT

[cursive mountain]

i found some on aliexpress but its hard to see if its nordic because it doesnt say and the pictures are too bad quality to tell because the letters are on the side

[devout totem]

XVX topographic shine thru are ansi
https://www.xvxchannel.com/en-eu/products/topographic-new-version-pattern-shine-through-oem-profile-imd-tech-keycap-set

[cursive mountain]

keycaps look good but its not nordic layout

if only i can american i could buy any keycap set and it would work

[knotty iron]

oh right

[cursive mountain]

these are truly some 1st world problems ill just go with the normal white keycaps then ty for trying to help

[worldly igloo]

Are they good? i wanted to buy them

[crystal pagoda]

good in terms of what

[worldly igloo]

quality they re kinda looking fire but quality can be bad

i wanted to buy them but i have for now keycaps from razer mini

[crystal pagoda]

yeah pretty much

Ur buying it for the shinethrough tech

[worldly igloo]

I find them for 19$ with free delivery 60%

https://www.aliexpress.com/p/trade/confirm.html?objectId=1005007870002112&from=aliexpress&countryCode=PL&shippingCompany=CAINIAO_STANDARD&provinceCode=&cityCode=&aeOrderFrom=main_detail&skuAttr=14%3A1202%23white 61 keys&skuId=12000042625547537&skucustomAttr=&quantity=1&spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0&curPageLogUid=&pdpBuyParams={}

[devout totem]

Don't own this particular keycaps but own their low profile keycaps and they're high quality

[devout totem]

Not bad for $20 https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807683687360.html

[worldly igloo]

So should i buy them for 60he+ module? with tofu redux white case

[devout totem]

If you like them and think they're worth it, go for it

[paper bloom]

The 60HE module

u still need dsiwtches

Switches*

[worldly igloo]

I've geon raw he ordered

[paper bloom]

ah nice

[chilly mural]

Yey

[strange egret]

how would one go about grounding his 60he+ module with friction fit in the acrylic tofu60 ? ik for the aluminium one, you could just have 1 screw or solder a thin cable from any ground point on the module like usb shielding to the case(maybe a scratched part for solder to work)

but like, in the case of the acrylic one, there is nowhere to discharge beside the usb cable

or do i get some sort of metal weight to fit in the brass plate hole and use that ?

[worldly igloo]

Those keycaps will fit r?

i mean comp

[inner wren]

I was thinking of buying this but its not doubleshot is that fine will it change the sound alot?

Also will the letters go off after some time?

[stone flax]

Meh

Itll be fine

[inner wren]

I hope so else ill buy different ones the keycaps dont cost too much anyways

[copper ice]

do ihave to change stabilizers for the geon raw he

[sacred elm]

no

[fluid ravine]

Frog

Can I pet that frog 🐸

[harsh dove]

[stone flax]

looking froggy

[hollow dagger]

when do those go back in stock

[harsh dove]

https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-emma

They appear to be in stock here

[stone flax]

the case or the caps?

[harsh dove]

Oh true my b lol, they probs meant the case

[fast oriole]

LMK how you like them I just bought them too

[stone flax]

theyre good switches

[fast oriole]

I bought the 50g ones since I use my keyboard for school/coding as well as gaming

[stone flax]

[fast oriole]

The stock lekker switches are so heavy

[copper ice]

yeah i just purchased them

[stone flax]

theyre about mx red weight

[copper ice]

hope theres no issue like the gaterons with the stabilizers or whatever

[stone flax]

if there is, buy stem spacers

[chilly mural]

geon raw good

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, O-Rings with box stems are tricky. Especially with the big square box stem of TTCs. You could try putting the O-Ring in the bottom housing (where the stem slides in) if it’s small enough, so it’d function similarly.

[tawdry tree]

Current low profile magnetic switches are indeed not compatible with Woot’s boards. Their travel is 3.3mm, the same as Jades so they wouldn’t help much. I hope an actual low profile magnetic switch will happen, would be interesting to try.

[tawdry tree]

Yes.

[gray berry]

thx

[tawdry tree]

Depends if you have the 60HE or the 60HE+

[polar girder]

Yeah

[stone flax]

hai

[polar girder]

Good to hear

Yo

[stone flax]

did the mailer give an estimate or tracking #?

[polar girder]

No

Just letter dropped in box lol

[stone flax]

Ill be gone for a bit next week from home so i hope it goes to mailbox

[stone flax]

yeayea

[polar girder]

Yeah it’s in an envelope

[stone flax]

thanks

[fossil panther]

Is it a good idea to put foam in here to improve spacebar sound? (80HE, ignore dust)

[tawdry tree]

It’s only for metal cases. Not for acrylic ones. So you’re fine. Take the 60HE’s stock case as an example.

[strange egret]

aight ty

[tawdry tree]

👍

[stone flax]

preference

[tropic urchin]

Yeah it should help if your space bar sounds hollow, you basically wanna try and fit it into your space bar crevices inside

[fossil panther]

Yea, i did this additionally. Was not sure about the foam "inside" the keyboard, since there where some open contacts

[tropic urchin]

I’d remove the center piece as it muddies the sound and makes it sound bad

Should be good after that

[fossil panther]

Interessting, gonna try that

[tropic urchin]

It makes a huge difference

I didn’t think it would but @sacred elm proved me wrong on that

[sacred elm]

yea center piece makes it mushy

[tropic urchin]

Yeah mushy is a good way to describe it

[tawdry tree]

With TTCs especially

[stone flax]

Foam bad

[fossil panther]

Removed center piece and it indeed sounds better, now it sound more similar to the other keys

[sacred elm]

center piece makes it quieter but mushy

[fossil panther]

true, its louder again, but i prefer the sound now

[tropic urchin]

Nice!

[fossil panther]

probably the box stem pushing against the foam?

[tropic urchin]

Yeah that probably doesn’t help

[sacred elm]

you cant fully press the switch when there is foam in the middle

[sage flicker]

nice man, i think it worked lol. I put the o-rings under the stem, but then it just went over the springs and towards the bottom. Now when I close the housing, it doesn't travel as far down as a switch without the o-rings (I put two but maybe I can fit in more). 😁

[fossil panther]

Felt like i could, but the spacebar feels more bouncy again, thats what i like about the ttc magnetos

Thanks all for the advice (:

[tropic urchin]

I wish the Jade gaming didn’t sound like complete shit, interested in the max stability of TTCs but idk if I could ever handle the sound 😅

[sage flicker]

jade gaming? that a new switch? lol

[tropic urchin]

Boxstem jades that released a little after the max/pros

The name is a little goofy

[sage flicker]

oh the clear ones? thought they were RGB focused, not nec gaming.

[stone flax]

Theyre called gaming

bc yes

no actual reason

[tropic urchin]

https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-magnetic-jade-gaming-switch-set

These

They sound super plasticky compared to pros :/

[sacred elm]

you guys dont know

its called gaming because it boosts your fps in games

[tropic urchin]

Helps you speed run your marvel rivals ban with boosted fps 👀

[sacred elm]

real

[sage flicker]

apparently it's all the rave.

lmao, lemme try to find the other ones. I swear there's another one not called gaming.

ah yes, the jade max

i gotta see the diffs between max and gaming, lol

[tawdry tree]

Not under the stem, in the center “pipe” of the bottom housing, so when pressed down, the stem bumps into it. It shouldn’t touch the spring.

[sage flicker]

ah yeah, i thought about that as well, but it would still have the box issue? How would the stem square get past the o-ring and through the clear housing?

[tawdry tree]

Hmm, let me see if I can find a pic

[sacred elm]

lol

[tropic urchin]

Maxes gotta be some of the least smooth switches you can buy for $1 per switch 💀

[sage flicker]

ah ic so, jade gaming is the box stem variant.

so less wobble.

and not a clear stem ofc

ok i see u mentioned boxstem lol.

wonder how they compare to my 8pc TTCs i'm testing out.

prob same

[tawdry tree]

@sage flicker in there.

[sage flicker]

ahh yeah ofc, that's where it ended up anyway. The o-rings slid down the springs and into that area. 😄

[tawdry tree]

It shouldn’t touch the spring though.

The spring is on the outside of that “pipe”.

[glacial wind]

Not as good

I have both the jade gaming and ttc magneto pom. The jade gaming have a tad more top wobble and I can feel its box stem

[quick beacon]

Hey so I am currently using a pc plate on my custom wootring but am looking for something a bit more soldid, and also would like to have a black plate so I am thinking between fr4 and carbon wehats the sound difference between the two?

[glacial wind]

Carbon is firmer

[quick beacon]

and the sound profile more clacky like steel or more dark aswell like pc?

[sage flicker]

still touching it though

[tawdry tree]

a dark sound profile! 🗣️

[sage flicker]

interesting. glad i got the TTC then.

[tawdry tree]

Your O-Ring is a bit big so it can’t go in the “pipe”?

[tropic urchin]

I think it should be more clacky, but without some of the pingyness of steel. I’m ordering both CF and FR4 to test out

[quick beacon]

nioce, definitely getting a carbon fiber plate then

[sage flicker]

although I don't even really notice wobble that much anyway. do you guys? When typing/gaming?

[tropic urchin]

I’m excited for it too

[sage flicker]

possibly lol. I see what you're saying. Could go smaller diameter and have only the stem touch it. That works too.

[sacred elm]

need cf

[quick beacon]

I have a dark gray metal case and dark gray keycaps so I think this will look very clean

[sage flicker]

i think these o-rings are the standard mx ones u get from amazon. You happen to know the diameter of smaller one?

[tawdry tree]

Yeah. You do not want it on the outside touching the spring.

[sage flicker]

but it did work though technically. Is there a downside? lol

[tropic urchin]

I’m running Jade pros on mine so I’m looking forward to max clack 👀

Pc plate too dampening

[sage flicker]

btw I'm using metal keycaps and I think sound profile changes most with the material of keycap. Ceramic and metals give you that thonk.

[tawdry tree]

Smaller that’d fit are the same size as travel limiters/washers so an outer diameter of 4mm (or less), an inner diameter of 2mm (or less) and a thickness of 1mm (or less).

[tawdry tree]

I haven’t tried it like that but I’d imagine it causes inconsistencies with the spring. Maybe unwanted sounds as well.

[sage flicker]

gotcha thanks. will look it up

[harsh dove]

For the record, that's not me

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-okay-sus-fnaf-droingo-gif-11318544557271498711

[sage flicker]

oh i bought these a while ago and was confused because they were so small. They are super tiny lol, so these types of washers always go in that hole you mentioned? And only stem touches it. This versus the keycap o-ring method. Is this method better?

[tawdry tree]

Yeah they go in that hole where they’re separated from the spring. It’s not better per se but for TTCs it’s all you can do really.

If it’s better or not depends on the type of washer/O-Ring you use.

You want it to feel consistent and without any issues.

Let me know how they are. I’ve never used fiber washers, just plastics or rubber.

[sage flicker]

nice. think i found the rubber ones. thicker than the .5mm fiber ones I have. I'll try both, heh.

[noble vine]

how often are you meant to relube switches

[flat cobalt]

@sacred elm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBl8cKUg7c4&ab_channel=BadSeedTech

[sacred elm]

saw that

[inner wren]

Does anyone know where i could buy a cheap coiled cable for my wooting?

[flat cobalt]

I want it now

[inner wren]

In black

[sacred elm]

wooting

[inner wren]

Like 10-20 bucks

[marsh saffron]

No

You won't find a cable that works with wooting well for that price

[inner wren]

Really?

Oh mb

[sacred elm]

what night said

[inner wren]

Wrong ping

Sorry

[inner wren]

Okay

[marsh saffron]

Wooting sells one that is good, but it's like 50-60$?

[inner wren]

Ill see what i can find

[inner wren]

55

Im pretty sure

[marsh saffron]

Wootings is confirmed to work with tachyon at 100% brightness

[quick beacon]

whats trhe averge wpm typing acxtually?

[marsh saffron]

Probably very slow

[quick beacon]

probabably dead average

[sacred elm]

octopus 😭

[reef oar]

one of my aliexpress coiled cables works perfectly fine with tachyon mode

i think it's kinda just rng in quality

but also length matters

remember that

[forest hare]

I type like 100 avg

more if you count mistakes

still donno if its avg or good or whatever

[sacred elm]

i was getting 145-150wpm with 100% accuracy on my old blue switch keyboard

im getting 100 on wooting

[quick beacon]

aight I guess

[reef oar]

i have a typo every other word when doing these

[quick beacon]

yhea without accuracy its around 90 for me i think

managed to stay around 110wpm with 100% accuracy but then fell off massively

[marsh saffron]

Without punctuation or with?

[quick beacon]

only commas and dots

[marsh saffron]

Idk what mine is with that

On full punctuation I'm like 70-90

With none I can get like 120-130

[sage flicker]

damn u guys caught on to monkeytype also? Started using that recently as well, lol.

my WPM went up by shortening travel distance btw.

also been trying different wrist rest heights.

[quick beacon]

for me I use the wrong fingers for a lot of keys still

cant get over 80 comfortably without making a lot of mistakes tbh, having actuation at 0.3mm probably doesnt thelp though lol

[sacred elm]

yea you will have a lot of typos with 0.3 actuation

[chilly mural]

3.5mm actuation feels nice

[quick beacon]

2.5mm actuation def helped with accuracy

okay enough now

i think 2.5 feels perfect for typing

[obsidian lark]

Does someone know what are the 10 o circles that you get with the module? I don’t know if it’s o rings or o stickers

[fast oriole]

It’s O Rings

[obsidian lark]

It’s not gummy it’s like a sticker

[fast oriole]

Heart

[tawdry tree]

O-Ring stickers for on top of your case’s standoffs

A worse burger mount really.

[obsidian lark]

So what o rings should I buy I can buy it at a local store instead of ordering in online but what size should I buy for this I am using tofu60redux if it makes any difference

[tawdry tree]

I wouldn’t do burger, it’s not worth it.

[obsidian lark]

Can you recommend on Any other mods that can improve

[tawdry tree]

Try the frictionpad from Woot

[obsidian lark]

I will take a look

[tawdry tree]

It’s like $14

[obsidian lark]

But it will be easy to fall from the case doesn’t it?

[tawdry tree]

No, it’s really secure.

https://youtu.be/xFCu2hSg-oQ Tofu will sound similar.

given you’re using any of the switches he’s showing.

[stone flax]

its held by friction

[obsidian lark]

Another thing, does tape mod worth it? I afraid the when I will take it apart the tape will destroy the pub

Pcb

[polar girder]

Wait there’s KoM POM and KoM RGB?

[sacred elm]

yes

pom is smoother afaik

[polar girder]

lol

$1.20 per switch?

Good lord

[sacred elm]

hop on jade pros buddy

[stone flax]

Hop on raw he buddy

[sacred elm]

geon

[stone flax]

geongeongeongeongeon

[sacred elm]

geon

[sacred elm]

i have them 😭

[polar girder]

Idc about sound for HE rn

Just want best feel and performing

Like no weird sounds

https://mechkeys.com/blogs/news/ttc-introduces-three-new-magnetic-switches-uranus-rgb-magneto-full-pom-magneto

What’s up with TTC Uranus?

[fallen pecan]

budget koms, skip the SE it's shit

[polar girder]

Uranus E-Sports is goated?

Yeah e-sports only interesting ones

Has a soft spot tho

[fallen pecan]

the uranus switches are 3rd and 4th on the flux stability chart

[dusty wren]

how do i make my jade pros sound creamy

[sacred elm]

lube them

[stone flax]

creamy?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711913638193004556/1300554769336635493/creamy.gif

[fast oriole]

Kinda hard to make jade pros creamy isn’t it? Due to the closed bottom?

[tawdry tree]

If you use tape that isn’t very sticky like painters tape it’s fine. Very sticky tape like duct tape is a no go.

[tawdry tree]

All TTCs except for SEs do.

If you mean the upstroke silencer

whatever the correct name is.

[dusty wren]

which he switches can i make creamy then

[chrome marlin]

https://www.velocifiretech.com/products/in-stock-dt60-60-mechanical-keyboard?variant=41777323376758

Anyone try it?

[ionic breach]

the guy was here btw

[chrome marlin]

Case designer?

[ionic breach]

#1298112929979306075 message

[chrome marlin]

Thanks!

[fast oriole]

I believe sticky rice / geon raw he. It is pretty hard to achieve creamy with he switches, but usually lube is good

[tropic urchin]

Lube springs + give a decent bit to stem and it should be creamy enough

[dusty wren]

i lowkey don’t wanna get sticky rice

and for some reason i thought raw and jade pros were similar lol

[fast oriole]

I’ve heard of issues with overloading the pcb or whatever

[dusty wren]

alr then will do

[tropic urchin]

they are similar, but have some differences to them

[dusty wren]

i js tested out whatever the factory lube was

and it’s like

idk the word to describe it

[stone flax]

skibidi poppy

[dusty wren]

my friend said “tacky”

[stone flax]

creamy chunky?

Lol

Another substanceless buzzword

[dusty wren]

whatever that is

[stone flax]

https://www.theremingoat.com/blog/what-the-thock-is-clack-a-discussion-on-switch-sound

🤷‍♀️

[tropic urchin]

are you running steel plate

[dusty wren]

nah pc

[tropic urchin]

I went overboard with stem lube, but here’s mine post lube break in on zinc

has a noticeable pitch difference irl than stock i found

[tawdry tree]

Resolved.

[polar girder]

Oh kool

[polar girder]

You mean scratchy clack?

[dusty wren]

sure

oh when i look at it online it sounds way more scratchy than it does irl tho

but hwen i get time ima js lube it

[tropic urchin]

I noticed my pros were slightly scratchy/plasticky stock, so I went overboard on lube and eventually it corrected itself and now it has same sound volume but has a fuller sound now

[dusty wren]

are there any good switch openers for he switches cs the one i have rn its so hard to take the bottom part out after opening the switch

[tropic urchin]

I recommend geon opener

[dusty wren]

not the gateron one thats too much

alr then

[tropic urchin]

Pretty cheap on divinikey if you’re US based

If not can prob find it in other places

[dusty wren]

i js checked but its out of stock

on divinikey

[tropic urchin]

Tough

Oh wow no joke

Even the grey

Guess that goes to show you how much ppl like those openers 😅

[dusty wren]

bru on the geon website its 25 bucks for shipping

💀

[tropic urchin]

Ships from Korea is why

[tawdry tree]

get one off of Ali

[tropic urchin]

Usually it’s not sold out everywhere, but looks like unlucky timing

[flat cobalt]

55$ for me

[night atlas]

can you friction fit in a tofu60

and is it worth, or does it fuck w/accuracy

[marsh saffron]

Yes

[marsh saffron]

It works just fine

[worldly igloo]

Should i order from him? https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/1005007870002112.html#nav-specification

[barren wasp]

are geon raws as good as jade pros

[fast oriole]

Yes

[worldly igloo]

yea i just ordered them

[barren wasp]

what sounds cleaner

[worldly igloo]

tofu60 redux 60he+ module geon raw he and those keycaps https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/1005007870002112.html#nav-specification

[worldly igloo]

despeds on u

i think

You can check sound test yk

[barren wasp]

they sound too similar and ik switches sound different irl

[worldly igloo]

yea

u need to

[fast oriole]

in my opinion the geon raw he

[tropic urchin]

Ppl will give you different inputs, but if you’re torn between the two and the Jade pro RGB hasn’t scared you off just pick it out of a hat tbh

[cedar gate]

I prefer raws but I would check out sound tests

[tropic urchin]

Won’t go wrong with either

[cedar gate]

This stuff is like 90% preference so what's better is really up to you

[tropic urchin]

Amen

[barren wasp]

what about sticky rice v2s i cant find any sound tests for them

[tropic urchin]

https://youtu.be/uTmfsY8fH68

[hollow bear]

time is almost here for me to place an order for my keyboard badge :DD

[tropic urchin]

Theyre like #2-3 in that video

[silver grove]

is the venom 60 compatible with wooting plates? should be the same right?

[calm pulsar]

6.25 u variant maybe, but still not guaranteed

[tawdry tree]

Shine through keycaps with legends on the side like that will be quite dim. Woot has north facing LEDs, south facing LEDs would be optimal for those keycaps.

so the legends will be a lot dimmer than on the picture.

[tawdry tree]

If standoffs line up, but I doubt they will.

[cedar gate]

not confirmed yet the 7u version will not tho

[silver grove]

i got the 6.25 so maybe i am chillin🫡

[cedar gate]

yea there is a good chance it is compatible especially with the high quality work we are used to seeing from geon but it still isn't confirmed

[calm pulsar]

just try to see if the standoffs are in the same spots

[night atlas]

Out of curiosity and not doubt, when was the last time the compatible case list was updated? Wondering if there are more cases that've been discovered to be compatible.

Specifically for the 60HE

I vaguely remember seeing someone mention on reddit that most gh60 cases work, but obviously that could be untrue

[cyan lark]

I'm doing it, gonna try out a friction fit on my 60HE in the alumaze case 🤞
Gonna add a grounding pad

[marsh saffron]

Idk if it's been updated recently or nkt

Was trying to find a case in there with wasn't on the list

But I found a reddit post from over a year ago mentioning that it was compatible and wooting even replied to the post

[sacred elm]

that list is outdated

[stone flax]

why would it be untrue

60he itself has mounting points that conform to gh60

[silver grove]

prolly what i gonna end up doing xD also asked in the geons dc maybe hes gonna confirm it

[stone flax]

T_T

just dont use standoffs bro

🧠

[night atlas]

I say it could be untrue cause there isn't solid proof that all gh60 cases are compatible.

Just a healthy amount of skepticism (and money)

[stone flax]

not all gh60 cases are compatible

[night atlas]

I know... that's why I said it could be untrue lol.

answering your question of "why would it be untrue"

[polar girder]

Could be or is?

[stone flax]

im not contesting you skepticism for "all cases"

[polar girder]

Lolz

[stone flax]

but the guy said most

and yeah

most cases is true

[night atlas]

could

[night atlas]

gotcha, lil misunderstanding on both sides

[north locust]

[cedar gate]

has anyone tried spacebar foam

what is your experience with it. I ordered it because I thought my space bar was too loud

[violet grove]

did anyone here try glorious HE switches in their wooting yet glorious claims they are 'only' compatible with their HE board but it sounds like bs https://www.gloriousgaming.com/products/raptor-he-switches

been waiting ages for a tactile or clicky HE switch i rarely use the analog input

hall effect is just a better switch technology in basically every way even if you are using a fixed actuation point

got sick of shitty tactile and clicky switches where they actuate right before the point or have chatter

[cyan lark]

Gotta know what the polarity of their magnets are to know if they're compatible, unfortunately.

[tawdry tree]

Not optimally afaik, you can use them just fine but they have weaker magnets. So to use them properly you can only set your actuation point between 0.15 and 3.7mm or so.

They are just recolors of cheaper magnetic switches

I wouldn’t recommend buying them just because they’re way too expensive

[violet grove]

are any other manufacturers working on hall effect tactile and clicky at all currently that you know of

[tawdry tree]

Woot supports both polarities optimally, just the magnet’s strength is what matters.

[tawdry tree]

No, not that I know of. There’s a mod you can do to make Lekkers or Jades clicky though, if you want.

[violet grove]

what is the mod

right now have frankensteined raptorhe with the red housing and the lekker stem and some aliexpress stainless before the wooting spring pack came out

[tawdry tree]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[violet grove]

got tired of housing wobble and light springs

[tidal frigate]

They are omly compatible with their board.

[tidal frigate]

If you know who to ask, you will know

[tawdry tree]

?

@violet grove Here’s the original and much cheaper version of those Glorious switches: https://a.aliexpress.com/_EI55zgc same applies, not optimally compatible and you’ll can only set your actuation point between 0.15 and 3.7mm or so.

Pink = Linear
Red = Linear
Brown = Tactile
Blue = Clicky
same as cherry.

[violet grove]

so you think they are worse quality than doing something like the mod you did with combining switches

one of my favorite switches other than the poor QC and inconsistent actuation points were kailh box navy with the heavy springs and click bars

got tired of having to 'bin' the switches for keys like wasd because they would actuate just resting on them

the leaf contact would send a signal before the click bar

[chrome marlin]

This is super interesting and i might give it a try

[tawdry tree]

I personally don’t prefer clicky switches but those Outemus or Glorious’ switches aren’t of great quality. They’re quite scratchy and the click/bump isn’t clean.

[chrome marlin]

wow

[violet grove]

i just like very sharp tactile bump with hard falloff and the thing that does that the best is click bar or buckling spring and they both happen to be clicky

dont really care what it sounds like

used to use IBM model M and model F daily

got tired of the un-usability for gaming and issues with stuff like converters to usb

high latency and trash polling rate

or lack of NKRO

[tawdry tree]

There are AEBoards tactile magnetic switches that should be releasing soon ish.

[violet grove]

thats interesting

https://chart-studio.plotly.com/~haata/200/ibm-capacitive-buckling-spring-f-at.png

[tawdry tree]

The click leaf mod is really clicky when used with Jades, less so with KS-20Us but you could grab a few and try it for yourself.

[violet grove]

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=112018.0;attach=265671;image

[tawdry tree]

It’s a lot sharper than the Outemus, that’s for sure.

[cyan lark]

When you're right, you're right. I had tried one of my Jades in my Q1 HE and it just did not work, so I didn't try the other way around. The nebula switch in the wooting worked - not well, mind you, but functional. TIL.

[violet grove]

one of the main reasons i bought a wooting board is i finally got tired of everything having a large debounce window and/or key chatter it was a tradeoff

any gaming type of board with low latency had horrible switch chatter eventually

1-2 keys would start ttypping likke this

bad technology

capacitive and hall effect make it look like a joke

any leaf contact switches

[cyan lark]

I guess the sensors in the Q1 HE are somehow only for specific polarization/orientation? Or maybe very specific magnet strength?

[tawdry tree]

Nebulas are extremely interesting by the way. They are from the KS-37 series which normally aren’t (and never will be) compatible with Woot’s boards because their magnet orientation is horizontal rather than vertical. The Nebulas are the only KS-37 series switches with a vertical pole orientation which makes them compatible (but not yet optimally as they still have weak magnets). 😅

[cyan lark]

Oh they're sideways! Huh.

Still curious why other switches with presumably stronger magnets just don't work at all in it

[violet grove]

do wooting boards just 'adapt' to the magnet strength or whatever and that is why

it just wont work as optimally as a lekker

[tawdry tree]

Most likely, yeah. Woot’s boards were previously only compatible with the north polarity but Simon released a firmware update which made both compatible. 🥰

[violet grove]

what do you have to do if they are backwards is there a switch in s/w or does it auto detect the orientation

[tawdry tree]

Yeah precisely.

[cyan lark]

Gotcha. Yeah I dunno, I popped a couple different wooting compatible switches into the Q1 HE and they just did not function at all. This test I just did, the other way around, they were picked up but only showed up as having ~3.5mm travel distance in Wootility, presumably b/c of the weaker magnet Aligner mentioned.

[tawdry tree]

That doesn’t matter for boards compatible with a vertical magnet orientation. For boards like the Q1, the switch orientation does indeed matter and they only work one way.

[tawdry tree]

Finding switches compatible with the Q1 is tricky. I don’t think their firmware can adapt very well.

[cyan lark]

Q1 isn't a bad board, but boy do I regret not realizing ahead of time the switch compatibility issue. There's basically their way or the highway.

I heard you can do some housing swaps for the Jade Mini (or some Jade variant like that)

[tawdry tree]

It still baffles me why they went that way. Essentially having only their switches compatible.

[tawdry tree]

Yes you can. I believe it was a stem swap. So Jade Mini E’s housing with Nebula stems.

[cyan lark]

I guess vendor lock-in? They do show up in brick & mortar retail which is an advantage to getting people to buy in.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah not sure

[cyan lark]

I should maybe do that since I suspect the Q1 is going to be inherited by my wife in the not too distant future.

[tawdry tree]

To a certain degree, yes. Woot’s boards can handle switches with stronger magnets than Lekkers quite well but weaker ones not yet (optimally).

[tawdry tree]

Yeah you should. I’d say it’s an upgrade for sure.

[cyan lark]

sigh 💸

And I know she likes the jades already too, cause she tried out my 80HE with them in and was practically drooling over the sound. The things we do for love.

(assuming they're similar enough in feel/sound)

[tawdry tree]

They are. The Jade Mini Es are dual rail, compared to regular Jades or Jade Pros which aren’t but besides that they are almost identical.

Sound is similar, total travel is as well.

[cyan lark]

Awesome, thanks for blowing my money for me bud.

[tawdry tree]

😂 You’re welcome man.

[violet grove]

i wonder if the aliexpress switches have the same type of spring as lekker

[tawdry tree]

Depends which switches.

[stone flax]

they are flipped ks-37's

[dry rune]

Is heatshrinking the stab wire a bad idea

[violet grove]

id really like if those could just have the 100g wooting spring pack put into them but may just have to order and find out

already have the springs

[tawdry tree]

All Hejin (Grain Gold (Manufacturer)) have the same springs as Gateron does. They are cross compatible.

[violet grove]

i have unpopular keyboard preferences

very heavy springs and clicky/tactile

dont care about sound signature

[stone flax]

um those in conjunction are especially unpopular

the heavier the spring the weaker the bump to an extent

[tawdry tree]

There are springs on Ali compatible with most magnetic switches.

[stone flax]

TwT

[dry rune]

@stone flax

[tawdry tree]

Why would you?

[stone flax]

dielectric grease

but yeah

[dry rune]

Less clearance

[violet grove]

heavier springs partially overcome wobble near top of keystroke and inconsistencies in the travel it seems like to me

[stone flax]

thats better than bandaids

[tawdry tree]

Which stabs?

[stone flax]

but at the same time

just use grease

:3

[dry rune]

stock 60he

[dry rune]

No idea what that is in finnish XD

[tawdry tree]

Don’t go through the trouble man, just tune them.

[stone flax]

T_T

[stone flax]

it makes sense for really thin and malleable wires relative to housings like cherry

but at the same time

[tawdry tree]

Eh, I wouldn’t really say that but I get what you mean.

[stone flax]

i really doubt he needs to do this

[dry rune]

So is dielectric grease better than basic lube??

[stone flax]

doesn't seperate as quickly for wire

yes

[violet grove]

only other thing id wish my keyboard would have the option of is a metal case but its two HE so nobody will ever make one

[dry rune]

hmh

[stone flax]

unless u have a stabilizer that doesnt need a lot of lube in the first place you should opt for something like bdz or grease for wire

[violet grove]

would have to make one or get a quote from a machine shop which would be more expensive than the entire keyboard

[tawdry tree]

Files are public, make one yourself. 😼

[violet grove]

yeah ive thought about it

[cyan lark]

Just pick up a milling machine np

[violet grove]

would end up doing it out of mild steel probably and just painting it after or bluing it

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, it can be fun though.

[dry rune]

well I dont think i will find dielectric grease

[violet grove]

I have a mill but it has shit spindle bearings which are being replaced

not CNC

[tawdry tree]

Unless you live on the moon, it’s really common.

Most hardware stores have it.

[tawdry tree]

Just makes it a tad bit more of a challenge. 😂

[dry rune]

can I just use this

[violet grove]

it atleast is a nice big one with a 40 spindle instead of r8 or some dinky one

can run large endmills

[cyan lark]

It just can't be conductive. Don't save $5 and ruin your expensive keeb.

[tawdry tree]

That’s for ball bearings, I’m not sure if it’d be right.

[dry rune]

well i cant find it

[tawdry tree]

wth

[cyan lark]

https://tenor.com/view/tried-nothing-flanders-out-of-gif-9662944

[violet grove]

https://www.permatex.com/products/lubricants/speciality-lubricants/permatex-dielectric-tune-up-grease-3-oz/

[dry rune]

Doesn't look like finland

[tawdry tree]

bro

[violet grove]

it is silicone grease that is clear

[tawdry tree]

it’s not possible that there isn’t a hardware store near you that has it.

I won’t believe it

[violet grove]

id assume basically any CLEAR silicone grease is non conductive

[dry rune]

idk i tried to translate it and found nothing with the name

[tawdry tree]

just search dielectric grease

see what happens

not translated

[cyan lark]

Or maybe non-conductive grease?

[violet grove]

try 'spark plug grease'

[dry rune]

I only find result from online stores

[tawdry tree]

If shipping isn’t a whole lot, then that’s fine as well.

Maybe you can search on the site of a hardware store near you?

[dry rune]

I tried

[worldly igloo]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1313929030646366280 hes rgb is so good

[tawdry tree]

😕

[dry rune]

I mean this is like the closest one

"water vaseline"

[cyan lark]

I'd call the store and talk to them. Just explain you need some non-conductive/dielectric grease, I bet the person working there will know what you're talking about and will let you know.

[tawdry tree]

Adhesive?!

[worldly igloo]

@tawdry tree

[dry rune]

Bruh guess im gonna just leave them be

[tawdry tree]

Huh

[dry rune]

sounds like shit

but whatever

[tawdry tree]

They aren’t shine through legend keycaps?

[stone flax]

wooting sells a lube kit

with molokyte

if u were able to buy a keyboard

[tawdry tree]

Can always order off of AliExpress.

[stone flax]

u can buy lube from them

[stone flax]

aasdoi hasdfhuisadhfusdh

aliexpress lubes

[tawdry tree]

😂😂

[stone flax]

[tawdry tree]

it’s fine

[stone flax]

id say just buy wooting lube

[dry rune]

[stone flax]

since he alr bought a board

it should ship to him

[dry rune]

U just told me that the whateverfucking grease was better than lube

now u tell me to buy lube

[calm pulsar]

it's a kit brother

has multiple kinds

[stone flax]

?

its a kit

chillax

[dry rune]

25€

omd

[calm pulsar]

then look on aliexpress or amazon

[stone flax]

TwT, do this for spring oils and grease not for lube

unless u wanna pay big prices on krytox

or overpriced ali lube

[honest flume]

https://www.amazon.com/GATERON-Magnetic-Jade-Pro-Pre-Travel/dp/B0DFGZ9D6L?crid=TYRGGDFL4Q45&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.jzYs4lfss5ie3-PiNGddb7Sc1i2YiSmrqa4DOyHZTNaLxNXz_vbfTCt0lLUD7aLpN79-EXs8dCMFqGdeDpOGhXjkXKD2vgwi_v4mlw29beQkfMVYm_SWorFYgLg4J8CQORHhQNGSWr9voPIhPwF2VOyC955UUdhT_MWgMQA2oQba258jtvVIc-u_aP2cKe6iJHmf_HHO-CkVO8ag6eesJ4DHn9mCYu0yNY25llZaMrM.BOjkOUc725NZPjB2Fxtdkp4Uf6XxxlDt3nCs2dC6uOE&dib_tag=se&keywords=gateron%2Bjade%2Bpros&qid=1734730789&sprefix=gateron%2Bjade%2Bpro%2Caps%2C168&sr=8-1&th=1

these are legit right?

[calm pulsar]

yeah but I mean if he doesnt want to pay 25 euros for a kit

[honest flume]

off amazon?

buying jadew pros i have an amazon gift card

[tawdry tree]

[stone flax]

ya

[honest flume]

alright putting htem on the 80he

[tawdry tree]

amazon links getting longer every week

[honest flume]

with stock stabs, heard the spacebar can be weird

[tawdry tree]

which keycaps are u using?

[cedar gate]

not the stabs the plate

steel plate makes the space bar sound really "unique"

[honest flume]

https://divinikey.com/products/mw-yeeti-light-keycap-set

[stone flax]

he could be talking about see-sawing

[tawdry tree]

Eh, will probably be fine. If you encounter any issues then you can get spacers or long pole stabs.

[cedar gate]

has anyone tried spacebar foam I ordered sm not sure how it will go?

it was only 5$ so idrc tho

[honest flume]

wait doesnt the 80he come with a PC plate?

[tawdry tree]

It’s can be alright.

[cedar gate]

it comes with a PC plate yea

[cedar gate]

so it makes it quieter and deeper? thats what i want

[tawdry tree]

It does, why?

[rustic sparrow]

Can someone send me a link forspacebar foam

[honest flume]

was just confused bc the steele plate mentioned here

[stone flax]

what are you planing

[tawdry tree]

It can, yeah.

[rustic sparrow]

To buy it

[tawdry tree]

Depends a lot on build though.

[honest flume]

alright ill try jade pros with the 80he stock stabs lets see how it is

pc plate

[shadow steppe]

what are the best wooting switches rn?

[tawdry tree]

define best.

[stone flax]

jade pro and raw he for closed bottom goodness, ttc koms for stability

[calm pulsar]

cream thock

[stone flax]

who got the biggest gyatt

?

[tawdry tree]

marble clack

[calm pulsar]

geon

[stone flax]

:0

arcccccccc

im gonna get to try out a salvation soon

on a venom

TwT

[calm pulsar]

ohh sick combo

[ionic breach]

oh ya

[stone flax]

im also still iffy on using the stock fr4 plate without standoffs for the frog build

[ionic breach]

does the venom fit the snake board?

[stone flax]

but you said it should be fine right

[stone flax]

this one?

[calm pulsar]

holyyy

[ionic breach]

lemme find the pcb

[calm pulsar]

what is that 😮

[stone flax]

i remember seeing this have one of the shittiest ic posts of all time

very non descript on their website

also 570 dollars where ur whole gimmick is a snake you can NEVER see in real use

is

[calm pulsar]

yeah when I tried it the switches were holding it in place very well
I think you're fine, the combined force of all 60 smth switches will hold it properly

[tawdry tree]

plate mounts or screw ins?

[calm pulsar]

at least you need quite a bit of force to separate the plate with all the switches installed

[cyan lark]

Is that a sexual thing?

[stone flax]

if you want it to be

[calm pulsar]

oh and stabs will help too haha
I used screw-ins

[knotty iron]

brother

[stone flax]

the saddest thing is the fact its an fr4 plate

😭

ill probably buy an alu plate down the line

from geon or someone else

[knotty iron]

what are you guys talking about

[stone flax]

once plate files release

[tawdry tree]

Plate mounts would be optimal so there’s never any pressure on the PCB.

it’s gonna be tricky

putting keycaps on. ^

[calm pulsar]

I was on alu for a long time and switched to fr4 and it became a bit softer feeling, which is also nice from time to time, so it's not bad imo

[tawdry tree]

keyboard_modding

🙂

[calm pulsar]

well the thing is, the standoffs are actually on PCB and not on the plate for venom

[cyan lark]

WHAT DOES GYATT MEAN?
Gyatt or gyat is a slang term that is used to express strong excitement, surprise, or admiration. Gyatt is most commonly used as an exclamation in reaction to seeing a large butt (that is, the buttocks) and may be used as a noun to mean a large butt.
Learn something new every day here.

I did squats today, my gyatt is popping.

[stone flax]

hmMMMmmmmMMmmmMMm

[stone flax]

okay the term came from the onamotapoeia people made in seeing a huge rotund butt

like

u see a butt

you go

"gyottdamn!!"

it got contracted to

"gyatt!!!"

[cyan lark]

My quote kinda failed

[tawdry tree]

When you put pressure on the stabilizer with a keycap, the PCB and plate didn’t separate?

[stone flax]

basically a way to say "goddamn!"

[cyan lark]

TIL!

[tawdry tree]

That should happen

[calm pulsar]

hmm maybe I was installing caps with the pcb just laying on the table

or maybe they were installed alrdy so I didnt experience it

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, no problem when the PCB is supported.

This happened when Cam tried the frog plate with the 60HE

w/o standoffs

putting keycaps on was kinda a pain when the board is already in

[sacred elm]

arc, do you have fr4 + jade pro sound test?

[tawdry tree]

so if you don’t swap the caps and put them on before, it’s fine.

[calm pulsar]

tbh I frankened my pros immediately when getting them

I only have an fr4 test with raws, and also there is poron foam, and I kinda dislike foam these days

[sacred elm]

would you say fr4 is way stiffer than pc?

I want to get stiffer plate for my 80he

pc isnt it

[tropic urchin]

Facts

[calm pulsar]

fr4 is for sure stiffer than any plastic plate, cause it's like a pcb essentially

[tawdry tree]

It is

[calm pulsar]

I liked fr4 with my jade knights

[sacred elm]

interesting, then i might go with fr4

[tawdry tree]

which stabs are you using?

[sacred elm]

stock

80he

[tawdry tree]

ah, then you’re good

[calm pulsar]

other popular dense plates would be CF and Alu

[tropic urchin]

Shafie should def order both FR4 and CF

[sacred elm]

yea i kinda dislike pc plate for games that I play, its too soft for me. I enjoy 60he with steel plate way more than PC

[tawdry tree]

the hype fr4 plate is for plate mounts, so not all stabs are compatible.

[tropic urchin]

Definitely not sponsored by the keyboard fun store or anything

[calm pulsar]

yeah then fr4 or other denser plates will help here

[calm pulsar]

haha I have so many plates from them

I think 4

[sacred elm]

lol

[tropic urchin]

I’ll have 2 by EoY

Low key I might be sleeping on the brass

[sacred elm]

nah ill just get 1

probably fr4

[tropic urchin]

That’s close to 2 tho

[sacred elm]

but ill wait for you

[tropic urchin]

I might get brass at a later date

It has some weird properties to it that sounds interesting in some tests

[tawdry tree]

tell them to change their plate design pls 😭

[tropic urchin]

If I get up to 4 plate purchases then maybe they’ll listen to me

[calm pulsar]

btw I found some weird venom compatible plate on aliexpress

[stone flax]

ya but it all depends

[calm pulsar]

let me look it up

[stone flax]

flex cut fr4 vs thick pc plate for example

[calm pulsar]

da hell is FCFRP plate

[tropic urchin]

Hyperboring is wild

[calm pulsar]

looks like it is multi layout

[stone flax]

carbon fiber

[calm pulsar]

ahh okay

[stone flax]

probably means "forged carbon fiber something something"

forged carbon fiber for role playing

[calm pulsar]

these plates are looking nice btw, I like that they are for pcb mounted stabs only

[stone flax]

yea the salvation build will have an alu hyperboring plate

and it supports both 7u and 6.25

very baller

[calm pulsar]

very poggers

[barren wasp]

yes thats where i got mine

[sacred elm]

wtf

lmao

[cyan lark]

These 80he plates are all Ali specials for now, right?

[tawdry tree]

Only sold on Ali you mean?

[cyan lark]

Yeah

[tawdry tree]

I think a site has them too

In NA

mod somthing

[calm pulsar]

there is a chinese manufacturer that does wooting stuff since 60he was around, but maybe they sell somewhere else too

[cyan lark]

Just haven’t used Ali before and I don’t think I’m ready to

[tawdry tree]

😂😂

[ionic breach]

https://torontokeyboardman.ca/products/wooting-80he-modding-kit

[calm pulsar]

I got a shitload of stuff from there

[tawdry tree]

yeah that

oh it’s called modding kit lol

[cyan lark]

Bless you all, thx

[sacred elm]

way more expensive than on ali

[calm pulsar]

wait lol it has an alternative to the silicone insert???

that's huge actually

I always thought 80he is limited to only having the silicone thing

cause it's how it mounts

[cyan lark]

Yeah doesn’t the silicone act as the standoff from the case? Not sure how foam could replace that

[tawdry tree]

It’s a lot less stiff probably

[sacred elm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0lrUTumqbU

[tawdry tree]

forged carbon hype

looks sick

[calm pulsar]

seems it fits in the case the same way silicone does, but yeah it will be way softer that way

[cyan lark]

Oh there’s extra foam strips to form the gasket

[tawdry tree]

yeah