🔧│keyboard_modding

[dry rune]

I just got the tofu60 case and why do all of the keys sounds so different

and my space sounds terrible

[fluid ravine]

Typical tray mount

[dry rune]

How to fix

I'm getting my geon raws soon

But I don't think that's gonna fix it

[fluid ravine]

Best solutions is to just change the mount like into friction mount for example

[dry rune]

i dont even know what is mount

wdym by mount

[stone flax]

?

As a keyboard does

Keyboards sound like that

Different areas different rows different keys sound different

Plus its a traymount

[fluid ravine]

Dead spots as well

[dry rune]

my head is bout to explode

[fluid ravine]

Typical tray

[dry rune]

This shit probably sounded even better on the stock case

[stone flax]

Hot spots too

[fluid ravine]

Yup

[stone flax]

u got the internal weight in there?

[dry rune]

No

[stone flax]

prolly exarcebates the issue if ur missing it

yeah

[dry rune]

I put foam inside it

[stone flax]

try friction mounting with o-ring

Should lead to more even sound

and consider the brass internal weight

[dry rune]

I dont have o ringssss

[stone flax]

or something else

To fill the gap

[stone flax]

then consider one

[fluid ravine]

Ok normally in a keyboard, all keys sound different, especially by row. Tray mount, meaning g that you screw in your module into your case at certain spots, provides different pressure which is spread at certain spots instead evenly. So the uneven sound makes it works, which we call hot spots and dead spots.

[stone flax]

AKA most traymounts suck

:p

[fluid ravine]

It's just more about how the pcb contacts the case all and all

[fluid ravine]

Exactly 👆

[dry rune]

So what do I need to order

[stone flax]

o-ring

[fluid ravine]

If you're from NA you can get Gummy orings from Cannonkeys or Grave shift

[stone flax]

do you find the board hollow sounding?

[fluid ravine]

Cannonkeys: Bakeneko60 Oring
Graveshift: M size Oring

[dry rune]

I'm from Finland

[stone flax]

thoughts on people o-ring mounting in salvations?

[fluid ravine]

O heeeek no

[fluid ravine]

Oh! Or you can wait for wooting to release their friction pad separately

[dry rune]

WHY ARE T

Didnt mean to put that text lol

[fluid ravine]

Lul

[stone flax]

tune ur spacebar

WHY ARE T

[dry rune]

WHY ARE T

[stone flax]

ya it kinda does

[fluid ravine]

What it sound like
I'm in class rn lmfao

[stone flax]

also @fluid ravine

[fluid ravine]

Sup

[stone flax]

im going to try wheel weights to replace the foam fillers in one of my boards

looks neat

[fluid ravine]

Ahhhhh

[dry rune]

TUNE

WHAT

[stone flax]

:<

[dry rune]

I ONLY KNOW HOW TO TUNE MOPEDS

[fluid ravine]

Replacement for battery/weight

[stone flax]

sad sight

[fluid ravine]

Ah hell yeah

Should be worth

[stone flax]

its just two rectangles of light foam

I should get maybe 150-200 grams?

[fluid ravine]

[stone flax]

added

[fluid ravine]

Yeah about so

[stone flax]

excited

[fluid ravine]

Mhm

[stone flax]

Ur stabilizers

also

[fluid ravine]

Your stabilizers

[stone flax]

Consider brass weight

Even with foam

Ur board is hollow

[dry rune]

im broke

[stone flax]

Unless u like that sound

[fluid ravine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxHb6CJc9V8

[stone flax]

😭

Tuning stabs

Is like

inexpensive

[dry rune]

like 15 euros

[fluid ravine]

Me with no lube for the past few months

[fluid ravine]

Neo65?

[stone flax]

80

[stuck night]

guys, anyone on here try ttc kom on 80he?

[fast oriole]

Does anyone personally have the l45 v2s that can tell me how good they are for typing as well as gaming

[rustic sparrow]

Someone tried magnetos if you wanna see

So goddamn clacky 😭

Hurts my ears

[cyan lark]

I have and use(d) magnetos and L45, ama.

They're both good in their own ways. preference.gif

[rustic sparrow]

Embed fail or what

[fast oriole]

Are the L45 good for typing

[cyan lark]

preference.gif this isn't working for you? I see it.

They're good for typing, sure. If you like 45g weight.

[stuck night]

oh sh

[rustic sparrow]

I saw cannon keys and the novelties and sets are fire but so expensive 😭

[stuck night]

i hate clacky

[rustic sparrow]

Oh mb

I thought they same thing or smth

[cyan lark]

I posted a sound test of them yesterday

[rustic sparrow]

I only know geon raws and jade pros

[stuck night]

i dont care with sound profile of magnetic keyboard

[cyan lark]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[stuck night]

but yea as long as i have atk rs7 pro, melgeek made68 pro, they are clack. i thunk is my opinion all magnetic keyboard is clack

ni way its so clacky

yea its no problem for me

[cyan lark]

Maybe they are all clacky, but that's like saying all people are smelly. It's a spectrum.

[stuck night]

im so interesting with the performance

[tawdry tree]

but why?!

[cyan lark]

At the very least on an objective level some are louder than others. The quality of the sound could be argued until the end of time by keyboard neckbeards.

[stuck night]

i had to bought it 70 pcs of ttc kom and 10 geon raptor

ttc kom is pretty good for now?

[cyan lark]

I think they feel pretty great. Sound is up to you.

[stuck night]

ya i playing game usung iems, so actually idc with the sound profile

[tawdry tree]

They are, the second iteration of them particularly. The first version with the hole in the bottom sounds a lot worse.

[stuck night]

its ttc kom better than geon raw or gateron jade series?

[tawdry tree]

In terms of stability, yes.

[stuck night]

okay its so interesting for me

i only try 3 switches on magnetic keyboard

gateron jade amethyst, gateron ks-37, and geon raptor. so far geon raptor is best for me

[stone flax]

same people who ask "can i o-ring friction mount and burger mount at the same time"

modding to mod i guess

[stuck night]

geon raptor is most responsive from gat jade amethyst and ks37

[stone flax]

bruh

u tried these on different boards is the thing tho

[stuck night]

jade amethyst and geon raptor on atk rs7 pro

ks37 in polar65

[tawdry tree]

I think friction on salv would be annoying asf

[tawdry tree]

KS-37s are just KS-20Us which suck. Amethyst Jades are just Jades which are fine.

Raptors are Lekker V1 clones which suck as well.

[stuck night]

ah ic

so raw he better than raptors?

[tawdry tree]

By a long shot, yeah. Different sound profile though.

[stuck night]

yeah i tried amethyst so far its nit bad for me

[stone flax]

also worthless

[tawdry tree]

Jades are fine.

[stone flax]

ur literally turning it back into an average joe board

like its mount is what makes it fun and to just draw away from it

[stuck night]

jades and jade pro also same performance?

[tawdry tree]

it’s definitely not worth but it could help with the slight inconsistency that you get with rubber over stabdoffs in tray

I’ll try it when they release the friction pad

[tawdry tree]

Jade Pros have reduced wobble.

and a cleaner sound.

[stone flax]

i mean

the point of salvation is mounting on leaf springs that all bounce evenly

even if theres hotspots atleast the bounce is even and fun

[tawdry tree]

yeah

[stone flax]

why kill that aspect

[tawdry tree]

gotta stack mods bro

leaf spring + friction

holy

👽

[stone flax]

tape mod + pe foam + burger mount + friction pad + o-ring

🧠

[tawdry tree]

😂😂😂

could add burger to it as well yeah

[stone flax]

"why isnt my usb c lining up"

[tawdry tree]

ur a genius

[stone flax]

😭

[polar girder]

https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/s/K5nVPViHzJ

[stone flax]

nyot bad

especially with frog no longer in production

[stuck night]

okay so its same performance right?

[stone flax]

also do you know how much it will cost to get the tadpoles?

[fluid ravine]

Embrace the clack!!! Raaaaa

[polar girder]

Yeah sorry I haven’t checked but probably I’ll $5 tops or something

[stone flax]

want me to paypal it over? or

[tawdry tree]

Technically not, if more wobble = bigger deadzone then performance is better on Jade Pros compared to Jades. It’d be such a slight amount that you wouldn’t even notice it though.

[polar girder]

Yeah and the custom plate

[stone flax]

:<<<<

yepyep

good deal all around for full built

[polar girder]

Right right

[polar girder]

Yeah let me just bring them to work tomorrow and get it sorted and let you know

[stuck night]

okay thanks for information

i must try jade pro

jade pro in my country its cso exoensive

its like $1 (?)

[tawdry tree]

If you care only for performance and have TTC KOMs already, you’re set.

[stuck night]

per switch

yea i bought ttc kom

[tawdry tree]

Try AliExpress, if they ship to you.

[tawdry tree]

It’s the best in terms of performance currently.

[stuck night]

2 weeks ago i b9ght it from taobao

bcs aliex is banned my county

lol

i just waiting my 80he and ttc kom rn

i only can order from other country with forwarder lol

i cant by for my self

[tawdry tree]

Taobao is cheap but shipping is a pain outside of Asia

outside of China alone even

[stuck night]

china to sg its free, byt sg to my country 10-20$

by per kgs

before tax

[tawdry tree]

yeah

that makes it expensive again

😕

[prime orbit]

Anyone get the friction pad?

[prime orbit]

Wait fr? Thought switches don’t affect performance

[tawdry tree]

It’s not yet released right?

[tawdry tree]

That’s what Simon said so yeah.

[prime orbit]

It’s on the shop app

[prime orbit]

Idk who Simon is 😭

[tawdry tree]

Wow, you’re right.

[tawdry tree]

Wootility developer.

He’s the guy.

[prime orbit]

Ah ok

Welp

[tawdry tree]

Bro since when is the friction pad released?

[prime orbit]

Geon raws gettin replaced alr

[tawdry tree]

No announcement nothing 🤣

[prime orbit]

To be fair I just saw it today after I woke up

It was added 14 hrs ago according to shop app

[tawdry tree]

Woot really needs to add a search button in their store

friction pad is literally the last product

[prime orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/interesting-batman-very-interesting-thinking-gif-16421084

[tawdry tree]

gotta scroll down all the way. I hope they change that

[prime orbit]

they did release a sound test vid tbf

[tawdry tree]

yeah

that wasn’t a release video right?

[polar girder]

Yeah I’m tempted by TTC KoM NGL

[tawdry tree]

I wouldn’t get KoMs, too risky imo. V1 vs V2 is quite the difference and you can’t tell which ones you’re gonna get unless you ask the store specifically

[still abyss]

is it really necessary to unscrew the keyboard for putting new switches

[tawdry tree]

No

[still abyss]

kk

[tawdry tree]

You don’t need to unscrew anything.

It can be easier though.

[cyan lark]

It's not necessary, but it can be easier overall depending on how many you're replacing and your tools.

[still abyss]

i know for a fact i’m gonna somehow explode the keyboard or every screw will magically disappear

[tropic urchin]

I’d only consider it if you’re having trouble pulling switches normally

[still abyss]

i’m gonna be replacing all the keys on my two he

[tropic urchin]

It can be a big help to unscrew it down that way

[cyan lark]

For that many I might recommend it, but totally up to you.

Being able to access them and apply some upward pressure from the back can really speed it up.

[tropic urchin]

Make sure you have some bowls available to put them in so that way you can track and organize it 🙂

[still abyss]

i guess i’ll give it a try

[tawdry tree]

Definitely don’t unscrew anything.

[tawdry tree]

No.

[still abyss]

i’m getting very mixed opinions here

[tawdry tree]

Only for the 60HE or 80HE.

Not the freaking Two HE man

[still abyss]

ohh

[tawdry tree]

You have a switch puller right?

[still abyss]

yeah

it’s just my first time ever doing this to a keyboard so i don’t wanna mess anything up

[tawdry tree]

Then you’re fine. Just pull them normally without unscrewing anything.

[tawdry tree]

I understand, it’s alright.

The Two HE’s screws go right into the plastic so I wouldn’t ever suggest to unscrew it.

[cyan lark]

You'll always get differing opinions 🙂

[tawdry tree]

There have been quite a few people who unscrewed it and then stripped the screwhole.

[polar girder]

Oh what. Really?

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, the first batch had a hole in the bottom housing for some reason

The V2s, POMs and RGBs don’t have that hole though

[silver grove]

anybody know if the pangea mini will be compatible with venom 60?

[still abyss]

this is so infuriating i can easily take the switch off but they don’t click in

[vapid oracle]

Anyone got a link for a clone pair of optimum key caps? I don’t want to wait till February to get them. I was curious if anyone knew anything in particular.

[tawdry tree]

Hmm, you have them in the correct orientation right?

[tawdry tree]

Pangea Mini?

[prime orbit]

Wait so what are the best again?

[still abyss]

nevermind i was pressing it too gently 🤦‍♂️

[tawdry tree]

Could check AliExpress for some grey gradient keycaps.

[silver grove]

case thats coming out

[tawdry tree]

They are in terms of performance. The hole in the bottom just causes a different sound compared to the ones without the hole.

[tawdry tree]

GH60?

[prime orbit]

Does the type matter tho

should i get v2

or

[tawdry tree]

I prefer the sound of V2s over V1s

but it’s difficult to get V2s for sure as they are just listed as KoMs

[vapid oracle]

Anything on Amazon?

[tawdry tree]

Not sure

search grey gradient keycaps on amazon

maybe they have some

[silver grove]

not sure https://bowlkeyboards.com/pages/pangea-mini-landing-page

geon said it could be compatible

[tawdry tree]

Maybe it is, I know the Venom comes with a daughter board as well but really not sure if mounting is compatible.

[prime orbit]

https://www.ipopularshop.com/products/ttc-king-of-magnetic-switch?variant=43951876833430

this?

[tawdry tree]

“could” isn’t really helpful 😅

[tawdry tree]

that’s KoM. If you’re gonna get V1s or V2s is anyones guess unless you ask the store

[prime orbit]

ohhh

and v2s are better

[tawdry tree]

If you don’t really care for sound it doesn’t matter.

[tawdry tree]

I prefer the sound, but maybe you’ll like it.

[prime orbit]

i dont i just want performance

[tawdry tree]

It’s just the sound that is different

Could get KoM RGBs as well if you like RGB.

[prime orbit]

nah

L rgb

[tawdry tree]

😂😂

[prime orbit]

why are v2s so hard to find?

[tawdry tree]

Not hard to find but it’s just that you can’t verify if a store sells V1s or V2s

but again, if you don’t care for sound it really doesn’t matter. Performance is the same.

All KoM versions offer the best performance.

[night atlas]

@ionic breach may i dm you regarding the analog monitor

[prime orbit]

ah ok

[ionic breach]

sure

[prime orbit]

oh wait im dumb LMAO i thought these were 3 diff switches

the kom has v1 and v2

lkao

[tawdry tree]

V1 and V2 are both called KoM. I call them V1 and V2 because the first version is different from the later versions.

If that makes sense.

[prime orbit]

no yeah

ill just ask the stores which one

id rather have v2

cuz higher number mean better

[tawdry tree]

😂😂😂😂😂

truee

[prime orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-peter-griffin-yapping-yap-yapping-pretentious-gif-9955324965341694991

[hybrid cairn]

wdym v1 or v2s? is there a v1 and v2 of the rgb ver?

[tawdry tree]

No. Just of the regular KoMs

[tawdry tree]

^

[hybrid cairn]

sweet, tyyy, i bought the rgb ones and the springs you sent me from AE btw, ty for the recommendation :D

[tawdry tree]

Np!

[shy mantle]

Yo guys, i am new to modding or any such stuff, so need some help:) I've got my 60he+ recently, already installed Jade MAX and waiting for Redux 60 to come into stock. I already added PC plate to my basket but i dont know what to do with stabs. On reddit i've sen i need Long Pole TX AP for jades, but they are only 1.2mm and i seen 1.6mm is necessary, which one should i go for?

[hybrid cairn]

jade maxes notoriously feel not so great js so you know unless youre fine with that

[stone flax]

pangea so hot

[hybrid cairn]

oh ma goodness youre red now

[shy mantle]

Already got them installed, so gonna kepp them till i realize i want to change something, just not sure about stabs rn

[stone flax]

i was blue

:<

now i red

[hybrid cairn]

honestly if the stabs are workin fine for ya then you dont need to change em, js lube and tune em right

[stone flax]

tx ap screw ins can have compatibility issues

stock wooting uses gateron screw ins

[shy mantle]

and about mount type, which one is the most optimal in my case

[stone flax]

just tune them

[hybrid cairn]

u should go back to blu frfr

[stone flax]

tune ur stock stabs

[stone flax]

you lose role when u leave server

[hybrid cairn]

awwww whyd u leave server

[shy mantle]

As i said new af to all the modding stuff, tune means?

PCB ones=getting wobble so better to mod stock screw in ones?

[stone flax]

i do it constantly

[hybrid cairn]

why?

[stone flax]

do you have a wooting 60he+

[shy mantle]

yep

[stone flax]

reasons

[hybrid cairn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN_-GYLTfpY
watch this

[hybrid cairn]

whut reasons

[shy mantle]

Just lube stock stabs?

[stone flax]

okay so basically you dont need to subscribe to the idea that the stock stabs are bad and need replacing for newer ones, stabs are stabs and once they're tuned and do their job its all the same thing

[hybrid cairn]

lube and tune em, yep

[stone flax]

just lube and grease and potentially wire balance

all you need

[shy mantle]

since i am kinda noob, is wire balance gonna be hard?

[stone flax]

it could be

its more so time consuming than anything

and the malleability of a wire plays into factor

on getting it just right

your wires dont need to be perfectly straight

[hybrid cairn]

mainly time consuming, its mechanically not difficult though

[stone flax]

just enough so that grease can make it so its tick-free

if you already dont have ticking then ur stabs wont even need em

just add grease to wire ends

[shy mantle]

havent lubed maxes yet too, but ckinda enjoy the fact they feel harder rn

[stone flax]

:<

[hybrid cairn]

damn bro likes the struggle

[shy mantle]

haha

[hybrid cairn]

masochistic type frfr

[shy mantle]

prob

it feels better for typing personally

[north locust]

i try to disamble the wooting for add some foam and one a screw was rounded and I can't unscrew it:(

[shy mantle]

but worse for gaming

[hybrid cairn]

to eeach their own ig

[hybrid cairn]

can u send photo?

[shy mantle]

And what about the mount? whats oprimal? all of my research is 50/50 as fuck

burger mounts, stock foam with tofu 60

[north locust]

i can try to

[hybrid cairn]

its mainly preference, try out easier "mounts" and see if u like em first, if not then you can try others or combine a few, js prefrence mainly

[shy mantle]

PC plate is fine, right?

i dont have to go for carbon or whatever

[hybrid cairn]

if you like that feel and sound then yeah

[shy mantle]

i have no fcking idea tbh xD

havent tried anything yet

just changed switches tday

[hybrid cairn]

when u use keyboard do you like how it feels?

if so then your plate is fine

[shy mantle]

i would like to get less wobble

[hybrid cairn]

that comes from the switches

[shy mantle]

in general it feels fine

[vapid oracle]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D5H92P36?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[shy mantle]

but it feels better then stock switches

[vapid oracle]

Are these compatible with the wooting x optimum 60He+?

[shy mantle]

than*

[hybrid cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/gameundt-fallout-maximus-outerops-gif-4067651569052406982

[hybrid cairn]

fair enough, honestly if you want less wobble the only way ur gna get it is with a diff switch

[hybrid cairn]

or filming but thats a giant waste of time imo and idk if u can do that with he switches

[shy mantle]

i'll just use this ones for now i guess so

what are practically the best switches at the market if we dont talk about price?

[hybrid cairn]

if yoou apply some light preassure with a screw driver thats the right size then it should come out fine

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-flash-cat-betterttv-gif-10690574645280585754

[shy mantle]

holy that looks unlucky

[tawdry tree]

You can try a bit of tape on the screw

[north locust]

the other ones unscrew good but that ine no

[hybrid cairn]

TTC KOM in POM or RGB has the least wobble but sounds super loud and clacky, geon raws and jade pros have a great balance of sound and little wobble

[north locust]

:(

[shy mantle]

i had same shit when my new motherboard arrived and i fcking couldnt remove ssd cooling

[tawdry tree]

press hard and turn. if you feel it slipping again, well..

[shy mantle]

FUCK

thats the reddit moment

i had a choice between pro's and max's and reddit looked like max is the best option

[polar girder]

Lolz

[hybrid cairn]

sadge

[north locust]

aaaaaa

[tawdry tree]

bro trusted reddit o7

[hybrid cairn]

o7

[tawdry tree]

do you have tape?

[shy mantle]

i guess u should try hand screwer

more pressure and balanced rotation speed

[north locust]

like which one

[shy mantle]

worked for me

[shy mantle]

bully

[polar girder]

This some gasket mount type shit or what

Pretty

[hybrid cairn]

get a piece of thin rubber like a rubber band, stuff it inside there, press down with ur screw, and unscrew, see if that works

[tawdry tree]

painters if you have it

[tawdry tree]

this could work as well

and press harder than you were in the vid

[shy mantle]

why is it 26 euros in EU

[hybrid cairn]

yeah you need a good bit of force and torque

itd be better to use a non automatic screwdriver for this case imo if you have the strength

[north locust]

i only have these two

[silver grove]

thats why i wanna know if its compatible

[tawdry tree]

Yes, but shine-through legends on the side will be a lot less bright on a 60HE than in the picture.

[hybrid cairn]

do you have a rubber band? if not you can stick the stickier side of one of those taps together so it becomes smooth side out on both ends a few times over and try that instead

[stone flax]

to a wooting?

automatic no lol

center jst

[tawdry tree]

not sure what the bottom one is but try it, a thin piece over the screw

[tawdry tree]

venom

[stone flax]

oh

hmm

mayb

id need to look at it closer

[tawdry tree]

yeah not sure either

[silver grove]

ye thats what i am saying i guess as long as you get the right plate and maybe a jst cable for the daughterboard you should be fine but i am not into the whole custom keyboard thing to know if thats right

[silver grove]

no venom 60

[stone flax]

plate already makes me feel sussy

[hybrid cairn]

we dunno but you could buy it and see if it works, then if not js send them back

[stone flax]

just a tad

[silver grove]

i mean the only thing needed would be the right plate to keep the switches on the pcb

[hybrid cairn]

damn whys it staring at me like that

[silver grove]

no way you can send a group buy back

[stone flax]

no pics of the back

tf

yea im too cooked to look into this rn

[hybrid cairn]

oh was it a group buy? myb i didnt look at it lmao

hm

you could sell it aftermarket if it doesnt work out tho no?

[tawdry tree]

you’d want a plate that screws onto the pcb with standoffs

[silver grove]

i think so gb should start somewhere in january and 6-8 months till delivery

[silver grove]

dont think there is that much of a market for this kinda niche stuff in germany

[north locust]

this dont work

[tawdry tree]

switches alone can keep the PCB up but combined with PCB mounted stabs is a no go.

[tawdry tree]

😕

r u pressing hard?

[silver grove]

i guess geon would be making those since he has special plates

[hybrid cairn]

you could list it for international shipping but make the buyer pay for shipping if theyre out of your country

[tawdry tree]

if you get a plate like that, I don’t see why it wouldn’t be compatible

[silver grove]

screw ins🫡

[silver grove]

yea thats what i am thinking aswell but no way geon is making that many plates for different cases

[tawdry tree]

did geon and who ever makes that case release the plate files?

could have your own made for sure

it’s a sick case so would be worth imo

[north locust]

idk what im doing

[tawdry tree]

that’s good, press reasonable hard and turn slowly

[hybrid cairn]

do this, but with the tape if u dont have rubber

[tawdry tree]

one more time

[hybrid cairn]

this too^ press harder than you think you should

[silver grove]

i think he has files for his plates not 100% sure and where would i get a custom made one

[north locust]

what is that

[hybrid cairn]

that is a rubber band and a screw driver

on top of a screw with the same issue as urs

[north locust]

its a small hole i cant put that :(

[tawdry tree]

any cnc/laser cutting service near you would be able to make plates.

[hybrid cairn]

i mean use thhe rubber band method not an actual large screwdriver lmao

[silver grove]

might be worth a shot🤔

[hybrid cairn]

pcbway also works

[tawdry tree]

you need the plate files for that though, if they’re public

[silver grove]

i asked in geons dc where we could be getting plates from

[tawdry tree]

jlcpcb too

[silver grove]

noted thanks

[pallid falcon]

quick question. My optimum case came in and has a tab where the usb c plug goes. Do I pull it off?

[silver grove]

geons should be public dont know about pangea tho

[tawdry tree]

No!

It’s conductive foam to ground your 60HE

[hybrid cairn]

please refrain from breaking the port thhank you

[pallid falcon]

thanks lol just checking

[pallid falcon]

thank you

[tawdry tree]

reminds me of that samsung fold screenprotector issue 😂😂

[north locust]

i think it get worse

[hybrid cairn]

oh my goodness i forgot about that lmaoooooo

[hybrid cairn]

did you use tthe rubber band'

[tawdry tree]

do you have other screwdriver (or screwdriver bits)?

[hybrid cairn]

or one that fits better at the very least, and a rubber band lmao

[north locust]

i try the tape cause i dont have a rubber band

i have one but its big

[hybrid cairn]

wdym by big?

[steep flint]

hi do i need to buy the 300 optimus complete set for get all the keyboard or i can just buy the 150 one?

[tawdry tree]

woot needs to get rid of the phillips screws and just go hex.

[tawdry tree]

could work

[north locust]

like the hole its small and the rubber band is big and i cant put inside it

[hybrid cairn]

its rubber so you should js be able to press down on it harder and itll stretch to fit

[tawdry tree]

150 one being just the case?

[flat cobalt]

Yeah I think this works with big screws not small ones

[tawdry tree]

true as well

[steep flint]

so i need to buy the 300 set

[polar girder]

Yeah I just drill failed screws out

Drill the screw head off then pop the whole thing apart

[tawdry tree]

if you don’t have a 60HE Module, then yeah

[hybrid cairn]

it should work with any screw, the rubber fills in the broken place and puts preassure and friction on it allowing you to remove the thing

[polar girder]

I haven’t had luck with the rubber band gimmick or other stuff

[steep flint]

oh okay

[hybrid cairn]

that might dmg the board tho

[steep flint]

and if i buy the wotings 60he will i get the snap tap?

[polar girder]

lol I’m not drilling the PCB

[tawdry tree]

yeah but that’s the last last resort

[flat cobalt]

Rubber is thick, it’s not gonna work all the time unless they find an extremely thin rubber band, but then they risk ripping through it

[polar girder]

But yeah whatever

[tawdry tree]

yessir

[north locust]

why they dont use the _ ones no +

[hybrid cairn]

idk band thing works for me, i only need to use the drill thing when its not something fragile and all of the thing is broken

[north locust]

:(

[steep flint]

ok thx el bogosito

[tawdry tree]

_ are also dogshit

hex or torx superiority

[hybrid cairn]

you can thin out a rubber band using a hair dryer or js outright stretching the thing

[flat cobalt]

You could try putting 1 tiny square of duck tape over the screw, same as the rubber band method

[north locust]

or the ones that use this allen

[flat cobalt]

Or use super glue on the tip of your screwdriver just a tiny bit

[flat cobalt]

Then hopefully your advice works

[north locust]

i can try that

[hybrid cairn]

that requires you to hold the thing perfectly straight till it dries tho unless u got the quick dry stuff

[flat cobalt]

Try the tape first

[hybrid cairn]

super glue is a giga pain to get off so its the last resort

[flat cobalt]

There’s 3 methods here hopefully one works lol

[flat cobalt]

This as well

[tawdry tree]

yeah that’s tricky

[hybrid cairn]

yeah honestly how that screw keeps breaking is beyond me, its the first time ive seen a woot screw collapse like this lol

[tawdry tree]

@north locust you really don’t have any other screwdriver with a bigger bit?

[hybrid cairn]

its like its made of sand

[stone flax]

someone stripped screw?

[hybrid cairn]

ye

[tawdry tree]

weekly occurrence tbf

[hybrid cairn]

this is the first time ive seen this lmao

perhaps im not in here enough

[tawdry tree]

bro

[hybrid cairn]

ok try the one thats fractionally bigger than the one u have now like you got the whole arsenal and usin none of it

[tawdry tree]

oh he’s using the biggest phillips?

[hybrid cairn]

i cant tell honestly

[tawdry tree]

yeah

they aren’t exactly sorted

[hybrid cairn]

or they arent in any way that makes sense to us

all the numbers and symbols being upsidedown also doesnt help with understanding

[north locust]

i have one bigger

[hybrid cairn]

try that

[tawdry tree]

try that

[hybrid cairn]

jinx, we share a braincell now

[tawdry tree]

press hard and if you feel it slipping, stop

[north locust]

its the same

[tawdry tree]

😩

[hybrid cairn]

r u b b e r b a n d

[hybrid cairn]

a y o

[tawdry tree]

man

[hybrid cairn]

mann

[north locust]

this is a rubber band? xd

[tawdry tree]

💀💀

[north locust]

ita rubber

[tawdry tree]

too thick

[hybrid cairn]

use a hair dryer till it melts a bit then press down and hold till it cools to make thinner

[north locust]

its not band

[tawdry tree]

lmfao

[hybrid cairn]

its works tho

heat gun better tho

[north locust]

and if i put in the mirowave?

[tawdry tree]

LMFAOOO

how did we end up here man

[hybrid cairn]

entire thing might turn into jelly and youd get toxic fumes in ur microwave but hey sure why not

[north locust]

how many seconds

[hybrid cairn]

ok so

here the idea

we get something heavy that doesnt melt on top of the band

actually wait no

ok

[tawdry tree]

I don’t think it’d even melt tbh

[hybrid cairn]

so

melt band

for like

30 seconds

use POwer: 7 on the thing

[stone flax]

just pray

[hybrid cairn]

or Power: 5 to be safe

[stone flax]

atp

[tawdry tree]

😂😂😂

[hybrid cairn]

then after get a weight on top and quish it then js leave it there

[north locust]

i only have w options

[hybrid cairn]

and put like

[north locust]

800w?

[hybrid cairn]

food paper under it so it doesntt stick

[tawdry tree]

try

[hybrid cairn]

food paper and like cooking spray lmao

so it doesnt stick to the microwave

[tawdry tree]

this is insane ngl

[hybrid cairn]

then then after get another food paper with cooking spray to sandwhich it

[tawdry tree]

but hey, there’s a chance

[hybrid cairn]

asd put wierhgt on top till it cools

[hybrid cairn]

if it isnt borderline insane yyou arent trying hard enough frfr

[tawdry tree]

HAHAHAHA

[hybrid cairn]

that looks like it has no cooking paper with oil/spray on it

its gna stick to the damn plate bro

[north locust]

bro

my microwave dont work

[hybrid cairn]

are you an adult there no way they didnt teeach you this stuff

[hybrid cairn]

more time in the heat wave, but use the cooking paper and spray damnit

[tawdry tree]

im dead

[hybrid cairn]

currently dying lmao

[hybrid cairn]

IT DINGS AHAHAHAHAHA

[tawdry tree]

wtf

[hybrid cairn]

you live in a cartoon lmao what even is that

[north locust]

u broke my microwave man

[hybrid cairn]

u shoulda used cooking paper and spray bro that aint my fault

[tawdry tree]

microwave lost to rubberband gg

[hybrid cairn]

rubberband: 1 microwave: 0

[north locust]

:(

[tawdry tree]

no way it actually died tho

[hybrid cairn]

this needs to go into a series of unfortunate events book

[tawdry tree]

fr

[north locust]

i think imma use the glue one

[hybrid cairn]

did it actually break thats so funny

[north locust]

its not

[hybrid cairn]

alr, js make sure, perfectly straight until it dries, and its gna be a huge pain to get off

like an unreasonable amount of effort will be required

[north locust]

okey

[hybrid cairn]

imma put this down as one of the top 10 funniest discord interactions ive ever had

[tawdry tree]

put the glue on the tip of the screwdriver, not in the screw

[hybrid cairn]

i might actually die of laughter if the glue thing fails

[hybrid cairn]

AHAHAHAHAHHAAH

[north locust]

i do wrong?

[hybrid cairn]

its too late lmaoooooo

[tawdry tree]

good

[north locust]

bro

oh okey

[tawdry tree]

would be funny af if u cant get the screwdriver off

[hybrid cairn]

as long as the glue didnt spill over and touch things besides the screw ur good

if not

ur screwed bu dum tsssss

[tawdry tree]

💀💀💀💀

[hybrid cairn]

im so funny

frfr

[north locust]

how many time i need to wait?

[hybrid cairn]

until it dries

[tawdry tree]

minute

[tawdry tree]

how to know when its dry sir?

[flat cobalt]

Personally I bought my own screws and swapped out the Wooting stock ones

[tawdry tree]

that’s if you can get then out in the first place

😂😂

[hybrid cairn]

lick it

[hybrid cairn]

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHASHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHASHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHASHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHASHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHASHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHASHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHASHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHASHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHASHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHASHAH

I CANT

[tawdry tree]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[hybrid cairn]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[north locust]

can i drill it?

[hybrid cairn]

if you wna break the board then sure

[tawdry tree]

nuclear weapons

bro how the fuck is that screw in so tight

wtf

[north locust]

i think that wooting put glue in that screw or smthing

[tawdry tree]

yeah prob

so it’s more secure

[hybrid cairn]

lmao nah this is a skill issue

[tawdry tree]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/994084114930081842/1064258153522417664/plink.gif

[north locust]

im not gonna try more

can i send it and they unscrew it?

[hybrid cairn]

bros gna pay like 50 usd for shipping to remove a screw

[tawdry tree]

try one more time with a flat head

the biggest flat head bit you have

[hybrid cairn]

go buy a rubber band

[tawdry tree]

you can’t let a screw defeat you bro

[stone flax]

pray bro

[hybrid cairn]

yknow what at this point js get a new keyboard

[stone flax]

ask the screw nicely

[hybrid cairn]

chiara: 0 screw: 3

[tawdry tree]

😭😭

[hybrid cairn]

bribe the screw with the good stuff

[north locust]

i think its to big

it have glue

[hybrid cairn]

pause

[tawdry tree]

OKAY TRY ONE SMALLER

[hybrid cairn]

damn bro is rough with it

without consent

[stone flax]

lube

[tawdry tree]

it has to fit in the hole

[hybrid cairn]

also use a smaller one

[hybrid cairn]

that is kinda the point yeah

[tawdry tree]

omg

[hybrid cairn]

l m a o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kqbKEqzsAI

this situation reminds of this video

[north locust]

i cant put nothing cause it have glur

glue

[hybrid cairn]

this is why we said it would be the last resort

[north locust]

WAIT

I THINK I HAVE IT

[tawdry tree]

pls

🙏🙏🙏

[hybrid cairn]

what do u have

besides skill issue

and no rubber bands

[tawdry tree]

😂😂😂

[north locust]

it definitely have glue or smthing

[hybrid cairn]

...............

[hybrid cairn]

stop recording and use two hands with proper preassure and torque what are you doing

[tawdry tree]

bro what the fuck

[hybrid cairn]

this guy is like those people that record someone dying instead of helping them

[tawdry tree]

that screw been through some shit

[hybrid cairn]

it has been violated in ways never seen before

[tawdry tree]

also why do all your vids start as a flashbang?

[hybrid cairn]

probably exposure issues cause bros room is not properly lighted

[tawdry tree]

never saw it on phones before

[hybrid cairn]

prob js whips out the phone from the dark and starts insta recording instead of giving it time to adjust

[tawdry tree]

i hope his next message is gonna be good

[hybrid cairn]

you you strat recording in the dark / face down then put it towards light itll do that

[hybrid cairn]

next message is gna be another fail and/or him violating the screw with one hand again

[tawdry tree]

he’ll get it, surely

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/476873494320119820/1262509451961962588/Aware.gif

[hybrid cairn]

hopefully

he needs the lord on his side frfr

[tawdry tree]

woot genuinely needs to fix this shit tho

this happens to someone every month

at least twice

[north locust]

ima go to sleep

[hybrid cairn]

this is the first time ive seen it happen but if so thats kinda rough

[tawdry tree]

😭

[hybrid cairn]

💀 💀 💀 💀

[tawdry tree]

yeah many people here

[tawdry tree]

gg bro, tomorrow a new day

[hybrid cairn]

in the morning either drop the thing off at the keyboard shop or buy a rubber band oml

[tawdry tree]

could send it back to woot as well

but it’s gonna take while

[hybrid cairn]

thats so much in shipping though

[tawdry tree]

yeah

[north locust]

maybe ima buy a case

and broke that case to open it

[hybrid cairn]

if he had that much money his microwave would be working

[hybrid cairn]

bros gna drop 100 cause he skill issued a screw

[north locust]

holy60 or tofu?

[hybrid cairn]

i have a black tofu spare if ur interested and in the US

[north locust]

how much

[hybrid cairn]

less than whatever you can buy it for, ill adjust the price depending on how much itd cost you if you bought one from kbdfans

its brand new, with the brass weight, and a plate, all still in their boxes with wrapping

[hybrid cairn]

HAHAHAHAA

tofu60 redux lmao

[north locust]

u mean us layout or ur in us?

[hybrid cairn]

as in you are within the united states, preferably in cali cause shipping is way cheaper that way

[north locust]

oh

im not :(

[tawdry tree]

blank has a spare tofu he’s willing to sell to u if ur from the us

[tawdry tree]

rip

[hybrid cairn]

da frick is spreadsheet tofu

[tawdry tree]

wtf

[hybrid cairn]

unfortunate, shipping overseas with this thing is hundreds of usd

[north locust]

:(

[hybrid cairn]

ahhh spare lmaooooo

[tawdry tree]

idiot autocorrect

[hybrid cairn]

thats one hell of a typo

[hybrid cairn]

unfortunate, gl on your case search

imma sell this thing one day lmao

[flat cobalt]

Got my 80he plate

[hybrid cairn]

damnnn lookin good, hopefully it works well

i hope they come out with some non 3rd party ones soon

[tropic urchin]

thats sexy

[tawdry tree]

get a 60he and build it

then sell

easier in my experience

[tawdry tree]

plate mounts tho 🤮

fine if you use stock stabs or SW Knights

[hybrid cairn]

i very simply do not wna do allat

[tropic urchin]

Gotta wait til new year for my new plates 😭

[hybrid cairn]

why not TX APs

[tawdry tree]

fair

[tawdry tree]

don’t fit through those holes well, especially for FR4 which is pretty stiff

[hybrid cairn]

gotcha, good to know

[hybrid cairn]

use the chiara method and js force them in frfr

[tawdry tree]

😂

cook them in the microwave first tho

[hybrid cairn]

the micrrowave breaking is mandatory during this process

[tawdry tree]

✅✅✅

[flat cobalt]

I didn’t realize I couldn’t use screw in

[tawdry tree]

you can, just not all

SW Knights and stock work fine

[flat cobalt]

Oh ok good good hopefully the staebies fit

[tawdry tree]

they’re slim enough

[tawdry tree]

definitely not

lol

[flat cobalt]

[tawdry tree]

staebies are fat as fuck and so very tight

so they won’t

[hybrid cairn]

pause

[tawdry tree]

fuck man

[flat cobalt]

I don’t want that ugly ass white stock plate though

[hybrid cairn]

ehehehehehehe

[hybrid cairn]

why is bro hatin against the white plate

[flat cobalt]

I’d be able to see the white in between the keys

[tawdry tree]

sand away brother and breathe in all that glass dust

good for your lungs

[hybrid cairn]

also js like color over the white part of the plat with some black paint if you want lmao

[flat cobalt]

I’ll just stick with the Fr4 and stock stabilizers but I’ll swap out the wires to the staebies ones

[hybrid cairn]

im breathing in
the glass and dust
i wipe my brow and i sweat my rust
something something radioactive idk

[hybrid cairn]

o k

[flat cobalt]

I’m so ready for the Cosmos now

[hybrid cairn]

whuts that

[flat cobalt]

https://cannonkeys.com/products/gmk-cosmos?

[tawdry tree]

kinda a pain to swap wires no?

[flat cobalt]

I haven’t had any problems so far thankfully

[hybrid cairn]

ooooh is the dusty caps from beforeeeee

[cyan lark]

I regret not getting in on that Cosmos preorder 😢

[polar girder]

Yeah I had to just to make sure I wouldn’t have regrets lol

[cyan lark]

Well if you feel like you're gonna regret not having regrets I'll take them off of you.

I didn't pull the trigger cause I wanted the legends to be just a little more visible. I dunno, hard to tell from the photos just how faint they are.

If it was, say, gold or white or any number of other colors on black + the speckle I would have been all over it.

[flat cobalt]

This is a real sample here

[cyan lark]

Hm, maybe I made the right choice. I dunno, just not a huge fan of effectively blank caps. I'll be big and admit that I need to glance down for numbers and special chars on occasion.

[stone flax]

just put the blanks in the bag bro

[fallen pecan]

Cheap alternative

[quick beacon]

god damn

[stone flax]

aifei aifei aifei

[heavy gazelle]

hi! im new with keyboard modding i just wanted to ask if you guys have any suggestions on how to make the wooting 60he+ sound creamy, tried searching here and i saw that creamy is not a sound profile so i’ll try to explain it better, it sounds a bit muted and lower-pitched (?) they sound smooth, like there’s no resistance to them when you slowly press on the key and listen in (i hope that makes sense)

[stone flax]

not gonna happen

sry

[flat cobalt]

Actually if you put a bunch of lube on the switches

[stone flax]

actually you put creamcheese in the keyboard

[cyan lark]

Way less subtle but I’m interested. Got a link?

[stone flax]

aifei

[fallen pecan]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_oEdPpIP

or you can search 'black glitter keycaps' and look for the wolf esc key

[cyan lark]

Thanks m’dude

[tame tusk]

Is the friction fit pad compatible with just the normal 60HE not the plus?

[feral adder]

if im doing holee mod should i use kyrtox 205g0 instead of grease

[stone flax]

why are you doing holee

[feral adder]

reduce rattle and smoother keypress

[stone flax]

?

thats what grease is for

holee, plumbers, bandaid mod

all cope

[feral adder]

why do u think that

im not doubting u just interested

before and after videos show a good difference

[tawdry tree]

which stabs are you using even?

[feral adder]

TX stabs

[tawdry tree]

you should use just 205

no holee

no nothing

just 205

[feral adder]

why 205 instead of grease

[tawdry tree]

because APs are quite tight so they don’t benefit from grease

just makes them feel sluggish

[feral adder]

and why not holee

• 205

[tawdry tree]

holee was a fix for bad stabs

terrible stabs*

which APs are not

they aren’t loose.

[agile grove]

if you really wanna use grease only use a small amount. thats what I did and it ended up fine. don’t have a ton of experience with TX AP stabs tho.

[crystal pagoda]

because they are to be honest

[crystal pagoda]

ok yeah definitely dont

tx is alr tight

ur literally not gonna be able to use em properly if u do

[tawdry tree]

it can be fine but I wouldn’t recommend it

[crystal pagoda]

i never used grease for tx

then again tx is buns nowadays

[tawdry tree]

it’s a fine line between sluggish and okay

[crystal pagoda]

this

also

tx stems are also a little taller than cherry spec

[cyan lark]

Are you talking about greasing/not greasing the wire for APs, or lubing the stem?

[crystal pagoda]

always leaves my switches feeling lackluster

[agile grove]

I agree

[cyan lark]

I greased the wires on both mine and they aren't sluggish at all 🤷

[feral adder]

stem

[crystal pagoda]

wait

[tawdry tree]

oh lol

[crystal pagoda]

are u planning to use ap tx screw ins? @feral adder

[cyan lark]

Oh, yeah stem I left alone I think

[agile grove]

depends on how much you use. I think they’re just easier to overlube.

[cyan lark]

I put in a pretty decent amount w/out issue.

[feral adder]

yes i think so

[crystal pagoda]

?

did u buy em alr or

[feral adder]

no

[tawdry tree]

Stems of any stabs aren’t lubed with grease, only the wire on some.

[crystal pagoda]

cuz just dont lol

yeah why are u even considering tx

[feral adder]

cuz just dont

[crystal pagoda]

?

[feral adder]

nvm

[crystal pagoda]

like genuinely

[feral adder]

what stabs should i get then

instead of tx

[crystal pagoda]

whats wrong with ur current ones

?

[tawdry tree]

Stock

[feral adder]

im building a new keyboard

[crystal pagoda]

you dont have stabs?

the module comes with stabilizers

.....

[feral adder]

but tx are better than stock

[crystal pagoda]

?

?

?

[feral adder]

no?

[agile grove]

theyre not

[tawdry tree]

haha

[feral adder]

really?

[tawdry tree]

better stabs are easier to tune.

that’s it

[agile grove]

exactly the same if you lube and tune them

[tawdry tree]

after tuning is done they aren’t better

[crystal pagoda]

even ignoring the fact that stabs arent inherently better than the rest (given you tune them properly which youll HAVE to do for both stock stabs and tx [so why buy new ones if ur gonna do work anyways]), tx ap screwins stabs literally have reported issues with plate tolerances making them an even worse consideration for purchase

so i ask again

why man?

[feral adder]

because i didnt know sorry

[tawdry tree]

it’s alright bro

[cyan lark]

You don't have to apologize. Don't get bullied by keyboard enthusiasts 🙂

[crystal pagoda]

?

no ones bullying anyone

[tawdry tree]

some people just want different stabs, for the sake of it.

nothing wrong with that either.

[feral adder]

also by tuning u mean doing what specifically

[crystal pagoda]

lube on plastic contact, lube/grease on wire contact, wire balancing if need be

[tawdry tree]

https://youtu.be/xlSIIZqyQR0

[crystal pagoda]

you dont need holee

holee actually ends up worse in the long run as the bandaids wear down over time and ur left with a mushy gunky mess

[crystal pagoda]

further tuning with 205g0 in stem hole if need be

[feral adder]

okay thanks 👍

[cyan lark]

I haven't tried holee but that does seem likely in the long term

[gusty void]

Cant wait for the Owl lab case fr

[cyan lark]

Mashing some fabric around inside a stem seems like a bad idea

[tawdry tree]

You can take the stock ones apart, wipe the lube off, check if the wire is balanced (if not, balance it) relube and install.

[crystal pagoda]

it popularized around the time of pandemic and people wanted good sounding stabs but didnt want to bother learning to wire balance

so yeah

worst thing is it doesnt even solve ticking if the wires too bent

could even worsen it

[feral adder]

u guys seem to know alot. is getting a gummy o ring worth it

or just placebo

[agile grove]

I mean it’s only a few bucks

it doesn’t work too well with screw in stabs tho

[feral adder]

why

[agile grove]

there isn’t enough room for the o-ring near backspace

and there can be some issues near the space bar too

wooting is working on a friction pad that allows you to friction mount with screw in stabs

[feral adder]

should i just get it rn and if i have problems just throw it out

its like five bucks

[agile grove]

I think there’s a specific o-ring that works with screw in stabs somewhat

can’t remember which one tho

I think it’s in #🪛│modding_faq

[feral adder]

bakeneko

thats what i was planning on getting

k yea ill try it

[stone flax]

go for small size grave shifts iirc

for screw-ins

hardness of your choosing

[feral adder]

im not sure about hardness so is going in the middle at 45a or 50a good?