🔧│keyboard_modding

[rapid rose]

I see I play apex rather competitively I’m assuming they are still pretty good in regards to performance?

[sacred elm]

Yes

[rapid rose]

Performance matters to me first and foremost. Then I usually I look at acoustics and such.

[rapid rose]

Thank you

Sorry if stupid questions new to keyboard customization.

[flat cobalt]

no stupid questions

[rapid rose]

I usually just buy off the shelf stock of whatever is the fastest and roll with it.

[hybrid cairn]

what do you guys consider to be the best lube for stabs? or just the one you guys use regularly

[glacial wind]

those are 2 completely different questions

[hybrid cairn]

meant to say "for" lmao, misstype

[glacial wind]

that would depend on the stab too

xht-bdz is goated for stab wires, but you only really use it on stabs with enough space for them

all the newer gen stabs run off just 205g0

[hybrid cairn]

that one guy that was in here said all stabs are basically the same and the wooting 80 stock stab will do just as good as any other one i could buy if i lube and tune it right

[glacial wind]

yeah and the lube you'd use would depend on the stab

so stock stabs would be xht-bdz for the wires and 205g0 for the housing, non stock stabs likely just 205g0

[hybrid cairn]

alright tysm!

hawt damn this xht-bdz is expensive

ope nvm i was looking at a 10 gram jar

11 for 3 grams is still on the pricey side but it aint bad

[hybrid cairn]

oh btw what size brushes do u recommend for lubin up this stuff

[glacial wind]

just any small brush is fine. Most keyboard stores sell brushes for $1-2

[hybrid cairn]

krytox seems to sell a 3 pack of size 0 nylon ones for 10 bucks

[hybrid cairn]

ngl i dont think i have a keyboard store in my vicinity

[glacial wind]

i mean anywhere you order lube 100% sells brushes as well

[sullen lotus]

Does anyone have recommendations for custom keycaps for the Wooting 80HE? I’m looking for something unique and was wondering if swapping keycaps changes the keyboard’s sound.

[spice apex]

most keycaps won’t make an audible difference unless you get a tall profile, like SA or MT3

[knotty iron]

I know keychron's keycaps are interesting, especially the ones used on the Q1 HE keyboards

[fallen pecan]

another mod vid i found, this time it's a cf plate swap + gateron stabs: https://streamable.com/hdv9iy

[fluid ravine]

glad we get to see new plate materials

[flat cobalt]

You ordered one?

I got the FR4 plate

[fluid ravine]

i dont have a 80he

[flat cobalt]

ah okok

[fluid ravine]

Still using my 60he

[flat cobalt]

same

But hopefully I'll get my 80 in jan

[fluid ravine]

least i want to do now with my board would be upgrading PCB to + or venom

or try out new plates

POM, PP, and/or ALU

[flat cobalt]

FR4

[fluid ravine]

ima skip on fr4 respectfully

[flat cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/nailong-yellow-dragon-gif-11878184204091418697

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

not saying it's bad or anything but i just want something "noticeably" different in a way

[flat cobalt]

Carbon Fiber

[fluid ravine]

i have cf in my board currently

it's bright yeah was a huge difference comparing to PC

i didnt enjoy PC all that much with raws+gmk caps

[flat cobalt]

same wasn't a fan of PC

[scarlet barn]

Hello, question, does the keyboard still have the rapid trigger/analog features if I use one of these compatible switches? Or does that stem from their own switches?

[fluid ravine]

Yeah all im looking for rn is like the "lively"ness of ALU and some softer sounding plates without having to sound dead like PC, POM or PP

i just rate CF as bright in general lol

[fluid ravine]

RT, RS, Analog features etc all comes from the PCB and software within. So you can choose any of the compatible switches with them having different preference factors in terms of sound and feel while being also functioning the same like all others.

[scarlet barn]

Okay thank you so much I appreciate you. If you dont mind me asking, I’m not quite sure what the headings mean in that sheet? If it isnt too much trouble, would you mind explaining them? If not its totally cool too

[fluid ravine]

Brand meaning what manufacturer the switch was made from
Model, the type/name of the switch that was made
Polarity is the type of magnets being used compatible with certain pcbs
Initial force is the weight to begin pressing down the switch (we use gram force)
Bottom Out Force, the weight to actuate the whole switch in general till it hits the bottom and up
Total travel is the distance of where the switch start to end (top to bottom; 0mm-4mm)
Bottom out magnetic flux, i have no clue 😂
Type, the type of switch it is like linear, tactile, or clicky
Top housing, top housing material:
Bottom housing, bottom housing material:
Stem, stem material:
Compatible with Wooting, self explanatory

Pls correct me anybody if im wrong about smth

[knotty iron]

IMO, I would love to see more webpages of Wooting talking about what magnetic flux exactly is and how it translates to use in keyboards, also for their HE sensors

especially how it varies with distance

shown with diagrams, maybe even switches with different polarities and Gauss

[fluid ravine]

Agreed

Tbh I'm not big on software or anything of the crap about how HE works at all

I'm just here still at base 1 on this topic but still just understanding things in general about it

[knotty iron]

Me neither for software but Wooting actually makes it so damn intuitive and fun to use! I am interested how magnets and the Hall effect works, if you havent seen my profile mood

software for mechanical is pretty boring

for HE its actually really fun to tinker

[hybrid cairn]

i didnt even know they sold new plate materials for the 80

[fallen pecan]

not sure about the shenzhen part cos that's pretty general, but everglide is called jiangwan in china

[fallen pecan]

not officially, these are all third party

[hybrid cairn]

gotcha, i wonder when reputable companies are gna start makin em

[fallen pecan]

kbdfans should have some in the works

[hybrid cairn]

itll be interesting to see the sound improvements/differences between them

[scarlet barn]

Thank you very much sir. Much appreciated

[tender heron]

Switching from Alu Switch Plate to PC Plate, what's your opinion?

[fallen pecan]

dareu's latest HE board, top spec comes with full jade pros + ceramic keycaps, $130 on the top end, dual 8k, 0.02mm rt

[glacial wind]

oh is the flood of 75% oem latest gen about to happen

[fallen pecan]

ye ive seen a few pop up

[glacial wind]

this is totally going to be the same pcb as the drunkdeer 75u thats coming

and probably 5 others lol

[fallen pecan]

also, 'jade' stabs, demagnetized for hall effect boards

$2.75

[glacial wind]

that's weird, what are they saying is the benefit of the jade stabs?

[fallen pecan]

pom tpu blend, softer downstroke + demagnetized wire

and factory lubed

it's not from gateron btw

[glacial wind]

demagnetized wire seems like bizarro nonsense

[fallen pecan]

i rmb rainy75rt having similar marketing to their stock stabs

[glacial wind]

i'd like to see one brand partner with like swagkey and offer knight v2 stock

that would be pretty crazy, although lord knows if they could ever do that because seems they have issues scaling production of those

[fallen pecan]

are the gateron ink v2s actually bad or just meh?

[glacial wind]

and none of the keyboard brands would want to drop their profit by putting in pricy stabs like that

[glacial wind]

just average, like most stock stabs. Was nothing wrong with any of the stock stabs i had recently honestly

[fallen pecan]

cos i see a lot of 80he modders putting those in when plate swapping

alright ill just ignore those then

[glacial wind]

i think that's just a china thing lol

[fallen pecan]

also this nonsense, 0.01rt, 32k scan, ttc koms

[glacial wind]

in korea it's all tx and knight v2 on everything since those are the stabs that are popular here

[fallen pecan]

they somehow managed to do all metal at the 110~120 price point

[glacial wind]

probably very cheap square case design

[fallen pecan]

has weights too

[glacial wind]

the budget war is honestly over already though

with mad60 and mchose or whatever it was that was the other $20 keyboard, no one is going to make any money making budget keyboards now

[fallen pecan]

ye seeing more and more random name all metal HE boards

even Lenovo has one

[glacial wind]

lol

the ttc kom as stock is an interesting thing

i don't know if they're good stock switches to have, because they're so accurate, but the sound isn't for everyone and they have no factory lube

i feel jade pros/raw he are better to have as a 'this is my keyboards stock switch' for most people

[fallen pecan]

they need those to hit 0.01rt or else customers would return en masse

ive seen clips of the madlion boards ghostwalking all over

cos they use switches that are not up to the task

[marble sierra]

Dareu A75HE
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EuYqTrq

Tbh does look kinda clean

[glacial wind]

i'd like to see wooting upgrade to geon raw he level switches but with more tight tolerance magnets and that'd be goated

basically a wooting brand jade pro

[signal ridge]

Does anybody have them?

[fallen pecan]

i imagine there's gonna be a price bump, and a major one at that

[fallen pecan]

no, just released

[glacial wind]

nah wooting doesn't do that

at least they haven't yet

they usually just put that into the keyboard as an upgrade in all future models at same price once they decide to upgrade a part

[fallen pecan]

a jade pro recolor could be possible tho

since gateron does do recolors for diff vendors

[glacial wind]

i don't think they ever want to work with gateron again so i doubt thats on the cards

but i could see a geon raw he recolor with better tolerance magnets

[fallen pecan]

was there drama im not aware of?

[glacial wind]

no real drama but gateron just repeatedly screwed them with poor communication and randomly doing things they didn't want

like at one point gateron randomly changed the lekker molds without telling them and it caused friction issues on some batches of wootings

so they moved away from gateron with lekker v2

[fallen pecan]

lekkers are hejin right

[glacial wind]

yeah

[little glen]

Gateron and bad communication?? Never heard that one before

[fallen pecan]

i forget where geons get made

[glacial wind]

hejin too

which is why feels like updated raw he wooting version could be a thing

[fallen pecan]

ye feels like it

[fallen pecan]

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=862077574676

funny enough, couple of madlion switches are also hejin

and ive seen a couple of bili guys warning to not get hejin cos it was so difficult to get them off the madlion plate

[glacial wind]

it'd be funny if because hejin used the wooting design for some of their switches and it made their other switches also too tight like how lekker v2 are too tight

[tawdry tree]

they make Jade Gaming clones too. I don’t remember if they came in the Mad60 or a different cheap board.

Not sold separately, yet.

[chilly mural]

Good for consumer at least

[fallen pecan]

should be the similar colored one

[chilly mural]

but fuwaa, the flood of cheapo 75

[fallen pecan]

the 24.38 switch

[glacial wind]

i think switch update + deadzone adjustability toggle with a 0 added deadzone starting point would be what I'd like to see for next year of wooting updates at some point

i don't really care much about sub 0.1 setting stuff, but now that wooting is officially going to be adding ttc and raw switches that can handle less deadzone, it'd be neat to play around with it

instead of the default +0.15 or whatever deadzone it has right now

[fallen pecan]

ye setting deadzone would be a nice starting point, the anti wobble is optional as ive seen people who refuse to turn it on

and then gonna see people requesting .01mm actuation points

[glacial wind]

i think venom has a nice middle ground right now where they offer the 0 deadzone option, but don't offer the sub 0.1 options where it's questionable consistency

[fallen pecan]

man knows what he's doing thats for sure

the board i showed earlier, should also be using the same firmware as mchose ace60/68, atm being the best firmware on the market for dual adc

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

[tidal frigate]

Dual ad carry?

[fallen pecan]

adc should be converters

but might mean something else in the marketing🤷‍♂️

[worldly igloo]

Guys should i order black ghost or frost case prob ill use pudding from hyperx black or white or sum like that https://www.amazon.com/dagaladoo-keycaps-Topographic-Percent-Keyboard/dp/B0CH2KSD7J/ref=sr_1_3?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.SUyoTCEfR_rX0ELQt9fCPjI034ZanBivQey1ynhx_Me4Zf5sNv8AyhDJFyRgN901jKgvQJt1-ba7g3kBObTryQaz1_0ll2nyiaBhNobK5ICTSLnvqIQMLxvsOZcBKm7LcDEKWYmF3QxKIH_8EyUGG78xIEwcww-xBL5_3yUG3I1sHFKLrdjOkbt4IoRfwjdLiDg3nXObvxYe8cd1rQ_X5a-D21fOu22EQDTmhBo6YBE.MUnTLUYAayH0qhYdQZ5xYJMk-YdNkn2ZmG4qY3Fcv74&dib_tag=se&keywords=canyon%2Bkeycaps&qid=1733938706&sr=8-3&th=1 😭

[fallen pecan]

which caps do you like more?

[split dagger]

guys what sound better jade pros or geon raw

[fallen pecan]

decide for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKID0ORh1xk

[split dagger]

ooo thanks

I actually cant decide now between the raws and the ttc magneto\

[fallen pecan]

check the prices, it'll make it easier

[split dagger]

you where right...

[sacred elm]

jade pros sound cleaner imo

[split dagger]

also I heard the factory lube on the raw where bad is that true?

[sacred elm]

no

[split dagger]

alr thanks

I cant wait to get some im saving for new keycaps, switches, switch plate

[glacial wind]

So turns out D's theory was right mostly. It's adjustable deadzone @honest nacelle

so it's not a fluke or error in calibration when you put in ttc magnetos and the deadzone suddenly disappears

[honest nacelle]

Whatd I miss

[glacial wind]

it's actually wootings software is goated and auto calibrates it as low as possible

Simon answered how the deadzone changes based on the switch

[honest nacelle]

That's all software lol

Well

All good sw

Venom, rakka and wooting basically

[glacial wind]

yeah, which only makes me now further want to hate on how stupid deadzone testing is with different switches in every keyboard

[honest nacelle]

Suppose Melgeek too but I'm gonna investigate soon

[honest nacelle]

Yep

No wonder the values I got on rakka were so incredible

Insanely good noise adaptation

[worldly igloo]

Guys should i order black ghost or frost case prob ill use pudding from hyperx black or white or sum like that https://www.amazon.com/dagaladoo-keycaps-Topographic-Percent-Keyboard/dp/B0CH2KSD7J/ref=sr_1_3?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.SUyoTCEfR_rX0ELQt9fCPjI034ZanBivQey1ynhx_Me4Zf5sNv8AyhDJFyRgN901jKgvQJt1-ba7g3kBObTryQaz1_0ll2nyiaBhNobK5ICTSLnvqIQMLxvsOZcBKm7LcDEKWYmF3QxKIH_8EyUGG78xIEwcww-xBL5_3yUG3I1sHFKLrdjOkbt4IoRfwjdLiDg3nXObvxYe8cd1rQ_X5a-D21fOu22EQDTmhBo6YBE.MUnTLUYAayH0qhYdQZ5xYJMk-YdNkn2ZmG4qY3Fcv74&dib_tag=se&keywords=canyon%2Bkeycaps&qid=1733938706&sr=8-3&th=1 😭

[marble sierra]

@glacial wind

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/1005007525120860.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.322027faXDuCaP&algo_pvid=8f72cd97-7368-4bff-b173-1dcfe7fd8543&aem_p4p_detail=202412120535443711286677892010000518273&algo_exp_id=8f72cd97-7368-4bff-b173-1dcfe7fd8543-1&pdp_npi=4%40dis!GBP!10.75!3.71!!!96.82!33.40!%402103864c17340105444597865ef45d!12000041150626074!sea!UK!6094660398!ABX&curPageLogUid=ehgcnIvIkc7n&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A&search_p4p_id=202412120535443711286677892010000518273_2

Why this so cheap xD

[honest nacelle]

Idk, black pudding for ghost white pudding for frost

[honest nacelle]

10 switches?

[glacial wind]

what do you mean, that's normal price for a few vendors

[marble sierra]

Oh I've been seeing them at 80-90 GBP per 90 switches

90 there is 50GBP

[glacial wind]

ah you might have missed recently they started discounting the non rgb/pom magnetos

[honest nacelle]

I hate the kom/pom sound

It's so loud

[glacial wind]

and pom/rgb magnetos have started to be a tiny bit less too (although still absurdly priced outside of sales)

[glacial wind]

i've come to like it, but only my pom magnetos after hand lubing because it's loud but very clean

the gateron gamings are less loud, better pitch and not clean sound

okay so that's nice then I can actually officially say that there is a performance difference based on stability of the switch then @sacred elm you can stop asking for deadzone adjustment setting now

also the switch selector setting is still in the works

[sacred elm]

Actually I didnt really care about deadzone setting at all, switch selector is what im looking for

[glacial wind]

spoken like someone who has the inferior deadzone switches

deadzone superiority

[sacred elm]

[tropic urchin]

Carbon fiber plate secured 🔥

[old sapphire]

lmk how the jade pros feel on it and if its worth the upgrade

[tropic urchin]

Will do 🙏🏻

I’m very interested in how it sounds with it considering 80HE stock everything is dampened to hell and back

Should be arriving by Xmas time

[old sapphire]

i dont know if i'd like a squishy board i like it firm i need to try it out tho for sure in the future im rocking the steel board

[glacial wind]

Testing some new 2 point lighting setups for upcoming wooting switch sound test videos

I think the warm glow looks nice

need to change the wallpaper theme to fit for more perfect aesthetic

[tropic urchin]

CF is right below steel for hardness, but also has a bit of more flexibility than the other plates so it gives you a best of both worlds. I’m thinking steel or brass might be a little overkill, so we shall see. I think the white gold FR4 looks the best, but idk how clacky it’ll make it

[glacial wind]

just the kdbfans tkl version i think is only official one left

[tropic urchin]

How is the Wooting wrist rest

Debating using my free white zinc voucher on it

[glacial wind]

but honestly now we know for sure wooting auto calibrates the deadzone to almost 0 with good switches, so the only real advantage left for venom vs wooting is that it has switch selector, which is coming in near future anyway

so i'm not so sure if there's still much gains in going venom

[glacial wind]

if you like firm wristrests it's goated, because it's firm but soft with tiny bit of give

the white one actually stays less dirty than my black one because it doesn't show sweat/skin oils due to it being white, but i do move it away if eating staining foods like curry etc at the desk now in case of splash

[tropic urchin]

Bet. Aight I’m getting it since my white zinc has been flawless so no need for other cases

[glacial wind]

yeah i've been very happy with mine. For example lemme take a photo of my black one that shows skin oils

That’s the black tkl

black shows all the skin oils, sweat etc really easily. Whereas the white stays pristine looking because you can't see it lol

[tropic urchin]

That black wrist rest looks like it’s been thru nam 💀

[glacial wind]

that's 2 year old wrist rest from daily usage up until i got my 80he lol

[tropic urchin]

It’s been a little tough getting a comfy angle sometimes so hopefully my gift card arrives soon 🙏🏻

[glacial wind]

hrm thinking about it i'm not really sure what else would be on my wooting wishlist now that simon confirmed the auto deadzone is real + switch selector and 0.1rt coming

[tropic urchin]

That’s where I’m at, outside of trying different plates my shits nearing perfect

Either different pad or wrist rest

My artisans have treated my wrists well thankfully

I almost got a friction burn on day 1 of using the raiden but that’s bc I was using my viper v3 and half my hand was on the pad

[glacial wind]

did your cf plate arrive already?

i was wondering how they packaged it for shipping

[tropic urchin]

I just bought it, arriving by end of month

[glacial wind]

ah

[tropic urchin]

I wanted to get it sooner but I was only given 1 shipping option

Which is a rip

[glacial wind]

i'm tempted to get the cf just cause i love stiff keyboards for gaming

[tropic urchin]

I’ve been jealous of the 60HE ppl with their steel plates, but I think CF has the potential to be perfectly balanced

[maiden latch]

\\\\

[tropic urchin]

Perfect clack without going overboard

[glacial wind]

yeah i don't like metal plates. Too pingy

[chilly mural]

@tropic urchin when you get it, tell me what it's like

[tropic urchin]

I got my new carbon fiber mouse yesterday so I’m on a CF spree rn

That thing was crazy using

[chilly mural]

next day you gonna do CF body for your car

[tropic urchin]

I’d just get a new car

🤣

[glacial wind]

need to do max clack and add the random pbtfans glass infused keycaps

i still haven't found a single soundtest of it

[fallen pecan]

which one?

[chilly mural]

Maybe I'll do a max clack build, nobody nearby enough to complain about noise

[tropic urchin]

Stormbreaker Max CF

[fallen pecan]

nice nice

was guessing the wlmouse or the rog

[glacial wind]

oh dam, they're making a retro mixed lights artisan

[tropic urchin]

I was debating WL or final mouse but I liked the Stormbreaker cut outs better

It’s the DAV3 size but 20g lighter which is a crazy experience

[tropic urchin]

I don’t think I can ever buy another ASUS peripheral again 😭

[flat cobalt]

Cosmos Deskmats are gonna ship to Cannonkeys soon

[tropic urchin]

I’m living vicariously thru your cosmos announcements 🤩

Almost want a set now

[flat cobalt]

Hopefully they’ll stock extra for people

[tropic urchin]

Not sure how good it’ll look on white zinc

[flat cobalt]

idunno

[tropic urchin]

When’s the caps supposed to ship

[flat cobalt]

Q2 of 2025

[tropic urchin]

Dayum

I’d die waiting

[flat cobalt]

I might

[tranquil lake]

@glacial wind i saw you talking a lot about stabs and so.
I ordered Geon Raws HE switches and thinking about to order TX AP 1.6T Stabilizers rev.4 Long Pole (clip-ins, because screw-ins are not available in my country) - do you think that is good combination? Or there is better option for stabs? Just want to try other stabs other than the stock ones in my 80HE. Also thinking about changing stock foam to butyl matt/foam.

[tropic urchin]

TX AP should be a good option, same for swagkey knight v2 and designer studio ones

[glacial wind]

i think that's fine, the foam i don't know if it'd bother with personally

[tranquil lake]

Thank you!

[tropic urchin]

I have the knight V2s that came prelubed and wire balanced and my shit is crispy 🥹

[tranquil lake]

also no Knight V2s in my country 😄

[tropic urchin]

Tears

[tranquil lake]

Have to decide between TX AP and Durock v2

TX AP clip ins, Durock V2 screw ins

[dull sequoia]

Were there any updates on Jade Maxes recently? Like whether they are going to fix the sticking and friction issues?

[glacial wind]

there isn’t much to fix. They’re just designed that way

pc on pc plus dual rail. You’re not fixing that unless you literally change the structure of the switch

[fallen pecan]

just saw eyejoker uploaded a vid on the ace60pro and ace68 9 hours ago

[glacial wind]

eyejoker really should sign up for hey gen or similar

The ai translation apps are insanely good now, he’d make a lot of extra income uploading in English

[fallen pecan]

the auto tranalsted subs will do for now, but it's missing some sentences

not bad for a budget board

[glacial wind]

I assume that’ll be standard for latency across all boards nowadays

[fallen pecan]

switch wobble

ktek is also ttc btw

[sacred elm]

jade pro👀

wait is that new video?

[fallen pecan]

ye

[sacred elm]

wait actually thats kinda insane

i mean jade pros

[fallen pecan]

also has a giveaway on his discord for 10 of the ace60 pro

[tropic urchin]

W Jade pros

[glacial wind]

That’s stability not pure bottom out wobble just fyi

in case you were mixing up the 2. It’s a bit confusing but basically stability is partially on the magnet tolerance as well

[sacred elm]

lekker v2😭

[glacial wind]

Oh wait no I thought jabber posted the other photo lol

That one he posted now is the actual mm stability measurement

[ocean garden]

Is it the one they put on mchose keyboards ?

[honest nacelle]

I think mm stability is useless

[fallen pecan]

ye, and on the pricier ones you get actual ttc

[honest nacelle]

This is the point where auto cal just takes over

Negates the differences

Flux stability is more telling of actual tolerances

[glacial wind]

the flux bottom out one is a bit more accurate yeah

[honest nacelle]

It's why I included nums of both

[tropic urchin]

Just get pros

[fallen pecan]

the bili guys barely mention the geon raws and lekkers are so pricey after shipping and stuff, so they just dont test them

[honest nacelle]

Thought raws would be fairly cheap

Kr to cn surely can't be that bad

[fallen pecan]

raws are not pricey, but i just dont see them in the scene over there

noone spreading the word i guess

on taobao im seeing only 300 sold spread over 2 stores in 6 months

[dull sequoia]

Pro are terrible for RGB

[sacred elm]

get lekker v1

[tropic urchin]

Then get RAWs if it’s that much of a deal breaker

[dull sequoia]

I am on regular Jades already. Just wondering what is happening with Maxes

[tropic urchin]

Not worth your $ honestly, not smooth and you’re paying top dollar for mid switches

[glacial wind]

Raws probably pricy compared to local Chinese pricing on some of the switches

[tropic urchin]

If the only thing that is good on the Maxes is their springs, shit is cooked

[sacred elm]

pro springs >

[tropic urchin]

It’s literally the same spring 🤣

[sacred elm]

its not

[fallen pecan]

295rmb per 90 raws, 411rmb for 90 jade pros

[sacred elm]

pros have 20mm

and maxes i think 16mm

[fallen pecan]

uranus(regular) are 327rmb per 90, uranus TE are 366rmb per 90

raws are slightly cheaper than uranus

[dull sequoia]

Yeah got 10 raws for testing. Didnt have the time yet

[amber hornet]

bro never touched a custom keyboard in his life

[honest nacelle]

he's not wrong tho

[tropic urchin]

I can hear the rattle all the way over here

[sacred elm]

not wrong about what

[amber hornet]

about the sound? yes he is wrong about that lol

[tropic urchin]

I need to hear it 🤣

[sacred elm]

what exclusive features😭

[amber hornet]

I mean the wooting60he isnt much better when it comes to rattle tbh

[tropic urchin]

It sounds like a hybrid between GMMK 3 pro and my old huntsman

[tropic urchin]

I don’t like most things stock anymore

[sacred elm]

60he+ is a lot better than older version

[tropic urchin]

I’m 100% a firm believer in customizing to fit your needs

I’ve heard worse than the new gen 3 apex, but I wouldn’t say I like it tho

[sacred elm]

mad 68he sounds better than your zinc 80he with jade pros

[tropic urchin]

Oh fuck that

Synapse 3 PTSD

[sacred elm]

but there is aim trainer in the software buddy 🤓 ☝️

lmao

[tropic urchin]

Hop on the venom HE buddy with your new TTCs

[sacred elm]

who even added aim trainer in a keyboard/mouse software😭😭😭

[tropic urchin]

Ppl that like bloatware and fake features

[sacred elm]

wait let me find that

💀

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/167181566978555904/1306032667136884806/temp_image_B89AC707-3BA4-4CEC-919C-7238F317D1A1.webp?ex=675c1574&is=675ac3f4&hm=fdf6153bcce7d5ca2975185c814a0d17d696daab3db461e9c57649dbc4a17155&

[chilly mural]

Still waiting for my venom to arrive

[tidal frigate]

Both are chinnese

[tropic urchin]

Let’s see how long it takes for me to uninstall synapse with the Stormbreaker 🤣

Speed run time

Ye

Nacho to match my lavender cable

Whzy collab ships from China

But yeah the other ones is from the states

RIP

Yeah the Stormbreaker max is the perfect shape for me

Viper had my entire hand on the mouse pad

That’s fucked

[wet summit]

Hello. Anybody knows a good site to order Geon RAW HE switches? I'm located in Europe

[edgy totem]

Kbdfans ship global and pretty trusting imo

[wet summit]

Any experience with ordering directly from geon?

[night atlas]

Any WD Dash owners think that they need to be hand lubed, or would you say factory is lubing fine?

Wondering if it's worth it to lube it

[knotty iron]

Do they resell Raw HE switches?

[wet summit]

Yes they do. Price is same vs ordering from geon directly. Not sure which is best/fastest

[knotty iron]

i bought from both and they were relatively fast

well i live close to the coast so that helps haha

[edgy totem]

I haven't ordered from geon directly yet. I did order the raws from kbdfans tho. It took a little over a week. But got them just fine.

[wet summit]

eloquentclicks also seems to have Geon RAW HE in stock, but I've never ordered from them before

[worldly igloo]

where to buy them

Guys how much geon raw he should i order for 80he?

[chilly mural]

90

[tropic urchin]

you'll end up using 84-86 ish, but 90 is the quantity you want to give you a few extras if needed

[spice apex]

i ordered pros 🙏

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/success-great-job-nice-great-success-great-gif-5586706

[spice apex]

speaking of which i have something around 270 switches that need lubed

lol

[tropic urchin]

May the mahjong sound forever be in your favor

[tropic urchin]

😭😭

That’s going to be a project

[spice apex]

never ending

some of the switches are my gat blacks

i got pom top housings for them

[tropic urchin]

I’ve lubed way too much and it’s going to be like 150-180 switches in total I think that I lubed

[spice apex]

i think in total i’ve lubed something around 700 switches

[tropic urchin]

Just from starting with Maxes to frankenswitch raws and now pros

[tropic urchin]

Making me feel better now

You going 80HE?

[spice apex]

maybe later on next year

im gonna stick to the 60 and if i run into any issues i’ll get an 80

[tropic urchin]

Was gonna say I’m ordering a CF plate to try on pros since the stock PC plate isn’t very clacky

Yours should be very poppy with steel plate

[spice apex]

im not a big fan of pc plates

they’ve never sounded very good to me

[tropic urchin]

That + silicone foam dampens it a lot

CF I’m hoping makes it a lot poppier without the super firm rigidity

Some flexibility will be nice

[spice apex]

i’ve only ever used a CF plate once on my nk87

and (probably a manufacturer issue) it destroyed all of my switches i put in it

[tropic urchin]

💀💀

[spice apex]

i had to buy new housings for like 70 switches

actually horrible

[tropic urchin]

wtf happened

[spice apex]

the switch slots were too tight

so when i tried taking them out the switch puller would pull the top housing off of the switches

and break the bottom housing tabs

[wet summit]

how is the pre-lubing on the Geon RAW HE switches?

[spice apex]

idk myself, but probably average

drop of lube at the bottom of the housing

[tropic urchin]

Raw stock lube job is probably the best I’ve seen so far

Lubing it did absolutely fuck all

If you wanna lube them I’d probably just touch springs since those are usually pretty bare

[wet summit]

Nice! Just ordered, switching out my L60 v1

[tropic urchin]

Those should be a pretty big upgrade congrats 🙂

[tropic urchin]

Ah gotcha

[tranquil lake]

Do I need to take off stock "PET film tape mod" if i want to make tape mod (3 layers) for my 80HE?

[spice apex]

https://a.co/d/a2Xp1Do

[spice apex]

i forgot i sent this without adding context

@tropic urchin if you check out this seller their prices for regs vs pros makes no sense

pros almost $10 cheaper for 72 than for regs

[tropic urchin]

Looks like it’s from a random vendor and not Gateron directly

I’d just play it safe and buy it from them directly and not use a 3rd party vendor

[tropic urchin]

Yeah

[amber escarp]

hallo
has a discount code of wooting
but buying a keyboard is very expensive only a 10% discount 🥹

[spice apex]

oh also @tropic urchin is there a reason why the jades i got from kbdfans have qr codes on the bottom of each switch

im very confused by it

[mint crater]

Are there better stabilizers for wooting 80HE? I added ceramic keycaps and my spacebar now feels a bit sticky. I did upgrade the spring to 80, im thinking i might need to get better stabilizers to fix this issue. Anyone else having this issue and did you find a fix for it?

[tropic urchin]

Send a pic that’s a new one

[tropic urchin]

I would be too 🤣, I’ve never bought from KBDfans so I can’t say

[signal ridge]

Mine from ali have them too

[spice apex]

it’ll be like 2.5 hours before i’m home so i’ll send a picture then

it’s very odd

[tropic urchin]

Idk my shit I got from Gateron was just blank bottoms, maybe it’s there for a quick rebuy

Very bizarre

[barren wasp]

how are these cheaper

[tropic urchin]

I wouldn’t trust random 3rd parties selling for cheaper personally

[hybrid cairn]

yeah, youre better off js making your own jade like this guy^ if you arent gna buy them from a reputable place at full price

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/philip-de-franco-package-attention-you-ordered-enjoy-gif-16593723

[hybrid cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-generator-gif-22648083

[tranquil lake]

I want to buy butyl foam (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ywjXQ_XP6o somethinkg like here 5:50), which thickness should I buy for my 80HE? 1.5mm / 2mm / 2.5mm or even 3mm? Want to try instead of factory foam.

[mint crater]

Are there better stabilizers for wooting 80HE? I added ceramic keycaps and my spacebar now feels a bit sticky. I did upgrade the spring to 80, im thinking i might need to get better stabilizers to fix this issue. Anyone else having this issue and did you find a fix for it?

[cyan lark]

It's highly likely the issue is not the stabilizer, but the pads underneath them. Many people including myself have had this issue. I suggest removing them.

But if you just want to know about different stabs, searching in here or #🌟│wooting80he and there's a plethora of recommendations available.

[mint crater]

which pads?

[cyan lark]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1288813825591611545 The ones underneath the stabilizer housing.

[mint crater]

got it thank you!

[mint crater]

wow that worked thanks @cyan lark !

[reef oar]

just found out

i accidentally ordered jades instead of jade pros bc of aliexpress' dogshit

so just ordered jade pros from gateron themselves

i'll prob just return the aliexpress ones

aliexpress is actually shameless though, jade pros in the title and images yet it auto selects you onto the jade and you have to manually select jade pro

didn't know that

idrc, i bet the pros arrive quicker anyway

who wants 70 gateron jades

[tropic urchin]

mine have usually taken 10-11 days when using their economy shipping

[reef oar]

yeah, prob arriving at the same time then

23rd expected on aliexpress

[spice apex]

i did the same thing on kbdfans

[reef oar]

2 victims

any more?

kbdfans shipping is like 10mil so i didn't buy from them

[sacred elm]

yea there were more

[reef oar]

we're all just braindead

[signal ridge]

I got the pros

[worthy rover]

you got me checking if i got jade pros or not

[tropic urchin]

W

[signal ridge]

pros before h

[tranquil lake]

Someone?

[random hull]

I wanted to try butyl but that stuff so expensive

[tranquil lake]

i can buy 50x50cm for like 15$

so not that much

im not talking about siless which is probably best but yeah

[random hull]

ahh maybe i confused them

15$ isnt too bad then

[tranquil lake]

but i have hard time thinking about thickness of this

[random hull]

hmm whats the stock foam like

that one already presses into the pcb for me

[tranquil lake]

idk, cant even find info about that

here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx6vTEtwZ50 12:41) guy putting 2mm siless with stock foam

[dusky wing]

Any advice on switch removal for 80he, I’ve removed switches on other kbs no problem but these are wild

Yes I’m wiggling yes I’m using the switch remover from the box no I’m not trying to force it

[spice apex]

switches come out very easy if you take the case apart

[dusky wing]

Does that include unscrewing the pcb, I’ve got it out of the case as a unit

[spice apex]

i dont think so

[reef oar]

wiggle harder

[spice apex]

just take the top tray off and they should be easier to take out

[split dagger]

Which ones do you guys think I should get for my 60he

[dusky wing]

Gnna sit here for an hour jiggle wiggling ig

[spice apex]

i had a similar problem with my nk87 and i just had to take the top tray off

removes the tension

[reef oar]

i was gonna go for the red samurais with red case but it's kinda that buzz lightyear meme

https://tenor.com/view/clone-clones-buzz-lightyear-toy-story-gif-21609842

that's bc they look great though

[spice apex]

idk where my hatred for subs came from

i dislike samurai for that specific reason

[reef oar]

the gold on red is just hella nice

[split dagger]

Yea I do see that all the time

[chilly mural]

red samurai, if you don't mind japanese kana

[split dagger]

Well also the 2nd are like 40$ more bc there discontinued

[reef oar]

gmk olivia >

[split dagger]

Oh yea those are nice

[reef oar]

always sold out

[split dagger]

Makes sense there clean

Idk tho bc I do really like sumi but I do like red samurai

But I feel like there much more common

[reef oar]

i'd get what your heart desires rather than being unique

wouldn't wanna get something else and regret it

[split dagger]

So prob the sumi

Going to be a bit till I get them bc im also saving for some geon raws and a black switch plate

[reef oar]

valid

[split dagger]

I hate the white switch plate its so ugly seeing it through the keycaps

[reef oar]

raws over jade pros?

[split dagger]

Idk I like the sound of raws a bit more rn im running normal jades

[reef oar]

ah that's chill

looking for sumis rn, can only find the novelties for $75

crazy

[split dagger]

I like ttc magneto also but there price is wild

[split dagger]

On ebay you can find them easily for 100$

The whole set

[reef oar]

that's a good price

[split dagger]

The post im looking at are 130$ but the guy would prob take 100$ comes with the whole set and the deskmat

[reef oar]

• deskmat is fire

[split dagger]

Yea fr

Anyone know a aluminum case for the 80he?

[reef oar]

depends how long you wanna wait

[split dagger]

Catboard

[full mauve]

what the heck

[split dagger]

I think you mean “heck yeah”

[full mauve]

its interesting to say the least

but cool stuff lol

[glacial wind]

That’s how newer batches of jades all come

awhile back gateron started putting those QR codes on bottom of their jades

[fluid ravine]

OH HELL YEAH

SPECS

WHERE CAN I GET THAT

[hybrid cairn]

add a program that makes it meow whenever you press a key

[split dagger]

Idk lmao I was looking at keycaps and someone left a review with this pic attached

[quiet bay]

It really is a custom keyboard

[split dagger]

Custom everything lol

[fluid ravine]

can i get a link ples

[split dagger]

https://drop.com/talk/117487/purrrfect?utm_source=linkshare&referer=HNMQDP

[fluid ravine]

zanku

[agile grove]

this is cursed

I love it

[main mason]

just got my wooting80he and its amazing

looking to do some mods to it

any suggestions

[chilly mural]

New switches, and/or new keycaps

As for recommendation... for me just go for geon raw he

[main mason]

the stock keycaps are ABS?

they feel very cheap quality ngl

i replaced them with some double shot pbt ones i had lying around for now

[hybrid cairn]

thats cause they are cheap keycaps lmao, best budget ones you can buy rn imo

[main mason]

hmm

im looking for some keycaps

any suggestions?

i dont want blank keycaps lol

[hybrid cairn]

imma need to know what youre looking for, how much u wna spend, and allat before anyone gives any suggestions to ya lol

[main mason]

as for budget ig like at most $150

i want the keycaps to haev a black background

and the texts to be white

i was thinking of the japanese ones wooting has

[main mason]

are there any 3rd party better alternatives perhaps

[hybrid cairn]

not exactly sure about that, most common black n white i know of is the PBTFans WOB

[main mason]

is upgrading the stabs worth it?

the stock feel p good imo

[hybrid cairn]

if they feel good to you then no need to

[main mason]

yea but i also dont know what im missing out on lol

like i dont have anything to compare them to rn

did u replace the stabs?

[hybrid cairn]

i mean if you tuned and lubed em right then theyll be js as good as any other stab

[hybrid cairn]

nah stuck with stock, js tuning and lubing em

[glacial wind]

What you’re missing out on is an hour of work disassembling and lubing things and -$20 in your pocket

[static tendon]

Does anyone here own a salvation and the optimum case?

[hybrid cairn]

oh btw i was talking to some other guy and he said that the XHT-BDZ lasts longer than js regular dieelectric grease but causes a slower return, do you have any knowledge on this?

[glacial wind]

it’s no noticable difference. The only thing to be worried about is overdoing it with xht-bdz

[static tendon]

Maybe @harsh dove ? I think you mentioned you ordering one^

[glacial wind]

the return rate of your stabs doesn’t matter unless you’re actually getting stuck sluggish stabs due to warped keycaps or whatever

[fluid ravine]

yes he has both

[hybrid cairn]

i currently am not in a position to lube my own stabs (all of my lubing stuff is packed and locked somewhere) so i was gna js outsource it to a service, do you think i should trust em with using XHT-BDZ or js let em use dielectric grease?

[hybrid cairn]

fair enough

[glacial wind]

if the person cannot do a simple job such as lubing stabs properly then they shouldn't be offering the service

[harsh dove]

Yeah, wassup man?

[static tendon]

Hey Cam!

[glacial wind]

so i can't comment on how good or bad that service is - but it's not hard to not overlube stabs if you have any amount of experience doing it

[harsh dove]

[static tendon]

I was just wondering which case feels softer to type on? The salvation or a friction mounted optimum case?

If you have it mounted that way ofc^

[hybrid cairn]

haha fair enough, they say on their site they use dielectric grease for their stab service but you can send in your own lube to use instead, if thats the case should i js let em use dielectric grease?

[glacial wind]

i'd just let them use their grease

[hybrid cairn]

gotcha preciate it

[glacial wind]

it doesn't matter all that much as long as the stab ends up non rattly

[hybrid cairn]

oh btw im sure you lubed your TTC magnetos, did you feel a notable performance / feel benefit after doing so or was it basically js a sound difference?

[hybrid cairn]

true true

[glacial wind]

just more even and consistent feel

[harsh dove]

Tbh they're both pretty soft to type on, you get more bounce/flex with the Salvation though, both feel great imo can't really go wrong

[static tendon]

Gotcha gotcha, I was thinking of potentially picking one up but I really don't like the way standard tray mounts typically feel. I really liked the salvation for it's leaf spring design so if they're similar I'll take your word on it 🙂 Thanks a bunch

[hybrid cairn]

gotcha, im debating on spending like 35 bucks to get em lubed while getting my stabs all tuned up or js to buy a switch opener, do a spring swap, and leave em unlubed, any opinions?

[fluid ravine]

Mine fr

[hybrid cairn]

that board sounding mighty edible homie

[static tendon]

Also @harsh dove how many cases do you have rn? I saw you had a KBD 5 degree, salvation, tofu, and frog mini I think?

Kinda jealous no lie. 5 degree also looks sick especially in the green color

[fluid ravine]

lmfao thanks

[harsh dove]

60HE Compatible cases, I have 6

[glacial wind]

i'd lube them personally. And spring swapping ttc magneto to worse springs is a bit weird, but i guess that's cerakeys things

[hybrid cairn]

wdym by worse springs?

[glacial wind]

the ttc magnetos come with 21mm springs

[hybrid cairn]

the ones im getting are 22mm so pretty close

[static tendon]

Nice! What's your favorite case so far?

[glacial wind]

oh you bought aliexpress 22mm ones?

[hybrid cairn]

ye, was that a bad choice?

[harsh dove]

For 60HE, Frog Mini and Optimum Case

[fluid ravine]

fwog

optimum

[glacial wind]

eh who knows - i don't think anyone has tested them

[static tendon]

Ooo good to know, do you use the PBT caps that come along with the Optimum case?

[glacial wind]

if springs are too long it can be crunchy, but it's probably fine

[harsh dove]

Nah I have GMK Rubrehose on it

[static tendon]

Ooo and what is your least favorite case?

[hybrid cairn]

yyeah i mean, how big of a difference could a 1mm diff in spring length make? hahaha...

[main mason]

how to make spacebar more thocc

rn its this very annoying sharp sound

[hybrid cairn]

on wooting thocc impossible, in general u can fill it with foam (or glue, this is a worse options but it is what it is), lube and turn ur stabs and switch, and pray l m a o

[main mason]

i like the soudn of everythign else

[harsh dove]

Probably Tofu or Alumaze if I had to choose out of all of them, but they're also the cheapest technically so, I prefer Alumaze design over Tofu but Tofu sound over Alumaze

[main mason]

just the spacebar is meh

putting foam in the spacebar will help?

what type of foam hm

[static tendon]

Appreciate the review on those. You have a wide variety of cases to test from so I thought you'd be perfect to ask

[harsh dove]

I would say Optimum case probs sounds the best out of the cheaper cases

[hybrid cairn]

120 usd case... cheaper cases..... this hobby is wild bruh

[fluid ravine]

the trade offs 🔥
agreed

[static tendon]

Yeah it's a really cool looking case. I hear it's also a limited run so eventually it'll stop selling. Makes me want it more

I don't think they'd release colored variants down the line but who knows. Wooting has many releases

[harsh dove]

Yeah I was surprised by the sound I got out of it after building it, was pretty happy

[static tendon]

Are you still running the friction mount as well? Or do you ever prefer to run it as a standard tray mount?

[harsh dove]

Yeah, friction mount

[static tendon]

I really don't like a rough bottom out feel

Yeah i'll be planning on doing the same thing

[fluid ravine]

Same here, I think I can make it "better" but I'm unsure how, could be just the plate materials I would have to test

[harsh dove]

What plate are you using ?

[fluid ravine]

CF

[harsh dove]

I have POM in mine

ah okay

[fluid ravine]

yeah your POM sounds great

it's like "soft" in your recordings

which i appreciate

like to me cf, it's cool that it sounds bright but i feel like i want it toned down a bit but with a "curve" in the sound profile

[main mason]

is there a specific foam i can get just for spacebars?

with the cutouts

[flat cobalt]

Probably on AliExpress or Amazon

Space Bar Foam

[long nacelle]

hey frens
I need some help deciding on keycaps. I’ve used OEM most of my life and am pretty well adjusted to the height, but every keycap set I find that I like ends up being Cherry. I’m just wondering which you guys prefer and if there’s a noticeable difference between them while gaming

[spice apex]

get jelly tape

[fluid ravine]

well you should be fine tbh, tbr from what i see OEM and cherry are pretty similar, the 2 things i noticed that are different is that OEM is slightly taller while also having that like slight curve that your fingers can rest on but otherwise shape wise i feel like they're similar.

[spice apex]

mt3 from drop feel like a pillow for your fingers

i really like them

[fluid ravine]

@long nacelle

[long nacelle]

so I’ve seen, I just wonder if my wrist will sit better with the lower profile or not. I’m using the tofu 60 redux without a wrist rest, lower profile doesn’t sound terrible but I just dunno

[fluid ravine]

i mean iirc wooting stated smth about lower angle is more "optimal" or smth smth

[long nacelle]

doesn’t the board come with OEM profile by default though?

[fluid ravine]

yeah they do

[long nacelle]

that’s funny

[fluid ravine]

but im referring to like the case

[long nacelle]

oh yeah

man… the tofu looks so nice but I’ve lowkey never got used to it since swapping to it

just doesn’t feel comfortable

[fluid ravine]

cus it sits higher at a 7 degree angle?

[long nacelle]

the height appears roughly the same if not a little lower than something like a ducky but it’s just so sharp

[fluid ravine]

and you're used to..

[long nacelle]

came from a ducky

[fluid ravine]

did you use first feet or second feet?

[static tendon]

Are you using OEM profile or cherry profile keycaps?

[fluid ravine]

cus i think feet setting one is 4 degree while the second is 8 degrees

[static tendon]

You're correct

[fluid ravine]

shii nice

that was somewhat a guess lmfao

[long nacelle]

oem sir

[static tendon]

I have my ducky as well. Feels amazing can't lie. But I also am using a 7.5 degree case

[sacred elm]

clean

[long nacelle]

I’m not actually sure what you mean sorry, I never saw any options for this

it was just a ducky one 2 mini

[spice apex]

xda profile are really good for no angle

[fluid ravine]

the ducky one 2 mini has flippy feets on the back of the case

each setting provides a different angle

[long nacelle]

oh no I never used em, I left them unextended

[fluid ravine]

so i suppose 4 degrees was what you were using

[long nacelle]

is the tofu more raised?

[fluid ravine]

and now ur saying you can't really get used to the tofu redux degree of being 7

[long nacelle]

ooooo

[fluid ravine]

yes

by 3

[long nacelle]

man.. that would explain a lot

[fluid ravine]

indeed

[long nacelle]

that makes a lot of sense

hadn’t thought about that

didn’t even realise

[static tendon]

If you would have gone for the wooting alumaze case, it also sits at the same height as the ducky, maaaybe 1 degree lower even

[fluid ravine]

yeah i tried the 4 degree setting on my optimum case

it's quite comfortable

[long nacelle]

maybe swapping to cherry wouldn’t be such a bad thing then? since it’ll lower the profile a bit

[static tendon]

Mmmmm kinda

[fluid ravine]

but im so used to tofu's case angle

so i ended up using 7

[long nacelle]

I know the angles still present

but yeah

[static tendon]

Like a different feel from caps entirely

[fluid ravine]

pretty much

[long nacelle]

I wouldn’t mind swapping the case too if it comes to it but I can withstand using it for now

he is a handsome boy

are you positive the incline is different though? let me get a photo of them side by side hold up

[static tendon]

I might have a photo of the height comparison between ducky and alumaze

Just gotta dig around for it

[long nacelle]

they look incredibly similar

[fluid ravine]

me with my digital vibrance cus of my shitty monitor 😭

[long nacelle]

I feel like it’s more just the fact that the case has nothing for you to grip into that bothers me

[static tendon]

This doesn't show the height at all though 😦

[fluid ravine]

put the case back to back

and take a picture directly from the side

[long nacelle]

nice setup

[static tendon]

I don't have the Alumaze anymore

[fluid ravine]

sadge

[static tendon]

These were the old photos, I now run a salvation case

[long nacelle]

running oem caps I assume?

[fluid ravine]

love salvation

i would run a salvation if i were to choose between that and the optimum case

i prefer like the edges of how it look and the leaf spring tray mount

[static tendon]

Thank you! This was my setup at the time

[fluid ravine]

then i would second optimum

[long nacelle]

I’m literally in the process of cleaning my room to get new setup pics 😭

[fluid ravine]

is that a foot rest squints

[static tendon]

Yep!

[fluid ravine]

ooo

is it branded or anything like that

im blind as hell

you got a link to it? im curious

[static tendon]

I've had it for something like 5 years or so

[fluid ravine]

oh damnnnnnnn

glad it's holding up

hold up is that a mini fridge i see?!

[static tendon]

The brand is "Office Ottoman"

[static tendon]

You got it! Great little fridge, stays insanely cold

[fluid ravine]

dmannnnnnn if i had my own room with my setup in it i would def get one myself

[static tendon]

I don't have the link anymore, it was purchased on a very old amazon account I used to run

[fluid ravine]

but my fridge is like 4 steps away from me sooooooooooo

[static tendon]

I can try looking for it though

[fluid ravine]

dont need to do all that since my setup is in the living room lol

[fluid ravine]

it's all good

i just searched it up

and found someting similar

https://www.amazon.com/BlissTrends-Work-Versatile-Cover-Comfortable-Adjustable-Pain-Black/dp/B0BFQX3YFY?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&smid=A2KR3FSYATB9J9&th=1 like this for example

[long nacelle]

so should I cave in and go with ducky keycaps or nah

[static tendon]

Yeah that's odd, I can't find it anymore. I like the one I have because it sits fairly low but adds support for my feet. It had a bunch of review but again it was purchased so long ago

[umbral ridge]

need the paper on the wall

[static tendon]

Yeah! This is somewhat like it

[static tendon]

Oh, the wallpaper?

[umbral ridge]

yes 🙏

[static tendon]

I'll take a look, gimme a sec

[static tendon]

Found it here. This one is really cool because it stretches throughout all 3 of my monitors

There aren't many compatible wallpapers that I liked which fit all 3 monitors the way this one does

[dusty wren]

i got jade maxes from mliktooth and they are pre lubed

i wanna lube them tho

do i wipe the lube off eery swithc and then lube

or js do it without wipig

[static tendon]

I wouldn't recommend, the difference will be very minor if you end up re-lubing them

[umbral ridge]

ty 😀

[static tendon]

But yeah removing the lube will be your best bet if you want it consistent @dusty wren

[dusty wren]

isnt factory lube not as good tho

[static tendon]

It feels and sounds the same to me personally. It's more of the sound consistency that I think is impacted

It's also very easy to over-lube. The factory lube I think is great as is

Takes a long time to do as well, If you just got those switches, I'd reccomend testing them out for a bit to see how you like it. If you're still unhappy with it. Try unlubing/re-lubing like your main switches, if you think it's worth it, then you can try redo-ing all of them

That will be about 61 switches to lube

[static tendon]

Happy to help 🙂

[serene vortex]

why the actual fuck would they make the module screws so hard to take out

this is absurd

only a single screw out of all of them would budge

[static tendon]

Hmm, tbh I didn’t experience this when having my module

[serene vortex]

lucky you

[fluid ravine]

or unlucky you actually

pretty sure most to all people don't have a problem taking out their module screws

[serene vortex]

cool so mine just got tightened to oblivion

love that

[fluid ravine]

[dusk sedge]

What do you guys think is the best way to schedule a fuller more even sound profile on the classic wooting tofu combo

I know there will be obviously be variance depending on switch position but the middle keys sound so dead 😭

Any way to remedy this? I had zip n fit case foam but it honestly sound better to me without it and less muted

[dusty wren]

is there a way i can get another accent piece for the alumaze?

[halcyon flax]

Hey, I got my geon Rawls from Ali Tuesday, and will be getting my wooting next week or so, do I need to lube the switches as they look preluded

[glacial wind]

They’re prelubed. If you want to do hand lubing I’d just bag lube the springs and maybe spread the lube on stems a bit better

[halcyon flax]

I did press multiple switches and it was all smooth

I will lube some other time

[kind geyser]

Hello, i'm getting soon the 80he module, got geon raws for switch and i'm doubting if i should add some foam or something for improve the sound, some videos talk about frogtape another about siless, it's worth to make these updates?, did someone try them?

[halcyon flax]

Try painters tape

You can use foam for space bar as some reported that it’s getting sticky

[kind geyser]

well i'm trying frogtape(painters tape) only and if i see that i dont like the keyboard as it gets, i'll start changing things, thank you

[tranquil lake]

Mods that I will do pretty soon:

• frogtape (3 layers)
• siless-like material (2mm or 2.5mm thickness)
• AP TX 1.6 long pole stabs (but you can just lube stock ones)
• Install geon raw he switches

[kind geyser]

u'll make a video of it?

[tranquil lake]

well.. i can, but just amateur one. I will try my best

[kind geyser]

we believe on u

[tranquil lake]

haha

[kind geyser]

[tranquil lake]

lubing stabs is must have

i dont like stock ones

kinda rattle

[kind geyser]

well i'll try stock since i have panic about touching them, my hands are not done for delicate work, i feel like breaking something on setup 😄

but well if u make a video of it and i see it easy, maybe i get enough courage to do it

[glacial wind]

Generally the foam mods are more minor and for fun

If you do switches and foam in space bar you’ll have all the major sound mods done already

After that you can look at different plate if you want to experiment, but beyond that most stuff is way more minor and not super worth doing unless you just want to see for fun

[kind geyser]

do u have some video of installing foam on space bar?

on youtube or something

i saw some of mod, but no one did it, only change stabilizers, putting siless on bottom, frogtape, switches, keycaps, lubing..

[glacial wind]

It’s just foam that comes with sticky tape already and you just slot it into the space bar

Search spacebar foam on aliexpress and you’ll see lots of it for $1-2

[kind geyser]

thanks

[signal ridge]

Do they obscure the led shinr trough

I have transparent keycaps

[ionic breach]

yes

[glacial wind]

yeah don't use em if you have transparent keycaps

[spice apex]

use jelly tape

im just gonna change my name to jelly tape

[flat cobalt]

yogurt tape

[worthy rover]

my geon raws came in

all this time I thought I’d like heavier switches but I actually ended up prefering lighter ones now

learning things about myself thanks to this keyboard

[sullen salmon]

has anyone gotten the gateron magnetic jade gaming switches?
currently have the OG jades on a wooting 60he, looking to upgrade to the 80he.

[sullen salmon]

how's the sound?

[worthy rover]

I honestly tried only 2 keys, currently trying if i like 50 or 60g

compared to lekker v2s it sounds more cleaner quite like it

sounds deeper i think?

[sullen salmon]

that's what im after

"thockiest" HE board possible

[worthy rover]

queue in “thock is a lie” messages

[sullen salmon]

current one is a little too high pitched and "clacky"

fr

[tropic urchin]

Thats the one thing I really like about the wooting boards, allows you to find what you really like and can build your perfect board instead of hoping stock is your jam

Builds a great foundation + software and allows you to perfect the rest

[sullen salmon]

my wooting 60 is modded to the absolute max. wooden gh60 case, polyfill, tape mod, new stabs, fully lubed jades and fully llubed stabs, bandaids on PCB, pbt keycaps, friction fit

[worthy rover]

yup thats why I was confident about my purchase, very happy with it now

only thing I am not happy about is I wish I bought the gateron switch puller earlier to have it now

[tropic urchin]

Im using the Wuque Studio titanium switch puller currently and its very lightweight and easy to use, having a good switch puller is a must if you wanna swap shit out without having to take it fully apart bc that stock puller is not it unless you're popeye

[signal ridge]

Got a link?

[spice apex]

what country do you live in

cuz ik for a fact walmart has it for like $3 in the US

[signal ridge]

Germania

I dont know how it looks like

If i type it on amazon i get stuff for nails

[spice apex]

just search up double sided transparent jelly tape

i gotta work rn so i can’t look for it

my roll is duck brand

green box

[signal ridge]

Alr ty mate

[random hull]

i want my spacebar 😫

[worthy rover]

pulled one switch with the stock puller and I immediately ordered the gateron puller

[sullen salmon]

why is pbtfans so much cheaper than gmk? i always thought pbt was of higher quality plastic

[glacial wind]

Gmk tends to have better legends and plastic type is preference

[fallen pecan]

the same way Vuitton fake leather is more expensive than genuine leather goods

[glacial wind]

You can find gmk sets for like $50-100 if you look though, especially on sales these days

So not all gmk is $150

Pbtfans is good as long as you stick to the icon sets instead of writing on the mods

their mods sometimes have slightly scuffed thickness on the legends

[fallen pecan]

also gmk is made in germany i believe, higher wages etc

[tropic urchin]

I don’t blame you, I had to use my puller I got from ASUS from my Rog Azoth and had to take everything apart. With my new one I didn’t have to do anything extra 🙏🏻

[worthy rover]

its better to take apart the keyboard while changing all switches right?

instead of hotswapping

didnt change switches before

[tropic urchin]

It’s not required, but it makes it easier once you expose the plate. For example using my new puller on my Jade pros I didn’t have to take anything apart and was able to remove every switch relatively easily

But Jade pros are a little easier than RAWs since the light diffuser doesn’t go flying

[worthy rover]

oh god that happens?

[tropic urchin]

They’re tricky but not terrible once you have a good grip on it

I think your time will vary depending on your tool of choice

[worthy rover]

I didnt want to take apart since I have tape mod but I suppose I can remove the tape mod like a layer and lay it back in?

[fallen pecan]

if the switches are ultra hard to get out, you'll just have to push them out from the bottom

[tropic urchin]

Might have to use more tape, but it shouldn’t be hard to do. I ended up just using the PET film instead

Once you get it how you like then hopefully you won’t have to redo it

[worthy rover]

worst case I’ll redo the tape mod I dont think I can tolerate hotswapping with this stock puller

gonna dive in after I decide if I like 50 or 60g

50 seems like a nice balance

[bleak heart]

Bit of a weird question but are covers for keyboards a thing? Like a dust cover. I've been using the plastic cover it came with but looking for something more legit

[tropic urchin]

Ye 50g is nice

[fallen pecan]

ive seen shops selling acrylic covers for certain models

[bleak heart]

thanks I'll continue my search then

[slender umbra]

Hey I’m attempting to remove the Module from the ABS case and I’m wondering if any PH1 screwdriver would work or if I should go buy another size. Anyone here know? Also are these (they came witg buying Alumaze) just replacements just in case or the ones I should use? And if so are they also PH1s?

[frosty coral]

my fkin modded 60he sounds so odd

some parts of keyboard sound crazy thock

spacebar sounds awful idk

tofu60 case (with tofu foam)
jade pros
gmks wobs

what mods do i do

[tropic urchin]

I’d try putting some foam in your space bar if it sounds kinda hollow

[frosty coral]

what mods u do to your jade pro

keyboard

[tropic urchin]

For my 80HE: I lubed my set of pros, I used knight v2 stabs, kept the PET film, I’m planning on replacing the PC plate for CF

Using GMK lazurite caps as well on white zinc

And I also put some poron foam under my space bar

[frosty coral]

idk a word ur saying let me go 1 by 1

[tropic urchin]

Some of it will be different since yours isn’t an 80HE (disregard the PET film)

[frosty coral]

how should i put the foam in my spacebar?

[tropic urchin]

It should look like this but without the center piece

Find one for a 6.25u space bar that you like

[frosty coral]

no way that does anything.

[tropic urchin]

Ppl use it primarily to remove the hollowness of their space bars

[frosty coral]

cld u give me a link or a vid to some1s jade pro wooting thats been modded

that i cld use as like what to go for kinda idk

bc i was ab to buy geons

[dusty wren]

did they come factory lubed? the pros

[tropic urchin]

Yeah, I hand lubed mine once I got a better switch puller and it gave it a fuller sound than stock for me

[worthy rover]

my jade pros showed up out of nowhere I love the sound but the rgb

[tropic urchin]

It’s not too bad if you don’t use white/yellows, tachyon mode already kinda nukes your RGB regardless and what you can use anyway

Could be better for sure

[glacial wind]

it's one of the biggest mods you can do

[worthy rover]

I use like light pink so it immediately turned that cyan

[glacial wind]

sound wise space bar mod is more noticable than basically everything else you can change besides switches

[tropic urchin]

The purple/pinks are a bit darker as well

[frosty coral]

what r some good keycaps that go w the black tofu60

[worthy rover]

for spacebar and bigger keys i also added some painters tape to places i can it helps with the hollowness

at least till foams come in

[dusty wren]

did u wipe the factory lube off

[worthy rover]

100% recommend i agree that its one of the most noticable things you can do

[frosty coral]

imma just put tissue in it

[dusty wren]

or just lube directly on it

[glacial wind]

this conversation is way too zoomer, i leave it to you guys

[tropic urchin]

No, I just put more krytox on spring and went a little overboard on the stem for some keys

[tropic urchin]

Y u be ageist

[dusty wren]

okay thank u

[frosty coral]

no shot im buying foam that im never gon use

for a spacebar keycap

u guys have dedication

[worthy rover]

you’ll use it all the time

[cedar gate]

Can you just cut up the stock foam for that I don't use it

[dusty wren]

hey i was planning to return my alumaze and buy an optimum instead

[glacial wind]

i don't think he realizes space bar foam is precut with sticky tape and costs like $1 lol

[dusty wren]

can i get a discount on the optimum case if i own a 60he already

[tropic urchin]

As in the foam I got or just any generic foam

[worthy rover]

at the price point of this keyboard 1$ foam is like nothing too

[cedar gate]

Like the stock foam that came with wooing can I cut that up?

[frosty coral]

what does tape mod even do.

[cedar gate]

Makes it deeper

[worthy rover]

you can hear the difference in wooting channel

[cedar gate]

Highly Recommend

[frosty coral]

what ab the burger mod or whatever

[cedar gate]

Changes the feel

[tropic urchin]

Oooh, I see. Maybe? You’d need to have a way for it to stick underneath tho, which is why I like the precut since it has an adhesive underneath so it stays in place

[frosty coral]

link me it

[polar girder]

What?

[cedar gate]

Makes it softer and bouncer

[polar girder]

Tape mod does not make it deeper

[frosty coral]

okay yea im not doing burger mod

[cedar gate]

Yeah I noticed tape mod gets more of a thock

[polar girder]

It reflects. Don’t absorb

[frosty coral]

cant think of any good mods

[cedar gate]

?

[polar girder]

Dafuq

[cedar gate]

That's just in my experience

[polar girder]

Ok

[cedar gate]

With and without after testing I think it's deeper with

[worthy rover]

i feel like after tape mod the keyboard sounds fuller less hollow and more deep?

[frosty coral]

my keyboard rn is

tofu60 black
tofu60 foam
wob keycaps
jade pros

no mods

fuck do i do

spacebar sounds like shit

some parts of the keyboard sound godlike

[cedar gate]

Yeah I would try tape mod or burger mount

[frosty coral]

some parts sound awful

[cedar gate]

Also steel plate SUCKS

That's why