🔧│keyboard_modding

[hollow heart]

i have but all my choices apparently are cheap and bad :(

[hybrid cairn]

i thought that was a whiskey flask with a wire plugged into it for half a second there

[tawdry tree]

Alright, then you have to force it without forcing it, if that makes sense.. 😂

[tropic urchin]

Nah just my DAC, that would be funny tho 🤣

[hybrid cairn]

listen some more my friend, patience is key in this kinda thing. after u got a list, verify with people who are experienced, and repeat until you get the one you think on average sounds the best to you

[hollow heart]

yeah im not gonna order any just yet, like i said ive got till like january 13th

and even than no reason to rush it im already spending 165 and im probably gonna buy a metal case later too

[hybrid cairn]

yeye, lots of time for trial and error, testing and learning, i can say firsthand i was probably the biggest headache the great people in here have experienced in a while

so dw about anything

[hollow heart]

sounds like me xD

i ordered a 60 he and than immidietly cancelled it and ordered a 80he

[hybrid cairn]

:p

[hybrid cairn]

lmao same thing happened to me, i waited about a year for them to make a baord with arrow keys and finally ordered a 60 cause i js gave up on it happening, not even a week after they released a teaser saying they were making a new diff board so i cancelled and started waiting again lmao

[fickle breach]

got it

[hollow heart]

im a little annoyed cause i cancelled it hours later but they still shipped it :(

[tawdry tree]

without breaking your case?

[fickle breach]

guess we will find out when i put it back LMAO

doesnt look broken tho

[hybrid cairn]

thats wild, i cancelled mine like a week after ordering it, ig its because mine was on backorder when i purchased mine

[tawdry tree]

[hollow heart]

ahhh, im hoping return wont be any issue they said it would be totally covered though

[hybrid cairn]

probably, woot is a great company and all of their members, both official and in discord, have been pleasant, quick, and understanding

[hollow heart]

definitely seems like it, they always have responded same day to emails

[tropic urchin]

Jade pros sound so much better than my fake pros 😭😭😭

[hybrid cairn]

anyways enough shilling haha, i wish you luck on finding the switch/board combo you were lookin for!

[hybrid cairn]

how do you have fake pros???

[tropic urchin]

I made a Frankenswitch: raw stem + top housing + jade max spring and deng god bottoms (closed) and I tried to create my own Jade pros

[fringe bay]

So from a pure try hard esports standpoint. Which switches should theoretically be the best? Have scrolled through this channel and reddit for days and TTC KOM RGB / TTC uranus esports get recommended a lot.

🎮

[tropic urchin]

Mostly depends on the value you place on sound and less stem wobble. Performance wise is a wash. If you want a box stem, TTCs seem to have theoretically the best stability. Non box stems currently RAW/Jade Pros

[orchid fulcrum]

any recommended stabilisers for 80he?

[polar girder]

Stock

[fringe bay]

So what someone mentioned was the stronger the spring the faster the switch will go back from pressed down position to unpressed position which as he noted was for him noticeable as a improvement response wise.

[hollow heart]

this makes me want ttc switch now

[sacred harness]

What keyboard case would go good with this color combo and setup:

[hollow heart]

i think its a solid combo

im all for a simple black case

[fringe bay]

As i can see that reduced stem wobble would give better feedback and therefor potentially improve performance. RGB gets deactivated on all my devices as soon as i unpack them and i don't care at all about sound (probably a very unpopular opinion on this Server please don't judge me )

[hollow heart]

check out ttc poms

[tropic urchin]

If you’re interested in the TTC lineup, I’d ask Sno for his thoughts he’s recently switched over to using the TTCs for his build

[knotty iron]

Brand TTC aka the brand she told you not to worry about

[stone flax]

lol

if u think u died because u were on 14mm springs and not 21mm springs thats a different level of cope

"noOOooOOO my springs werent long enough"

[fringe bay]

I guess its just my itch. Speed running the Same Level of a Game for the 10.000th time just to etch off another few milliseconds from the last Personal Best.

[red briar]

Harder spring does indeed have faster spring back times.
But you need to apply more force to actuate it and honestly, how much precision and speed can a human finger have...
A ps2 connector keyboard that uses interrupt is more ideal if one needs something more instant than usb polling

[stone flax]

bru everyone knows this

longer spring same bottom out unless tensioned differently means stronger return and higher preload

im just saying its cope to think going different level springs is the difference made here

[sacred elm]

depends

[stone flax]

if he's comfortable thats fine but if he's sacrificing that for perceived performance improvements then its so troll

[sacred elm]

longer spring is actually W in some games, for example in osu or other rhythm games

[stone flax]

ceteris paribus

[sacred elm]

[hollow heart]

https://www.amazon.com/KPREPUBLIC-Magnetic-Mechanical-16in1-x1/dp/B0DLFKG9FB/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2YNWIYJ84TJXH&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.dzIds3RS9g_CRtJ5sQRLSijIqlnlu5x5Nqr_-slnj5hcq8GfbsynOr7retbtuVHqeaBppjaVUs2FrhS3iWX69U2AoTsLXL49WcIgJXhK14NJSneBzzHpxa7poqI8RNXyAn-YL6WqshSJhVMCl-4aZRcw-MrM8k61OTZqTEJNvG_Q3zWZ1T8QHw1AHzuqfCH3kpDnNG1fvbKFudDi7DvwMawwBL_4iYsx_g_4tBWyrjYTQYWjlNcMID-mhpEyenbVqMun6BrCh1i-vTNpN3srXA-Boc8aH_15ZGkfoYXjRtI.st0K1IuTmyyviCrXpDiGakXBsMAWqT9p5IGBT0P0Ryg&dib_tag=se&keywords=TTC%2BMagnetic%2BSwitches&qid=1733445946&s=electronics&sprefix=ttc%2Bmagnetic%2Bswitches%2Celectronics%2C64&sr=1-1&th=1

[stone flax]

what a beautifully long link

[hollow heart]

thoughts on this to see how i like the switchs?

yeah ikr

[stone flax]

its a mighty fine link

[stone flax]

buy it return it, dont expect to have a fully developed idea for how typing or gaming will feel like

even disregarding potential batch and switch variance

pressing on one switch gives u the experience of.... pressing on one switch

[hollow heart]

xD

yeah i think ill try it out

[robust ridge]

Anyone know the best grey backlit keycaps to match the ghost case?

[gaunt plume]

If you can buy an Everglide Master Switch or Everglide Skyline Switch, try it.

[glacial wind]

Why on earth are people still recommending black knights in this day lol

There’s lekker v1.5/2 now, you don’t need to go black knights anymore - they’re basically black knights sound already if you just have a stock wooting

[polar girder]

Yeah black knights are just oiled up black lekker v2’s

They’re fine but there’s no reason to go out of your way for them

Unless you want black lolz

[stone flax]

there has been hejin teals since the dawn of time

[sage flicker]

is it true heavier keycaps are harder to keep keys pressed down? Like holding wasd in a game would take more energy than holding lighter keycaps? Holding down a heavier object = more energy.

[tawny spoke]

Does switch orientation matter?

[agile grove]

yes

just put the switches north tbh (unless you have iso, in which case the enter key is oriented differently)

if you put them in south facing the RGB will be very dim, plus there’s just not really a reason to put them in south

[fringe bay]

Wow there are so many Options. I haven't even heard of those until now. According to the Specs it has longer Spring and improved "Bottom magnetic flux". So maybe its even Better than the Uranus esports ??? But TTC is marketing the esports as ... Better for esports

[tawny spoke]

Oh lmao, my previous switches on the wooting were south facing so I put my new switches (geon raw he) south again

[glacial wind]

The ttc Uranus esports is a budget ttc magneto that sounds worse

They basically just made magneto but minus the stem swap gimmick and with slightly less tight tolerances

It’s why they’re cheaper than the pom/rgb magnetos and sameish price as regular magnetos

[fringe bay]

So if i don't care about sound or RGB and just want the best performing switches the "TTC Full POM Magneto" should be "The Best"?

[glacial wind]

either Pom or rgb

They’re same mold

[fringe bay]

or are those all so close that i should wait for independent reviews

[glacial wind]

rgb is better rgb, pom is smoother, take your pick

[fringe bay]

i mean the POM sounds nice in the marketing material they say i never have to lubricate them

[glacial wind]

That’s a bunch of bs

[fringe bay]

xD i knew it

[glacial wind]

you’d still want to lube

pom is smoother but it still benefits from lubing

I know since I actually have the poms

[inland sparrow]

anyone knows anything about using car dampening sheets instead of the regular foams for sound dampening ?

[fringe bay]

Hmm so that's why i never saw the Uranus Switches in the comparisons. Those are budget switches. Now i finally found the switches i want to order . Until in 2 months even better ones get released

[inland sparrow]

cant find much into on it

[dreamy drum]

https://tenor.com/view/imma-head-out-head-out-peace-out-im-out-bye-gif-1024137443333831485

i swear to god this is what they’re doing with my switches rn

[hybrid cairn]

honestly i commend the effort

[tropic urchin]

was more for science, but im glad jade pros went on sale

the goal has been achieved

[hybrid cairn]

hell yeah

[sacred elm]

bro did all that to become jade pro ambassador

[hybrid cairn]

a worthy title for a man of his caliber

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/chameleon-food-gif-5182027

[hybrid cairn]

rn im tryrna calc out what spring weights i need to buy to make cerakeys work

which is so hhard

[tropic urchin]

@sacred elm should I add Maya X to it as well

[sacred elm]

https://tenor.com/view/noooo-twitch-emote-twitch-emote-7tv-gif-3053074376810035456

[sacred elm]

60g springs should be fine except spacebar

80g is recommended afaik

[hybrid cairn]

im tryna get minimums, i wna get the TTC KOM rgbs and they said that they thinkkkk that the 35g initial weight springs in those would be enough to hold a 1u normal keycap

[gaunt plume]

Why do many people like Raw HE, Black Knight, or a switch that combines these two?

[hybrid cairn]

so the hard part comes from calcing spring weights for the rest of them

[red prism]

Rebuilt my wooting

[sacred elm]

bro is calcing springs for cerakeys

meanwhile me with 10$ keycaps

[hybrid cairn]

yeah im tryna make an endgame so i dont have to do this ever again, or at minimum another 5-10 yyears

[hybrid cairn]

very clean btw, loving the minimal white on black with cyan light blue lighting, reminds me of alienware if they werent ass

[sacred elm]

yea for 10$ keycaps not bad

[polar girder]

Yeah

That’s what I do

For case

[glacial wind]

No one likes black knights really these days. They’re an old recommendation from back when we only had lekker v1

Black knights at the time were basically for people who wanted lekker sound but tighter stem

as far as the whole frankenswitch thing - people just like making frankenswitch to see what fits together without being too tight. Some combinations work better than others

[weak idol]

🥵

[stone flax]

frankenswitch

but yeah black knights recc makes as much sense as a raptor recc nowadays

their housings with raw stem can make a good open bottom tho

better tolerances

tight tight

[knotty iron]

mj

do you have a min

[static tendon]

Is Optimum’s Wooting case limited edition?

[glacial wind]

Yeah

[static tendon]

Dang, I wasn't aware

[velvet canyon]

is it possiible to make a 60he sound like this??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTxIY2iTCCY

[tidal frigate]

How much money do you have

[velvet canyon]

erm depends ahah

[tidal frigate]

HOW MUCH

[velvet canyon]

i mean the 60he would be 250 i think aud for me

maybe 100-150 aud?

[sacred elm]

forget thock

[tidal frigate]

Welll....

I told him that already

https://youtu.be/6lp_kJNGPyI?si=U_spEJQbAdUmdQC0

Thats nearest to thock

[velvet canyon]

yeh that sounds nice

do u need to replace switches n stuff tho?

[tidal frigate]

That's atleast 350€

[velvet canyon]

including keyboard.,..?

[tidal frigate]

Including everything in descrip with module

Tho

Lube switches

[static tendon]

Honestly it's mainly those keycaps. They look like SA profile, it instantly gives it a similar sound

[velvet canyon]

what .. how can keycaps change the sound??

[static tendon]

Won't sound the same but it'll sound similar enough

[velvet canyon]

i thought it was switches, tape orsmth and foam?

[tidal frigate]

Those are pbtfans

[static tendon]

Those keycaps are really tall and bulky, it makes this unique sound

[tidal frigate]

Everything can change keyboard sound

[static tendon]

Doesn't have to be the same brand or anything, just need to be "SA" profile

[tidal frigate]

They are not sa

[velvet canyon]

this is so complicated ahah

[static tendon]

you can prob buy a set for like 20$

[tidal frigate]

Those are cherry profile

[static tendon]

Which profile are these?

I can bet that it isn't

I'll look into it, brb

[velvet canyon]

i nearly bought a nuphy keyboard the other day i think for 170 aud it sounded amazing, looked sick too however i feel as tho wooting is supreme ahaha'

[tidal frigate]

Look in video description

Look

Lube switches

Tapemod

And it should be fine for while

[velvet canyon]

what tape do people use?

[static tendon]

https://divinikey.com/products/maxkey-white-on-black-keycap-set-doubleshot-abs yep, SA profile

[velvet canyon]

a while?

so is modding not a one and done thing?

[static tendon]

@velvet canyon those keycaps alone will give you a similar sound but they sit very tall

[static tendon]

It certainly can be

You can lube your switches/stabs and never touch your keyboard again

One and done

[velvet canyon]

perchance u play valo?

[static tendon]

I play fort, not val

[velvet canyon]

i need soomeones opinion if theyve gained a edge with the software for valo

[tidal frigate]

Can you read

[static tendon]

Certainly

[dusty wren]

hey i was wondering if the stock stabs for 60he+ are good enough or should i get new ones

[static tendon]

That's how I found them in the first place @tidal frigate

[tidal frigate]

https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-doubleshot-wob

Do you see?

[static tendon]

Those were not the one's used in that video. These were https://divinikey.com/products/maxkey-white-on-black-keycap-set-doubleshot-abs

[tidal frigate]

Mate

[echo drift]

How can I turn on my wooting keyboard

[static tendon]

Take a closer look, these are without question the keycaps used. You can even see the SA profile

[echo drift]

Wooting 80HE

[tidal frigate]

We are talking about thocky wooting

[static tendon]

Correct

The keyboard here though, it is not a wooting board

[tidal frigate]

And whats keycaps are used in thocky wooting video

[static tendon]

The keycaps help make that thock sound from the SA profile

[tidal frigate]

Mate

[static tendon]

I'm referring to this video. Since @velvet canyon was asking if it was possible to make a wooting 60HE sound something like this

[tidal frigate]

You cant acheave full thock on fucking wooting

[leaden rain]

these keycaps do not look good

[tidal frigate]

Because they are shitty ali keycaps

[static tendon]

I don't fully disagree but these keycaps will without question deepen the sound since they are SA profile

[tidal frigate]

[static tendon]

Doesn't need to be this brand, just to get a sound more like this, SA profile will do it

[tidal frigate]

Mate just tell him get cherry profile pbts because not everyone likes sa

Also i'am 100% sure sa are not compatible with wooting

[static tendon]

I also don't disagree with that but to acheive a sound more similar to the one in that video with the SA profile keycaps, that will be the best bet in achieving that deeper sound

[stone flax]

never lol

[stone flax]

these look bad

[tidal frigate]

@static tendon man did you mod wooting?

[static tendon]

Not really a fan of them either

[static tendon]

Ya

[glacial wind]

tl;dr to original question is no. You cannot

[stone flax]

imo stop chasing sound that u cant chase

type on a board

lmao

im gonna pull my skin out

now

[glacial wind]

you can do some minor stuff that will make it deeper but you won't enter anywhere near the realm of that original video with a wooting

[tidal frigate]

Well you get close but not fully thock

[glacial wind]

you won't even get close

[unborn pilot]

i wanna buy the Tofu60 Redux case and it says "Add Compatible Plate for Wooting 60HE" do i neeed to do that?

[glacial wind]

the sound signature doesn't exist in HE switches so you can't get the base requirement for it

[stone flax]

do you want a different plate material

[unborn pilot]

not really

[stone flax]

then no

[unborn pilot]

ok thank you

[glacial wind]

the closest you can get is if you want to sacrifice accuracy and do pe foam mod which has issues with messing with the sensor accuracy

[tidal frigate]

Brass plate, gummy oring mount maybe?

[glacial wind]

no, no and no.

none of these will get you the original video sound

you need a thocky yet marbly switch which doesn't exist in HE keyboards

you can throw 1092829 minor mods at it to make it deeper but the sound profile will never be close

[tidal frigate]

Well thats obvious

You cant get "thock" everyone wants

[sacred elm]

[glacial wind]

don't give them false hope by recommending mods to try match up to non HE thock

[stone flax]

what?

[glacial wind]

they'll just waste tons of money and time and get nowhere since that sound signature is impossible

[stone flax]

no

[sacred elm]

brass plate sounds the opposite of thock

[stone flax]

huh even then pe foam sounds more like its own thing.... what some people consider poppy 🤢

[tidal frigate]

Well i told him he can try but he will never achive that

[tidal frigate]

Really?

[glacial wind]

the problem is people come in asking like blank and people recommend so many random things to try then 3 months later they realize none of it worked lol

[stone flax]

what?

no way

[glacial wind]

we should just be upfront with them and say it's not possible to have that sound

[tidal frigate]

Did it really happend?

[glacial wind]

yes look at blanks old posts

he's been chasing thock for god knows how long even after i told him he can't get it

[stone flax]

we need to ask bigsly

[glacial wind]

then only recently he realized he got nowhere with it and gave up

[stone flax]

he knows what thock is apparently

and it means still not havign a board youre happy with after god knows how much shit you stuffed inside it

[tidal frigate]

Maybe he need tougsten case

@glacial wind numpad advocate?

[glacial wind]

yeah

[tidal frigate]

@hybrid cairn have you tried making toungsten case? Only way to findout if you can achive thock in 60he

[stone flax]

mmmmm how to make my wooting creamy thocky like the lil shoosh video

someone please tell me

also is it better to use painters tape or is duck tape fine

[tidal frigate]

Why not both

[stone flax]

also i dont wanna buy new switches but what do you guys thick about $40 car dampening material in the case

i want to use both burger mount and gummy-oring because i heard theyre both good

whats the best stabilizer? I dont like my current stabilizers

all things i saw today

W

[glacial wind]

uh oh we need to reset mj

[tidal frigate]

TODAY?

[glacial wind]

quick get him on the uwu train again

[stone flax]

ya

[tidal frigate]

Well it would be atleast 5k € but we have to findout

[sacred elm]

electrical tape

[stone flax]

whats the perfect amount of layers of tape to put behind my pcb

im thinking of anything between 2 to 7

[tidal frigate]

What about medical tape

[sacred elm]

if you want thock at least 10

[hybrid cairn]

ive considered it, unfortunately i think it might actually just rip a hole through whatever i put it on lmao, also itd be for the 80he, and ive given up on thoccy 80 until they make a switch for it, ive tried long enough

[hybrid cairn]

;-;

[tidal frigate]

Just get good wooden desk

[hybrid cairn]

i dont think those exist and can be standing for under 2-4k

[tidal frigate]

...

Get higher desk

And rise chair

[hybrid cairn]

nah standing helps me a lot

both with posture and js productivity

annd sitting with bad posture also js kinda blows

[tidal frigate]

How much kg you can put on desk

[hybrid cairn]

idk kg so lemme go to conversion rq

[tidal frigate]

And tell me how much kg do you have on desk

[hybrid cairn]

no clue but not a lot, and max kg seems to be arround 68

[tidal frigate]

68?

[hybrid cairn]

ye

[tidal frigate]

That's sus

[hybrid cairn]

wachu mean by that

[tidal frigate]

What desk do u have

@hybrid cairn

[hybrid cairn]

secretlab magnus pro

[hybrid cairn]

helloooo

[tidal frigate]

It has 120kg max weight

[hybrid cairn]

it does?

[tidal frigate]

Yes

[hybrid cairn]

OH

I READ IT WRONG

AHAHAHHA

[tidal frigate]

So you are fine

[hybrid cairn]

yeah new conversion says 120kg lmfaooooooooooooo

[tidal frigate]

Well

Now

[hybrid cairn]

yeah so now i gotta go buy hella tungsten, get someone to cut it for me and or get it casted somehow just right, and all that fun stuff

would probably cost me hundreds if not thousands

for the meme that is thocc 80he

[tidal frigate]

Add weight of every object bolted and put on desk

And it you will know how much is left

Tho tungsten 80he would be like 10kg atleast

[fallen pecan]

nah tungsten not the play, go for osmium

[tidal frigate]

He cant afford osmium

[hybrid cairn]

honestly

more lmao

[fallen pecan]

dont say that, he can if he tries hard enough

[hybrid cairn]

bruh that shi is like 15k a bead bro

even if i could id wouldnt do that

osmium is super useful

wouldnt wna use so much for a keyboard lmao

[fallen pecan]

useful when making a thoccboard

[hybrid cairn]

ahahaha

[tidal frigate]

You want achive thock

[hybrid cairn]

i did want to achieve thocc

but im putting dreams on hold

until they make a thocc switch

[tidal frigate]

[hybrid cairn]

literally but hey its gna happen eventually probably

[tidal frigate]

Like when

[hybrid cairn]

eventually

whenever that is

[tidal frigate]

Pay 500k for some uni guys to create thocky he switch

[hybrid cairn]

at that point id rather design one myself, imma js go the patient route and wait on it, keeping it on hold while i make an absolute monstrosity out of my 80he cause why not

[tidal frigate]

5usd per switch

Ok i go to shadowrealm

[hybrid cairn]

alr peace man, lmk if you meet yugi down there

[tidal frigate]

See you soon thock people

[hybrid cairn]

yknow what bad dreams to you

[dusty wren]

hey i was wondering if the stock stabs for 60he+ are good enough or should i get new ones

[glacial wind]

they're good enough. you can relube them if needed

[dusty wren]

okay cool

[stone arch]

@glacial wind you know alot about keycaps?

[glacial wind]

i know some about keycaps, i don't know what you mean by knowing a lot about keycaps

[stone arch]

iv always used gmk caps but wanna get some PBT, do you know what brands make GMK quality doubleshot pbt caps? cherry profile*

[glacial wind]

signature plastics, although most of their stuff isn't the popular cherry profile

[stone arch]

ya looking for cherry

[glacial wind]

if you want just decent quality doubleshot pbt look at wuque studio keycaps, pbtfans (icon mod option since their legends aren't as well printed on mod keys)

osume do decent quality too but theirs are dyesub

[stone arch]

i was about to pull the trigger on a osume set till i saw they were dyesub

[glacial wind]

honestly nothing wrong with dyesub, it's perfectly fine and i don't even care whether my set is dyesub or doubleshot these days as long as it's decent quality dyesub

[stone arch]

iv heard dyesub legends can get blurry overtime, true or no?

[glacial wind]

if they're shitty quality ones maybe, but good quality dye sub is fine

[stone arch]

the reason i wanna try something other then gmk is because i dont like the shine they get

okay maybe i will try some osume if i cant find anything else then, thanks!

[glacial wind]

i've have 3 sets of dye sub pbt here along with my doubleshot sets and they've all been fine. The only thing I stay away from if I want quality is the really shitty aliexpress type dye subs

[stone arch]

oh ya no im not looking on aliexpress for anything lol

do your dyesubs vs doubles shots feel/sound any diff from eachother?

[glacial wind]

nah unless you turn them over you can't notice

although pbt in general can sound different from just the composition and thickness of the pbt

so it's more on that vs. dyesub and doubleshot

[stone arch]

i actually like the wuque BOW so i might try those 🙂

[glacial wind]

wuque bow are great for a basic set

[stone arch]

also wanted some pbtfans xrays but missed out on them

[dusty wren]

just confirming the regular prebuilt 60he+ i can take out the pcb and plate and treat it as if it were a module, correct?

bc i dont want the case or the keycaps or the switches

[stone arch]

yes but why not just buy the module

[dusty wren]

because it comes late jan 😭

i was plannign to get that but idk how to get it by christams

[glacial wind]

yeah you can. I just swapped a prebuilt 60he+ to have a pc plate, friction mount silicone and screw in stabs

you end up with a lot of extra stuff vs. just using the module though lol

[dusty wren]

wait the prebuilt he+ comes with a clip on stab??

idk the term

but the one thats not screw in

[glacial wind]

yeah

[dusty wren]

plate mount

oh

bruh

[stone arch]

@glacial wind wuque and pbtfans both have a BOW set that look the same, which brand would you guess is the better buy

[glacial wind]

the plate mount were fine though. was no rattle in mine at all

[dusty wren]

howcome u replaced them

[glacial wind]

wuque have better legends

[stone arch]

noted

[glacial wind]

because i already had all the other bits and pieces

[dusty wren]

i see

[knotty iron]

the stabilizers I currently use have this issue where they move back and forth quite a lot. perhaps it was the tolerances on them, no amount of lube was able to fix them. it was the WS v3.1 1.6mm PCB mount.

My question is which stabilizers have the least amount of wobble that are both compatibl;e with the 60HE+ or 80HE?

not rattle, wobble.

[stone arch]

@knotty iron i was doing alot of research the other night and went with the typeplus x yikb but you can prob fix your issue on the stock stabs by tuning them

according to alot of people the knightv2 and typeplus x yikb are the 2 best

[knotty iron]

I am also using the Raw HE switches, because they are long pole will that be an issue?

[stone arch]

no, i thought so aswell but you should never need long poles appearntly

[glacial wind]

that's how stabilizers are. They're supposed to have some movement. The tightest for movement would be the typeplus right now, but a lot of people prefer the knight v2 feel over them because some find the movement too tight

[knotty iron]

I just dont know if this is normal

[glacial wind]

that's normal

[knotty iron]

it even happens when the spacebar is placed correctly (yes it's backwards, personally more comfortable for me)

[stone arch]

that would annoy me aswell

[glacial wind]

your stabs aren't there to hold your key 100% with no movement

all stabs will have some amount of wiggle

otherwise it will feel awful

[sacred elm]

i dont see an issue there lol, mine does the same and probably for others too

[glacial wind]

you can lube to make them sound nicer etc, but all stabs will still have some amount of movement unless you wanted to end up in a vice grip that will feel super friction and stuck all the time

[sacred elm]

i never even noticed that while using the keyboard normally because you dont move spacebar back and forth like that

[glacial wind]

i have 3 keyboards in arms reach right now, 1 with tx ap, 1 with knight v2 long pole, 1 with knight v2 regular - all of them do this

[knotty iron]

sorry but i just plain disagree. plain and tsimple this is the most wobble i have ever experienced, I was just hoping maybe there wouild be another option with sliders or railguides or something to at least keep it from moving back and forth

[stone arch]

to that amount? my stock wooting ones arnt even that bad

[glacial wind]

3 keyboards. 3 different stabs with 3 different switches

all of them have wobble

and these are all some of the highest unrated 3rd party stabs tuned well

there's no bad sounds because i lubed them properly and balanced the wires but they still wobble

[stone arch]

maybe it just looks worse in vids then it does irl

lol

[knotty iron]

maybe the wobble bothers me because of the backwards spacebar

[glacial wind]

he's 100% overanalysing and thinking this is abnormal when it's totally normal for all stabs to wiggle

[sacred elm]

I know

we are trying to tell this to aerobrake

[knotty iron]

well it's not bothering me as much but it does tend to dig into my thumb much more

[robust dagger]

tx ap v4s are goated

[knotty iron]

again i know stabs are supposed to wiggle but i felt maybe it was too much

[knotty iron]

tf that's so much less

[robust dagger]

gmk spacebar hittin

[stone arch]

thats closer to how mine look

[robust dagger]

yeah just lubed balanced and made sure spacebar was straight

[glacial wind]

all stabs will wiggle a different amount. some more, some less, some will have more lube etc

they're not there to keep your space bar wiggle free

[knotty iron]

yes i have also tuned this spacebar at least 3 times and I can't seem to get it right

[fluid ravine]

Heh mine over 0% tune

[robust dagger]

also make sure you remove those stab pads they are straight trash

my spacebar sound was hella uneven and got the pop back after removing those

[glacial wind]

tighter switches also change the wiggle a bit

for example my 80he space bar wiggles less than my other keyboards because it's on ttc kom pom

[devout totem]

Gateron jade max ftw

?

[glacial wind]

please no.

[devout totem]

But they sound so good

[glacial wind]

in exchange for feeling awful

[knotty iron]

my 80HE spacebar seems to be fine, it's just myt 60HE+ one that seems to be really bad

[glacial wind]

different switches, keycaps, etc can all change how much it wiggles

[knotty iron]

raw he 50g for both

[glacial wind]

for example my 60he+ stabs feel a tad sluggish just due to the keycaps being a little more warped since i bought a cheapie aliexpress set for them

[knotty iron]

stock black shinethrough wooting pbt

[glacial wind]

there's a lot of factors

end of the day though it's not up to the stab to fully hold the keycap stuck in place

if it bothers you that much then go buy some tighter stabs, but there's no guarantee you won't then have issues with it feeling too stuck

with 60he+ you cannot use type plus stabs btw

so you're basically choosing knight v2

[knotty iron]

thank you

[devout totem]

Left to right: Jade Pro bottom and stem max top and spring, Jade Pro, Jade Max, TTC RGB, Geon Raw

[glacial wind]

we know what they sound like. the problem is they feel awful compared to other switches

[hybrid cairn]

ttc rgb sounds like a type writer, its gna be fun to build with

[sacred elm]

so u have all those switches and use maxes

[dusty wren]

do yall like dashes or pros or raws more

[fluid ravine]

Raws all the way

[stone arch]

@glacial wind why do you say typeplus wont work on 60he+ ? people already use them on it

[fluid ravine]

Then pros

[sacred elm]

jade pros are improved version of og jades/dashes

[devout totem]

I can't walk away from how they sound the unadulterated rgb

[glacial wind]

because they're a tiny bit tight for the holes and it's hit or miss whether they work

[dusty wren]

what makes them better than pros

[hybrid cairn]

ttc rgb gaming for peak performance or so im told

[sacred elm]

price, thats it

[glacial wind]

we've had reports in here of some getting it to fit, some not getting it to fit etc. They're just not recommended due to this, similar to the tx ap stabs

[fluid ravine]

Idk SHI abt ttc but I'll learn abt them later on

[dusty wren]

o ya what about sticky rice v2

[hybrid cairn]

o k

[stone arch]

on snap i didnt know that

[glacial wind]

junk

buy them if you want a box stem that's less stable than non box stems

[dusty wren]

oh 💀

[glacial wind]

there's a reason they're so cheap yet barely bought

[dusty wren]

i see

i was plannign to get pros

[stone arch]

hopefully mine will fit

[sacred elm]

get them, if current price isnt too much for you, they are great

[fluid ravine]

Yeah like shafie said price is the main factor, it's A LOT cheaper than the pros, feeling wise, raws have a slight better stem tolerance. Rgb diffusion on raws are better because well it's a white switch without any major tints. Sound profile wise, preference base.

[sacred elm]

well, jade pros have less stem wobble so thats not actually true

but its so little difference

[glacial wind]

it's tricky to talk tolerance because there's top and bottom tolerance

[fluid ravine]

Dead ass?

[fluid ravine]

That's true

[sacred elm]

jade pros have better bottom wobble

[dusty wren]

lowkey i wanna lower the price bc like 570 bucks is crazy but i dont wanna skim on the switches

[sacred elm]

slightly

[hybrid cairn]

yeah, so fractionally that it doesnt rly matter

[glacial wind]

i think the raw he might actually have tiny bit tighter top but jade pros are tiny bit tighter bottom

but difference between 2 is so meh that just buy whichever and you'll not notice lol

[hybrid cairn]

pause

[fluid ravine]

Ok that would make better sense ig

[fluid ravine]

Ok buddy 😂

[hybrid cairn]

its a reflex at this point i cant stop it 😭

[fluid ravine]

[glacial wind]

i noticed they sound different on space bar too in 80he in particular

[flat cobalt]

And sound

[sacred elm]

jade pros 😎

[flat cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/marisa-kirisame-touhou-2hu-fumo-no-cap-gif-13806368453610023751

[dusty wren]

is the plate that comes w the prebuilt good

like i dont wanan spend more on another plate

[glacial wind]

are you talking 80he or 60he?

[dusty wren]

60he+

[glacial wind]

it's a little metal but it's fine

stock prebuilt is steel plate

[dusty wren]

what would be diff if i switch the plate

in terms of feeling and sound

[stone arch]

stiffness and sound

[glacial wind]

softer feel and a little bit less metallic sharp sound

[polar girder]

i think if i switched to jade pros and swag knights that might be a decent upgrade from black knights and module stock stabs

tempted by typeplus and magnetos now tho

[flat cobalt]

swag

[polar girder]

fk

[sacred elm]

stick to black knights for that thock bro

[dusty wren]

ohh

[sacred elm]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-minions-popcorn-day-laugh-gif-5026739

[dusty wren]

ima js keep the steel

[stone arch]

thock on a wooting

[flat cobalt]

I got the staebies since they’re all black I think

[polar girder]

i know right

[dusty wren]

is there any foam or anything on the inside

[glacial wind]

yeah

prebuilt has all the foams etc already

[hybrid cairn]

how reasonable is it to learn how to type the weird keyys like "!@#$%^&*()" with blanks within a year

[dusty wren]

but if i switch it to alumaze case will the foam fit w that

[hybrid cairn]

yees

[flat cobalt]

yeh all black stabilizer

[hybrid cairn]

do stab colors matter?

[dusty wren]

okay then thats good

[flat cobalt]

To some yes

[polar girder]

depends

[dusty wren]

is the foam enough or do i still need more

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BBCZBVZ3?psc=1

[polar girder]

lolz

[dusty wren]

like should i buyy this then or na

[flat cobalt]

The darker colors are thockier and the lighter colors creamier

Jkjk

[polar girder]

that replaces the foam you can't use both

but that's what i use

[hybrid cairn]

is it more of a "cause i know its there" thing or is it cause some colors bleed thru keycaps

[dusty wren]

is it better than the foam

[flat cobalt]

Basically lol the I know it’s there part

[dusty wren]

likke what would be difff if i used this vs foam

[polar girder]

define better

it just absorbs sound differently

[hybrid cairn]

gotchaaa, why u gettin new stabs?

[stone arch]

just changes the sound but there is no way to know what it will sound like untill you try it. sounds changes based on many things

[polar girder]

i tried foam, polyfill and kilmat and just ended up preferring kilmat

[hybrid cairn]

ive never heard of kilmat before

[polar girder]

cuz bored

lolz

and black

[hybrid cairn]

lmao fair enough

[stone arch]

i just got the typeplus yesterday cause also bored and black

[hybrid cairn]

if the woot stocks are still bad after lube i might get some whites ones so they dont bleed thru the spacebar of ceras

but the ceras are gna take foreverrr to get back in stock

[dusty wren]

like i meant do u prefer it sound wise

[polar girder]

yes

[dusty wren]

how does it sound diff

[polar girder]

that's why i kept it

[dusty wren]

yea lmao i realized

[hybrid cairn]

you should choose for your preference not someone elses tho

[polar girder]

yeah keyboard mod is all about trial and error

just gotta experiment

[dusty wren]

ya true but i wanna kjonw someone elses opinion on it cs i dont wanna pointlessly buy another thign

[flat cobalt]

Just wanted fully black stabs for when I get my cosmos keycaps and also ordered a black GT80 case for the 80he I just wish there was a black plate for it

[polar girder]

it's not pointless if you learn

[hybrid cairn]

or be like me and theorize everything and be wrong most of the time causing giga headache for others to have the least error and trials :D

[hybrid cairn]

gotcha, js wna go all black in and out kinda thing? fair enough

[flat cobalt]

Yeah except for the outter keys I ordered some wooden keycaps for that

[hybrid cairn]

ooo wooden keycaps, havent heard about those in a while

what kinda sound profile do they lean towards again?

[flat cobalt]

I’m gonna find that out tomorrow as well lol

[hybrid cairn]

lmao gamba time

hopefully itll sound good

[bold hornet]

anyone know where to get clear keycaps?

[fallen pecan]

taobao if youre in these countries, aliexpress if not

[hybrid cairn]

is taobao better than aliexpress?

what is taobao

[fallen pecan]

chinese amazon

direct from the source

[hybrid cairn]

ahh

chinese amazon is in murica too?

wild

[fallen pecan]

like-amazon, not acutally amazon

[hybrid cairn]

yeye

like how aliexpress is like chinese etsy

i think

[flat cobalt]

Are you ordering a Mousepad?

[fallen pecan]

etsy was i believe originally for handmade/small businesses

ali is temu but less scuffed

[hybrid cairn]

alrighty

sounds good to me cause i gta buy hella stuff from ali soon

[polar girder]

No I’m chilling

I have Saturn pro XXL

Don’t need more and don’t want smaller

Tempted tho

[flat cobalt]

I don’t really use those fancy pads myself, but the fact that they’re gonna be extremely limited though catches my eye

[hollow dagger]

Why would you do that to a jade pro

[devout totem]

Faster rebound and better rgb

[hollow dagger]

fair enough

You enjoy the jade max in itself right?

[devout totem]

I do but as others have mentioned some don’t feel as smooth when pressing slowly from an angle. Not noticeable when typing normally or gaming, you really have to look for it to notice it

[dusty wren]

should i get white pc plate or black

[ionic breach]

is ur keyboard darker or lighter

[marsh saffron]

Black plate >>>>>

[dusty wren]

darker

its gmk norse w the alumaze black

[marsh saffron]

Even for white builds black plate is just superior

[dusty wren]

ok bet

how so tho i was js wondering

[marsh saffron]

Black plate best

The way it complements white builds is just 👌👌👌👌👌

[hybrid cairn]

i dont think youre gna see a difference when you turn on the rgb though lol

[marsh saffron]

It does still make a difference

[hybrid cairn]

does it?

[marsh saffron]

Yeah

[hybrid cairn]

how so?

wouldnt black absorb more of the leds light

[marsh saffron]

Makes it look like there's a void beneath my keycaps

[hybrid cairn]

making it dimmer

[glacial wind]

You can spot it through the keycap holes

I changed mine to black played recently too and you can notice

[hybrid cairn]

even with the leds on? interesting

would a white plate reflect back and out more light?

making it appear brighter?

well rather than brighter ig a plate whos colors look like they match the rgb of the led

[marsh saffron]

It probably doesn't come across on camera at all, but in person even with brightness up it's very clearly a black plate beneath it

Yeah the camera makes it too blurry

[hybrid cairn]

yeah i gotta squint like reallyyy hard to make it look like its even a gray-ish color under there

[marsh saffron]

In person you can very clearly see the black plate

It's just the camera washing it out

[hybrid cairn]

gotcha

so black if you want that floating on void look, white if you want it to look like the keycaps are floating on light look

[marsh saffron]

I also combine it with darker led brightness so it's even more obvious

[dusty wren]

wait how many keys are on 60 he

[marsh saffron]

Can't wait to see how black plate looks behind my x-ray set

[marsh saffron]

61-64 iirc

[dusty wren]

ok

[marsh saffron]

If your looking at switches just get 70 pack

[dusty wren]

i did

[hollow dagger]

I share the same sentiments. I just hate how it's always at the back my mind when I have them on

[untold wigeon]

Yo any1 here knows what would be ultimate 60he+ build when money doesnt matter?

[glacial wind]

step 1, go buy a unicorn 60% case for like $2k or whatever it is

come back when you've done step 1

[glossy pagoda]

Design files for 80HE (finally) uploaded!
https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-design/tree/main/wooting-80he

[spice plover]

which one is it lol i cant even find it

[crimson sky]

Has to be an r1 as well

R2 has a different mount

[glacial wind]

perfect, that will make it even pricier

[crimson sky]

Not pricier but harder to come by

Duck eagle v1 would also be a good pick for that

Might actually not be too bad for you

[glacial wind]

step 2 is go pay $5k or whatever that guy wants for that new stabilizer design he has

[crimson sky]

Nah

I use 6€ cherry stabs with c3 wires in every build

[glacial wind]

he wanted the ultimate money is no object wooting. I'll have to find that site that sell gold keycaps

[austere creek]

wouldnt step 1 be a fully custom milled osmium case

[crimson sky]

If they cause issues that ks a skill issue

[crimson sky]

Heavier does not necessarily mean better

[glacial wind]

but it might mean pricier, tony has a point

[austere creek]

well we wont know until they tried

no one has ever used a full osmium case

[glacial wind]

how do we get some nasa materials for a gh60 case

[austere creek]

maybe the sound is actually quite nice

[glacial wind]

moonrock

[austere creek]

idk if anyone tried a full titanium case

[crimson sky]

I'd imagine it to sound quite muted

[crimson sky]

Yes

[austere creek]

damn

[crimson sky]

But titanium ain't that dense

[crimson sky]

Was a really cursed thing

Tiamo iirc?

[austere creek]

im aware its not dense but i thought it might make a nice sound change

[crimson sky]

Was a jane v1 bottom with a matrix 1.2 top

Iirc kalam wanted 2.7k for the titanium version

[spice plover]

hey anyone here wanna play marvel rivals?

[austere creek]

#🎮│game

[spice plover]

well i meant like WHILE modding the keyboard mid game

so had to post it here

@glacial wind i want sno

[chilly mural]

YEEEE

[jaunty latch]

New CF plate from aliexpress, let’s hope the cuts are accurate enough and it fits nicely 🤞🏼

[exotic inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/good-boy-dance-gif-25381375

[analog mulch]

anyone know a good store in europe to lube switches?

[chilly mural]

Only 6 month of wait at least

[sage rampart]

Full whitez

[left depot]

like a store that sells lube or you wanna send them over and have them lube for you?

[analog mulch]

i dont really know how to lube and im afraid to mess them, so i would like them to lube for me

if possible

[left depot]

most switches come pre-lubed if thats maybe what you're worried about. I dont personally know of companies that provide lubing services for switches

[fallen pecan]

ive only seen companies that sell switches that they say they lubed themselves

[analog mulch]

okok, thank you then

[little glen]

If you have the right tools and everything it‘s pretty easy and simple

First time i did it i just followed a tutorial video by wooting and everything went well

[analog mulch]

maybe ill try it

[jaunty latch]

I’ve ordered some new switches and I plan to try and lube them myself for the very first time, from what I’ve read it’s not hard just time consuming! Give it a crack bud

[radiant plover]

do yall reckon the lekker v2 are worth the 25€ difference if i got them instead of v1?

already got a v1 based 60he but i'm building one for my friend

[long matrix]

[left depot]

v1 and v2 is a big upgrade, 1.5 to 2 not so much, but in the end its up to you

[radiant plover]

worth to lube v2? i'm assuming that v1 is better than v2 when lubed though

[glacial wind]

v2 is definitely a big step up in stability vs v1, although personally for the price i'd buy raw he or similar instead

i got a newer 60he+ with the better switches recently and they blow my old v1s out of the water as far as stability go

[radiant plover]

maybe its better to go with v1 for him then

[glacial wind]

well don't buy v1, where are you even finding v1

or do you mean you're giving your old v1 to your friend?

[radiant plover]

another thing; i want a thocky feel for my personal so tofu 60 redux + pc plate + raw he/gateron jade, lubed stabs and switches ob will it thock

[stone flax]

lol

[radiant plover]

they are on the site ?

[glacial wind]

oh yeah don't buy those unless you want to make frankenswitches or something

v1s are awful

i wouldn't wish v1s on my worst enemy

[radiant plover]

v2 are not in stock and bro goes to the military in early january so i need to get them quickly

is that so i have them D:

[flat cobalt]

Is that Roxy

[glacial wind]

grab raw he locally

what country are you in

[radiant plover]

finland

https://wooting.io/product/lekker-switch-linear60?Size=12+pack

[stone flax]

Geon raw he

Raw he

Geon

Raw he

Deltakeyco or prototypist or aliexpress or kbdfans

[glacial wind]

https://deltakeyco.com/products/geon-raw-he-switch

oh wait they're sold out lol

maybe prototypist then

[radiant plover]

where do they ship from on prototypist?

[glacial wind]

oh prototypist is sold out too lmao

[stone flax]

@radiant plover

[long matrix]

Yup sure is

[glacial wind]

yeah just aliexpress/kdbfans then

[stone flax]

UK

[radiant plover]

fuck if i would not be in a rush this would be easier

maybe they get here before christmas if i order now..

[glacial wind]

how big a rush are you in?

[radiant plover]

well if i got the switches in like a week it would be ideal

[glacial wind]

you could do amazon maybe for jade pro, but jade pro are a lot pricier

[radiant plover]

how do the geon raw he compare to the gateron jades?

[glacial wind]

better than the old gateron jades

on par with jade pro

[radiant plover]

should both of them be lubed too?

manually

[glacial wind]

they can be, but they're both factory lubed already

so it's a more 'if you're particular then you can hand lube it more' deal

[radiant plover]

would it be most likely worth it tho, v1 are lubed too though

okay

ig i'll get the geons then

[glacial wind]

well the thing with v1 is they're awful as far as current switches go, they're super wobbly

[radiant plover]

does that show in the keycap itself kinda wobbling or is that a bad keycap itself? i have the v1 with kbdfans pbt caps and it wobbles quite a lot

or just in overall feel

[glacial wind]

both

keycap will wobble more because the switch is wobbling more

and you know that chattery plastic sound you get from your keyboard? That's due to the v1s wobbling

[radiant plover]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

[glacial wind]

so when they go back up you hear the switch wacking around

[radiant plover]

now im getting kinda excited for the geons then

is tofu 60 redux still the meta too?

[glacial wind]

sure it's a fine entry level case

[radiant plover]

i'll do just a whole new build with cerakeys and geons

i dont know any good cases besides that tho

[glacial wind]

is this for you or your friend lol

[radiant plover]

im giving my old Tofu to my friend as well

since it's the color he wants and its not in stock rn

so i'm upgrading myself as well

[glacial wind]

the new optimum case is nice, but not in stock for awhile

[stone flax]

Geon raw he

[radiant plover]

i would get the optimum case but i have a lot of grey in my setup already so i'll go with black or dark green for contrast

I'm kinda between this one kbdfans case where its cnc and has some holes in it kinda like the beastx iirc but i havent looked into if its in stock still

and tofu

[random hull]

might not have paid proper attention when reassembling my geon raws after lubing, can i put on the top housing the wrong direction or does it only go one way. not sure if i have the logo facing south on each of them

hm i think as long as i see the loose plastic window on the switch it should be good, if i had put it on incorrectly that one wouldnt be visible at all

[stone flax]

leggera clears

🥱

100 yuans resin60 clears

[glacial wind]

if you're ocd then you'll notice the stems on the geon raw he have a little notch too

[stone flax]

the stem nub?

[glacial wind]

and there's no way to tell which way around that goes because some of them come stock with the notch one way and some of the stock the opposite way

[random hull]

hmm

[glacial wind]

i remember looking at it when i was lubing mine lol

it doesn't matter which way the nub thing goes though

[flat cobalt]

That’s good to know

[random hull]

ah okay lol, yeah tbh im just worried i dont put the housing on wrong or that i end up misplacing the switch in the wrong direction because of it, if that makes sense, cause i kept seeing that warning paper with the 80he that it can cause damage 😹

[glacial wind]

not that this didn't stop me from making all the nubs face the same way

[random hull]

any harm in putting in switches into the module when its not in its case yet or is it better not to

[stone flax]

into “the module”

what are u referring to specifically

as in just the plate and pcb assembly

?

[random hull]

yeah

its not in the case yet

probably a dumb question, just not sure if i may end up pressuring it too much without the case to support it

[stone flax]

ur fine

most people do it that way

[random hull]

alright

[worldly igloo]

hi any suggestions for keycaps?

custom i mean

black/white or both

for 80he

[fallen pecan]

black topo

lemme find a pic

[left depot]

depends on what you like, there's no wrong answer

[worldly igloo]

i dont know abt switches i mean I've now just razer hunstman mini original ones

[worldly igloo]

price?

[fallen pecan]

20~30usd if you can find them on aliexpress

[untold wigeon]

can you make ur wooting wirelesss

[fallen pecan]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006140335949.html

[tidal frigate]

You can but you will lose warranty

[untold wigeon]

how do i have warrenty

[left depot]

wait you asked about keycaps and now switches? what are you looking for now im confused

[tidal frigate]

You would have to mod your pcb

[untold wigeon]

like how do i get warrenty

[left depot]

by buying the item

[untold wigeon]

oh arl

alr

[left depot]

https://wooting.io/policies/warranty-return-policy

[untold wigeon]

i thought like razer where you have to give your id or smth

[worldly igloo]

keycaps mb

[untold wigeon]

at razer theres a code on your keyboard you have to give on the website

[tidal frigate]

No

[left depot]

yeah so for keycaps there's so many options, as long as they fit the switch any will do. So just look for something that fits your vibe and go for it

[untold wigeon]

i needed to do that

[tidal frigate]

You cant have warranty qnd wireless wooting.

Choose one

[worldly igloo]

how to check fiting?

[untold wigeon]

i choose wireless

[fallen pecan]

get a keychron then

[untold wigeon]

no

[tidal frigate]

Then you need to figure out how to mod pcba to add wireless

[tropic urchin]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/ take some time and see if any of these keycap themes fit your build

Can maybe find some inspiration and see if you can limit it down to what you like 🙂

[untold wigeon]

as the battry

battery

and i just need to remove the usb c

[left depot]

if it says chery profile it fits, should show on the website page of the keycap set

[tidal frigate]

You know you need big battery

[untold wigeon]

i can buy one

[tidal frigate]

He sensors are power hungry

[fallen pecan]

you void the warranty once you mod the pcb

[untold wigeon]

i dont need it

with the power of money

[fallen pecan]

no problem then

[fallow relic]

but why do some keycaps have like oem and some are cherry and some are SA, or ASA. And the wooting doubleshot pbt's are OEM?

[tidal frigate]

@untold wigeon show your results mate if you do it

[untold wigeon]

bet i will

[tidal frigate]

Just do 2.4ghz

Bt will be horrible

[untold wigeon]

agree

but first i need to find out more

[tidal frigate]

About what

[fallow relic]

so profile and shape/size are different?

[tidal frigate]

No

[fallow relic]

what

so if I get cherry keycaps

[tidal frigate]

Those are switches

[untold wigeon]

on how to do it

[tidal frigate]

Then you have cherry profile

[fallow relic]

what does the 80he come wiht?

what do I need to look for if I want custom keycaps

[fallen pecan]

most caps on the market will fit a wooting

[stone flax]

asa, oem, mt3, cherry are profiles —- all referring to keycaps that have cherry mx standard stems

theres an mx standard for keycaps

but profiles refer to their shape, height, scultping

[tidal frigate]

You have shit ton of keycaps profiles

Whats your budget for keycaps

[fallow relic]

ok so for wooting I can basically use any profile, because they'll probably fit on it?

[fallow relic]

depends on how much I like them 🤣

[stone flax]

A shit ton of aftermarket caps youd find are for cherry mx stem standard

Ur unlikely to find caps for alps or topre etc.. without specifically looking for it tbh

[left depot]

yeah I think there was some miss communication or use of some terms. What I was trying to tell them is that they should just check for the keycap set theyre looking for to see if they fit the switch profile

[tidal frigate]

Well telling how much you are willing to spend so i can direct you to right place

@fallow relic

[fallow relic]

80eur?

im not sure if thats a lot for keycaps

or too little honestly

all ive read up about it, is that doubleshot pbt's are more quality than dye sub

[left depot]

with anything keyboard (or anything in general) things can get as expensive as how much you wanna spend

you can buy a set for 20 bucks, you can buy a set for 200

[tidal frigate]

Then look first on alexotos vendor list, then if you cant find anything look amazon and aliexpress

[gray vapor]

For those curious, I tried the magneto TTC switches and did not like them at all. Even hand lubed they were very "sterile" feeling. Just very weird key feel and sound. I have gateron jades (hand lubed) on my 60he which are great. Switched to factory lubed geon raw for the 80he and they are much better in sound and feel. I got the 40g ones

[fallow relic]

what is GMK? on hios list

[stone flax]

Plastics manufacturer from germany who also do keycaps

[stone flax]

eh nah

[fallow relic]

isnt it that doubleshot last longer

[fallen pecan]

dye sub pbt > double shot pbt

[stone flax]

in what way

[fallow relic]

like it getting disproportioned after a lot of use

[stone flax]

disproportioned?

[fallow relic]

yeah idk maybe im misremembering

[stone flax]

Theres a better word for whatever youre trying to say

[fallow relic]

most definitely

[stone flax]

Wdym exactly

what way do you say doubleshots last longer

[fallow relic]

like in the wayu they lose their texture

thats what I read about

because theyre double shot

and dye sub are made somehow worsely with sublimination

[stone flax]

all keycaps have texture loss unless theyre already glossy to begin with?

they get smoother over use and time

[stone flax]

huh

[devout totem]

The plastic can wear but not the legend

[stone flax]

yeah

[fallow relic]

maybe thats what was talked about in the article

[stone flax]

These arent uv or pad printed legends lol ur legends last

[stone flax]

and how is the physical blanks deforming a byproduct of dyesub?

[fallow relic]

i have no idea

[stone flax]

so uh

where did ur assumption come from even

[fallow relic]

a forum i read

[stone flax]

well imma go with no

doubleshot doesnt last longer just because a forum told you it did

Decades old dyesub set ^

[tidal frigate]

Does it fit wooting

[fallen pecan]

those are og cherry caps

ofc theyll fit

[fallow relic]

can i send links here?

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/AJAZZ-X85-Mechanical-Keyboard-Wireless/dp/B0CZCTQS7T?crid=3E4JY0SC3TB96&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.4ZS9T6VQy9V3O7Sumd1q4U771B21onEmsE2CTFL2dMa6REekG1g8RV0i3KNewDKWm-CGy_pFuG7qjebaddnWJtCpj_GVqQFTOA0ySQYTAnfwHY-UuQNK8EaFA03dKVPJR3F9DY0uvrQqH0k8_1JWB-ovFoylj3cVJbAUd02PaDGNNWCbHQ51s5zAbutfRDps.J3ICS0zbW-kgx2xLBrkCfxIZQDJAmaWAIfzvMHICKqg&dib_tag=se&keywords=doubleshot+pbt+keycaps&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1733496278&refinements=p_72%3A419117031&rnid=419116031&sprefix=%2Caps%2C160&sr=8-240

like how do I know if this fits for my wooting

what do I have to look out for here?

this one exactly probably wont work because its for a 75% and not a 80%

but what else

[stone flax]

how do you know if a keyboard fits another keyboard?

[stone flax]

Oh ur talking about keycaps

look for the proper kitting

[fallen pecan]

Theyll fit if they have this underneath

[stone flax]

It wont

Ur missing the proper nav keys and bottom row

If ur on ansi u need ansi bottom row w/ 6.25u + nav cluster

[covert pelican]

Is it fine to use a hall effect board like Wooting in a keyboard with o-ring friction mount?

I keep thinking that the soft typing experience will affect the switch accuracy

[quiet bay]

Yes

[stone flax]

Venom would do better

[covert pelican]

you mean the PCB?

[stone flax]

Yes it has cutouts on the pcb so that gummy-orings fit better

[covert pelican]

I see, so it's meant for o-ring mount so it has cutouts already. Performance is still as good as tray mount though, right?

[stone flax]

Yep, it can also bas center udb support alongside the gummy o-ring

[covert pelican]

I keep thinking about whether to get the tray mount or the o-ring mount version of the case to use with the Venom PCB

[stone flax]

of what case

[covert pelican]

frog mini leggera

[stone flax]

id say o-ring

[covert pelican]

It should work well with HE right, I thought HE needs the PCB to stay still to work best

[stone flax]

no

you are conflating flex with bounce

flex can introduce actuation fuckiness

bounce does not

You can also opt to still use standoffs for the oring version

So either way theres no issue

[covert pelican]

I understand the concept of bounce, bounce is that the whole thing (PCB+Plate) moves up and down
While flex is that a part of the PCB combo is bent down

[covert pelican]

I totally forgot about the standoffs, I was afraid the switches at the corner would be popped out by the oring as well

[stone flax]

yeah not an issue if u plan to use standoffs

ur good dw :>

[flat portal]

quick question is there a certain cable spec that is compatible with the tachyon mode?

heard around that longer cables dont work with em

[sacred elm]

longer than 2m not recommended unless its coiled

[worldly igloo]

Hi Gateron Jade switches changing rgb? I mean you can see well or badly

[tropic urchin]

Normal jades should be ok, Jade pros has the green ish tint to its upper housing which can make lighter colors look a little more blue/green

Their feel and sound outweighs it for me, but everyone else’s preference will be a little different

[worldly igloo]

I cant pick other than those r?

[sacred elm]

wooting only sells those for now

[worldly igloo]

I seen ppl testing like Jade Max/Pro etc they they ordered it separately?

[worldly igloo]

oh

[sacred elm]

you can order module and get switches separately either jade pro or geon raws

jade maxes are not good

[worldly igloo]

I don't know how to mount it in terms of switches. Will it be problematic for such a person? Is it easy to mount?

[sacred elm]

its so easy, you just put them in and thats all

[worldly igloo]

oh

Ty for help

[tropic urchin]

@worldly igloo if you want the Jade pros you’ll have to order off Gateron directly or Aliexpress/amazon