🔧│keyboard_modding

[hybrid cairn]

ahh unfortunate

[glacial wind]

so don't ping them lol

[hybrid cairn]

ahh

^but this

[glacial wind]

yeah but they don't do official support via discord

[hybrid cairn]

is not very good forr my conscious

[glacial wind]

for example, imagine you're sleeping at 4am and you get a random ping from someone here asking you a random question about your day job at the office. Now repeat this 30x

[hybrid cairn]

that is in fact very true, where arre they based again?

[glacial wind]

it's not about time, it's that discord isn't for official support and any time they spend here is bonus and not on the clock

[hybrid cairn]

yeah ik, js wondering is all

dw no pingings of the glaring metal issue shall occur

imma js have a marginal anxiety attack until someone who knows something answers me

[glacial wind]

i think you're overthinking it and you need to stop

[hybrid cairn]

but that metal corrodes very easily or so im told with and without coating

according to sceicne and the people who work with it

(yes i asked both )

[glacial wind]

yeah but there's also 100 videos saying you should invest in the new hawk tuah crypto coin

[hybrid cairn]

okay but those are subjective

this is metal

[glacial wind]

doesn't mean it's something you should worry about

[hybrid cairn]

real

and i asked the peoeple who know about the metal itself

and the people who work with metal

[glacial wind]

at this stage you're over researching and freaking yourself out

[hybrid cairn]

but the research has led me to answers

the answers are bad

[glacial wind]

then your research is bad

[hybrid cairn]

cause i spent a lot of money for the case

[hybrid cairn]

plz show me the better reeseearch, idk how much better i can get from the guy who knows the sceince and the other 2 guys who works with it

[fallen pecan]

spent or planning on spending?

[glacial wind]

knowing about science isn't a standard of measurement or skill

[hybrid cairn]

spent

[glacial wind]

everyone knows about science, it doesn't mean what you know is right or wrong

[hybrid cairn]

as in he works with chemicals and the like

also that doesnt help the people who work with the metal

D:

[glacial wind]

you ever see star trek before?

[hybrid cairn]

one said they had some work made out of zinc alloy that literally fell apart in their hands

coating was the only thing holding it together

[hybrid cairn]

no

[glacial wind]

okay well, there's this episode where one of the crew gets an issue that causes them to start overanalysing everything and they somehow end up with a conspiracy that aliens are taking over their ship

in reality they were just overanalysing and drawing conclusions that didn't exist

[hybrid cairn]

okay but that again leads to subjectivee over analysis without evidence

there is evidence

here

[glacial wind]

this is what you're doing now. Your metal case is not going to fall apart

[hybrid cairn]

the science of the material

and the experiences of the people who worked with it

[glacial wind]

okay well then i cannot help you any further. good luck.

[hybrid cairn]

D:

):

[tight musk]

what mods do I need to do to make my 80he really really creamy

so far I've already accounted in the tape mod, car insulation material

the jade pro switches

[stone flax]

when did you get your 80he

[tight musk]

haven't gotten it yet

i get it in January

[stone flax]

ahh yes

theory crafting and chasing sound for a board yet to be experienced

[tight musk]

yeah ig

[stone flax]

have you used or tried a board youve found to be creamy before then?

[tight musk]

nope i see your point

alright thanks ill sleep on it

[flat cobalt]

I genuinely want to hear a creamy keyboard now

[stone flax]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711913638193004556/1300554769336635493/creamy.gif

[flat cobalt]

@fluid ravine link me to a creamy keyboard sound profile

[fluid ravine]

you got me

right?

[stone flax]

cream cheese is perfect imo

[tight musk]

hell yeah

ill try that

ill add in some lube too

just pour a whole jug of it

aint a party like a

[bold hornet]

anyone know some good transparent keycaps for the 80he?

[signal ridge]

Depends on ur budget

https://www.gloriousgaming.com/en-de/products/polychroma-rgb-keycaps

https://amzn.eu/d/ap15wT5

U could also take a look in #1070668460905988106

[hybrid cairn]

I GIVE UP ON THE THOCC DAMNIT

I CANT

FOR THE LIFE OF ME

GET IT GOOD

is sno sleeping rn i dont wanna ping him if hes asleep

[chilly mural]

unless he's taking an afternoon nap, prop not

[hybrid cairn]

alrighty

[fluid ravine]

it should be morning

[hybrid cairn]

@glacial wind

[hybrid cairn]

oh nice

[fluid ravine]

im guessing it's close to 12 pm

[hybrid cairn]

alrighty

[hybrid cairn]

oh btw

did u get the dm

or know anything about that

if not thats fine

[fluid ravine]

oh mb

doing hw rn

lemme check

[hybrid cairn]

ah alg i get the feeling

[polar girder]

lol

It HE bro

What thock

[hybrid cairn]

i tried so hard and got literally no where lmaooo

[polar girder]

A fool’s errand, my brother

That’s why I’m just chilling

Lost steam to test plate materials or swap stabs

Cuz HE just mid for thock or quiet deep tones

[glacial wind]

i recall telling him this months ago or whatever it was when he started

[fluid ravine]

guess i was a absolute FOOOL back then

lmao

gave up and embrace the clack

[chilly mural]

clack, as long as it sounds crisp

[fluid ravine]

yea

my clack sounds shit

[chilly mural]

I want my clack to be clackier

[fluid ravine]

i want like a "stronger" or fuller clack

[hybrid cairn]

oh ma goodness you remember me?

im honored

[hybrid cairn]

yeah ivve now officially quit lmao

until they release a designated switch

i gib up

[hybrid cairn]

what was that peak performance switch you were talking about? it was the TTC KOMs in this vid right?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7K9XCUQdM0

but the rgb ver ones

[glacial wind]

Ttc Kom rgb/pom version

But their clack is extremely loud and high pitched and will be too loud for some folks

[hybrid cairn]

yeah

my sister liked it so

imma js get those

she said it sounded like something shed fall asleep to

which is good cause my laptop is like

very annoying

and loud

so win/win

[hybrid cairn]

did they need lube to be good btw?

plz lemme know if the one in the vid is accurate to what you know they sound like irl, its at 3:00 iirc

[glacial wind]

yeah it's not a bad representation, although it's even louder in person

[hybrid cairn]

eh loudness aint an issue

[glacial wind]

lube wise they do benefit from lube, but that's up to you whether you want to hand lube or not

ttc do not do much stock lubing

[hybrid cairn]

my laptop, alienware (gross ik, i didnt have a choice), is on a laptop cooler thats basically a jet engine, and my earbuds block a surprising amount of noise, even more when playing sound

[hybrid cairn]

by benefit from lube do you mean like they have to or else the friction is too much and they sound / feel bad or as in its js a sound preference thing

[glacial wind]

no switch requires manual lubing these days

whether the sound difference for hand lubing is worth it for you is a personal pref

[hybrid cairn]

my sis liked it more stock ver in the vid so as long as it doesnt affect performance or feel i think ill js leave it as it is

it also saves me like 50 bucks

[hybrid cairn]

@glacial wind ummm do you know where to find those TTC switches before in rgb? i found these but not only do they look sus as hell, the pom one doesnt even have a real switch in the img from what im seeing. also do they make a pom rgb? (idk what pom is)

https://mechkeys.com/products/ttc-full-pom-magneto-magnetic-switches?variant=46440194736351

https://mechkeys.com/products/ttc-magneto-magnetic-switches?variant=46303835717855

[sage flicker]

cool new switches lol. I was wondering...return speed kinda matters for typing right? I was thinking lighter keycaps mean faster return speed, no? I'm thinking of maybe I should switch off metal keycaps to flat ones again, lol.

tradeoff really. Heavier keycaps mean lighter actuation though, but also maybe worse for bottoming out impact force.

lighter keycaps = faster return speed and less bottom out force

but that's just a theory

[hybrid cairn]

i mean if wooting js make the switch reset on release

[honest nacelle]

ttc switches are currently market best for stability/tolerance tightness, and the POM and KOM RGB are real switches

POMs are renders for now (idk why since they do exist) but I'm sure you'll get more pictures of them once they start selling

[chilly mural]

wink wink

[sage flicker]

new switches come out so fast by the time you install it, a new one arrives.

lol

[hybrid cairn]

i know thats why i wna get em (no lube tho kek) and my little sister likes the sound so thats the main reason im getting em, i js cant find a place that doesnt look as sus as that

unless theyre actually reputable and js have terrible web design

[honest nacelle]

mechkeys is fairly reputable

[mighty condor]

a

[honest nacelle]

support is kind of a nightmare but they do fulfill

[hybrid cairn]

wachu mean by that

[honest nacelle]

like

mechkeys support are kind of sped

[hybrid cairn]

shhh lemme be purposely obtuse

[honest nacelle]

^ mechkeys support

[hybrid cairn]

gotcha

lmao

[honest nacelle]

but they're reputable

[hybrid cairn]

is there an rgb pom?

also what is pom

[honest nacelle]

not as far as I know

POM is just a TTC magneto with (technically) slightly looser tolerances (also imperceivable, and still better than raws) and just in POM material

so imagine a magneto with the pom attachments

just without the ability to change the parts down the line

[hybrid cairn]

what does pom material do

[honest nacelle]

sounds diff

[hybrid cairn]

how so

[honest nacelle]

also technically self-lubricating

should be deeper

[hybrid cairn]

mc-scuse me

[honest nacelle]

but kom/poms in general are very clacky

[hybrid cairn]

ah tthen its irrelevant, why deeper on the clackiest HE switch ive ever found

[honest nacelle]

pom stem on pom housings are self-lubricating technically

more like dry lube but yea

you get the point

[hybrid cairn]

do they melt eachother

im lost

[honest nacelle]

no

more like

even out each others peaks

[honest nacelle]

its very marginal

some boards have ttc POM switches with it

[hybrid cairn]

ah so unlike the jade maxes they js sand eachother down till smooth again

[honest nacelle]

only one I know of confirmed rn is the a75 ultra

[honest nacelle]

yea pretty much

[hybrid cairn]

gotcha

[honest nacelle]

basically

[hybrid cairn]

47 usd for 36 switches tho

these rgbs

pricey as hell

how many switches are on the woot 80he?

[honest nacelle]

POM normally comes out of the mold kind of rough (comparatively to other materials) and POM on POM just smoothes each other out. To a similar degree POM on anything will have a similar effect, but POM on POM basically sands each other smooth and ends up being smoother than any other dry switch

[hybrid cairn]

so pom is sandpaper that doesnt cause friction with itself

got it

[honest nacelle]

well, no

that's also a self-contradicting statement

[hybrid cairn]

yeah that was the point

[honest nacelle]

POM is just a soft plastic

really soft

[hybrid cairn]

so

it

js

im tryna make an analogy

[honest nacelle]

yea i know

[hybrid cairn]

but my brain isnt giving me anything

usually it js auto correct gives me something by now

this is very odd

[honest nacelle]

as long as you know the basics about material science and what happens when you rub 2 soft materials against each other you probably get it

[hybrid cairn]

i get it but

i am analogyless

welp

it is what it is

[honest nacelle]

it happens to the best of us

[hybrid cairn]

best i got was like

ice

and that aint right

i dont think

this is frustrating

[honest nacelle]

ptfe feet and mousepads might do it

[hybrid cairn]

but that isnt the same material

[honest nacelle]

also sandpaper and literally anything softer than it also works

okay

sandstone against sandstone

(or limestone against limestone)

[hybrid cairn]

basically rubbing chalk together

causing it to disolve

until

no more touchy

AHA

NICE ONE

UR A GENIUS

I FORGOT CHALK EXISTED

[hybrid cairn]

oh yeah btw do u know how many switches are in the woot 80he?

[honest nacelle]

86 switches?

[hybrid cairn]

u sure?

[honest nacelle]

84 is 75%, 87 is f12 tkl, 88 is f13 tkl

hmm

[hybrid cairn]

hmmmm

found an img of the module

[knotty iron]

hi D

good to see you again

[hybrid cairn]

did i count something wrong i got 82

i think i did

imma do it again

[fallen pecan]

83 just google lmao

[tawdry tree]

84 for ANSI

ISO was 85 I believe

[hybrid cairn]

i counted

this is iso

i think

ansi?

idk

i forogt

wtvr

its 84

[tawdry tree]

that is ANSI.

[hybrid cairn]

sweet

[tawdry tree]

ok

[hybrid cairn]

idk the diff

so anyways

its 84

[hybrid cairn]

youu lied to me.

[hybrid cairn]

and thank u for proper info :D

[tawdry tree]

Np but for either ANSI or ISO, just get 90 switches

a few extras is always good.

[fallen pecan]

techpowerup has a typo then

[honest nacelle]

haha hey man

been a while

[hybrid cairn]

its not like i have a choice i need to get 3 of these and they come in 36 packs unless you know of a place that does less

https://mechkeys.com/products/ttc-magneto-magnetic-switches?variant=46303835717855

[honest nacelle]

how tf is it 84

[hybrid cairn]

it is man idk what to tell ya

[tawdry tree]

Check AliExpress maybe?

[hybrid cairn]

is aliexpress reliable?

[tawdry tree]

If you’re from the Eu, then yeah.

[hybrid cairn]

i am in california of the USA so nah

uh

is it unreliable here?

[tawdry tree]

Also reliable I believe

[honest nacelle]

nvm i know why

[hybrid cairn]

sweet

[hybrid cairn]

hm?

[honest nacelle]

wooting just takes up more space for less buttons

[hybrid cairn]

behold, lightbar

[tawdry tree]

Why do you want the RGB Magnetos?

[hybrid cairn]

sister said she likes the sound of em stock and i heard theyre the best performance wise

[honest nacelle]

behold, efficiency

and also a lightbar

[hybrid cairn]

ngl, dont like the colorrs

and the lightbar at the top

idk why it js reminds me of legos

[honest nacelle]

subjective opinion

[hybrid cairn]

it is indeed

thats what opinions are for

[tawdry tree]

TTC’s magnetic all have very little wobble

[hybrid cairn]

isnt that a good thing

?

[tawdry tree]

yeah I mean you can get any and performance will be great

even of their non square stemmed ones

[glacial wind]

you got this one reversed btw. pom is tighter than regular magneto and still has the ability to change parts

pom is just rgb magneto but pom

[tawdry tree]

all their square stemmed ones have a swappable bottom

[honest nacelle]

lemmie go double check that

[glacial wind]

i have them lol

[hybrid cairn]

yeah box stems! though these come in rbg and have the sound profile my sis likes so it wokrs outr

[tawdry tree]

the non square stemmed ones don’t have swappable bottoms tho

[hybrid cairn]

pom is rgb and not this wack render on this site?

[knotty iron]

jar

[hybrid cairn]

that has colors, its not rgb, ive been scammed

[honest nacelle]

that's not the POM then

[hybrid cairn]

jar

[glacial wind]

pom is rgb mold but they made it from pom

[honest nacelle]

thats the POM magneto

[tawdry tree]

POM is POM, RGB is RGB.

[glacial wind]

yes pom magneto.

that's what he's asking about

[hybrid cairn]

D: and here i was hopinh for pom and rgb goodness

[honest nacelle]

yes i'm talking about the TTC POM not POM magneto

[glacial wind]

? what switch are you referring to

[hybrid cairn]

TTC pom and Pom magneto are the same thing

[fallen pecan]

???

[honest nacelle]

nope

[hybrid cairn]

yes

?

[honest nacelle]

TTC POM isn't out yet

[glacial wind]

there isn't a ttc pom, i'm not sure what you're talking about

[honest nacelle]

its meant to debut with the a75u

[tawdry tree]

It is?

[glacial wind]

that's literally pom magneto

you can see it in the a75u pics

[hybrid cairn]

then why are they selling it separately

lmao

[honest nacelle]

POM magneto

[glacial wind]

it's been out for awhile

D is confused i think

[hybrid cairn]

magneto and ttc are the same thing

my guy

[honest nacelle]

yes, ttc makes the magneto line I'm aware

[chilly mural]

I don't like how small that shift and right bottom row keys look

[glacial wind]

the drunkdeer a75u is releasing with ttc pom magneto

[hybrid cairn]

the TTC King of Magnets also known as the TTC Magneto and in pom it is known as the TTC Pom

[glacial wind]

i'm not sure if you're under the impression that ttc pom is a different switch or what

but there are photos of the a75u with ttc pom magneto

[tawdry tree]

They don’t mention Magneto often anymore, just KOM - RGB/POM or just KOM.

[hybrid cairn]

anyways back to rgb

is cerakeys good for clack too or nah

wait can 35g springs even handle ceras

[tawdry tree]

They have a Uranus line as well, but I don’t recall any of them being full POM.

[tawdry tree]

No

[hybrid cairn]

aw man

but wai

[tawdry tree]

Maybe, definitely not the spacebar though.

[honest nacelle]

yes, because they had legal trouble with disney iirc

or whoever owns the x-men franchise these days

[hybrid cairn]

probably dis-knee

[honest nacelle]

and so KOM is just "king of magnets"

[tawdry tree]

LOL

[chilly mural]

since ttc pom is like $100 on its own, I guess that means you get a keyboard for $61

[glacial wind]

yep. it's part of their marketing strategy in china i'm pretty sure

[tawdry tree]

yeah King of Magnetic or something.

[glacial wind]

https://v.douyin.com/iDG6W3Pr/

another video showing the ttc pom magnetos referring to the a75u

[hybrid cairn]

i gotta frankenswitch the spacebar lmao

imagine

[tawdry tree]

Won’t be able to do that with TTC’s switches.

Unless you mean just spring swap?

[hybrid cairn]

frrick

[hybrid cairn]

yeah

[tawdry tree]

Ah yeah, that’s possible.

[hybrid cairn]

i js call everything opening up the switch itself frankenswtiching

albeit technically wrong

spring swap surgery

imma SSS it

[tawdry tree]

IIRC TTC uses slightly different sized springs but KS-20 compatible ones still fit.

[chilly mural]

Fuwee, too much.

[tawdry tree]

Ah

[glacial wind]

honestly melgeek are crushing them in china right now

outselling pretty much all of the other options right now, besides maybe mad60 which just sells absurd amounts because it's dirt cheap

[fallen pecan]

madlions 150k+ sold on 2 platforms

[glacial wind]

yeah the mad60 sold like crazy lol

[chilly mural]

ttc kom with 16k scanrate, waow

[fallen pecan]

melgeek is at like 60~70k

[glacial wind]

i'm curious to see how the a75u sells, but their reputation isn't great and the price is really high so i dunno about this move

i don't know why you wouldn't buy a melgeek over it

[chilly mural]

RIP drunkdeer, made84 pro seems like a better deal from the looks of it

[glacial wind]

by far. drunkdeer hasn't proven to know how to make decent software yet

[hybrid cairn]

woot best ftw (i have used no one elses software before)

[glacial wind]

they haven't even finished their g75 software and seemingly have just given up

[fallen pecan]

they had a livestream on the a75master a couple days back

obvious they gave up on their old stuff

[glacial wind]

yeah typical chinese company jsut rushing out models and abandoning when it has issues with firmware/software

[fallen pecan]

$234 for the master, probs 179 for the ultra

[glacial wind]

that's some absurd pricing

[fallen pecan]

full alu + tempered glass on the top

[chilly mural]

179 for the ultra with ttc pom

[glacial wind]

what's melgeek84 priced at in china?

the made pro 84 that is

[fallen pecan]

made68ultra is 179 converted

pro is 124

[glacial wind]

yeah no way drunkdeer can compete there

everyone would just buy the melgeek over them

[chilly mural]

mmm, soo many new keyboard

[fallen pecan]

looks like this

looking closely it's glass top and bottom

[glacial wind]

so i guess they've been chased out of lower bracket and are now moving to high end bracket

but big question mark still on their software because all their software up till now has sucked

[chilly mural]

ehh, assuming it's +220, why not just get wooting at that point.

[glacial wind]

even as recently as this past month they've been releasing software that bricked keyboards lol

[fallen pecan]

meanwhile the ultra might end up looking like this

[glacial wind]

yeah that's kind of the problem with the premium market and why a lot of brands avoid it

if you go premium then people will just say "go buy a wooting then at that price"

[chilly mural]

my brain hurts, I feel like drunkdeer is panicking

[glacial wind]

and drunkdeers appeal up until now was always "well we know our firmware and software isn't as good but we're really cheap"

trying to flip the switch and go "now we have super expensive cases" is an odd move

but i think mad60 kind of screwed all the budget brands because why buy any of them over a mad60. If they all have scuffed software you'd just buy the mad60 since it's like 1/3 the price

[fallen pecan]

thats why most of them are trying to push scan rates and stuff

you really cant do much on the hardware end at that budget

[glacial wind]

yeah they're kind of stuck now where the price is so low how can they even compete with $20 board lol

[chilly mural]

mad68He flagship is soo cheap, getting geon raw for 80he is about the same price

for me

[spice plover]

Any news on the plate that comes with the optimum review ?

Also any new HE switches coming out that are silent and 4mm travel?

[tawdry tree]

The friction pad?

[tawdry tree]

No.

[jade narwhal]

NO

the current trend is closed bottom with shorter travel

[fallen pecan]

ttc does have marketing that suggest future material combinations

[glacial wind]

i actually wonder how many people would buy the other parts if they put them out

[fallen pecan]

i know i wont, too much work

[glacial wind]

yeah it's already annoying that they don't do any factory lubing

i wouldn't want to relube again after changing the bottom

[fallen pecan]

but you would change out the bottoms

[hybrid cairn]

but didnt u sat the TTC Rgb magnetos didnt need lube for feel or performance increase, only sound?

or did i understand u wrong?

[bronze pine]

Does anybody know nice looking keycaps

[glacial wind]

no switches need lube. I still hand lube all my switches because they sound and feel better with lube

that's my personal pref but i don't expect everyone to have the same

[hybrid cairn]

will the TTC rgb thingies feel bad without lube?

[glacial wind]

they'll feel fine, try it and see and if you don't like it then add lube

pretty simple

[hybrid cairn]

i mean

i pay the dude

to lube for me

cause it takes way too long and rn i have no where to do it

and thats like upwards of 50 bucks

[indigo glen]

I am planning to replace my existing stabilizer with geonworks' designer stabilizer or Type Plus stabilizer. Is it compatible?

Below is the link and of course I will purchase the screw stabilizer.

https://geon.works/products/type-plus-stabilizer / https://geon.works/products/designer-studio-stabilizer

[glacial wind]

if you mean 80he then yeah

[indigo glen]

Thanks

[random hull]

took them all apart last night, hope to get started on it today

[hybrid cairn]

@glacial wind heya, sry to bother ya, but can u measure what size the spring is while its inside your TTC Pom or Rgb? (i assume theyre the same size)

[glacial wind]

? It’s listed on the website already isn’t it

The ttc magnetos are 21mm springs

[hybrid cairn]

nono

i mean

like literally

inside of the switch

as in what size the spring has been compressed to at base inside the switch

[glacial wind]

what, why do you need that

[hybrid cairn]

im tryna F=K(X+P) but i do not have the P cause idk what size the spring is inside the switch

[glacial wind]

this is insane

you do not need this lol

[hybrid cairn]

its just math

[hybrid cairn]

its for cerakeys

:D

tryna see if itll hold

[glacial wind]

yeah but why are you calculating this, we already know the force of them

they will be a bit light for cerakeys and the space bar definitely will have issues

[hybrid cairn]

idk if the 35g switch will hold the, lets say, 8.6g shift key without moving down at all

cause if it does go down at all

performance error and weird looks

[hybrid cairn]

space bar always will have issues, so gna need to get a new spring for that

[hybrid cairn]

also unfortunately they only tested down to 45g switches so

[glacial wind]

they're roughly around 50g bottom out, same as most switches

[hybrid cairn]

imma do the math myself

cause its easy math

[glacial wind]

50g springs do not work well with cerakeys

alphas might be okay but very light press and spacebar will be scuffed

i'm not even sure if you can buy new springs that fit

because box stem springs are a little different sized

[hybrid cairn]

so i

cant js get new spring

then do spring surgery?

[glacial wind]

i doubt it. You might find new springs but they might have issues fitting

[hybrid cairn]

also does that meean the 35g switches will js crumble no matter what

[glacial wind]

they are not 35g switches

[hybrid cairn]

does TTC custom make these springs? wouldnt suprrise me tbh

[glacial wind]

35g are starting weight

[hybrid cairn]

yeah

[glacial wind]

aka initial force

[hybrid cairn]

and i dont want it

to go down

[glacial wind]

which no one uses

[hybrid cairn]

?????

[glacial wind]

everyone lists bottom when referring to how hard to press switches are

[hybrid cairn]

i am misunderstanding keyboard words again

[glacial wind]

and 50g is roughly the bottom out for almost all of these new switches

jades, ttc etc are all roughly 50g bottom out

[hybrid cairn]

initial force is how much is needed to get the thing moving right? i do not want the cerkey weight to make the switch move by itself

[glacial wind]

yes but no one is referring to initial force when we say a 50g switch

the tldr is no you cannot use cerakeys with these

[hybrid cairn]

...

.......

so

hm

and youre sure?

[glacial wind]

if you ask me if i'm sure again i'm blocking you

[hybrid cairn]

;-;

ig ill take that as a no on the spring height in the switch

thanks again for the help

;-;

[glacial wind]

if you want to find different springs you'll have to find the fit yourself

some may work, some won't. There are multiple different sizes of springs for HE switches

[hybrid cairn]

thats true

i wonder why they dont js list spring diameter on the site

[hybrid cairn]

this might be like way too much to ask after all the headache ive put you through, but could you, perhaps, in your free-est of time, tell me the diameter of the spring in the ttc rgb/pom??

[glacial wind]

no

[hybrid cairn]

welp

cant say it wasnt worth a try

thanks tho

[lunar sand]

so you were talking about TTC KoM POM ... someone tried it already ?

[glacial wind]

yeah i have them in my 80he

[lunar sand]

and ...? did you have any experience with the normal KoM that you can compare

or between both, they are very similar either way

[glacial wind]

i've only briefly played with someone elses kom but never used it long term

poms are smoother for me, but the difference isn't gigantic or anything

i did hand lube all of mine fully, including springs, so these are going to be a lot smoother than most peoples koms by default already, before adding in that they're full pom

[lunar sand]

ok, because i just bought the KoM's and ... i today's chat make feel like "ohhh f... " 😄

[glacial wind]

nothing wrong with the regular kom

i would lube them if you're particular about switches though, because ttc basically don't lube at all lol

they do a very very minor and honestly worthless tiny donut dip on the springs and that's it

[lunar sand]

my experience with TTC is from mechanical keebs which my to go switches are TTC Speed Silvers V2 and i hand lubed everything for sure ... and i will do the same for the KoMs ... with time 😄

[glacial wind]

i ordered some gateron jade gaming just to have some sound tests comparisons since most folks going box stem probably picking between gateron jade gaming and ttc magneto for the top box stems

[rugged cosmos]

Hello guys, do i need to reset my wooting after changing switch for jade pro ?

[lunar sand]

I was looking at those gaming jade's too ...

but i got a good price on the KoMs so i went forward with those ... 😄

but keep us posted

[glacial wind]

yeah just replug it and you're good

it needs to recalibrate

[rugged cosmos]

it's automatic ?

[lunar sand]

btw, how do you recalibrate on 80HE ?

i'm going to receive mine

[glacial wind]

yeah your keyboard auto calibrates when you plug it in

or when it powers up

[lunar sand]

ahh ok

[rugged cosmos]

ok thank you so much, now let's do it :D

[hollow dagger]

Enjoy! Those are one of the best switches out rn

[hollow dagger]

How can you have the discipline of having 'some' and not have a full set

[glacial wind]

mostly cause i know these aren't better than the ttc poms i have so i'd never use them lol

i ordered them purely to have some for in-depth switch comparison for the wooting mod site

[spice plover]

All I know is those 4mm lekkar l45s are gated 4mm way better than 3

Like why would someone want smaller actuation?

[tawdry tree]

@hybrid cairn TTC’s springs have a dia of 5.8mm and Gateron’s a dia of 6.1mm. However, 6.1mm springs still fit fine in TTC’s KOM switches so I’d get a couple heavier springs from AliExpress to use with your CeraKeys.

If you want to be really precise and calculate which springs you need. You’ll need to find out the weight of each CeraKey keycap. Not sure if CeraKeys lists those numbers.

[hollow dagger]

You feel like ttc pom is your take on the best switch?

[tropic urchin]

Jade pros are out for delivery

Freedom at last

[hollow dagger]

how is your geon jade god??

or is the build not complete yet

[glacial wind]

i think so but only if you don't hate high pitched noisy clack

[tropic urchin]

I’ve tried it out some the last few days and it’s way too muted

It’s like a chalky black knight sound which im not a huge fan of

[glacial wind]

if that sound is not your cup of tea then i would stay far far away from the ttc switches lol

[hollow dagger]

any sound test?

[tropic urchin]

Unless the Deng god bottoms are truly the worst bottoms in all of switches

I’m stumped

[glacial wind]

i took a video quickie with phone but it didn't emphasize the clack as much as it shows up in real life

[hollow dagger]

black knight is just disgusting

bottomless switches should be illegal

[tropic urchin]

I’ll be 100% swapping my switches for Jade pros, but my stabs are flawless

[hollow dagger]

it's fine, just wanted an idea of how it sounds like

[glacial wind]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message was the video i took before. But the phone video just brings out the thock side way too much

imagine that video but remove the thock echo after each key press, so you just have that really noisy clack lol

basically that's all you hear the whole time you're typing. Just really loud pebbles dropping on marble nonstop

[hollow dagger]

yeah if that's the actual sound profile you're experiencing i'd jump the gun and get one myself

[glacial wind]

it's not that far from the sound profile, but imagine that initial clack is twice as loud and that thocky reverb is half as loud

[hollow dagger]

not bad then!

[hollow dagger]

that's sad

[tropic urchin]

I sent you a sound test of it meo, it’s more muted irl

My homemade Jade pros don’t have clack 😭

[random hull]

i lubed 10 geons and i doubt anyone can ever even tell i did anything lol

idk

[tropic urchin]

That’s not uncommon, RAW factory lube is pretty good. I tried to fully lube one of mine before I made my Frankenswitch and found it did nothing

Maybe put some on the spring and then that should be good

[random hull]

yeah did the springs too

ill prob do em all just cause i dont really mind doing it but.. probably not the best switch to put that time in for lol

[hollow dagger]

Honestly, i expected worse from how you described it

It sounds good!

[random hull]

shame i didnt get in the jade pro thing but thats on me cause i was reading here as it happened and i made the wrong choice lol

i dont really wanna clip the switches into my module yet until i get the spacebar because if for some reason i need to get back to the stabs i dont wanna have to pull out each switch, i heard its a pain and i would like to avoid going through it

[hollow dagger]

kinda gives me jade max vibes, which I'm not a huge fan of but it's not that bad tbh

[tropic urchin]

Jade maxes but without RGB is wild 😭

[tropic urchin]

Could be worse, but def not the end game sound I had in mind

[hollow dagger]

i wouldnt even buy the jade maxes for the rgb

its not worth the headache lol

[tawdry tree]

you don’t have to remove any switches to get to the stabs. the plate comes off with the switches so you can install them if you wanna try em

[tropic urchin]

As an early max pioneer I agree

[random hull]

ohh okay

maybe ill try to get some in later then. i kinda wanna put up some vid here for sound test to make sure im doing it right (as im no overlubing) but kinda hard to get them stable for that without actually pressing them in directly lol

i thought they clipped into the pcb with their little legs?

[fluid ravine]

@quiet bay had your raws shipped yet?

[high sphinx]

Hey guys what are the best stabs i can get ?

[reef lava]

😮 what headache? Are they considered bad?

[crystal pagoda]

the ones you have right now

[high sphinx]

Hey guys i have a question how can i decide if a ticking noice on one side of the spacebar is cause of warped spacebar or caused by the wire cause my spacebar is a tiny bit warped but i am not sure if that is the cause or the wire

[crystal pagoda]

Reverse the spacebar

Does the ticking now occur on the other side

if yes its the bar

If no

Its the wire

Furthermore

Reverse the wire

If now ticking on other side

Then yes

If no then no

[high sphinx]

Ok i did that the sound is still on same side if i reverse space

[crystal pagoda]

So its not the bar

atleast for the ticking issue

balance ur wire

[inland sparrow]

anyone here uses the car dampening sheet (Siless or some other brands) for the foam replacement ?

[tropic urchin]

Pc on pc contact creates extra friction and it’s not a good experience or smooth for $1 per switch

Is the TL;DR

[glacial wind]

I actually wonder what they were thinking doing pc on pc with dual rail design

[crystal pagoda]

money

Is the problem really just slipstick

[glacial wind]

The famous aqua king switches were full pc and known to be super smooth post lube but had friction issues if not well lubed

And they chose the most friction rail system to pair with an issue that was already known with full pc switches

[reef lava]

hmm i see, i dont really feel it at all

[glacial wind]

I feel it’s a combination of both slipstick and the dual rail making friction issues even worse

[fallen pecan]

This is from the gt80 taobao listing, they’re estimating 3 months after chinese new year

[crystal pagoda]

i love gateron

[tropic urchin]

Maxes felt like shit compared to my raws I got. Up to you if you like them still.

They’re fine if you don’t have anything to compare them to, but once you do against other top switches the facade falls apart for them rather quickly.

[cedar kernel]

Varedis have you spring swapped your Geon Raws ?

[tropic urchin]

I swapped them for my max springs

What’s up

[cedar kernel]

I asked a few others here as well but did you notice any scratching/catching at the beginning of pressing the key down ?

They feel like they sorta pop a bit after that they are smooth on the press

[tropic urchin]

Before I made my frankenswitches they felt a little poppier/more responsive with the spring change, but I didn’t notice any scratching or catching

Smoothness has been pretty consistent for mine

[cedar kernel]

Alright thanks, guess I might try to swap spring to Lekker when they come and see if there's a difference

Or if lube makes a difference

Package got shipped today 😁

[tropic urchin]

I’d try lubing, I’m not sure how they’d feel without the Jade springs, but I’d maybe keep their original springs if you can’t cop the new gateron’s without spending a fortune for them

But try it out on 1 and see how you like it first before going too crazy swapping

[cedar kernel]

Yeah of course I'd only try it out on one to see if it even makes a difference, thanks for the info

Probably not gonna buy anymore switches for a while thk

[tropic urchin]

Also I wouldn’t waste your time hand lubing the RAWs I didn’t notice a difference doing the whole thing, but I’d try lubing whatever springs you end up using and calling it a day

[cedar kernel]

Oh you mean only bag lube the spring and then reinstall ?

[tropic urchin]

Ye

I didn’t bag lube mine, but that should be a time saver

[cedar kernel]

Did you do the donut method or just lightly brush the whole spring ?

I got a bit too deep into buying all type of shit for when the keyboard comes so I ended up with a lubing station

[glacial wind]

Just bag lube and you’re good

Unless you don’t have oil then you gotta brush or dip

[tropic urchin]

I lubed top and bottom sides of the springs (slightly less than donut method) but looked similar

I didn’t trust myself to get the proportions right and didn’t have 105g so it was w/e

[cedar kernel]

I got the molykote and krytox set from wooting, I'm assuming by oil you mean krytox for bag lubing

[sacred elm]

just lube with olive oil

[cedar kernel]

😂😂

[sacred elm]

🥶

[cedar kernel]

I got some lube at home already guess it can't hurt right ?

[tropic urchin]

You should work for ASUS

Where mail man at I want my Jade pros 😭😭😭😭

[glacial wind]

Anyone ordered one of these carbon fiber 80he plates from 3rd party? Tempted to try one out

[cedar kernel]

For sound dampening inside ?

If it's for that, I did get some extra poron foam

[glacial wind]

Nah as in full plate swap

[cedar kernel]

My bad then, didn't know it was a thing, found it on AliExpress?

[glacial wind]

Yeah. I think some sellers just scanned the wooting plate since I don’t think plate files are public yet

[cedar kernel]

Found some for the 60he funny enough it even has the wooting logo and name on it 😂 don't think wooting sells on AliExpress under KeeBox Store

[tropic urchin]

Do you have a link? Curious to see

Carbon fiber would be interesting

[glacial wind]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_oC03mfn

[quiet bay]

Its in damn Indiana

[chilly mural]

Might try carbon fiber

[tropic urchin]

I think i'll end up experimenting with it eventually

idk if I can justify having to replug the JST cable again 😭

[high sphinx]

Yo guys o am about to do yhe bandaid mod is ot any good ?

[chilly mural]

nneed to get that easily disassembly case

[tropic urchin]

Nah I just have mouse pads for hands

[stone flax]

What oil

[polar girder]

Yo so now it’s it between king of magneto or jade pro??

[sacred elm]

box stem 🤮
jade pros 😎

[stone flax]

jade pros 🤢
Raw he 😎

[sacred elm]

box stem 🤮
jade pros 😎
raw he 😎

[stone flax]

lekkers v1
ks-20 orange/white
omnipoints

[high sphinx]

Hey guys i was wondering is molykote em-50L harmfull for pcb or anything ?

[stone flax]

no

[high sphinx]

Ok ty man

Man balancing the wire is so shit i can never never get it perfect haha but i think i am happy now how it is

[hybrid cairn]

THANK YOU SO MUCH! OH MY GOODNESS YOURE A LIFESAVER. i assume spring natural length shouldnt matter so THANK YOUUUUUU

[wraith arrow]

Is there a compatibility list for stabilizers for the 60HE+ somewhere? I'm running into the spacebar getting stuck issue, using Gateron Max switches. Now call me weird for enjoying the friction of those switches, but it doesn't seem to be related to those as I've tried different ones.

[spice plover]

Don’t go lower than 4mm you just missing out 🤷‍♀️ why anyone would choose the Raw HEs over the Lekkar v2s

[knotty iron]

me when raw he

[marsh saffron]

Lord geon > all

[knotty iron]

@stone flax so you use the jwk adaptive pcb mount stabs? how is the wobble? I dont mind the noise as much as long as I can minimize the wobble. I can also apply some lube to the housings to make them smoother and quieter. you also mentioned they get smoother over time? because of the silicone?

[tropic urchin]

I’ve been blessed by the hifi mahjong sound Jade Pros have arrived

[cedar kernel]

A bit late in the day xD

Good for you tho 😄

[polar girder]

lol bro is still raging at those with different preferences

Wild

[tropic urchin]

They came 1 day earlier than maxes and like 3 hrs after, but it’s fine

After spending 3 days with no updates I’ll take it

[sacred elm]

right buddy should i hop on black knights 🥶

[stone arch]

What brand is the GMK of PBT caps?

[agile grove]

theres quite a lot

I would take a look at the vendors on this list https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[tidal spade]

Help

What do I put at that missing parts

My keycaps don’t have another windows button that’s big

Only small windows button

[stray tiger]

Looks like you bought a keycap set for a 65% board

The 3 keys to the left and right of the spacebar should be the same

[spice plover]

😂 idk just saying you guys always going smaller for dumb reasons like “clickity clack” so. <comfort and performance.

[tropic urchin]

@stray tiger the mail man delivered my salvation (Jade pros), I’ll hopefully get a better sound test for you later 🙂

[round scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-laptop-duh-gif-8033838636860661307

[hybrid cairn]

would anyone happen to know if the lekker springs and gateron springs are roughly the same diameter? i wna springswap the lekker 80gr springs into a few of the TTC KOM rgbs so they can actually hold the heavier cerakeys i wna try making a clack build out of

[marsh saffron]

What

[old sapphire]

i just got the jade pros im enjoying them very much in the 60he+

[sacred elm]

based

[rain pebble]

what mods can you do to a 80he i just bough it hasnt come yet

[devout totem]

Jade Max rebound and rgb with Pro feel and sound

[hollow heart]

Has anyone tried latenpow deng he switches?

[stray tiger]

Hell yeah man, looking forward to it

[hybrid cairn]

ive been told they feel terrible and have tons of stem wobble for a box stem

would anyone happen to know if the lekker springs and gateron springs are roughly the same diameter? i wna springswap the lekker 80gr springs into a few of the TTC KOM rgbs so they can actually hold the heavier cerakeys i wna try making a clack build out of

[polar girder]

Aren’t springs like $5

[hybrid cairn]

idk why?

[polar girder]

Find out for yourself

Instead of spamming every hour on the hour

[hybrid cairn]

spring pack is 15 yeah

[hybrid cairn]

but i wasnt asking the price

im asking the diameter

tf

??

[polar girder]

Tf

[hybrid cairn]

are you telling me to buy a gateron geon or something and a lekker spring pack?

[polar girder]

I’m saying sometimes there’s only one way to find out if something works

FAFO

[hybrid cairn]

fafo?

oh nvm got it

[hybrid cairn]

i was js asking on the off chance someone knew

[polar girder]

Yeah but every time I check this chat you asking again lol

I mean whatever

Do you

[hybrid cairn]

since there may be some avid keyboard modders here that have some springs layin around

[polar girder]

Just so niche

But maybe

[hybrid cairn]

i think ive asked this particular question 2-3 times maybe?

[polar girder]

Anyway

[hybrid cairn]

yeah fs, but then again keeb things can be niche, so doesnt exactly hurt to try

also my measuring thing is packed rn

so i cant even get it

to measure myself

unless i buy another one

[tropic urchin]

Removing these switches are no joke 😭😭😭

Fucking hell

[random hull]

💀 its as bad as everyone said huh

[hybrid cairn]

gta hit arms more just for the keeb frfr

[tropic urchin]

Nah this shit wrecks your tendons

No amount of arm day is going to help soft tissue irritation in your hands lmao

[tropic urchin]

I expected it would be bad but it’s a little worse than I expected

[random hull]

ugh

[hybrid cairn]

i mean removing them is grip strength which comes from forearms + the smaller muslces in your fingers and tendons so i guess what we need to hit is rock climbing days frfr

[random hull]

what makes it so difficult compared to other boards or is just always bad

or a tool thing

[hollow heart]

im looking for a smooth/quieter switch for a 80he build, any ideas?

i saw everglide rice pudding dont fit properly wasnt sure if that was true

[hybrid cairn]

add foam, make sure not to compress it, and linear switches, and lube ur switches and stabs

[hollow heart]

what switches would you reccomend?

[hybrid cairn]

honestly ive never looked for a quiet HE switch so i cant help ya with that one

all i know is that silent ones dont exist yet

[hollow heart]

what about deeper ones not necessarily silent

[hybrid cairn]

deep and HE simply dont go together, i tried for literal months and nothing gives that "depth" like you can get with mx boards

i too am waiting on the day for thoccy he switch to come into existence

[hollow heart]

darnnn what is your favorite than?

[hybrid cairn]

im an enjoyer of all sounds so im also not the best person to ask, and that question is personal so id reccomend you listen to sound tests for a rough idea of what they sound like, but since a ton of variable affect sound the only way to hear what the switch will actually sound like is testing it yourself

[magic walrus]

Jo wich keycaps i want that escapecap with smiley

[hybrid cairn]

rn im gna buy TTC KOM rgbs but theyre loud and clacky (higher pitched)

[hollow heart]

ive definitely liked the everglide rice pudding over others when watching videos, but i heard they arent properly built for the wooting

[hybrid cairn]

more like not properly built at all from what ive been told

[magic walrus]

@tidal spade

[tidal spade]

Gate keeping

[magic walrus]

Thx

[tidal spade]

?

[magic walrus]

I meant it ironic

[hollow heart]

what are good brands to look at for switches

for quality control

[hybrid cairn]

geon and gateron are the largest ones i know of

[hollow heart]

ty :)

[tropic urchin]

What are you looking for specifically

[magic walrus]

Bro u serious?

[hollow heart]

a more deep sound, and pleasent feeling

[tropic urchin]

For a deeper sounding switch you’ll be looking at primarily Lekker V2/black knights

[hybrid cairn]

not the deep youre thinking of though probably, theyre deep for HE switches, but not so much in general

[hollow heart]

ahh ok

i guess as long as they feel good to press than ill be alright

are the black nights considerably loud or just normal?

[hybrid cairn]

idk what "feel good to press" means but most if not all well made switches will "feel good" if lubed properly

ofc feel good is subjective

[tawdry tree]

Yw man! 😅

[hybrid cairn]

!! :DDDDDDD

you wouldnnt happen to know if the gatterons / geons use the lekker springs do you?

idk if gateron sells springs with high enough gr but lekker sells them up to 100gr

[magic walrus]

https://osume.com/products/mochi-keycaps

[tawdry tree]

All Gateron and Hejin’s non-magnetic springs have the exact same diameter. So for example; Lekker V1’s, Lekker V2’s, Jade Pro’s and Raw HE’s springs are all cross compatible.

[hybrid cairn]

oh perfectttt that means they should fit in the TTC KOM rgbs!

so i can js slap 80gr springs in the switches under the heavier cerakeys

[tawdry tree]

You can get non-magnetic springs from AliExpress which fit perfectly.

[hybrid cairn]

and all is good!

[tawdry tree]

Yes.

[tawdry tree]

Precisely.

[hybrid cairn]

YAYYYYYYYYYYYY

THANK YOUUUUUU

[tawdry tree]

You can get 10pcs of different weights. The spacebar would need a stronger spring in order to feel the same.

[hollow heart]

i want cerakeys so bad

[tawdry tree]

If you care about those slight differences.

[hybrid cairn]

same lel, everything im tryna buy is outta stock though

[hybrid cairn]

ooo great idea!

[hollow heart]

so they can work with many switches if u increase the spring?

[worldly igloo]

Any one has suggestion for black/white or both keycaps with something i mean not just original black and white please

[hybrid cairn]

since i only need like 10 total switches that need heavier springs itd cut down the cost a ton probably!

[hybrid cairn]

cerakeys? as long as they fit on the switch and the spring is heavy enough / can be changed to be heavy enough then yeahh

[hollow heart]

also btw im thinking ill go with dark night switches, although i dislike how bad the lighting would be but i dont care for rgb that much anyways

[hybrid cairn]

sweet!

[hybrid cairn]

do you have a specific reputable ali seller you know of that you recommend?

[hollow heart]

105 keys would only be 40$ too not bad

[hybrid cairn]

meanwhile im paying over 90 😭

[hollow heart]

what did u go with?

[stone arch]

Iv heard dark knights arnt to good, make sure you want them before getting them

[tawdry tree]

Here’s the listing: https://a.aliexpress.com/_EJCNjSs if you want a custom order/custom amounts you can message the seller.

[hybrid cairn]

TTC KOM rgbs

[hybrid cairn]

OH MY YOU HAVE EVERYTHING! THANK YOU AGAIN!

wait dis says magnetic spring

[hollow heart]

those looks so good though

[tawdry tree]

These are extended springs (which I’d recommend) by the way, so a length of 22mm instead of 18.

[tawdry tree]

For magnetic switches, which are non-magnetic springs.

[hybrid cairn]

they do indeed, and they have the best performance available with perfect rgb compatability, side effect, loud and higher pitched

[tawdry tree]

They’re good, I use them.

[hybrid cairn]

OH AWESOME

[hybrid cairn]

THANK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[stone flax]

why is he still yapping abt springs

tf

how long has it been

[hollow heart]

preformance is a factor when dealing with switches?

[tawdry tree]

Np 😂

[hollow heart]

what preformance can you lose

[hybrid cairn]

i have no idea idea how to use ali express so now i gta figure out how to msg the seller lol

[hybrid cairn]

js stem wobble mainly

[hybrid cairn]

i will yap until i get answers 🗣️

[tawdry tree]

It’s easy, you’ll figure it out 😄

[hybrid cairn]

:D

hell yeah figured it out

[stone flax]

what did u even care so much about springs for 😭

[hybrid cairn]

cerakeys are heavy and the TTC KOM rgbs have 35gr initial press weight so theyd crumble lmao

[stone flax]

koms x cerakeys

[hybrid cairn]

so i gta spring swap the switches fo the heavier keys

[stone flax]

ur not welcome in my neighborhood

[hybrid cairn]

why

:(

[stone flax]

[stone flax]

😑

[hybrid cairn]

yeah but like

whats the issue with that

for you

?

[stone flax]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-tom-hardy-marvel-rage-antihero-gif-11732259

[hybrid cairn]

you remind me of this one kid at my school who would randomly be angry or upset with something then not tell anyone why lmaoooo

he was pretty funny though

[stone flax]

they know

[hybrid cairn]

can i know too?

please?

:D

[stone flax]

nah id rather you like ur purchase

[hollow heart]

thoughts on ttc magneto?

[hybrid cairn]

good performance, loud. clacky (higher pitch)

if you arent getting rgb, get POMs

[hybrid cairn]

is it cause cerakeys deepen the sound while KOMs are known for clacky goodness?

and trust me no external opinion would make me dislike something unless its with facts and logic

so please lmk! :D

[random hull]

only did 10 switches today, hope to do 20 tomorrow

[hollow heart]

what do you mean by not getting rgb

[hybrid cairn]

the TTC KOM rgbs are the same thing as the TTC Magnetso aka KOMs aka King of Magnets or something, TTC KOM has a base that isnt so rgb friendly

whats why im getting the rgb ver, completely clear housing

[hybrid cairn]

@stone flax ?

[hollow heart]

ahh so its just poor rgb like the black nights im assuming?

[hybrid cairn]

TTC KOMs non rgb ver vs. a switch with clear housing

and these are the black knights

[hollow heart]

hmm hard choice

its ok i have 2 months before my keyboard is shipped so i have enough time to decide

[fickle breach]

chat Im trying to take off the top half of the 80HE case after removing all the screws, every section comes off except for in front of the spacebar. I dont wanna break anything but does anyone know what might be causing this?

[hybrid cairn]

all js depends on what u value and your budget. you want a but lower on avg HE switch and dont care about rgb that much and dont have much of a budget/wna save money get the Black Knights. If youre fine with the loud and clacky (high pitch) switch in exchange for basically the least stem wooble on the market and the smoothest feel without lube get the TTC POMs. if you value that low amt of stem wobble and rgb while being okay with loud and clacky sound, get TTC KOM rgbs

[hollow heart]

and if u value 0 preformance get lekkers?

[stone flax]

why?

[hybrid cairn]

if you value 0 performance why are you getting a wooting

[hybrid cairn]

can u tell me the thing from earlier please? :D

[stone flax]

why are the only options ur listing black knights and ttc's lul

nah

get the things ur gonna get

have fun

[hybrid cairn]

cause thats what they have said to liked so far?

[hollow heart]

i was joking lol i just heard lekkers got the worst wobble by far

[hybrid cairn]

trust me man what you say wont change my opinions unless it factual and i take all facts into consideration so itd be of value to me if you just told me what youre thinking about

so please js lmk

[stone flax]

what do they want in a switch

[hybrid cairn]

:D

[hybrid cairn]

they have so far bounced between deep which i said isnt the deep theyre thinking of, then not saying rgb, then saying the rgbs looked good after seeing them, then saying they like the black knights, then said their board in coming in 2 months so they have a while to decide, i js went with the option they seemed to like, which was TTCs and Black Knights'

[hollow heart]

😭

[stone flax]

what

cornball

[hybrid cairn]

lmao

[hollow heart]

this is my first time modding a keyboard guys im sorry im trying to understand everything

[hybrid cairn]

nah dude

all good

i am

the same

[stone flax]

i mean what are ur preferences

?

that isnt rgb

XD

rgb to make ur only choice leaves you to diffusers and transparent housings

[hybrid cairn]

bro has a vendetta against rgb 😭

[polar girder]

I mean if you’re clueless and want deep sound then temper expectations and just stick with stock lekker v2

[hybrid cairn]

yeah^

[hollow heart]

i didnt get switches :0

[stone flax]

he's getting a module and i think getting lekker v2 would just cost too much

[stone flax]

unless he can add them afterwards with the discount?

[hybrid cairn]

i rec u js listen to a bunch of sound tests to get a rough idea of what you like

[polar girder]

Oh

[hollow heart]

ill probably just go with the black nights since thier fairly cheap, and seem to be a overall good pick

[stone flax]

cuz non bundled lekker v2's already cost the same as other choices

[hybrid cairn]

alrighty

[stone flax]

"overall good pick" why exactly?

[hollow heart]

from there i can learn to lube and mod them, mabye get some stabalizers

[stone flax]

theyre just open bottoms that are tighter

like

[hybrid cairn]

js lube stock stabs, apparently theyre good when lubed

[hollow heart]

good to know, and u said i would want to pad it?

[stone flax]

im so confused rn

[hybrid cairn]

pad... the stabs???

[polar girder]

No lol

[hybrid cairn]

same

[tawdry tree]

Yeah the front is stubborn, I kinda titled it and pulled up.

[stone flax]

stabilizer pads are cope

just use screwins

[hybrid cairn]

i dont even know what theyre talking about

[polar girder]

Yeah don’t buy anything extra

[stone flax]

which the wooting already has

[polar girder]

Yeah module stabs are good

[hollow heart]

my bad u said foam

[sacred elm]

black knights are garbage

they arent overall good

[hybrid cairn]

foam to the board, not the stabs

[sacred elm]

pick

[hollow heart]

yes i know 🙏

[polar girder]

I would see if you can add lekker v2 to your order

[stone flax]

these are stab pads

[polar girder]

Idk

[hollow heart]

i just didnt clarify board

[fickle breach]

which direction should I push / pull?

[hybrid cairn]

ngl try the board w.o foam first so u dont waste money

[hollow heart]

my bad im a little autistic

[hollow heart]

kk :)

[tawdry tree]

who doesn’t like oil 🛢️🤑

[hybrid cairn]

oh those. they js make them sticky for no reason js tune and lube em right

[hybrid cairn]

same

[stone flax]

for real

[hybrid cairn]

can u tell me the thing now

please

:D

[tawdry tree]

I titled the forehead up and pulled a bit.

[hollow heart]

so just pcb, black nights, and ill reuse my glorious keycaps

and the ghost plastic case

[tawdry tree]

You didn’t forget a screw right?

[hybrid cairn]

read that outta context one time out loud lmao

[hybrid cairn]

o k, again js listen to sound tests to get a rough idea first

[fickle breach]

assuming there isnt one dead center of the front no

[tropic urchin]

@stray tiger isn’t it beautiful

[hybrid cairn]

@stone flax pleaseeeeeeeee

[fickle breach]

got all 7 out