🔧│keyboard_modding

[fluid ravine]

This is da way

Project boximum

[glacial wind]

lol is that your travel case

[fallen pecan]

bro got the custom foam cut

[fluid ravine]

It's the optimum box ✊😭

[devout totem]

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-reece-simpson-kayode-ewumi-roll-safe-meme-gif-17305682

[glacial wind]

that works

[calm pulsar]

nais

[fluid ravine]

Everyday I would have to do an unboxing like its the first time

[glacial wind]

hrm if wooting releases 0.1 rt, that plus ttc magneto rgb/pom switch would get rt to perform like venom60 potentially

[glacial wind]

that will be neat to compare vs venom. I may need to borrow friends venom again to see if the 0.1 rt on ttc switches in a wooting with the 0.1 rt update feels the same as venom on raw he

[knotty iron]

what software does venom use

[glacial wind]

their own

[fallen pecan]

heheh

[honest nacelle]

yk

I do wish gateron would do more low profile switches with full travel

I do quite like the benefits of low profile profiling, but I do still prefer full or long pole travel

[tawdry tree]

Metropolis

[honest nacelle]

like 1.5-2mm travel has never felt right to me

[fallen pecan]

i think gat is testing the market

since nuphy's the only one using the jade minis

[honest nacelle]

I mean

I would love to see a low profile full travel standard mx switch

too much to ask for right now

but I would love gateorn's next generation of LP switches to be standard mx compat

and one version to be standard LP (low travel, low profile) but still work in mx socket

and one version to be LP full travel

[fallen pecan]

instead theyre releasing a new HE pcb that's gh60 compatible with dual 8k

[honest nacelle]

yea somehow I don't think they'll be actually releasing it

like

I think they'll 'release it'

but you'll find it in collab boards

like kbdfans will make a case

and offer the gateron pcb as an addon

kind of like the original holy60

[fallen pecan]

probably

pcba looks nice tho from the pics

[knotty iron]

dude that looks siccckkk

[tawdry tree]

render but still

[fallen pecan]

unetched board handed out to press conference people

[tawdry tree]

I want a low profile magnetic switch with a centered magnet. would be so sick

[agile stump]

still waiting for the geon raw he restock on divinikey :(

[real meadow]

has anyone personally installed the gateron jade maxes and have had problems?

[untold wigeon]

guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNT34c8a7sI

how about, raptors vs raw?

[glacial wind]

This video is wrong and the guy who made it confused more magnetic strength with more accuracy

Raw are better

[untold wigeon]

oki, ty

[flat cobalt]

I don’t think Maxes are that good according to the people in here

[glacial wind]

Yeah go jade pro if you want to go for jades of some sort

[untold wigeon]

what is ur choise between jades pro, geon raw or lekkers v2? no personal preferences, just performance?

[glacial wind]

Jade pro if all 3 are priced the same

[untold wigeon]

Bcs of performance?

[glacial wind]

Yeah jade pro and raw he are essentially same same to most folks. Technically jade pro has tighter magnet tolerances

[untold wigeon]

Ohh, okii

[ionic breach]

wym by performance?

[glacial wind]

Normally I’d say raw he because jade pro is like 20% more expensive for no real gains

[untold wigeon]

How about ttc magneto rgb, if priced same as jades pro?

[glacial wind]

But they’re same priced right now so I say Jade pro during Black Friday

[glacial wind]

Well I’d go ttc magneto but that’s openly knowing jade pro feel nicer

And sound nicer

[untold wigeon]

I ve seen some benchmarks here, yesterday, and seems that performance is different based on switches u use

[glacial wind]

The performance difference is purely talking stability at bottom though

For most folks that doesn’t matter

Jade pro is the better sounding and feeling switch while being very tight already. Magneto rgb/pom is the better stability for wobble but you sacrifice some feel and sound

So usually jade pro is the safer recommendation to most people because magneto sound is really harsh and loud for some people

Think of it like a Porsche 911 vs. Porsche gt3 rs made for track racing. Both are fast but one is optimised for racing and not as comfortable day to day and if you’re not racing you get no benefit from it

[untold wigeon]

I was hoping phoenix doesn't feel cheap..

[glacial wind]

Phoenix are not exactly well regarded nice switches

[untold wigeon]

Haha...true

[tawdry tree]

Hand lubing does go a long way.

[radiant wing]

Good morning guys and sorry for the inconvenience, I wanted to know having recently bought the wooting 60he how to configure certain keys since I can't see them from the software

[little glen]

A split wooting board could also be really good for gaming cause you can decide to only use one side and get a lot more mousing space in return

However, best would probably posting this in #1141096226884956181

[untold wigeon]

Honestly if you were the states I would send you mine. I just bought jade pros and waiting for them to come in.

[edgy panther]

honestly how much more mouse space would someone need when 60% is already small enough

[hollow dagger]

Depends on what you're looking for. I have Jade Maxes and regretted getting it.

Transparency makes the RGB much brighter than it would be, but that's the only positive I can give.

[edgy panther]

yeah don't go jade maxes

they are straight up ass

[solemn mural]

"why get a 60%, how much mouse space would someone need when TLK is enough" if gamers weren't constantly looking to optimize we wouldn't have cool products like the Lekker switch 🙂

[edgy panther]

lekker switches are the least coolest thing about wooting 😄

[flat cobalt]

Jade Pros are here

[tawdry tree]

I’d post it in #1141096226884956181 , it’ll get buried in this channel in no time.

[plush stirrup]

Thnx, noted 👍

[flat cobalt]

Why is this stuff so exclusive?

“Customers must purchase a GMK Basekit for the opportunity to buy an associated keyboard”

[sacred elm]

[glacial wind]

my 60he+ got stuck in CDG airport for 5 days. My hate for that airport only grows now

already thought that airport had the worst layout in previous trips, now it is further tainted by holding my 60he+ up

[chilly mural]

😭

[barren wasp]

gateron jade pros or gateron jades max

[sacred elm]

pro

[glacial wind]

pro for sure. Max is not it

friction issues makes them less smooth

[barren wasp]

are jade pros almost like mechanical switches

[glacial wind]

they're one of the closest to clean mx sound yeah

[knotty iron]

Max sucks to use

[amber hornet]

Which stabilizer do I buy as upgrade for the 60he (non plus)?
They make me go crazy with how rattly they are

[tidal frigate]

Plate mounted

[amber hornet]

I know they are plate mounted, I am asking which would be the best option to upgrade to.

[high sphinx]

Hey guys my stabs on the wooting 80 sound a little bit rattly on the left side of the board i wanna try the syringe technique to inject some lube and i ordered the lube on the wooting site but it coles with two variants the krytox 205G0 and the molykote EM-50L but if i wanna do the syringe technique to inject wich one of those two should i use ?

[polar girder]

Yeah the molykote I think is the grease type

Krytox is the lube type

[cedar gate]

Have you lubed them

[sacred elm]

https://geon.works/products/designer-studio-stabilizer

[amber hornet]

its still the stock lubing, but these sound so terrible I dont think lubing will make a significant change

[amber hornet]

GOD DAMN

[sacred elm]

[glacial wind]

Yeah don’t buy from geon if it’s just one small item and you’re not Korean

Shipping will kill you

[amber hornet]

Yeah I see that

[glacial wind]

You can find the plate mount designer studio elsewhere I’m sure

They’re very cheap

[amber hornet]

https://de.aliexpress.com/i/1005007381809280.html?

Are these the right ones?

[sacred elm]

yes

[amber hornet]

Thanks

[high sphinx]

@glacial wind yeah i ordered my geon raws from geon and i had to pay a lot and then cause i live in eu i had to pay imort and douane costs with dhl

it costed me alot

@polar girder so wich one of those two do i use in the syringe ?

[amber hornet]

while I am at it: I also need to buy some lube, are there any legitamite ones Ae?

[glacial wind]

On aliexpress it’s rough

Better off buying lube more locally if you care about it being real krytox

[polar girder]

The molykote

For greasing wire inside stab

[high sphinx]

nah i wont open up the keyboard i am just going to use the syringe technique but that is probablyly what u meant

@glacial wind do you know if it is normal if i order from geonworks that when i pay the shipping costs over there that i have to pay additional costs with dhl for douane and import costs ?

[fallen pecan]

Dhl will get their slice of meat no matter what

[high sphinx]

@fallen pecan apperiantly i paid shipment on geonworks and dhl asks extra money but well it is what it is i will be happy when the geon raws arrive

[slender vine]

Just got mine a few days ago, you won't be disappointed

[hollow dagger]

Beautiful

Enjoy building the jade knights!

[high sphinx]

Nice hey @slender vine do you know wich lube i have to use to inject into the stab with a syringe whitout opening the keyboard i have krytox 205G0 and i have the molykote EM-50L ?

[slender vine]

I would try it without lubing first, it's already really good factory lubed.

[high sphinx]

@slender vine yeah i applied some more pressure on the spacebar keycap on the left where i had a little bit of rattle and i got a little sort of click and it seems better now i think

but not 100 percent sure

[stone flax]

205

[high sphinx]

@stone flax ty mate appreciate it

[untold wigeon]

if order a the wooting 80he module without keycaps rather than the pre-assebled one, does it still comes with cable? does it have same accesorries as the pre-assebmled ones in the box?

[sacred elm]

yes it comes with a cable

[cold fog]

Hey everyone, I am looking to lube my Lekker V2 switches and was looking at some switch openers. Does any cherry switch opener does the job or do I need to look for a special one?

[knotty iron]

yes

[untold wigeon]

probably im asking so stupid question, sorry...

it comes with anything says here, right? if i order the module, not the pre-assembled

[knotty iron]

i dont think the module comes with extra switches, feet, or keycaps

[sacred elm]

those come with the case you order

[knotty iron]

otherwuse yes the reso of the stuff seems right

[sacred elm]

you will receive everything except switches and keycaps

[untold wigeon]

oh, excuse me, wait

[untold wigeon]

if i order these, does it comes with all these?

[sacred elm]

Yes, except keycaps

it will come with a white cable

because you chose frost

[untold wigeon]

yep, ty, gonna get the glorious polychroma

thnaks for everything

[untold wigeon]

Does anyone knows how much does wooting 80he consumes? power consumption? rgb on and off? Just curious

[stray tiger]

80HE not on there yet but is VERY close to the 60HE+

[untold wigeon]

4.6 watts maximum?

[stray tiger]

Again, not exact numbers yet but wattage is amps * volts and 4.75-5.25v is the USB spec limits

it might even be 5.5v, i think it was raised last year or something

[untold wigeon]

Mhm, anyways, i think 80he + 8khz, will be 10 watts maximum..

?

[stray tiger]

@molten breach @marsh juniper

Calling in the experts for you

[untold wigeon]

hah, ty, i was just curious

is there an easy way to lube the switches without opening them?

[stray tiger]

No

[untold wigeon]

does wooting 80he comes with a switch opener?

or it has to be bought separately?

oh i forgot, it doesnt

nvm =))

[dreamy drum]

https://tenor.com/view/gmod-default-dance-kleiner-dance-gif-19160428

[untold wigeon]

how long Krytox 205g0 does last until next lubrication?

[dawn verge]

crazy work

[marsh juniper]

that's alot of watts......
only did a quick test but

• wooting 80he ANSI
• Full brightness - White
• Tachyon on
• 8k polling
  is around
• 4.463v / 1.008A = 4.491

with 8k polling enabled/disabled only a very slight change of 0.010-0.020 watts differences witch is hard to rule if the result of 8k

[untold wigeon]

ty a lot for your effort, i was reading on google that a mechanical keyboard consumes between 9-27 watts...i didn't know how much a keyboard with he switches consumes...

[marsh juniper]

Hall sensors don't tend to consume much power though they do require having the power demands met and a stable power to work correctly.
the biggest power draw tends to come from the LEDs you check the Graph to see what happens when leds are set to 0

[untold wigeon]

thank you

[stray tiger]

Thanks!

[scenic lantern]

Should I remove these pads before I install my new stabs? I’m gonna be using swagkeys knights long poles so I’m just scared they’re gonna cause an additional buffer or something

[cedar gate]

I would tbh

[scenic lantern]

What are the pads even for?

[cedar gate]

Oh did they come with the board I though you stuck them on

[scenic lantern]

No they came with they were underneath the stock stabs on the 80he

[cedar gate]

On second thought maybe I'm too dumb to answer the question sry🤣

[scenic lantern]

Lmao all good I’m new to this so was just wondering what they even were

[stone flax]

I personally would remove em

But its up to you

All they do is reduce stab noise

[random hull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7K9XCUQdM0

[solar tiger]

ermn

[fluid ravine]

Technically forever

You don't really relube switches after lubing them once

[stray tiger]

Not sure but that left shift is super handsome

[fluid ravine]

Pops looking maaad fine on the left shift

[scenic lantern]

Lmao

I ended up removing them

[fluid ravine]

He needs them pads to cover the big guns

Frik he whipped out the big guns

[scenic lantern]

Now I’m just worried I over lubed the stabs with molykote

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/muscles-guns-these-guns-arm-muscles-dwayne-johnson-gif-11210121

[mossy river]

what are peoples thoughts on moyu studio gugu black knight

[flat cobalt]

Soon gotta wait for the geon’s to come in next month

[analog mulch]

Hello i got the geon raw he 50g, didnt lube them, factory lubed... After 2 weeks of using they sound awfull, scratchiness when typing like their ranging against something idk, and most of the switches sound different from eachother(they were fine in the first week)...
Is the solution to lube them? I like a quiet thocky noise, would you recommend me another switch or stick with lubed geon raw?

[dapper obsidian]

Screwdriver.

Or another switches top, housing

^^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpOfswofOm4

Screwdriver is probably the savest bet without a opener. after a few Switches you have the hang of it and shouldnt get any issues opening them in 5 Seconds

[stone flax]

yesyestestestyesyesy

[fluid ravine]

If you say so you might as well take the time to lube them.

[fluid ravine]

Hahaaa real

[stone flax]

people look at me crazy for saying screw drivers do their job

I will never pay for a switch opener

[fluid ravine]

Imagineee
I don't get look crazy

[analog mulch]

sorry for sounding dumb, its my first keyboard that i built soz

[fluid ravine]

It's alright

[stone flax]

quiet thocky

quirt

thocky

quiet

Thocky

[fluid ravine]

At least you noticed smth you didn't like
It's good to ask questions here

[stone flax]

maybe if ur edited sound test puts gain all the way down

:3

[analog mulch]

maybe i called it wrong, english is not my main language sorry

what matters to me its not being scratchy and being quiet, since my wife dosent like when i type too much :p

[daring helm]

How good are the raptor he with lekker v1 stem compared to lekker v2?

[cobalt sapphire]

just got my cerakeys do i need to clean them any different than reg gpt keycaps

[tidal frigate]

How do you clean your dishes?

[cobalt sapphire]

dishwasher lmao

[tidal frigate]

You clean it same as dishes

But with hand

[cedar gate]

DONT DO THIS BRO these are expensive and great switches and you might break them if you do this. Just use the cheapest switch opener you can find

[stone flax]

L

[cedar gate]

How often do you break switches lol

[stone flax]

screwdrivers are peak

[stone flax]

Out of maybe 1300? I lost a diffuser once

[cedar gate]

Your money none of my business

Even if you don't break then it's 2 damn bucks and it's so.much faster

I will say most people don't need switch pullers tho those are really easy to pull

[cedar gate]

Raptors have issues with the magnet I would recommend lekker v2s over them

[crystal pagoda]

I think BK housings and raw stem do way better

[daring helm]

arent black nights open bottom and raws closed?

[amber hornet]

yes

[daring helm]

wouldnt that mess with the travel distance

[amber hornet]

Probably. I dont know tho

Never tried it

[sacred elm]

wouldnt recommend

dont you have jade pros ?

[daring helm]

im just curious

[stone flax]

in what way

[daring helm]

bruh the black knight and raw HEs have different travel distances

[stone flax]

Their stems are around the same length

[daring helm]

oh

[stone flax]

the stemswapped bk’s are done for tolerance improvement

Same principle as stemswapped raptors

Just modernized

[daring helm]

so its even better than stock raws?

[stone flax]

According to people yeah

[fluid ravine]

Gotta ask arc himself

[daring helm]

oh wait what

the black knights are 3.6mm nvm

i thought open bottom would make it a fulil travel distances

[stone flax]

Theyre not

They are full travel

The spec sheet on product pages lie

Its full travel

[amber hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-liar-star-wars-lying-gif-8634649

[daring helm]

damn

[calm pulsar]

BKs are 4mm yeah

[soft drift]

store

[knotty iron]

anyone know anything about the designerstudios PCB mount adaptive stabs

[north locust]

have tofu60 good sound and what are best case (no like tofu)

[flat cobalt]

Salvation

[stone flax]

Frog mini, salvation

[glacial wind]

Honestly i hate the cheap box stems that have too much wiggle at the top still

They feel awful

when you rest on wasd you feel the box stem hitting the housing

[stone flax]

18 minutes to say raws are better

crazy work @mikeytypes

[glacial wind]

sticky rice v2 is the one that’s the rice pudding right?

I recall them being the same switch or something like that

Ah right they were named the same or whatever but different makers

[hushed rose]

Hey guys, can I associate SOCD in multiple keys agaisnt 1 key? Like, shift vs ctrl, shift vs alt, shift vs space (all SOCD)

[glacial wind]

no only one socd on that key

[mossy river]

king of magnets 🤑

[glacial wind]

are all the switches placed north facing?

agreed

[stone flax]

he spittin

[cedar lynx]

AHHHHHHH, idk what tf to get

TTC Magneto or Jade Pros???

[glacial wind]

jade pro unless you absolutely must have the tightest stem wobble at bottom out, but the difference is fairly minor

[crystal pagoda]

Geon raw HE

[cedar lynx]

also are TKL keycaps compatible for the 60he?

[crystal pagoda]

name a single person who actually likes how koms feel and sound

this koms stability propaganda is such cope

[cedar lynx]

idk what that means

[glacial wind]

also wow that latenpow switch sucks for a box stem lol, but i shouldn't be that surprised

the last one is the latenpow lol

i was curious how it performed after mikeytypes said he liked it, but it's incredibly wobbly vs even jade pro

[fallen pecan]

ye it's in the flux chart

#12 on the list

[glacial wind]

i shouldn't be that surprised with the quality of their typical switches I suppose

[crystal pagoda]

Yes but kitting is off

[flat cobalt]

[glacial wind]

he's saying ttc magneto are a very sharp sound that generally isn't what most folks prefer

[crystal pagoda]

the only people ive heard say koms sound the best is dreamic and ponniereviews

[glacial wind]

lol

[crystal pagoda]

this further proves my claim

They sound terrible

[cedar lynx]

so what do yall think the best switches are?

[glacial wind]

depends what your goal is

[cedar lynx]

idk and thats my problem

[glacial wind]

overall including sound and feel? Probably raw he/jade pro

[cedar lynx]

what are my options lmao

[crystal pagoda]

raw jade pro black knight kom

[glacial wind]

if you're talking absolute tightest then ttc magneto rgb/pom, but you give up sound and feel

[crystal pagoda]

black knights for the L’s and koms for the Sigmas

[cedar lynx]

so between the jade pros and raw he, what are the differences

[crystal pagoda]

Spring length

honestly

Price too ig

[cedar lynx]

what are the raws length

[glacial wind]

slight spring length difference, jade pros have tinted top housing that can affect rgb a bit, raw he is neutral color so rgb is a bit better, raw he is normally about 20% cheaper (but black friday sales on jade pro equal it out for now)

jade pro is technically tiny bit tighter, but not in a way that you can notice the difference without a micrometer device

sound wise very similar too, with raw he being a tad higher pitch

[crystal pagoda]

Gets raws because theyre cool

🤴🇺🇸❤️👊😢

[cedar lynx]

so jades are better than?

got it

[crystal pagoda]

Do you use rgb

[cedar lynx]

yah

[crystal pagoda]

Jade pros discolor rgb

Heavily

[cedar lynx]

fuck me bruh

[crystal pagoda]

Housing tints it

[glacial wind]

get geon raw he if you're worried about the tinting

[cedar lynx]

are there any other notable switches i should look into

[glacial wind]

not really

there are other switches, but most will put the raw he and jade pro above them

[crystal pagoda]

Lekker v2 is an amazing stock switch 🫵🤓

kidding

[flat cobalt]

Sound

[cedar lynx]

is there a "best" bottom out force or is that all just preference

[glacial wind]

preference

[hidden edge]

What are the best sounding he switches?

[crystal pagoda]

if there was one best bottom out force would they not just sell one?

[cedar lynx]

🤷‍♂️

[crystal pagoda]

🤷‍♀️

[hidden edge]

Do I have to use the switches on there website?

[cedar lynx]

which sounds better

[crystal pagoda]

No

[flat cobalt]

IMO the Pros

[glacial wind]

nah you can get others

[crystal pagoda]

Preference raw is higher pitch and weaker top out

[cedar lynx]

thoughts on the optimum case? yall know any other clean looking alluminum cases?

[glacial wind]

i think it looks great

[crystal pagoda]

Looks meh

[glacial wind]

there's a billion 60% cases though so that's all up to you

pick whatever you like the look of that is gh60 compatible

[flat cobalt]

Not a fan of it

[cedar lynx]

would you recommend any sound dampeners or. . .

[glacial wind]

? what do you mean

[cedar lynx]

idek atp

the foamy shit

[glacial wind]

it comes with foam already

[crystal pagoda]

2021 called they want their kohaku design back

type shyt

Optimum really cooked with that one

[cedar lynx]

@crystal pagoda what case you got?

[glacial wind]

just get whatever you like the look of

it's your case at end of the day lol

[crystal pagoda]

Feel > sound > looks

[ebon field]

Are sticky rice v2 W or L

[crystal pagoda]

We are human after all

[glacial wind]

they perform very mediocre for a box stem switch

i wouldn't pick them over others

[ebon field]

Ok

[crystal pagoda]

Huano or graingolds

[ebon field]

Better than Stock Lekker tho

[crystal pagoda]

Which one

[ebon field]

Everglide

[glacial wind]

both lol

[glacial wind]

yeah but you'd just buy raw he or jade pro over them any day

[ebon field]

Are they more or less

[glacial wind]

raw he and jade pro are quite cheap right now with all the black friday deals

[ebon field]

We need a wooting switch guide

[crystal pagoda]

It exists

[glacial wind]

there are many lol

[ebon field]

Link one pls

[glacial wind]

tldr is just go buy raw he or jade pro right now

[ebon field]

Ok

[glacial wind]

i am working on something a bit better than what's out there though, but the site is still wip and will take a bit

[ebon field]

Ok

[cedar lynx]

i need someone to just tell me what keycaps to get cuz im too indecisive

[crystal pagoda]

dcs honeywell

go

[ebon field]

If you don’t want to go broke find some off Amazon

[cedar lynx]

i aint worried bout money

[ebon field]

Uh what color is the case

[cedar lynx]

just name something that looks good in darkish grey/blue/black

i have a red mousepad so ig red accent would be fine too

[ebon field]

Maybe black keycard with Japanese letters in red

[crystal pagoda]

Evil dolch

go

[ebon field]

Idk names but those would go hard

[crystal pagoda]

Evil dolch go

[cedar lynx]

🫡

?

[crystal pagoda]

yea

[cedar lynx]

meh

lmao

[wild mirage]

What about cera key ?

[cedar lynx]

that to me or you asking for an opinion?

[crystal pagoda]

😭

[wild mirage]

To you Nick

[cedar lynx]

would that sound good with an alluminum case tho?

and i feel like itd be too slick

[fallen pecan]

slick when sweaty, cold during winter, expensive af

[cedar lynx]

so for bottom out force, what should i go for? 40 50 or 60

[flat cobalt]

50 is the sweet spot for most

From what I’ve seen mentioned here

[cedar lynx]

say less

is there anything else worth getting other than a case, switches, and caps?

[flat cobalt]

Wrist rest if you need one

[cedar lynx]

i saw something bout not being able to use certain features with a coiled cable vs the the wooting usb c. need more info on that shi

last question i swear^

[marsh saffron]

Poor quality/too long coiled cables won't work with tachyon mode

Wootings is made to work with 100% brightness on tachyon

[fluid ravine]

Itsss PORON TIME

[glacial wind]

i thought thockson was over his modding sickness, but he has relapsed

he's going to start retuning his stabs 20 times in a row again

[quiet bay]

finally

[glacial wind]

let us say a prayer for him

[fluid ravine]

Dont jinx it

[fluid ravine]

Yup works like normal

I got a electric screw driver now

Finally

And still no switch opener....

[quiet bay]

so instead of manually twisting screws you still wanna manually open switches 😭

[fluid ravine]

[fluid ravine]

Well I'm gonna do what people are not willing to do

YET

Maybe yet

[stone flax]

Wait

Venom?

[fluid ravine]

Nope wooting 60he 😂

[stone flax]

What is the black thing

Foam

[fluid ravine]

Poron foam

Yeah

I have 2

I'm cutting one up

[stone flax]

Oh its poron on top of a cf?

[fluid ravine]

Yeye

[stone flax]

Ahh gotcha

Was messing with my eyes for a sec

[fluid ravine]

Hehehe

[tawdry tree]

TTC’s vs two of the same switches in a different color. 😄

[flat cobalt]

Couldn’t convince my friend to get a wooting he got a https://nuphy.com/collections/he-keyboards/products/nuphy-air60-he-magnetic-switch-gaming-keyboard

[tawdry tree]

it’s fine, Woot’s boards are pricey. 🙂

[stone flax]

Good

[ebon field]

W Build?

https://a.co/d/cSRFfWX

https://kbdfans.com/products/tofu60-redux-case?variant=41730295333003

https://a.co/d/gjTBnNY

Im gonna have a 60he base ofc

With an fr4 plate and the brass weight

[glacial wind]

seems fine to me. I don't like the fr4 plate from kdbfans personally because it has flex cuts

[ebon field]

What’s that?

[glacial wind]

basically makes the middle of the board more flexible, which you don't want for sensitive hall effect usage

[ebon field]

Ok so do you think I should go carbon?

[glacial wind]

carbon has the same issue

just stick with the module plate which is pc plate already

[ebon field]

Ok

The original plate?

[tidal frigate]

Yes

[glacial wind]

yeah, if you buy the module (not the prebuilt) then it comes with a pc plate

[tidal frigate]

I wonder how carbon plate would sound in owlabs c wooting

[glacial wind]

oh right you bought a second hand one

[ebon field]

Yeah

[tidal frigate]

Get him to transfer ownership

[glacial wind]

yeah that's a steel plate then

honestly it's fine though, i'd still rather the steel plate than the flex cut kdbfans plate

[ebon field]

What 💀

[ebon field]

Ok bet

[tidal frigate]

You can transfer ownership of keyboard in wooting hub

[ebon field]

Do I need to do that?

I bought it yesterday

[glacial wind]

it's up to you, but if you want warranty then yeah

[ebon field]

Oh then idrc

I don’t plan drowning my keyboard in Dr Pepper

[tawdry tree]

it makes it easier to get a replacement if it breaks or whatever, you’ll still have warranty without the order in your account tho

[tidal frigate]

Tho it is worth it

[tawdry tree]

so doesn’t really matter that much, just an easy of use thing.

[ebon field]

Ok ty

[fluid ravine]

I tried
Dad being a bish with me, cant cut noise for a few minutes

[tidal frigate]

Clacky

[fluid ravine]

yup

cf+raws type shit

[tidal frigate]

Too much clack for me

I prefer balance

Tho I need clacky and thockt built to get family interested in keyboards

[fluid ravine]

yeah it's really the cf plate

the plate at this point would change a "big" factor in sound profile in my board

[hollow dagger]

Have you tried alu plate?

[quartz jay]

does one of the wooting discord channels have a list of keycaps websites?

[hollow dagger]

What are you looking for?

[fluid ravine]

wanting to

i want to try alu, POM, and PP

[hollow dagger]

FR4?

[fluid ravine]

nah

[quartz jay]

Anything with PBT material

[hollow dagger]

Wooting has selections of double shot and dye sub pbt

[hollow dagger]

[harsh dove]

How you liking the case so far bro ?

[fluid ravine]

im just liking it lmao, much heavier and denser than the other one

[quartz jay]

Not my thing tbh

[fluid ravine]

im still a bigger fan of the slimmer bezels but i dont mind this at all

what abt you @harsh dove

[hollow dagger]

Yea well you can look at other sites and see their selections, e.g. kbdfans, ilumkb

[harsh dove]

I like it quite a bit for the price, Im a fan of the thicc boy bezels personally lol, and I think I've gotten it to sound pretty nice with minimal modifications

[quartz jay]

alrrr

[fluid ravine]

whatchu running so far

the same?

POM, RAWs, friction mount, uh GMK caps?

etc etc

[harsh dove]

yeah and SW Knights stabs

[fluid ravine]

yurrrr

[harsh dove]

and stock case foam insert but wanna replace with polyfill

[fluid ravine]

oh i havent tried polyfill yet

[cedar lynx]

Best keycap material to look for?

[cedar lynx]

Are stabilizers worth swapping out?

[ebon field]

Uranium

[cedar lynx]

🤔

[harsh dove]

Stock stabs are fine once lubed and tuned, but if you want after market then yeah I recommend Swagkeys Knights

[cedar lynx]

What’s a good lube?

[harsh dove]

I use Dielectric Grease for the stabilizer wire and Krytox 205g0 for the stem and housing , the wooting lube kit is also a good starter kit as well

[cedar lynx]

Stem and housing as in the switch?

[harsh dove]

No, the stem and housing of the stabilizer

[slender vine]

which stabilizers should I get for the 60 he+ board to reduce rattle as much as possible

[split dagger]

Did the 60he stabs come pre lubed?

Idk if I should lube them again or nah

[glacial wind]

they do, but factory lube can be hit or miss so if not good enough you may want to re-do them

[split dagger]

Yea I might bc its a little rattly and I never lubed stabs and would be good to try before I do my first custom build on Tuesday

[old pier]

does the 60he+ use plate or pcb mount stabs?

[glacial wind]

plate if prebuilt, pcb mount if module

but the prebuilt can be swapped to the same pcb mount ones as the module (it just comes installed with plate ones)

[old pier]

ahh ok, so theyre compatible with any stabs like tx?

also if i end up getting gateron jades I would need long pole stabs right

[glacial wind]

not any. The holes are a little tight for some, so there's a recommended list of certain stabs people use

if you get jades you don't need to swap the stabs or do anything unless you actually have wobble key issues (which rarely happen)

the large majority of people use long pole switches with regular stabs without worrying about any issues

[old pier]

I see - do you have the stabs recommended list? I took a look at the stabs faq but couldnt find it. Also any recs for 4mm travel switches?

[glacial wind]

i mean if you're just using 4mm switches i wouldn't swap at all anyway

the main recommendation for 60he is swagkey knight v2 stabs, but just know you're literally buying new stabs just because you like new stabs and not because you can't get the same improvement just lubing the stock ones

[old pier]

i see, ill prob just get the module and stick with the default stabs

thanks

[wild mirage]

Jade Max or Jade pro ?

[glacial wind]

jade pro. Jade max have friction issues

[old pier]

how about jade pros vs regular jades? I know the jade pros have higher initial force

[glacial wind]

i wouldn't buy regular jades anymore

no point

jade pros are just better

[old pier]

so im ordering the 60he module, getting a case (tofu 60 redux with a compatible plate), gateron jade pros, and some random cherry profile keycaps. Thats all I should need right?

[glacial wind]

yeah you're good

[old pier]

thanks

[latent kraken]

how much harder is it to press switches with the linear80 springs compared to stock?

[devout totem]

About 33% harder than L60

[reef cove]

can someone help me with the logitech g pro x 2 lightspeed headset

It sounds so weird

[marsh saffron]

Wdym by weird

[reef cove]

I am used to Hyperx cloud 2

but just got this headset and when shooting is so loud, but footsteps are so quiet

[marsh saffron]

Can probably try tuning it with ghub, pretty sure the software can do it

[reef cove]

i have tried several settings

nothing is good...

[thin light]

Hi, i’ve been using the Wooting 80HE for a couple of days and then suddenly all of my keys are in low brightness while the “Light Indicater”lights up as normal. I’ve tried the brightness slider but it the RGB at 100% looks like 20% I’ve tried Wooting Restore and Restoring Keyboard settings with 1k. No change on the LED.

[hollow dagger]

Are all your switches southfacing?

[little glen]

Those switches are in the wrong way of course you wont get as much rgb

You need to have the window above the rgb

[thin light]

ah dumb moment for me, just switched them out today for Geon Raw HE

thanks!

[hollow dagger]

Could be a defect too if all his switches are southfacing and these keys are lower in brightness in comparison to others

[little glen]

Yeah the geons can be abit confusing cause if you put the window at the top the text will be upside down

[untold wigeon]

what will pop on the software if i get new switches

[marsh saffron]

nothing so far

the switch selector isnt added

[untold wigeon]

oh

alr

[marsh saffron]

itll work just like it always has, switch selector should be available soon

[untold wigeon]

soon you say

[marsh saffron]

soon

[untold wigeon]

soon

[marsh saffron]

so any time from now until like 15 years from now

[untold wigeon]

thats crazy

[fallen pecan]

soon

[paper bloom]

Check ur sound settings

Or check if theres any firmware

Sometimes its probs cuz of faulty driver

[graceful musk]

Just got my 80HE and the spacebar is making that tinging noise (its normal ive seen it on YT videos etc too) is there like a common mod people are doing to remove it? Its not bothering me too much but if there is an easy fix id at least like to try it

[marsh saffron]

lube/tune stabs

[graceful musk]

What kind of lube would you reccomend?

and do I just dap it into the stab?

Also how do i get the ihaswooting tag lol

[marsh saffron]

dielectric grease for the wires, and 205g0 for the stem/housings

[graceful musk]

the 80he doesnt have normal wires like that I think

or do i have to dissemble it?

[marsh saffron]

yes you do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usNx1_d0HbQ

its quite easy to take them apart

[graceful musk]

The wire is like under the plate?

[marsh saffron]

for wooting i dont think clipping stabs is necessary

[marsh saffron]

yeah

[graceful musk]

Ah i see

Yeah im used to the wire being just visible so i didnt think it had one

I dont think I want to bother with it just yet then, I dont want to end up breaking my new baby lol

[marsh saffron]

fair enough

when you do eventually want to do it, rest easy as its fairly hard to fuck anything up

wootings are pretty easy to take apart/put back together

[graceful musk]

hmm maybe ill get around to it some time

Is it worth downloading wootility or just running the website vers?

[sacred elm]

its the same

[graceful musk]

Ah alr thank you

[inland fern]

I heard the plastic clip is easy to break

[flat cobalt]

The stabilizer?

[cold bloom]

Anyone’s X-ray keycaps cracking? Seems like this keyboard guy I follow on insta had it happen to him https://www.instagram.com/stories/oceeenn/3513437339312120154?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=MW52OXJuZmtxM256ag==

[devout sluice]

Do you guys think OEM profile or cherry profile are better on wooting?

[amber hornet]

OEM is better imo

[stone flax]

Yea ive seen it happen (pbtfans moment)

[tawdry tree]

No cracks yet. It happened before with an X-Ray set as well and the person got a replacement keycap free of change iirc.

[versed cargo]

Anyone has suggestions for an iso de keycap set

[glacial wind]

They’re almost the same. I use cherry because I’m used to it and it’s on more keycap sets, but honestly you’d adjust to either profile within a few days

[cedar lynx]

do geon raw HEs come factory lubed or do i gotta do all that myself?

[stone flax]

Factory

[cedar lynx]

is it recommended to do another coating or nah?

[glacial wind]

Not really, but you can spread the lube out a bit more evenly because machine lube is sometimes going to be not as well spread

I would lube the springs though

[obsidian elm]

where to buy geon raw HEs?

[stone flax]

Where do you live?

[obsidian elm]

japan

[stone flax]

Is shipping from korea cheap?

Try geons site and report back ig

https://geon.works/products/geon-raw-he-switch?

[amber hornet]

Depends on what you want. There are a bunch of GMK clones with iso DE layout. There are also really high quality keycaps like they sell at monacokeys, but these are like triple the price of the gmk clones

clones:
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005006885172259.html?

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005007393936770.html?

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005006550920592.html?

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005005118454839.html?

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005008054505562.html?

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005007806252505.html?

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005007626436795.html?

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005006660909685.html?

Monacokeys:

https://monacokeys.de/collections/keycaps

[versed cargo]

thanks, i ordered my wooting with iso de layout but without keys. so could i just use uk iso instead ? because the keycaps are the same ? or are the internals different ?

Can you jsut put your kb input into uk iso ?

[amber hornet]

You could, but then you wont have those "ü, ä, ö" keys on your board

[versed cargo]

i just want nice keacaps, i dont need the ü,ä,ö kweys i guess. you could always go ue,ae,oe, instead

[amber hornet]

you can also use macros like strg + a (o,u) to type them.
or just use the keycaps, but keep german layout. You'd just need to know where all the keys are

[versed cargo]

iso german is pretty pricy and i would like to have nice backlightning with my keys

[amber hornet]

backlighting or shine through?

[amber hornet]

second of which I'll be doing btw (also german)

[versed cargo]

Ah okay, i dont know i think shine through is what i mean, but not with the letters on top but on the side

[amber hornet]

Shine through has transparent letters, so the lighting of the keyboard lights up the letters, instead of being "printed" on the keycap

These are Shine through with Side print
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005006165803128.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2deu

[glacial wind]

Oh nice my ttc magneto poms arriving today. A nice lube session will be in order

[versed cargo]

Yeah something like this but with iso isntead of ansi i guess

[amber hornet]

Some of them are Iso compatible.

[cedar gate]

That last sentence out of context 🤣

[chilly mural]

Tasty, can't wait for your opinion on it

[glacial wind]

Nothing wrong with a nice lube session

[honest nacelle]

@glacial wind @tawdry tree my own testing, i'll publish the results on sheets later but for now it wasn't working for me (idk why)

whole board was recalibrated between each step, and the numbers are an average of 10 runs. Tested on the Rakka H60

note: no particularly unusual force was applied, so generally no more than maybe 300g of force was used

also due to the lack of 1st party support with the internal switch selector (mostly so I can match up the distances) few of the switches didn't have a direct counterpart (raw he was matched up with jade pro, and raptor HE the ks20u). Both lekkers were matched as ks20 white, and the jade (normal) was matched correctly

[high sphinx]

Hey guys i have a question i ordered some geon raw he switches and i ordered some cherry profile keycaps but when i put in the new switches do i have to make sure they are sourh facing or does it not matter ?

[tidal frigate]

Yes and no

Do you want better rgb?

Also they are compatible with most mx style keycaps

[high sphinx]

@tidal frigate Rgb does not really matter for me but i heard u can just put them in the normal way but i am not sure.

[tidal frigate]

Just put them north facing

[high sphinx]

https://monacokeys.de/collections/keycaps?filter.p.m.custom.language_layout=gid%3A%2F%2Fshopify%2FMetaobject%2F89819709773&sort_by=manual

On this site if you go to french iso the black in grey are the keycaps i ordered

But i will put them in north facing ty guys

[tawdry tree]

A few questions; about the flux values, are they actual magnetic flux or raw data (after calibration) similar to the SayoDevice? The values at resting positions of the switches are really similar, something I didn’t find in my tests using the Sayo.

Was the stability measured externally or is that something Rakka does as well?

wish I could collapse text on disc..

• Lekker L60 (new)

• Initial: 869.20 (-2.38%)

• End: 5728.80 (-0.91%)

• KS-20 W (new)

• Initial: 890.40 (0.0%)

• End: 5781.20 (0.0%)

• KS-20 W

• Initial: 883.00 (-0.83%)

• End: 5770.80 (-0.18%)

• KS-20 O

• Initial: 859.80 (-3.43%)

• End: 5762.00 (-0.33%)

• KS-20U W

• Initial: 764.60 (-14.13%)

• End: 5767.20 (-0.24%)

• KS-20U O

• Initial: 659.40 (-25.94%)

• End: 5587.60 (-3.35%)

• KS-20T

• Initial: 1097.20 (+23.22%)

• End: 5642.60 (-2.40%)

• KS-20T P

• Initial: 953.60 (+7.09%)

• End: 5446.40 (-5.80%)

• Geon Raptor HE

• Initial: 968.00 (+8.72%)

• End: 5883.40 (+1.77%)

• Geon Raw HE

• Initial: 918.80 (+3.19%)

• End: 5570.60 (-3.65%)

• MoyuStudio Black Knight

• Initial: 749.80 (-15.79%)

• End: 5649.00 (-2.29%)

• Teamwolf Light Wind

• Initial: 716.80 (-19.53%)

• End: 5603.20 (-3.08%)

• Latenpow Strawberry V2

• Initial: 959.80 (+7.80%)

• End: 5879.80 (+1.71%)

• Latenpow White

• Initial: 973.20 (+9.29%)

• End: 6866.80 (+18.79%)

• Latenpow Strawberry

• Initial: 968.80 (+8.81%)

• End: 6857.40 (+18.65%)

[versed cargo]

So what are the best switches on the market then ?

[honest nacelle]

Raws

[versed cargo]

Geom raw he?

[honest nacelle]

Yes

[tawdry tree]

Raws overall, TTCs for stability , Jade Pros

[honest nacelle]

Raw data after calibration, I calibrated at every step to give the switches the best possible chance to perform

[tawdry tree]

I see, so this wouldn’t show the actual magnets’ strength at resting/bottom out right?

[honest nacelle]

Why wouldn't it? Calibration just accounts for natural fluctuation

[sacred elm]

[tawdry tree]

Hmm, I think because it is after calibration and the values are very similar. Couldn’t calibration change based on the strength of the magnet, causing raw data and actual magnet strength to be different (not proportional).

If Raw Data shows before a switch is inserted, could you try installing a switch without calibrating?

[honest nacelle]

So crazy thing

The nature of auto calibration means it happens automatically and without my input

And I already told you

[tawdry tree]

I see.

[honest nacelle]

Autocalibration just applies an algorithm to essentially 'smooth' out the fluctuations to a point where the values aren't fluctuating wildly

But the values still stay the same

Or in the same general region

But I didn't post that to argue with you, more to prove my point that autocalibration takes most of the issues out

Tolerance helps for stability but at the end of the day it doesn't really matter since the algos are so good that it's moot point

[tawdry tree]

I’m just asking questions if you’re open to it.

If test results are different, that’s interesting I’d say.

[honest nacelle]

Tests results show different numbers because of different sensors

Plus, I know the sensors sayo used are cheap as balls

I'll double check with chill later but iirc they're like 10c per sensor

[honest nacelle]

Evidently one of us is using a tmr sensor

[tawdry tree]

proportionality, and Raptor HEs have caused issues for a few people here because of their stronger magnets.

[honest nacelle]

Probably rakka/me since the pcb is so damn expensive

[honest nacelle]

Those were fixed ages ago

First few batches were stronk magnets but they've been fixed for a long time iirc

[tawdry tree]

The old ones were yeah, it went through two different sensors I believe. Sayo’s Discord has a lot of info.

[honest nacelle]

I'll visit it later but they still use cheap sensors

And I know this because if they weren't using cheap sensors the board would be way more expensive

[analog mulch]

jade pro's or black knights for a quiet switch?

[honest nacelle]

Even my mate who is designing a board was talking abt price and not using the cheap sensors brings the board estimate to ~60usd

Which is +50% on the sayo with a plate

[honest nacelle]

Raw he

And none of them are quiet

[tawdry tree]

It’s $20 for a board with 3 buttons. I believe the sensors are the same as HM, 1320 is what it says on mine, if that tells you anything.

[analog mulch]

i have raw he, but they are so scratchy after 2 weeks

[tawdry tree]

Black Knights are more quiet of them.

[tawdry tree]

After two weeks?! Did you use them 24/7?

[analog mulch]

well i had a surgery on my knee so i only stay on the pc and stuff 😛

[honest nacelle]

Where are you getting your info that it's the same as HM? And I was talking abt the 60% but it stands for the o3c series. If the board cost 20 bucks, then maybe but knowing sayo they're likely not bottom of the barrel but far from what I would call good sensors

But I'll do my own digging later

[tawdry tree]

Ah, you could try relubing?

[analog mulch]

maybe ill try it first since their factory lubed

[tawdry tree]

As I said, Sayo’s discord has a lot of info, explaining the different sensors they used and the different versions there are.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, I’d suggest that especially if you like the sound and feel when you got them.

[analog mulch]

ok thank you

[tawdry tree]

do you have a switch opener?

[analog mulch]

yes

i bought one in kbdfans

i was thinking of upgrading my stabs, i have the module 60, is it worth it?

[tawdry tree]

I wouldn’t, try to tune them first if you heard any ticking.

https://youtu.be/xlSIIZqyQR0

[analog mulch]

ok thank you

[round violet]

This is my first time moddifying a keyboard, I was wondering what the differences between the 3 jade switched are. The normal jades, jade pros, and the jade max switch. I want to retain the performance of the wooting while making the sound better any suggestions?

[hard moon]

Geon Raw HEs

[sacred elm]

Jade pros are improved version of OG jades with better stem wobble and 20mm longer spring, jade maxes are ass, they have sticking issue.

get jade pros, they are very nice

[agile grove]

jades are the originals, jade pros are a direct upgrade of the originals, jade maxes are a clear version of the jade pros. I would go with jade pros, since the maxes have some really bad friction issues right now.

[round violet]

I saw those I just like the sound of the jades q little more thank you though

[round violet]

Probably will go with these I didn't know that the max had sticking issues

[round violet]

Okay thanks didn't know about the sticking

[untold wigeon]

ks-20 not compatible with wooting?

[uneven cradle]

They are #🪛│modding_faq message

[untold wigeon]

oh it is, excuse me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx2J6e80xpk

how do they compare with lekkers v2 or jades pro? in terms of sound? they seem more quiter

[stone flax]

Geon raw he

[stone flax]

Shittier

[agile grove]

ks-20s are literally just lekker v1s

[graceful musk]

What is the esiest way to deal with spacebar ping? I have a little on my 80HE

Do i have to disasemble it and lube it or whatever?

I think its spacebar ping at least im not suer well versed in keyboard lingo 😅

https://youtu.be/ccp4fdRJohc?si=9WuPJeygKAYFZmgs&t=16 it sounds a little like this guys spacebar but mine is not that bad

Its jsut super noticable because the rest of keys souns soooo good

lmfao

[untold wigeon]

ty

[cold bloom]

yeah I remember seeing that

[cedar lynx]

anyone know if the tkl or 65% kits are compatible with the 60he

[halcyon flax]

Anyone know of any website to get anime keycaps

I want tower of god keycaps but it ain’t popular enough for people so one piece should do

[little glen]

gt-80 is probably shipping in january

at least for whoever ordered early haha

[untold wigeon]

Ttc magneto vs magneto pom?

[stone flax]

Raw he

[untold wigeon]

Over magneto?

[stone flax]

what do you want in a switch

[untold wigeon]

Better stability

I wish a silent switch, but phoenix feels cheaper from what you guys told me..so im not gonna get phoenix

[sacred elm]

get jade pro theyre on sale

[calm pulsar]

workmate overheard my board sounds and said I had a good sounding keyboard

[amber hornet]

Aliexpress is usually the place to look

[tidal frigate]

So he knows

[desert moth]

what should i choose here

[tidal frigate]

Preference

[amber hornet]

There are whole Sets but only novelties Look better imo (You gotta Look Out tho, that These are the right size as they Sometimes ship 7u spacebar instead of 6.25u

Set: https://a.aliexpress.com/_EQDaJB2

Novelties:
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EvfVShi

[desert moth]

what means 40.0 gf

[sacred elm]

its the weight of the spring

40g is lightest

50g is safest option

40 might be too light for you

[desert moth]

and i can use my old key caps?

[halcyon flax]

I found some on Etsy, none on Ali express

[halcyon flax]

I will look for novelties then, wanted some artisans too

[inland fern]

Yes

[knotty iron]

mmm yes, Raw HE is a very nice switch ✌️

[lavish kelp]

anyone tried Gateron Magnetic Jade pro/gaming/max? which one has clear sound.

[sacred elm]

Pro

[knotty iron]

jade max sucks 💀
i bought 180x of them and they have such bad friction, i tried relubing a switch several times, it fixed nothing

they just look nice

and sound good

[somber sable]

How do you silence your space key?

As easy as possible 😐

[devout totem]

Get a ghost bar
https://www.keytok.com/collections/space-bar/products/cherry-ghostbar

[subtle helm]

What plastic cases are compatible with 60HE+?

Cuz I am getting the module version

[stone flax]

gh60

so a lot lol

[pure orchid]

Hello community.
I want to do the ultimate wooting 60he+. It's my first custom keyboard and I need help with upgrades/mods.
At the moment this is what I had thought of:
• Tofu redux case or fjell.
• PC plate.
• Stabs TX AP 1.6T screw in (Would these serve me for any of the aforementioned switches?) or the wooting ones?
• Switches: I'm lost between: Jade pro, max, Geons raw
HE 50, ttc magnetos or others.
• GMK keycaps
Do you recommend any other mod? Maybe the tape mod, some other type of foam on the pob, I have seen that they sell some to put them inside the space bar or things like that to get the best sound / performance that can be achieved with a HE keyboard.
Thank you!!

[subtle helm]

Another question is what makes some cases incompatible with the 60he?

[stone flax]

usb port not aligned, lack of traymount points, being off spec/size wise, layout problems

etc etc

kinda a weird ask

[subtle helm]

Thanks for answering

[tidal frigate]

Whats your budget.

Because if u do not have budget it can Go in 1k € range

[glacial wind]

Search aliexpress for spacebar foam, it’s like $2

[pure orchid]

No budget

[edgy panther]

do whatever u want, but dont get jade maxes, thanks!

[pure orchid]

I heard they have a lot of friction problems. What are the most recommended?

[edgy panther]

its perseonal preference, for me jades pro are the right choice

[sacred elm]

Get jade pros theyre on sale right now

[edgy panther]

sound wise, bottom force/iniator force

[sacred elm]

or geon raws

[edgy panther]

also 3.5mm

travel

and they cheap lol

[stone flax]

geon raws or jade pros

[random hull]

one of these?

ffoam*

sadly cant get it in 4.5u but i suppose i can just cut the middle out until it fits

[stone flax]

jis?

[random hull]

yea

Will buy this down the line if I've succesfully done all the other stuff I guess

[pure orchid]

For the Jade pro or the geon is it a good option to put the stabs TX AP 1.6T screw in or leave the factory ones?

[sacred elm]

stock is fine

[pure orchid]

Any other mod/upgrade that you recommend? Thanks a lot

[sacred elm]

This seems enough, just do tape mod

[random hull]

ignore size but small reference, maybe it'll make less noise for being smaller (4.5U) ? wont be much left to use the foam stuff on when i cut it in pieces

[stone flax]

if u are thinking of upgrading u should probably avoid those for pcb mounts

[pure orchid]

Thanks!!

[tidal frigate]

Are you sure?

[pure orchid]

Yes

[tidal frigate]

How much money do you have in Bank account

Because you say no budget

No budget means you can go 1k€ + range right?

[pure orchid]

I don't have a budget for things that improve the performance and sound of the keyboard, I don't intend to put diamond keycaps

[tidal frigate]

No one put diamonds on keycaps yet..

Tbh i would wait for owlabs collab 60he

If you like that look

[glacial wind]

What if the diamond keycaps improve the performance though

[tidal frigate]

He said no budget

[pure orchid]

Diamond keycaps habahaha

[glacial wind]

robot arms for sure then

robot arms would be an increase in gaming performance

[tidal frigate]

So he can go and make 1/1 case in his design own with gasket mount, his keycap set from gmk. So that would be atleast 40k €

[glacial wind]

Hrm I don’t know how it worked out like this but my 60he, optimum case, keycaps and switches all arrive today even though they were each bought on different dates from different vendors in different countries

[ebon hull]

I hear all the praise about the Jades Pro. I've been using the normal Jades for awhile now, would this be considered an "upgrade" in any way (sound, feel, rgb etc.) ? Trying to decide if it's worth the effort swapping

[glacial wind]

Mainly if you’re sensitive to stem wobble or really care about min max sound

those are the improvements over normal jades

[calm pulsar]

I personally consider them an improvement
jade pros have better tolerances (cleaner sound, less wobble) and also a nicer longer spring which makes the switch feel smoother and have a snappier upstroke

but if you're content with your current board then there's no real need to upgrade

[glacial wind]

Diamond sprinkled jades though get the seal of approval

get that sparkle bling

[stone flax]

geon raw he

[mossy pagoda]

are jade pros best for minimum stem wobble?

[glacial wind]

Nah but they’re still very tight

Ttc magneto rgb or pom are the tightest for stem wobble on the market, but you’ll be giving up sound because they’re way louder and generally not as pleasant sounding

[mossy pagoda]

so best for sound + stem wobble rec is jade pros?

[calm pulsar]

sound is preference

[mossy pagoda]

jade pros are clackier right

[calm pulsar]

yeah

[mossy pagoda]

i’m between jade pros and max and want a thoccier sound

[calm pulsar]

than stock switches

[glacial wind]

For overall everything most would recommend jade pros/raw he yeah

[calm pulsar]

thoccier creamier dreamier

[glacial wind]

don’t go max. There’s been friction issues

[sacred elm]

forget thock

become clack enthusiast

[calm pulsar]

based

[robust bluff]

@kind helm hey im back

holy crap im so happy with my tape + PE foam mod lol

it made my alumaze amazing

no longer sounds like empty can HAHA

[tidal frigate]

Nice clacky board

[robust bluff]

is it still clacky?

not sure if pcb can still handle another layer of tape mod

i had to press down the pcb before screwing

[calm pulsar]

gmk wob with the cherry enter from black snail kit

[dull flare]

is the tape mod worth

[stone flax]

its literally free (or almost) bro

[dull flare]

💀

i got masking tape but am unsure if that will work

[fluid ravine]

painters and masking tape are most commonly used

just try it and see if you like it or not

if you like it keep it, if you don't just remove it

[dull flare]

so masking tape is fine?

i keep reading its bad because stickier

[fluid ravine]

yeah it's fine

[fluid ravine]

same goes for duck tape, electric tape, etc

these are much worst^ def don't recommend, if you do try to use these really adhesive tape just add a layer of painters or masking as your first layer and apply the others after

[tidal frigate]

No electric tape and duck tape has too strong glue

It would destroy PCb

[fluid ravine]

read again

[glacial wind]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqcwJ0pBOrg

[fluid ravine]

interesante

a bit gimicky

really interesante

[tidal frigate]

Wait.. it is definetly in 400€ range

And how this guy has that

[glacial wind]

owlabs send samples to reviewers

[ruby hill]

$399 in china, oversea should higher

[tidal frigate]

Maybe Alextos will get one

[glacial wind]

owlab switches are interesting

[tidal frigate]

Owlabs are selling in china wooting worldwide

[glacial wind]

it's neat that they are making a different plate for it too

[fluid ravine]

CF plate?

[tidal frigate]

Yep

[quiet bay]

[fluid ravine]

interesting color

i fw it

[glacial wind]

i wish wooting offered more plate options themselves actually

[fluid ravine]

yeah

PP when

[glacial wind]

vs. needing to buy from 3rd party to find non pc/steel options

[fluid ravine]

lul

[quiet bay]

AAAAAAA FINALLY A VIDDEO

OMG A CASE TOO

[tidal frigate]

Now I have to figure out how to disasemble owlabs case so I can send it fot cerakoting

[fluid ravine]

disassembling the front lip to insert the module

sick

[quiet bay]

wait that's crazy bounce from the case itself llol

[tidal frigate]

Wait this case has stiffness button?

[glacial wind]

i'm glad i didn't wait for it for my 60he+, I was tempted but I wouldn't use the bounce mechanics anyway

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[glacial wind]

too much bounce for me, but I can see non gamery types loving that

[tidal frigate]

@glacial wind i wonder if alexotos will get one too

[stone flax]

gimmick

[calm pulsar]

sounds like chinese plastic boards

[tidal frigate]

Is it due to switches?

Or maybe carbon fiber plate

[glacial wind]

i wonder what those switches are

[calm pulsar]

I thought there were lekkers but it seems some owlab unknown ones

[quiet bay]

it's silver 😩

[glacial wind]

should be 2 colors, that chromey/silver with rose gold and the black option

[tidal frigate]

It is beige

And red and black

[glacial wind]

now the question is who is the company doing a wooting 80he premium case that calder mentioned was a possibility

[tidal frigate]

Owlabs would do it

[quiet bay]

is it jsut the clor

or its both silver

[tidal frigate]

If owlabs x wooting 60he goes well

[calm pulsar]

looks like silver, since the yellowish mat is reflecting on the case

[tidal frigate]

Go to wooting zfrontier livestream

It is more creamy baige than silver

[quiet bay]

wish they made a white one

but silver is cool

oh wth now i realize that the accent is like a beige grey

[glacial wind]

My cheapie black on black Korean lettering keycaps arrived

Not bad actually. Thickness was good

[tidal frigate]

I wonder how easy would be to disasemble entire case

And I thought wooting would sell it as prebuilt

[glacial wind]

These arrived too

they sent 92 switches instead of 90. I always wonder if they do this on purpose to be safe because i swear every switch seller always throws in a few extra

[fluid ravine]

puts in 90
Seller: Hmmmmm
puts in 2 more
Seller: Oh noooo 2 more fell in on accident!!! Oh welll it's too late nowww..

[paper bloom]

The venom60HE is fucking GREAT

[glacial wind]

lol did you build yours at last?

[paper bloom]

YEA

Holy shit

It took a long ass while wait

[fluid ravine]

yeah his board sounds bright as hell

[paper bloom]

You want my type vid?

[glacial wind]

i was tempted to buy a 7u venom60 yesterday since it was last day for korean pre-orders, but I never use 60% anyway so having the 60he+ optimum was already overkill

[paper bloom]

Im fully phasing out my wooting until i get a TKL

And the 8k polling rate on the venom is real holy fuck

[glacial wind]

i think that's probably more the deadzone you're noticing lol

the 8k polling isn't noticable at all

[paper bloom]

Yea youre right

Nvm

But its super fast

[glacial wind]

yeah it'll have 0.2 less deadzone for you vs wooting unless your wooting was using ttc magneto or similar switches

[paper bloom]

Compared to the wooting

[paper bloom]

You want a sound test

For mine?

[glacial wind]

eh it's fine, i've heard a lot of venoms lol

[paper bloom]

Ah alright

[glacial wind]

living in korea it's been out here for a year or whatever now

[paper bloom]

O nice

Btw bro whats the value thats usually an issue

Or occurence when it comes to the venom