🔧│keyboard_modding

[fluid ravine]

I live in a package

[polar girder]

can't live on antartica cuz of treaty with aliens

that's why no country owns it just all visiting

[quasi hinge]

But it just shows you how much of your data they want. We are being slow boiled as a species to give up privacy

[polar girder]

the aliens

same thing why deep sea is "unexplored"

the aliens, bro

[quasi hinge]

lol

[kind helm]

you wonder why this gentleman is making a UFO case

maybe....

[flat cobalt]

You think the cosmos would look good mixed with wooden keycaps?

[polar girder]

idk maybe

[quasi hinge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=shared&v=kcBUa-zNDu0

[polar girder]

black stain type shit

[quasi hinge]

Maybe closer than you think

[flat cobalt]

I was gonna go with walnut

[polar girder]

could be sweet i have no idea lol

but i'll let you know if it looks good or not when you do it

[flat cobalt]

thank you lol

[quasi hinge]

Only honest feedback lol

[flat cobalt]

Best feedback

[polar girder]

lol yeah exactly

probably not even alone on earth TBH

[quasi hinge]

We are fish in a fish tank

being monitored 'allegedly'

[glacial wind]

okay I caved and bought the optimum case. Will let me mess around with the friction mount for some testing at least. Can't complain about getting it for $30 though

[chilly mural]

yey

[polar girder]

$30? sheesh

yeah lmk what you think of that

[sacred elm]

bro stole the case

[fluid ravine]

planning to cut my friction pad when i recieve mine

[polar girder]

cut why

[fluid ravine]

got some plans already in mind

[quasi hinge]

The edges will be raised

[glacial wind]

yeah i had a lot of gift card credit lol

[quasi hinge]

So the cerakote can be painted in

[fluid ravine]

im not a fan of having plate foam or pads in my board

[polar girder]

ah nice

[fluid ravine]

but for this i want to maintain the mount

[polar girder]

ah right on

yeah neat

[kind helm]

i am curious if you can mount the pcb in a similar way to actual gummy oring mount without the screws at the bottom

because i remember mark mentioned that they are removeable

[glacial wind]

you can see it in action in the video sander pinned here

[kind helm]

like if the space is just enough for the friction pad and the case doesn't bang on the pcb, then it would be pretty good

[fluid ravine]

the standoffs?

[quasi hinge]

How

[fluid ravine]

im pretty sure they answered my question about the standoffs being removable but i keep like forgetting

[kind helm]

nvm i see this i already know its the same s44t as other tray mount

[fluid ravine]

and keep thinking about it

[glacial wind]

a lot of account credit i had from past stuff

[fluid ravine]

it's the posts

[kind helm]

i thought they would make those posts smaller so that it only supports the friction pad but not the pcb

i guess not

also it doesn't look like all stand offs are removeable

[glacial wind]

you put the standoff covers over those

[kind helm]

almost got scammed by mark

[ionic breach]

stainless steel?

[low wraith]

hello im wondering if the 60HEplus module is hotswap bc i bought the optimum collab bundle and have no way of soldering the switches if so

[ionic breach]

yes

all wooting are

[glacial wind]

i love that modding is obsessed with maximum bounce in the wooting sometimes yet it would completely make 0.1 sens actuation unusable if it actually bounced as much as people want lol

[quasi hinge]

The serial number sticker portion was milled deeper

[polar girder]

the silicone over the stand off is just there so you don't push down too hard and damage pcb

[fluid ravine]

wouldn't flex be the problem?

[kind helm]

i think the fape mod is superior compare to using covers, but they are pretty good for someone new to the hobby

[quasi hinge]

So the engraving was able to be 'raised' or will have a raised feel

[glacial wind]

both, you kind of can get away with some bounce but if you're setting lowest setting actuation and rt you definitely don't want the level of bounce you'd get with some of these mods

[polar girder]

yeah i don't want any of that

[fluid ravine]

im pretty sure like flex would be a major issue but if bounce comes from the mount itself i dont think it would be that big of a problem

[polar girder]

I do kind of want jade pros tho

RIP

[fluid ravine]

or atleast in my experience

[polar girder]

i mean a lot of people want bounce but can't so settle for flex

[quasi hinge]

And since Im milling some of that metal out.... I wonder how it will affect sound

[fluid ravine]

cus usually in my board the bounce is more balanced out, like the whole module moves up and down

[fluid ravine]

and yet i feel like some people get confused between the two

[glacial wind]

yeah but the whole module moving up and down is still a factor even if it's not pcb flex

that's why even the 80he gasket is still stiff

[fluid ravine]

hm

[glacial wind]

it has some bounce but they can't make it full gasket without it literally ruining the HE sensitivity

[polar girder]

yeah it's not like it's moving slowly and steadily

[kind helm]

i tried 2 layer of fape mod, i can still type normally, but i never tried playing game on that bounce though

[polar girder]

yo are jade pros well stock lubed like raw or nah?

fape mod?

fap mod?

tf

[glacial wind]

in fact most of the higher level players I know purposely want stiffer and less bounce

[polar girder]

that's me

-higher level

🤓

[kind helm]

blame mr. turkeyson for the interesting name

[polar girder]

wtf is fape mod lol

[fluid ravine]

didn't you make that name?

i made the mod yeah sure but i didnt make the name lol

[kind helm]

#1308938534224138270 message

[kind helm]

no no no sir, i think it was you

[polar girder]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

first mentiuon of Fape mod?

[fluid ravine]

WAIT NO

IT WAS @calm pulsar LMAO

[kind helm]

LMAO

[fluid ravine]

[calm pulsar]

[polar girder]

oh you edited after

[fluid ravine]

like i do not remember naming this shi xd

[kind helm]

mb russian man setoriotype, thought only a high school young man would come up with such name

LMAO

[fluid ravine]

NAAAAAAAA

ok buddy

[calm pulsar]

xdd

[fluid ravine]

it sounds like vape so nop

could never be me

[kind helm]

[polar girder]

yeah whack name

ngl

yo i'm getting more tempted to buy jade pros

fk

[calm pulsar]

dang I guess I'm cancelling the patent

[calm pulsar]

imagine not having bought jade pros yet

🤠

[fallen echo]

none, if anything I would consider lubing some of the modifier keys (space) more. they sound very creamy and are the quitest HE I have heard so far.

[quasi hinge]

Happy with the Raws

After the jade max fiasco

im done with gateron for a while

[sacred elm]

raws with jade pro springs

[kind helm]

the foam tape mod do be pretty good though, if you use burger mount or friction mount, the keys on the edge like the mods and the number rows can sound harsh. the foam removes that harshness without messing with the sound of the switch

[fluid ravine]

60g dual stage spring WHENNNN

[kind helm]

me think goated

[fluid ravine]

longer spring WHENNN

[quasi hinge]

I respect the craft of frankenswtich but I just cant lol

[fallen echo]

raws with ttc pom magneto springs. these fuckers are loaded

[quasi hinge]

My OC would take over

[sacred elm]

it doesnt really matter, but I like longer springs just for osu, it actually makes a difference. otherwise raw springs are totally fine imo

[kind helm]

maybe l take but i think raw's spring is poopy

[glacial wind]

i wonder if gateron announces yet another switch variant at this thing later in the week

[fluid ravine]

idk why but i dont like the top out in my raws

[kind helm]

simply replacing the raw spring with lekker v1 spring was already removing a lot of the pingy sound when putting the switch close to my ear

[fluid ravine]

i have a feeling it could be my plate emphasizing on it a bit but idk

[sacred elm]

next week, gateron raw jade pro max 🔥🔥

[kind helm]

maybe you just need a set of black knight for its top housing

[fluid ravine]

pc plate isn't all so great for me either cus it makes my bottom out sounds dead so i can hear the top out more as well

[fluid ravine]

lol

[quasi hinge]

At 2$ per switch lol

the great switch grift

[kind helm]

jade knight has sexy top out sound imo

[fluid ravine]

arc do be making good fraken he switches

[kind helm]

dk if thats the top housing or the spring or both causing that

[fluid ravine]

i appreciate his hard work

[glacial wind]

yeah these switch prices recently have been silly. I still haven't ordered ttc pom to test out not because the price hurts my wallet but because i feel disgusted paying $1.15 a switch

[stone flax]

2 more gateron switches before the end of this year

[sacred elm]

1.15$ is crazy

[quasi hinge]

Totally agree, it just feels like they are taking advantage of this HE sea change

[kind helm]

any more info

[quasi hinge]

Wooting is expensive but I feel the value is there for me

but some of these switches....

ridiculous

[ionic breach]

keycaps

wires

[quasi hinge]

After 160 jade maxs gg gateron

[quasi hinge]

I avoid that because I play in the dark so need backlit

[quasi hinge]

Free but for my UAP build, I got a special custom one

[sacred elm]

is jade maxes spring size 20mm?

[kind helm]

think 18

isn't lekker a bit shorter than that

[sacred elm]

its def longer than lekkers

jade pro is 20, no clue about jade maxes

lekkers are 14

[ionic breach]

ye

[kind helm]

really? i thought lekker would be 16 or something since lekker is a bit longer than raw

[quasi hinge]

https://kprepublic.com/products/teamwolf-stainless-steel-mx-keycap-109-metal-keycap-for-mechanical-keyboard-gaming-key-ansi-light-through-back-lit-1-75u-shift?_pos=1&_sid=34a083634&_ss=r

[kind helm]

raw's spring is less than 14?! 0.0

[quasi hinge]

and im considering these for the UAP build

another wooting but in keycaps lol

[sacred elm]

no, its 15

1mm longer than lekkers 🤓 ☝️

[kind helm]

nope lekker is longer unless i am actually blind

[fluid ravine]

I gotta be tripping

[kind helm]

i specifically swap to lekker spring because they are a like 1mm longer

[ionic breach]

nah thats normal

thats why arc franked his to have good top and bottom out

[fluid ravine]

recording better not be deceiving my ears

[fluid ravine]

fuk

[polar girder]

HE things

[fluid ravine]

nah fr

[ionic breach]

im planning to do so too

[fluid ravine]

@calm pulsar what's your best top housing that you've used for raws?

or what's your best HE fraken switch you built in your opinion

im not a big fan of my raw's top out, sounds fine but there's something with it i dont like

[calm pulsar]

my current one
jade bottom (normal or pro, doesnt matter)
jade pro spring
raw stem
black knight top

[fluid ravine]

raw's bottom out sounds soft which i like and dont mind but gah damn what's with me with HE top out

[calm pulsar]

this has nice top out imo

[fluid ravine]

shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

$100+ right there

[calm pulsar]

ngl just jade pro is very close to that already

xd

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[calm pulsar]

cause of the spring and improved tolerances

[fluid ravine]

well well well

what do we have here

actually ima look into it later, someone remind me, i need to sleep for school td, gn everyone

[calm pulsar]

gngn

[fluid ravine]

ok now this is when i think the case doesn't need a badge

[sacred elm]

lmao

[polar girder]

What does the raw stem change here?

[fluid ravine]

cus like kbdfans was a bit reasonal cus it would complete the look but this one is connected to the led bar in a way while also having a weight on top of the case so i dont think it needs a badge

[polar girder]

Just tolerances or sound or anything

Both POM

raw vs Jade pro stem

[calm pulsar]

initially it was gateron stem, but it was too tight

[fluid ravine]

matching colors as well

[quasi hinge]

Not sure I like the color combos but I like where this is headed

[calm pulsar]

so raw stem fixes that

[polar girder]

Oh in the BK top housing

[calm pulsar]

while still being tight on tolerances

yh

[polar girder]

Gotcha right

[fluid ravine]

you can make them ooooo

[calm pulsar]

also when assembling, raw stem goes 2 ways into the switch, as opposed to the gateron 😄

[kind helm]

only costs 100+ dollars and 6 hours of your life

[polar girder]

Man my problem with lubing switches is that I might as well franken them at that point

[kind helm]

[kind helm]

it takes much longer though

[polar girder]

lol I bought the cheap ones.

Still need two more sets of the not cheap ones

[kind helm]

opening up extra switches took me a long a33 time

[fluid ravine]

one last quesiton, is the BK top housing compatible with raw's bottom?

if so how do they perform if you ever tried it?

[kind helm]

bro is actually thinking about the getting the black knight for the top housing

LMAO

i love it

[calm pulsar]

it doesnt fit fully, you have to really force it to fit, but it might break the housing

also the stem gets stuck

[polar girder]

Meh

Not really

Just open up another set of switches

Pretty easy

[calm pulsar]

lol they have a nice tight housing when used with raw stem

[kind helm]

actually i forgot, i took extra long cause i had to clean up the lube

[calm pulsar]

just go easy on the lube lul

[polar girder]

Pingless springs cuz why not

Already have like 5 diff springs lol

[kind helm]

thats like extra 30-60sec or something per switch

[polar girder]

I’m gonna wait a bit tho

[polar girder]

To pop open a switch? What

[polar girder]

See if anything else comes along

[kind helm]

^

[polar girder]

I don’t hate BK

But I don’t love it

It’s nice

[flat cobalt]

I almost did it; because of how Arc switch looks

[polar girder]

Yeah it’s tempting

I feel like if I did it I wouldn’t care about switches for a while lol

Plus then keep black top housing

[flat cobalt]

Literally though

[polar girder]

Instead of just go Jade pro

[kind helm]

didn't you do the black and raw instead of the jade knight or i am thinking bout the wrong person

[polar girder]

Ya… it’s pretty tempting lol

[flat cobalt]

I think that’s someone else the one with the UFO case I believe

[kind helm]

W

[vague stag]

do you really need to clean the factory lube? I never do and it works fine tbh 😄

perhaps they can better? 😮

[flat cobalt]

I know Arc is using the Jade Pro spring if I’m not wrong

But that’s a whole switch just for its spring

[kind helm]

my 3 brain cells was telling me my time don't worth s44t and hand lubing myself i know every switch is even

[calm pulsar]

going jade pro is already quite close to my franken, but bk housing and raw stem in it is a bit tighter tolerances and top out, at least in my experience

[polar girder]

Well Jade pro bottom and spring

[flat cobalt]

Ohhhh that’s true he’s using the Black Jade on his

[calm pulsar]

yeah you can do jade pro bottom, I just used black jade bottom cause black and I had it from long ago lol

[polar girder]

And black top housing

[flat cobalt]

I’ll try the Jade pros for now and then I’ll see about doing that build

[glacial wind]

i need to borrow my friends keykobo retro mixed lights

i bet that goes hard on optimum case

[kind helm]

[hollow dagger]

What does tighter tolerance mean? Less wobble?

[sacred elm]

yes

[glacial wind]

it matches the grey so well

[brave epoch]

Camera really doesn’t do it justice but the difference between these two Wooting is crazy

[flat cobalt]

Like the switches?

[brave epoch]

First one has Gateron Jades, Burger Mount, Tofu60 Case, Tape Modded, and has Switch Foam. The Second one is the stock with Lekkers

Also the custom one has screw in stabs whereas the stock one doesn’t

[vague stag]

anyone tried Tai-Hao PBT double-shot keycaps?

[uneven cradle]

The keykobo red alert is calling my name

https://tenor.com/view/thirsty-spongebob-i-dont-need-it-sweat-gif-5031443

[kind helm]

made this for a lady, they not bad :3

[solar tundra]

How is the Sound? Wobble?

[kind helm]

@calm pulsar finally tried poly fill

really easy to make bouncy, but sound is less even compare to fape mod

[calm pulsar]

well it's probably more of a modifier, than actual mounting thing

[kind helm]

yeee

also the uneven maybe skill issue

[deft wing]

OMG changing to GEON Raws from Lekkers are godsend

[glacial wind]

glory to geon and all that he touches

[kind helm]

i actually don't think it changes the sound a lot in terms of how the switches sounded originally. it takes out the hollowness, and maybe a little bit deeper sounding than fape

[calm pulsar]

yeah that seems to be the nice thing about polyfill, it doesnt make it sound like foam which is boring these days

[kind helm]

think mj mentioned something about this as well, but yea seeing this irl is kinda amazing

[vague stag]

ty, I am really considering these (this they would look really nice)https://www.maxgaming.se/sv/keycaps/pbt-double-shot-keycaps-nordisk-layout-exotic

[kind helm]

from the options you have on that website, nowadays i probably go for kbdfan or wuque brand stuff though tbh

[vague stag]

yeah, I have a couple now but more looking for the estethics and look of the keeb

[kind helm]

still prefers without poly fill. took out the fill and compared a little. no more crazy bounciness but sound so clean and refreshing

[tidal spade]

What are all the types of foaming

Like the layers

I keep seeing people put like 3 different foams in different spots on the keyboard

And switch foam?

Like wtf are all of the types and which ones are the most important to do

I need a list of the best mods to do for my wooting cuz I’m lost this is what I got so far

Tofu case
Raw switches
Tape mod
Burger mount (from wooting module)

What else do I do? People keep saying lube stabs but idfk im so lost . People also say it’s preference, like stfu just tell me what to do

[ionic breach]

lubing stabs isnt preference

its always going to be better if u do it right

[flat cobalt]

I wanna do it wrong

[tidal spade]

Ok I’ll do it then, what else

[ionic breach]

80he?

[flat cobalt]

60

since they said Tofu

[ionic breach]

oh ya

[flat cobalt]

Unless there’s a Tofu case for the 80

that people are hiding from me

[ionic breach]

then tune stabs - make it straight (search on google)

if the space is too hollow, add some tape/foam into it

bag lube the raw springs if u have some and a switch opener

[tidal spade]

6p

What space too hollow

[ionic breach]

if the space bar sounds hollow

[tidal spade]

Wouldn’t I just use the same lube from the stabs

[ionic breach]

spacebar -> big -> more air -> hollow

[tidal spade]

Add what tape or foam? I’m already doing tape mod

[paper bloom]

Usually

[ionic breach]

any masking tape/low addhersion tape

[tidal spade]

There’s another place to place the tape near the spacebar

[paper bloom]

if the spacebar is hollow

U can add foam into it or tape

but make sure to layer it

[tidal spade]

INSIDE THE SPACEBAR?

Or the case

[paper bloom]

IN THE SPACE BAR

IF it pings

or it sounds hollow

[tidal spade]

Like in the actually key cap

[ionic breach]

the stabs require 2 types of lube

[tidal spade]

Of the spacebar

[paper bloom]

wait

[ionic breach]

ya stuff it in the keycap

[paper bloom]

OAY

OKAY*

you got a tofu

[tidal spade]

Actually or u trolling

[paper bloom]

Do you have it with the brass

or no?

[ionic breach]

actually

[paper bloom]

It depends

Ive done it b4 and sounds less hollow

BUT if youre running a brass plate in the tofu case it isnt so bad

[ionic breach]

i like it hollow so i dont care

[ionic breach]

are u? @tidal spade

[paper bloom]

Lubing depends on the switches

[paper bloom]

I am

I got my tofu with 60G RAW HE switch

[tidal spade]

I’m not using brass plate

[ionic breach]

[paper bloom]

o lol and uhh

okay then

[ionic breach]

replace that area with foam/wood

[paper bloom]

The poron pad shld be good as well

Or some sort of EVA foam

[tidal spade]

Poron pad from module?

[paper bloom]

from the tofu

[tidal spade]

Should I polyfill too

[ionic breach]

the reason its there is also because it dampens sound

[paper bloom]

If you want to

Go ahead

[ionic breach]

that one actually is preference

[paper bloom]

What sound signature are you looking tat mainlky

At mainly*

Thocky or?

Clacky

[tidal spade]

Thocky but I’m using raws

[paper bloom]

@tidal spade If youre going to do a thocky version Tofu60 with a RAW HE switch shld be a bit more hollow but the switches shld settle it

RAWS are thocky

They dont clack as much

unless u overfill

[tidal spade]

So no polyfill then?

[paper bloom]

For the time being

just use it

if u feel that it isnt any fuller or u still find it not thocky

PolyFill

If u find ur spacebar being so hollow

Fill the spacebar keycap INSIDE with a EVA foam or tape

[tidal spade]

MODS:
Polyfill
Foam from wooting module
Tapemod
Lube and tune (straighten) stabs
Fill space where brass bar would go with poron that comes with tofu
Tape inside the spacebar

[paper bloom]

What stabilizers

[tidal spade]

Anything I’m missing

[paper bloom]

are you going for?

The module alrdy has screw ins

[tidal spade]

Idk should I swap them

Or just lube and tune

[paper bloom]

id say keep it if you find the main wires are not so good or

U wanna swap them out

You can

Id say go for swag keys knights or some other stabs

[ionic breach]

both works

it depends on if u want to spend the extra money and effort for a little difference

[tidal spade]

Nah idrc about stabs that much

Do keycaps matter

The material of the keycap

[ionic breach]

ye

[tidal spade]

I haven’t chose any yet idk what ones to get

[paper bloom]

@ionic breachim building an entirely new keeb now

[ionic breach]

id reccomend either dyesub (not reverse) pbt or doubleshot abs

[paper bloom]

LOL

[ionic breach]

[paper bloom]

Get any it works so long as it is cherry compatible

with the + stem

[tidal spade]

Cherry + compatable

[paper bloom]

The kapco is a good start

[ionic breach]

mx compatible is usually what they say

almost all are

[tidal spade]

Do I need a switch pad

[ionic breach]

nah

u can if u want to experiment

[paper bloom]

not required

[tidal spade]

MODS:
Polyfill
Foam from wooting module
Tapemod
Lube and tune (straighten) stabs
Fill space where brass bar would go with poron that comes with tofu
Tape inside the spacebar
Bag lube springs
Burger mount from wooting module

So I just need to buy tape, lube, polyshit, and the rest comes with the tofu and wooting module?

[ionic breach]

2 types of lube btw

but ya

[tidal spade]

1 for spring and 1 for stab

[paper bloom]

no need

only is enough

If he plans to switch out stabs

He just need 1

[tidal spade]

U don’t need to lube new stabs?

[paper bloom]

I do

And u do

[ionic breach]

knights?

[paper bloom]

Can be any

Knights,type plus

and so on

[tidal spade]

So then why do I only need 1 lube

[paper bloom]

The kryptox 205g0

[tidal spade]

I thought I need 1 for spring 1 for stabs

[paper bloom]

is enough for an entire

stabilizer set

If youre lubing the switches u need kryptox 105g0 or 205g0

All stabs u buy

[ionic breach]

those count listed are better because u only need 1 type of lube

[paper bloom]

Like the Swag keys knights v2

[ionic breach]

so its easier

[paper bloom]

are required to be lubed

they dont come into the box pre lubed

No point running grease like permatex if ur lube is alrdy kryptox since ur alrdy gonna buy lube

Thats how i see it

[tidal spade]

I only need to lube springs and stabs

?

Or should I lube raws too

[ionic breach]

raws are alr very well lubed

i wouldnt recommend touching it

unless its really fked or smt

[tidal spade]

But springs u do?

[ionic breach]

u can

springs arent lubed stock

it helps remove ping from the springs

[paper bloom]

What?

Are we talking about

STABILIZERS or switches now

[ionic breach]

switches

the springs in the switches

[tidal spade]

Ur saying I can use the same kryptox 205g lube for baglubing the springs and the stabilizers?

[paper bloom]

Springs in the switches ARE PRE lubed

esp for RAW GEON HE

You gotta clean it

b4 u lube it

U lube the springs

[ionic breach]

they are?

[paper bloom]

Yes

[tidal spade]

Oh then I’m not gonna lube it if it’s already

No point

[ionic breach]

wait lemme open it

[tidal spade]

Unless it’s somehow better to clean and relube

[ionic breach]

i never checked ngl

[paper bloom]

Like i said it depends

[paper bloom]

THEY ARE

WHY WOULDNT ANY SWITCH BE PRE LUBED?

[ionic breach]

the switch i know is lubed

[paper bloom]

It'll say that it is factory or not

THE springs in the switches are lubed

[ionic breach]

but springs usually arent

[paper bloom]

They are

now

apparently

[ionic breach]

🔥 innovation

[paper bloom]

U can check i can b wrong in this matter

but 100% it shld be lubed

[zealous pecan]

Is it normal for geon global to take multiple days before fulfilling orders?

[tidal spade]

https://swagkeys.com/products/sw-knight-stabilizer

[ionic breach]

its lubed

[tidal spade]

So $15 comes with all the stabs I need

[ionic breach]

long pole, 1.6mm

[tidal spade]

It only says long pole

[ionic breach]

get that then

[tidal spade]

So I just buy 1 long pole?

[paper bloom]

WHAT

NO

DONT GET LONG POLE

WTF?

[tidal spade]

What do I do

[paper bloom]

THE GEONS ARE 3.4

GET STANDARD

[ionic breach]

what?

[paper bloom]

the 2u kit options is just the side it isnt the full thing

YEA

GEONS ARE STANDARDS

LOL

[ionic breach]

3.6 and below is for long pole

[paper bloom]

LONG poles are for jades

DUDE im running standard GEON He 60G with SW V1 standard

It works

[ionic breach]

it works but long pole is better for it

[paper bloom]

idk honestly cuz i dont run long pole

But better to run standard

[ionic breach]

standard will allow you to change to a full length switch down the line

[ionic breach]

but usually for this length ^

[tidal spade]

So do I just buy 1 standard for $15

And it has everything I beed

[paper bloom]

3.4 for STANDARD

Long poles are 3.6

and above

[tidal spade]

Do I need to straighten them

[paper bloom]

Standard

[tidal spade]

Or just lube

[paper bloom]

no

Lube

[paper bloom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxHb6CJc9V8&t=596s Follow the lubing part

[tidal spade]

Ok JUST 1?

[paper bloom]

YES

its enough

Since the standard pack is 3.4 compatible long poles are a bitch esp the space bar

unless u get a spacer

The wooting PCB is 1.6mm u dont need to use the shims when its in the box

Attach and lube accordingly, You dont need the 7u so leave it in the box

@ionic breach If he runs long poles on a 3.4 he'll need a 0.5-0.4 spacer

Even if it works on the sides but the space bar is gonna be a gamble

[ionic breach]

hold up

im quite sure that its the other way round

[paper bloom]

nope

[tidal spade]

K I’m buying from omnitype instead of swagkeys, cuz swagkeys is $16 shipping omnitype is $5

[paper bloom]

jades are 3.5-.6

[paper bloom]

wait hold on for a bit

ima see what @ionic breach Dis boi say

[tidal spade]

Ok

https://omnitype.com/products/lube-pen?_pos=1&_sid=a6257d1b2&_ss=r

Also is this worth or na

For stabs

[ionic breach]

lekkers are 4.0

and they use normal

unless i am mistaken badly

[glacial wind]

...

[paper bloom]

O FFS

[glacial wind]

what am i reading

[paper bloom]

JUST GET standard

[glacial wind]

counter you are confused

[paper bloom]

How am i confused?

[glacial wind]

you get long pole stabs for long pole switches

[paper bloom]

O wait jades are longer than 4.0

[ionic breach]

3.6

[paper bloom]

But GEONS arent Long pole?

[ionic breach]

lekkers are 4.0

[glacial wind]

aka geon raw/jade pro etc are all long pole travel length

[paper bloom]

Oh

OKAY cool good to know

[glacial wind]

they're not technically long pole but we refer to all of these switches as long pole due to them sharing the same length

[paper bloom]

No wonder

WELP either way long pole or not for stabs it'll cook

[glacial wind]

long pole stabs are typically referred to as switches around 3.5mm or shorter

[paper bloom]

i see

[tidal spade]

So standard or long poll

[paper bloom]

Personally any works

Coming from swag keys

[ionic breach]

ye any works lmao

[tidal spade]

What’s the best

[paper bloom]

IF you ask me

[glacial wind]

either work fine, but if you specifically want it just for raw he/jade pro then long pole

[paper bloom]

Standard is kinda rlly enough

its ur choice

[tidal spade]

Will it effect anything

[paper bloom]

nope

[glacial wind]

they're literally the exact same stab but one is designed to avoid any keycap wobbling on longer keys like space bar for long pole switches

one isn't better or worse, they're just fit to the switches you want to use better

[tidal spade]

So which one for raw

[glacial wind]

long pole if you think you'll stick with those switches

the only disadvantage of long pole stabs is if you change to full travel switches in the future then it doesn't fit

[tidal spade]

But standard fits any?

Without any draw backs

[glacial wind]

no

standard is the reverse

you just compensate the other way, so if you get keycap wobble you install a spacer on it

one is sized for 4mm travel, and one is sized for 3.5mm or less travel.

[tidal spade]

Ok I’ll just do long then

[paper bloom]

Ye do long easier for u

[tidal spade]

Also is this pen worth or na https://omnitype.com/products/lube-pen?variant=44825460539561

[paper bloom]

mb then

[tidal spade]

For lubing the stabs

[safe plaza]

https://www.melgeek.com/products/melgeek-mojo68-plastic-see-through-custom-programmable-mechanical-keyboard?variant=43999426445566
anywhere I can get this quality of graphic design keycaps?

[glacial wind]

depends on the stabs

if you're getting knight v2 then yeah that's fine

[paper bloom]

Btw do u have the typeplus x yikb?

[tidal spade]

This what I’m buying

[tidal spade]

No r those better

[glacial wind]

those are standard stabs aren't they?

they say standard there and not long pole, unless it's just a description thing

[paper bloom]

Change to long pole if u are getting long pole

[tidal spade]

O fuck

[paper bloom]

Uhh i mean

YEA it is

[tidal spade]

K I changed

[paper bloom]

cuz lesser wobble

but swag keys is enough

and theyre rlly good

[glacial wind]

yikb don't come with long pole and no they're not better, they're just different

either knight v2 or yikb are fine stabs

[paper bloom]

actually it depends on the switches too

So uhh yea both are good

@ionic breach Mb then

LOL

[ionic breach]

nw

it has weird naming forsure

[paper bloom]

Sometimes its weird sometimes its confusing

Either way long poles or non long poles shldnt rlly matter 😂

[tidal spade]

K just ordered

I already have painter tape

All I need is something to polyfill with

So this is what I do:

polyfill
wooting foam
tape layers
tofu poron
wooting module burger mount
swap and lube stabs
switches
keycaps
tape inside space bar if need

IN THIS ORDER?

@ionic breach @paper bloom

[sacred elm]

order some cheap foam for spacebar instead of tape

[paper bloom]

Yea looks good to me

[tidal spade]

Do I need to hole mod them or no

[paper bloom]

dont gotta

[tidal spade]

kk good

[drowsy meteor]

It’s just the module with zinc case raws, it’s on a keeb mat and it has the silicone feet on it too

Gmk keycaps obviously also

Stock foam

I didn’t tape mod it either

[stone flax]

just fix stabs and ur done

is this ya first board

[stone flax]

no

i think this is the one they made where you cant refill it

[spice plover]

anything going on sale for black friday?

[hollow dagger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTmfsY8fH68&pp=ygUJbWlsa3Rvb3Ro

Haven't seen anyone talking about the Everglide Master

[chilly mural]

Never heard about that too here

[ionic breach]

they sound bubbly

[glacial wind]

this video seems more designed to sell the switches he has vs. an actual list of top 5 hall effect switches lol

[ionic breach]

ofc

but still looks promising

[hollow dagger]

looks like it

I'll reserve my judgement until someone here gets it

[chilly mural]

Lmao, feels like that's the case too

[spice plover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldm3_E2Ekj0 i found this sneaky video, how do some people already have the friction fit pads?

[hollow dagger]

I'm too traumatized by getting the jade maxes way too early before people giving their 2c on the switch

[ionic breach]

some in batch 1 alr got it

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1070668460905988106

[hollow dagger]

Only way to get it is via the optimum case atm

[glacial wind]

yeah all the EU batch 1 guys have theirs sent out already i think

it's the NA batch that got jammed up by them still doing 80he units

[hollow dagger]

This is irrelevant but how do you guys get your roles in this server. I feel so homeless.

[glacial wind]

sync discord with wooting hub

[spice plover]

hmmmm i wonder if I can buy one from one of the people not using it from EU

i just want that friction pad

[glacial wind]

just wait a bit, they'll sell it separately

[hollow dagger]

found it, thanks

[spice plover]

does it replace the silicone sandwich pad?

[glacial wind]

yeah

[hollow dagger]

They did say they're going to sell it separately in the near future

[glacial wind]

it's just a replacement that's bigger so it friction fits into cases

[hollow dagger]

I do hope in a month or somn

[spice plover]

just curious, why doesnt the silicone pad make the typing experience softer?

like compared to this other friction fit pad?

[glacial wind]

Because one means you're still screwed into the case

and one means you're suspended in the case by silicone

[hollow dagger]

Don't get it though, the tray mount standoffs are still there, won't there still be pcb to metal contact?

[spice plover]

oooo

[glacial wind]

yeah, it's not meant to be a full gasket mount replacement

[spice plover]

so like its basically aa double stackked silicone pad

[glacial wind]

it's just a slightly softer feel

[hollow dagger]

unless you grind down all the standoffs

[glacial wind]

and isolates the module better since it's not screwed in

[glacial wind]

honestly i wouldn't be surprised to see someone do that

people do some crazy mods here sometimes

[hollow dagger]

sometimes?

isn't that literally why we're here?

[glacial wind]

the friction fit pad is just a replacement to oring friction mounting

just a cleaner version of it

[spice plover]

o wow

bro thats awesome

[hollow dagger]

So basically just a marginal upgrade

[glacial wind]

sidegrade really

just another option for people who want to isolate the module a bit better and have a tad softer feel

some people prefer stiffer, some people softer

[spice plover]

i thought the friction fit pad would replace the PC plate

and have a softer bottom out from the top somehow xD

[hollow dagger]

Idk if it's possible to have silicone as a plate

but I like where your mind is

[glacial wind]

hrm the wooting stock caps don't look too bad with the optimum case actually

[hollow dagger]

honestly the wooting stock caps aren't bad at all.

regret didn't get myself a set during my purchase

[glacial wind]

still prefer some other caps, but it does match okay with it

[spice plover]

yeh i regret not ordering mine

well the optimum case that is

[hollow dagger]

Would've jumped the gun if the bezel wasn't as wide as my forehead.

but to each their own, some people actually like the wide bezel

[spice plover]

yeah honestly i have a salvage case so i dont think i would have even used the case i just want the friction pad faster

[glacial wind]

i might trade my osume dalgona set away for keykobo retro mixed lights to fit the optimum case

[spice plover]

but i still really like the look of it.

[hollow dagger]

can you link me where I can find a salvage case

[spice plover]

oops i meant salvation

i just looked it up and was on the darkside for a bit

[hollow dagger]

Salvage sounded right till i couldn't find it on Google

[spice plover]

haha yeah it does sound good

my brain on no sleep = salvage case

[hollow dagger]

Holy moly almost 300

How good is it compared to other selections?

[spice plover]

i have a tofu case too

hmmmm its a lot of fun. the bounce is really nice

[hollow dagger]

Everything is almost sold out so it must be good at something

[spice plover]

yeah its just a better tofu o ring mod

i would say better value for the tofu ur getting like a honda civic with modded suspension

then the salvations like a BMW suspension

[spice plover]

is there anyway to have a plate mod that makes the key presses softer for the bottom out? like idk even on the keycaps have some sort of "pole" silicon key caps on each individual corner or like a plate that comes with something of this sort that makes the bottom out of each keypress like this?

[glacial wind]

for he that type of mod wouldn't be done via the plate

since you want the plate to be stiff to ensure good HE accuracy

[sacred elm]

this is the worst video ive seen for a while

[hollow dagger]

Just wanted to bring up everglide master into a discussion bud

[drowsy meteor]

Does the spacebar foam stuff work?

[sacred elm]

It slightly helps with hollow sound

[flat cobalt]

Do you know when the GT80 goes on sale?

[sacred elm]

they said black friday

[flat cobalt]

I want it now

[sacred elm]

green?

[flat cobalt]

Nah I was thinking of going black or gray. Wanna match it with my Cosmos Alphas and some wooden keycaps along the sides

Idk why I typed orange

[sacred elm]

white

[flat cobalt]

I mean that could work too actually

That E White

[sacred elm]

https://tenor.com/view/danger-alert-siren-alarm-red-light-gif-16931369

[flat cobalt]

Is that the one you’re gonna go for?

[sacred elm]

nah

Ill get white with golden strap buckle or whatever its called

without a badge

[chilly mural]

Can almost vibe with this pink. But it's $120 tho

[sacred elm]

120$ is fine

[chilly mural]

I guess

[tropic urchin]

If it’s not 1$20 I don’t want it

[chilly mural]

But that would mean switching out from my planned gmk

which is like no, I'm already too deep

maybe white can do

[flat cobalt]

I might just go black so it matches my pc case

[sacred elm]

black is so nice

especially with those keycaps on the picture

[flat cobalt]

It is; really pretty case I’m glad you posted it in here. If not I wouldn’t have ordered the 80HE

[shy quiver]

Is there any way to fix the sound😭

[cinder mango]

for a 60he using the optimum key caps should I get the geon raw he or Jade pros also I've seen some people say you need to lube the raw hes is that true?

[main frigate]

havent noticed wobble except on an artisan that sits taller, sound is a dull thock not very loud but a satisfying actuation thru

[ionic breach]

3 things you could do

id recommend relubing it and tune the wires first

then take out the stab pads if you dont want it

[shy quiver]

Thank u

[hollow iron]

boys in you opinion what is the best he switch that i can buy in amazon ?

[main frigate]

he or otherwise?

[hollow iron]

only he for the wooting he80

[sacred elm]

if you want to buy from amazon probably jade pro

[polar girder]

Yeah

[exotic inlet]

Too saturated

[cedar gate]

Yeah I like 80% better than 75% those keys need to breathe lol

[ionic breach]

he means colour

[cedar gate]

Lol I kind of see it🤣

[exotic inlet]

This

[cedar gate]

I'm more of a grayscale guy anyway so my opinions on color of a keyboard are biased

[exotic inlet]

Would you guys choose silver with gold accents or black accents

[cedar gate]

For sure absolutely

Oh wait I misunderstood

Gold accents

[exotic inlet]

Does that mean gold or black lol

[cedar gate]

Too early in the morning

English is unlocked at 10am

[exotic inlet]

You are a little bit distracted atm 😂

[sacred elm]

lol

[cedar gate]

I do prefer black with gold accents or black with red accents that looks really good to me maybe simulate it and see?

[exotic inlet]

The black one doesn't appeal to me, I would either choose the silver, dark grey or green

[cedar gate]

Dark Grey looks even better than black imo

[exotic inlet]

Yep

[devout totem]

Jade Max and TTC Magneto are available in US Amazon. Compared to regular Jades and Lekker v1 switches, the Max feel and sounds better for me. 90pcs Jade Max are $.88/switch right now at Amazon

[sacred elm]

jade max 💀

[agile grove]

those who know 💀

[polar girder]

Imagine buy Jade max in 2024

https://tenor.com/view/sockzilla-allosaurhouse-puppet-funny-godzilla-gif-1766658539574916455

[polar girder]

Yes

[magic walrus]

oh didnt found that thanks

[agile grove]

german stare 😐

jamaican smile

balkan rage

ok unc

dead meme ong

[wispy tapir]

Does anyone konw if the Gateron Magnetic Jade Switches come pre-lubed?

[kind helm]

yes but dont think its a good choice unless that is specifically what you want :3

[wispy tapir]

Why isnt that the case? Thought lubing your switches only gives benefits🤔

[kind helm]

i meant jade is not a good choice since there are newer better options

[wispy tapir]

For Example?

[kind helm]

wooting lekker v2, geon raw he, gateron jade pro

[wispy tapir]

Thank your very much, will take a look

[drowsy meteor]

The jade maxes also like stick to you keycaps 😆 so if you pull the keycap out 9/10 tomes the switch goes too

[worthy rover]

what are good alternatives to jade maxes?

[wicked geode]

I have been liking the Sticky Rice V2's actually. They sound the thockiest of pretty much any switch that you can get at the moment. Jade Pro is probably the second best in that category. Only thing I might think about changing on them is the spring. It is a little bit heavyt.

[cedar gate]

no lol at 25 im one of the younger people in the sub

[cedar gate]

the two most people like are jade pros and geon raws so i would listen to sound tests on both of them RAWs are also super stable and nice to type on

[silver grove]

so the venom 60 is getting kind of hyped atm what are the benefits of it compared to the wooting pcb?

[polar girder]

I think it’s basically adjustable layout (split backspace and/or 7u spacebar), 8k polling, daughter board compatible

Plus everything Geon touches is gold

So there’s that

[cedar gate]

8khz and waaaay cheaper

[kind helm]

better price, gummy oring mount cut out, daughter board, 8k pulling

[polar girder]

How much is itv

[kind helm]

personally i love the fact that theres no cringy rgb but some like it

[polar girder]

Like half prices

Oh yeah!!!

NO RGB

[kind helm]

60

[polar girder]

GEON = CHAD CONFIRMED

[kind helm]

shipping to us is 33ish

foam + 2 plates + pcb + shipping to us is 130 something i believe

also right now its pre-order, ship out think late jan

[cedar gate]

its cool but i dont think im gonna switch

wooting software is better i think im likin 6.25u better anyway

dont see the point of a daughter board also

[kind helm]

according to mr arcsyko, ui is a bit rough but features are there.

[cedar gate]

plus i do like a little rgb

[silver grove]

what about different mounting styles the pcb has a lot of screw points compared to the wooting pcb so whats up with that will there be gasket mount switch plate options for example or just those benefits?

[cedar gate]

what even are the perks of a daughter board lol

oh and gasket doesnt help me i burger mount

[uneven cradle]

Daughter board gives you more mounting options basically

[cedar gate]

very cool budget option for sure

[uneven cradle]

Can also move the daughter board to have the usb somewhere else

And for boards with more flex it separates it from the pcb/plate

[kind helm]

basically you have more options for the layout you want to use

you can use long shift, long backspace, or change the lay out to something more symmetrical, which is beautiful imo :3

[cedar gate]

Cool ig but basically useless for me other than 8khz which i dont even use

i love that this makes HE accessable to more people tho

[silver grove]

but thats about it? daughterboard is cool i guess but wont really do much if the case itself doesnt allow tray or friction mount am i right?

[cedar gate]

most cases allow for it i think

[kind helm]

wait actually what do you mean

[cedar gate]

also has socd so really cool all in all i would say

[kind helm]

to put it more simply, venom would be much more adaptable to different cases and mount compare to wooting's current 60 pcb

[silver grove]

most high end cases (as far as i have seen) have other mounting styles for the pcb for example gasket mount so the daughterboard wont do much other than change where the usb c port is so thats the only huge benefit since u still can only use gummy o ring or tray mount

probably didnt explain it very well xD

[silver grove]

i am not to much informed in geons stuff is he planning to release more accessoires for the venom?

[kind helm]

daughterboard i think is actually pretty important if you wish to at some point make your board bounce. some port on the case may block the pcb from bouncing evenly if you dont have daughterboard

[kind helm]

hopefully. think the leggera that is coming will work beautifully with venom

[silver grove]

for example would these mounting styles be easier to do with venom or no difference to wooting pcb?

[kind helm]

wooting pcb can't do gummy oring mount, plate mount pcb from stock60 can't do plateless

rest should be the same as long as the plates matches with the lay out on your pcb & have the screw holes to secure the plate and the pcb together

[silver grove]

i am so confused ngl😂

[kind helm]

which part, sry not really focused on answering, watching Forged in Fire

[silver grove]

all good i am just kinda new to this exteme side of custom keebs

i just cant tell if it would be worth it to still get the venom if i have a 60he module already to get more case options in the future since i am tired of the currently available options

[kind helm]

if you have the 60 module probably not

because things will become more accessible as time goes on, when you see a case you like that doesn't work with wooting then you can think about getting it

though i have seen venom being used with tofu 2.0 already, which is i personally think has a much better mounting style than tray mount or janky burger mount or janky friction mount.

[silver grove]

that might be interesting

[stone flax]

Venom so tasty

[forest hare]

anyone knows where to buy good quality cheap caables for my Wooting, I dont want the spirly stuff and shit, just a straight up cable at a custom length ( or good one) at a preferably gray color

[quartz kettle]

anyone that use third party wooting plate, how do you take off the nuts/standoffs from the plate.

on wooting 60he (not wooting 60he+) the first version. oldest one.

I bought a new plate from (https://smkeyboards.com/products/wooting-60he-plate) do I need separate standoffs to install on the plate? or can i install the stock wooting's on this?

the screws that are build on the plate, in order to make the pcb and plate lock together

[devout totem]

You need this
https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-m2-3-countersunk-flat-head-screw-kit

[quartz kettle]

ah ok thank you

[uneven cradle]

Might be difficult to find one that works with Tachyon mode that's longer then 2m if that's what you're looking for

[stone arch]

Good quality but also cheap? lol

[true patrol]

ok, just got geon raw HE in

I'm sorry but these are genuinely the first HE switches I've tried that even sound remotely good

The raptors were tolerable, and all others I've tried so far have just been bad

[fallen echo]

can you give us a quick rundown which switches you have tried?

[true patrol]

lekker 45, gateron ks20, geon raptor HE, those gateron double rail ones

and I tried the jades, though admittedly that was at keycon and it was not quiet enough for me to really say if they were that good or bad

I've been on raptors and 3dprint plate in frog mini for a lil bit now, and it's..."fine", I use this board for comp games so I wasn't too pressed about it
but once I get this PC plate in and put the raws in, I suspect it might actually sound pretty good

[hollow dagger]

If you swapped the spring you, would you think the sound profile would change?

[kind helm]

i think sticky rice spring is fine, longer spring compare to lekkers and no pingy sound

[forest hare]

actually I am not looking at something longer then 2m, the pc sits on the desk and pretty close to keyboard

in relation, I dont expect to pay 10$, but yeah around the under 50 dollars

[kind helm]

any cheap usb cable works

i think

[uneven cradle]

Yeah pretty much if it's short and supports usb 2 and is plugged directly into your PC then theoretically it should work

[true patrol]

for tachyon mode not to work, you generally need a HORRID cable

I use a cheap amazon magnetic USB cable + USBC tip, and then that goes into a USB extension, and I still have never had an issue

[uneven cradle]

Yeah there's also different levels of work some will support full brightness RGB with Tachyon on and others will not that's more challenging

[true patrol]

fair, I don't use RGB since it doesn't show through my plate/switches/caps anyway, but even when I turn it up to it's max (70% I think) it still doesn't disconnect or give me any issues

[uneven cradle]

70% is a soft cap it goes above that if you want it to

[true patrol]

with tachyon on?

[uneven cradle]

Yup

[true patrol]

when did that change? or is it just that you need to do something special to go past it?

Oh, I see, just click the lock

yeah not doing too much testing right now but even at 100 it seems fine

[barren wasp]

do you have a sound test

[wicked geode]

I might be able to get one up but it'd be tomorrow at the earliest as I am on baby duty this evening.

[stone flax]

@woven anchor

[tidal spade]

How do I put foam inside my spacebar?

[devout totem]

Try the nuphy ghost bar. The sound amazing for me

https://www.keytok.com/collections/space-bar

[tidal spade]

That’s a whole spacebar?

Or a mod for spacebar

[crystal pagoda]

whole bar

[devout totem]

The whole space bar

[crystal pagoda]

cut foam to size and just put it in

[vast moth]

Am I able to use friction fit as well as the pc plate mod?

[crystal pagoda]

if you mean use the friction pad with a pc plate yes

[vast moth]

I have the original wooting plate :)

[crystal pagoda]

unless you mean something different by “pc plate mod”

[vast moth]

So I was going to get the PC plate for when my optimum case arrives

[crystal pagoda]

yeah ur good

its just replaces the layer between the plate and pcb

so instead of a silicone sandwich or poron foam

its the friction pad

[vast moth]

Aaaaah I see! Thank you :)

[tawdry tree]

KBD’s 80HE case 😍

https://x.com/kbdfans/status/1859771129675776459?s=46&t=uFrAs-7GGUduYiIB1-Qdbw

KBDfans (@KBDfans) on X

[Coming Soon]
GT80 Raw finished prototype, a case that fits the Wooting 80HE

Pre-orders start in a day from now!

Prices start from $119 to $125

For more info:
https://t.co/Oi5ueii4hw

Accessories Link:
https://t.co/GGj62tthkb

Twitter · Nov 22, 2024, 1:29 AM

Pre orders start tomorrow

[vast moth]

Is there any real issues installing the pc plate on the original iso wooting :)?

[tawdry tree]

No, you just can’t screw in one standoff but it’s no issue.

[vast moth]

Ah okay, thanks so much! <3

[kind helm]

anyone has experience with felt desk mat?

[fluid ravine]

yeah

i have it

[kind helm]

is it soft?

[fluid ravine]

for being a mat no

[kind helm]

like you can actually press it down a tiny bit?

[fluid ravine]

well

think of it as a hard pad id say

its firm

[fluid ravine]

uh yea

depending on the weight of the keyboard

and what feet you use

[kind helm]

nah not getting for keyboard, a issue with my table

[fluid ravine]

wait then what felt desk mat

[kind helm]

is it softer than your deskmat you think

[fluid ravine]

OH

my dumb ass

well yeah it's still firm

[kind helm]

my table has 2 pieces of wood join together, there is a slight difference in height, leather mat i got did make the issue better but didn't solve it

i plan to grab a felt mat on the bottom of my leather mat, me doing 3 layers of mat here

what i had originally that solved the problem completely was with desk mat + artisan zero xsoft, but i dont wanna use the artisan mat no more :V

[quasi hinge]

Turned out quite well, sand blast then cerakote

[dapper sonnet]

How would you guys rate the feel of the jade maxes?

[fluid ravine]

0/10

:D

[devout totem]

Better than geon raw

[sacred elm]

I bet you havent used raws

[devout totem]

Ordering more Jade Max for my Two HE

[devout totem]

Unfortunately they're not for me

[flat cobalt]

Did you try the Pro?

[devout totem]

Tried the regular Jade and Pro, like the feel of the Pro but hated the green tint on the rgb. Pro and Max feel the same but Max is not messing with my rgb

Geon Raw feel the same as Lekkers minus the stem wobble

[flat cobalt]

That’s fair on the rgb

[sacred elm]

I won

[ionic breach]

i cant i agree with that

it is pretty distinct

[sacred elm]

raws are 2x louder in my 60he compared to 80

and I kinda like it being louder

[glacial wind]

I’m really confused by saying raw he feel like lekkers

That’s a wild one lol

[sacred elm]

[lone steppe]

Jade max better than stock wooting keys?

[ionic breach]

preference

for me no

[glacial wind]

I wouldn’t mind them if not for the whole pc sticking thing

[ionic breach]

and that is not including how ex it is

they sound nice and have good rgb tho

[glacial wind]

The real question is what insane switch is gateron announcing at their event tomorrow

The jade max pro gaming for $1.30 per switch might be incoming

[sacred elm]

will they?

[glacial wind]

They teased a silhouette of a switch in their marketing so could be another switch being announced

[sacred elm]

it better not be insane, my wallet is empty

[gilded hinge]

gateron jade max pro plus dual rail closed bottom two staged spring super gaming + - + + - / 5% he gaming switch