#🔧│keyboard_modding
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do 5+ layers, make sure you have some foam at the bottom of your case (if stock 60he then its already there) and perhaps lube your switches and see how you feel about the new sound of your keyboard
i dont wanna step on anyone's toe, after all, preference
before you do more layers of tapemod i'd suggest trying to lube switches first btw ^
5 ! 😱
5+ layers? bro trolling
nah i promise ive seen ppl do it and it dampens sound like crazy
I have lekker v2's switchs, I thought they would be lubed enough
nothing from factory is ever lubed enough
hand lubing will 100% of the time be better than factory lubing
send me link if you still have it, i am curious, i remember 1 to 3 is different but more than that idk. please and thank you
im currently on 3 since i couldnt be asked to do more but ill see if i can find the video again
yes
and id really suggest you watch a video of someone doing it and listen when they say less is more
very important that you do a very very slim layer of lube
Indeed
It did not take much lube to achieve what I wanted from my stabs
i fucked up my old lekker v1's cuz i was being stupid and just went for it with the lube
"surely it cant go that wrong" yeah no it definitely can
interesting, maybe has to do with the thickness of it
why not do all 17 layers for the most thock?
It's like a bandage style medical tape
Really thin so you can have quite a bit of control over how it sounds with how many layers you use
Always wondered how you can lubricate your lekker switches or grease your stabilizer wire. In this video, we will deep dive on different methods of lubing and some general tips and tricks. Using the Wooting 60HE.
Krytox GPL 205G0 and Molykote EM-50L lubricant:
https://region.wooting.store/products/lubrication-set-krytox-205g0-molykote-em-50l
:...
you could use this video guide if you're brand new to it
Thanks !
You still liking your Black Knights? @polar girder
anytime man. if u have any questions just ask in here, these people will help you for sure
Now you have my attention.
Still recommend to keep my lekker v2 and wait for proper silent switchs or is there any actual worth silent HE switch on the market right now ?
Yeah they’re fine
Debating on them just to have some black switches on hand 
i think the lekker v2s are more than good to keep, id say try lubing them and if you personally dont like the sound, then you could look for other switches in the market. personally i dont actually know of any truly silent HE switches. the gateron jade magnetic silent switches arent silent fyi
a “silent” ks-20 he exists but its not a proper implementation
Yeah if anyone wants silent I’d say just hand lube some lekker v2’s and oil the springs and get a plastic plate
Not even close to silent but it’s the best we’ve got. Pretty much
what would be a "proper" implementation in your opinion👀
Silent HE is still a pipe dream
silencing for up and downstroke
not really
gaterons just went lazy
and itll be some time before another manufacturer honestly bothers
liek the gmk thing?
put onto bottom housing
no
Just like in a literal switch
the genty silents are just reusing gat zero degree molds and implementation
and theyre literally not silents
gateron has actual silent switches that aim to make both strokes quieter but just chose to not use their tech for genty’s
but it do be dampening both though no?
Have you tried the Raw yet?
GEON Raw HEs are louder as in the sound is a higher pitch which some people will not like (personally if i had known this i wouldve went with jade pros 110%)
Ah thank you friend 
:)
I have both the jade pro and the geon raws 40g. The jades have a much more profound deeper thock. The raws however, if you really dampen your board, the high pitch clacks are not that noticeable, but it’ll end up being a very silent switch. Also depends on key caps. On stiff and thick pbts the clack is more pronounced
Is it necessary to disassemble entirely the keyboard for lubing switchs like on the video ? I have 6OHE+
i changed the steel plate to pc plate from wooting and i love it. I might try the silicone plate later
yeah this exactly. i really wish someone had told me this before i ordered my 90 raws.
do you know if i can return them? i just got them today
i prefer the sound of geon raws than jades
interesting. what makes you gravitate towards the raws more compared to the jade pros?
I own both and prefer jade pros
No
switch puller
I can remove stabilizers straight from keyboard right ?
are they plate or pcb mount
if plate mount yes
if pcb mount no
Idk 🫣
i like the sound and feel i also never tried jade pros but just watching videos geons sound nicer to me when you mod the kb a certain way
the module has screw-ins, but not the prebuilt 60he+
prebuilt 60he+ supports screw ins but still comes with plate mounts
currenlty on jades (non pro), love it, but if i were to upgrade switches ... raw he offers stiffer springs out of the box. and my jades are definitely too light for me xD
really? i didnt know that. (about the module)
didnt he say pc plate
oh that was a diff guy

Thanks for answer !
screwins
wait since im using the pc plate i cant remove the stock stabs naturally? i gotta take everything apart?
dissasemble
Yeah...
no it has nothing to do with the plate material itself but by whether u got a prebuilt or a module
Pc plate probably means module
which comes with screwins
jade pros are an upgrade in terms of tolerances, but their springs are still 45g
they are longer though so they have a snappier top out compared to normal jades
but if you need it heavier then yeah raws with 60g are good also
So youre the pc plate guy huh
yeah so i bought prebuilt 60he+ and switch the plate from steel to pc
-_-
Im gonna go insane
U have platemounts
hmm, what does snappier top-out mean?
More emphatic top out
faster
louder
since the spring is longer, the switch returns back faster after bottoming out and letting it go
longer springs have a higher preload and stronger return
its all good youre having 3 different convos and confusing me dw about it
ah this makes absolute sense, thanks you two :D
Geon raws with jade pro springs 
I use a frankenswitch made of 3 different switches' components, the spring of which is jade pro lol
are you using those "god" switches? 
no I have a mix of jade pro, raw and black knights
lol
Thoughts on gummy ring mod?
Damn I have the Pros and Knights in my cart might just add some Raws 
Can you send a picture of how the switch looks?
lol I'd recommend only going for jade pros, they are fine on their own imo
I just went for a bit more noticeable top out sound with raw stem + bk top
sec
I want a black top that’s why 
Ohhh that looks nice
the bottom is black jade btw
but it works the same as jade pro bottom for this combination
at least it seems so
so I went for black top and bottom
Neat
looks really cool
what’s the cheapest aluminium case for 60he?
search for gh60 aluminum case on aliexpress, should be a very cheap thin case there
Cheapest around
damn
what’s your build
i got mine today but saving till christmas so want to find some ideas for modding
it sounds nice as it is but maybe a small bit dampening needs to be done
you could start with changing the plate to PC if you like it quieter
and trying different switches
i also have a white setup wich is main reason for case first
so switches next maybe
So this is Black Knights top and bottom housing, Jade Pro spring and the raw stem?
nah its this
black jade bottom
black knight top
raw stem
jade pro spring
4 switches 
jade pro bottom functionally is the same as black jade bottom, but I went for black color scheme
yeah im autistic
but also collected them over the past year lol
That makes it fair 
what case do you have?
depending on the case and whether you have a black plate, you could just go for jade pros and it'll look fine
I ordered the 80HE for the new case they posted in here; I just have a tofu60
I think I might; since I wear headphones all the time anyways
Ok so I need to buy 210 more switches. Understood.
lol just get jade pros, the switch isnt noticeable in the frog mini anyways
well unless it's red like your raptors were xd
80he arrived, gotta get off work to yank everything off the board and swap all my stuff onto it. I will say out of the box it feels soooo much nicer than my TwoHE
Let’s goo
Ended up ordering the pros
geon raws
I have regular jades now
Gotta stick with my gang
cant wait to receive some jade pros to spring swap my raws
really rich man, getting jade pros for the springs, something i can only dream of doing
nonono, i just got 10 jade pros to spring swap my wasd and some other keys, I dont need for full board

What would you guys say are the best long pole stabilizers?
I am trying
I regret buying some many jades lol
i mean its pretty even (227/217), means that something is very sus about that vent and i hope they will change it
Oh wait, this is about the aftermarket case again. Where is the voting/thread
Kdbfans discord in their news channel
Snacks? 
Can you link me the discord?
Can’t link here. Just google search kdbfans discord it’ll be one of first links
Ok, thanks 🙂
lol
I like the unecessary spacebar o rings
I got automatically timed out for 10 minutes

goofy ahh mouse
Lol
anyone know good white cheap keycaps?
Or force kbdfans to ditch their “both works for me” vote so then ppl are forced to pick a side 
No fence sitters allowed /s
yeah but maybe they are now getting 80he cause they've seen that case
there's been examples in this channel
Anyone here got experience with the wuque dash switches?
they are a slight recolor of jades so yeah
They are just regular jades with different spring weight
and purple stem
ye
Yeah the amethyst were meant to be for a board only and the pink were called cu something
for optimal rgb colors and better feel should i get woque dash or jade pros
pros are better sound and feel
regular jades/dashes are better rgb
i will definitely go with pros then
fuck the rgb
everything has o rings
based
:3
awful shape imo im EGG product main
Ah. Yeah I saw a video on them and they sounded very different compared to jades, but I know myself, I have to pace myself a bit before I own I don't know how many sets of switches 🥲 That's why I hoped someone actually had hands on experience with em
have you checked different videos or was it in the same one?
dashes are just custom order normal jades (non-pro) for WS to sell, and it even says gateron on them
maybe different spring weight slightly changes the sound
Was on different video's. But I know that doesn't say everything. Often in those video's the voice-over sounds way to smooth which tells me an eq is used, and I doubt the recording of the sound test is done neutrally so it's already distorted there. I think I'll just keep to these switches and experiment with some foams and other mods to hone in on what I have in mind
I think 40g vs 50g doesn't change much, but jade pro has brighter top out cause it's a bit stronger when returning back
as long as you lube the spring and the switch itself (depending on how well lubed it is from factory) it should be fine
Yeah, I got these because I like a little heavier actuation, so going to the dashes would have been plausible if there was a reasonable difference/improvement.
As soon as my keycaps arrive I'm gonna have a day dedicated to just modding this kb, I'm just gonna wait and see then. Thanks!
@calm pulsar should I be taking off the stab pads that are in the 80he board stock or just leave them on to put after market stabs on?
I don't know what material they are on 80he, but when I tried some soft ones that came with my stabs, I didnt like the bottom out sound
just test one key and see if it's okay for you
you can do it without the plate too
got my new ceramic keycaps! Any recommendations on getting heavier spring switches for the spacebar? it's a bit heavy for the lekker v2 60
Wooting has spring packs on their website
I think 80s should work last time i heard
would u change all the springs or just the spacebar?
If you prefer the normal 60s weight then id probably just change the spacebar as long as the other keys are fine
spacebar, L60 is fine
yeah other keys are fine
on other keys
Then spacebar it is 
why
isn't jade pro supposed to be louder than raw?
jade pros are also loud
no the jade pro are quieter and its sound is way deeper compared to the clacky high pitched sound of the geon raws
its too ear piercing for my liking
i like a quieter, deeper sounding switch
raw's bottom is open though, despite not being open like knight or lekker. jade is closed bottom
^
thats why the sound is so different
one of the reasons atleast
geon raws are definitely not a bad switch overall but id rather have jade pros if i knew how the raws actually sound irl

Type A gang rise up
👀 while i agree that switch itself does contribute to the sound of the board, you can still achieve deeper sound through mods like poro foam or pc plate
did you buy pros as well?
if you're just comparing sound tests online between different creators then it may be giving you the wrong impression
👀 do you own both?
yeah
although only a few pros just to test out
i didn't buy 90
they're both loud lol
do you think jade is more quiet? (not to argue a point, more just curious)
not at all
the pitch is a tad different but without recording and boosting it myself they're both that standard jade clacky loudness
i got a few neo which is closed bottom, and compare to raw neo is much louder (of course it is not really a "fair" comparison since the material used are different, but i thought a lot of that loudness comes from the fact that one is closed bottom and the other is not)
but they don't have that crazy high pitch
from the OG jade
i get a feeling mr menstruate is comparing different sound tests and forgetting that they're different setups so loudness and 'thock' will be totally different just from the mics
THOCK
mr menstruate is crazy nickname
he chose his name, now he's chosen his fate
yeee, it is hard to compare especially the fact that people be tweaking sound for views
mr menstruate shall forever be his name

Would the Owlab 60HE case be available for purchase on the Wooting store? Buying from Owlab requires VIP
.
they said they'd stock it too
🤡 i just realize owlab is the jelly epoch and mr. suit line
500+ boards
yeah that's why we told you it'll be expensive lol
way out of my league
it's the same line as jelly epoch and vento, even sharing same design style
i hate that case
jelly epoch reminds me of pe foam
have anyone used pe foam for he board?
probably fcks with the actuation
the way it sits on the pcb
someone did post about trying it and how it ruined all their actuation lol
pe foam makes gk61 sounds like top end THOCK machine - glarses
Wow
Can buy it separately or needs to buy with the 60he board ?
we don't know any details beyond just wooting saying they'd stock it
are those black and raw switches
black knight stem and bottom with raw top housing?
Dose anyone here have any tips they could share for a beginner
Im doing my first build soon
Well when ever the kit gets here which might be a little who knows
Depends on what your striding for, sound, performance, or just a fun build
Sound mainly
And also to have fun
It is my first custom build
Already ordered and received everything besides the kit
Yes
using raw stem in here would create some issues with actuation iirc
it's recommended to use open bottom stems with open bottom lower housings if possible
and vice versa for closed bottom
This
I need the full 4.0mm because I use them in analog ( as a joystick) quite often
yeah basically you have the best open bottom switch out there
Dose anyone know a build guide vid for the neo65 that’s easy to follow along for a dumb individual (myself)
ask in qk discord probably better
sound test of 80he, Black knight + raw switches ( 80 g springs )
tape modded 3 layers,
sounds nice
not tape mod and 80he
Recording really doesnt do it justice
I think recording highlights that plasticky sound coming from tape mod
Does anyone know what would be the height of the 80he with DSA keycaps on, in mm?
You should go with gaterons jade in that case, raw he are also a gem if you know how to mod them well, if you only care about sound and fun, go ahead and pe foam mod, and tape mod all you want, if you got the time, re lube or lube your own switches completely, it’s worth it
didnt know raw he needed modding to sound good :)
Not needed, the 50s sound perfect out of stock, just an optional and good touch
Jades? Its not going to be a he keyboard
I know, there is no reason to recommend jades over them
So js go with gateron normal stuff, they are still amazing switches
What if I already ordered the switches lol. The keycaps and switches are already delivered. I just wanted to know if there are any tips you could recommend for someone building there first keyboard
Like while building it if anything recommend to do
Jades are a common choice, the max have some problems, the normal ones are fine, and the pros are a go to, raw he Definetly a better option though, when they are in stock that is
I find the 50 pressure force a perfect sweet spot
PE foam is a very good mod, i would prefer it over tape mod tbh
Oh alr thanks
I think ima also try lubing my stabs which I have never done that before
Seems pretty simple
60 is also very good
Yea, really good choice
I need to get some of this not sure where?
Yea just a bit of a heavier force
Only things I have ever done was swap the switches, keycaps, and case on my 60he thats all
So idk anything
I like it better because it’s just a little heavier then the jades
Personally I would go with the 60 over the 40 if the 50 isn’t in stock
The 40 is really really light
Honkid on amazon has always been quite a good choice, local stores of ironmongery should work with them also, just thicker and quite diff to work with, modules from pompokey are good also https://pompokey.com/products/keyboard-pe-foam-mod
Size:68 keys (65%)75%87 keys (TKL) Thickness: 3.5-6mm Material: Poron LE20 Foam that goes between your keyboard plate and PCB. If you use pcb plate foam as well, this will go right under the pcb plate foam. For 75%, You can easily cut along the dotted line to suit the keyboard you are using.
You Can select thickness n stuff
Yea the 40s really mess up sometimes
What size would I get for 80?
the geon raws need a slight touch up for the lube
its pretty minor tho majority of the people dont need it
Yeah I could see the switches actuating from the weight alone
On heavier caps
Im planning on using geonworks venom for my next build
Will also use 50 pressure force
its at the top of the stem, i dont actually recall why, but it causes the slight iffy sensation when u very lightly rest ur fingers on the keycap
Perfect spot
there was a conversation abt it a few weeks ago where some started testing on why it happens
I had that and it went away
Theres an option of 87% pretty rare though
And a bit strange to work with in most cases but there are work arounds for that
Anyone have an answer to this
i use to have it in my board before
seems fine for me
but i rather not risk doing it anyways
so im good
not a big fan of sound modifiers in my board
horse brush spotted
Yee
shift over
now I have days off for staker 2 and wow classic fresh servers
noice
geon got me again with the thocctober deals
uh oh
he can't keep getting away with this

say my name
you're geon...
you're god damn right
it's really nice, i like it
Ty
The venom60he is coming out soon at the geon global store
i can ask him for you
oof
😮 😮 😮 😮
when?
No idea, but the store added a group buy tag for Venom60he😏
I wanna get a case and keycaps for my 60HE, what do you guys recommend?
Tofu is a popular choice
It’s affordable and nice
I'm going to order geon raws for my 80he and want to switch the stabilizers at the same time just for fun. Is this the right one to pick for the board?
https://geon.works/products/tx-ap-stabilizer-screw-in-long-pole?variant=44299327078563
TX AP Stabilizer (Screw-In) Long Pole Choose according to the thickness of the PCB that will be used - TKL - Housing (1.2mm or 1.6mm) x10/ Long Pole Stem x10/ 2U Wire x4/ 6.25U & 7U Wire x1/ Screw+Washer x10 Spare x2 - 2U Kit - Housing (1.2mm or 1.6mm) x6/ Long Pole Stem x6/ 2U Wire x3/ Screw+Washer x6 Spare x2 Ch
Ooo
Unfortunately no budget
1.6 screw-in is right
Don’t buy 1.2 or clip-in
Cool. Thanks
They official announced
Pre-order start at 21
fak, def no money
can I just buy the pcb and get the rest later?
pcb, and plate
No idea
If I can squeeze $100, I can def just get almost everything except case and switch
Around $80 for pcb+plate+foam
How many standoff screws does the tofu come with? I dropped the bag and wondering if i found all
Oh yeah forgot about it
We're gaming
$4/6 is not much of a save
yea but then you also get your board to not sound like foam
so you save money + get a board that sounds like itself
Oh yeah, getting this board could be a nice chance to get 7U board
When the tariffs hit you’ll regret not having those 4/6$

tariff is fine
also supports DBs
what's DB?
daughterboards
so you don't need a gh60 compatible case
tho tbf of the 60% boards I have it still only fits 2/4
oooo
I'm just gonna what's the cheapest compatible
I already have the 80he
Maybe build this for my sister
make her get used to 60% early hehe

I wonder why there is note about tx ap stabs not working properly on modding faq
because tx ap stabs sometimes don't fit on 60he+
huh, still the same style as air60
nuphy be pumping out HE board
I almost bought their field75
I loved how crazy it looked
they literally said 2 times the same thing
1/8000hz = 0,000125s = 0,125ms
latency is not scan or polling interval
they just use bad lingo for the second point
considering the keyboard pcb as 0 latency itself, which is impossible
yep
they forgot about the latency of the microprocessor in the keyboard processing informations from the switches
python can be fast
python can be fast and its when its calling c functions
Do u guys recommend me buying lube for my keyboard or should I wait a while then do it
Also what the best keycaps I can buy for 60he+ im looking for good looking ones
GMK keycaps are high quality as far as I’m aware
just to check, is it possible to buy a full metal case after i have bought the plastic version?
Yes you can buy zinc case separately
Thank you for that I’ll check them out
they will shine pretty fast compared to pbt keycaps at the same pricepoint
maybe try ePBT
Ohhhhh okay didn’t know that
they have abs keycaps so better avoid that
they're still good quality though, its just a downside of ABS plastic
i would recommend GMK keycaps but not for gaming
pbtfans too
what are the best stabilizers to swap into to my 60he
60he+ or 60he old one (before the plus)
the normal 60he
if not the plus version, then you're limited to plate mount stabs. Most people did something like the designer studio plate mount stabs or one of the copycats of it
@glacial wind thanks
yeah those, although you can definitely find that even cheaper in other stores depending where you're from
ok thanks for the help
is there any easy mods that i can do beacuse i have never done any
dang the pre-order price is also 125 buck
some serious competition is coming out too

How many mm clearance is there inside the 80he between the pcb and the case bottom?

if you think about it, the switch travel is 3.3mm, so only 0.1mm shorter than geon raws, kinda weird
I would think you'd have a shorter travel low pro HE keyboard
🤷♂️
I’ll check that too
Is lube necessary or should apply it later down the line
if you remove the left usb port on venom can you put it back on?
i am thinking about getting a second pcb from them, one for left port one for center port later on :3
no
point of no return
at first i was just thinking about getting the plates, then the shipping cost made me want to get more things 
the two plates i got from hyperboring only cost 20 dollars total, one fr4 one alu
think i shouldve brought cf plate from hyperboring instead, since that is the type that geon doesn't sell
yeah probably would've been a bit better
@flat cobalt @tulip rapids 
does anyone have some good keycaps for wooting 60HE? they dont have to be from wooting directly i just wanna know cuz im trynna mod it (white best if possible)
https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/ I’d start here and see if any particular designs/colors catches your attention. Might take some time to fully explore since the keycap rabbit hole is pretty wide
Is there any more info on this? Just now seeing it.
using the geon raws, about to order the ap stabs is long pole recommended because the travel time is 3.4mm?
stock stabs are fine
Does anyone have the link for custom wooting straps?
I saw it on AliExpress a longgg time ago but can’t find it anymore
from me, nope
lol i bought one because of the looks ... and while i was waiting for the 80HE ... the issue is that it's been 1 month and i don't have yet ... still rolling out of customs 😄
For my 80he I got some raws and the TX AP Long Pole Screw-in, did I get the right stabs?
Oh, just realised it ships on January. Hmm
2 months wait not too bad, can prepare for building it.
1.6mm tkl?
not gonna grab the raws, i am hoping that by the time i got the stuff from them there will be "better" switches
plus i don't want two boards to with the same switches.
raw sounds nice tho
raws are endgame 
this part of mobo confuses me a second until I realized you can either do backspace with stab or the 2 other keys
also, a nice little fn key.
personal opinion :3 jade knight is the end game right now. raw needs some love lube on the spring.
yeah
does any1 know a european side that offers geon raw hes?
ur good then
Who here is the best keyboard modder and can coach me?
there is noone with such a title
YouTube has more than enough guides

Sure if you want to end up with half a keyboard
Check dm
Sadly not good enough at modding so I guess whover plays valorant and mods has their chance 
Is holee mod good on the wooting 60 module STABS or should I just buy different STABS?
Also do I LUBE or holee mod the stabs?
57 seconds · Clipped by Josh · Original video "Keyboard Thock Mod Tier List ft. Glarses" by Shoobs
Lube or holee mod the stabs?
What’s better
Or am I supposed to do both
Here is how I mod my stabilizers. I get asked this a lot of my streams and honestly, I figured why not just record this so I can link this video instead of having to re-explain it every time. I hope you enjoy it. Please remember this video is only covering lubing and installing, some stabs like cherry clip-ins, you'll need to clip the bottom leg...
just buying new ones and/or lubing them?
Bro why the fk do I have to lube everything
because mechanical parts require lube
Do I have to lube for wooting
Can I go lubeless mods
Or is it that worth it
you don’t have to
if you want to lube your switches and stabs you can
what switches are you using?
for everyone that i know of, lubingtuning the stabilizers is worth
What’s EVERYTHING I should lube on the wooting other than switches cuz I have raw HE pre lubed
RAW
Stock stabs?
raw hes probably don’t really need lube. I mean you can if you want but personally I don’t think it’s worth the time.
watch that video i sent
What should take lube
and have some patience
Just say yes or no I’m watching it rn bros just lubing shit
Should I swap wooting module stabs or no
great way to ask for help
raw hes stock are probably fine. just tune your stabs and you’re set.
no
keyboard is functional stock, modding just makes the board sound "better". tuning the stab removes the rattle noise from press them
you decide if it is worth or not
Tuning is just other word for lube?
just watch the video bro
Fine
i try to be a bit more precise, tuning includes lubing and wire balancing, which essentially just means bending the wire slightly to ensure both ends of the wire can be pressed down evenly
video is much easier than explaining it with words because i cant tell you if something sounds good without you hearing it yourself and deciding if it is worth your time bb
ok
Should I just do all the top mods of this video
probably not, that video is more of a meme than anything, but the insights are gud if you want to dive into the rabbit hole

@midnight rock
different mods has different purpose, so some modification that one enjoys maybe dislike by another. if you have enough patience, you can read through the modding_faq which has a lot more details.
in terms of what i personally considered essential, is having decent switches(which you already do i think, raws right?) and tuned stabilizers.
Yes raws
There’s so much mods idk where to start
All I know is tape mod is in like every build
well some people in this channel actually dislike tape mod. if you are interested you can do it, you can just remove it later if you dislike it or get bored of it.
What’s the pros and cons
there isn’t really pros or cons with tapemod
it just sounds different
it’s more like whether you like it or not
and that is preference
Pros: sound changes Cons: sound changes
anyone know any budget options for the coiled cable that can still run 8k polling?
i would actually go with wooting's own. guarantee to work + not crazy expensive with nice connectors
Anything usb 3 should work
Actually usb3 isnt needed but thats atleast a save bet
high quality high gauge wires should do the trick
however personally I would stick with wooting's cables
just for the best compatibility
Rip MJ
Anyone knows a way or a site to custom print an image onto a strap? I had a seller on aliexpress that did custom prints but the listing is down and I can’t find anything anymore
im good friends with him
we talk often in dms
he just aint responded in 48 hours
which has not happened in a month
he is dead
hopefully
he’ll be back soon enough surely
that’s crazy
anyone know any low profile wooting 60he cases
caseless. 🗿
:c
there’s a cheap metal case on aliexpress
that’s pretty “low profile”
not that cheap actually
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EGGwBJf
looks pretty good
i accidentally bought the module + along side the optimum bundle... don't ask how i got there
so now i have two 60he so i am planning to try a low profile case
you can cancel it still probably
boys what type of foam do I get for the spacebar for the 80he? https://kbdfans.com/products/spacebar-foam?
This product is only supported in the products of PCB Mount Stabilizers; if you are plate Mount stabilizers, You need to use the scissors part to make it fit Cherry, OEM. DSA and below 3.5mm, please select 3.5mm NP,MT3 profile ,select 6mm SA,Hipro,profile,select 9.5mm You can measure the height of your spacebar to ch
cut some foam yourself and see if you like it. Or if shipping isn’t that much get the ones you linked.
just curious what thickness to get
3.5, 6, or 9
just wondering what other people use
what switches do u use?
are there any cases releasing for the 60he that are worth looking out for that are in the class of salvation or frog mini?
just using stock lekk 60s but was considering getting the geon raws or the jade pros
I don’t know exactly how much space there is between the switch and keycap but with switches like the Raw HEs and Jades, you can use thicker foam.
If it’s split foam like KBD’s you can use any
Thanks, I'll just get the 6 I suppose
shit that's true
then I could glue em together if I end up liking it thicker like that
Keyboard modding newbies when they learn everything is just preference:
Real
prototypist and deltakey
jae is awesome
wire balance, lube on plastic contact, grease on wires
holee, bandaid, foam mod on stabs is just ways to go around the issue of having an improperly tuned stabilizer without actually addressing points of issue
stock stabs are pre-lubed
and frankly gateron stabs arent even bad
dont buy parts to replace just to replace em
i love the shimmer of the black zinc
im buying long pole screw in stabs for my geon raw he (im using pc plate) but does it matter which ones?
https://divinikey.com/collections/keyboard-stabilizers/products/tx-ap-long-pole-screw-in-stabilizers
TX AP Long Pole Screw-in Stabilizers are now here after popular request. Having all the features we love with the AP Stabilizers such as the doubleshot stem and wire consistency while allowing for PCB screw-in for a more secure mount. TX AP Long Pole Screw-in Stabilizers Feature: Designed by kin25 Version: Rev 4 Screw-
Owlstab V2 is brought to you by Owlab and includes wires by Liquidmetal. These wires are made of shape-memory alloy which allow slight bending of the wire to return to its original, straight shape. Owlab Owl Stab V2 Features: Made by Owlab Screw-In, PCB Mount V2 Housing Reduced size of wire entry hole in order to decre
Designer Studio Adaptive Stabilizers V2 are PCB mounted stabilizers with an elastic, high polymer material inside the stem. This allows for the mechanism to apply a constant force against the wire during usage as to reduce the amount of free movement inside the stabilizers. Also included are teflon pads to help the bot
or should i get a certain brand( sorry for the spam) and the swagkeys knight v2 are sold out
according to mr mj designer studio is pretty good
but with raw you should probably also grab geon stem spacer
i have the stem spacers but they suck
i cant get long stab poles for the geon raw that would do a better job?
Started a new job today, it’s for a plastic manufacturing company. I was talking to one of the guys and he said we can even talk to the CAD people and design our own stuff. I was thinking about doing an acrylic case.
I was also thinking of having an clear acrylic plate made
GMK boneyard is back. One of my fav sets https://novelkeys.com/collections/top-dogs/products/gmk-cyl-boneyard-keycaps
interesting, idk, that is the first time i heard issue with that. i have a set of tx ap long pole plate mount and it works pretty well
damn looks perfect for optimum case gamers
Where did you get gmk colour samples?
Color checking if you're trying to see what might match a specific build best
When you make gmk keycap set ?
for example, matching yellow can be tough so it helps
You can look for GMK sets that use those colors
Never but a few guys in my local keeb group have made quite a few gmk sets
Turkeyfather? 
The powers that be havent changed theirs yet so Im waiting lol
So you are outlalier
Step up or custom keyboard game
Nice pick! One of mine too, pre-ordered at DeskHero already.
This is really cool
Damn that’s nice
Hoping the Canada post strike isn't gonna screw my deskhero order
Canada post goes on strike last month before my x-ray set ships 😭😭
My spacebar sounds soo thocky after this budget tape mod 😆
Sorry to hear bro, hope you get your Xrays soon, you certainly waited long enough.
Beginning of August 😭
What's underneath the tape mod?
nothing, just the keycap
was considering putting foam there, but i dont have foam until i get a new package delivered
So it's tape mod altogether?
yeah i just rolled the masking tape so it acts as a double sided tape and then put a regular strip above so the sticky side doesnt face the bottom
AS long as it did the job I guess it's ok
it adds a tiny bit of weight however though but it's miles better sound wise
I have mine with dense foam right now but I ordered a few days ago spacebar foam from ali
yeah was considering that as well, but saw some youtube videoes of people doing foam and imo it didnt really change the sound at all
you got a link?
you bought 7u or 6.25u?
6.25u
honestly im just going to buy it as well, it's 1$ free shipping to norway lol so doesnt hurt to try
It's cheap, yes
whats your current build?
you recommend the geon raw he? been looking at them myself
Without a hesitation
oh nice case, custom painted?
Kitteh
No, it's raw zinc
ohhh right.. that shits like chrome
I like it a lot
you hand lubed your geons?
No, I let them as they came. Sound is so nice stock
I tried both the lekkers and geon
And inmediately installed the raws
damn gotta try then, i just spent the afternoon today hand lubing 90 lekker 45s
I would give it a try if I was you
Having said that, the only key I have lekker l60 installed is the spacebar
Where did you buy them from? Can't find any stores local in scandinavia, so was considering buying directly from https://geon.works/, but shipping is like almost 1:1 from the price of a 90 pack
All the rest of the keyboard I have the raws
I bought it on the official site
But have to say customs and shipping were so expensive
yeah so geon.works?
I've yet to pay customs for my wooting 80he, lol, i just hope I never receive a claim in the mail
There was an EU site that resulted cheaper I think, let me find it
Geon Raw HE Switches specifications: Each pack contains 10 switches Linear Hall-Effect Switch Top Housing: PC Bottom Housing: Nylon Stem: POM Spring: 15.0mm, Single Pre-travel: 0.1 ~ 3.3mm (Analog) Total Travel: 3.4mm Initial Force: 36.0g Bottom-out: 50.0g Magnetic Flux: Initial: 160Gs Bottom-out: 720Gs 2-Pin Lubed
That one
Shipping is way cheaper from that
That's 58.43€ w/o customs tax I guess
Directly from geon would be 53.34$ w/o customs?
Although shipping from geon is nearly 1:1, it's still cheaper for me
as the switches are -30% right now
Might just jump the gun tbf
WTF
I had to pay like 30 euros
i'm so sad... i just bought ws dash last week 🥲
Yeah I will probably end up paying customs for either one
Bad timing then lol
Live in norway, we're a part of the european trade union, but not EU directly
So I'll end up paying customs if the store doesn't partake in some agreement with our customs
or whatever
Oh ok, true
It gets automatically applied
lets go
i'm glad/sad I checked here when i did
it'll make a good xmas gift for the keeb homies
at least
Hahah for sure unless you're able to return them
If you just want the geon raw he's instead
Eh, why not both lol
wait so i'm confused and kinda new...
HE switches don't usually have pins right?
metal ones at that
Only 2 plastic pins
ok thats what i was thinking
tyty
what's the diff in sound profiles for the raptor he
compared to geon raw
I can't tell about raptor hes but this is how mine sounds with geons
spacebar is with lekker l60 v2
50g
and ty for the sound byte btw i appreciate it
Np
so for springs, higher number = more resistance correct?
Correct
okay cool cool
i got the tofu acryllic and i'm hoping i don't regret it cause i'm just now thinking of how sound dampening mods might make it look shitty, at least from the underside
@rapid aurora it doesn't apply the code even if i manually do it, am i doing something wrong?
I just tried and it automatically applies to me as well
applies at checkout
my guy
lol sry if i'm missing somethin
lol true
i clicked this one on god
The discount is on the official site
thocctober is geon
GEON RAW HE Linear Switch 2pins Switch Type – Linear, LubedInitial Force – 27.0g / 36.0g / 45.0gBottom-out Force – 40.0g / 50.0g / 60.0gSpring Length - 15.0mmSpring Type - Single-stagePre Travel - 0.1 ~ 3.3mm (Analog)Full Travel - 3.4mmTop Housing Material - PCBottom Housing Material - NYLONStem Material - POMMounting
But watch out for customs and all that, it was really expensive for me
That's why I also put deltakey link just in case it was cheaper for him
South Korea
ooo ok
maybe i'll have my cousins in korea bring me some switches when they pull up for the holidays 😂
Sounds good lol
did you buy the 40g, 50g or the 60g variant
50g
okay nice was thinking about buying the 50g as well
@sacred elm just change your vote to Type A 
B is making a comeback

We are close 😛
I really want A to win that little vent thing looks so cool
I just hate that thing lol
As I said yesterday, I would have preferred like a flat accent piece in there
So in reality I would like a mix between A and B
The Either Or option should not have been a thing
lubed l45s vs stock jade maxs, only thing that sucks about the max's is the friction, heaviness. and how they get stuck on to keycaps
@exotic inlet Oops I just did a thing
You are not going to regret it
Although my lekker 45s sound insaaanely thocky already
Not bad, what case are you using
black zinc alloy
Shipping for me is like 50$
holy thats so much, where do you live?
those the v2s or the first ones?
v2s hand lubed, zinc alloy, tape mod
ohhh no wonder
also stabilizers are grossly lubed as well
same but ive never been able to get rid of ticking
no amount of grease or lube can remove the ticking
Texas 
this removed all my space bar ticking
made it super thocky
no rattling from stabilizers at all as well after hand lubing them twice
oh shit nice
ill try it
but its happened on all the space bars
its the stabilizer itself
ohh right, do you lube them yourself or do you just leave as is?
my stabilizers arrived pretty rattly, and i sort of messed up the lube job the first time
ive lubed them around 3 times now to try and get them to stop ticking but it never worked
and then i removed all keycaps, switches and the gasket mount
and then relubed them once more with a fuck ton of lube around the corner and where you insert the wire in to the stabilizer
worked like a charm, sounds fantastic now
i wishh
im gonna try again someday
im too lazy atm
once i return the jade maxs for the jade pros ill do it
i wish you the best of luck and hope you get them sorted
No man, I think group B folks achieved what they wanted, kbdfans might make both versions
No I only want A so the other half can suffer
Ordered some Staebies 
thanks man 🙏
maybe in the future if they fix em ill get them again
but for now
it feels like im using a tactile keyboard
@calm pulsar what stabs do you use?
Can anyone confirm or deny if the new friction fit pad has a effect on the sound profile
knight v2s
also used stock ones and tx ap
all were good tbh
@harsh dove
It’s official, I’ve found the most insane person on eBay.
Complete set of the original GMK alter key caps. Original box is included, promotional holographic Saber Alter sticker is not included. This does not include any novelty keys.
Price is negotiable, please feel free to message me with any offers.
THIS IS NOT A KEYBOARD, THIS LISTING IS JUST FOR THE KEYS.
I was legit looking at these yesterday lol
I ordered the Aeboards Staebies since they had good reviews 
yeah i will def buy keycaps that are sorted like this
anyone going to try burger mounting the 60he to the optimum?
or if it is even possiblel
same

asked deskhero staff if they would ever stock raw he's
hopefully they end up stocking some soonish
Nice
Comes with a sort of burger mount in the box
I know AliExpress had some on sale
im scared about import fees
so id prefer deskhero
hopefully them or mech.land end up stocking raw he soon
Ah that’s fair
both of them have like 0 options for HE so far
Both those stores don't stock any geon items so probably unlikely for both
heres hoping deskhero comes in clutch
otherwise ill be waiting until wooting stocks them
The jade pros are what force? 50?
holy
random question
im using the switch lube from wooting and there a rubber insert that came from the bottle. Do i put that rubber insert back into the bottle to perserve the lube
because it dont wanna go back in lmfao
I’d keep it in a ziplock bag or something sealed then just in case
ty good sir
i google it and some say use some of the lube on the rubber part
but i said fuck that
and put some heavy as items on top of it and it end up sealing it up
then i put it back into the wooting back
lol
thoughts on the optimum board?
i really like it 
Cute pfp 
IT'S TIMEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I better be seeing keyboard parts in front of my door when the day comes >:)
Almost chrisma indeed
and my borthday
yippay
If you see teeth marks it means i held back
LMAO
NGANHGHANNAHHGFHGH
chew chew
Speaking of christmas getting some art in December. Will see how that turns out 
I am expecting amazon gift cards appearing out of nowhere
only because i never know what i want when someone asks me what i want for chrimah
For actual Christmas I’m getting airpod pros
o noice
I tried their hearing aid feature and it wasnt half bad
Since this fall
i dont follow up with apple products but that's new, good for apple
👏
what else they do
Just some gesture stuff for the airpods really
The hearing aid stuff was their big thing for that refresh
how much are the pros
I be wearing Sony Linkbuds S and Aftershokz Bone Conduction headphones as my daily
that's not bad
The hearing aid sound for my right ear is very airy (in a good way!) i can hear far more minor details id miss compared to my normal hearing aids with their meh autofocus feature

The Christmasson aka Jesus
Frostson, Snowson, Chillson
, Driftson
, Aurorson, Wintrson, Icerson
lol all i could think of
Candycaneson
lmao
has anybody here used typeplus x yikb stabs
Winterson sounds kinda badass almost
Freezeson
Glowson
I tested them for a bit, they are fine
ended up not using them cause had some other stabs prepared, but they are considered good
Geon uses them a lot for instance
thoughts on the sound 👀
its sooo nice its stock too


how efficient their firmware is is the bigger issue


