🔧│keyboard_modding

[jaunty ruin]

u guys might call me stupid asf rn

but does that mean

its like

not a wooting

whatsoever

[calm pulsar]

yes lol

[jaunty ruin]

ah ok

just making sure

[calm pulsar]

I got 2 wootings and now venom

[jaunty ruin]

is th venom good?

[calm pulsar]

its has cool "enthusiast features" like option for spacebar, cutouts for gummy oring mount and ability to mount in cases that use daughterboards

8khz polling too, but no rgb

venom is from geon btw, the creator of raw he switches

[kind helm]

enthusiast feature for keyboard nerds*

[calm pulsar]

yeah that's why it was in quotes hehe

[jaunty ruin]

but the actual he tho

does that perform on par with wooting or is there a clear difference

[calm pulsar]

it has the same software features, but it doesnt look as nice as wootility
in terms of performance it is a bit faster due to 8khz, but I didnt get it for that reason

wanted to try out a little different layout

[jaunty ruin]

nono not "faster" as in 8k polling, im talking abt the HE glitching, not working like it should and so on, yk like every other HE keyboard besides wooting

[kind helm]

it is also cheaper than wooting. my package, if it arrives, has fr4 and alu plate, the pcb itself, and foams, for around ~120 usd after shipping cost

[calm pulsar]

I just set up all of the same functions as I had on wooting and it works the same
I guess potentially the firmware isn't as nicely developed, cause wooting has a bigger dev team and stuff
but I didnt run into issues

0.1mm with 8khz was acting up though, but I had similar behavior on some wooting versions

[kind helm]

does it have a big dev team? i thought wooting still pretty small team

[calm pulsar]

well probably bigger than geon's 😄

[inner owl]

I dont think anything actually matches the same level of key detection and HE implementation as wooting right now but the reality is its probably so small you couldnt tell

[kind helm]

thats kinda copium in my perspective, wooting is the OG yes, probably has the most experience with the tech, but at the same time, at this point the tech is not that new anymore

[inner owl]

yeah thats my point though, its been out so long the competition is probably so close, if any gap at all

[short swallow]

hello everyone, im doing some small mods on my wooting 60he+ and wanna do cerakeys + the wooting jade switches. Will there be any problems with cerakeys?

[kind helm]

true, the settings wooting has is pretty safe compare to the chinese brands, where you can set your actuation point and stuff to 0.0 something. But at that point, is there any meaningful advantage? I am not sure to say the least.

[vague stag]

@kind helm so, since I tried the tempes mod with the lekker v1, and without the brass weight, I thought I give it a go again - here is the result

[calm pulsar]

I agree
but I still think some chinese brands might still have worse firmware that is less stable
so I trust wooting, geon and probably rakka as well more than all these random plastic 75%s that are being offered in huge quantities lol

[vague stag]

imo, it sounds a bit better

[calm pulsar]

I feel like this difference between 0.1 and 0.01 is bs, cause the switch tolerances are even higher than that sometimes

so it makes no sense to make it that unstable

[calm pulsar]

*not bs, just bad and not useful

[kind helm]

yeee, and i say that disregarding the hardware side of things. even sander mentioned how he misclicks when simply resting his fingers on the key at 0.1 (L finger control but the logic is there)

[inner owl]

yeah stick to the bigger brands if you wanna get an alternative in general, support in the long run is arguably as important as the product at release

[jaunty ruin]

i dont even use 0.1, i never have. i use 0.7 or 0.8 on WASD and 1.3 on every other normal key and then a few select keys have like 2.5, 3.0, 4.0 such as windows key, escape key, and my space bar is like 2.0 i think

[inner owl]

im not sure on the venom's updates though I frequently look at the geon discord I dont usually see many updates

[jaunty ruin]

only reason im sticking to wooting is because i know its always gonna be reliable, no matter what

[calm pulsar]

there's been a couple of beta updates in the last month, but im waiting for stable version

they are finally adding capslock led control lol

[inner owl]

I love geon designs, I think i have 2 grand worth of their non HE boards

[jaunty ruin]

like when its on its white like on wooting?

[jaunty ruin]

i could never

[calm pulsar]

more like on/off xd
not sure if it has rgb colors

[jaunty ruin]

2k on shit u know u wont use would tear me apart

[kind helm]

i personally don't trust any "brand", i trust users' word more. maybe a hot take here but i think at this point, i do not recommend any of wooting's item to my friends other than maybe the 60module

[inner owl]

Its a fraction of what ive spent on boards but i've sold like 75% of them so far

consumed by consumerism

[jaunty ruin]

nah personally the only wooting stuff i can really really recommend is the 60he (module ofc) and 80he. ive never been fond of any osu stuff nor do i really think the old wooting two is worth it (way too big and way too old)

[jaunty ruin]

ah okay atleast u made some of ur money back

im not a poor guy, i just really dislike spending money on stuff i wont use

[inner owl]

Ive actually made more! I make and sell custom keebs on the side

[jaunty ruin]

its a waste of space, money and time and effort to mod in the first place

[jaunty ruin]

ooo thats nicee

[inner owl]

some of these custom keyboard brands are coveted and sell for much more if you do manage to raffle them

[jaunty ruin]

i really wish everyone would switch to HE keyboards, cuz i honestly believe thats the future of keyboards

[inner owl]

stuff like singakbd kohakus etc

[jaunty ruin]

to me it just sucks that only a fraction of the market is doing HE keyboards

[crimson sky]

ironic for someone that has "be the better person" in their bio

[inner owl]

only issue for me was that i was a solely tactile user

[inner owl]

i use them though

[jaunty ruin]

i was a mecha-membrane user for like 6-7 years (razers weird way of selling membrane keyboards to people who didnt know anything abt keyboards)

[safe fern]

does anyone know how wobbly the GEON Raw switches are compared to the v1 /v2 lekker?

[jaunty ruin]

GEON Raw HEs are wayy better than the v1, i dont know abt the v2 tho to be completely honest, but i think they also beat the v2

[inner owl]

never got into membranes or topres but i have friends that swear by them

[kind helm]

compare to lekker v1 geon raw dunks on it, point and laugh at it, and step on it.

[safe fern]

I just got the 80HE with v2 and they are so much better than the v1. interested in modding my 60 with the geon raw

[kind helm]

lekker v2 less of a difference in that way

[jaunty ruin]

membrane is ass

[inner owl]

I like the lekker v2s so far

[calm pulsar]

raw he are too diff from lekkers to really compare
open vs closed bottom are very different feelings imo

but raws are probably better in terms of wobble

[inner owl]

the raws in my 60he feel more stable though

[crimson sky]

can you really claim to "be the better person" if you buy with the intention of flipping it in the future

[safe fern]

as long as they have less wobble than v1

[vague stag]

btw, tried to frankenswitch lekker with G Raws

was not a great idea 😄

[inner owl]

except that I don't? I buy what I like

[calm pulsar]

yeah they are probably too diff in their structure

[kind helm]

i think mr fisk is just leaning toward that "investment" side of the keyboard community, not just intentionally flipping them

[jaunty ruin]

im getting my raws in 5 days i actually cant wait

[vague stag]

yeah, thought the open bottom would sound great with the raw

[jaunty ruin]

now all im missing is a better (metal) case

and some keycaps

[vague stag]

but they just got so sluggish

didnt work

[inner owl]

i build, mod and cut custom plates or custom accessories, when they dont get much use time anymore I sell them, people can pay what they like i dont scalp

I give them an up front cost of what i spent and they decide what they pay

[jaunty ruin]

any keycap suggestions btw? i want something with a nice, clean aesthetic, maybe a little bit monotone or like tan ish would be nice

[inner owl]

this for the 60he?

[jaunty ruin]

yes

[calm pulsar]

tofu redux, freebird60, new geon frogs that are coming out

[kind helm]

https://cannonkeys.com/products/gmk-november-fog

[inner owl]

ive tried the holy60, frog mini and tofu redux, stuck to the holy60 for now

[kind helm]

it looks so gud, but the price is... funny

[inner owl]

gmk prices

[kind helm]

da fak, how you liking the spacebar on holy60?

https://cannonkeys.com/products/cannoncaps-big-blue this one is a bit more reasonable, 70

[jaunty ruin]

this is going to be oddly specific but i really want a white and light tan set with some type of either asian or arabic doubleshot (the thingy underneath) and i dont think i'd want them to be backlit

do u know of anything even just close to that description?

[crimson sky]

just buy XMI for 40-50 instead

better quality as well

[crimson sky]

epbt duo?

[jaunty ruin]

ill look them up rq

[kind helm]

searching em right now, for key caps i dont know so many brands

[calm pulsar]

hmm there is some set with similar description

[crimson sky]

is white with black legends and red arabic sublegends

[crimson sky]

they are on aliexpress

[jaunty ruin]

theyre nice but im looking for something with a more toned tan

ill see if i can find an example

[inner owl]

I dont mind the space bar but i also am using a custom fr4 plate that can fit third party TX stabilizers so probably not the most accurate opinion here

[calm pulsar]

@sweet oak I believe you have a set with arabic letters?

[crimson sky]

xmi also has arabic sublegends (among others)

[kind helm]

thats W, because i think holy looks really good

the sound is the big issue with holy60 in my opinion

[jaunty ruin]

something close to this tan color

[crimson sky]

stock wooting (screw in) stabs are fine, just add a bit of lubrication and they are good

[inner owl]

It is the most aesthetic one imo as well

the raws help with the sound

[crimson sky]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007353935167.html

[kind helm]

you know what is brand that make these key caps, no way they only make one set of things right 0.0

[jaunty ruin]

something like this, just cleaner legends

[jaunty ruin]

omg send link

[inner owl]

this is nice

[crimson sky]

they actually don't offer arabic on aliexpress

[crimson sky]

XMI makes XMI caps

[calm pulsar]

https://clickclack.io/pages/kkb-alhambra

[inner owl]

arabic sublegends are quite hard

kkb is a good brand too

[crimson sky]

meh

UV prints wear off

[kind helm]

oh nvm, now i found the options

ty my dude, probably save this for later hehe

[calm pulsar]

are arabic double shot really possible though? probably better option would be dye sub then

[crimson sky]

they are possible, but I have not seen it on a modern set at least, dyesub is easy tho

[jaunty ruin]

do u know of anything with more tan on it than grey?

it doesnt have to be arabic btw, japanese ooks great too imo

[calm pulsar]

there is GMK Classic Arabic but the sublegends are green lol

[inner owl]

the CYL one?

[crimson sky]

oh, they have egypt tho

and arabic blue

[jaunty ruin]

lmao ancient egyptian letters

im after something oddly specific and im very sure its gonna take forever for me to find exactly what i want

[calm pulsar]

lul

[jaunty ruin]

but id rather do that than buy something i only kinda like

[kind helm]

is this a legit layout

[crimson sky]

also UV printed sublegends btw

[crimson sky]

that is russian layout

[calm pulsar]

yeah

[jaunty ruin]

is there anywhere where i can like "customize" a keycap set just to get a preview of it?

[calm pulsar]

yeah thats russian, just like on my gmk taiga

[kind helm]

do you have this in your gmk

[calm pulsar]

nah lol

there is a set called gmk perestroika though😂

[kind helm]

i am looking for one with chines sublegend, it has so many different language but not chinese. THESE ARE MADE BY CHINESE

that flag there is kinda crazy

[inner owl]

chinese sublegends arent popular haha, wouldnt you just type in english since its pinyin

[calm pulsar]

there are some gmk sets with chinese iirc

[kind helm]

yea but chinese looks cool

100% better than the cringy weebie japanese sublegend :V

[calm pulsar]

just admit that you're a commie

[inner owl]

[kind helm]

i lowkey feel like i gonna get shot if i say that

[inner owl]

how about no sublegends

[kind helm]

i had this set and i loved it

[wild hemlock]

they look good tho

[calm pulsar]

ohh the fridge set

[inner owl]

soymilk!

I bought that one for my sister

[calm pulsar]

I have dmk miami night with hiragana tripleshot on sale

[inner owl]

I bought this cannonkeys voynich set so long ago and never used it :/

https://cannonkeys.com/products/gb-mw-voynich

[kind helm]

unironically i do think russian legend looks cool

that windows and menu caps look so sexy

[inner owl]

very old school

[kind helm]

its a vibe no? :3

[kind helm]

that looks nice

[calm pulsar]

my grandma worked in a library and they had old computers with keyboards that had keycaps like this

[inner owl]

yes my most used non HE board has that grey look too

[kind helm]

i think i saw it before but i feel like this needs a case that is not black or white

[kind helm]

for confirmation, these are cherry profile right?

[inner owl]

this one?

looks like cherry

[kind helm]

yee the XMI ones

that one is XMI one too

[calm pulsar]

for cyrillic sublegends, gmk red cyrillic als looks nice

[jaunty ruin]

have u guys seen sanders keyboard

this is so clean to me

[calm pulsar]

yeah

[inner owl]

My current rotation of boards

[calm pulsar]

ohh emma is nice
i didnt get it cause had taiga, but I love the green in emma

[jaunty ruin]

ur actually teasing me

[calm pulsar]

my rotation would just be changing keycsap sets lol

[left depot]

[inner owl]

I have a taiga somewhere too but its in my office i think

[inner owl]

frog spotted!

nice pics, very themed

[inner owl]

[calm pulsar]

thanks

[jaunty ruin]

broo

i dont know what to get

i want a clean aesthetic which i wont get tired of which is why i said something monotone ish

but im so lost

i actually dont know

[calm pulsar]

you got an idea of what case youll get?

[inner owl]

this is how the spending starts

[jaunty ruin]

i think tofu60 redux

seem like the most reasonable one to get

but fuck optimums case is also clean asf

[inner owl]

i can post all the 60he configurations ive tried

[jaunty ruin]

please do

[calm pulsar]

found old pics of freebird with gmk aurora polaris

[inner owl]

frog mini, tofu redux and the holy60

[wild hemlock]

looks great

[calm pulsar]

anodized grey tofu, had that color too

wait the last one seems diff

you had 2 tofus?

[inner owl]

its the lighting

[calm pulsar]

ah

[inner owl]

its a meteorite grey

[jaunty ruin]

this one is absolutely perfect

[wild hemlock]

am i just weird or that top right keycap has to go 😭

[inner owl]

it was good match but unfortunately that set had the most warped spacebar ever

and it kept getting stuck so i swapped it out

its now this

[jaunty ruin]

top right is fine

top left is perfect

[wild hemlock]

left

[inner owl]

the weed lookin one?

[jaunty ruin]

the holes in this case, are they actually holes or is there something stopping dust, hair and other stuff from coming in?

[wild hemlock]

yes

[jaunty ruin]

its perfect

literally perfect

[wild hemlock]

the weed

[jaunty ruin]

p e r f e c t

[calm pulsar]

need that split backspace on wooting

[wild hemlock]

C A N C E R

[jaunty ruin]

weed doesnt give anyone cancer

LOL

[wild hemlock]

too close to grass

[inner owl]

unfortunately i think the holes are holes and dust can go in

[wild hemlock]

dangerous

[jaunty ruin]

uh

[jaunty ruin]

shut

shit*

[inner owl]

its how i touch grass from my pc

[jaunty ruin]

i wish they'd put something inbetween

like a light diffuser or something

[wild hemlock]

brave guy

[jaunty ruin]

that wouldbe been cool asf

[inner owl]

the bottom is covered at least since they give a foam piece that goes under, just the sides are exposed

[calm pulsar]

how about we seal the holes on holy 60 with aluminum

[wild hemlock]

then uhh let me steal it 😄

[jaunty ruin]

but then why even have holes :(

[wild hemlock]

i promise it wont be sold 🙏

[jaunty ruin]

guys im not wrong when i say keycaps change the sound of a keyboard right?

[wild hemlock]

Yeah cerakeys does a lot

[inner owl]

it will not be holy60 anymore it would be sealed60

[calm pulsar]

yeah profiles and materials affect the sound

[inner owl]

neverr

[jaunty ruin]

whats so different about cerakeys

[wild hemlock]

weight

[calm pulsar]

or in other words, a tofu redux

[inner owl]

its a very different material

thick and heavy

[inner owl]

the tofu redux has corners that i swear can stab someone

that thing is sharp

[jaunty ruin]

bro i stab myself on my keycaps

the wooting pbt ones

like the bottom side

[calm pulsar]

yeah and honestly I switchted to freebird cause redux is too blocky

[wild hemlock]

i stab myself with stabalizers 😄

[jaunty ruin]

stabalizer

[inner owl]

[jaunty ruin]

LOL

[jaunty ruin]

stablilizer brother

https://tenor.com/view/thermal-pee-infrared-fart-gif-15625195

[wild hemlock]

WHAT

man

[jaunty ruin]

bro google "wooting cera keys"

literally so unique looking

[wild hemlock]

man i got too little sleep mb

[jaunty ruin]

ur good bro im just fucking with u

[inner owl]

cerakeys are very cool lookin

[calm pulsar]

I recommend trying a good plastic set before cerakeys, cause they have their own quirks

[inner owl]

the price is also very cool lookin

[jaunty ruin]

right now i got the wooting pbt doubleshot wtv

[calm pulsar]

aint much pbt in there most likely xd

[jaunty ruin]

what is pbt even

like in terms of keycaps

ive read it a thousand times but i honestly dont know what it means

Polybutylene Terephthalate

that didnt help

[calm pulsar]

it is considered a more durable plastic, but it's more expensive due to how hard it is to work with it I believe
so usually it is a mix of abs and pbt in keycaps

thick pbt dyesub caps sound deeper, while good double shot abs like gmk sounds brighter and shines faster

[jaunty ruin]

so ur telling me i got scammed

[calm pulsar]

uhh well you got them with your board right? 😄

I mean I used stock caps for quite a while, they're fine

[jaunty ruin]

i paid extra for these

default ones were the abs ones

uglier looking ones

[calm pulsar]

the separate ones are probably better then

[calm pulsar]

but generally this is the main difference

[vague stag]

anyone tried the jade pro max with the 60He? how do they sound?

[jaunty ruin]

jade pro max

this is not iphone

what

[vague stag]

hahawhah

Jade MAX

[calm pulsar]

you mean max or pro

lol

[jaunty ruin]

😹

[vague stag]

sorry man, forgot where I was

[inner owl]

i peronally use the raw ultras

[jaunty ruin]

ur good LMAO

[vague stag]

HAHAH

[calm pulsar]

maxes are quieter, more plasticky sounding

[vague stag]

[jaunty ruin]

ill tell you right now, if you do get jade max you should hand lube them

jade pros could also use lube but its not as necessary as the max

[calm pulsar]

here's maxes vs raws in frog mini, with (I believe) fr4 plate @vague stag

[jaunty ruin]

sounds the same to me ngl

[calm pulsar]

lube won't help maxes being less sticky tho

some ppl have issues with them

I personally don't notice it in gaming, but still

[jaunty ruin]

itll help with the stem being horrible (as sander explained in the wooting video like 9 days ago)

[vague stag]

ty! they sound pretty similar

[calm pulsar]

yeah but in time itll become the same

[jaunty ruin]

i see

[calm pulsar]

yeah raws are brighter and louder though

[vague stag]

I have the G Raws, but trying to find a combination where I could make them a tad bit more deeper - guess its a loss cause 😄

[jaunty ruin]

did i make the right choice when i got the Raw HEs?

[vague stag]

but strangely enough, I kinda like how the Raws sound more with the silicon pad rather than the poron pad foam

[calm pulsar]

its a good switch

[vague stag]

I am odd

[jaunty ruin]

pooron lol

[calm pulsar]

I think jade pros might be a bit deeper cause of that sealed bottom, but also depends on the build a lot

[weak mica]

For anyone that has a tofu redux what’s a good replacement for the rubber strip? Mine are kinda falling off and don’t have the replacement strip

[crimson sky]

thin m3 double sided tape

[jaunty ruin]

tape mod would probably do the trick

3-5 layers

where is a good place to get a gummy ring for a gummy mount on my 60he?

[jade storm]

none

leave it removed

[vague stag]

have three layers already

so I think I have exhausted most of the mods (except friction mount)

does the tape mod make the PCB hot with tachyon mode enabled? thought I read that somewhere

[jaunty ruin]

try gummy mount

[jaunty ruin]

tachyon or not, it should be the same. the board doesnt take that much extra power when tachyon mode is on

[vague stag]

I have the silicon standoff a from KBD-fans. If I understand it correctly, they achieve similar effects 🙂

[vague stag]

Thank you, then I’ll stop worrying!

[jaunty ruin]

ah okay, if ur right then u should be set with all the mods, as u said :)

[vague stag]

Yeah, I think I just need to chill down a bit tbh

[jaunty ruin]

maybe the sound you're trying to get can for your scenario only be achieved with a specific case or specific switches?

[vague stag]

I think the latter tbh. I love the G Raw’s, but they are a bit too loud for my liking so have been trying to mute the high pitched sounds when it bottoms out and when they are fully released. Tried spring lubing and lubing the top housing as well, with little effect. So I guess it’s just the switch and the way it is constructed

[weak mica]

Tbh I had some nail glue and just cleaned the residue and re applied it

Plus I’ll prob give it to my gf and just build another board sometime in the spring

[shell epoch]

Hello!
I wonder if my Wooting 80HE is compatible with the Gateron Magnetic Jade Max Switch and if all the functions work properly. I mean the Actuation point, rapid trigger, etc.

[stone flax]

yes but don’t get it

[shell epoch]

wdym?

[stone flax]

just search maxes on this server

[shell epoch]

ah, got it

[stone flax]

the stem and top housing are pc

and done badly

makes feel sticky

[safe stag]

Just look at my nickname

I can confirm, don't buy them

[shell epoch]

hahahaha, ok, thanks)

Originally I am planning to mix them with metal awekeys keycaps, but seems like I should stay just with new keycaps

[summer ice]

what stabilizers for ttc switches (3.5mm) on the 80he?

anything better than the tx ap screw in?

[fluid ravine]

The edges looks so nice

[prisma stream]

typeplus x yikb or swagkey knights v2

[stone flax]

what plate

[harsh dove]

Can confirm Swagkeys Knights are some of my favorite stabs

[stone flax]

if its the 60he stock plates i dont think yikb’s fit

kinda too thick

[harsh dove]

Tx ap also isn’t guaranteed to fit

[summer ice]

80he

[stone flax]

then ur good

[summer ice]

with tx ap or the swaggkeys / typeplus

[ionic breach]

with stock

[stone flax]

paigus, designer studio, knights are all really tasty

but stock is better

cuz free

:0

[ionic breach]

[harsh dove]

Yeah stock stabs are fine

[summer ice]

but I'm moving to ttc 3.5mm, so stock don't work

[stone flax]

why wouldnt they?

[ionic breach]

they could

[stone flax]

long pole stabs arent NECESSARY until ur literally on 3.1mm

[summer ice]

https://streamable.com/1u4vkv

[stone flax]

or have really shitty keycaps

[harsh dove]

Really depends on keycap tolerance and even then they should work fine

[stone flax]

momenta de shitty keycaps then

[ionic breach]

does not happen to all people

depends on ur keycap quality

i have 3.4 with stock rn

works great

[harsh dove]

Also when do you ever press your spacebar like that

[summer ice]

a shitty steelseries pudding ones xD

nothing fancy

[harsh dove]

[stone flax]

there u go then

:p

i personally only ever got really bad see sawing on an overused jtk set

gmk was okie

even then

just buy spacers

rather than a whole new stab, no?

[harsh dove]

Yeah spacers like $3

https://divinikey.com/products/geon-stem-spacer

[summer ice]

hmm, might try then with stock then, and if somehow find them pro blematic will take a look at those

I thought the problem of the video was gonna happen 100% with 3.5mm

[stone flax]

nope

[harsh dove]

Nah, not always

It’s actually unlikely

[stone flax]

only happens when loose tolerances of a keycap mix with reduced travel switches and full travel stabs

[summer ice]

neat, thanks for the help 😄

[jaunty ruin]

pumpkiiiiinnn

[ruby hill]

Usually using normal stem with below 3.5mm switch will feel offset when you press hard on one side, but it will not become loose like in the video just a slightly tilted

[cedar gate]

Can someone link some good screws for burger mount

With 3 layer tape.mod

M2x7 is good right?

[harsh dove]

m2x5 or m2x6 should be fine

[normal meadow]

rgb looks cool sync to keycap colours :)

sorry for angle oops

[jaunty ruin]

LMAO

[jaunty ruin]

pro tip if u want ur keyboard to look just a tad bit cleaner

plug out ur keyboard, flip the cable around and plug back in

the clean black cable looks way better than with the wooting logo

in my opinion

[cedar gate]

thx

[normal meadow]

oh yeah true, I didn't even look at it tbh

[harsh dove]

and just get some of alie or amazon

[cedar gate]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D5V2KBP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 this any good

For the tofu redux case

[harsh dove]

Yeah those should be alright

[cedar gate]

Great thx

I had them saved somewhere but forgot the name lol

[wicked geode]

I was having issues with some of my switches (Jade Pro) not registering the full press and in the process I learned something; aftermarket switches that have a 3.5mm travel distance are calculated and calibrated once the keyboard has been plugged in.

Using the Magnetic Jade Pro vs a Lekker V2, you can see that the Jades make a jump around 3.5mm up to 4.0mm whereas the Lekkers are able to gradually rise up between that 3.5 - 4.0 range. What's impressive to me is that the Wooting firmware is able to tell a 3rd party switch via some kind of switch calibration that happens once the keyboard is connected. Based on my crude eyeballs. the Lekker switch seems to have a slightly longer stem than the Jade, perhaps allowing the PCB to tell what type of switch is plugged in based on the initial distance from the PCB.

This is all probably common knowledge but debugging my board was a cool gateway into experimenting with this PCB. Originally, I thought there was potential for some cool hacky DKS related stuff you could do with aftermarket switches but as it turns out, DKS is able to modify the lengths to the 0.1mm. Impressive that the SW/FW is so well thought out.

PSA to anyone looking at other HE keyboards; don't waste your time. I have tried several of them and they are all such incomplete solutions compared to the Wooting, and specifically, the Wootility. Any minor gain you'd get from a more sensitive rapid trigger implementation doesn't get close to how well thought out the wootility is. As a developer, I am super impressed with the firmware and software suite. Nothing gets close IMO.

For reference, I have one of the earliest 60HE AVR boards and it's still kicking. Receiving a HE+ PCB today for an Optimum build I am making for my brother. It's the only HE keyboard I would recommend.

[marsh saffron]

That's a lot of words

[stray tiger]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[wicked geode]

Sorry. TLDR Wooting is sick. Don't waste time with other boards.

[stone flax]

half of ur “self-discoveries” are included in the faq or slightly innacurate but u got spirit

[lament chasm]

I'm excited to mod soon, just bought a Tofu60 Redux case,Carbon Fiber Plate, WS Dash Switches and C Coil Cable today

It'll be my first time too!

[kind helm]

UwU

[chilly mural]

Uwu

[stone flax]

nyaa~ how are you today joshywoshy

[kind helm]

lmao i am great, good morning sir

[wicked geode]

Yeah I just found that post thanks to the @sage linden. Too wired on coffee this morning.

[stone flax]

[stone flax]

:0

[ionic breach]

oh ya btw

this is kinda fixed alr

you can try it out here

beta.wootility.io

[wicked geode]

It's definitely already fixed. Not having any issues now. Turns out, because of the case that I have, I haven't been pressing the switches deeply enough to engage the PCB and PC plate at the same time. I am using the Salvation and because of the leaf springs, the PCB "rebounds" a little bit, causing this issue.

[kind helm]

yee had that issue. you can line up the usb first without fully inserting, then let go of your keys before inserting

[silver grove]

@harsh dove tried it without anything between pcb and plate it got a bit more "clacky" but not in a good way xD i been through so many configs today but nothing really seems to work neither in my holy and my tofu the sound in the holy kinda gets washed out and in my tofu i get to much case ping even with foam

[kind helm]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

not sure how this would work with holy, but with tofu it is beautiful

[harsh dove]

What mounting method are you using, just standard tray mount with the Tofu?

[dapper hazel]

PSA: Wooting's HE keyboards and Wootility software far outclass other options. As a developer, I’m impressed with the firmware’s quality. My early 60HE AVR board still works great, and I'm setting up a new HE+ PCB for my brother—Wooting is the only HE keyboard I'd recommend.```

:)

[silver grove]

i actually ordered a new tofu in black with the brass weight today so i could easily do this. is it just the pieces of foam you put on the standoffs?

[silver grove]

only tray mount yes

[kind helm]

yea

[dapper hazel]

tofu was originally only tray, v2 was gasket right?

[silver grove]

but is your wooting not slipping inside the case?

[stray tiger]

yes

[harsh dove]

If you're getting bad case ping you could try getting some small orings and doing a Burger Mount mod or getting a larger oring and doing a Friction Mount/Gummy O-ring mod, either of which are fairly cheap options

[kind helm]

gummy oring friction mount with plate mount pcb. but i heard with the module pcb you can use clip in to avoid issue (not 100% on that as i don't own a module)

[dapper hazel]

yeah just looked it up

tofu was just a really really cheap gh60 compat tray mount when it came out

for a HE board a top mount would probably be best after tray

[silver grove]

this is what the holy sounds, no case foam no tape mod

[kind helm]

Do you think burger mount would be really different from Standoff Silicone Cover like in the optimum case?

[harsh dove]

The standoff covers help but I feel that Burger mount adds more cushion

[kind helm]

i would rather do that standoff cover over burger mount if they achieve similar effect, because burger mount is pain

huge pain

[silver grove]

i was thinking of giving burger mount a try

[harsh dove]

Yeah I prefer friction mounting where possible

[silver grove]

i also tried doing a diy version of a friction mount with just basic gummy rings i had at home it was fairley nice in the holy but didnt work that well in the tofu

[dapper hazel]

for tray mount? could just order pc and silcione washers

M2 i guess

could do M1.6 if they have those, wider, and then it would hold the screw in place :P

[kind helm]

something like this actually, i dont think the top cover would hit it plate and even it does it can be trim easily

[silver grove]

what size gummy o ring would i need for a 60% keeb?

[kind helm]

"GUMMY O-RING MOUNT - While the 60HE isn't specifically designed for gummy o-ring mounting, several users have reported successfully "friction fit" mounting their 60HE using a gummy o-ring. Confirmed sizes that work are Graveshift Medium 30a-50a o-rings and Bakeneko60 o-rings."

[dapper hazel]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003697132040.html

M1.6x4x0.5 soft

[kind helm]

that would be even better yea

[dapper hazel]

do this, oring, this

burger :)

[silver grove]

that sounded like a chatgpt reply xD

[dapper hazel]

get a 1mm longer screws, that way the screws can be put through first

[kind helm]

the foam tape mod + gummy oring though is even more soft :3

[silver grove]

those are for burgermount tho right?

[dapper hazel]

those are just washers

[kind helm]

search up mr turkeyson's history in this channel, skip pass all the cursed gif he sends, you will find a beautiful bouncy board that uses tray mount case

[dapper hazel]

I wouldnt consider calling tray mounting a burger mount

[silver grove]

i know his board i saw his vids on yt and absolutley loved the sound he is getting with his config

[fallen echo]

burger mounting is a mod to tray mounting

[silver grove]

with a gummy o ring mount how would i go about it covering up the usb c port? just go under the usb c or how do yall do this?

[kind helm]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message this is upgraded

[dapper hazel]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005605890747.html

:D

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006257919573.html

1.5 would be better

M2 is around 1.9 i guess so this would hang on the screw

[kind helm]

this is the definition of pain

[dapper hazel]

just have to put it on the screw first

through pcb, and then put oring on it

if get this and the pc washers

can screw on the washer, oring, washer

[silver grove]

oh i mean like the friction mount o ring

[dapper hazel]

since its 1.6mm you have to screw the screw through it first

[dapper hazel]

oh like a full oring

[silver grove]

yes

[silver grove]

i see thank youu

[kind helm]

after the creation of the fape mod, i am never doing burger mount ever again in my life (unless it is something similar to that 1000$ board that featured in tahea's video, but that thing is closer to a gasket/ tadpole mounting than tray mount)

[lone plume]

just saw the wooting x optiuim 60he. not gasket mounted D=

wish it was ><

[dapper hazel]

the case is kinda odd

[harsh dove]

No but has friction fit pad included to do a friction mount

[harsh dove]

Which is similar to this

[lone plume]

ah

[uneven cradle]

A proper gasket mount would most likely need a redesign of the pcb

[lone plume]

i mean alt can redesign the plate

[harsh dove]

Yeah, something similar to how the frog mini works

keep same pcb, change plate design

[kind helm]

imagine if wooting did something like that for optimum. but optimum is more of a techtuber

[lone plume]

but then after market will be a headache

[harsh dove]

Well I think they wanted to keep it somewhat similar to the Alumaze design, and also one of their first collabs, so I don't think they went all out crazy so to speak

[kind helm]

me no businese man(thank god), but i think if they actually make it, plates would be made for it, hybekeyboard and kbdfans for example shown that.

[harsh dove]

Yeah, there's a few 3rd party custom plate makers for 60HE

[uneven cradle]

If there was more flex it would probably be better to have a daughter board like the 80he

[tender valley]

whats a gasket mount?

[kind helm]

wooting 60 pro with gummy oring mount cut outs, daughter board, and 8k pooling(honestly this part i dont even care that much about :3) ?!

[tender valley]

i ordered the optimum stuff with the geon switches im super gassed, also siwtching to ansi for the first time

anyone got some tips for getting used to it? coming from de layout

[dapper hazel]

usually tiny strips of foam where the plate lays on

[uneven cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-darkside-star-wars-evil-innerme-gif-12686883553708718330

[harsh dove]

beat me to it

[tender valley]

are they that good? i thought the lekker v1 were really good already, only thing i didnt like was the weight, i came from 45 on the apex pro

[tender valley]

holy moly

[uneven cradle]

I'm a fan, the lekker v1.5s are a big improvement over the v1s though

[dapper hazel]

so best thing you could do with a hot swap HE board is probably top or bottom mount

with a steel plate :P

[silver grove]

are there any other options that are available in eu? i couldnt find any

[kind helm]

lekker v1 in my personal opinion is horrible in terms of sound and feeling. but after all they are the first HE switches, i think?

[dapper hazel]

you check keygem? they have like verything these days, next youd just order on aliexpress

[silver grove]

gonna check them havent heard of them till now

[kind helm]

me in us, me don't know, but i tried searching as Bakeneko60's extra/accessaries then i found some options, don't know the shipping cost for you though

[dapper hazel]

probably next to candykeys the second largest seller in the EU now?

[silver grove]

i guess i would find the exact one on aliexpress

[dapper hazel]

172mm ID I think maybe @harsh dove knows

[silver grove]

yea i checked its about 20€ for gummy ring xD

keygem got o rings but none of them are in stock

[dapper hazel]

https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005004654090288.html

maybe?

[kind helm]

i think i got mine for 10usd, 5 for oring itself, and 5 for shipping. shipping is kinda tough but it is what it is in this community :3 the mass produced options are all relatively meh.

[dapper hazel]

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Boxonly-Silicone-Round-Rings-Gasket/dp/B0CCRFBFLG/

idk where in EU you are

[silver grove]

germany to be exact

[dapper hazel]

and yeah those rings are always expensive unless you order them in bulk from the factory

[silver grove]

that one looks good yea

[dapper hazel]

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Boxonly-Nitrile-Rubber-Gasket-Grommets/dp/B0CB3KC7XG/

[silver grove]

i also found those no idea which size tho https://www.amazon.de/sourcing-map-Nitrilkautschuk-118-200mm-Innendurchmesser/dp/B07XQFFCHQ/ref=sr_1_48?__mk_de_DE=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&nsdOptOutParam=true&sr=8-48

[dapper hazel]

theres multiple but idk about the shore

[dapper hazel]

so that one is 70A

[silver grove]

70A is the stiffness right?

[dapper hazel]

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/MACHSWON-Silicone-Gasket-Washer-Sealing/dp/B0B9BWDG5N/

[dapper hazel]

the shore yeah, how hard it is

[silver grove]

is there like a huge difference between like A30 and A70?

[harsh dove]

CS(Thickness) 3.53mm
ID(Inner Diameter) 177.39mm
OD(Outer Diameter) 184.45mm

iirc these are about the size you want for Friction Mounting

[dapper hazel]

yep a lot

[silver grove]

damn

[kind helm]

i am saving this for later, i assume this works with all 60% pcb as long as the screw-in stab is not blocking things in weird ways?

[dapper hazel]

30A is a lot harder than 70A

you want 70A

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[silver grove]

might have found one https://www.amazon.de/Nitril-Innendurchmesser-Außendurchmesser-Breite-Dichtungsring/dp/B0848VSWB8/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_de_DE=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=MQQL26CSR1IO&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ZGaJvn2UOLUKaKuk5MqnKojPO4ZYnyOfY6KudXs0fnEziUkmtadfGBZgKbYrjtOiFmxmEqcvyvNlyvlRimlxDh7lRzuM8GIzpPprjWFzt357leEvOXSv97XOYGy9s4zvOt9m2F-2qO54GNwz4mc-kwi7j1EMa8zov7wRROgKabz0vz04pCnJs2_LPEw_RgwPt3wMacXw-ihD8AWhVxZuJ3HncuLDbGuVPSBi-KN2mK-3YJG8u6craY-OtSA0NAJAYXR1HTbUB6UZe4VmqyNtCwxh924bkFB-eSpVt2RxxIc.lj0gpaR3-j_rpcmgPObJ8r4SmA_3-pd5ellTEi9aUGs&dib_tag=se&keywords=o+ring+177mm+innendurchmesser&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1731606110&sprefix=o+ring+177mm+innendurchmesse%2Caps%2C79&sr=8-3

[kind helm]

thank you sir

[silver grove]

i thought it is reversed so 30A is softer than 70A

[dapper hazel]

I'd rather take the 173 at 70A

[harsh dove]

if screw in, you basically want thinner so like 2.5mm - 3mm

[harsh dove]

It is reversed

[kind helm]

ah thats good to know, so screw-in is not the end. tyty ❤️

[harsh dove]

30a is soft
70a is hard

[silver grove]

i got screw in stabs -_-

[violet plover]

Hello everybody I just bought my first ever wooting 60he and also this is my first keyboard that can be modded and I seen that lubed switches are “better” so I’m wondering if I can buy some pre lubed switches for the 60he so can anyone help?

[dapper hazel]

yeah mixed it up

30A seems very soft though haha

[silver grove]

would 4mm thickness still work with screw ins?

[dapper hazel]

probably, if you get 30A haha

[harsh dove]

You doing burger mount or friction?

[silver grove]

want to go for friction

tried a lil cheap diy option and it felt pretty nice

[harsh dove]

That's likely going to be too thick

[silver grove]

fuck

[harsh dove]

could also replace backspace and spacebar with clip-in or plate mount stabs and leave the rest as screw-in

[violet plover]

Hello everybody I just bought my first ever wooting 60he and also this is my first keyboard that can be modded and I seen that lubed switches are “better” so I’m wondering if I can buy some pre lubed switches for the 60he so can anyone help?

[harsh dove]

Most switches are factory lubed, but if you're referring to hand lubing, you'll have to do that yourself with a lube kit

[silver grove]

wooting pc plate should be compatible with plate mount and screw ins right?

[harsh dove]

Yes

[silver grove]

i found one with 3.5mm would it still be to thick?

[harsh dove]

For screw ins, yes
For clip in or plate mount stabs, no

[silver grove]

what thickness would you say is max for screw ins? 3mm or even smaller

[harsh dove]

yeah 3mm

2.5 - 3

[wicked geode]

I always forget.. should we be getting long pole stabs for screw-ins?

[harsh dove]

Not neccesary but if you're running "LP" HE switches then they can alleviate wobbly keycap issues if you have any

[wicked geode]

Is there a way to determine whether a switch is LP? Like the Jade Pro's... are those an LP switch?

[harsh dove]

Well in terms of HE, they're not actually Long pole, they're just shorter travel via closed bottom housing, but yes, Jade Pros are considered a LP switch because they have 3.5mm travel

[silver grove]

@harsh dove i found one with id 175 and ad 180mm with 2.6 and one with id 180 and ad 188 which one should i take?

[wicked geode]

Gotcha. Thanks!

[harsh dove]

I'd go with the first option

175x180x2.6

[silver grove]

ight thanks

[harsh dove]

May be a tad tight but should work

[silver grove]

and for the stiffness is 70A very hard or doable

[harsh dove]

that's pretty hard duro but should be doable

I'd go for around 40-50

if you can

[silver grove]

only ones i found are 70A

still looking for 50A

[harsh dove]

Ah okay

[dapper hazel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/tio6wr/questions_about_gummy_oring_mod/

[silver grove]

it would prolly still be way softer compared to tray mount no?

[dapper hazel]

its all going to be softer most likely

[harsh dove]

Yes and likely remove your case ping issue

[silver grove]

that sentence sold me🫡

i also found one with 3mm instead of 2.6mm rather go safe with 2.6 or 3?

[harsh dove]

3mm should be good

[silver grove]

and its ordered thanks for your help mate appreciate it :D

[harsh dove]

lmk if it works out or if I failed you

[silver grove]

i will

if it still sounds like ass imma just throw the board out of the window xD

[celest parrot]

Is geon raw he still the best switch?

[cedar gate]

thats mostly based on opinion

most peoples favorites however is the raw or jade pro

[celest parrot]

tysm man got it

[valid plover]

is hand lubing the lekkers 60g worth it or is the factory lube job good enough?

or comparable

has anyone also tried using ceramic keycaps on their wooting? are heavier springs needed?

[harsh dove]

Hand lubing is usually better simply cause you can be more consistent

[harsh dove]

Yeah there's a few members here who have used Cerakeys, and yes about 60g springs or heavier are needed

[valid plover]

welp, ig imma spend my day building my module

[harsh dove]

primarily for the bigger keys like spacebar etc

[valid plover]

im guessing custom springs are needed for spacebar?

80g good enough or i can go lower?

[median wasp]

good enough id say

[cedar gate]

if your lubing knights is it fine to just syringe some krytox in there or should you open them up and brush them?

also is just krytox fine or do you need dialectic as well

[little glen]

Just only take the 60% part of it

bottom row will be a little different but thats easy to figure out

[stone flax]

mictlan my beloved

[dusky jay]

is the wooting60HE hotswap?

[dapper hazel]

what you do about the usb port? thats okay?

[cedar gate]

yes

[dusky jay]

oh what a great key bord

[cedar gate]

fr

[dusky jay]

im saving up for it rn

[cedar gate]

it is worth every cent

[dusky jay]

do you have it?

[cedar gate]

yes i modded the hell out of it 🤣

[dusky jay]

did you 🙂

[cedar gate]

yeah i tape modded burger mounted case swapped keycap swapped and lots of other stuff

[dusky jay]

nice

[cedar gate]

i put in screw in stabs recently but not entirely sure about lubing them

[dusky jay]

it you should

[cedar gate]

ik i am definitely going too but not completely sure if i should just syringe some in or fully lube

[dusky jay]

im a keybord pro so i dont know how to

[uneven cradle]

Might as well fully lube and then tune as needed with the syringe

[cedar gate]

so you would reccomend that over just syringing some in?

[uneven cradle]

Just go light especially if you're using thicker lube

[cedar gate]

and is it alr if i just use krytox or is dialectic a must

[uneven cradle]

I just used krytox 205g0

Can go pretty heavy with it since it's a lighter lube

[dusky jay]

well imma get of discord now cya

[cedar gate]

great thanks

also one more question lol

i was buying a syringe is it ok if i take lube out of the syringe and brush that on or do i need to buy a bottle and a syringe

[uneven cradle]

It's all good either way

[cedar gate]

k thx

[harsh dove]

it sits above the usb

"it" as in the oring

[dapper hazel]

the port doesnt interfer with the cases cutout with the ring in use? lays higher/lower?

[knotty iron]

I wanted to know what was up with the top corner why its missing

[harsh dove]

Nah you just have to push the entire pcb down into the case with the oring around it and line it up with the usb port

[stone flax]

a stabilizer

[harsh dove]

https://youtu.be/Uohbf2UH6FY?si=82Ic-6yusYpiEqrR&t=236

Like so (starts @ 4:01)

[glossy pagoda]

Someone at the factory got hungry

[knotty iron]

lol

[uneven cradle]

[balmy shoal]

is there an ETA on TTC Magnetos test?

[uneven cradle]

A sound test? Have to ask Sander

[balmy shoal]

yes, that's what I meant. I would appreciate it

[uneven cradle]

There's probably some members in here who have done a sound test of them, although not sure about the POM version still waiting on that one

[glossy pagoda]

He filmed the sound test, edited it, then his SD card died and it went poof

[fallow imp]

wait what, did he delete the edited copy on the pc he edited it on before it was all done and uploaded?
or does it get edited while still on the card.. which seems a bit weird
(I dont do video editing)

[fresh cipher]

which mods are recommended for the 80he?

[glossy pagoda]

Maybe it was only recorded not edited?

All I know is that an SD card died and something had to be refilmed

[fallow imp]

ah ok, probably makes a bit more sense 😄

[stone flax]

mods that do what

[digital temple]

Hi. I want to lube the stabilizers of my 80HE. Currently I'm trying to remove the pcb from the switch plate so I can remove the stab. Do I have to unscrew ALL the screws or just some specific ones?

And do I have to remove the switches first?

[untold wigeon]

There is a guy on here that did.

I’ll look it up. They sounded terrible lol

Here it is. Leo Clacks.

https://youtu.be/LKID0ORh1xk?si=5j2_cdIDRDy6FfQn

[fresh cipher]

make the use of the keyboard more enjoyable for little money?

[untold wigeon]

@balmy shoal look up.

[stone flax]

is there something not enjoyable with the keyboard rn

be it sound feel looks

[kind helm]

do you want thocky, creamy, or clacky

or thock and creamy and clacky all at once *v*

[stone flax]

its hard to say how to make a keyboard better without raising whats making it bad in the first place

modding so ur board is “more better” is wack

make it have purpose

[kind helm]

i agree 1000% sir i am just messing with you :3

[stone flax]

ik ik T-T

i just dont get the idea of modding to mod

i get the fun aspect of doing stuff so change the experience

but atleast have an aim

[kind helm]

i mean probably is just thinking "oh i just heard about this keyboard modding thing and it sounds fun, lets see what its about", but the first place id go is probably youtube instead of discord :3 i can't read

[stone flax]

i get that but again we dont even know what they like or dislike about the board so trying to prescribe modification for improvement is futile

the only time mods arent preference is when a board has inherently problematic characteristics

then stuff like forcebreak, tuning stabilizers pop up

[kind helm]

nah i say switch wobble and dry stab are objectively bad!

[stone flax]

everything else is a step after preferences are made

so yeah as far as blanket recommendations go

the only one worth always considering is if your stabs need tuning

unless you like tick and rattle and mush then

[kind helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrt21laTvpA my favorite keyboard of all time

probably the most cursed thing i have seen in this community

[balmy shoal]

that makes me think that jade max is the best, surely they are cheap, RIGHT?

[untold wigeon]

Y'all, do I have to twist the JST cable before plugging it into my wooting 80he module?

Cuz its not fitting :(

[stray tiger]

It only goes in 1 way so if its not in the proper orientation, then yes twist it

[balmy shoal]

side with sharpie dot opposite to the PCB (at least in my case)

[untold wigeon]

Okay yea Ima need to twirl it

[random loom]

Creamy HE testing phase

[visual moat]

can you guys tell me if this fits the 60he

[visual moat]

@untold wigeon @tepid garden

[uneven cradle]

It's Gh60 so most likely

[visual moat]

does the 60he have a standoff in the middle

[uneven cradle]

It does

Well actually I don't think stock case does but the alumaze has one

[hidden rampart]

just installed Jade Max's on my 80he... they sound and feel stuuupid good

[balmy shoal]

do not say anything like that - it makes me want some and cheapest I could find that ship to poland is 122$ / 90pc after taxes and import fees. That is 1.36$ / 1pc. And that is not from a known retailer, just AliExpress...

[uneven cradle]

It's alright Raw HEs are a lot cheaper (and better imo )

[hollow dagger]

Do not get it.

[hidden rampart]

DO IT

[tranquil bear]

Hey guys so i am new to wooting and i was thinking of getting the 60he plus and i found this drunkdeer alumium case and i was wodering if it would fit the 60he+ any thoughts ?

[stone flax]

raws better

scam price lmao

[fluid ravine]

Incompatible

[kind helm]

does anyone know where i can buy a cable like this for less than 50dollars in the us. white sleeve, slimline quick disconnect, good lookin usb connector, around 100mm/4'' on keyboard to QDC side and 1400mm/56'' QDC to host side

[fluid ravine]

Kbdfans

[kind helm]

kbdfan sells this for 35 but this sepecific color is sold out

[fluid ravine]

It seems

[tranquil bear]

oh damn rip , thanks for the insight

[fluid ravine]

Ah damn

I actually like the looks of this cable

I was considering but too bad they weren't on ali

[fluid ravine]

Np

[tranquil bear]

do you have any recommendations on alumium cases ?

[kind helm]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805614657993.html

it is on ali, some colors are sold out, i don't know when they gonna restock

[fluid ravine]

Most common tray mount case you can buy for the 60he is the Tofu60 Redux

[tranquil bear]

interesting , i will look into it thanks.

[fluid ravine]

There are more compatible cases like the PSD60, Alumaze, Optimum Case (recent collab), Free bird, etc

[kind helm]

i'd say for the popular alu case options for 60 relatively on the more budget side right now are: tofu redux(60 case, 25 weight) > optimium(120) > leggera(55-65 in the future) = freebird(57.4?!) > alumazed (120) in terms of value in my perspective :3)

[kind helm]

PSD60 that looks like the one you got

[fluid ravine]

I think free bird is cheaper than optimum

[fluid ravine]

Mines more similar to the tofu v1 actually

It's just a generic gh60 case

But the build of it looks more like a tofu

[tranquil bear]

i was thinking of getting the optimum but i need to wait till dec 5th and its almost 100 💀

[stone flax]

leggera leggera leggera

[fluid ravine]

Dec 5 my bday

[fluid ravine]

Oh yeah leggera I forgot abt that

[kind helm]

i just checked freebird's price

[tranquil bear]

oh nice happy early birthday

[kind helm]

57.4 dollars

[fluid ravine]

Isn't it gonna come out like Q1 of 2025?

[kind helm]

that is a banger

[fluid ravine]

Thank you (≧▽≦)

[kind helm]

keebsforall

[fluid ravine]

Yupp

[kind helm]

i remember before it was like 80, oh yea 82 it literally says it on the thing

freebird is light af though so polyfill gang rise up on that one

[fluid ravine]

Yee

[kind helm]

freebird to me is like a cheaper better looking alumeh

[kind helm]

where you think leggera fits in :3 i am not sure how they gonna price it

[stone flax]

its 55-65usd domestically

[rocky hawk]

any custom stabs recommendations for 60he?

[kind helm]

weight similar to freebird, but very decent price still id say

not too sure why are there 5 stamp(? holes? me no speak good english)

[kind helm]

stock stab

[wicked geode]

I know CableMods has some. Not sure about getting under $50 if I am being honest.

[kind helm]

me no like their usb connector compare to the newer ones. ty though :3

[balmy shoal]

long pole stabs for 3.5mm switches and normal for 4mm, correct?

[fringe quarry]

has anyone here compared low profile jade vs low profile jade pro

[untold wigeon]

To use wootility do I need to permanently have a chromium browser installed?

[kind helm]

thats what i do :3

[uneven cradle]

Either that or download the app

[untold wigeon]

I downloaded the sowftware but it says I need browser 😭

[kind helm]

mercury for regular use, thorium for chromium only sites and google cast :3

[heavy slate]

Guys I just lubed my stabilizers what else can I do to make my spacebar sound better

[stone flax]

what do you mean by "better"

if theres no ticking or rattling ur already on the right track

[knotty iron]

i was thinking maybe it would be a good idea for wooting to make silicone spacebar plate light diffusers and spacebar silicone that is translucent, also of silicone

[round scarab]

Inucables on Etsy, dunno if the cable might have any problems with Wooting tho

[kind helm]

not the connector i am looking for but thanks

[round scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/falling-walter-white-ffillingame-gif-21517984

[lost garnet]

does the tofu60 v2 work on the 60he? If so, it it good? Is is better than the redux?

[uneven cradle]

Not compatible

[lost garnet]

does a aluminum case even rly effect the sound?

[uneven cradle]

It does

[barren wasp]

are wooting stock stabs good enough for shorter travel distance switches like gateron jade pros

[heavy slate]

how do I get rid of the pingy sound

[short swallow]

are cerakeys and wooting 60he with jade switches compatible?

[uneven cradle]

Cerakeys will need a heavier spring for the spacebar but otherwise yes they are compatible

[untold wigeon]

Yes

[untold wigeon]

Lube your springs

[untold wigeon]

Yes

[dapper hazel]

search for kfa on reddit first:
https://x.com/Violet_OOC/status/1783587658398347720

[dapper hazel]

that doesnt look like standard gh60 hookup that the 60he uses - you need to look for gh60 compat cases - ref: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34959.0

[short swallow]

Ok thank you

[stone flax]

no

[agile latch]

Oh my god they sound insane (WS Dash)

[real meadow]

i'm hard set on the gateron jade pros or the gateron jade max's. anyone have any idea if some place sells them and i can get a black friday sale off them?

[stone flax]

raws

maxes are pretty terrible

[real meadow]

raws?

[stone flax]

geon raw he

[marsh saffron]

the v2 doesnt work

oh that was an older message

[real meadow]

oh interesting, you looked into this topic a ton? I'm getting ready for when my 80he arrives so you think the geon raw he is best? better than the jade pros?

[stone flax]

ye

[real meadow]

whats your thought on the jade pros?

[stone flax]

a sidegrade to raws that cost more and fuck up rgb

[real meadow]

yikes. thanks for letting me know ill go for it 🙂

[real meadow]

what makes the maxes so terrible?

like when it gets pressed in, it sticks?

[glacial wind]

both

it sticks when pressed and also the keycaps get stuck to the switches (but honestly that's a fairly minor issue for 2nd one)

[real meadow]

gotcha, so whats your recommended best switch for the 80he then?

[glacial wind]

raw he/jade pro/ttc magneto (only if you don't care about sound and feel for 3rd one)

[fluid ravine]

wdym

[stuck grove]

anyone got switch recs for 60he? Not exactly sure what i'm looking for, just lmk what some good ones are and I'll look up sound tests and stuff. Im worried abt finding sketch ones that mess with performance just wanna know which are compatible :)

[sacred elm]

geon raw he

[fluid ravine]

what are compatible and incompatible
and you can go to #1070668460905988106 and find some wooting stations or setups that people have posted, some will provide their own sound tests to give people their own thoughts

[late glade]

Hi guys, so I’ve decided on a keyboard. Going to go the 60he route since 80he delivery takes a while. And I’m going with the geon raw he switches. However lastly I want to get some custom keycaps of some sort. Mainly going for the white appearance. Any website recommendations?

[stuck grove]

what a monster spreadsheet

ty!

[fluid ravine]

well better learn to read it heh

there's a chart but i dont remember where to find it

[stuck grove]

got my caps on cannonkeys, they have some nice options, can always look on the gmk website if thats the route u want, can probably find nice white pbt keycaps just by searching them up i think they'd be pretty common

[fluid ravine]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/
Here's a link to a vendor list, scroll down and find your region, and below it there is a list of websites available at your region providing things like keyboard, keyboard accessories, etc.

Basic white keycap theme set you can get is BoW Keycaps (Black on White)

Otherwise you can get some other keycaps that interest you depending on your budget, theme, keycap profile/material, and all that.

[late glade]

Thank you!!!

[fluid ravine]

no problemo

[late glade]

And all of these switches will fit with my switches?

Keycaps*

[fluid ravine]

Yes

If they are MX style keycaps then they will fit

I mean almost all keycaps you can find or buy are MX style anyways

[calm pulsar]

yeah freebird is lovely

imagine more color options and little notches for the fape mod

would be a nice tray mount case

[harsh dove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1219653840102494300/1268888722103861280/HEswitchesv5.2.png?ex=6737d4f6&is=67368376&hm=dc72496e1f77de36629c8dffbf06b7e5742ad61f6281da067cbb93d7fb69d204&

[fluid ravine]

thanks

[supple swan]

anyone know how to get cheaper shipping to Canada? or another way to get these
i normally dont mind paying but the cost of the shipping is more than half of the geon raw switches

[ionic breach]

using retailers

they will have cheaper shipping

note that they will go on sale next monday on geon tho

[stone flax]

divinikeys, kbdfans, aliexpress, etc..

[supple swan]

thanks, ill look into them

[violet plover]

what are some good keycaps looking for either translucent or dark purple or any slick and minimal

[past helm]

We're having a big sale coming up, get it then

[sacred elm]

Hello Geon

[chilly mural]

Berry noise

[jaunty ruin]

a bit too late, already ordered 2 days ago :(

[violet plover]

i ordered like 30 minutes ago and i didnt even know about the sale:((((((((((

[jaunty ruin]

yeah it kinda sucks

i dont think there will be any discount compensations either

[violet plover]

most likely not

[sacred elm]

You can cancel and wait for sale?

[late glade]

Is there a way to get the 60he with a white case or only black?

[stone flax]

buy a gh60 case

[sacred elm]

There are white alum cases for example alumaze from wooting and tofu60 redux from kbdfans

[late glade]

Shafie any recommendations on keycaps by chance. I’m looking for top translucent all white keys. I kind’ve want to get a silver look for some keys as well. And possibly some red if I can find top translucent red keys.

[violet plover]

I can????

And how?

[sacred elm]

if its not shipped yes, email them

[sacred elm]

I dont know about keycaps sorry

[late glade]

Dang no worries, maybe someone can help. I’ve been looking for some lol.

[violet plover]

Shit same😂

[sacred elm]

https://shop.app/p/7946915119273?variantId=43782080463017&utm_source=shop_app&utm_medium=shop_app_share&utm_campaign=share_product&link_alias=qMMUfkqN9t6Sx7

maybe this?

but they are expensive and out of stock nvm

[late glade]

What does cherry profile pbt mean for keycaps?

[zealous pecan]

What is the best option if it ain't possible to get a syringe with krytox 205g0 for the spacebar stabs where I live? Can I manually put some in a syringe I buy myself or? Probably a dumb question but I'm fairly new to all this 😁

[late glade]

Trying to buy keycaps from flashquark but it’s not letting me add to cart or buy. And not letting me make an account why’s that?

[ionic breach]

i mean you dont actually need a syringe

but ya you can find some lube syringes on amazon or aliexpress

[fluid ravine]

what set

i like it

[calm pulsar]

gmk hippo

https://cannonkeys.com/products/gmk-hippo?utm_source=Klaviyo&utm_medium=campaign

gb starts in jan

[fluid ravine]

aighttt

price drop?

[calm pulsar]

you mean what will the price be?

[fluid ravine]

yea

[calm pulsar]

seems it is unknown, since its a new set
I guess it will be like with cosmos, the price will be shown once group buy starts

[fluid ravine]

alr

[calm pulsar]

lol

[fluid ravine]

[calm pulsar]

this will look nice on a transparent 80he

[fluid ravine]

oh this is clean

[calm pulsar]

yeah I would think this set is a classic, but it seems totally new

[chilly mural]

Me also interested

That pink is my life

[icy dome]

does anyone know if the optimum collab will be in continuous production? im waiting until christmas to try and get it unless anyone has better recommendations for the 60he

[near galleon]

My wooting60he+ module just came in, just waiting for my geon raw switches to come in so I can assemble it

@icy dome I feel like it will be continuous since he was a major video on that blew up wooting60he and gave them exposure and just another option for case design

and keycaps

[ionic breach]

there will be more batches

[icy dome]

alr thanks

[ionic breach]

but its not gunna be permanent

[devout totem]

Link?

[icy dome]

any better case keycap and switch mods u guys like a lot?

[jaunty ruin]

its like a limited time thing

[ionic breach]

geon's store?

type geon into google lmao

[devout totem]

Nothing there

[jaunty ruin]

geon.works

[icy dome]

im tired of how bad my l45 v1 sounds

[jaunty ruin]

buddy read whats being said

"We're having a big sale coming up, get it then"

[icy dome]

does anyone have a 60% case they like better than optimum's?

[ionic breach]

imo ya

optimum is very clean very minimalist

[icy dome]

what would u recommend

[ionic breach]

a few of the tofu variations i like better

but its just preference

[icy dome]

alr

i feel optimum is nice but a bit 2 minimalistic

[ionic breach]

https://kbdfans.com/products/tofu60-redux-case?variant=42716692512907 and https://kbdfans.com/products/tofu60-redux-case?variant=42646888644747

[icy dome]

those are ur favorites?

[ionic breach]

wooting also has another collab with owlabs

[icy dome]

ill check those out

[ionic breach]

for a 60

[icy dome]

alr thanks

also you think its good if i mod switches from l45 to magnetic jades or l45v2

[ionic breach]

if ur not satisfied with lekker v1s

[icy dome]

alright thanks

[uneven cradle]

Owlabs case will most likely be out of most people's budget and pretty limited

Like all the other keyboards they make, they are pretty high end

[ruby hill]

we need optimum 80

[jaunty ruin]

cant happen if u mean directly from wooting

if another company decides to give it a shot then its possible

[calm pulsar]

wdym

[sacred elm]

wooting can make optimum case for 80he but thats very unlikely