🔧│keyboard_modding

[kind helm]

i kinda have to if i want to try hard right now, because my table is not completely flat, has a gap...

[jaunty ruin]

so ig 1600x800 mm

[kind helm]

but i really enjoy just using deskmat because my space looks much better

[jaunty ruin]

how bad is it?

[jaunty ruin]

oh thats no issue

i mean u should not be able to feel that

[kind helm]

for some reason this table even though it can't fold it still has that

[jaunty ruin]

can u feel the gap at all?

[kind helm]

nope. can feel that really clearly when i play

[jaunty ruin]

hmm

do u tend to press down on ur desk with ur mouse when u play games?

[sweet oak]

I do have a little weird bit i can feel on my right desk piece

Right piece isnt at the same height

[kind helm]

guess which game i used deskmat

[jaunty ruin]

ur joking right

[kind helm]

nope

[jaunty ruin]

how the fuck did u do that just cuz of a desk pad

what

[kind helm]

the left side of the table in that picture is lower than the right

when i turn around in game, my mouse literally makes a soft banging sound...

[jaunty ruin]

ohhhh

[kind helm]

if i lay my mouse pad on top of the desk mat

[jaunty ruin]

wait yeah i see it now

https://criminal.host/8b9mnyvf24zy.png

[kind helm]

then everything is cool

but if i dont use a mouse pad on top, its just a33 cheek

[jaunty ruin]

this is a very cheap fix but

u could try to just put a big piece of cardboard underneath it all

[kind helm]

espeically like the gap is right on the "neural spot" of me holding my mouse

[jaunty ruin]

and mousepad on top

i mean deskpad*

[kind helm]

i was thinking grabbing a large leather desk pad off amazon

[jaunty ruin]

is that desk necessary to u? because honestly i think you would have more joy being on ur pc by replacing it

cheap desks like ikea idåsen arent bad at all

and the brown (wood) variant is really nice aswell

[kind helm]

its a height adjustable table bb, i dont got that kind of money to replace it

plus its a 40 by 80 or something around there

[jaunty ruin]

ikea's idåsen is height adjustable aswell and its about 285 usd

[kind helm]

i also want to try leather desk mat, but i don't know what color works best

[jaunty ruin]

i really dont know if i can recomment a leather pad, full size or not

but hey its ur choice

[sweet oak]

Could maybe get a wood block that fits the same length? Just plop it on the frame?

[kind helm]

more fancy height adjustable than ikea one

[jaunty ruin]

as described its not rlly the gap thats the issue, its the height difference

[sweet oak]

I see

[jaunty ruin]

the ikea one has an automated version aswell, though more expensive ofc

[sweet oak]

Also, beeeg kitty

[kind helm]

lowkey though that ikea one i had before i moved

[jaunty ruin]

u had the idåsen?

[kind helm]

its better... maybe more s44ty material but just one smooth flat plane

just double checked to be sure, yep

with the handle thing to move up and down right?

[jaunty ruin]

mhm

2 of my buddies have that desk and its amazing

everytime im at their house we talk abt it

[kind helm]

i liked it too, but i was getting everything off amazon

xD

[jaunty ruin]

amazon desk is wild

how did that go

[kind helm]

they ship the box to you on the first floor. you somehow get it to your room and build it yourself

but ikea same s44t in that way

i did break 1 ikea desk when i was high school though raging little boy

[jaunty ruin]

😭

[kind helm]

i remember its hollow inside

[jaunty ruin]

ive never broken a desk ever

ive punched holes in my walls tho

german design roof

[kind helm]

thats nutty

LMAO

[chilly mural]

Cat looks lovely

[jaunty ruin]

yea didnt really intend for the wall to actually break

quickly learned to not punch my walls with anger

[kind helm]

she is hella nice, never gave me a mess even when she just moved in

[crimson sky]

I think my hands would break before I got a hole in the walls

[untold wigeon]

I have one just like that. And of course I never stand at it lol

[untold wigeon]

Get suede

[kind helm]

bruh 15 dollar a cheap one off amazon or 129 usd for some fancy one

i am just trying it out first

Sourced from the lush landscapes of Italy

bruh

[untold wigeon]

If it’s pu leather it will become horribly tacky from sweat

[kind helm]

ah yeee better leather is more breathable

but should be okay, i dont sweat at all other than maybe a tiny bit on my hand if i do aim train

but i am struggling with color though i am thinking getting a big solid colored one underneath my desk mat and should cover more space

maybe just a white one, if i dont like it with amazon i can always return

[sweet oak]

Perhaps ill get this mat to go alomg with the new color scheme my keycap set has brought to the setup?

[fluid ravine]

Well well well look who's a mod now

[sweet oak]

Mhm, no longer orange/yellow

[fluid ravine]

Forever blue

[fluid ravine]

Well congratulations

Am proud for you

[kind helm]

the good kind of blue too, not the 80he kind

[sweet oak]

In my mind im still light blue, as im still a customer just like you

But thank you for the congratulations

[fluid ravine]

Who said I bought a wooting

[kind helm]

[sweet oak]

[fluid ravine]

LOL

Chat am I a fake?!

[sweet oak]

mat bought

[kind helm]

if i were to add a solid colored leather mat underneath the desk mat that covers bigger space,what color you think i should go with

[tired frigate]

Hahahah

[ionic breach]

` grey or creme ig

but decluttering comes first

[kind helm]

creme like light beige color?

hellnah everything got a use on that table

[ionic breach]

get organisers

[kind helm]

i just got the side table not long ago too, some of those stuff used to be on the table

[kind helm]

as long as i dont see it when i sit down i am chilling

[kind helm]

cream i was worrying would get too blended with the desk mat, but grey is kinda interesting

if its light color enough i think it would be nice

[ionic breach]

ya like a light textured grey

this even

[glossy pagoda]

Optimum grey? 👀

[ionic breach]

say what now?

optimum has a grey?

[kind helm]

ah i actually thought about grey, but the options i was looking at is too blueish

[ionic breach]

ya i kinda hate white tables too

shame mine is unremovable...

[kind helm]

white table is great until you get a black case like a dumb a33 without thinking about the matching

i need to go back to defaulting white case

both my tofu and salvation are black because for tofu i was excited for wooting and salvation excited for the mounting

[ionic breach]

why 2 deskmats btw?

[kind helm]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message this conversation :3

[ionic breach]

[kind helm]

[jaunty ruin]

what is the general opinion on keycap profiles? ive heard from so many ppl that cherry profile is superior and even tho i have cherry profiled keycaps i still think (based off how they look) that those round ish keycaps look way better

also look more comfy

[dark quest]

I just got one of those more flat/uniform keycap sets and I enjoy it more for gaming. I still personally prefer typing on cherry profile though. But it's all personal preference.

[stone flax]

its

pre

fe

rence

[tawdry tree]

Gateron is aiming at 2 new magnetic switches a month it seems.

[kind helm]

It's the fusion of soul and control

[jaunty ruin]

ofc it is, my question was towards the bias of peoples thoughts on it since i dont have anything to compare it to

[stone flax]

bc a lot of keycaps and manufacturers tend towards cherry

more cherry means more usage and more good keycaps

more exposure and more quality and more options = more preference for it

[jaunty ruin]

what do u like the most

u personally

[stone flax]

cherry

tho i had fun with asa

[digital temple]

Hi. I received my 80HE on friday and I'm really happy with how it sounds stock with the LekkerV2. The only thing I dont like is the spacebar. I heard that other stabilizer would help but I'm completely new to modding. Can someone recommend me some stabilizers to make it sound "deeper" like the other keys?

Or is there something else I can do to make it better

[stone flax]

what

what

[glacial wind]

no such thing for stabilizer. You want to google spacebar foam

[stone flax]

what

what

what

we have officially reached thocky stabilizers

[digital temple]

what what? :(

[kind helm]

thats just how he is :3 you chilling

[digital temple]

Someone told me in the 80HE channel. Sorry :((

[stone flax]

touch up on a little bit more lube, add dampening in the keycap or switch the spacebar entirely

[jaunty ruin]

1. spacebar foam + tape (painters tape is what pretty much everyone has been using)
2. lube ur stabilizers if they arent already

[stone flax]

ur good

i just got a bone to pick with thockers

[digital temple]

Are they not pre-lubed?

[jaunty ruin]

they should be, but its always better to hand lube

100% of cases hand lubing will be better than prelubed

[digital temple]

OK they I'm going to order a lube kit. Wanted to order the wrist rest anyway

Will this also help with the slight scratchy sound of the spacebar?

[kind helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxHb6CJc9V8 you can follow this guide

[stone flax]

scratchy?

lube and grease and tune

[jaunty ruin]

wait what kind of stabilizers does the 80he have?

[glacial wind]

stable ones

[jaunty ruin]

wow that helps!

😭

[split dagger]

anyone know where I can buy a black pc switch plate for my 60he besides off the wooting website bc it takes so long to ship

[digital temple]

Just again about the stabilisers. What are they good for then? Apparently many people don't like the standard stabilisers. I have read that the TX AP's are supposed to be much better?

[kind helm]

think he meant screw in or plate mount

[stone flax]

hypekeebs

[glacial wind]

many people don't like the standard stabilizers because they don't know anything and just buy whatever they saw in a video somewhere

[stone flax]

but tx ap thocks!!

[glacial wind]

similar to how you heard somewhere that tx ap is much better, that's the exact same reason a lot of other people also bought the tx ap or knight v2 or whatever else they bought

people just buy keyboard stuff because they don't know what it actually does and want to buy whatever they heard is good, but reality is 9/10 people don't need to change their stabs at all

[kind helm]

is there a reason why hypekeyboard is so expensive?

30 buckies

[stone flax]

Key oar

[stone flax]

knights really are better tho

immaculate

[split dagger]

thx bc the wooting website says 5-18 buisness days for shipping

[glacial wind]

the funniest thing though is that people end up having to grease/lube their new stabs anyway when they could have done that to their stock stabs and reached basically same result

[stone flax]

true

knights are just so nice feeling

god

and beautiful

mmmrrnhhggg

[split dagger]

could you please send a link I cant find the website idk why

[digital temple]

Ok then I definetly dont need them. Thanks for your help :)

[glacial wind]

start with spacebar foam and see how you feel after that

it's like a few dollars on aliexpress

[kind helm]

https://hypekeyboards.ca/collections/in-stock-1/products/wooting-60he-plates think he meant this one, not 100 sue though

[split dagger]

thx

[digital temple]

I saw some from KBDfans. I think I will order them

[kind helm]

just clean the existing lube on stab with paper towel, then redo it with the video as a guide

[jaunty ruin]

guys should i lube my 60he after a year of use? i have the time to do so right now but if its not rlly worth then lmk

[kind helm]

why? lube what?

[jaunty ruin]

oh sorry

lube my switches

i never did it in the first place since my 60he came with alot of lube (or so i thought) back then

and as for why, i want the best possible feeling keyboard with the products i bought back when i ordered this keyboard

[kind helm]

if you don't feel any difference from before to now, there is no point. and typically there is no need to do that for switch

[jaunty ruin]

its been too long

[split dagger]

my case option isnt on there should i just press standard bc it fits fine in the case i have now

[kind helm]

i mean, is there something you dislike about it now you just got bored

[kind helm]

i think so, i never brought from here before. i brought the pc plate with my wooting i think.

[split dagger]

oh alr

also dose wooting use screw in or plate mount stabilizers bc I have no clue

[kind helm]

the additional option in there is a different case call frog mini that uses a different type of mounting so the plate needs to be different to attach stuff

[split dagger]

oh alr

[kind helm]

did you get the module or the 60 with the dog s44t plastic case?

[split dagger]

i got the one with the case, keycaps, switches

but i changed out all of that junk

[kind helm]

Stabilizer cutout you should make sure to choose plate mount then

[split dagger]

alr

[jaunty ruin]

i think ill just do it tmr when i wake up i cba rn now that i think abt it

[stone flax]

what case

[kind helm]

its gonna make you suffer for multiple hours

[stone flax]

it could use both but now u gotta make a choice

ur current stabs are screwins

[kind helm]

and if you fck up you can end up with something that is worse than before :3

not discouraging you but just letting you know

[split dagger]

tofu60 redux

[stone flax]

standard

[split dagger]

yea

[stone flax]

standard plate

[split dagger]

im so sick of seeing the white plate between my keycaps lol bc I have a black case and darker keycaps

[marsh saffron]

Black plate >>>>>

[split dagger]

fr fr it will look so much better

[kind helm]

yep, got the white plate too, fckin hated it

[marsh saffron]

I'm so glad I chose black PC plate over white

[digital temple]

Is there a specific lube you would recommend for the stabilizers? Just the one from the wooting store?

[muted sapphire]

lmao

[glacial wind]

that one works fine. I use xht-bdz for just the wire sections personally, but that's personal preference

[muted sapphire]

the one from the wooting store has both grease and krytox

[marsh saffron]

205g0 and dielectric grease

[gray vapor]

How are the 80HE stabs? I will be using ttc magneto switches (closed bottom). Do I need to get long pole (probably TX AP) stabs? Or fine with stock?

[muted sapphire]

many people told me they are fine

but idk

[glacial wind]

generally fine. I wouldn't worry about it unless you run into the issue

[gray vapor]

Sounds good. Board arrives this week or next, will try stock then get new ones if they are not good

I thought I had read that they upgraded the stock stabilizers from the original 60he but wasn't sure

[glacial wind]

yeah you get screw in stabs now with 80he and 60he+ (module)

the og 60he was plate mount stabs with no option for screw in

[muted sapphire]

true

no need to fix stuff that u don't even know is broken

[gray vapor]

💯

[stone flax]

this doesnt make sense

wdym not good

u dont need to replace the whole stab if problems arise

just get spacers

have yet to see someone get really bad see sawing yet

3.4-3.5 isnt even that extreme

[kind helm]

spacer hella expensive

thats 5 buckies

[stone flax]

u just got 36 long pole stabilizers for 5 bucks

[kind helm]

na math

[stone flax]

wut

[kind helm]

actually i agree with your point still even though 5 buckies is really on the expensive side imo

brought it because typeplus didn't have long pole version for me

[glacial wind]

Nothing compared to the $12 people are spending in Korea to be eligible to buy the limited gong cha $2 bubble tea keychain

I’ve had 3 friends now who went solo and bought 3 bubble teas for just themselves to meet the minimum spend to get the keychain lol

[uneven cradle]

Gotta get that keychain🧋

[glacial wind]

They are quite neat I’ll admit. The bubbles inside move around

[gray vapor]

If the stock stabilizers are just overall not good sounding, then I would be inclined to change them out for nice ones. But I'll try the new stock ones and see

[stone flax]

Stock stabs are fine giving tuning, why buy new stabs if youll end up needing to tune just the same?

[kind helm]

the thing you need to do to make it good is the same thing you need to do if you get a new one

you skip relubing with new one, but that is a step that takes less than 3 min

worth 15+ dollars for stab then maybe 5+ for shipping? i think not

[gray vapor]

My original wooting 60he plate mounted stabs aren't that nice, but I have seen many recommendations in general for AP stabilizers so that is why I was considering them

[uneven cradle]

Well I told my missus and guess where we're going when the matcha one comes around

[stone flax]

old plate mounts and current screw ins are different in and of themselves, no?

[glacial wind]

I still have yet to find a use for mine since I don’t drive in Korea and housekeys aren’t a thing here. But it looks cool at least

[stone flax]

and im sure given lube/grease and balancing your old place mounts couldve sounded fine

[kind helm]

plus the wooting plate mount is actually pretty tight with the plate. you don't even need to tape it to improve that

[glacial wind]

They been going viral all over Korean social media since it’s first time it’s hit Korea

[stone flax]

drink it

:<

[muted sapphire]

perfect thocc

[muted sapphire]

unlucky 😭😭

[gleaming crow]

What are these

[muted sapphire]

putty

[tropic urchin]

Gateron colored keychain

[gleaming crow]

What do u use that for

[muted sapphire]

spacebar "foam"

and I'll fill some other keycaps i think

prolly the stabilised ones

[gleaming crow]

Ahhh I see what ur saying

[stone flax]

😭

[muted sapphire]

OOOOOOO

it's a great idea

w the 100g springs

[stone flax]

skibidithock

[kind helm]

thats a real thocker

[muted sapphire]

I'm gonna achieve those marbly sounds 🤤🤤🤤

[tropic urchin]

Did someone say marbly 👀

[muted sapphire]

(i will have to clean the keycaps from that shit) 😭😭😭

man I'm gonna have the heaviest backspace on earth

ceramic keycap filled w all that shit hajahag

[knotty iron]

i bought a lot of stuff from Geon while buying their Raw HEs

so i also bought stem spacers and other tools

[muted sapphire]

uu the stem spacers

i probably won't need them but i regret not buying them

[spice plover]

Anyone here know or use any switch with a “soft or softest bottom out feel?” My fingers are hurting from these Geon HEs and I don’t care about sound quality anymore would really appreciate any help on this.

[fallen echo]

what Geon HEs are you using?

[spice plover]

RAW HEs

[fallen echo]

and the springs? 40, 50, 60?

[spice plover]

70g tried 60 and 80 as well. I can type fine on the stock switches the wooting comes with. No offense RAWs sound good but I promise they will cause pain in the long run idk:

[fallen echo]

these sound rather on the heavy end. Usually people recommend 50g as a nice middle of the road between resistance and springiness

maybe consider buying a pack of 52g springs and replace the ones in your switches with these?

cheaper than buying whole switches

[spice plover]

I started with 50s mb I forgot to mention

[fallen echo]

then 40s

I dont think you will get much lower than those

[spice plover]

No offense bro Raw switches are good for people that don’t really type a lot and just want to “flex” sound

I’ve typed my entire life coding from 13 never experienced pain till 3 months with these RAWs in

[kind helm]

how do you think raw can cause this pain?

are they cursed with korean voodoo magic?

[fallen echo]

uhm. all HE switches are basically linear. so the typing experience is only affected by the spring resistance

[polar girder]

Yeah go lighter spring weight

Fixed my typing pain

[fallen echo]

also I am not sure there are any lighter non-linear switches.

[spice plover]

Idk maybe the actuation distance 🤷‍♀️ idc what anyone says I have a board with stock lekkar 60s tofu and no pain the second i use the RAW pain slowly starts

[fallen echo]

then stick to lekkers?

[glacial wind]

I’m confused. How are geon raw he the cause of your pain?

[spice plover]

Idk maybe the actuation distance messes with my natural typing

[kind helm]

raw is not the first long pole

[fallen echo]

if you have a tofu, that means we can exclude the typing angle.

[kind helm]

spring is too heavy is the only thing that i can think of

[glacial wind]

At this stage the majority of all the newer switches have that actuation distance and 4mm is actually the rare one - but I’m not sure how it can lead to physical pain either

[fallen echo]

maybe create two different profiles on top, with different actuation depths. I did that too, with 2mm actuation for regular typing and 1.2mm for gaming

[spice plover]

Are the RAW long pole ? I don’t remember. And guys I’ve literally tried 50-80G springs

[fallen echo]

then 40g would be the next logical step. definitely cheaper than buying new switches

and it does not really get any lighter

[spice plover]

It’s not the springs that RAW is cursed or something to make that sound

[glacial wind]

Yeah they are in distance, but so are literally almost all the current gen of switches

[stone flax]

@spice plover idk why people are clueless to you talking

its not spring weight or distance

its the fact theyre not rbo

like most traditional linears

bottom out will definitely be harsher

[spice plover]

Rbo?

[stone flax]

Regardless of the weight

or travel

If you bottom out raws will always feel more emphatic

[stone flax]

bottoming out by rails hitting the bottom

raws bottom out on pole

aka

the stiffness ur feeling

[muted sapphire]

i got the 40s

@fallen echo

[stone flax]

the spring weight wont change the harshness in bottom out

it will still feel that way

just that u bottom out heavier or lighter

[spice plover]

Jesus fucking Christ @stone flax help me find the softest bottom out switch that are good for gaming and typing still for an ape like me. Fuck these cheap RAW switches they are garbage

[stone flax]

just opt for open bottoms again

[muted sapphire]

lmao

[stone flax]

Also theyre not garbage its literally just a preference thing

[muted sapphire]

what's wrong with the raws

[stone flax]

he doesnt like pbo

which is understandable

[glacial wind]

This is the most weird conversation ever honestly

[fallen echo]

dude, if he is experiencing pain by bottoming out then the issue is his hands and not the switches. no normal human hands develop such strain just because the bottoming out is on a different part of the switch.

[stone flax]

its not the same exact thing happens in mx

[kind helm]

how open bottom helps? you still "hit" something to stop

[stone flax]

it just doesnt carry over for he for some reason as a concept

[glacial wind]

No I mean the actual conversation itself

Not the topic

[stone flax]

it literally is a harsher bottom out

[stone flax]

they bottom out on the rails snagging on the bottom housing rather than the direct stem pole striking the housing instead

its less of a strong and abrupt stop and more like the stem got caught in something

would be an apt way to describe the different

[glacial wind]

Like if folks could just communicate properly this would be so much less confusing to follow

[stone flax]

idk

i went off

and came back to people prescribing a different spring?

like thats not how this works

[stone flax]

false but wtv

[glossy pagoda]

I have not read back through this conversation but I so no reason to believe that a switch bottoming out on the rails would be any different from bottoming out on the stem qua feel

[stone flax]

it very much does

[kind helm]

but lighter spring does help, no?

[stone flax]

same essence as long poles before they made full travels that pbo

again

its a very real concept in mx

[spice plover]

Anyone that recommends the RAWs and is telling me it’s just my issue and some bullshit is the exact people you shouldn’t listen to.

[muted sapphire]

'what's that

[spice plover]

MJ a real one

[stone flax]

that somehow doesnt ever get mentioned in he

[glacial wind]

The real question is what switches does gothikx have this issue with and which does he not beyond lekker

[glossy pagoda]

Can you explain to me why stopping on surface A is different from stopping on surface B? If the change in velocity from "in motion" to "not in motion" is the same, then there is no difference

[kind helm]

yet most people who use it have no problem with it, you gonna tell me no one else does as much typing as you do?

[fallen echo]

the only physical strain that you experience typing is having to overcome the springs. if you experience pain by bottoming out then something is off with your hands. given the fact that @spice plover went ever harder with the springs was what led to recommending easing off on that approach by going lighter.

[glossy pagoda]

The only reason why this would be the case is if the velocity doesn't change as quickly; eg if there is some give in the rails that reduces the rate of it stopping

[kind helm]

thats what i thought too

[spice plover]

Literally all of you guys except @stone flax said the same thing “springs” and then Mj comes and dunks on everyone….

[glacial wind]

no one can talk and figure this out because gothikx is busy yelling at everyone in anger over his switch issue and mj is doing his aggressive answering thing and the whole conversation is a mess lol

[glossy pagoda]

Moreover, the additional flex offered by a gasket mounted keyboard does impact the change in velocity, and would have an order of magnitude more effect than any hundredth of a millimeter of compression distance that you're suggesting exists in the switch construction

[spice plover]

Literally recommending a switch that sounds “ThOcKiER” but causes pain in the long run niceeeeee watch more people in the next months will be having issues cause of all the 🐑 giving free advertisement for those 🗑️ switches

[uneven cradle]

Also the raws are open bottom so

[glacial wind]

No one is recommending you raw he because it’s thockier

[kind helm]

not open like lekker :3

[polar girder]

lol raw = thock said no one ever.

[stone flax]

Physically bottoming out on a the stem is louder and harsher this has been a concept since early mx longpoles years ago

[polar girder]

[fallen echo]

why do I think somebody is just trying to cause some pointless drama?

[glacial wind]

I get you’re frustrated over your raw he switch but why are you coming in here and being agggressive with everyone gothikx

[stone flax]

its random yap but wtv

[glossy pagoda]

Changes the sound profile, sure. Changing the feel, specifically having any measurable impact on the ergonomics experienced at the end of keypress? I'm calling bullshit on that.

[kind helm]

is there a image of the inside of the bottom housing you can show?

[stone flax]

its a difference in the final impact of the bottom out, to be more specific, Stem pole bottom out feels like you can clearly feel when you touch the bottom, rail-bottom out feels like you're traveling towards the bottom, but there's a slight catching feeling, almost like the stem bumps into something on the way

stem manufacturing plays a lot in feel

youd be surprised

it has reached the extent in mx that having a rounded or flat pole affects the granularity of softnesses

[glossy pagoda]

It seems to me like you're trying to argue that a pound of feathers weighs less than a pound of bricks

[stone flax]

????????

[fallen echo]

I can see that it feels differently. but having an impact to the point of causing pain? that sounds cooked.

[glacial wind]

I know why mj does it because he does it to everyone, but I’m confused why gothikx is so angry at folks just trying to find answers to a fairly rare issue

[glossy pagoda]

If the switch stops fully and completely at the moment of end of press, then the construction makes 0 impact

[fallen echo]

read profile.

[stone flax]

@spice plover if u want to take these peoples word for it, get a lighter spring and see what happens (it will still feel harsh but wtv), if u want to take my word try an open bottom rbo again like black knights or lekker v2’s

im just reading sm copium

[glossy pagoda]

Strain that a person can feel when typing for extended periods on a keyboard that does not flex is legitimate, and was a driving force in our decision to go with a gasket mount construction for the 80HE

But to suggest that a specific switch bottoms out "differently" without providing any empirical evidence to support this is just inventing things

[glacial wind]

For the record I have no idea if it is springs or bottom out or what else, but I haven’t see anything that says it’s definitely any of the answers given

[fallen echo]

well, the logical proposition would be to change the mounting method and maybe try a burgermount, to introduce some general flex?

[glossy pagoda]

If a switch has some measure of built-in pad that softens the landing at end-of-keypress, then yes this would lead to a softer feel

But that's not what's being discussed here

[glacial wind]

If he’s not having the issue with lekkers then he can just swap back to lekkers and see if it goes away permanently or not

[kind helm]

also he mentioned that he never had such issue before, and i doubt he was using rail bottom out switch before

[glacial wind]

seems like a ‘why not experiment and see what works’ since there’s no definitive answer here yet given the little amount of info he’s given

[fallen echo]

I say burgermount. remove the module from the case, add some o-rings to the mounting points and screw back in. that should already help a bit with the "harshness" of bottoming out. its of course a hack compared to proper gaskets

[spice plover]

Why would I listen to anyone when the actual Switch goat is here…. Literally everyone here just regurgitates what other people says. I’m not super mad but am upset… like literally in a Modding discord and only one person is actually worth listening to it’s fucking crazy.

[kind helm]

also i dont understand how spring is copium when it make sense that you use heavier spring -> you need more force -> easy to get tired -> possible pain

[spice plover]

And are these the softest or can I even go silent switches idc at all about sound at this point I just don’t want my pain any worse.

[glossy pagoda]

The difference here is that spring fatigue and end-of-press stiffness fatigue are not the same

[stone flax]

let me ask something, when a smaller surface area placed more center on the switch (pole) bottoms out does it give the same sensation as the dissipated force on two wider areas (rails)

[polar girder]

Yeah lighter spring helped me. That’s all I know lol

[kind helm]

did he say the bottom out is what is causing his pain? i didn't notice. chat is going hella fast i am just laying back on my chair

[glossy pagoda]

I want you to know that I have RSI in my fingers and after a long day of typing can acutely feel the bottom out. I will be picking up a friction fit pad for my 60HE because the tray mount construction does negatively impact my typing experience during long sessions

[glossy pagoda]

The only thing that changes how one's finger perceives the end of key press, is how rapidly the velocity changes from moving to not moving. It doesn't matter if it stops on needle top or a flat top

[kind helm]

you can also grab some foam tape for the standoffs, maybe not much softer but it would help

[stone flax]

so long poles dont feel different to full travel cherry?

[glossy pagoda]

Not the end of key press feeling, no.

[kind helm]

i did something like this to go with the friction mount

[glossy pagoda]

This is defined entirely by whether or not there is flex in the keyboard construction

[kind helm]

👀 also crazy idea, maybe just don't spam the keys that hard?

[spice plover]

I’m gonna look into that friction pad now. Guessing you had the RAW HEs in for longer than me 😔. Going to be home in 20 minutes @stone flax if we can chat for a few minutes I would greatly appreciate it.

[glossy pagoda]

I've never used the RAW switches other than a few taps to hear them in person

[spice plover]

Yeah it always starts with a few taps… now look at you.

[glossy pagoda]

😅

[spice plover]

Can’t wait to see all these RAW HE lovers in a year or 2 with the same issues as me now.

[glossy pagoda]

The friction fit pad will be included with all of the Optimum cases getting sold tomorrow, I assume (but don't know for sure) that sales for that product will begin at the same time

[kind helm]

i love how much you believe in that s44t, this is like meeting one of those people who believe the earth is flat

[glacial wind]

whether it’s the raw he or not I think you’re kind of missing the point of both sides of advice given to you lol

[spice plover]

I’ll check it out I need to make sure I get it all

[calm pulsar]

lol I've been on closed bottom switches for almost a year now, what are you talking about

what issues

[kind helm]

nah watch out bro you are cursed

geon is the devil

[fallen echo]

either somebody has undiagnosed RSI or the weakest digits

[glossy pagoda]

These kinds of statements help nobody

[kind helm]

sorry sir didn't know its that serious

[glossy pagoda]

There's room for a little bit of poking fun and some light trolling, but not when things get heated

[kind helm]

i can never understand how discord chat would get heated but you right

[uneven cradle]

You'd be suprised

[kind helm]

mods have seen the dark side

[glossy pagoda]

He's a little under the weather

[calm pulsar]

oh nice gratz @uneven cradle

https://tenor.com/view/green-man-green-costume-green-suit-skin-suit-green-skin-suit-gif-12762243

[glacial wind]

Green is a demotion. Orange is a superior color

[spice plover]

I’m not fighting or arguing with anybody. Just please next time you 2WPM Andy’s that only type for TikTok’s think twice about recommending some shilled out switches.

[calm pulsar]

da hell you've been typing this message for like 10 minutes

[kind helm]

do you know what rail bottom out switch is? i have been looking for that for about 10min i still can't find a picture of its inside

[calm pulsar]

raws are one of the best switches for HE out there, in terms of quality (less rattle)
if you prefer open bottoms just get lekkers or black knights

calling raws shilled out is crazy

[kind helm]

finger hurting from using raw switch

[calm pulsar]

😭

[kind helm]

asked for advice, people told him to go with lighter spring

which according to mj is copium

and he recommended rail bottom out switch instead

[calm pulsar]

any open bottom switch I assume

[kind helm]

i am not sure if he knows. he say 60 70 80 he tried

raw comes in 40 50 60

[calm pulsar]

as in bottom out on rails instead of the central part of the stem

[kind helm]

oh wait yea i am stupid i think mj did mention that

🤡

its fair to say a product is causing a problem, but i dont think its fair to say its s44t product just because it doesn't fit with you specifically

[polar girder]

Quit insulting people, bozo

Weak fingers over here just out here blaming everyone else for having a good time.

[kind helm]

exactly :V

[calm pulsar]

I mean if you don't like the sensation of closed bottom switch get lekkers or black knights
but if it's to the point where your fingers hurt it sounds like a whole different issue lol

drink your milk maybe

[polar girder]

https://tenor.com/view/cccv-he-needs-some-milk-gif-14909430

[kind helm]

how come i get warning and you guys dont

MAN

[slow veldt]

maybe he jams his fingers into the keys when he types

thats why it hurts

:v

[jade storm]

@stone flax is that true?

woah pal

[spice plover]

lol all the 🐑 got out the barn. I legit hope even one person learns who the real “Bozos” are.

[slow veldt]

woah

[calm pulsar]

daym

[spice plover]

G pro x 2

[stone flax]

what

[calm pulsar]

nothin

[spice plover]

Chill MJ the only knowledgeable person.

If he’s gone this farm is coooooked

[glossy pagoda]

Oi, uncalled for.

Time outs are flying starting now, drop this petty name calling and move on

[calm pulsar]

nah mj is straightforward but gives good advice, this is coming from someone who's done various dumb modding things to my board

[fluid ravine]

I agree
Dont got hate for the man, I see what everyone means on how he replies abt sm stuff but he do be speaking

[glossy pagoda]

Now everybody has had time to read my message, so any further arguments relating to the topic will be met with timeouts

[fluid ravine]

🫶

[fluid ravine]

I was never here...

[muted sapphire]

lmao what's going on

[kind helm]

lets just not talk about it

:3 so we can still hang around despite ...

[spice plover]

I’m trying to find out about it this optimum case. Is it meant for a more comfortable typing experience?

[glossy pagoda]

Not the case, but the mounting method. More details will come tomorrow when it launches

[kind helm]

based on some image mr turkeyson showed earlier the day, isn't it just tray mount

[glossy pagoda]

The friction fit pad will be able to be used with Alumaze as well, and as far as I know the stock 60HE plastic case too

[fallen echo]

on another note, I might be sounding like a broken record but I ordered a batch of TTC POMs and TTC uranus and I am curious how they compare to GEONs

[fluid ravine]

Not a crazy question I think but does the optimum cus have case posts?

[glossy pagoda]

Can be installed as tray mount, but will include a friction fit pad

[glossy pagoda]

Yes but they are removable

Yes

[knotty iron]

hi

[fluid ravine]

Oh that's new

[kind helm]

thats W

[fluid ravine]

What about the standoffs?

Those 2 things are the only things I need to know about the case lol

[uneven cradle]

Me and a few others

[fluid ravine]

Our deer friend (^o^)人(^o^)

[marsh saffron]

If you guys had a white version id buy

[glossy pagoda]

Though with any case that doesn't have a grounding foam pad on the USB should have at least one standoff installed so that there is a connection between the PCBA, through the USB port, cable, computer, and power cable plugged into a grounded line

Yes

[kind helm]

your current case got "character" though you gonna get something new?

[spice plover]

For the fitpad anyway you can show me how to get or make one?

[fluid ravine]

It's pretty beat up but that's what it gives it the special character

[uneven cradle]

Thanks

[glossy pagoda]

We'll have a Youtube video on how to install it

[fluid ravine]

If I get another case I will spray paint it or smth

[spice plover]

So it’s available to be bought tomorrow?

[fluid ravine]

Honestly doing these unspeakable things to my case breaks my heart sometimes since it came from Pops himself

[glossy pagoda]

The Optimum case will be, I believe that the friction pad will also be available as a separate purchase then but don't know that for 100%

[kind helm]

if the optimum has all of the standoffs to be removable and have a decent weight then its gonna be pretty good

[glossy pagoda]

If not tomorrow as stand-alone then soon

[fallen echo]

ugh. I just ordered a meteorite grey tofux. now you are assaulting my wallet again xD

[fluid ravine]

Volunteer was just phase Mom!

[kind helm]

👀 if its less than 150 then i think the alumeh is even more meh than it is right now due to the better option sound wise

[kind helm]

time to return it :3

[fallen echo]

nah, I will keep it for a build for my gf

[glossy pagoda]

*Alumazing >_>

[fallen echo]

she saw my keeb and got jelly.

[kind helm]

:3

[knotty iron]

can we use the friction fit with the 60HE+ module with screw in stabs on the alumaze (the one provided with the optimum case)

[fluid ravine]

Respectfully only didn't like the case cus of how things the case was made or wtv so it was a but pingy for my taste but I do like the way it looks

Just my opinions

[glossy pagoda]

It's unlimited as long as people keep buying it

[fluid ravine]

I have a feeling it should be possible

[fallen echo]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-and-take-my-money-gif-13250127

[spice plover]

As long as it’s not a fit RAW case I want it for health reasons. Anyway you can sell me yours? moneys not an issue.

[glossy pagoda]

I don't have a friction pad

Though I will be getting one

[sweet oak]

And then ill eat it

[kind helm]

i mean you can probably still mod it to a point that it sounds good. right now in my mind, some weight at the bottom for the hollowness, then with foam on the standoffs + friction mount to be a softer typing experience.

[sweet oak]

Yummy

[glossy pagoda]

In fact I should make a note for myself to place an order before they go live 😛

[kind helm]

its just not as elegant on the inside

[glossy pagoda]

Don't want all them Optimum folks snagging them all before I can

All will be revealed in due time 🧘‍♂️

No

Unless your today is already tomorrow

[sweet oak]

Time traveler!

[glossy pagoda]

Or, tomorrow is today?

[untold wigeon]

@glossy pagoda do you have a production count you can reveal?

[glossy pagoda]

I have a count, but that's internal info

[fallen echo]

at this point please just meet me last thursday with my upcoming order. kthxbye

[glossy pagoda]

I did, but where were you?

[fallen echo]

got stuck. where I went, we didnt need no streets

[calm pulsar]

its tomorrow already for me

[glossy pagoda]

Then today

[sweet oak]

I wonder how the optimum collab stuff will taste

[glossy pagoda]

Unless by the time it's today, then it's again tomorrow for you

Time is a ball of wibbly wobbly timey wimey, so will do

[thorn zealot]

what did i miss in this channel

heard some abt it getting heated

[sweet oak]

Yeah mark was starting the bbq for some steak

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-ralph-bart-twins-they-taste-like-burning-gif-16522200

[fallen echo]

the only thing heated is my collar, being way too excited for an upcoming release

[thorn zealot]

love it

i really do

[glossy pagoda]

Anyway, my plan to make tomorrow today is to time travel from one side of my pillow to the other

Behave while I'm gone, retroactive timeouts are much, much longer

[harsh dove]

I’ll take it from here Mark

[glossy pagoda]

[harsh dove]

Enjoy time traveling

[sweet oak]

Be the first to make time traveling steak

[spice plover]

First thing I’m doing with time travel is not buying RAW HEs that’s for sure 👍

[kind helm]

👀 the purple dark lord and their green goblin minions very respectfully

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/clash-goblin-dance-neon-gif-5776615697694749508

[thorn zealot]

what was ur issue with them

[calm pulsar]

hmm what color is 60he pro role going to be

[spice plover]

Just wanted to make a quick joke just scroll up I don’t wanna get banned

[kind helm]

maybe like a deeper orange

[thorn zealot]

i saw like the last half of ur conversation

[fluid ravine]

Hey CAM miss you man

[thorn zealot]

im not scrolling like 300 msgs

[harsh dove]

Turkeyson

[fluid ravine]

IT'S JUST A PHASE

[harsh dove]

lol

[fluid ravine]

[calm pulsar]

did you go to Turkey for a vacation or smth

[spice plover]

Just basically bottom out pain from the design of them

[harsh dove]

Any new stuff I should know about

[fluid ravine]

im here to EAT

[fluid ravine]

like any releases or....

[harsh dove]

Sure

[spice plover]

Need the most comfortable open bottom switches which MJ recommended some and will look at it now

[fluid ravine]

or the things i did

[spice plover]

@stone flax

[harsh dove]

Both

[stone flax]

try black knights

can even use them for frankswitching

[thorn zealot]

yeah idk how to help u my guy

[fluid ravine]

ima start off with the things i did cus first thing i could remember
I found some poron adhesive strips and cut them to size and placed them on my posts and pcb to use it like a gasket mount while also still using friction mount. In return i took out the polyfill so my board is using 0 foam.

[stone flax]

where you preserve the bottom housing

[thorn zealot]

mj ur man

[kind helm]

AND ITS BEAUTIFUL

[fluid ravine]

lmao

[calm pulsar]

raw x black knight open bottom franken is probably the best open bottom out there

[fluid ravine]

it's works pretty well surprisngly

[harsh dove]

Oh not a bad idea, that sounds cool

[fluid ravine]

and uh i totally didnt switch tape modded some raws...

wait who said that

cus i didnt

[harsh dove]

How’d that go lol

[fluid ravine]

!!!

[kind helm]

nah high schooler got way too much time

[calm pulsar]

the tapeson

[kind helm]

how tf

[spice plover]

I remember people frank switching. What is that and if it’s good can I just buy it done already?

[fluid ravine]

honestly not bad, could be better if i had lube, it dampened the top out but it aint bad at all.

[thorn zealot]

sauce me the tech

[fluid ravine]

i only used the STM raws in my modifiers

and my spacebar sounds a lot better esp since yknow my stabs are fked with no lube

bone dry stock lmfao

[fluid ravine]

HAHA

you should see me in my prime

8th-freshman year

[sweet oak]

[fluid ravine]

@harsh dove

[stone flax]

mixing componenets of multiple switches to carry over the aspects you want from boths

a noteworthy one for you might be mixing raws and black knights

[spice plover]

What would be good like I literally don’t care if I burn all my RAWs

[fluid ravine]

So wsp with you have you done anything while you were "gone" for a bit

[thorn zealot]

so where can i cop these poron strips

[fluid ravine]

sadly i dont know

these strips i found came from my monitor arm

[stone flax]

@calm pulsar whats the black knight raw open bottom franken recipe

[thorn zealot]

tell me what is it

[fluid ravine]

ah shi alr

gimme a min

[kind helm]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H5948V4?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1 i got these, its not poron though

[fluid ravine]

ima find it

[stone flax]

kinda yeah

[spice plover]

@stone flax also do silent switches have additional cushioning as well?

[thorn zealot]

thank u

love it i really do

[calm pulsar]

BK bottom, BK stem, RAW top @spice plover

[stone flax]

depends on implementation

[kind helm]

think its slightly less soft than poron

[stone flax]

good bk stem and bottoms with raws for improved housing tolerances im guessing?

[calm pulsar]

yeah raw top improves tolerances by a ton for black knights

it's like theyre meant to be together

[stone flax]

the only ks20 “silent” that would be relevant for him is the gateron genty silents but those only have silencing pads on the top housing

aka

it wont help him

[calm pulsar]

waiittt I remember now Gothik is the guy who was asking about pillow switches lol

[stone flax]

@spice plover get black knights try em out and test the feel, then consider a top housing switch for wobble improvements

there

[spice plover]

Please tell me there’s some new ones but I’ll order the frankstejn now anyways

[harsh dove]

Very bouncy lol

[fluid ravine]

yeah surprisingly

[stone flax]

id let you know but not sure rn

theres two more gaterons coming out apparently

[kind helm]

you may need to stack this to get turkeyson's effect

[stone flax]

in next month or so

[thorn zealot]

Good enough is what I think

[fluid ravine]

no pcb raise as well

unlike someone

hehe

[kind helm]

[fluid ravine]

ahem- pochizo

[kind helm]

i took off the port so now its even

[spice plover]

Please if you find anything that would relate think of me I’ll tip the goat idc. I’ll just get dark knights for now and see how they feel and will they actually help with what I developed from the RAWs?

[fluid ravine]

oh yeah my oprt cutout huge af

[harsh dove]

Just modded the 80HE with some polyfill, nothing crazy. Waiting on my Protagonist and Optimum Cases

[fluid ravine]

so idk how it will be for yall

[fluid ravine]

excuse me cam

wdym

Case(s)

[kind helm]

tofu60 redux's port can be unscrewed so this is pretty nice

[fluid ravine]

spending moni irresponsibly i see

tsk tsk tsk

[harsh dove]

Well protagonist is a keyboard , optimum case is just a case

[stone flax]

do you currently have lekkers or anything

i wanna test something

[fluid ravine]

ok you got me there

lmfao

FUK

[thorn zealot]

What’s going on with this friction pad thing with the optimum case

Don’t tell me it’s just a silicon sandwich pad

But yk

[fluid ravine]

it is

LMAO

[harsh dove]

It is basically

[thorn zealot]

Really dude

[kind helm]

i personally think friction pad is kinda L compare to gummy oring

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[calm pulsar]

I thought it was just friction pad or smth

[kind helm]

unless gummy oring doesn't fit with the screw in

[fluid ravine]

honestly

[harsh dove]

It’s basically a gummy oring friction pad

[fluid ravine]

i think this friction pad should benefit for screw in stabs user

it's just a theory

[calm pulsar]

yeah but it's not the same as silicon pad for the plate? or is it two combined??

[kind helm]

its worse than gummy oring since you are "forced" to use the silicone

[fluid ravine]

idk what the cut out looks like

[spice plover]

Yeah I have a few

[fluid ravine]

well

here's the thing

[harsh dove]

It should achieve the same or similar results as gummy o ring

[thorn zealot]

I didn’t want a glorified silicon pad

[fluid ravine]

Yknow the nipple case @kind helm

[stone flax]

i want to test a couple things if ur free let me know

[fluid ravine]

?

[kind helm]

yea

[fluid ravine]

the KBDfans 461E

[kind helm]

i was there when you first called that a nipple case

[fluid ravine]

yknow how it has a silicone pad cutout

where the outer layer is used for the mounting system

[spice plover]

Sure

[fluid ravine]

while the middle is optional?

you can technically do that for the friction pad

[stone flax]

did u feel this same feeling of pain when u were on lekkers?

[kind helm]

that i didn't know, i didn't look into that case because of the look

[fluid ravine]

and i believe you can do it for the 80he

[spice plover]

Nope

[fluid ravine]

I told Sander about this

[stone flax]

what weights are ur lekkers and ur raws

[sweet oak]

80he tech?

[fluid ravine]

he said he'll try it at some point

but idk if has done it yet

[fluid ravine]

it should 100% a 80HE tech

[sweet oak]

Might have to invest

[fluid ravine]

if i had the 80HE i would do the honors

[spice plover]

Let me find my extras but it was stock

[kind helm]

the 2 little gaps on the top?

i assume the bottom also has 2

[fluid ravine]

yeah that's for the tab gasket mount thingy the case uses

[calm pulsar]

hold Sander accountable😂

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

no being fr though i would gladly do it

[stone flax]

u have stock green/teal lekkers?

[calm pulsar]

honestly I would probably do it intentionally if I had an 80he

[stone flax]

that should be 60

Or 45 if yellow

[fluid ravine]

@kind helm

see that blue highlighted part?

you can use that optionally

and replace it with poron or use nothing

that's what i was implementing for the friction pad and 80he

[kind helm]

that is good

[sweet oak]

What if i eat the infinite space inbetween

[spice plover]

Yeah they are 60 lol

[fluid ravine]

you'd fit

but sure

[stone flax]

what weights are your raws

[spice plover]

Started at 52G and now 70G

[fluid ravine]

it smort lah

you maintain the mount while also changing the sound acoustic

[spice plover]

52G was way worse for me honestly I probably should have tossed them when I started having it flair then

[stone flax]

and u felt this pain in both weights?

[harsh dove]

461E actually sounds pretty good imo

[fluid ravine]

i still want it lmfao

[stone flax]

oh wow

[spice plover]

Waaaay less with 70g

[stone flax]

Huh weird

but everyone else told you to get lighter springs

[fluid ravine]

and im starting to understand how all this pinging bs and hollowness work

[calm pulsar]

with 70g you bottom out with less force so it makes sense

[stone flax]

almost as if…

heheh

[fluid ravine]

depending on the mount

[stone flax]

we know :p

[fluid ravine]

esp since after i placed the poron strips on the posts

i thought my board will ping like crazy without the polyfill

but it sounds perfectly fine without it

[spice plover]

I just got shilled really hard and good so I stuck with it tooooo long

What you wanna test btw MJ

[harsh dove]

Yeah and case weight/thickness

[spice plover]

Cause I realized my bro has all the switches since I gave him my spare wooting

[fluid ravine]

that too

[kind helm]

that actually raises a new question, do we have to do it ourselves or they made this modular

[fluid ravine]

NIPPOL CASEEEEEEEE

[kind helm]

i would be impressed if they have this modular stock

[fluid ravine]

have to do it yourself

wait

[harsh dove]

It’s modular

[fluid ravine]

im lost in the question

my english isnt helping

[harsh dove]

Its precut in the center so you can remove the center silicone

[fluid ravine]

wiat are you talking about from the nipple case or the friction pad?

@kind helm

[harsh dove]

Think he was referring to the nipple case pad

[kind helm]

english not my first language either, and after playing with monkeytype, sometimes my muscle memory kicks in and type the wrong word

[kind helm]

the pad

[fluid ravine]

cus if you're talking about nipple case it's modular but if its the friction pad you have to cut it out yourself

[kind helm]

but the one by wooting

yee

[fluid ravine]

yeah you would have to cut it from what im seeing

unless wooting does make some adjustments and allow us to take out the middle section

[kind helm]

from eric stream i saw the pad its a whole piece

[fluid ravine]

which would be sick for us

[robust bluff]

hello, how do you turn wooting 60he with alumaze60 into thocky sound profile? im not like this current sound unfortunately LOL

[fluid ravine]

yeah that's what i saw as well

[calm pulsar]

I thought the wooting friction mount thing was easy to install

[fluid ravine]

it is

it's just like installing a pad

dude watch, someones gonna tray mount that shit with the pad

im gonna go cry in my corner

[calm pulsar]

lmao

[kind helm]

all good, preference

[sweet oak]

https://tenor.com/view/preference-glarses-mx-brown-cherry-mx-brown-keyboard-gif-21044520

[fluid ravine]

have i done a sound test with the new mount? @kind helm i dont remember

[fluid ravine]

man flip your preference! I want the best of the best!

[kind helm]

i dont think you did, but we did get to hear it for a bit when you were flexing the flex

[fluid ravine]

hmm

[thorn zealot]

Foam

[fluid ravine]

ok i will make one then

just know from my thoughts the board has a deeper tone in the bottom out without the polyfill

or with the new mount

[robust bluff]

i got it but my stock wooting case sounded much better, i have not done any tape mod yet tho

[stone flax]

you already answered it
people posited you were in pain because of spring weight and suggested you go down to 40g
you mentioned you didnt feel pain at 60g lekkers
you mentioned also that raws hurt less on 70g than 52g which goes against the idea that u got pain from spring weight fatigue
what would make sense for why you both felt less pain from 60 gram lekkers and heavier raws is that a) lekkers dont bottom out as harshly and b) the heavier weight raws made ur tendency in bottoming out quickly to happen less because the spring is heavier

which goes back to idea that its bottom out feel and not weight

[robust bluff]

Here is the sound of my wooting with stock case:

[stone flax]

so my advice is to try the franken black knights

or even stock bk’s just to test

[calm pulsar]

or just black knights themselves

[stone flax]

yep

[thorn zealot]

U got one with ur new case

[robust bluff]

And here is the sound of my wooting with alumaze

[spice plover]

Fuck it ordering them now’s

Wait out of stock fml

[robust bluff]

i mean i already did use it...

[kind helm]

alumeh being alumeh moment

sry preference!

[calm pulsar]

there are some on aliexpress, but they used to be hella cheaper
I guess they have become more expensive ever since they are out of stock on kprepublic

[robust bluff]

any suggestions how to improve this? lmao

[spice plover]

Damn is it trust worthy with aliexpress lol

[robust bluff]

[kind helm]

the foam tape thingy that turkeyson did would make this way less harsh sounding for lack of a better word

[spice plover]

It’s like 40$ for 100?

It’s cheap af wtf

[calm pulsar]

here's my bks from aliexpress
and I got so much stuff from there

[spice plover]

14 daysssss bro

[kind helm]

i think that depends on the shop too

[spice plover]

We ain’t gettting our fingers back with this one 😂

[calm pulsar]

cause im from russia lol, close to china

[calm pulsar]

yeah but there's still protection from aliexpress side

[robust bluff]

how many layers he did?

[kind helm]

us also 15 days

i got stab from kbdfan ae store

[kind helm]

i think you should try it out yourself, you can always add or remove

[calm pulsar]

@stray tiger new Venom beta finally allows to enable and disable capslock led

[robust bluff]

one more thing, did u guys change your stock stabilizers? does it have big diff?

im looking at Durock v3 platemounted stabilizers

[stray tiger]

Nice. I got the Iron160 plate today so good timing

[kind helm]

i did but i just did it because i like burning my money

not necessary

🤡

[fluid ravine]

@kind helm

[kind helm]

👀 can i see the inside

[fluid ravine]

yeah sure

[kind helm]

man i love this mod so much. thats a tray mount case that flex and have clean sound and no foam

thats some keybored level s44t

[kind helm]

what happened 0.0 !

[fluid ravine]

uh

dw abt it

[kind helm]

oh you have more standoffs on the top and bottom

[calm pulsar]

damn this is genuinely very simple and good

[kind helm]

exactly

[fluid ravine]

older people here knows me as a the tape mod kid

[kind helm]

took me like less than 3 min to do

[fluid ravine]

so now my pcb coating is literally ripping off

[harsh dove]

I thought Thanos snapped my life away

[fluid ravine]

i wasted 3 rolls of tape just for that bs

on the wooting

[fluid ravine]

bro got snapped away to get snapped back

[kind helm]

i skip the 4 on the side, 2 on top 2 at the bottom is all i did

[fluid ravine]

yeah that's good enough

idk why mines has more posts but sure ig

[fluid ravine]

thanks

i knew one day ill do it again

attempted it 3 times so far

third times the charm

[fallen echo]

https://tenor.com/view/big-keyboard-keyboard-gif-14295904415083005382

[fluid ravine]

first was with neoprene foam

was too soft

[fallen echo]

preference

[fluid ravine]

second was with shielf liners

didnt work

[kind helm]

thats the foam i am using currently

[fluid ravine]

neoprene?

oh i thought you had eva

[kind helm]

yea

[sweet oak]

When preference goes to far and it turns to GO BIG OR GO HOME

[fluid ravine]

oh i see

[robust bluff]

LOL

[kind helm]

👀 you know what kind of foam you are using? i thought you only had 1 option which is the left over monitor tape

[polar girder]

lol homie insults everyone multiple times but I say weak once and get timed out for an hour

ANYWAY

[kind helm]

i wanted to ask him that but i was enjoying the chat

[polar girder]

I don’t have the energy to put in my SW knight stabs

Too much work

[kind helm]

👀 just 30 minutes, put on some music and relax

[calm pulsar]

don't forget the force break too xd

but it's easy with stab stickers or something similar

[polar girder]

Electrical tape or what ?

[kind helm]

👀 for my old monsgeek force break i did 3 layers of painters tape, like 0.5cm squares next to where the screws go

not sure how that apply to frog

[calm pulsar]

there are diff material stickers that come with some stabs
I used some softer ones for the force break

[polar girder]

I mean I have couple TX AP sets (clip in and plate mount) and the SW Knight v2

[calm pulsar]

you can use pretty much anything, but these softer stickers worked better for me than tape, and it's way less effort

[polar girder]

Use the stickers for PCB on the case for force break?

[calm pulsar]

yeah

that's what I did

[polar girder]

Ok that’s interesting. Just cut them in half or something maybe

Ez

[calm pulsar]

yeah I cut them a bit so they don't pertrude from the case

(if that's a word in english language)

I meant protrude lol

[polar girder]

Lol yeah

Sweet thanks

That’s hella ez

I might not try diff plates until I get new switches then

And just do that stuff

[stone flax]

hewwo i shall nyow be a beacon of powsitivity

[polar girder]

Removing switches from plate is my least favorite thing with keyboards

So lame

[calm pulsar]

yeah it's the most effort doing that

[polar girder]

Unblocked

uWu

[stone flax]

:0

[stone flax]

;0;

[chilly mural]

UWU

[calm pulsar]

lol took me some time to realize its mj

[glacial wind]

I had a talk with him that maybe he could change the presentation of his advice a bit

unironically uwu persona got him unblocked by bigsly instantly

[calm pulsar]

lol yeah

[kind helm]

i loved that

[slow veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/peach-goma-rubbing-cheek-kiss-gif-9787127281969094766

[calm pulsar]

who's going to take lich king's place now

[slow veldt]

new mj is so cute :D

[kind helm]

old mj =

[glacial wind]

We’ll see if it sticks

[calm pulsar]

wow I got 1000 points on aliexpress for some reason