#🔧│keyboard_modding
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yea
cs when you have SOCD you are legit cheating, because counter strafe is so important in that game.
yeah its fair
I might try to do an MX build and see how it's for gaming
val is like people are still debating letting go/ counter strafe is better
HE is still nice with customizability and stuff
and rapid trigger is still a nice feature
I kinda want to make an mx board for work 
yeee
i have a mx board with gateronkaih silent brown and a ton of foam.
:3 plastic board i just carry around when i go to lab
I want giant metal case to beat someone with
But i think i‘m linear enjoyer now so i‘d probably go for some linears idk
if I do MX I might go for Geon Raptor Extreme Gaming lmao
so that it's still "gamer"
What do I do with the extra piece of foam that comes with the module
I already got the alumaze foam in
honestly i like linear and tactile equally
tactile gang rise up
Stash it away incase you spill a can of coke on your board and the foam gets all nasty or whatever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIlqBQM3lk8
the way he describe the sound got me into this switch
The first brown switch I like. Who knew such a thing was possible.
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lol it reminds me of topre
this is my tofu 65 2.0 with nk creams
this is my tofu 65 2.0 pc version with lychee milk tactiles
this one is a pc plate
this one is pom
the whole board costs me less than 75 i think
the whole board is less expensive than wooting's fucking pcb
damn its like you slap me on the face in the beginning
so loud
yeah i dont really like the sound on that tbh
oh yeah lol
liking this one more personally
my snaps were super loud on that one
who wants like 65 TTC kom HE switches?
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im hoping to achieve this
yeah i prefer it too
i do like typing on a tactile switch a little bit more than linear tho
hell nah
@opal umbra what about this one
yeah I miss tactility
nah pretty sure theyre fine, I just didnt like the sound tests lul
never had em
do you want them for free
i am typing on my tactile board right ow and it feels so exciting xD
i just switch between my boards based on how i feel
i ripped them out
yee i used to stuff a lot of foam and s44t to my board
damn there's so much stuff in MX world to try
on HE there's open bottom and closed bottom, that's it xd
this one is more higher pitched
does anyone have black knights
wdym by mx world
oh yeah this is the one I liked better
in an HE keyboard
like normal mech switches?
willing to send a sound test
yeah
oh yeah
i feel like "clack" works so well with he switch
i only use my wooting for gaming
magnetic switch is all on the higher pitch side
i will always prefer a mechanical switch just for typing
they should be similar to lekkers, maybe just cleaner sounding
unless they change how HE switches are
Okay so i should swap them for my TTC kom switches
also the most expensive one, the case alone costs more than those two other boards combine
I hope some day there will be no difference and even all the nerds like alexotos will be building HE boards lol
i need to try so hard for he board to sound good
mx you kinda just lube the stabs, get some decent switches, then you get something "good enough"
i just watched a building stream vid of him building my new board coming soon
he... them lekker v1.... them og jade
lol me too
fcking nightmares
which one you're getting again?
odin 75
there's also more mounting options
i saw keybored's vid on wooting and was like "oh shit is he gonna come up with some crazy mounting mod again"
oh it looks similar to 80he kinda
yeah whats sad is all the keyboard content creators never do good stuff for HE
I think the best builds are actually in this channel
yea
even alexotos, when he did an HE board, of all variables he chose holy60 and some gateron orange switch💀 💀
i think thockson's keeb is the peak of tofu redux for wooting rn
considering its not even tofu redux 😄
but yeah his board is great, I even prefer the look of his case
oh yeah its almost the same layout
its essentially the same shit, LOL alu box with some standoffs
only this is i will be able to use mechanical switches with it
waht kind of mounting you can do with that
damn if I got so many HE switches just to tailor the sound a little bit, what's gonna happen to me when I get an MX pcb
i see the mx boards nowadays can do multiple different type of mounting
W engineering work
let me check
nahh you brought it without knowing that
what's great about venom60he, is that you can use it in all the cool MX boards
I will be able to do proper gummy oring moung in luminkey lx 60
yea
it says leaf spring mount
like salv
i am still hopeful that sticky rice can do like a proper plateless
salv the og leaf spring but apparently poopy finishing on the case
I wonder how cosmos salvation will look irl
this one?
I dunno, is it this? https://salvun.com/products/salvation-x-cosmos
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me no like, looks hella messy
hello
also like key caps most of them would look clean, then with this case i feel like would be weird af

gmk cosmos might end up looking like this, just without alphas lol
Foam case that sounds great
mine is betta hehehe
not for the average gamer rager
I want a case made out of yellow kitchen sponge
i think you can probably do it
is that your board
yea
looks very nice

if this exists there is no reason you can't make a sponge case
keycaps too expensive
they should be cardboard too

This is my tofu 65 2.0
the kinda keycaps I wanted to get for my gf
i got it off of amazon
they looked really cute
makes my board kinda look like a typewriter tho
does tofu65 also have a ton of mounting styles?
it has 3 different ones
what are they called
thats nice
i need them
what the keycaps?
yeah
lemme find them
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these are the keycaps i got
2 cables for aesthetic 
oh yeah i use it for different boards
thing is i am gonna have a black board soon
i think i might use the pink wire for it
new deskmat, new cable, new mood
the blackpink reference
time to make a keyboard for my dog 😄
lowkey that is exactly why i think there IS a reason to try caps from amazon
i think bigger brands typically they don't go so crazy with the figures and patterns
whats the cheapest PCB i can get?
yeah the bigger brands are a lot more minimalist
https://kineticlabs.com/keycaps think this site's keycaps is very much your type
High quality PBT keycaps for your mechanical keyboards. Stock includes high quality, thick PBT with large kits compatible with most mechanical keyboard layouts.
i wouldve try something like this if i got the white case instead
seethrough keycaps arent really my thing tbh
ive been thinking about using an fr4 plate or pc plate on my new board
idk what to choose between the 2 tho
fr4 maybe more your type based on the ones you show
@calm pulsar still foamless in that latest sound test?
which one?
oh this one is my frankenswitch (but with gateron stem) in a freebird60 and fr4 plate, friction mounted
its an older build
and it had foams in it
poron for plate and either silicon or foam for the case
Oh yeah ima try my new board with no foams also
same
after trying it i really think if using a premium case, no foam is a must try
with foam a lot of stuff sound similar
Yeah foamed up boards all have a similar sound
I feel like I might have to use a little bit of foam
Cause the pcb on the board is gonna have flex cuts
Idk we will see when I build it
TRY IT
cause salvation has flex cut pcb as well and i think pretty much no one runs it with foam
I’m gonna try it first with no foam or tape
If I don’t like it I will tape up the flex cuts
Foam is the last resort
any tips for creating a creamy sounding keeb? thinking of using the following:
- Gateron milky yellow pro (lubed)
- FR4 plate
- case foam, pcb foam and switch plade foam (probalby all poron)
- gasket mounted keeb (thinking of buying an mode envoy)
creamy... foams... once you stuff all the foam in there, your nice mode envoy would sound like any budget alu board i think
maybe oil kings with plate foam
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taeha the goat did 4 sound tests. 2 no foam 2 with only plate foam
do you see
taeha also edits his soundtests
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didn't know about that, but what did he do? reduce hollowness of the recording or something to make the cases sound nicer?
afaik most of his sound tests are edited but what he does exactly depends on the specific one
whats the point? to drive up the sell of cases somehow?
to make it "more accurate"
ah yes fellow nicepbt enjoyer
yeah I notice that sometimes sound tests sound different from how they appear to me irl, so if taeha edits to make it similar to how he perceives it then its good
that actually kinda make sense
will still sound different
but its kinda fcked if the whole purposea portion of of the purpose of sound tests is to help users compare
I mean step 1 would be to even try to make the recording accurate
instead of editing it afterwards
who do you think is "good" nowadays
just curious :3
blacksimon has a solid setup
i go to keybored for KNOWLEDGE, and glarses for laugh, but honestly i don't actively follow anyone else
but even he says that they are not really representative outside of comparing them to each other
i think if the same setup is maintained, its meaningful to compare between sound tests made by the same channel
but yea between channels its not really meaning
How can one make a sound test sound as accurate as possible? How many factors are there? Recording mic, room acoustics, compression, headphones, is it even possible?
it's not possible
you also have to add table + deskmats
distance and direction between mic and keyboard
how the mic is mounted
found a somewhat frustrating thing about using wooting60he with salvation60 case. If the screws to the pcb are done lightly to avoid damaging the pcb, when plugging in the cable, the screw on the left side may loosen, causing the pcb to slide away from the center of the case. I can hold down the keys on the keyboard to make sure that the screw doesn't get loosen when plugging the cable, but the initial calibration of the switch would cause the keys to be "broken" for a brief moment. Not sure how the calibration works, but I did have one time when a key stopped working. Thought I broke the pcb during modding. 
i already have small marks on the pcb from doing the screws too tightly. I brought a electric screw driver just to make sure my precious pcb is well taken care off. Since I am not sure how the calibration works, currently if i want to switch keyboard, I just make sure to lift off the key press as soon as possible after the usb is plugged in.
actually... now i think about it, since screwing the pcb in to the case doesn't change the travel of the switch, i should just plug in the usb before doing that particular screw.
all screw holes have a grounding pad where the head is plus some spare area to be safe
thanks!
so if the solder resist under the screwhead gets worn its not the end of the world and if anything just grounds it better
My typical rule of thumb (no pun intended) is to finger tighten and then give it one extra half turn
whats better buy new stabs and do gummy oring mount or burger
There is no better, only preference
bricks the keyboard with an update

DONT YOU DARE PUT THAT EVIL ON ME SPOOK😭
what stabs do I need to get for graveshift gummy oring? or do the default from the module work fine?
you'll be the first one to get my keyboard video
nvm just read old messages
small graveshift for screw in stabs and medium for clip in stabs
Man I was flicking he nylon, PP and aluminum plate last night and PP had the lowest sound so I just left it in
Buddy wanted to play Warzone and I wa gonna swap stabs and try diff plates but I just put it back together and played some games instead lol
I feel like the BK switches just have too much noise so idgaf that much
Was gonna force break too but kind of forgot about it and realized I need electrical tape
Need a better black switch lol
Gl man
ty
geon Raw He and BK hybrid. This is the way if you want the full range of motion the BK’s have
Is this basically open bottom box stem raws
Just ordered these, their pretty good right?
they are indeed very nice
Okie dokie
And 90 is the right choice right?
For the 80he
Thank you for your support to the Church of Geon. 90 is the right choice for any 80He layout since you'll have ~4-6 spares
You had me worried there 😅
You like?
Which spring?
You’ll have some extras, but can’t hurt to have backups 🙂
Makes sense 
Ye, and I popped in 80g springs
Yep
Oreo box stems look like sander’s new cereal 👀
They are great. Slight wobble with no pressure applied to it, but once you have started the down stroke travel zero wobble
It’s great
very good!
For cerakeys or what
and you still have the Raw HE RGB benefits
Fk RGB
Because 
Yuppp
subjective
looks like my jade gaming will come in tomorrow. guess I'll spend the day relubing xD
@knotty iron kinda looks like the geon spring size
is there a sound test of og jades pc plate and silicone pad? stock case if possible
yes hahaha read that wrong also
though we meant the boron vs the silicone pad
time to get some sleep
to all the people who recommended me geon raws
god bless your soul
everytime i type with these switches its like i playing a song with no end
Did you buy from kbdfans goku? 
YES WITH THE WEIGHT
I might get 90, or more for both my 80 and 60
i'll make a video in a bit with my new mod
What switches did you go from?
Holy hell
they were nice switches but geon raw
That is an upgrade and a half
feels like this
Quite the upgrade
I mean lekker 1's isin't a good sounding switch at all haha
Bet the difference is huge
shit i might take this 60he+ every i go and just press on the keys like its a fidget spinner xD
I tried lekker 60v1's and swore if i ever get a wooting keyboard i would go all out because i did not like those switches what so ever xd
i am not worthy of these switches
Thinking about upgrading from jades to geon raw he but my wallet is looking abit empty 😒
Was thinking of getting my raws from the kbdfans ali
me and my 180 raw he switches lol
@fallen echo @calm pulsar i pledge my life to geon raw switches. Ty fellow comrades for this advice
180 extras? 
did I help
which switches are you buying
geon so real
Im looking at the 60gs since i like the weight of l60s
i got 40g since 50g was sold out and i bought it from kbfans website
I use v2 l45s on my 60 for school stuff, mainly cuz i wanted to not have them be 1.5s
i must disappear now
noooooo

Who wanna buy my jades for cheap
i have 90 of them already and they arent being used lol
it would be nice if there was a channel for selling/trading actually
i have brand new black knights i have laying around
pretty sure I heard that was axed coz people couldnt stay profesh about selling
could try selling on r/mechmarket maybe
thats interesting
this is the way indeed
lots of really cool sellers on mechmarket, they got like the entire GMK catalogue and shit is always popping over there
yup lots of steals but they always sell very quick
lots of brand new/lightly used sets and boards for under retail
I was able to get my Lazurite set for $210 which was like 20-30 below the actual original GB price which was lit af
for pretty much everything
fully sealed too
thats amazing
another place people sleep on is ebay
e white salvation unavailable everywhere and i managed to snag a brand new one off ebay for 250
Hey has anyone changed the switches on the 80he? If so I'd like to hear how the experience was or what was the level of difficulty. I'm thinking of changing the stock ones that came with my 80he.
I meant the stabilizers not switches my bad

where the sound test at though
Hey y'all, do the keycaps I select affect the way RGB will shine?
I got geon raw switches for the 80he
And I'm just wondering if the keycaps affect RGB in anyway, so that I can keep it in mind when shopping
i think you mean switches but yes they will, geon raw hes are pretty decent for rgb though
Gotcha
But do keycaps affect it at all?
yes also
if you want shine through lettering then you need to get shine through keycaps, but there are also things like pudding keycaps or the xray keycaps which will emphasize the rgb more
xray looks nice. the letters look like they are flowing on top of the cap

polychroma keycaps arent my thing tbh
how different does a thin cheap plastic case compare to a standard aluminium case if i put alot of foam in the case and pcb
in terms of sound, feel etc
is that good or bad
Very much so
probably 
oke
what about the plate
should i pick a certain material for plastic case
or is it all the same

the poron and silicone foam filter out sound slightly differently. poron would cause the board to produce slightly deeper sound compare to silicone, I think.
Foam is not a must. If the case is well-designed, foam may actually remove some characteristics special to the case.
is the tape mod worth it for 80he
@polar girder
Vaxee Ec1
Or
Zowie Za13Dw?
no clue lol
i never really followed either of those brands and i also haven't paid attention in a while tbhg
inbound tomorrow im in bed
i swear you only reply as soon as i open the app
one's ergo, one's ambi, bro
what you want
Yeah true but look at the shape of the Zowie. It’s crazy
Big hump
oh i was looking at vaxee e1
but yeah zowie looks sweet
probably the one i would get
is there a way to put modtap on winkey so that you have to hold it to activate it every time?
question is whether it's just rebranded ttc magnetos
It'll be funny if it's
LOL prob is
bro at this point I'll just probably get a Venom MX 60% pcb just to finally feel something new 😄
all these new HE switches arent really bringing anything new
what are the new stuff in switches? i always thought a lot of it is just material and build quality and lube quality that type of things. are people doing things that are like structurally different(open bottom switch, long spring, double stage spring for example)
Ball bearings in switch
That's what I did with my salvation and ended up buying 2 more mx keyboards since 
It's so fun buying like 30$ sets of hmx or keygeek switches to try out too
I got a set of the new BSUN and unikeys switches coming this week hopefully
the udon linears
The Unikeys Udon linear switch is our attempt at trying to create a clacky BSUN switch that is not thin-sounding. The stem material, Y3X, is the same as the Jade Rosales switches; It can be considered an improved LY or Y3 material, and Y3X is slightly softer than LY but much smoother than both LY and Y3. We chose to pa
like mx switches are using such cool materials, this has a Y3X stem which is new and really nice, fiberglass infused housings, etc
hopefully he will catch up fast, especially they can just copy
I hope so too
geon is working on some cool new box stem HE switches
he showed them on a YT stream a little while ago
got a link kind sir ?
\
yee

yeah they seem kinda interesting
have to use the subtitles obv but it sounds like he's making some adjustments
i no speak kr, i can't tell if the 2 at the bottom are jade and knight
I can't wait to get my hands on Silent Jade
silent jade?!
yeah there's so many choices in MX world
almost too many now a days
ayy, yakult flavored
Is that shit good? It looks unreal
tbh it's dumb that they called it jade cause they don't have the signature clack bottom out, it's an open bottom switch lmao
The top two are LowProfile Jade, LowProfile Jade Pro
Yes, I like to drink it once in a while
nice
ngl i prefer open bottom he switch more
Are these switches good?
if i put the switch close to my ear, i can kinda hear the sound thats like air squeezing out with close bottom
no
How come?
didnt you just say you prefer open bottoms 😄
for GAMING anything is fine
I don’t like heavy switches so a friend recommended this
magneto apparently would be the best for gaming though
at least for now
but they are hella expensive
I was thinking to try out Geon Raptor Extreme Gaming 😄
sounds funny but they are made by HMX and seem kinda nice, at least in sound tests
they have 3mm travel and faster actuation than usual MX too
you can just buy lighter springs instead of a whole new switch
unless you have older lekkers
geon pingless spring is the only option right now if you just want new springs and you don't wanna use aliexpress
i think
Wooting sells springs too
oh
oh yea
umu, can be very light
I still have a pack of wooting 100g springs that I never used
sound test between regular 40-60g raw to 100g SUPER RAW
?
see how spring force affect sound
Get Geon Raws
you can choose a lighter force
these springs are probably noisy as hell
best he swtich out rn imo
a lot of material
GEON RAW HE Linear Switch 2pins Switch Type – Linear, LubedInitial Force – 27.0g / 36.0g / 45.0gBottom-out Force – 40.0g / 50.0g / 60.0gSpring Length - 15.0mmSpring Type - Single-stagePre Travel - 0.1 ~ 3.3mm (Analog)Full Travel - 3.4mmTop Housing Material - PCBottom Housing Material - NYLONStem Material - POMMounting
there are people on bilibili who have tested some switches and found ttc magneto are better for gaming
but raw was not tested
maybe for a reason....
raw is not popular in cn
what was so good in them for gaming?
so
"Best for gaming" by unknown metrics
dk, but hold on hopefully i can find the vid
damn HE switch market is such bs I can't
maybe they are just trying to sell their switches or sponsor
they tested with machine to see how long you actually need to lift off the switch before the actual "release" on PC happens
raw is clear value winner and good overall
they likely measured some arbitrary differences and are hyperbolic about the impact that has on that one game most people dont even care about.
but not the raws...
thats true
what was the keyboard tho?
wooting?
That‘s like, entirely a software thing and depends on the keyboard and firmware version
And calibration
What foam material name is in the wooting 60he? Inside the default plastic case one?
And lots of other things
yea in that vid the calibration is kinda questionable
since hes putting different switches on the same board
I think they are just trying to sell their switches or sponsor sell
EPDM foam
can you even say how they are better for gaming lol
i am not sure if the wooting's auto calibration would look at the whole board or particular switches
Thx i get these do i buy 70 switches because i got the wootting 60 he
the vid shows a difference in lift off distance even with the same setting
where you're from? could be better to get from Divinikey if you're from US
Good point
Im from New Jersey
Depending on where you live the shipping from geon can be quite expensive but there are some other sellers that might end up cheaper for you
Thank u sir
compare shipping prices with the same switch from Divinikey
Yes this
Ok thank you guys I really appreciate it
you need over 61 switches, but get some extras just in case
divinikey sells in packs so there will be extras anyways
If you believe this I have a warehouse of copper to sell you in nanjing
how much
super cheap, 50% down and never see me again
what grade is the copper?
whatever grade you need
okay but there's a $1000 processing fee which I have to pay, say you help me out with that upfront
i think the "guess" at least is maybe due to the box stem
excuse me, that is not how these scams work
assuming the vid is not fake that is
you are the 'scammee'
I take C10200 a warehouse full. if you could grind it, that would be appreciated.
it can be as you mentioned
where I live there aren't any google gift cards being sold btw

Dont sell subpar copper or you will get a clay tablet complaint that will be unearthed thousands of years later
already ground, pls deposit 50% to BVI bank # then after clearing you will receive a vague call about production issues
I like where this is going. Will we end up in a protracted legal battle where you are represented by a cocker spaniel in a suit?
numbered company, money moved dead end
im afraid this ends with me on the beach mr bond
booooring. you have to give me at least some unusual form of entertainment.
I have a paiza, none shall pass
i mean, i never said raw is a bad choice, just based on the vid i saw on magneto that seems to be what people are getting for "gaming" specifically. but the advantage you get with that, assuming if it even exists, is not noticeable in practice
GMK, PBTfans, aliexpress
Osume
keep in mind "gmkkeycaps" and "gmkkeycap" websites sell fake gmk keycaps
Is there a difference between fake GMK and Real GMk?
Thx
depends who responds lol
GMK to PBTfans then TO ALIEXPRESS?

ae has some good shit but also a s44t ton of trash
he watched a vague video in chinese about AE and its the best for gaming
hey man its just something to consider, its better than saying just to get raw :V
no
it is better to get the Rws
haha
I mean the video is about the supposed deadzone, but I'm still not sure how a switch is able to fix it if it should be on the pcb's end
same which is why i dont believe that 100 either
let me restate
Prefence is king
like there is nothing in the switch is supposed to make it better
There is an overwhelming amount of enthusiasts that prefer the Geon Raws
ngl I might prefer jade pros now over raws, but purely in sound, the tolerances are still a bit better on raws
sound sure

which is why my frankenswitch is the best switch ever, accepting contracts btw
but performance > sound for me
not sure how raws are any better in performance
how much lol
0.3 dollar per switch final offer
They are technically better in performance
okay all you get is the aliexpress spring 😄
performance is kinda bs in switch to begin with which why i kinda just went to the extreme if you wanna go with "EXTREME GAMER GEAR" type shit
that 0.1 however small makes it faster
testing jade maxes rn on venom software, it can measure actual distance, and there is some variance, but im getting 3.2-3.4 distances lol
See here
i dont know for sure, but maybe the quality of the magnet also possibly matters maybe the quality of that can be off
like the strength that it has
its magnet strength that matters
and magnet strength isnt the same it also has a tolerance
does the calibration consider the entire keyboards' values as a whole or it look into each switch?
here are jade maxes travel distances
on raws it might be even lower
so margin of error is quite noticeable in numbers (not irl)
raws are lower baseline
analog
that's true, but you also don't know their magnet specifications, they need to be compared as well
has anybody done a spring swap on the jades? might just be me but i feel like they don't feel the same in comparison to putting a spring into a lekker switchj
in my really limited understand of ee, analog is way more sensitive to stuff especially you are essentially taking the current/voltage as the output
where as digital is more like a threshold
specifically; putting an L70 spring into jade feels way lighter than it does putting it into a V2 lekker switch
sure but im also sure some keyboard uber nerd would have screamed from the depths of his basement already with definitive proof if there was an issue or some big diff
Geons had issues
then were fixed
no such issues for raws
mx to he is a big difference. 0.1mm to 0.2mm i dont think is a big difference
given the choice, I will go faster
i rather enjoy the fact that wooting is safer with its settings to make sure things work
raws are simple, cheaper and easy
some clones go to like 0.01 and the keyboard sometimes just go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
how can you tell if clone
maybe i am just not sweaty enough
yeah raws are a no brainer for most ppl I'd say
yeee
curious to hear that new jade like switch from geon
wiht fully closed bottom and boxed stem
despite what i said about the ttc magneto( literally its just something worth look in to if they care about GAMING) i am a raw enjoyer at least for now
sticky rice is still the thing i wanna try the most, those legs might finally let HE board bounce
I wonder if someone could make sockets similar to hotswap sockets on MX, for holding down the he switches
so you can go plateless lol
yea
i want true salvation bounce

(i mean the flex cuts are not there in wooting but 1 step at a time)
i wouldve brought them if i wasn't a dumbass and brought 60module instead of 60he
Idk if youll ever get a true flex he board cause it needs the switches to be carefully controlled and at a set distance from the sensor (and surrounding ones too possibly)
higher performance HE boards will probably never get flex cuts cause it reduces real estate for circuit to move around
Venom 60he on sale
in my mind, just barely theoretically speaking, the leaf spring at the bottom should support the pcb enough to not go too crazy. with the sticky rice legs the switches won't go flying
yea but at that point
you cant even rest your fingers on your keys i feel like
i thought by higher performance you meant lower stable actuation point
no I just mean higher polling rate, which I don't personally care much about tbh, but I have it on venom60he and it probably increases not just input lag, but also the snappiness of rapid trigger and stuff
and as for 0.01mm actuation point, I think its dumb 😄
w take
polling i think somewhat make sense for mouse
but keyboard
nah
i don't believe that would be meaningful,
I saw it few hours ago, but now disappeared
yeah I think so too
even on mouse going 8khz hurts cpu performance
you gave me hope then you step on it
damn venom is getting popular
1000hz is 1ms if i am not a total braindead yet
It totally hidden from the store again now
Really?
yes
and should I just turn off 8k on the 80he
wooting ceo basically said its no diff to 1k
try doing 8k polling with high dpi then try to move in kovaak
your screen is going to look like ppt
on keyboard it is way less "used"
like on mouse it is utilized way more cause of all the minute details in movement
on keyboards it's a bit less registrations
so should be fine
I use a modded logitech superlight V1
ofc it also depends on the cpu
if you have a decent cpu then no issue?
I'd say so
I still would probably use like 2khz on mice though
5 seconds · Clipped by Josh · Original video "Why I went back to wired - OP1 8k review" by Viscose
on 80he 8khz should be fine
think thats is nice way to see why polling rate kinda matter
Im happy with my modded superlight for now
if ever I upgrade then ill keep that in mind
i do 8k polling on 1600dpi
so the higher dpi the better it is to have a higher polling rate?
i used to do 22000dpi with 8k polling then scale sensitivity down with rawaccel
higher dpi would utilize polling rate more
oh I see
because the polling rate is the rate of the update, dpi is like the amount of update
Cant do the wired
I mean im totally fine on 400 dpi and 1khz right now
my skill is what has to be improved at this point 😄
what do you have upgraded in it?
i think its more noticeable when you do tracking type of aim
but static aim i don't feel any difference between 8k to 4k
yeah makes sense
Tiger Skates ICE V2 & HUANO Blue with Pink dot switches soldered
that's cool
I already like the clicks on sora v2 over the viper v2 pro that I had, but may look into modding a mouse in the future
I found a form factor I liked that had modifiable switches
then I researched the kind of switch I wanted for fps
and wanted the glide because stock is lame
and I have a hayate otsu - mid
then play with settings
👀 do you see any noticeable difference in scores
I have a razer strider desk mat, it's already way better for me than all the cloth pads I had before, but im scared to go for even glidier pads 😄
It really is hard to say, ill explain
my goal was to remove latency at all points
btw time to wash the mat cause I might get dust on the lube again when I build my frankenswitches
Cat 6 cabling with good networking hardware
then keyboard latency
of course its undeniable that he keyboards make a big diff
have you messed with the clock freq in your operating system yet?
and then for mouse its personal
I feel like my control of gameplay is tighter and leads to better results
apparently the one windows use by default may not be "perfect"
its like fine tuning an engine
I have a decent pc, it is undervolted currently as their are issues with this intel line
not cpu, the system
but my chip is fine, when they release the new bio, I should be able to play with the undervolting and overclocking again
lol
apparently theres a timing schedule by the system that may impact performance
I have a 7800x3d but might upgrade to 9800x3d right away 😄
can't even really OC the x3d chips, just enable some curve optimizer and that's it
and how do I edit that
but more of a amd issue apparently
Im so jelly
I should have gone amd
Are you playing VALORANT on an AMD machine and find its performance lacking? I may have a quick fix for you.
Note
This only works if you have Asus AI Suite 3 installed, and HPET defaulted to on.
...
i saw this thing by riot
then i was like what exactly does that setting do
then i kinda went on to look at a bit
thanks, I will look into it
yeah I need to research it too
game specific?
which Intel you've got?
nope
14900k
dang I think you don't have to be jelly 😄
i think there was test online that showed visible fps difference in games
lets trade lol
you can tune your ram and cpu though, unlike on x3d chips
like the OC benefit is way smaller for me I think
simple
you dont need the oc
its just great
OC is overrated, its free performance yes, but not like meaningful difference from my perspective
:3
maybe a L take
I mean I personally agree cause I didnt really tinker much
just curve optimizer and some half assed ram tuning xd
and it performs great
It can depend

with x3ds you also care less about ram prices, just install something in there and it's fine 😄
my cinebench multi was 41700
i am full AMD right now i regret it
then new bios hit because intel is crashing like boeing
for me best is amd cpu and nvdia gpu
im on amd cpu nvidia gpu
plus i think amd pretty much oc their stuff "stock"
I appreciate all the nvidia features
win
my 6950xt
same
amd is really knocking it out of the park with the cpus
but they are letting their gpus die lol
i always use intel and nvidia because they are just better. then i was like, well intel and nvidia need competition and the recent amd stuff are good, maybe
it was L decision
go amd X3d and nvida
trust me
i have a 14900k
just look at all the issues affecting 13 and 14th gen intel
actually yea intel has been rolling with the same s44t for years
my cinebench dropped to barely 3800
I have yet to try out star citizen on my pc, i hear x3d is good for such badly optimized games lol
basically intel was juicing the voltage to compete
well at least it is easier to replace gpu vendor than cpu and motherboard
yes
im hanging on to my system because its the end of the line and my ddr4 is sweet

lol nice
what do you do? in the lab
phd student in machine learning algorithm 
"its learning how to game sir."
getting paid fucking 2k per month, making less than a dish washer while getting butt fucked by the dog shit education system
super cool
yeah but maybe your future job is gonna be insane
thats the dream
Hi guys, im new i don't have my 80HE yet i wanna know everything i can do to be ready
Is there some smart people here ?
Make AI waifu pls
Or convince them to not prune nsfw data on model since that can make its creative writing capability ass
https://huggingface.co/w4r10ck/SOLAR-10.7B-Instruct-v1.0-uncensored already exists man
U can use Fooocus AI it's easy asf
the big companies just don't let you run them
btw @kind helm here is probably the best open bottom switch out there
Small, plus there's better option like Mistral nemo already
i just go to huggingface and type "censored" for that one
xD
Plus very old
Lmao~
there are a bunch of them
Ehh, wouldn't count on that
most good model doesn't have that in their name
I meant to say, 'future' model, since future model might include more stuff that makes the model better, but might also be filled with stuff that's bad for creative writing.
Or not having one at all.
idk not my focus yet but i remember seeing it when i was on the site
whats the top
geon raw he
black and raw
lul

Early AM crew wildin 💀💀
patiently waiting for sound test
🗿
damn good luck
Good luck!
I wish i could xd
I got this
3pm xd
I just woke up and it’s 6 AM, gotta love timezones
yeah its a clean open bottom switch, but I never tried it
@tawdry tree do you know if anyone ever did a sound test with monochromes?
Tomorrow is the day to see if I get swindled on non gold stab wires
thank you kind sir
Disappear again
very quiet, which is nice for those who want it
hmm for now seems to be present on smartstore
My bad, it’s true
Why is raw he better than ordinary jade?
see if this site works now
that is exactly how much a "somewhat special" pcb should cost
Some test shows raw he stability better than normal jade
just in terms of wobble it would make sense for raw to be more stable since the housing is tighter
Cheaper, cheaper, better tolerances, cheaper
tolerances are better yeah
RAW/Jade pros are prob the only ones worth considering if you’re after the Jade sound profile
Insane
keep in mind you also need a plate for it
they are sold on there too
Yea I do like the sound profile, but more importantly, it does get stability improvements over stock Raws. I legitimately don't even miss typing on mx keyboards anymore.
Damn, I saw venom65he in geonworks discord
in the listing you can choose gh60 type of plate
and then 6.25u or 7u depending on which pcb you're getting
I‘m guessing this is why the 60 is on sale
can't find one
i went to look at the plate options under pcb, and then went to look under venom
oh the gh60 plates seem to be out of stock
just gonna wait until it gets to divinikey i guess
Wait for the 65he
this is hella popular, because i can go through geon work's page no issue.l that specific page though is stuck 50% the time
lol wild
damn Im gonna need me a gh60 plate for venom soon, hope they will restock
lowkey i wouldve thought this is like a cosplayer
It’s the new Wooting wood elf collab
You gotta look at Civit ai, they have a fuck ton of good pic and model to download
The Magnetic Genty Silent Switch is now in stock! Double shoulder mute pad in the top housing—creating a quieter gaming environment for you.
🛒https://t.co/T0rDHQcY9U
@kind helm https://civitai.com/images/37165187
magnetic who? 😄
How are they coming out with so many switches all the time
these have been known for quite a while
Genty~
not gentle at all
The enlightenment have been known for a hot sec, but the key to mass releasing 8 new switches is to have the most recent be a recolor box stem 
cant send the result here though
Anyone waiting for the owlab x wooting gh60
?
some of the gifs look crazy... maybe future games can directly run on ai
maybe like 5 to 10 years if the memory bottleneck actually practically get solved
can't wait for the review online to show how they actually silence the switch
open bottom
not silent at all
would be more mushy than my overlubed spacebar
LOL
unless the units people got were not yet the final thing
could be, their Zero Degrees aren’t mushy but also not silent at all
not even close
that looks like a small piece of silicone pad
nah, gotta get that Silent buzzword in there somewhere
yeah sadly, and not like the Maxes where top housing is compatible with KS-20 series bottoms
maybe pom stem is less sticky but still yikes

thank god cause my frankenswitch is always interrupting me
I gave them a pass for hifi sound but this is too far 😭😭
immerse heart and soul what does that even mean 😦
No way that’s real
lmao
Also wtf is their obsession with dual rail
im listening to them on senheiser 560s, the sound is very hifi and also Silent and Beauty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-pKEhkaIcY sound for the switch at around 5:30
Update! The "Enlightenment" switch is actually called a GENTY switch and it's a silent magnetic switch with "double shoulder mute padin top housing".
3:25 Five Gateron Magnetic Switches Comparison
4:55 Sound Test of Gateron Magnetic White, Jade, Jade Pro, Jade Max and the other switch
6:09 Gateron Magnetic Genty Silent
6:23 Gateron Magnetic Jad...
I like the jades but fuck does Gateron make it impossible to support them
