#🔧│keyboard_modding

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kind helm
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but just that tiny bit of travel i dont think is worth. mx once you know when you gonna meet the actuation i feel like stopping is actually more consistent in val.

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yea

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cs when you have SOCD you are legit cheating, because counter strafe is so important in that game.

calm pulsar
kind helm
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val is like people are still debating letting go/ counter strafe is better

calm pulsar
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HE is still nice with customizability and stuff

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and rapid trigger is still a nice feature

little glen
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I kinda want to make an mx board for work weSmart

kind helm
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yeee

kind helm
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:3 plastic board i just carry around when i go to lab

little glen
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I want giant metal case to beat someone with

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But i think i‘m linear enjoyer now so i‘d probably go for some linears idk

calm pulsar
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if I do MX I might go for Geon Raptor Extreme Gaming lmao

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so that it's still "gamer"

untold wigeon
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What do I do with the extra piece of foam that comes with the module

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I already got the alumaze foam in

opal umbra
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honestly i like linear and tactile equally

kind helm
little glen
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I want to try the linear roller switches or something idk

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Sounds interesting

little glen
kind helm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIlqBQM3lk8 dogekek the way he describe the sound got me into this switch

The first brown switch I like. Who knew such a thing was possible.

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calm pulsar
opal umbra
opal umbra
opal umbra
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kind helm
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the whole board is less expensive than wooting's fucking pcb

calm pulsar
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so loud

opal umbra
opal umbra
calm pulsar
opal umbra
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my snaps were super loud on that one

kind helm
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yea i didn't bother to mod this one at all

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only lubed the stab and added the switch

wild hemlock
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who wants like 65 TTC kom HE switches?

calm pulsar
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im hoping to achieve this

opal umbra
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i do like typing on a tactile switch a little bit more than linear tho

calm pulsar
kind helm
wild hemlock
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are they that bad

calm pulsar
calm pulsar
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never had em

opal umbra
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i dont mind it

wild hemlock
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do you want them for free

kind helm
opal umbra
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i just switch between my boards based on how i feel

wild hemlock
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i ripped them out

kind helm
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SwitchyConfused yee i used to stuff a lot of foam and s44t to my board

calm pulsar
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damn there's so much stuff in MX world to try
on HE there's open bottom and closed bottom, that's it xd

kind helm
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this one is more higher pitched

wild hemlock
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does anyone have black knights

opal umbra
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wdym by mx world

calm pulsar
wild hemlock
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in an HE keyboard

opal umbra
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like normal mech switches?

wild hemlock
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willing to send a sound test

calm pulsar
opal umbra
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oh yeah

kind helm
opal umbra
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i only use my wooting for gaming

kind helm
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magnetic switch is all on the higher pitch side

opal umbra
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i will always prefer a mechanical switch just for typing

calm pulsar
opal umbra
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unless they change how HE switches are

wild hemlock
kind helm
calm pulsar
kind helm
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i need to try so hard for he board to sound good

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mx you kinda just lube the stabs, get some decent switches, then you get something "good enough"

opal umbra
kind helm
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he... them lekker v1.... them og jade

kind helm
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dogekek fcking nightmares

calm pulsar
opal umbra
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odin 75

calm pulsar
opal umbra
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yeah u can actually have some flex

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unlike an HE board

kind helm
calm pulsar
kind helm
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nope just a normal review

calm pulsar
kind helm
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yea

calm pulsar
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even alexotos, when he did an HE board, of all variables he chose holy60 and some gateron orange switch💀 💀

kind helm
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i think thockson's keeb is the peak of tofu redux for wooting rn

calm pulsar
opal umbra
kind helm
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its essentially the same shit, LOL alu box with some standoffs

opal umbra
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only this is i will be able to use mechanical switches with it

kind helm
calm pulsar
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damn if I got so many HE switches just to tailor the sound a little bit, what's gonna happen to me when I get an MX pcb

kind helm
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i see the mx boards nowadays can do multiple different type of mounting

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W engineering work

opal umbra
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let me check

kind helm
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havo nahh you brought it without knowing that

calm pulsar
kind helm
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yea

opal umbra
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it says leaf spring mount

calm pulsar
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like salvSwitchyPog

opal umbra
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but every build video i see uses these gasket socks

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so idk

kind helm
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i am still hopeful that sticky rice can do like a proper plateless

opal umbra
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ive always been confused on it

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i dont mind it tho cause i love the gasket sock mount

kind helm
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salv the og leaf spring but apparently poopy finishing on the case

calm pulsar
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I wonder how cosmos salvation will look irl

kind helm
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this one?

calm pulsar
# kind helm this one?
Salvun

In collaboration with GMK Cosmos, we're offering a limited edition of Salvation with a sparkly black powder coat and cosmic cherry logo laser engraved on the back.   Keycaps or artisan not included. Extra PCB's can be found here Extra Plates can be found here Pre-Order Information Timeline for the Salvation x Cosmos is

kind helm
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me no like, looks hella messy

calm pulsar
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yeah and gmk cosmos might be way darker than the case

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so not sure

agile temple
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hello

kind helm
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also like key caps most of them would look clean, then with this case i feel like would be weird af

calm pulsar
opal umbra
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the case looks like foam

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on that board

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very grainy

little glen
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Foam case that sounds great

kind helm
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mine is betta hehehe

opal umbra
little glen
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I want a case made out of yellow kitchen sponge

kind helm
opal umbra
kind helm
opal umbra
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looks very nice

kind helm
kind helm
calm pulsar
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they should be cardboard too

kind helm
wild hemlock
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josh can i have your keyboard

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😄

opal umbra
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This is my tofu 65 2.0

calm pulsar
opal umbra
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i got it off of amazon

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they looked really cute

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makes my board kinda look like a typewriter tho

calm pulsar
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does tofu65 also have a ton of mounting styles?

opal umbra
wild hemlock
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what are they called

calm pulsar
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thats nice

wild hemlock
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i need them

opal umbra
wild hemlock
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yeah

opal umbra
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lemme find them

kind helm
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gave this to a lady friend

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womier with gateron milky yellow

opal umbra
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these are the keycaps i got

kind helm
opal umbra
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thing is i am gonna have a black board soon

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i think i might use the pink wire for it

kind helm
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new deskmat, new cable, new mood

opal umbra
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the blackpink reference

wild hemlock
kind helm
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i think bigger brands typically they don't go so crazy with the figures and patterns

wild hemlock
opal umbra
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yeah the bigger brands are a lot more minimalist

kind helm
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blobaww i wouldve try something like this if i got the white case instead

opal umbra
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seethrough keycaps arent really my thing tbh

kind helm
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i need a black tint and gold label variant

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with the fr4 plate would be so sexy

opal umbra
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ive been thinking about using an fr4 plate or pc plate on my new board

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idk what to choose between the 2 tho

kind helm
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fr4 maybe more your type based on the ones you show

opal umbra
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Yeah maybe I should switch it up

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I already have a board with pc plate

kind helm
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@calm pulsar still foamless in that latest sound test?

kind helm
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thockson's board got me interested in trying stiff plate with foam

calm pulsar
# kind helm ^

oh this one is my frankenswitch (but with gateron stem) in a freebird60 and fr4 plate, friction mounted

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its an older build

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and it had foams in it

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poron for plate and either silicon or foam for the case

opal umbra
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Oh yeah ima try my new board with no foams also

kind helm
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oh wait yea i heard this one before from 10/23

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no foam is W to me.

calm pulsar
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same

opal umbra
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See how nice it can sound

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Cause my tofus have foam

kind helm
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after trying it i really think if using a premium case, no foam is a must try

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with foam a lot of stuff sound similar

opal umbra
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Yeah foamed up boards all have a similar sound

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I feel like I might have to use a little bit of foam

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Cause the pcb on the board is gonna have flex cuts

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Idk we will see when I build it

kind helm
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SwitchyKnife TRY IT

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cause salvation has flex cut pcb as well and i think pretty much no one runs it with foam

opal umbra
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I’m gonna try it first with no foam or tape

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If I don’t like it I will tape up the flex cuts

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Foam is the last resort

vague stag
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any tips for creating a creamy sounding keeb? thinking of using the following:

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  • Gateron milky yellow pro (lubed)
  • FR4 plate
  • case foam, pcb foam and switch plade foam (probalby all poron)
  • gasket mounted keeb (thinking of buying an mode envoy)
kind helm
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SwitchyConfused creamy... foams... once you stuff all the foam in there, your nice mode envoy would sound like any budget alu board i think

vague stag
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god damn it

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just have to try I guess

kind helm
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maybe oil kings with plate foam

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taeha the goat did 4 sound tests. 2 no foam 2 with only plate foam

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SwitchyKnife do you see

vague stag
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will look at it

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thx!

crimson sky
kind helm
kind helm
crimson sky
kind helm
crimson sky
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to make it "more accurate"

left depot
kind helm
calm pulsar
# crimson sky to make it "more accurate"

yeah I notice that sometimes sound tests sound different from how they appear to me irl, so if taeha edits to make it similar to how he perceives it then its good

kind helm
kind helm
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but its kinda fcked if the whole purposea portion of of the purpose of sound tests is to help users compare

crimson sky
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I mean step 1 would be to even try to make the recording accurate

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instead of editing it afterwards

kind helm
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just curious :3

crimson sky
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blacksimon has a solid setup

kind helm
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i go to keybored for KNOWLEDGE, and glarses for laugh, but honestly i don't actively follow anyone else

crimson sky
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but even he says that they are not really representative outside of comparing them to each other

kind helm
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i think if the same setup is maintained, its meaningful to compare between sound tests made by the same channel

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but yea between channels its not really meaning

jade storm
crimson sky
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you also have to add table + deskmats

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distance and direction between mic and keyboard

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how the mic is mounted

kind helm
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found a somewhat frustrating thing about using wooting60he with salvation60 case. If the screws to the pcb are done lightly to avoid damaging the pcb, when plugging in the cable, the screw on the left side may loosen, causing the pcb to slide away from the center of the case. I can hold down the keys on the keyboard to make sure that the screw doesn't get loosen when plugging the cable, but the initial calibration of the switch would cause the keys to be "broken" for a brief moment. Not sure how the calibration works, but I did have one time when a key stopped working. Thought I broke the pcb during modding. dogekek

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i already have small marks on the pcb from doing the screws too tightly. I brought a electric screw driver just to make sure my precious pcb is well taken care off. Since I am not sure how the calibration works, currently if i want to switch keyboard, I just make sure to lift off the key press as soon as possible after the usb is plugged in.

actually... now i think about it, since screwing the pcb in to the case doesn't change the travel of the switch, i should just plug in the usb before doing that particular screw.

austere creek
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all screw holes have a grounding pad where the head is plus some spare area to be safe

austere creek
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so if the solder resist under the screwhead gets worn its not the end of the world and if anything just grounds it better

stray tiger
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My typical rule of thumb (no pun intended) is to finger tighten and then give it one extra half turn

umbral ridge
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whats better buy new stabs and do gummy oring mount or burger

stray tiger
tulip rapids
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all the parts have been delivered its time to mod

robust siren
robust siren
tulip rapids
umbral ridge
tulip rapids
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you'll be the first one to get my keyboard video

umbral ridge
polar girder
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Man I was flicking he nylon, PP and aluminum plate last night and PP had the lowest sound so I just left it in

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Buddy wanted to play Warzone and I wa gonna swap stabs and try diff plates but I just put it back together and played some games instead lol

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I feel like the BK switches just have too much noise so idgaf that much

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Was gonna force break too but kind of forgot about it and realized I need electrical tape

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Need a better black switch lol

fluid ravine
tulip rapids
pulsar schooner
marsh saffron
untold wigeon
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Just ordered these, their pretty good right?

winter moss
untold wigeon
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And 90 is the right choice right?

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For the 80he

winter moss
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probably

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nah jk its definitely enough

chilly mural
untold wigeon
tropic urchin
pulsar schooner
tropic urchin
pulsar schooner
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They are great. Slight wobble with no pressure applied to it, but once you have started the down stroke travel zero wobble

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It’s great

knotty iron
polar girder
knotty iron
polar girder
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Fk RGB

pulsar schooner
pulsar schooner
knotty iron
fallen echo
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looks like my jade gaming will come in tomorrow. guess I'll spend the day relubing xD

knotty iron
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jade gaming switches should be smooth

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do they have long springs

tropic urchin
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@knotty iron kinda looks like the geon spring size

young lantern
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is there a sound test of og jades pc plate and silicone pad? stock case if possible

kind helm
viscid gulch
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yes hahaha read that wrong also

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though we meant the boron vs the silicone pad

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time to get some sleep

tulip rapids
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to all the people who recommended me geon raws

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god bless your soul

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everytime i type with these switches its like i playing a song with no end

sweet oak
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Did you buy from kbdfans goku? pepe_notes

tulip rapids
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YES WITH THE WEIGHT

sweet oak
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I might get 90, or more for both my 80 and 60

tulip rapids
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ALL MY LORDDDDDDDD

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geon raw you have my soul

tulip rapids
viscid gulch
tulip rapids
viscid gulch
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Holy hell

tulip rapids
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they were nice switches but geon raw

viscid gulch
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That is an upgrade and a half

tulip rapids
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feels like this

sweet oak
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Quite the upgrade

viscid gulch
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I mean lekker 1's isin't a good sounding switch at all haha

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Bet the difference is huge

tulip rapids
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shit i might take this 60he+ every i go and just press on the keys like its a fidget spinner xD

viscid gulch
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I tried lekker 60v1's and swore if i ever get a wooting keyboard i would go all out because i did not like those switches what so ever xd

tulip rapids
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i am not worthy of these switches

viscid gulch
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Thinking about upgrading from jades to geon raw he but my wallet is looking abit empty 😒

sweet oak
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Was thinking of getting my raws from the kbdfans ali

knotty iron
tulip rapids
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@fallen echo @calm pulsar i pledge my life to geon raw switches. Ty fellow comrades for this advice

sweet oak
tulip rapids
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i pledge my life to you geon raw

knotty iron
knotty iron
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geon so real

sweet oak
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Im looking at the 60gs since i like the weight of l60s

knotty iron
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oh nice

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I got the 50g

tulip rapids
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i got 40g since 50g was sold out and i bought it from kbfans website

sweet oak
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I use v2 l45s on my 60 for school stuff, mainly cuz i wanted to not have them be 1.5s

tulip rapids
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i must disappear now

knotty iron
sweet oak
knotty iron
worthy spindle
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Who wanna buy my jades for cheap

knotty iron
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i have 90 of them already and they arent being used lol

young lantern
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it would be nice if there was a channel for selling/trading actually

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i have brand new black knights i have laying around

fallen echo
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pretty sure I heard that was axed coz people couldnt stay profesh about selling

tropic urchin
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could try selling on r/mechmarket maybe

young lantern
tropic urchin
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lots of really cool sellers on mechmarket, they got like the entire GMK catalogue and shit is always popping over there

young lantern
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yup lots of steals but they always sell very quick

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lots of brand new/lightly used sets and boards for under retail

tropic urchin
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for pretty much everything

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fully sealed too

young lantern
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thats amazing

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another place people sleep on is ebay

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e white salvation unavailable everywhere and i managed to snag a brand new one off ebay for 250

vestal drift
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Hey has anyone changed the switches on the 80he? If so I'd like to hear how the experience was or what was the level of difficulty. I'm thinking of changing the stock ones that came with my 80he.

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I meant the stabilizers not switches my bad

tulip rapids
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@robust siren

robust siren
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?

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noice

tulip rapids
tulip rapids
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😭

robust siren
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lol

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looks good

robust siren
untold wigeon
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Hey y'all, do the keycaps I select affect the way RGB will shine?

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I got geon raw switches for the 80he

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And I'm just wondering if the keycaps affect RGB in anyway, so that I can keep it in mind when shopping

uneven cradle
uneven cradle
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yes also

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if you want shine through lettering then you need to get shine through keycaps, but there are also things like pudding keycaps or the xray keycaps which will emphasize the rgb more

kind helm
opal umbra
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polychroma keycaps arent my thing tbh

untold wigeon
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how different does a thin cheap plastic case compare to a standard aluminium case if i put alot of foam in the case and pcb

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in terms of sound, feel etc

kind helm
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feel depends more on the mounting

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but i think plastic case would still sound deeper

untold wigeon
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is that good or bad

marsh saffron
kind helm
marsh saffron
# kind helm

What I prefer is better than what you prefer 😎

untold wigeon
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oke

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what about the plate

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should i pick a certain material for plastic case

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or is it all the same

kind helm
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its not

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denser material has higher pitch

untold wigeon
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oh

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high pitch in a plastic case would sound weird right

kind helm
marsh saffron
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I use PC plate

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Haven't messed with anything else aside the stock steel plate

untold wigeon
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acrylic is not on it

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is says 1.18 according to google

kind helm
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probably around POM and PC

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yea

untold wigeon
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oke

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is pcb foam any good

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at making things sound better

kind helm
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the poron and silicone foam filter out sound slightly differently. poron would cause the board to produce slightly deeper sound compare to silicone, I think.

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Foam is not a must. If the case is well-designed, foam may actually remove some characteristics special to the case.

untold wigeon
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ic

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oki

zenith roost
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is the tape mod worth it for 80he

untold wigeon
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@polar girder
Vaxee Ec1
Or
Zowie Za13Dw?

inland quail
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60he with Geon Raw HE switches and SA keycaps

polar girder
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i never really followed either of those brands and i also haven't paid attention in a while tbhg

tulip rapids
robust siren
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💀

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what is this timing

robust siren
polar girder
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what you want

untold wigeon
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Big hump

polar girder
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oh i was looking at vaxee e1

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but yeah zowie looks sweet

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probably the one i would get

bold dragon
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is there a way to put modtap on winkey so that you have to hold it to activate it every time?

cold bloom
glacial wind
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question is whether it's just rebranded ttc magnetos

chilly mural
cold bloom
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LOL prob is

calm pulsar
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all these new HE switches arent really bringing anything new

kind helm
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what are the new stuff in switches? i always thought a lot of it is just material and build quality and lube quality that type of things. are people doing things that are like structurally different(open bottom switch, long spring, double stage spring for example)

little glen
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Ball bearings in switch

kind helm
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daaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmn

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2 USD per switch

cold bloom
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It's so fun buying like 30$ sets of hmx or keygeek switches to try out too

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I got a set of the new BSUN and unikeys switches coming this week hopefully

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the udon linears

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like mx switches are using such cool materials, this has a Y3X stem which is new and really nice, fiberglass infused housings, etc

kind helm
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hopefully he will catch up fast, especially they can just copy

cold bloom
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I hope so too

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geon is working on some cool new box stem HE switches

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he showed them on a YT stream a little while ago

kind helm
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got a link kind sir ?blobaww

kind helm
cold bloom
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yee

kind helm
cold bloom
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yeah they seem kinda interesting

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have to use the subtitles obv but it sounds like he's making some adjustments

kind helm
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i no speak kr, i can't tell if the 2 at the bottom are jade and knightSwitchyCry

cold bloom
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I think jade pro at the bottom

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and clear are jade max

gaunt plume
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I can't wait to get my hands on Silent Jade

cold bloom
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the purple one is the silent jade

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not sure what the top 2 are

kind helm
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SwitchyPog silent jade?!

calm pulsar
cold bloom
chilly mural
cold bloom
calm pulsar
gaunt plume
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The top two are LowProfile Jade, LowProfile Jade Pro

chilly mural
cold bloom
kind helm
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ngl i prefer open bottom he switch more

still bolt
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Are these switches good?

kind helm
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if i put the switch close to my ear, i can kinda hear the sound thats like air squeezing out with close bottom

kind helm
still bolt
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How come?

calm pulsar
kind helm
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NOT THESE

still bolt
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Is there any reason why it’s not good

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?

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For gaming

kind helm
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for GAMING anything is fine

still bolt
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I don’t like heavy switches so a friend recommended this

kind helm
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magneto apparently would be the best for gaming though

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at least for now

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but they are hella expensive

calm pulsar
calm pulsar
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unless you have older lekkers

kind helm
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geon pingless spring is the only option right now if you just want new springs and you don't wanna use aliexpress

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i think

little glen
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Wooting sells springs too

kind helm
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oh

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oh yea

chilly mural
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umu, can be very light

kind helm
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LINEAR 100

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SUPER RAW IS POSSIBLE

calm pulsar
kind helm
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sound test between regular 40-60g raw to 100g SUPER RAW duh ?

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see how spring force affect sound

quasi hinge
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you can choose a lighter force

calm pulsar
quasi hinge
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best he swtich out rn imo

calm pulsar
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a lot of material

quasi hinge
kind helm
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there are people on bilibili who have tested some switches and found ttc magneto are better for gaming

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but raw was not tested

quasi hinge
kind helm
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raw is not popular in cn

calm pulsar
quasi hinge
little glen
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"Best for gaming" by unknown metrics

kind helm
calm pulsar
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damn HE switch market is such bs I can't

quasi hinge
kind helm
quasi hinge
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raw is clear value winner and good overall

fallen echo
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they likely measured some arbitrary differences and are hyperbolic about the impact that has on that one game most people dont even care about.

kind helm
calm pulsar
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wooting?

kind helm
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yea

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which was surprising to me

little glen
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And calibration

errant meadow
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What foam material name is in the wooting 60he? Inside the default plastic case one?

little glen
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And lots of other things

kind helm
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yea in that vid the calibration is kinda questionable

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since hes putting different switches on the same board

quasi hinge
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I think they are just trying to sell their switches or sponsor sell

quasi hinge
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can you even say how they are better for gaming lol

kind helm
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i am not sure if the wooting's auto calibration would look at the whole board or particular switches

still bolt
kind helm
calm pulsar
still bolt
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Im from New Jersey

little glen
errant meadow
calm pulsar
still bolt
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Ok they both the same

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?

quasi hinge
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Just local seller for you

still bolt
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Ok thank you guys I really appreciate it

calm pulsar
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you need over 61 switches, but get some extras just in case
divinikey sells in packs so there will be extras anyways

quasi hinge
quasi hinge
fallen echo
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what grade is the copper?

quasi hinge
calm pulsar
kind helm
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i think the "guess" at least is maybe due to the box stem

quasi hinge
kind helm
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assuming the vid is not fake that is

quasi hinge
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you are the 'scammee'

fallen echo
kind helm
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it can be as you mentioned

calm pulsar
little glen
quasi hinge
fallen echo
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I like where this is going. Will we end up in a protracted legal battle where you are represented by a cocker spaniel in a suit?

quasi hinge
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im afraid this ends with me on the beach mr bond

still bolt
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I also got another question where do you guys get Keycaps from that looks nice

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?

fallen echo
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booooring. you have to give me at least some unusual form of entertainment.

quasi hinge
kind helm
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dogekek i mean, i never said raw is a bad choice, just based on the vid i saw on magneto that seems to be what people are getting for "gaming" specifically. but the advantage you get with that, assuming if it even exists, is not noticeable in practice

quasi hinge
little glen
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Osume

calm pulsar
still bolt
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Is there a difference between fake GMK and Real GMk?

quasi hinge
kind helm
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GMK to PBTfans then TO ALIEXPRESS?

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ae has some good shit but also a s44t ton of trash

quasi hinge
kind helm
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hey man its just something to consider, its better than saying just to get raw :V

quasi hinge
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it is better to get the Rws

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haha

calm pulsar
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I mean the video is about the supposed deadzone, but I'm still not sure how a switch is able to fix it if it should be on the pcb's end

kind helm
quasi hinge
kind helm
quasi hinge
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let me restate

chilly mural
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Prefence is king

kind helm
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like there is nothing in the switch is supposed to make it better

quasi hinge
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There is an overwhelming amount of enthusiasts that prefer the Geon Raws

calm pulsar
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ngl I might prefer jade pros now over raws, but purely in sound, the tolerances are still a bit better on raws

kind helm
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you just got bored

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comon now

kind helm
calm pulsar
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which is why my frankenswitch is the best switch ever, accepting contracts btw

quasi hinge
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but performance > sound for me

calm pulsar
little glen
kind helm
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surely that tiny bit of wobble is gonna make you whiff

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nah

quasi hinge
calm pulsar
quasi hinge
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even if small

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jades are 3.5 and raws are 3.4

kind helm
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performance is kinda bs in switch to begin with which why i kinda just went to the extreme if you wanna go with "EXTREME GAMER GEAR" type shit

quasi hinge
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that 0.1 however small makes it faster

calm pulsar
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testing jade maxes rn on venom software, it can measure actual distance, and there is some variance, but im getting 3.2-3.4 distances lol

quasi hinge
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See here

kind helm
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i dont know for sure, but maybe the quality of the magnet also possibly matters maybe the quality of that can be off

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like the strength that it has

austere creek
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its magnet strength that matters

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and magnet strength isnt the same it also has a tolerance

kind helm
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does the calibration consider the entire keyboards' values as a whole or it look into each switch?

calm pulsar
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here are jade maxes travel distances
on raws it might be even lower
so margin of error is quite noticeable in numbers (not irl)

quasi hinge
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raws are lower baseline

kind helm
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dogekek analog

calm pulsar
near barn
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has anybody done a spring swap on the jades? might just be me but i feel like they don't feel the same in comparison to putting a spring into a lekker switchj

kind helm
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in my really limited understand of ee, analog is way more sensitive to stuff especially you are essentially taking the current/voltage as the output

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where as digital is more like a threshold

near barn
quasi hinge
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Geons had issues

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then were fixed

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no such issues for raws

kind helm
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mx to he is a big difference. 0.1mm to 0.2mm i dont think is a big difference

quasi hinge
calm pulsar
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yeah it's like saying ttc magneto is the best switch for gaming

kind helm
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i rather enjoy the fact that wooting is safer with its settings to make sure things work

quasi hinge
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raws are simple, cheaper and easy

kind helm
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some clones go to like 0.01 and the keyboard sometimes just go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

kind helm
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maybe i am just not sweaty enough

calm pulsar
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yeah raws are a no brainer for most ppl I'd say

kind helm
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yeee

calm pulsar
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curious to hear that new jade like switch from geon

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wiht fully closed bottom and boxed stem

kind helm
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despite what i said about the ttc magneto( literally its just something worth look in to if they care about GAMING) i am a raw enjoyer at least for now

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sticky rice is still the thing i wanna try the most, those legs might finally let HE board bounce

calm pulsar
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so you can go plateless lol

kind helm
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yea

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i want true salvation bounce

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(i mean the flex cuts are not there in wooting but 1 step at a time)

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i wouldve brought them if i wasn't a dumbass and brought 60module instead of 60he

little glen
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Idk if youll ever get a true flex he board cause it needs the switches to be carefully controlled and at a set distance from the sensor (and surrounding ones too possibly)

calm pulsar
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higher performance HE boards will probably never get flex cuts cause it reduces real estate for circuit to move around

ruby hill
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Venom 60he on saleSwitchyPog

kind helm
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in my mind, just barely theoretically speaking, the leaf spring at the bottom should support the pcb enough to not go too crazy. with the sticky rice legs the switches won't go flying

kind helm
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you cant even rest your fingers on your keys i feel like

calm pulsar
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why?

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you can adjust actuation point

kind helm
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i thought by higher performance you meant lower stable actuation point

calm pulsar
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no I just mean higher polling rate, which I don't personally care much about tbh, but I have it on venom60he and it probably increases not just input lag, but also the snappiness of rapid trigger and stuff

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and as for 0.01mm actuation point, I think its dumb 😄

kind helm
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w take

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polling i think somewhat make sense for mouse

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but keyboard

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nah

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i don't believe that would be meaningful,

ruby hill
calm pulsar
kind helm
calm pulsar
kind helm
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1000hz is 1ms if i am not a total braindead yet

ruby hill
kind helm
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thats already hella low

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there are more delay from pc and monitor i think

kind helm
quasi hinge
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and should I just turn off 8k on the 80he

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wooting ceo basically said its no diff to 1k

kind helm
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try doing 8k polling with high dpi then try to move in kovaak

#

your screen is going to look like ppt

calm pulsar
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like on mouse it is utilized way more cause of all the minute details in movement

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on keyboards it's a bit less registrations

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so should be fine

quasi hinge
calm pulsar
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ofc it also depends on the cpu

quasi hinge
calm pulsar
kind helm
calm pulsar
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on 80he 8khz should be fine

kind helm
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think thats is nice way to see why polling rate kinda matter

quasi hinge
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if ever I upgrade then ill keep that in mind

kind helm
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i do 8k polling on 1600dpi

calm pulsar
kind helm
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i used to do 22000dpi with 8k polling then scale sensitivity down with rawaccel

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higher dpi would utilize polling rate more

calm pulsar
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oh I see

kind helm
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because the polling rate is the rate of the update, dpi is like the amount of update

kind helm
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if you dont have the amount, there is nothing for the polling part to see

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in a way

calm pulsar
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I mean im totally fine on 400 dpi and 1khz right now
my skill is what has to be improved at this point 😄

calm pulsar
kind helm
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i think its more noticeable when you do tracking type of aim

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but static aim i don't feel any difference between 8k to 4k

calm pulsar
quasi hinge
kind helm
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putting them og keyboard modding skills to the test

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W gamer

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LOL

calm pulsar
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I already like the clicks on sora v2 over the viper v2 pro that I had, but may look into modding a mouse in the future

quasi hinge
#

then I researched the kind of switch I wanted for fps

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and wanted the glide because stock is lame

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and I have a hayate otsu - mid

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then play with settings

kind helm
#

👀 do you see any noticeable difference in scores

calm pulsar
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I have a razer strider desk mat, it's already way better for me than all the cloth pads I had before, but im scared to go for even glidier pads 😄

quasi hinge
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my goal was to remove latency at all points

calm pulsar
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btw time to wash the mat cause I might get dust on the lube again when I build my frankenswitches

kind helm
quasi hinge
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then keyboard latency

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of course its undeniable that he keyboards make a big diff

kind helm
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have you messed with the clock freq in your operating system yet?

quasi hinge
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and then for mouse its personal

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I feel like my control of gameplay is tighter and leads to better results

kind helm
#

apparently the one windows use by default may not be "perfect"

quasi hinge
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its like fine tuning an engine

quasi hinge
kind helm
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not cpu, the system

quasi hinge
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but my chip is fine, when they release the new bio, I should be able to play with the undervolting and overclocking again

quasi hinge
kind helm
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apparently theres a timing schedule by the system that may impact performance

calm pulsar
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I have a 7800x3d but might upgrade to 9800x3d right away 😄
can't even really OC the x3d chips, just enable some curve optimizer and that's it

kind helm
#

but more of a amd issue apparently

quasi hinge
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I should have gone amd

kind helm
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i saw this thing by riot

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then i was like what exactly does that setting do

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then i kinda went on to look at a bit

calm pulsar
#

yeah I need to research it too

calm pulsar
kind helm
#

nope

quasi hinge
calm pulsar
#

dang I think you don't have to be jelly 😄

kind helm
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i think there was test online that showed visible fps difference in games

quasi hinge
calm pulsar
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you can tune your ram and cpu though, unlike on x3d chips

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like the OC benefit is way smaller for me I think

quasi hinge
#

you dont need the oc

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its just great

kind helm
#

:3

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maybe a L take

calm pulsar
#

just curve optimizer and some half assed ram tuning xd

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and it performs great

kind helm
quasi hinge
#

my chip liked being undervolted

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i have -0.0900 offset

calm pulsar
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with x3ds you also care less about ram prices, just install something in there and it's fine 😄

quasi hinge
#

my cinebench multi was 41700

kind helm
#

i am full AMD right now i regret it

quasi hinge
#

then new bios hit because intel is crashing like boeing

kind helm
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i wish i brought nvidia card instead

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can't run ML at homeSwitchyCry

quasi hinge
calm pulsar
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im on amd cpu nvidia gpu

kind helm
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plus i think amd pretty much oc their stuff "stock"

calm pulsar
#

I appreciate all the nvidia features

quasi hinge
kind helm
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my 6950xt

quasi hinge
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amd is really knocking it out of the park with the cpus

#

but they are letting their gpus die lol

kind helm
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i always use intel and nvidia because they are just better. then i was like, well intel and nvidia need competition and the recent amd stuff are good, maybe

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SwitchyCry it was L decision

quasi hinge
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trust me

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i have a 14900k

kind helm
quasi hinge
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just look at all the issues affecting 13 and 14th gen intel

kind helm
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actually yea intel has been rolling with the same s44t for years

quasi hinge
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my cinebench dropped to barely 3800

calm pulsar
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I have yet to try out star citizen on my pc, i hear x3d is good for such badly optimized games lol

quasi hinge
#

basically intel was juicing the voltage to compete

calm pulsar
kind helm
#

true

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and honestly if i really want

kind helm
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i can steal one of the 4090 in my lab and put it on my home pc

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"for research purpose"

quasi hinge
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im hanging on to my system because its the end of the line and my ddr4 is sweet

kind helm
calm pulsar
kind helm
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phd student in machine learning algorithm dogekek

calm pulsar
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oh wow

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that's super cool

quasi hinge
kind helm
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getting paid fucking 2k per month, making less than a dish washer while getting butt fucked by the dog shit education system

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havo super cool

calm pulsar
#

yeah but maybe your future job is gonna be insane

kind helm
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duh thats the dream

swift steppe
#

Hi guys, im new i don't have my 80HE yet i wanna know everything i can do to be ready

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Is there some smart people here ?

chilly mural
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Or convince them to not prune nsfw data on model since that can make its creative writing capability ass

swift steppe
kind helm
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the big companies just don't let you run them

calm pulsar
#

btw @kind helm here is probably the best open bottom switch out there

chilly mural
kind helm
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xD

chilly mural
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Plus very old

kind helm
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there are a bunch of them

chilly mural
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Ehh, wouldn't count on that

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most good model doesn't have that in their name

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I meant to say, 'future' model, since future model might include more stuff that makes the model better, but might also be filled with stuff that's bad for creative writing.

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Or not having one at all.

kind helm
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dogekek idk not my focus yet but i remember seeing it when i was on the site

calm pulsar
kind helm
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i assume thats like your franken

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the top housing

calm pulsar
#

that's black knight x geon raw he

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BK bottom and stem and raw upper

kind helm
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black and raw

calm pulsar
#

lul

kind helm
tropic urchin
#

Early AM crew wildin 💀💀

paper bloom
#

@calm pulsar MY BOI

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THE DAY HAS COME

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TOMORROW IS IT

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the day of my IPPT

kind helm
#

dogekek patiently waiting for sound test

paper bloom
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🗿

calm pulsar
paper bloom
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Im so fucking cooked

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icl

chilly mural
paper bloom
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Im actually shaking rn

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From it

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LOL

calm pulsar
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I thought you would say you bought venom60he but that's also cool

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xd

chilly mural
#

Sleep well

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drink well

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and dream well

paper bloom
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im boutta do that and get a gold tmr

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LOL

paper bloom
calm pulsar
kind helm
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lack of better word, sounds tight

tropic urchin
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I just woke up and it’s 6 AM, gotta love timezones

calm pulsar
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yeah its a clean open bottom switch, but I never tried it

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@tawdry tree do you know if anyone ever did a sound test with monochromes?

tropic urchin
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Tomorrow is the day to see if I get swindled on non gold stab wires

calm pulsar
#

@kind helm venom appeared on the korean storepepe_uhm

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60% one

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with a discount

kind helm
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i deleted the link

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lol fck

kind helm
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thank you kind sir

calm pulsar
calm pulsar
ruby hill
covert vigil
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Why is raw he better than ordinary jade?

kind helm
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see if this site works now

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that is exactly how much a "somewhat special" pcb should cost

ruby hill
kind helm
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just in terms of wobble it would make sense for raw to be more stable since the housing is tighter

tropic urchin
calm pulsar
tropic urchin
#

RAW/Jade pros are prob the only ones worth considering if you’re after the Jade sound profile

calm pulsar
#

they are sold on there too

stark osprey
ruby hill
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Damn, I saw venom65he in geonworks discord

kind helm
#

wait a min

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only plates for frog mini

calm pulsar
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and then 6.25u or 7u depending on which pcb you're getting

little glen
kind helm
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can't find one

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i went to look at the plate options under pcb, and then went to look under venom

calm pulsar
#

oh the gh60 plates seem to be out of stock

kind helm
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SwitchyConfused just gonna wait until it gets to divinikey i guess

kind helm
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this is hella popular, because i can go through geon work's page no issue.l that specific page though is stuck 50% the time

calm pulsar
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lol wild

kind helm
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@chilly mural running through google colab

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this looks so good tf

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damn

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LOLOL

calm pulsar
#

damn Im gonna need me a gh60 plate for venom soon, hope they will restock

kind helm
#

lowkey i wouldve thought this is like a cosplayer

tropic urchin
#

It’s the new Wooting wood elf collab

chilly mural
tawdry tree
chilly mural
little glen
calm pulsar
kind helm
#

dogekek can confirm fooocus is not censored if you know what i mean

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LMAO

tawdry tree
#

not gentle at all

tropic urchin
kind helm
#

cant send the result here though

ruby hill
#

Anyone waiting for the owlab x wooting gh60PepeBusiness ?

kind helm
#

maybe like 5 to 10 years if the memory bottleneck actually practically get solved

kind helm
#

open bottom

tawdry tree
#

closed bottom silent would be crazy

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😂😂

kind helm
#

LOL

tawdry tree
#

unless the units people got were not yet the final thing

tawdry tree
#

not even close

kind helm
#

that looks like a small piece of silicone pad

tawdry tree
#

yeah

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it’s dual rail anyway so pretty useless

kind helm
#

maybe the marketing people were like "we cant call these dampen switches"

calm pulsar
#

💀

tawdry tree
#

nah, gotta get that Silent buzzword in there somewhere

kind helm
tawdry tree
calm pulsar
#

maybe pom stem is less sticky but still yikes

kind helm
calm pulsar
tropic urchin
# kind helm

I thought the Jade gaming was supposed to be immersive /s

tropic urchin
#

I gave them a pass for hifi sound but this is too far 😭😭

kind helm
#

immerse heart and soul what does that even mean 😦

tropic urchin
#

No way that’s real

calm pulsar
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lmao

tropic urchin
#

Also wtf is their obsession with dual rail

calm pulsar
kind helm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-pKEhkaIcY sound for the switch at around 5:30

Update! The "Enlightenment" switch is actually called a GENTY switch and it's a silent magnetic switch with "double shoulder mute padin top housing".

3:25 Five Gateron Magnetic Switches Comparison
4:55 Sound Test of Gateron Magnetic White, Jade, Jade Pro, Jade Max and the other switch
6:09 Gateron Magnetic Genty Silent
6:23 Gateron Magnetic Jad...

▶ Play video
tropic urchin
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I like the jades but fuck does Gateron make it impossible to support them