🔧│keyboard_modding

[pliant kernel]

You can make black alu from raw tofu60, you need some plastic bin and chemicals to do it

[kind helm]

chemistry scares me

especially after watching breaking bad.

[pliant kernel]

Hardly dangerous with just battery acid and lye and 12v source

[polar girder]

Fk what board is that

Hella clean

Bro yes exactly

Need HE lol

[untold wigeon]

I summon the keyboard gods to help me rq

Is the geon raw he the same as the geon raw he magnetic switches?

[polar girder]

Yes

HE is magnetic switch

[pliant kernel]

HE stands for Hall effect

[kind helm]

HE is hall effect, it is a principle related to magnetic

[calm pulsar]

luminkey lx60, blackout colorway

[untold wigeon]

So these are the same?

[ionic breach]

ye

[untold wigeon]

Is kbd trusted?

[calm pulsar]

one is 0.48 the other 4.80

[ionic breach]

i guess

[calm pulsar]

yes I got a ton of stuff from them

[untold wigeon]

One comes In 1 and the other in a pack of 10

[calm pulsar]

from their ali store

[untold wigeon]

Ok

[pliant kernel]

Exactly same, someone botched up the color calibration on the first picture

[untold wigeon]

How long is delivery?

[calm pulsar]

yeah im just goofing

[untold wigeon]

I’m in aus

[kind helm]

it tells you in check out

[untold wigeon]

Oh bet

[calm pulsar]

they do

really well done actually

imo

[ionic breach]

same source

different store

[untold wigeon]

Ok

[calm pulsar]

wait check Cafege

maybe they have raw he

this is an AU store

[untold wigeon]

If I get a wooting 60he+ module and the alumaze case, will I need any stab or changes if I get the raw he switches since they’re only 3.4mm

Ok

[ionic breach]

https://cafege.com.au/products/geonworks-raw-he

[uneven cradle]

Yeah they got stock not too long ago

[untold wigeon]

They have them

0-0

Mb

[calm pulsar]

it isnt absolutely needed but you could get geon stem spacers in order to avoid some stabs being incompatible

[calm pulsar]

nice, way faster delivery

[untold wigeon]

How many switches do I need for a 60%

[pliant kernel]

62 for iso

[untold wigeon]

I’m getting ansi I think

[calm pulsar]

61 for ansi

but get some extras

[ionic breach]

maybe get 65-70

[untold wigeon]

I’ll get 70 then

[novel bramble]

I have the dual stage one on my blackwidow

[untold wigeon]

How come the initial force on kbd is different to the initial force to cafege on the switches

[calm pulsar]

wait whaa? no screw? like you're using a plate and it is not attached to the pcb, like on MX?

hmm on salvation it might actually work well
on frog mini the pcb might fall down im afraid

[kind helm]

exactly my thought :3

[calm pulsar]

I imagine it sounds more even cause standoff points introduce some brightness around them

[untold wigeon]

Is this the same but 36g is the 50gf and cafe don’t have different options?

[ionic breach]

cafege stocks 50s only

geon sells 40/50/60

36 is initial force which you should ignore for referencing switches

look at bottom out

[kind helm]

no stand off, fr4 from kbdfan

[pliant kernel]

Did anyone use any springs between 70 and 100 grams for geon raw he ?

[calm pulsar]

I used 70g springs with my other switches, I also got lekker 100 springs but never tried them

70gs were fine

[untold wigeon]

Do I need anything like tools to install and make my keyboard?

[pliant kernel]

Nothing

[untold wigeon]

Or is it just like Lego

[kind helm]

screwdriver

[untold wigeon]

Okey

I got that

[pliant kernel]

Ah, yes if you go with wooting module, you need a screwdriver

[calm pulsar]

if you ever want to open up switches for lubing, might need a switch opener

other than that, wooting comes with a keycap and switch puller

[pliant kernel]

In order to mount inside the case.

[kind helm]

f lubing

:V

[calm pulsar]

it is plastic though so the pupper part might break in time, but keycap tool is awesome from wooting

[untold wigeon]

I’m using alumaze case, wooting 60he+ module, geon raw he switches and Amazon keycaps lol

[kind helm]

never doing that shit again unless i somehow retire before my 30s

[pliant kernel]

Sadly, I never got the switch puller, only keycap puller from my 60he box

[untold wigeon]

The keycaps look cool tho

[calm pulsar]

lul

[kind helm]

[calm pulsar]

I work from home and sometimes I even manage to rebuild my keyboard while nothing is happening at work

but if something comes up I grab my gfs board

[kind helm]

its kinda crazy how i prefer having screw than not with this keeb, that is a first time

[untold wigeon]

My keycaps lol

I’m going to enter the matching mouse pad later tbh

[kind helm]

2 first time things happened with this salvation board now, no foam and having screw

[calm pulsar]

by screw you mean what in this case?

[kind helm]

with pcb

when i took off the screw with pcb it actually sounded worse to me

[calm pulsar]

oh like "tray" mounting?

I know it's not quite tray mounting in salvation, but it uses screws iirc

[kind helm]

the sound comparison i made was between <no screw between pcb and plate> and <2 screws between pcb and plate>, surprisingly, with 2 screws sounds clear to me

the salvation's screws are between pcb and case :3

[fluid ravine]

[kind helm]

pretty much tray mount, i was expecting more bounce when i took off screws, but i would guess that is more off a fr4 thing rather than screw thing.

sound nicer than tray mount though i think

otherwise why the fuck did i spend 300 on this case

[calm pulsar]

ahh ic now lol

[fluid ravine]

am lost as shit rn

lmfao

[calm pulsar]

well it has some leaf springs to which you mount? and if I understand right there are also spots for screws?

[fluid ravine]

Yeah it's a leaf spring tray mount

[calm pulsar]

hmm I guess im still lost then lmao

[kind helm]

yea, the leaf springs have one hole on each end, you can decide where the screw goes

[fluid ravine]

You mount it like any other tray mount board but the salvation provides a lil more gimmick with the leaf springs

The leaf springs allows the board to have a much softer typing feel

[kind helm]

not much

maybe much compare to tray mount

[fluid ravine]

And salvation users can also adjust their board's sound based on how tight they screw in the mounting points

[fluid ravine]

This shi is really in depth but kinda not

[calm pulsar]

yeah its a unique board

[fluid ravine]

Case* I'd say

[fluid ravine]

Really?

[kind helm]

you can change where these two screws go, but the one in the image i think is pretty much the default setup

[fluid ravine]

indeed

[kind helm]

at least not with fr4

[fluid ravine]

well im talking about the mounting style though

the leaf springs

Wait is it a MX board or a Wooting PCB in a Salvation? @kind helm

[kind helm]

top and bottom has the most amount of flex, but the middle parts not so much

wooting's

[fluid ravine]

that would make sense

Ok the amount of "bounce" would make sense

[kind helm]

top and bottom actually bounce like crazy :V

[fluid ravine]

but I would personally look into how soft the typing feel is rather than bouncee

[calm pulsar]

when I get my luminkey60 I will finally try out a real gummy oring mount for lol

[kind helm]

that is what i was wishing

[fluid ravine]

Like my board although it may seem to have a lot of bounce, or more bounce than @calm pulsar 's frog mini says him, it may not be as soft as a salvation nor maybe a frog mini

That's how I would think of "bounce" and soft typing feel

[kind helm]

but i guess if i really want to mess with it, i can mod the cushion beneath the leaf spring, that would maybe make it softer

[calm pulsar]

yeah I found even if there’s not much bounce, the sound and feel on frog is way softer

[fluid ravine]

100%

[kind helm]

will you still have to screw in the plate with pcb?

[fluid ravine]

ah my man

[kind helm]

i think at the current state, with those two screwed in together, you get better different sound for sure, but the feel is not gonna be "real gasket mount" feel

[fluid ravine]

I would really love a gummy mounted board one day

[kind helm]

:3 but that is just me with my really limited understanding

[fluid ravine]

or some unique type of mount

[calm pulsar]

with venom he I won’t have to change anything, but for wooting might just need to drill holes in the plate lol

and mount using gaskets

[fluid ravine]

Ah i mean yeah it's not a gasket mounted board after all

it's just a much "better"/softer tray mount ver if yknow what i mean

prob the best tray mount you could get ig? idk i aint gonna say much

[kind helm]

yea

[fluid ravine]

but it is for sure amazing

Dr Dave be sending me his salvation and all his other board sound tests, it's so fun to listen to

[kind helm]

i mean i think you can do actual gasket mount if you are ready to ruin the pcb and the switch

or at least not change them forever

[fluid ravine]

@kind helm tip, if you want to make your salvation board sound more brighter or less thuddy buy some rubber dome bumpons and use it as the case feet. It's a very much noticeable improvement

[calm pulsar]

I wonder if wooting’s friction mount thing is better than friction we usually do

[fluid ravine]

i mean just get a custom plate actually and get a 60% case that is compatible or what not

which i think you can't really find?

[kind helm]

by the look it should be more even, but not much better than that :3

[fluid ravine]

You can ruin the PCB for actual gummy mount the wooting 60he pcb

"ruin"

[kind helm]

xD

[fluid ravine]

and no im not talking about friction mount

[kind helm]

yea i know what you mean

[fluid ravine]

actually dremeling your pcb for the case posts for gummy mounting

[kind helm]

the standoffs

the venom60he has cutouts

HE Bakeneko60 is possible right now

[fluid ravine]

oh for the wooting to have it
aint gonna pressure them, it's a stupid idea and gonna take a lot of time to rethread the whole thing and recode and shit (we talked about it before)

[kind helm]

i asked one of the guys on the team

i think it was the youtube content guy

he said one step at a time

[fluid ravine]

lmao

[fluid ravine]

hmmm

honestly, arc, i think it will be much easier to use

[calm pulsar]

yeah I tried to pitch tsangan layout to Thockfather and Cam, but they seemed like they know it aint happening

the gummy cutouts are probably the same thing here

[fluid ravine]

what would be nice if they would do what kbdfans did with the nipple case

[kind helm]

one thing that i dont like about that friction mount thing they are making is, essentially you have to have a silicone piece between pcb and plate now

with that

[fluid ravine]

would agree

[calm pulsar]

yeah I remember trying to push the pcb inside with the thickass oring I got from aliexpress lol

[fluid ravine]

yeah that's why i would like keep talking about them should implement the nipple case's plate foam/pad

wait that was not english 💀

[fluid ravine]

lmao, i mean o'rings that are for sure fitting would 100% fit if you know how to install it

[calm pulsar]

yeah I just didnt have access to the nicer bakeneko orings or wtv they are called

[fluid ravine]

oh right you're not in the states xd

well atleast you got the frog mini

someone in one of my yt vid commented about getting the frog mini

or trying it

[calm pulsar]

yeah it traveled from AU to US and to me xd

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/broke-no-cash-gif-25565154

and i was like

[kind helm]

whats your channel :3

[calm pulsar]

ohh yes I saw this actually

[kind helm]

i love your lekker v1 mod, that was voodoo magic to me.

[fluid ravine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNl4cte7XEY

[kind helm]

i heard that sound test i was like how the fck did you make this piece of ___ sound good

[fluid ravine]

haha thanks but should give the credit to the creator himself, I'm not gonna ping him but his name is GeWaltofRiwa

I just expanded on the mod

and advertise it and shi

[fluid ravine]

yeah that was almost like a year ago by now xd

i'm still impressed how it good it sounded for only the lekkers being out back then

even till now

[fluid ravine]

lmao

[kind helm]

did you do tape mod on that?

[fluid ravine]

uh yeah!

Really wanted the board to emphasize on the low's and mid's back then

or in simple terms

THOCC

[ionic breach]

man that bounce is sexy

[kind helm]

i had pretty much the exact same build with pc plate and cotton at the bottom instead xD

[calm pulsar]

ikr

[fluid ravine]

thanks

[fluid ravine]

actual cotton?

ya boi loves his bounce

[kind helm]

the stuff i saw on tempest's channel like 2 3 years ago

[fluid ravine]

oh man haha

[kind helm]

i feel like tape mod is almost a must to go along with these in case i fry my pcb :3

[fluid ravine]

Like till this day, although I have matured out of my "Thock"son phase, I still like how this sound just for it being a Wooting

It's almost a full year by now

[fluid ravine]

Don't ask me for the build specs, hell like if i remember

[kind helm]

i love how you went from that to CF plate

C L A C K

[fluid ravine]

haha

fr

have the pc plates in my closet

both white and black

GH60 (Tofu V1 clone)
PC plate
Lube Switches (Krytox 205g0)
Stock Stabs (Lubed Housing and Stem with Krytox 205g0, Dieletric Grease on Wire, Holee Mod)
Switch Tape Mod (3 layers of gentle paper tape)
Bandaid mod (Dry)
Tempest mod (1 layer Masking Tape)
Gloirous GBPT Keycaps
Poron Switch Pads
Friction Mount
No Plate foam
Wooting Case foam

found it

[pliant kernel]

That's some highly detailled list of mods you have applied on

[fluid ravine]

Now let's compare to my current config:
Wooting 60HE
GH60 Aluminum Case (Standoff Dremeled, Add Woodblock to the cavity, Bumpon replacement feet)
GMK 80082
Geon RAW HE 60g
KBDfans CF Plate
TX AP plate mounts (Bone Dry STOCK)
Friction Mount (Bakeneko60 30a O'ring)
Polyfill
KeebMat Felts Edition Light Grey

[pliant kernel]

[fluid ravine]

12 lines

[fluid ravine]

9 but tech 7 in comparison

[pliant kernel]

Note to self : get Geon Raw HE and mod with 100g springs plus a custom metal case for weight

[fluid ravine]

haha

note to self: order all of the geon raw he stock when have enough munni (which is never)

[pliant kernel]

I cant get the case and switches right away due lack of money

[fluid ravine]

whats money

I got them McD's Buck

$1 McD Buck

[pliant kernel]

McD, eh

[calm pulsar]

I hope the 100g springs aint too loud lol

[fluid ravine]

MICKY DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

nom

[calm pulsar]

cause there's a lot of material

make sure to lube them

[fluid ravine]

I don't even eat fast food lmao, it just sound funny to me

[pliant kernel]

Ah, yeah same here. There was e.coli outbreak at mcdonalds

[fluid ravine]

dual staged/longer 60g HE spring when

[fluid ravine]

dafuq is a e.coil

oh nvm

im dumb

[pliant kernel]

In theory, I have a metal lathe. I can make my own springs if I can get bothered to

[kind helm]

👀 wait i didn't notice, how the hell did you make it bounce like that @fluid ravine

[fluid ravine]

you see how my pinky was raised when i was typing?

that's the magic

jkjk

[pliant kernel]

I just fixed mine, swapped 2 last letters there

[kind helm]

[fluid ravine]

Friction mount+polyfill

[tulip rapids]

what did you do to achieve this

[fluid ravine]

that's the magic stuff right there

[kind helm]

but doesn't the pcb touch the standoff at the bottom?

[calm pulsar]

hogwarts

[fluid ravine]

You asked at a great time, getting that is now more easier to achieve than back then

[kind helm]

i don't remember that kind of flex from mine 0.0

[tulip rapids]

not today but if you had a moment to spare i would like to ask you some questions about modding if not its all good

[kind helm]

also another thing i am curious of is which screws did you choose to screw in, all or just a selected few

[fluid ravine]

Tip: Use any sound modifiers the boosts low's and mid's (TAPE MOD) and best to use low resonance plate, or just plastic plates in general. PC, POM, and PP works best. PC can sound dead but tape mod can somewhat help it, POM and PP have the same acoustic but has a unique pop to it so i recommend those.

[kind helm]

i am kinda experimenting with it

[fluid ravine]

go ahead ask away

[tulip rapids]

can i dm you?

[fluid ravine]

well you can fill the case up with polyfill above the standoffs and posts

[fluid ravine]

fs go ahead

[kind helm]

nahhhh

thats actually a play

i was honestly thinking like the gasket mounting thingy from another case and put them on the standoffs

[fluid ravine]

all

if you're talking about pcb and plate screws then all

[calm pulsar]

polyfil is probably nicer than foam, but zero foam is based too

[kind helm]

no foam gang rise up

[fluid ravine]

cus if you screw some in, it can mess with the sensors and another thing is that it makes HE boards sound thin

[fluid ravine]

10000%

[kind helm]

which is what you were going for :3

[fluid ravine]

Polyfill is really the balance of all

it helps with hollowness without really like changing the frequencies i'd say

[kind helm]

i have been using two screws on each side and 0.2 actuation

everything is fine so far

[fluid ravine]

Well at least it's working fine for you then that's good

[calm pulsar]

k need to order some polyfil

or is it with two Ls

lol reading patch notes for new venom firmware

"Fixed bug for operation error when connecting to iPad"

ipad gamers rise up

[kind helm]

i feel like you filled the case all the way up to a point the oring is like struggling to stay in place to reach that kind of bounce. that is some crazy bounce

[fluid ravine]

nah

@kind helm tip, too much polyfill is bad for your pcb

another side of affect of this is that when there's too much polyfill, the compression of the polyfill will be firmer so there will be less response when bouncing back

[paper bloom]

40ml of polyfull shld be enuf then add a otber 40

If it isnt enuf

[fluid ravine]

it's best to use polyfill to the point where it fills up the case but not to the point where you really have to compress it with the mount

[kind helm]

did you kinda lay them next to the stand off?

[fluid ravine]

just lay it over

if you're doing tray mount, make sure to space it away from the mounting points

otherwise since im using friction mount it doesn't matter

[kind helm]

icic

thank you kind sir :3

also i feel the reason why i can do with less screw has to do with salvation, the cushion at the bottom supports the pcb

[fluid ravine]

ima send you photo rq

[kind helm]

tyty, thats kinda nutty

[fluid ravine]

mhm

ok yall, young boi gotta sleep for school tmr

it's 1am rn

[kind helm]

college = no more going to class

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

im in sophmore for high school sooooooooooooo

[kind helm]

damn you young

cucu

[calm pulsar]

damn that's super good

what I found on AE

looks about right

[fluid ravine]

nuh uh

[fluid ravine]

heh

[calm pulsar]

it looks almost like if you had no oring it will still be mounted the same lol

[fluid ravine]

HAHA FR

[calm pulsar]

the oring is probably very soft

which is nice

mine was dense af

[fluid ravine]

Nah actually at this point the o'ring is just there to keep the module inside the case so it doesn't fall out

[calm pulsar]

polyfill mount

[fluid ravine]

cloud mount

[calm pulsar]

damn you immediately came up with a marketing name

hire this guy

[fluid ravine]

HAHA

[calm pulsar]

imagine hipyos shorts
this keyboard is mounted.... on a cloud??????

[fluid ravine]

i can finally get my hands on everything i ever wanted

[fluid ravine]

HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

that'd be goofy as shi for me

You see this board is mounted on oxygen and hydrogen

And it rains when there's too much of it, so def keep your mood up if you want this thing as soft as a cloud ☁️

changing keyboards based on moods be like

[calm pulsar]

im not in a good mood today... keyboard shorts itself

https://youtu.be/0wIpOoHGHww

need HE to sound like that😭

[crimson sky]

just sounds like longpole

[kind helm]

that spacebar is glorious

[calm pulsar]

not like HE that's for sure

[quasi hinge]

Gateron Smoothies

[whole wave]

does anyone have a photo of the frost vs ghost case for the 80he

like irl photos without overheads and crazy lighting

[snow escarp]

we should fill the keyboard case with asbestos

it might make the keyboard sound better

[crimson sky]

Mx blacks

[calm pulsar]

yeah I was thinking to get them from geon since they seem like a go-to switch for a lot of custom enthusiasts

[fleet quail]

is this not just going to generate static with any slight pcb movement/jiggle and fry the board?

maybe put a non conductive backplate between?

[fluid ravine]

Polyfill is made to be anti static, also anti flammable as well

Is the stuff that is used to make teddy bears btw

[untold wigeon]

Which one?

[calm pulsar]

it was a joke about Thackson's "cloud" mount

[untold wigeon]

Oh ok. Just woke up

lol

[calm pulsar]

@untold wigeon I heard the price on f2-60 can be around 300-400, so I when I noticed Luminkey LX60 is $139, I preordered it

looks nice and fits Venom60HE, and Wooting, with some drilling in the plate

oh wait no

Wooting wont, cause middle usb port

but again might be with some soldering I guess

[untold wigeon]

That’s sweet

@calm pulsar I grabbed mouse number 15 yesterday. Razer Dav3 hyperspeed. It’s like it’s made for my palm. So sweet.

Probably 15-20 percent smaller than the regular Dav3

[calm pulsar]

oh nice little anniversary lol
is it the ergonomic one?

the shape

[untold wigeon]

Yes.

Shape and tech it’s one of the best Razer mice I’ve ever tried

[calm pulsar]

yeah razer's mice are nice, unlike keyboards 😄

[untold wigeon]

Omg I have two Razer keebs. I hate them equally

lol

[kind helm]

nah razer mice also L

[calm pulsar]

I've been enjoying my viper v1 and v2, but now jumped to sora v2 and glad

[kind helm]

tried their wireless mouse, had to charge often, tried the famous viper mini, broke in like 3 months, i tried razer stuff 3-4 times over the years, always QC or just straight up bad :V

[untold wigeon]

@kind helm I’m specifically speaking about the Dav3 hyperspeed. This latest generation has been fine.

I own 4 of them. They are better than past ones

[kind helm]

OP1 8k

[ruby hill]

DAv3pro
Still top

[calm pulsar]

my gf still uses my viper ultimate which is from more than 2 years ago, and my viper v2 is also fine

I guess I got lucky

[ionic breach]

vv3 pro is funny tho

the top of the line razer that doesnt have a way to use it wirelessly

[calm pulsar]

how is that

[ionic breach]

without wire i meant

not wirelessly

[kind helm]

i typed vv3 i see like top 5 searches are all vapes

viper v3 pro?

[ionic breach]

ya

[calm pulsar]

I thought of viper v3 pro lol

[kind helm]

no cap

[ionic breach]

the dongle's wire isnt removable lmao

[calm pulsar]

ah lol

thats super weird

[ionic breach]

[kind helm]

think i tried deathadder long time ago, then some 80 dollar wireless mouse that was less famous, the viper mini was the only one that i would recommend to people but it broke hella fast(though i did buy it when it was the cheapest like 20-30 dollars). i think later i saw they up the price to like 50+ because of how many people praised it

L company

plus the software is literal bloatware :V apparently for a certain period of time they offered users to get some "free cash" if the users allow them to use the uesrs' pc for crypto mining

[polar girder]

Wait really?

So you need cable for dongle and cable to charge?

That’s dumb af

[ionic breach]

i want to beat them up

[crimson sky]

what

it is removable

[ionic breach]

i just realise how badly i phrased this

[crimson sky]

it's just USB-C

[ionic breach]

i meant as this would not work by itself

[crimson sky]

yea

[ionic breach]

like every other razer mice

[crimson sky]

because it is supposed to sit on your desk

otherwise you don't get enough signal integrity

that is what every manufacturer of high polling rate wireless mice asks of you

[polar girder]

lol oh yeah idk what you’re complaining about

[manic quail]

yeah ive got an xe-s from vaxee and its literally the same thing

[ionic breach]

i just want them to add another dongle

[crimson sky]

yea it's just about not dragging the wire around

[polar girder]

You mean like it doesn’t come with the wireless thing you can just leave in your computer?

[ionic breach]

for laptop use outside

[ionic breach]

ya

[manic quail]

oh like logitech do with their mice

[polar girder]

Gotcha.

[crimson sky]

logitech also want you to use the dongle extension they include

[ionic breach]

to me the high polling doesnt matter anyway

[crimson sky]

but if you see how much stuff they had to put inside the dongle you know why it isn't just some small dongle

[ionic breach]

the actual practical use of it with a laptop outside matters more

[crimson sky]

yea should have bought a different mouse then

[ionic breach]

i did

[crimson sky]

it's not made for that

simple as

[ionic breach]

got the gpx2

the shape of the vv3 pro was what i wanted

welp guess i dont have to bother with synapse now so im not that annoyed

logitech's onboard memory manager is pretty decent

[crimson sky]

stupid that it needed to exist but yea

too bad that my one logitech mouse is bugged and I can't set it's rgb anymore

so it just does whatever

aka weird pink and blue stuff but idk when it decides to do both and why it sometimes just is pink on one side

[manic quail]

tbf i went from gpx to vv3 pro and didnt like the swap at all, just didnt suit me. side buttons especially just felt awkwardly placed

went to the vaxee xe-s instead and its way more my bag

[ionic breach]

oh ya

and i wanted to buy a seperate dongle as a work around

but the ones that they sell doesnt work with the vv3 pro

[fiery salmon]

hey, I'm having trouble with putting the pcb and plate back together after installing screw ons on my 60he.

anw had a similar issue?

[raw oriole]

I ordered this keycap set:
https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-doubleshot-bow?srsltid=AfmBOoow5bnB2G9R0AUYkFaJsTHZihM7db_eu0PAbFFj45XHtzOrMmPV

Which came with this space bar set: https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-dolch?srsltid=AfmBOooS5d9prYLDy1KZalcQQXWXkot7-XlzTyfeceW1U8P_C_HIBY6h

They both say Doubleshot PBT Cherry profile but the red space bar is a different shape and doesn't properly fit with the other keycaps from the full set. Did I get sent a wrong unit or something?

[ionic breach]

the 6.25u should fit

its included no?

[raw oriole]

This is the 6.25. The main issue is that the space bar doesn't come back up all the way all of the time

But I don't think it's a stabilizer issue since the white space bar from the full set works perfectly

[ionic breach]

shouldnt be a wrong size than

it could be a defect

[raw oriole]

The profile is definitely different

But all of the red space bars are consistent, they're all a different profile than the white set

Same manufacturer, same material, same profile on the website, not really sure how it even could be different

[ionic breach]

might want to ask in kbdfans discord then

[raw oriole]

Yea fair enough

Its just weird

[ionic breach]

ya

[raw oriole]

I looked at them more closely and I think my eyes were playing tricks on me last night. I was also able to reproduce the issue with the white space bar and now I'm thinking maybe it's just too heavy. I have the 50g Geon Raws, do you know where I can get a heavier spring for them?

[ionic breach]

i can assure you its not too heavy

[raw oriole]

Its not coming back up all the way though, wouldn't a heavier spring fix that?

[ruby hill]

Jade gaming

[ionic breach]

might be the stabs

[ionic breach]

no

it also has the same issue as the maxes

switches has no gaming performance difference

just preference

[raw oriole]

I have knight v2 long pole stabs. They seem to be no different than the other stabs on my board

[ionic breach]

tho the good ones are lekkers v2, geon raw he and jade/jade pros

[glacial wind]

people call them trash more because of the sticky switch issue with them and the price

[ionic breach]

each individual stab could have issues

like lubing

[glacial wind]

take a video because what you're describing could be a lot of things

[raw oriole]

If there's too much lube could that cause it not to come all the way up?

[glacial wind]

jade max are pc housing on pc stem, making them sometimes stick to itself when pushing slowly in certain ways

[glacial wind]

your zoom made it harder to see lol

[raw oriole]

My bad, I was showing the light staying on meaning the key isn't fully depressed

[glacial wind]

take it from the side and the whole thing. from above zoomed in like that we can barely see anything

if you have another space bar, see if you get the same issue with that space bar as well

then you can at least narrow it down to stab vs space bar issue

[raw oriole]

I do have the same issue with another space bar, meaning it's the stabs. I'm trying to figure out what about the stabs would cause it though

But i was thinking about heavier spring in the switch would push the key back up harder and fix it, no?

[glacial wind]

too much lube, or installed too tight or installed crooked

heavier spring should basically never be the solution or issue

[raw oriole]

Gotcha

I'll try loosening the screws a little first

[glacial wind]

make sure the stabs are properly in the whole too

people sometimes screw them in thinking they're in but at some point they popped out and aren't sitting in the hole properly

[raw oriole]

I had that issue at first but spotted it before putting the plate back on thankfully

Space bar stabs were the first I put on the board though so maybe I didn't do them right at first

[ruby hill]

Overlube stabilizer or bent spacebar

[glacial wind]

not really. Some interesting things like ttc magneto pom and an upcoming variant of the geon raw with a fully closed bottom

but nothing too crazy

[raw oriole]

I can take the metal bar out of the stabs without removing the stab housings from the board right?

[ionic breach]

oh wait there is

[raw oriole]

To re-lube

[ionic breach]

a closed raw he actually

[glacial wind]

yeah that's the variant i'm talking about lol

[ionic breach]

i just read the first 2 words

[glacial wind]

i can't imagine it's all that much new or exciting though. At this stage it's hard to see big improvements on stuff

[ionic breach]

i dont have my glasses rn

most likely

[glacial wind]

i'll buy a few ttc magneto pom when it comes out just to see if they finally made a decent sounding non scratchy box stem

[ionic breach]

any big improvements require a large redesign

[glacial wind]

look forward to the most absurdly priced switch: https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=833314144967&scene=taobao_shop&spm=a1z10.1-b-s.w5003-25100843071.4.6d5b21f8aXtqHu

[tropic urchin]

If you’re interested in the Maxes I’d probably just go for Jade Pros or RAWs. They’ll end up sounding better/avoid any sticky issues.

[ruby hill]

Waiting the geon max

[glacial wind]

honestly you could buy ttc magneto rgb too if rgb is the goal. They sound awful but no sticky key issue and they are clear for rgb too lol

[ruby hill]

But they sounds sticky

[tropic urchin]

I’d go RAWs then

Feel wise from Maxes to Raws is like seeing the world blurry and putting on contacts for the first time

They’re kinda similar sound profile to Jades and feel like a perfectly toasted marshmallow when you press it. The one thing I really detest about the Maxes is their stem seriously sucks.

[thorn zealot]

They the best

[pearl meadow]

Would this product fit the wooting 2HE keyboard?

https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/1580131644/cherry-arrow-set-forged-carbon-with-gold?click_key=d12594c654e06e4f8b0ff5d5f5c10a2df0f5d2f2%3A1580131644&click_sum=3e750def&ref=shop_home_recs_4&pro=1

[stray tiger]

Yes

[pearl meadow]

Thank you 🙂

Not sure if a dumb question but the arrow key key caps are the same as the letter key caps, is that right?

Shape, interchangeability

For example, if I buy two sets of these arrow keys, could I place a set for the WASD keys

[stray tiger]

Shape yes, but not height

[pearl meadow]

Ahhh okay thanks all

I am very new to modding so this is very helpful 🙂

[stray tiger]

Ask the seller to make you a WASD set. he should be able to

[pearl meadow]

OH

What profile are the keys for the Wooting 2HE?

Ahh I think stock Wooting is OEM, so I guess there will be a minor difference

[formal ferry]

what profile has the best ergonomic?

[vagrant condor]

Kinesis advantage

[formal ferry]

oh mb i meant keycap profiles

[vagrant condor]

Usually taller profiles are less comfortable like SA but some people love them

[glacial wind]

milkyway hash line keycaps might be the best fit for raw zinc that i've seen

everyone jumping onto the semi translucent abs on pbt keycaps train

[cedar gate]

awesome mouse tho

[cedar gate]

PBTfans BOW is great

[raw oriole]

Yea i really like the set

[cedar gate]

i have the WOB with crosshair

[raw oriole]

I had to take the whole thing apart to get at the stabs but I took off most of the lube I had put on and now I don't have the space bar issue anymore. Thanks for helping me narrow that down everyone

[raw oriole]

Very nice, looks like a clean set

[chilly mural]

oooo, I want THIS. The pink looks soo good.

[glacial wind]

ttc magneto pom spotted in the wooting video

[vocal rose]

Wooting Collab with Owlabs for 60HE+ case

[random loom]

Why NOT 80 😭😭

[vocal rose]

OMG i want

[glacial wind]

Real question is how much will it be

[thin berry]

its a Owlabs tho, wallet is already crying

[vocal rose]

I hope its not too much

[glacial wind]

going by pricing of similar boards you better be prepared to spend a lot

There’s no such thing as a cheap owlabs board. It’d be under qk brand if it was cheap

[vocal rose]

that's a good point

[glacial wind]

Jelly epoch was what, $350-400 iirc

[vocal rose]

Yeah. I also had the Mr. Suit before. sort of the same price range

[glacial wind]

Honestly I’d love if they had an 80he edition too, but that would be ungodly expensive I bet lol

vento was real pricy

[vocal rose]

they probably would at some point in the future. considering the 80he is still quite new

[glacial wind]

future collabs would depend on how well this one sells I’d guess, that’s what Calder said on stream anyhow

[vocal rose]

makes sense

[marsh saffron]

600+$ case

[uneven cradle]

Might have to cop

[chilly mural]

That's more expensive than my upcomming 80he build

Heck, that cost as much as 3090 used

[marsh saffron]

I wouldn't be surprised if it costs even more

[chilly mural]

Yeh

Small user base do contribute to the price

Since by ~4 months, there's at mosy 70k people with 80he

[pliant kernel]

Crazy number lol

[glossy pagoda]

Owlabs makes luxury keyboards

Wooting is only "premium" not "luxury"

[marsh saffron]

The founders campaign alone has 23k buyers

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/living-the-dream-luxury-money-rain-cash-money-cash-gif-18578280

[pliant kernel]

Shame I did not join that one because I did not need a better keyboard for so many years until recently

[marsh saffron]

If I wanted an 80he I would've joined

I prefer the 60he though

[pliant kernel]

Ah, I see. I use 60he here

[marsh saffron]

Yeah performance wise they are essentially the same

8k doesn't matter

I mostly just don't care for the layout

[pliant kernel]

8k makes sense if some keys are in gamepad mode lol

Otherwise, I learned the higher polling rate from mice can make some games to lag out with sufficent mouse movement

[marsh saffron]

Still won't make a difference you can feel

[pliant kernel]

Note, I don't own any 8k mouse like that. I was merely recalling info from my research about purchasing a new mouse

[tulip rapids]

since i'll be modding the first time if i put too much lube on the wires for the stabs. Is it okay if i leave it on there because it eventually go away or i should immediately wipe it and lube it again?

[marsh saffron]

Yeah 8k mice with games that aren't properly optimized for it can cause severe stuttering and really inconsistent system latency

With keyboards this won't be an issue with almost any modern CPU id imagine

As it's sending far less inputs

[marsh saffron]

You can probably just leave it and spam your keys a bunch to try and get it to spread

[tulip rapids]

ty

[tulip rapids]

i guess once i remove the wires from the 60he+ i should check if the wires are straight as well i assume?

or do you only check if the wire is straight if you order them from a third party seller

[marsh saffron]

You could make sure it's straight/balance if needed

[dull kelp]

Yo guys, can you give me a website where to buy sexy keycaps for my wooting 60he+

i m looking for something full black without letters or anything

[tulip rapids]

appreicate your advice. Im super excited and nervous to mod my 60he+. So mb if the questions are simple and stupid😅

[marsh saffron]

It's pretty easy

I went in blind without any tutorials just fucking around and did fine

[tulip rapids]

yeah i been watching a lot of videos in it and switch testing videos and im going crazy because i been watching too much and they are all starting to sound the same lmfao. I need a break for sure lol

[marsh saffron]

Sound test videos are not good

[tulip rapids]

what would you recommend? me buying the switches and testing myself irl?

[marsh saffron]

They almost never accurately depict what the board/switch sounds like

[flat cobalt]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1649756249/ds-pixel-keyboardbreaking-the-monotony-of-keyboards

[marsh saffron]

It's kinda the only way to really hear what it'll sound like properly

[tulip rapids]

thats fair

[marsh saffron]

Isn't this basically what the finalmouse keyboard is gonna be too

[flat cobalt]

Idk

[tulip rapids]

i bought geon raw switches so definitely gonna test them out and compare them with my l60 switches

i got the see through tofu 60 case with the brass weight so im hyped af

[flat cobalt]

The acrylic one?

[marsh saffron]

I'm still patiently awaiting my x-ray set to arrive

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/yee-yeedinasour-dinasour-gif-4930781

still havent come in yet wth

[tulip rapids]

which one do you prefer? i saw they made a red one and it looks really good

[flat cobalt]

I bought an Acrylic and the Meteorite one, and I've just been using the Meteorite.

[tulip rapids]

that keyboard wouldnt survive the way i rage in comp games

[marsh saffron]

I have the ecoating white

I think

[tulip rapids]

ooouuuuuuu yeah that one looks very nice as well

[tulip rapids]

the newer one or older one?

[marsh saffron]

Idk

[chilly mural]

IF The polling rate is as advertised, on the touchscreen, could be good for rhythm game. A very niche rhythm game.

[marsh saffron]

Probably the older one

[chilly mural]

Actually no, it'll be amazing.

[tulip rapids]

i was gonna get the white but then i saw the acrylic one

but if too much rgb leaks from the keyboard case i'll most likely exchange it for the white case or meteorite one

[pliant kernel]

Huh, would the wooting uwu fill that role ?

[chilly mural]

I mean like, uhh. Project diva, and Hatsune Miku Colorful stage

[marsh saffron]

I wanted to go full white with black plate

Very happy with it, even more so when I can slap x-ray on it

[chilly mural]

Set a lot of the same button as the same key, slide your finger around and such.

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-christian-bale-smile-oh-yes-gif-14004598

wooting pbt keycaps?

[marsh saffron]

For now yeah

[tulip rapids]

very nice

clean af icl

[marsh saffron]

Curious how different x-ray will sound because it's abs

[tulip rapids]

make a video once those bad boys come in

[pliant kernel]

Ah, I see. I don't play rhythms games

[marsh saffron]

With my lovely blue yeti mic quality

[tulip rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-under-the-rain-gif-23841926

[chilly mural]

It's fine, wooting UWU is very nice at least. Wooting keyboard for 2x less, with their software support.

[proper plume]

LAN setup with custom wooting

[polar girder]

GLHF

[short birch]

does jade pro have more friction when pressed not in the center like jade max or nah?

[tropic urchin]

The Max friction comes from the PC to PC rubbing contact, Jade Pros shouldn’t have that issue

[short birch]

ohhhh ty!

[tropic urchin]

It does come with some RGB light bleed from the colored upper housing, but that’s about it

[untold wigeon]

I’ve seen the sideways keeb before. That would take some getting used to

[untold wigeon]

Is that the beastx max? That’s a chonky boy

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/alex-day-youtuber-influencer-represent-gif-10545406

[untold wigeon]

Super clean mouse... what switches did you get for the mouse buttons?

[marsh saffron]

Nah mini

[marsh saffron]

It's got mechanicals

The mini didnt have any options

[marsh saffron]

ended up not being able to order it

Will need to wait until later

[untold wigeon]

What made you choose the mini over the other?

[marsh saffron]

The color lol

I should've waited for the max my hands are too large for anything but ftip on it

[kind helm]

👀 anyone know how does wooting deal with different switch?
my enter key was not releasing normally, i thought i broke the pcb somehow in the process of modding. reset the keyboard then somehow its working again. i am purely guessing, but i think maybe wooting "calibrated" itself to work with my previous configuration and it was not detecting the strength of the magnet properly when i changed to a different config. reset made it redo that process. (again i am guessing here)
previously i only was trying to do no screws between pcb and plate and it was working fine. then the problem happened when i screwed all of the screws in.

[uneven cradle]

It should calibrate on boot of the keyboard the 0 point

And the bottom out is constantly being recalibrated during use

[untold wigeon]

From the perspective of the picture it looks huge lol

[untold wigeon]

Blue shell pink dot I’m pretty sure

[kind helm]

thank you. that is good to know

[viral vine]

what stabs are good for raws

i have normal cherry mx profile keycaps

[marsh saffron]

My beloved

[uneven cradle]

Stock are good with a bit of lube, alternatively knight v2s are a popular option

[untold wigeon]

Agree Huano switches are my favorite

[robust siren]

stock stabs are fine with stock keycaps on raws

[marsh saffron]

I hope I like the opticals on the beastx max

[stark spade]

Deskhero is having a bogo event?

[uneven cradle]

Have you tried ttc gold, my fav mech switch

[marsh saffron]

From what I know the nihil mechs are super stiff

[uneven cradle]

I've sampled a few

[untold wigeon]

I’m not the biggest fan of optical switches but they are ok

[untold wigeon]

Yes they are pretty good

[uneven cradle]

The defond DMP-1101 are interesting as well

[untold wigeon]

As I said Huano blue shell pink dot are the best in my opinion

[marsh saffron]

I'm still intrigued by the custom pulsar service

But it literally cost the same as a beastx max

....

[untold wigeon]

Big markup in price

[marsh saffron]

Yeah it's ridiculous

But I want to be able to choose my own scroll encoder so bad

[uneven cradle]

I mean the mouse is being hand assembled

[viral vine]

so i js need stab spacers then?

[calm pulsar]

are mechanical mice switches better in feel?

I always thought opticals were better since they are safe from having double clicks and are also marginally faster in actuation

[untold wigeon]

Same I need about 12 of the metal ES ones

[uneven cradle]

Don't even need those

[viral vine]

my backspace and shift keys get stuck

and they like tilt

[untold wigeon]

Much better imo

[uneven cradle]

Sounds more like a keycap issue then a stab issue

But yeah stem spacers would probably help in that scenario

[calm pulsar]

stem spacers should help with tilting, but not sure about keycaps getting stuck

could be tolerances of the keycaps

[untold wigeon]

Well built mice typically don’t have double click issues. Poorly built ones with tolerance issues do

[uneven cradle]

Depends on the switch and even then there's batch variation

[calm pulsar]

I see
okay maybe some day I will try out a mech switch on mice, cause I kinda went for sora v2 versus lamzu for the sole reason of sora v2 having an optical switch

[uneven cradle]

A lot of lamzu mice are optical also

Maya x is optical

[calm pulsar]

I was looking at lamzu maya at the time

seems like it has huano mechanical

well the sora v2 is an upgrade for me from viper v2 pro anyways
also even this optical switch feels better than the one on v2 pro, so all good for now 😄

[tropic urchin]

Maya X looks like an interesting VV3 contender, wonder if its different/better enough to try out

[calm pulsar]

oh maya X is a new one, dang
when I was choosing it wasnt around yet

yeah looks nice

[marsh saffron]

I still love my beastx mini

[uneven cradle]

Tempted to pick up the purple one

But I need to stop buying mice

[tropic urchin]

It was announced this summer, but got all the other colors released sometime in september I think

[marsh saffron]

Same

[calm pulsar]

btw jade pros arrived
in the post office for now, gotta collect it

[tropic urchin]

me and you giving gateron money on the way to creating the cursed Gateron RAW HE switch

I should change my name to that if thats my end game lmao

[calm pulsar]

true lol
would be ideal not to give em much but its fun to do frankenswitches😭

[devout sluice]

anyone know good and trustworthy websites for keycaps? and what type are the wootings? cherry profile pbt?

[tropic urchin]

idk I'll be damned if the Maxes upper housing goes to waste

spending more $ for gateron makes me upset, but I cant let them defeat me on my Jade quest

[robust siren]

wooting are oem profile

[marsh saffron]

Wootings are OEM, cherry works fine though too

[devout sluice]

oem? im new to changing keycaps pls help lmao

[calm pulsar]

well I can confirm max upper at least works with normal jades bottoms

[robust siren]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[devout sluice]

im in the chat lmao

[tropic urchin]

They're both PC so im hoping the Pros bottoms work with em

[kind helm]

oem is just different keycap profile, so the shape is slightly different

[devout sluice]

oh gotcha

they feel similar to cherry

[robust siren]

theyee taller cherries

[tropic urchin]

Ideally mine would be Jade Pro bottoms, Jade Max spring + Upper and RAW stem

[kind helm]

slightly taller than cherry, which would make it a bit more hollow and deeper sounding compare to cherry

[calm pulsar]

I will try it soon
actually want to see if I can replace the normal jade bottoms to jade pro's on my frankenswitch, for even better tolerances

[kind helm]

but cherry is pretty much what most people use

[tropic urchin]

siiiiick

[calm pulsar]

provided the tolerances are upgraded though lol

[tropic urchin]

i'll be waiting

I think your other jade frankenswitch sounded nice

[calm pulsar]

hope it doesnt introduce tightness issues again

[tropic urchin]

thank you for being the QC tester gateron doesnt have

[calm pulsar]

yeah I liked it, just was a bit annoying in some keys

[tropic urchin]

🙏

[kind helm]

👀 have you tried the longer spring in jade pro on geon raw. hoping that would be more snappy.

[calm pulsar]

lol tbf I might have brought gateron quite a bit of sales too😭

[tropic urchin]

the new jade springs are honestly pretty lit

[tropic urchin]

I remember this video when I first wanted to see what the jades sounded like

Summer flashback time

[calm pulsar]

I did try jade max spring in geon raw he, it was actually snappier, but the sound was noisier

but the jade max springs werent lubed so it is recommended to lube em

[kind helm]

the title is exactly what i said to my friend when i got the og jade

[tropic urchin]

oh man.. I might try this lowkey

[calm pulsar]

yes I immediately ordered jades as soon as I learned there's a switch with a closed bottom

[calm pulsar]

yeah I might even consider changing the pingless spring to the longer ones from maxes or pros, but I need to check how good they sound when lubed compared to pingless ones

I use pingless 62.5g so it still has a snappy return

[tropic urchin]

As bad as the Max stem is, I really appreciate the spring feel. The only sole W for those switches it seems

[untold wigeon]

@calm pulsar Huano Maya

[untold wigeon]

I just bought #15

lol

[fluid ravine]

Need a #3

Mouse being a bish to me sometimes

How y'all gents doing td

[kind helm]

OP1 8K is the goat for me. relatively decent price compare to the bs price of the wireless mouse

[fluid ravine]

I'm trying to get a SkyPad 4.0 Glass pad for my bday

I be wanting one thing then move on to another and forget about the old thang

[kind helm]

OW player? me val only nowadays, cloth pad gang rise up :V

[marsh saffron]

Lamzu grips are top tier

[fluid ravine]

I play val but I play on a super low sens

[marsh saffron]

I think I'm gonna use my glass pad on val today

Been using my zero xsoft again

For it

[fluid ravine]

. 08 1600 DPI btw

Sometimes 0.05

[marsh saffron]

I play 1600 0.16

.08 is wild

[kind helm]

zero xsoft owner too :3, i have been thinking about getting the soft one instead

[marsh saffron]

This feels somewhat slow to me still

[fluid ravine]

Hehe

[fluid ravine]

.16 good

Pretty balance I'd say

[marsh saffron]

I'm gonna try it on my glass pad

[fluid ravine]

Bett

[kind helm]

me instant lock jett type player. 0.112 1600dpi. too low can't turn 😦

[robust siren]

how the hell

[fluid ravine]

[untold wigeon]

Absolutely agree

[kind helm]

i think with the size of zero's XL, lowest you can go while still being able to turn 180 is around 0.1

[robust siren]

sounds weird but i play 600dpi@.45 in-game

600 is such an odd mouse sens

[fluid ravine]

Interesting

[marsh saffron]

I never use below 1600

[calm pulsar]

liking the shape

[fluid ravine]

I've only went from 400-1600

[kind helm]

1600 dpi at least i feel like, higher dpi easier to do micro adjustment in game. less jittery

[fluid ravine]

But been using 1600

[fluid ravine]

Yeah

[untold wigeon]

Agree. Great mouse. lol

[marsh saffron]

I did 1600-4000

[calm pulsar]

damn I only ever used 400 dpi cause I've seen it somewhere xd

[robust siren]

4000 💀

[kind helm]

i used to go 22000 dpi or whatever the max is, then use raw accel to drop it back to the normal dpi

[calm pulsar]

looks similar to my sora v2 😄

[robust siren]

i know you can use this to change how fast the cursor is

no matter the dpi

[kind helm]

but then apparently i found online higher dpi the accuracy of movement may drop i just went back to 1600dpi where most people nowaday uses

[untold wigeon]

Sora v1 and Maya

[uneven cradle]

I like the EGG mice but they still don't ship to NZ so I'd have to get it proxied but for the added cost I might as well just get something else

[untold wigeon]

Zaopin?

[fluid ravine]

have rawinputbuffer on for val

i feel like without it's pretty weird or inconsistent

[robust siren]

always had that on

[plush fractal]

hey has anyone here built with the tofu60?

[kind helm]

i think that needs to be on in order to work with higher polling

[untold wigeon]

Half the people here

[fluid ravine]

a ton dozen of people

[robust siren]

without rawinput i feel like the game frameskips

[plush fractal]

im having some trouble figuring out where to put the gold standoffs

[fluid ravine]

fr

[kind helm]

yea cause apparently windows doesn't know how to handle high polling

[robust siren]

gpx superlight

[kind helm]

the new ones i heard is meh

[fluid ravine]

these two spots

[robust siren]

"whats polling"

[fluid ravine]

we usually dont recommend using them

[kind helm]

the old one is decent when i had it :3

[robust siren]

yeah me too

[untold wigeon]

lol

[robust siren]

still using the original

[plush fractal]

so the middle one and the bottom right one

[fluid ravine]

yup

[plush fractal]

and dont use the 3rd standoff?

[robust siren]

is that the vv3p dongle thingy that razer did a weird reel with

[kind helm]

i got the wireless charging thing beneath my zero pad, think the added battery adds weight to it

switching op1 feels so light

but i heard from my friend who also use gpro apparently shit lasts for 2 months without charging, me wasted money

[untold wigeon]

Hyperpolling Razer dongle

[kind helm]

i always thought wireless mouse lasts like a week at most

[untold wigeon]

Viper one is different somehow. Can’t be paired with anything else

[kind helm]

less screw = less stiffness = softer typing = deeper sound

[fluid ravine]

There should only be two golden standoff placements, being middle and bottom right. But if the case comes with 3 then i suppose it's extra. Normally for universal 60% tray mount like these boards we tend to not use the middle one at all but the one near the spacebar is optional

[untold wigeon]

Depends on the polling rate

[plush fractal]

ok thanks

[kind helm]

yee, i am going back to wired. fck wireless, i dont even feel the wire with the mouse bungee.

[calm pulsar]

@tropic urchin just remembered that jade pros are actually delivered to a postamat (or whatever it's called), and it works 24/7

it's 4am rn here but why not just take a walk xd

[untold wigeon]

Wired and Wireless are on identical levels nowadays. Only difference is the wire

[kind helm]

wired in my mind given the same tech should always be lighter, wireless would always be heavier and needs to be charged.

but logitech does have that wireless charging thing, i am surprised to see that no other companies have that yet (or maybe there is i am just dumb :3)

[untold wigeon]

I have it. It’s really good. Power play

[kind helm]

the charging pad at max size from logitech only covers like 60-70% of the space on like a zero

[untold wigeon]

It’s small but not too small

[kind helm]

yea, i brought that with my gpro, never manually charged that once

i lowkey dislike it since i play aimlab scenarios that need the whole pad.

[calm pulsar]

wow the package from gateron is intact

[simple halo]

I got a op81k, g pro super light and just recently got viper v3. Honestly love the v3 but is there no input delay compared to the wired endgame OP Mouse

[polar girder]

What you mean by that last bit

[untold wigeon]

Op18k has less input latency.

[polar girder]

Like they both have none or nothing compares to op1 8k?

[polar girder]

M3K not even on that list. Obsolete

[calm pulsar]

jade pros come with qr codes, unlike maxes

[polar girder]

Tf

Why

Tf I need a QR code on my switch for lol

[calm pulsar]

authenticity or smth lol

[polar girder]

How to lube?

[calm pulsar]

not sure exactly

[polar girder]

Huh

Yeah maybe lol

[kind helm]

[polar girder]

They’re so expensive. Cant afford counterfeits lol

[polar girder]

No not that that new model of Zaunkoenig M2K

[calm pulsar]

yeah I ordered from gaterons ali store, but there were some listings that are cheaper

[polar girder]

The Zaunkoenig M3K

But it’s fine. I’m just trolling lol

[calm pulsar]

comparing jade pros to normal jades rn

they are an upgrade for sure, cleaner sounding and very smooth, I like how they feel

[polar girder]

The new purple frost op1 8k has an updated sensor

[kind helm]

can only find m2k unfortunately

[polar girder]

lol yeah all good

I have it

I know it’s fire

[kind helm]

💀 NAH! i just got my op1 like last month or something

[polar girder]

lol it doesn’t really matter

I think it’s just the fact that new sensor allows for motion sync at 8k

[kind helm]

true, the motion sync adds delay regardless of the polling rate right?

if i understand correctly

[polar girder]

Yeah idk really

I’ve never looked much in to it

Mine doesn’t have it so I don’t care lol

[kind helm]

😭

[polar girder]

lol it’s fine

Op1 8k black is goated

[kind helm]

ITS NOT FINE, PURPLE MATHCES WITH MY KEY CAPS

[polar girder]

Oh

WHOOPS

sell it used for $60 then

Ez

[kind helm]

i am lowkey thinking about getting the purple one then return the white one say they ship the wrong one

criminal!

i have this set

[polar girder]

That’s some hoe shit

The scam. Not the keycaps

[calm pulsar]

[kind helm]

i think it would work ngl

[polar girder]

I mean you do you

But don’t they also have your order history?

[kind helm]

buying the purple one, gonna sell the white one on ebay or something

[polar girder]

I would just say “ok. So sorry for the mix up. If you can send us an existing picture of your white op1 with time stamp we’re happy to send you purple one”

[kind helm]

nah they don't give a fck. i know some dirty little discord channels that do that kind of scammy things

[polar girder]

Yeah or hardware swap

[polar girder]

Gross

Ok anyway

[kind helm]

for more expensive s44t

like 2000+ laptop or even pc. i dont even know how they do those

[robust siren]

money

[limpid tinsel]

Would spray painting my wooting 60 he plate purple cause any problems? Also what spray paint Is best to use?

[kind helm]

50 dollars and buyer pays shipping, think thats a decent price

[calm pulsar]

@tawdry tree @tropic urchin jade max top is compatible with jade pro

the rgb diffuser is bigger on maxes btw, just noticed

@polar girder okay so the long but light spring of maxes/pros is gonna have to take the W from me

[kind helm]

have you tried the double stage on AE?

[calm pulsar]

I ended up not using them tbh, didnt notice any improvement

[kind helm]

man is researching for the keyboard community.

[polar girder]

Nice

[languid forge]

I want to change my keyboard sound dampenning thing idk (whatever is under my keyboard to change sound)

from polyfill to something else

what would be a good alternative that gives a "thocKy, creamy" sound

[kind helm]

cotton in my experience works well to make deeper sound. (tempest's tape mod is recommended in case whatever material you use may cause issue to the circuit)

generally thinner foam is better at blocking high frequency, so that would help with "THOCK" as well.

[languid forge]

I do have 3 layers of tape 👍

[languid forge]

interesting

so cotton > polyfill or cotton = polyfill

[kind helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N8k0u75eLQ

[languid forge]

will watch

ty

[kind helm]

I am not sure, i think someone here mentioned that polyfill doesn't effect the character of the sound and it is mainly for solving the problem with the ping, I personally never used polyfill. i think some people consider polyfill to be similar to cotton.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9iRjeTfuns shows the difference between cotton/ no cotton

[tropic urchin]

W

[tropic urchin]

that looks actually kinda sick

does the RAW stem work or is my Gateron RAW joever

[languid forge]

wow this is actually a big sound difference

I think ill replace my polyfill with cotton

TY

[kind helm]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01C29YFS4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?psc=1
these are the ones that i got for my own build

[calm pulsar]

raw stem works but if you use geon stem with everything else gateron, it has more wobble and chatter

but geon stem with black knight top housing works very well

[tropic urchin]

hmmm

[calm pulsar]

raw stem in black knight top also sounds more snappy on top out, which a lot of HE switches are lacking

including jade pro

but jade pro stock is very smooth, doesnt have max issues at all, actually a good stock switch

@novel bramble just got my jade pros and in my experience they are very smooth even if you press at angles

and the stock spring is better than on black jades

[tropic urchin]

How bad is the wobble/chatter

[calm pulsar]

I can compare it for you, but I need to know what kind of setup to compare

[tropic urchin]

I guess compare it to with pro stem

[calm pulsar]

so like jade pro w/ max top VS the same w/ raw stem?

[static tendon]

I'm a bit new to these switches but what is the most popular option? Jades, Jade Max, or Jade Pro? I'd prefer the most commonly purchased ones since the jades had a lot of hype upon their release

[polar girder]

Polyfill is short for polyester filling

[tropic urchin]

Out of the Jades, the pros are prob the best

[calm pulsar]

in my experience maxes sound a bit different due to diff materials, but a lot of ppl had issues with them being too sticky when pressed at an angle

I personally was gaming normally on them

jade pros on the other hand are super smooth

and sound cleaner than normal jades too

[tropic urchin]

Kicking myself for fading Pros 😭

[static tendon]

Appreciate the feedback, I'll keep looking into them but seems Jade Pro's may be a good option 🙂

[calm pulsar]

@tropic urchin
1st jade pro w/ max top
2nd the same but also w/ raw stem

2nd has more wobble also

[static tendon]

Also where can you purchase these updated Jade switches? Wooting doesn't offer them on their site

[calm pulsar]

gateron main website or aliexpress official gateron store

[static tendon]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DFGZ9D6L/ref=twister_B0DFH4LKML?_encoding=UTF8&th=1 I see amazon has them as a listing

but they're 63$ for 70 switches

Pretty steep on their pricing

[calm pulsar]

they are unfortunately

maxes are a dollar per switch which is insane

[tropic urchin]

what springs did you use arc for those

[calm pulsar]

both springs from maxes