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[fallen echo]

also looking at the stem and the magnet embedded in it, the bottom cutout has the size of the magnet

[stone flax]

raws and other traditional closed bottoms like jades:
reduced travel
bottoming out on the pole rather than the rails
work like a long pole
louder bottom out
lacks issue of pcb oil/lube leakage from housings
sound doesnt diffuse out as much as open bottoms

raws and what would be considered open bottoms like lekkers
hole

hmmm

ok sure buddy

[stone flax]

nope

bottom cutout diameter is smaller than the pole

which is exactly why it works more like a closed bottom

the stem pole hits the inner diameter of the bottom housing rather than going through it'

but i respect ur opinion

[fallen echo]

thanks for trying to tell me what I see. I can of course not trust my own eyes

[stone flax]

clearly not ig

all good

[fallen echo]

also the raws leaked on my PC plate. so much for that. I am sorry, but there IS variance between batches in quality. which is not really a problem.

[stone flax]

tru

rbo's and pbo's still feel nothing alike

biggest diff that settles the score

[tacit thunder]

Hello, does the tx ap screw in still have inconsistencies if installed on the 60he+, im new to modding keyboards and would like to change my stabilizers for long pole ones

[stone flax]

knights better bro

[stone flax]

what switches are u getting

cuz if ur getting jades from wooting theyll come with long pole stabilizer stems

[tacit thunder]

Im potentially getting the jades but im getting if from a local retailer so i dont have to pay for customs and shipping

[stone flax]

where u at

cuz raws better vro

[calm pulsar]

@stone flax doing blasphemy 😭

decided to lube my raws

[stone flax]

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

lmk

[calm pulsar]

also been cooking up this

[whole obsidian]

made my order 🙏

[stone flax]

lube kit with no lube

tweezers for some reason

[stone flax]

25 bucks

0_0

oh my drizzy

[south flax]

is it just me or does it take a lot of force to remove the stock switches from the 60HE

[kind helm]

you can unscrew the pcb from the plate

it should just fall off easily

[stone flax]

get a good switch puller

[south flax]

bet, methinks youre about to make this a lot easier for me

[kind helm]

then you can probe the switch from the bottom with your finger when you pull the switch up, it was easier that way

[south flax]

all ive got is the yellow tool that came with the keyboard

[kind helm]

what is a good switch puller

i always thought i just have skill issue 😭

[calm pulsar]

it’s great for keycaps, but itll break soon if you remove switches with it

[stone flax]

one of them gucci ones

[kind helm]

i was kinda of thinking gateron's expensive one, that one kinda make sense because i can grip the puller as hard as i want when i pull upwards without worrying breaking the switch

but 20+ dollars for a switch puller is kinda nutty

[south flax]

i just realized

im not reusing this plate or these switches

so why tf am i pulling them

[kind helm]

oh yea

the steel plate

[south flax]

its been so long since the parts came in that i forget what is what

[stone flax]

this?

this shit sucks

[south flax]

like which standoffs i should use

[robust siren]

for the case or plate?

[kind helm]

i thought about buying it, but i saw the reviews online i wasnt sure

[stone flax]

it sux

[lunar sand]

I have one and works really well.

[robust siren]

for the plate? all of them

[lunar sand]

Since 2 years

[stone flax]

this is better

[south flax]

Suddenly I feel like I’ve never touched a keyboard before

I should consider doing the plate and PCB first shouldn’t I

[lunar sand]

If the tool works for your use case it’s good 🙂 even a cheap one works Ehehe

[stone flax]

ya but the guys og request was what a good puller is

this the goat puller

[kind helm]

whats the brand or name for that? gonna grab one and see

how do you use this part, i always just put my thumb and index finger on each side. when the switch is too tight i kinda pinch harder which causes the side of the switch to break (depending on the brand/type, some seems to break easier than others.)

[south flax]

Do I need to use foam inbetween the plate and PCB?

[robust siren]

you dont need it

[south flax]

Bet

[robust siren]

its just for sound

[kind helm]

foam changes the sound, if i remember correctly, i think it makes the sound a bit more muted and lower pitch (filter out sound range of sound essentially, which specific range depends on the type of foam.)

[robust siren]

raw stem in black knights?

[calm pulsar]

with black jade bottom

[robust siren]

ah

[south flax]

Should I worry about the plate flexing if I screw it in without foam inbetween?

[kind helm]

a tiny bit higher pitch

[south flax]

I’m gonna have a lot of stupid questions I think

[kind helm]

nah

[robust siren]

no

just use the star pattern when screwing in things

[kind helm]

if you use screws then the board pretty much has no flex unless you really press on things then maybe it has a tiny bit

depends on how many screws you use

[calm pulsar]

yeah its brighter a bit, but just as good on wobble it seems

when I used gateron stems in this frankenswitch it was kinda worse and even too tight sometimes, so adding raw stems seems nice

[stone flax]

n

o

[vocal rose]

I think thats the switch puller from Wuque?

[kind helm]

https://www.amazon.com/Titanium-Switch-Mechanical-Keyboard-Switches/dp/B09Q5X582J?th=1

[kind helm]

thank you sir

18 dollars is still kinda crazy for switch puller, or maybe this is just amazon's price

[vocal rose]

this was free in Zoom75 before

[random loom]

Guys this big enough for 80he (idk any measurements)

[solemn ice]

ordering a stock wooting 60he soon, what are y'all recommendations for hopefully affordable mods

what do i do first

[violet fulcrum]

switches mostly

[solemn ice]

like what

i want the 0.1mm acuation still obv

[violet fulcrum]

will have the biggest change, geon raw he are pretty good deal

can get them pretty cheap on divinikey, if ur in the US

[solemn ice]

alr

[violet fulcrum]

theres other HE switches on milktooth.com too

with different prices and, most of them are pretty good too

[kind helm]

i feel like if you want decent out of box experience 80 is probably better

if you feel like modding 60 module

i dont see 60he being a good deal, the 40 or something extra dollars you pay for a steel plate, lekker switch, and plastic case all are pretty bad in my personal opinion

[marsh saffron]

60% >>>>>🤷

[solemn ice]

I wish I could get an 80, but I'm just outside of the shipping date. Im in the us for 2 weeks and it wouldnt arrive in time. And I DEFF Cant get $60 shipping

[kind helm]

60 is more expensive to make decent. 60 module 140, case 80, switch 40

[exotic venture]

Is polyfil a good way to add “thock”

[kind helm]

yes it makes the sound deeper

[brazen sparrow]

Is that a new raw HE switch

[calm pulsar]

the white one is normal geon raw he
the black one is a frankenswitch, made out of black jade bottom, black knight top and raw he stem

[brazen sparrow]

ahhh

[kind helm]

has anyone tried the latenpow strawberry, not sure if it works with wooting

i kinda want to try POM bottom housing see if that can achieve a deeper sound for the switch

[calm pulsar]

says this on the page
also since it's an open bottom switch, the difference is probably not that big

[untold wigeon]

Do keycaps affect sound orrr?

What bottom force should I get if I mainly game on my pc

They can depending on what they are made from. Force is preference

[solemn ice]

are the keycaps on stock wooting 60 good, or is it better to get another set

[robust siren]

i like my 40 gram raws

i wanted something light for typing and gaming

[quiet bay]

yes

both material and profile of the keycap affects the sound

also thickness of the keycap

[stone flax]

ya

[stone flax]

up to u

[covert pelican]

try the stock keycaps first and decide for yourself if you want to upgrade

[robust siren]

personally i didnt like the OEM profile so i decided to get cherry profile keycaps

[mystic drift]

hey guys i just ordered my 60he module and wondering if anybody has used TX ap stabs on theirs? should i go for the pcb or plate mount?

[calm pulsar]

module has good stabs already, no real need to change to TX AP
also pcb mount TX AP won't fit wooting plates

[mystic drift]

yeah thats true, ive seen positive reviews on the stock stabs, and thank you for the look out!

ill try on the tx ap stabs on a diff board in the future

[stone flax]

Get knight

knights better

to plate tolerance issues

less fussy

Or stick with stock gat stabs

[tawdry tree]

That would be? A Gateron Jade Pro/Jade Gaming top housing instead of the Black Knight’s? I’m excited for the Jade Gaming tbh, a lot of potential.

[tawdry tree]

Raw HE stem in Black Knight’s top? 🥴

[calm pulsar]

yeah 😄
it is very nice, doesnt have tightness issues but still sounds just as good imo

[calm pulsar]

my jade pros are on the way so I might try with them but for now it is black jade bottom, black knight top and raw stem

[tawdry tree]

That would kinda defeat the purpose though, Black Knight’s top is looser than Raw HE’s top so you don’t get the reduced wobble.

Do you have Deng Gods or Hejin/Grain Gold’s Sticky Rices?

[calm pulsar]

yeah the wobble with the gateron stem is nonexistent, but too tight

with raws the wobble exists, but I still like the sound change with black knight top, so I will be experimenting with these

[tawdry tree]

Oh, there’s a sound benefit. That makes sense.

[calm pulsar]

yeah, a personal thing most likely but still 😄

I don't have deng gods btw

I was thinking of ordering cause they are very cheap on ali

you think they're worth it for various frankenswitching? @tawdry tree

[tawdry tree]

You can try the Raw HE’s top, Deng Gods’ closed bottom with Deng Gods/Black Knight’s stem or Raw HE’s stem to see if you like the sound.

Gateron closed bottom vs Hejin closed bottom.

[calm pulsar]

oh that's cool, more closed bottom options to compare
I think this is the only grain gold switch with the fully closed bottom? if it's even made by gold grain lol

[tawdry tree]

There are a couple, Deng Gods, Sticky Rice, Neo Lavender and another one but Deng Gods is the cheapest.

It is by Hejin/Grain Gold, yeah.

and compatibility is good as well, both a KS-20 top housing as well as all Hejin/Grain Gold’s top housings work on a Deng God bottom.

[calm pulsar]

okay I will order a pack once my jade pros arrive, so I can use the bonuses for a discount, thanks for info!

[tawdry tree]

Np!

[calm pulsar]

also curious if the new geon switch is gonna have anything new, cause currently it seems similar to deng gods

though geon is making adjustments to the mold himself

[tawdry tree]

Let me know if the Jade Pro’s top housing fits a Hejin/Grain Gold bottom by the way. Can be a Black Knight bottom or whichever other one you have.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, in its current state it’s identical to Deng Gods, just a recolor but he said he was still changing something.

we’ll see soon enough though.

It’s supposed to be a cheaper option (Raw HEs are already cheap asf but ok) so I wonder if they’ll be cheaper than Deng Gods.

[calm pulsar]

just tried jade max housing on BK bottom and it seems like it doesnt fit properly, one of the corners isnt all the way

I believe jade pros and maxes have the same housings

[tawdry tree]

It should be a slightly different.

The Jade Pros aren’t dual rail either

[calm pulsar]

yeah I know, which is why I was surprised, cause I managed to fit the maxes top with normal jades, or even with the raw stem and jade bottom

[modern hazel]

Do any pbt caps work

[calm pulsar]

so I kinda thought the dual railesness was in the bottom, rather than top

[calm pulsar]

with the cross stem, yeah

[tawdry tree]

Yeah it is but the Dual Rail top housings (all KS-20U and 37B) don’t have those

[calm pulsar]

ah the middle notch isnt there on maxes though

[calm pulsar]

yeah true

[tawdry tree]

Yeah exactly

[calm pulsar]

I see, well I will try jade pros with BK bottoms and let you know

[tawdry tree]

Thank you!

[gaunt linden]

If i get the 80HE and i ordered the raws Should i get knights stabs?

[glacial wind]

not necessary unless you get the spacebar wobble issue

(and even then you could just use geon stab spacers for $5)

[gaunt linden]

Thank you

[knotty iron]

i personally just used stem spacers from geon and they worked perfectly

my spacebar doesnt wobble :D

i use the 0.5mm black spacers

[gaunt linden]

Where Can i buy the plate and that case?

[hard wraith]

Frog Mini

and its no longer in production

[gaunt linden]

Oh damn really i did not know that

Has anyone tried Geon’s pingless Springs?

The “HE compatible” ones

Is that the only option if I want different springs or any other ones are compatible too?

[hard wraith]

I think someone here have tried it

I think theres a sound test somewhere here

rmb hearing some

[hard wraith]

hmmm what plate should i use

[lunar sand]

anyone here swapped Jade's springs for heavier ones?

[white apex]

No

[low flame]

I gotta find a new plate and keycaps that are not cherry profiled fuck cherry profile keycaps!!!!!

I can go on a two hour rant why I hate cherry profile

Also I’m gonna get a new cord that can support the voltage since this case is kinda difficult to plug in

[hard wraith]

what plate yall have on your Wooting?

I wanna swap plates but idk which sounds the best

[kind helm]

replace clack with high pitch and thock with low pitch :3

[hard wraith]

Yeah I know but I don’t know which is best match for em HE switches

Cuz like for other keyboard I would just go for Pom cuz I use more thocky switches

I have no idea what jades or geon sounds like

[kind helm]

i personally think for HE switches, since the plate and pcb needs be screwed in, pc is probably better to, in a away, counter out that high pitch caused by the stiffness.

[hard wraith]

Hmmm

[kind helm]

switch sound watch videos online

[untold wigeon]

Yes

[low flame]

I have the jade switches

[hard wraith]

Any particular video you recommend or just find random videos

[low flame]

I need to upgrade the plate

I still have the steel garbage

[hard wraith]

Cuz I don’t see much plates+switches sound test

And it kinda makes me wanna buy all of em and make one

[kind helm]

i think most people prefer pc plate

fr4 for me was already too high pitched

i dont even dare to try the carbon fiber plate

[hard wraith]

I got Jades on fr4 with the Tofu for like a week then I swap to a Holy60 cuz I swap it to another board and I haven’t touch a thing since then. I recalled it sounds fine with some thicker key caps

[kind helm]

if you have the original jade i think you really should swap to raw

not that expensive and personally MUCH better

unless you dig that clack

[hard wraith]

I have it on my 60 I’m looking for stuffs for my 80

I have some jades pro on it rn but I don’t dig the sounds so I kinda left if there

[kind helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NSQ8H2QkRw

after around 11:06 comparison between 80 stock and modded with raw

[hard wraith]

I’ve watch that video but I still couldn’t put my hands on Jades pro or raw

[kind helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju4kxa8C0_c

[hard wraith]

Oh thx

[fallen echo]

they are both more high pitched, definitely clacky. not thocky.

[hard wraith]

Are there thocky he switches

[fallen echo]

I dont think so, but there is variance in the pitch of these switches, like the original jades are noticably lower pitched than raws

[kind helm]

just base on the video, lekker v2 seems to be the one that has the lowest pitch

but i dont know how good lekker v2 is, after using the original lekker i dont wanna try :3

[mighty egret]

raw he sounds deeper than jade and jade max

[fallen echo]

see how we even have discrepancies in perception? Because for me, regular jades sound deeper than RAWs

[hard wraith]

ngl imma buy all of them and try :/

[fallen echo]

the reason is likely that we are using different material in our keebs that affect different frequencies.

[fallen echo]

now you know why switch tester sets are a thing 😉

[kind helm]

lowkey delusional

[stone flax]

switch testers are a sham

[lunar sand]

So is there any particular aspect I need to pay attention to in terms of which spring or can I get for example the ones in the wooting website ?

I also saw some on Ali that seemed cool

[untold wigeon]

I bought the Wooting ones. If you are getting different ones make sure they are HE compatible. Just figure out what weight you want

[untold wigeon]

Check compatibility

[lunar sand]

Yeah I need 60-70

[wintry rune]

is it normal for the raws to be hard to take out or did i just receive a bad batch, also can a plate swap cause the stabs to feel off or is it not related

[lunar sand]

Yes yes they need to be HE they I know eheh

[lunar sand]

Mines were hard to install. So I guess they are tight to get out too

[untold wigeon]

No that’s normal. They fit very tight

[wintry rune]

did u need to swap stabs when installing the raws? i find the keys with the stabs very heavy and less bouncy when using the raws compared to jades and lekkers

[lunar sand]

I did not but I already have tx ap installed

[wintry rune]

what is tx ap

[lunar sand]

A brand/model of stabs. Did not use the stock ones

[untold wigeon]

Switches should have no affect on the stabs unless you went to a much heavier spring. Perhaps your stabs are binding

[wintry rune]

i just installed the ge raws from kbdfans didn't do anything related to springs

can it be a plate swap issue? i swapped to fr4 from kbdfans also

[untold wigeon]

I would try tuning your stabs.

[lunar sand]

I also have that

I has no issues tbh 😦

[wintry rune]

how to do that

[wintry rune]

ig im just unlucky or messed up something as it is my first time modding a keyboard

[untold wigeon]

https://youtu.be/xlSIIZqyQR0?si=7dN1vHNHEFhydgCy

[untold wigeon]

It’s definitely possible

[wintry rune]

tyy 🖤

[lunar sand]

Yeah I mean tuning the stabs it’s always good

[untold wigeon]

No problem

[lunar sand]

But you should not have any issues

Even without tuning them

[wintry rune]

hopefully it fixes the issue as im very sensitive to small details it is driving me crazy

i had to install jades into the keys with stabs just for them to feel less annoying

[lunar sand]

It’s more about sound than anything else. Unless your stabs were a mess ( not straight)

[wintry rune]

they sound great

[lunar sand]

Heavy stabs usually is too much lube

They feel mushy

[untold wigeon]

The steel plate is much more forgiving and tolerance isn’t as tight. Stabs being out of balance would be amplified in the fr4 plate

[lunar sand]

And you can notice the movement

[wintry rune]

they are stock stabs and the issue only happend after swapping plate+switchs+tape mod

[wintry rune]

yeaah that is the feeling i just didn't know the right word for it

they feel mushy and less bouncy than the rest of the keys

i can't swap back to jades as the raws sounds amazing but this feeling on the stabs keys is very annyoning

someone suggested to me that i get long-pole stabs. i found some but how do i know if they were compatible with the wooting or does it not make difference?

[outer finch]

What's the 80he's pcb thicknesss? Thanks

[lunar sand]

Long pole has to do with the stab movement amplitude

Usually if you use a long pole switch with a normal stab

[wintry rune]

is the raws considered a long pole switch ?

[lunar sand]

The amplitude of the stab will not allow it to bounce back to default position

[stone flax]

overlubed

[lunar sand]

But he says he did not tune them or lube them

Or am i mistaken ?

[wintry rune]

but i didn't do any lube work on them 🥲

yeah i just swapped them from the stock steel plate to the fr4 plate

[lunar sand]

Are the stabs really tight on the fr4 plate ?

They they “clicked” when you installed them on both sides ?

Fr4 fit is way tighter

[stone flax]

https://youtu.be/6Yz-UzTY8_I?feature=shared

[lunar sand]

You need to apply extra pressure

[stone flax]

that or plate tolerances

[wintry rune]

well currently the left shift key is fine but has a rattle sound and feel to it, the right side of the board is mushy. the space is ok

[wintry rune]

yes they did click

[lunar sand]

When you screw in the plate. Same pressure on screws all around right ?

Almost feels the plate is not flat

[wintry rune]

i think so. the tape mod made some of the screws not tight as the rest

i will remove the tape mod and check

[lunar sand]

Hmmmm

[wintry rune]

maybe i did a bad tape mod

[lunar sand]

I would do that

[wintry rune]

the holes might be not good

[lunar sand]

To remove any pressure points you may have

And go from there

[wintry rune]

ok will do. thank you everyone ❤️

[untold wigeon]

My guess is the wires are out of balance.

[wintry rune]

i will go to that also

[untold wigeon]

Pom is where it’s at

Hypekeyboards

60 or 80?

Hype then. It’s pretty tight

30 + 11 shipping

[lunar sand]

Hope FR4 plates are released for 80HE on the long term

[stone flax]

alu better bro

[lunar sand]

I’ve tried them all

[stone flax]

fr4 sucks

😂

[lunar sand]

I prefer the sound of the fr4

Opinions

🙂

[stone flax]

yeah crazy how opinions work

[untold wigeon]

Yes

[untold wigeon]

Too stiff

[stone flax]

thats cuz skibidifans carries that or cf

if they carried even two more plate options lol

[calm pulsar]

hey, I just woke up, yeah that's a frog mini, no longer produced, but there might be some stock on Cafege (AU) soon

the plate is for Geon Venom60HE pcb, so not compatible with wooting

[calm pulsar]

skibidifans is wild

[lunar sand]

Again opinions. I prefer that feeling. Tried PC, alu, brass and FR4. I missing the carbon. But yeah although I can use and understand the pros and cons of each one of those I ended up going fr4 and not looking back

I still have the others here Ehehe

For the 60HE

[stone flax]

no cyappp

This is also depending on the board and mount

my preferred mount literally depends on everything else

[lunar sand]

I’m a top mount fan myself

[stone flax]

so yuh maybe on the 60 id fw fr4 more than another board compared to cf

[stone flax]

pp

[lunar sand]

So you understand why I prefer stiffer feeling

[stone flax]

i love ppl

[stone flax]

True

idk

i like balancing stiffer mounts with a softer plate and vice versa

and alu just for general

[calm pulsar]

hey @untold wigeon by the way, I have seen what the price used to be for f2-60 in 2022... let's just say it aint budget

but this time geon said it's going to have a nicer price, so there's hope

[untold wigeon]

I hope so

[calm pulsar]

I started to like the alu with no foams sound after you suggested building with the alu plate

it's nice and lively

[stone flax]

deffo doing alu for the venom

Over fr4

💯

[untold wigeon]

That’s up to you

[lunar sand]

Totally normal 🙂 I tried some different mounts and top was the one I liked the most … don’t like the gasket feeling but again very personal

[calm pulsar]

what is your current setup?

[stone flax]

which implementation

of gasket

[robust siren]

i believe hes running raws on CF in a tofu60

[calm pulsar]

I see, well in case of stiffer plate in a tray mount case I would go for the friction mount, to make it softer

@viscid tusk is yours tray mounted?

yeah I think the friction mount is a nice change, I liked it when I switched to stiffer plates

big oring around pcb and then you slide it all in the case without using screws to mount

so it is held in there by friction

[lunar sand]

What do you mean which implementation ?

[stone flax]

beans, strips, socks, etc…

may be easier if i just asked which case

[lunar sand]

Ahhh

[calm pulsar]

in this case maybe softer plates like POM or PC is nicer for sound and feel

[lunar sand]

Ok what type of gaskets. Only strips

[calm pulsar]

but it ofc depends on what you're looking for

[kind helm]

pc

[calm pulsar]

is your wooting originally a module or prebuilt?

cause module comes with a PC plate already

which should be deeper than CF

ah I see, well there are options for PC plates from Wooting or on aliexpress for example

Wooting sell white and black ones

[lunar sand]

Depends. My PC plate from wooting was mehhh

Super loosen

[calm pulsar]

yeah it is probably due to softness, but softer plates should sound "deeper" cause they are not as lound and reduce higher frequencies

[lunar sand]

Of course

Dude. Try it

I guess if you don’t try it

That question will not be answered for your personal experience Ehehe

We can tell you 1001 things. You need to experience it

[calm pulsar]

true, I think the feel that you get when typing also matters a lot, which is impossible to convey through sound tests

[lunar sand]

Yeah man. I have tried the PC, alum and fr4

It’s very personal

😂

Well that’s 2 different things that can’t be compared eheh

Which mouse ? A plate is “cheap”

Mouse nowadays not really

Eheh

[calm pulsar]

btw don't forget to consider if you want a white one or black one, so that you don't have regrets later 😄

I personally like black plates cause you don't see them under the keycaps, but the white one allows for brighter rgb

[lunar sand]

What mouse ?

[lunar sand]

True. When i got mine there was only the white one 😦 also prefer black since I don’t use leds eheh

[hard wraith]

yooo beastx thats a fire mouse

[robust siren]

i got fr4 and i just see the corners of the white raws poking out under the keycaps xd

[calm pulsar]

its nice that geon is making a full black switch

[lunar sand]

This is mine from 1 year ago. No changes other than the switches

[calm pulsar]

nice keycap set

[lunar sand]

Super expensive since I’m in Portugal and had to buy it from the US

Ehehe

[calm pulsar]

yeah shipping costs can be insane in this hobby
im from Russia so sometimes my stuff has to travel crazy routes before getting to me 😄

[lunar sand]

Wooofff totally

And taxes

And right now I imagine the routes to Russia 😦 or you get it from Asia or if not they need to go around the globe 😦

I was buying some headphones from a Russian company 1 year ago. They increased the time for deliver by 1 month

I had to cancel it

Pffff

[calm pulsar]

when things start selling on aliexpress it is way easier cause they ship directly and I can pay with russian cards

but for stuff like gmk or my frog mini I have to get someone to pay for me and mail forward it from US or other countries

[calm pulsar]

oh rip, what company was that?

[lunar sand]

Kennerton

[calm pulsar]

oh they have fancy wooden stuff, cool

it should, plus it has standoffs built into it like on the steel plate, so less hassle

[lunar sand]

The drivers are really good. The wood mehhhh Ehehe

Good question. Can’t recall ehehhe

I think it’s the same screws but I truly don’t remember

[robust siren]

you can just use the screws that were used to hold in the steel plate on the prebuilt no?

[calm pulsar]

not sure if it affects the sound, but I like how they look, also getting a custom electric guitar made with a beautiful wooden top

you can just use whichever screws hold your stell plate right now

they are the same size
if wooting plates comes without screws then you're good

[ruby hill]

I swapped the 80he’s switches to raw he and built a venom he with lekker v2
NTR

[jade narwhal]

is lekker v2 work normally on venom？i also build venom but with geon because i didnt see hejin in the switch selector in the web driver

[ruby hill]

if set to 0 deadzone sometimes does double click

[untold wigeon]

if i buy the 80he module i can use the softwere?

[jade narwhal]

ofc

[untold wigeon]

which is my first custom keyboard and i want to get switches which switches are good?

[jade narwhal]

lekker v2 or jade series or geonwork he

sry wrong reply

[untold wigeon]

okey dokey

[jade narwhal]

i recommend lekker v2 most if its ur first magnetic keyboard

[untold wigeon]

yes it is

[jade narwhal]

because lekker is the most compatible one to wooting

[untold wigeon]

ok and how is the speed if its work like that i don't really now

[untold wigeon]

It's too loud

Do you have something quieter?

[fallen echo]

iirc there is a silent jade switch in the plans. apart from that, most HE switches are kinda similar in their overall volume. you can always of course dampen the case, the pcb and the switch housing/springs

[untold wigeon]

i can get a switches from another company?

[fallen echo]

if I am not mistaken, all HE hotswappable regular profile switches should be compatible with the wooting PCBs

but yes, you can. plenty here use GEON RAW switches, I have also seen people use Gateron Jades in its variants, of course you will also find other HE switches used

[uneven cradle]

The silent jades aren't very silent from what I hear

[untold wigeon]

I’ve been looking at gaming laptops lately and I was checking out Amazon, is it just me or are their prices totally out of control? High spec models. i9 4070-4080 models.

[fallen echo]

I would claim "Gaming laptops" have always been ridiculously priced

[untold wigeon]

I’m talking like $3,600-$4,000+

[stone flax]

no

[uneven cradle]

Just how it be with gaming laptops trying to fit that much performance into a tiny package

[untold wigeon]

But like Best Buy has the same spec laptops for like 30% less

[uneven cradle]

I just stay as far away from gaming laptops as I can

[fallen echo]

care to elaborate? Which ones would not be compatible?

[ruby hill]

Lekker v2 kind of quiet side I think
Raw he, jades def loud side

[stone flax]

ks-37 for example, outemu, raeshas - anything with a far enough flux that causes issues, things with the a polarity or magnet orientation that doesnt allow it to be used

[untold wigeon]

I haven’t had a decent laptop in like 10+ years. I kinda want one. Figured I might as well go balls out

[stone flax]

hope this helped big bro

[uneven cradle]

We have a list for reference #🪛│modding_faq message

[fallen echo]

gotcha. Thanks for the clarification!

[uneven cradle]

I tried again recently, was not worth. Still hot, loud and expensive

[untold wigeon]

Yeah that’s a worry of mine too. Top tier parts in a laptop gonna be like an easy bake oven

[uneven cradle]

And that was with a 3060 can't imagine what a higher watt card would be

[untold wigeon]

@uneven cradle especially not worth it when I can do this at micro center for $1000-$1700 less.

https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder-amd.aspx?load=61357cc3-2cda-4ed6-b965-94a525c03cc0

[spice bluff]

;*

[forest crag]

Hey Wooting Fans :DD I did a quick sound comparison of some switches and thought it might be beneficial to some of you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKID0ORh1xk

[untold wigeon]

Good lord those TTC switches sound gross

[fallen echo]

much appreciated!

[untold wigeon]

Great video. Subbed

[forest crag]

YES xD

[untold wigeon]

Your video needs to be pinned to show people the difference that recording equipment can make in a sound test

[forest crag]

I did a soundtest of different plates a while back and been told that. So now I include the camera mic which is a bit further away and the small diaphraghm condenser which is about 6-7 inches above the keeb.

[tropic urchin]

I think this is one of my favorite sound tests so far for the current switch lineups, very clean sounding

[forest crag]

Thank you 🙂 i wish i would have a way to further reduce my desk reverb tho haha maybe 10 deskmats for the next one

[fallen echo]

agreed. it sounds very close to my own experience with the sound profiles, so its a really good benchmark

[inland fern]

is there a tactile he switch

[hollow bear]

anyone know if there are different colors available for these keycaps

[untold wigeon]

No

[inland fern]

Ok

[harsh dove]

Great video, I also share pretty much all the same opinions about those switches

[hollow bear]

I think I saw one acc

[hollow bear]

https://www.gloriousgaming.com/products/panda-he-switches?srsltid=AfmBOorkgwHYkI53-1_HytK6QBEpMYLSCHQyffTgTPtoVqlmsQAfSExk

[inland fern]

Thx

[hollow bear]

it's for gmk boards tho

so idk about tactile for a wooting

[inland fern]

That sucks

[stone flax]

yea

will suck tho

[slim drift]

does ANYONE know the best switches to make my wooting sound anything like this 1st keyboard with the hyacinth switches,I really really like the creamy sound but I want to know if there are switches or mods I can do to make my wooting sound like this with an unlimited budget https://youtu.be/l4XclA2-FKg

anything close would be fantastic I just want to make sure I wont regret buying any switches

[mint pasture]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_5fKeRp5o48

Which do you prefer? Lekker V2, Jade, Jade Pro, Jade Max Comparison on Wooting 80HE. I find the Geon RAW sounds very similar to the Jade Pro's which are my preffered sound profile.

[stone flax]

this aint happening tbf

[slim drift]

ANYTHING close

[stone flax]

not really no

its he

[analog jetty]

what is reading, i don’t understand

[calm pulsar]

what is the creamiest switch for wooting

[untold wigeon]

Dumb question, but wooting 2 He comes with a plastic case? Is there any aluminum case or is not moddable

Alr thanks

[tropic urchin]

TTC Magnetos 👑

[visual moat]

will there ever be a silent he switch

[rapid aurora]

do jades require custom stabilizers or would the stock ones work, cant remember if i saw a vid on it or not

[uneven cradle]

Should be fine in 99% of cases with stock

Seems to only be an issue with cheaper keycap sets

[calm pulsar]

honestly I noticed it even with gmk, but only if I press on edges of keycaps with force

with long pole stabs even if I do that everything's okay

[south flax]

day 2 of stupid questions: in the Holy60, do I use the torx screws or the cross shaped screws for attaching the PCB to the case?

[stone flax]

yea

[stone flax]

either works

[south flax]

Alright

[untold wigeon]

Anyone know a date when the 80he is finished with preorder and in stock?

[uneven cradle]

Could be quite some time if it follows the same path as the 60he

[untold wigeon]

Sounds about right

[south flax]

how the fuck do yall have the patience to lube switches

im one switch in and im debating whether its worth it or not

[rapid aurora]

😂 😂 😂 😂

[south flax]

unless my fingers are that greasy, it looks like the geon raw he switches come pre lubed

[forest crag]

Yes gateron will release it soon but apparently it’s not that silent xD

[knotty iron]

just pitched a neat idea

[tropic urchin]

The first 20 or so aren’t bad, it’s all of them after you hit the mid way point is when it starts to suck

[knotty iron]

i really want some staff at wooting to see it

[south flax]

spill the tea

[tropic urchin]

You could get away with only lubing the springs, and leaving everything stock. A lot love it stock, so will be interesting to see how many I do when I get mine on Monday

[knotty iron]

oh wait i wasnt in the 80HE chat my bad

i'll send the link there

[south flax]

right now im gonna leave them stock and see how I like them

its not like the lube is going anywhere

[tropic urchin]

Very true. I might end up doing mine out of boredom til the white zinc arrives 🥲

[south flax]

oh and im lubing only the spacebar switch for shits and giggles

[broken flame]

not sure where to ask this but does anyone know where to get replacement rubber feet (either original or 3rd party) for the alumaze?

[knotty iron]

is it ok if i send the link to my discord post in here or nah

[south flax]

thats a good question

[knotty iron]

wooting probably through email

[broken flame]

already sent an email but was curious if i missed some obvious spare parts section on the site or smth

[south flax]

time to use that post card

[broken flame]

true

asking bc i bought an alumaze secondhand and it was missing the bottom two rubber feet and only had the angled back feet

[vocal rose]

if you want to just have feets maybe something like this would do? https://keeb.io/products/skuf-silicone-rubber-keyboard-feet

[south flax]

keeb.io!!!!

[vocal rose]

i know its not the official feet but I guess its better than scratching the bottom of the case

[broken flame]

these look good

[opal umbra]

keyboard enthusiasts spending hours modding their board to get a 1 decibel difference (i just did that)

[vocal rose]

thanks for this

[paper bloom]

RAW HE all the way

[near barn]

has anybody tape modded their Wooting 80he? specifically with a PCR case? was wondering if anyone noticed a difference/deemed it worth the time to do it

[knotty iron]

i mostly did it to improve the rattle and performance of my switches

Raw HE all the way

[vocal rose]

Im really tempted to get the Raw HEs 👀

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/temptation-is-very-hard-to-resist-father-julius-wonka-movie-so-tempting-hard-to-resist-gif-8233968579605244931

[south flax]

All done!

[untold wigeon]

Anyone here ever have a microATX pc?

[untold wigeon]

Welcome to the club

[opal umbra]

Thanks

Any club privileges in here

[south flax]

mood

[proud mesa]

hey guys, was thinking of doing tapemod on wooting. Is keebtape gonna work fine?

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/hurry-up-judge-judy-time-is-up-gif-8613963527341701454

[vocal rose]

adding it to my cart for now

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/rugby-yay-gif-3156747878755757137

[calm pulsar]

[jade ledge]

I did and imo worth the 10min since it makes the keyboard sound more thocky and I left the pad in mine and it closes with no issue

[near barn]

to clarify this is with the PCR case and not the zinc case right? i was watching wootings video on youtube and i only heard a difference with the zinc case

[jade ledge]

yes i have a black PCR, the difference is less significant than the zinc, but I do think it is worth it since it doesn't take much time and I had the tape at home so it was essentiallly a free improvement

[near barn]

forsure, thanks for the input! gonna take the sticker off from the board and tape it up

[jade storm]

@stone flax

[calm pulsar]

he replied to that xd

[stone flax]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-tom-hardy-marvel-rage-antihero-gif-11732259

[stone flax]

me when the board that needs standoffs and has a different switch mechanism he board doesnt sound like the thin flexcut pcb 5 layers foamed mx long pole keyboard

🤯

[calm pulsar]

ANYTHING close to creamy????

[robust siren]

NO

NO

[stone flax]

creaMY

[robust siren]

NOT THIS VIDEO

[stone flax]

its so creamy tho

[robust siren]

why do you just have this saved

https://tenor.com/view/get-some-help-michael-jordan-stumpy-ask-for-help-call-for-help-gif-17800408

[fluid ravine]

Keep yourself safe

[robust siren]

kay why ess

[stone flax]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-and-creamy-jill-dalton-the-whole-food-plant-based-cooking-show-nice-and-smooth-super-buttery-gif-6901867194798380413

[calm pulsar]

I assure you I'm normal and can be trusted with your keyboards😋

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-nuh-uh-scout-tf2-gif-12750436057634665505

[stone flax]

next time someone ask for creamy im just linking them a can of whipped cream

maybe that teaches them something

[fluid ravine]

real

[low flame]

Does anyone know how to make your cap lock not violate your eardrum?

I use jade switches because people told me to use them

[robust siren]

shove some foam in it to get rid of the hollow-ness

oh

the capkey

[low flame]

Ight bet

[robust siren]

nvm

im not sure why yours is so loud

i mean ig you can try shoving foam into the keycap but its not gonna be a lot since its such a small cap

[low flame]

I have foam underneath the case I used a burgermount a brass weight in the case

[robust siren]

if you put too much into the cap, it can interfere with the switch and make it feel mushy

[low flame]

@stone flax

[robust siren]

i think jelly/gel tape would work better for things like this

[low flame]

I used painters tape for tape mod

[robust siren]

oh i meant inside the keycap

[low flame]

Ohhhh okay okay

[robust siren]

not in between the pcb and case

[stone flax]

add more lube to the switch

get thicker keycaps

[low flame]

I’m trying to find thicker keycaps that are not cherry profiled

Recommend any websites to buy keycaps?

[ionic breach]

a desk mat

[ionic breach]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

based on ur region

[low flame]

Canada

[calm pulsar]

friction mount might help the keys on edges sound less hollow too

[fluid ravine]

yeeee

most outer keys with tray mount tend to sound hollow or pingy

esp the keys near the mounting points i'd say

[calm pulsar]

caps is also a wide key that has to stabs so it contribues to that gnarly sound

[fluid ravine]

mhm

for the most part

just gotta deal with it lmao

[ionic breach]

[pliant kernel]

I have been noticing the majority of keycaps in many 3rd party stores aren't see-through, does it hamper the rgb effect ?

[calm pulsar]

if they arent see through then.... yes?

[stone flax]

.........

lets really think

for this one

[pliant kernel]

Eh, I shall continue my research on this topic by myself

[quasi hinge]

I get you

I play in the dark due to glossy oled and need backlit keycaps

very few hence why I stick with the OG wootings

[pliant kernel]

Ah, I also happen to have glossy oled as well.

[quasi hinge]

I figure its all the same in the dark 😂

[pliant kernel]

There's another option. I have DSA blank caps but I need to travel a bit to retrieve it.

[quasi hinge]

If you can handle the lack of symbols etc go for it

but I need to see letters / symbols etc since Im a noob

[pliant kernel]

Ah, I am well used at touch typing and remembering which key to press if I need some specific symbol

[glacial wind]

man still nothing from that ttc page for the pom magnetic

just says 'removed from store' still

[fluid ravine]

well it should as expected

jk

[hollow parrot]

Anyone that replaced their stabilisers on the 80HE. Did you replace the white poron pads or just left them on?

[fluid ravine]

Some or most people would take them off as these stabilizer pads can tend to result into a not strong but padded sounding stabs, and by chance it can feel mushy as well.

[untold wigeon]

I need feedback for this build, woofing 60he+ module, Alumaze case, geon raw he switches ( 50gf is sold out, should I go for 60 or wait till 50 comes into stock) And for the key caps, I got them from amazon, I’ll try find them.

I haven’t ordered anything yet though

[ionic breach]

amazon keycaps?

you might want to order long pole stabs then

[untold wigeon]

I’ll find the brand and exact keycaps, I’m new to custom keyboards 😅

[short rune]

since the 80he stabs are screw in does that affect which stabs you can replace them with?

[uneven cradle]

80he supports clip in, screw in and plate mounted stabs

[short rune]

🙏

is replacing the stabs easy never done stab mods before

[untold wigeon]

Can I get these keycaps on a wooting without stab mods?

Side Printed keycaps,Double Shot PBT keycaps,Black Topographic,Shine Through keycaps 75 Percent,dye-sub key cap,Cherry Profile keycaps for MX Switches Mechanical keyboard（132 key,only keycaps)

[short rune]

stab mods don’t affect the keycaps

[calm pulsar]

easier to tune existing stabs, they are just fine

[short rune]

unless the stab is made for a different type of switch

[calm pulsar]

geon stem spacers

[short rune]

ah okay

[untold wigeon]

So I can get the Side Printed keycaps,Double Shot PBT keycaps,Black Topographic,Shine Through keycaps 75 Percent,dye-sub key cap,Cherry Profile keycaps for MX Switches Mechanical keyboard（132 key,only keycaps) on the wooting?

[untold wigeon]

This!

[ionic breach]

maybe, maybe not

[untold wigeon]

Ok

[kind helm]

^ exists

[untold wigeon]

Ig I’ll see when the keyboard is set up

[little glen]

I love that you just copy pasted the amazon product name in all its search optimized glory

[ionic breach]

ya that will fine as well

[untold wigeon]

Should I get 60gf or wait for 50

[crimson sky]

depends

do you want 60gf or wanna wait for 50

[quasi hinge]

50 is amazing just fyi

[crimson sky]

preference

[quasi hinge]

came from geon raptors

[kind helm]

i personally think it doesn't matter that mach. you may mistype a couple times when you use it but you will most likely mistype a couple times when you uses wooting's low actuation point anyway. eventually you will get used to it.
I would suggest anyone who just come into this hobby stop thinking about "what is best" and start just playing around with things. even though it may or may not burn a hole in your wallet . but there is NO best

[quasi hinge]

try ordering a few to see if you have patience

[hollow parrot]

Yeah that’s what I was wondering.

[wide anchor]

Can I ues any profile keycaps for a 60HE build in a TOFU? Planning on using Keychron's KSA.

[wild prawn]

Hello, it might be silly question, but will these keycaps work well with Wooting 80HE?
https://drop.com/buy/drop-dcl-shadow-keycap-set/photos#photos

[kind helm]

damn the font looks nice on those

[wild prawn]

So it also applies to 80HE?

[crimson sky]

they would fit

but the caps are quite bad quality, especially for that price

[kind helm]

why would they make a keyboard so special that no other companies' keycap fit

[wild prawn]

I don't mean if it will fit, but if it will be well lit, because they should work best with south facing leds and wooting have north facing leds

[kind helm]

then you already know it won't work well :3

[marsh saffron]

Wootings rgb is bright as hell

So probably

[wild prawn]

I'll give it a shot

[kind helm]

this is the max brightness with the performance mode on(whatever the name is start with t)

[wild prawn]

tachyon

[kind helm]

https://shop.wuquestudio.com/products/amber-keycaps?variant=46227635175594

id probably go with something like this if you want rgb

my friends, this looks hot af

[wild prawn]

Too much

[marsh saffron]

Not my build but these are the keycaps I've got coming

[kind helm]

i think this would fck me up if i look it while high

[loud gull]

You can unlock it to a 100% in Tachyon mode.

[kind helm]

wow

didn't notice :3

[loud gull]

We did this, because the power draw is pretty big. So if you use custom after market cables or USB-hubs it might do funky stuff.
If you use stock wooting cable, or our detachable cable, you should be fine. 😄

[exotic inlet]

Any plans on adding 2k or 4k polling rate?

I mean, something in between as a choice

[dire delta]

What's the cheapest Eu-Store which has Tofu Redux cases?

[loud gull]

Believe we would down the line yeah

[kind helm]

👀 update 60 module with 8k pooling and pcb cutouts on the edges for gummy oring mount?

[dire delta]

+JST Connector

for Daughterboards

[kind helm]

apparently venom60he from geon has those things and they sell them for 60 something usd but only for korea at the moment.

👀 competitions are catching up is all i am trying to say

[loud gull]

We are releasing a friction mount pad soon enough 🙂

[loud gull]

I mean, there are also plenty of chinese brands pumping out stuff here and there. We just do whatever we can, don't want to rush stuff out too quickly of course.

[kind helm]

yee you guys are the OG and wootility most likely still is the best. i just want to see better things keep popping up from relatively trust worthy brands like you. i am not gonna trust the drivers from chinese brands eventhough i am chinese myself :3

to this day, when i click on bilibili on my phone, taobao would automatically pop up first because that is just how we roll

[real fern]

I like Lekker's Miami FPS colours but which keycaps would go with it? Currently I have black double-shot from Wooting but naturally they are not perfect for this purpose 🙂

[paper bloom]

There are many other brands like GMK

There are also japanese hiragana

https://www.thekapco.com/collections/the-kapco

[kind helm]

cardboard wooting?! is that a thing?!

[paper bloom]

ye

[kind helm]

I NEED TO HEAR IT

AND SEE IT

[paper bloom]

Here u go

@kind helm

The case itself is cardboard lol

[kind helm]

😭 thats cardboard in Alumaze60

[paper bloom]

This

@kind helm ^^^

[kind helm]

that spacebar is nutty

[paper bloom]

LOL

me and chime rn are

[sweet oak]

peak wooting

[paper bloom]

working on the uhh gasket mount

Cardboard

im still thinking what would cook

[sweet oak]

cardboard mount

[glossy pagoda]

Cork

[kind helm]

what switch is on that thing

[sweet oak]

CORK MOUNTED?

[paper bloom]

Lekker

[kind helm]

yea L

👀

[glossy pagoda]

Cork mounted cardboard

[paper bloom]

a case or a gasket mount out of cork is actually a good idea

Or a cork mount

I'll think of something on it thanks

[sweet oak]

now were cookin

[kind helm]

you got raw on there now or nah?

[paper bloom]

The ones that chime has is the

Lekker l60 or l45

Ver 1

[kind helm]

i think the cardboard did not peak its potential there

[paper bloom]

Its cuz it doesnt have RAW HE

and its p old but me and chime will talk it out and see how it goes

I'll probs come back from my military service and then see how

[kind helm]

W

[paper bloom]

@glossy pagodaIts time to make wooting a keyboard cardboard case with RAW GEON switches and maybe a gasket mount

time to be sustainable

Arts and crafts

[paper bloom]

But yes the gasket mount will be a thing its just a eventual thing

[sweet oak]

woots and crafts

[paper bloom]

Dude we legit need a wooting arts and crafts event

Like holy shit

[glossy pagoda]

Good thing we've just hired new industrial designers

They can start working on this posthaste

[sweet oak]

puttin that new expansion to good work

[paper bloom]

If u do i wish to say that ME AND CHIME

are the first nut jobs to have cardboard cases

LOL

[sweet oak]

the factory must be sustainable, AND expand

[paper bloom]

Or cardboard pad

[sweet oak]

cardPad?

[paper bloom]

Yea

Its a real thing btw

[kind helm]

i need to try that later when i have the time, i have plenty of cardboard from amazon packages

that spacebar is extra W now that i know its lekker v1 in there

[paper bloom]

I can give u ideas and stuff

If u wish

For cardboard

Cuz the plate is e z solve but it can be a hybrid as well

[kind helm]

i assume you didn't mount it, since i dont see any holes down there

[paper bloom]

nope

there isnt and its chime's

not mine

[kind helm]

👀 you got something even more spicy?!

[paper bloom]

i got a cardboard pad below my keeb

[sweet oak]

cork pad, cardboard case, papermiche style caps (i know ive seen those somewhere)

[paper bloom]

Basically its those foam below it

I cld maybe add it to my keeb one day and give a sound test but idk XD

[kind helm]

👀 lowkey if no mounting i probably undo the screws on the plate too

[paper bloom]

The plates e z done and can be done as well as the add on foam

[kind helm]

we wild out here

[paper bloom]

There are many ways with cardboard

[kind helm]

i am thinking, tape mod + glue on tape with cardboard

[paper bloom]

what are u planning to do first

[kind helm]

those two at once, cause i don't wanna ruin the pcb. :3

the painter's tape is gotta protect my precious pcb

[paper bloom]

What chime did, he didnt use glue

for the case u can run any

U can stick the painters tape inside

Or layer it

u can also use glue but u need to be prepare to clean and isolate which is kinda time consuming icl

Id rather u keep half of the case accessable with just tape

Then if u wanna try and do a gasket mount project it is alot easier

[kind helm]

maybe double sided tape beneath the painter's tape instead of glue

[paper bloom]

ye

[kind helm]

easier to deal with and safer probably

[paper bloom]

Yes

but double sdided tape might ruin the case

Thats why i say painters tape

If ur a avid mover id say run a bit of duct tape that isnt very adhesive

or some sort of tape

[kind helm]

i do move the keeb a lot but just sliding on the table cause poor student only got one table in his apartment😭

[paper bloom]

Then i recommend u get painters tape

and reinforce the weak points

The double sided tape can be a bit later on, but if u wish to have a reinforcement layer do what u said earlier as per stated

[paper bloom]

Here

[loud gull]

Okay the Jade Maxes kinda suck smoothness wise. Initial press it has quite some resistance/rubbing and doesn't feel really smooth at all

[kind helm]

how do you mean reinforce the weak points with painters tape?

my thinking is a layer of painters tape to the bottom of pcb then a layer of double sided tape between pcb and piece of cardbard, the no case

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-rip-sad-sponge-bob-stephen-hillenburg-crying-sponge-bob-squidward-gif-12966776

[kind helm]

go from salvation with no foam to cardboard with tapes is like luxurious 5 start hotel to ghetto. but i think this is real interesting

[kind helm]

geon max frankenswitch?👀

[vocal rose]

I might really just go Raws then

[tropic urchin]

It would’ve been funny if the raw stem fit, but I did it for the memes

[loud gull]

You can't swap the Geon's with the Maxes 😛

I tried atleast the Pro's with RAW top housing, but nah. 😛

[stone flax]

raws bettah?

[loud gull]

Raws are better in smoothness. I do like the somewhat deeper sound of the Max/Pro

[paper bloom]

First of all make ur half of the case

With glue

The other halve as well

As u piece it together rather than fixed u run painters tape

If u think and feel that u want a stand alone case

U can run a painters or glue

[kind helm]

hold on, you have stacks of cardboard as the case?

[paper bloom]

Thats what the video and the pic is dude LOL

The bottom is layered too

But its glued

To the bottom

[kind helm]

i was thinking this

xD

[paper bloom]

Hell u cld even use resin and cure the layers inbetween for durability LOL

[paper bloom]

Thats one way yea

But the pros is that u can run degree

With cardboard cases if u make ur owj

Own*

[kind helm]

yea i think for the one you show is an actual "case" rather than "oh yea i tape a keeb to a cardboard"

[paper bloom]

Cuz it is an actual case LOL

[paper bloom]

If u wanna do that u gotta make sure u dont fry the pcb

Its a lot riskier

Than the one that chime did

[kind helm]

i dont worry about the bottom of the pcb since that would be covered by painters tape, but yea maybe between the plate and the pcb i should put a piece of poron foam or something

[paper bloom]

Or cardboard

but i wouldnt rlly recommend it

[kind helm]

ain no way you cut holes for each switch

[paper bloom]

Cuz its a lot of cutting and u gotta be prescise on the cutouts at hand

[kind helm]

ain no way

[paper bloom]

U do that literally

And the stabs

[kind helm]

man is actually goated

LMAO

[paper bloom]

Then u gotta slowly trim the sides to ensure a good fit

Me and chime havent done that YET

But i got plans to do it when theres enough time

[paper bloom]

If u want u can be the first tho

But idk about the sounds cuz theres many factors

[kind helm]

hellnah

i have one research paper and 2 term projects due in 4 days

[paper bloom]

LOL U CLD RUN PAPER PAD

[kind helm]

i was some what thinking about ending it all

[paper bloom]

Inbetween the pcb

[kind helm]

but now i am happy

[paper bloom]

Least ur not suffering like me

🗿

Im soon going into the army

And im now trying to become special forces

Talk about a pain in my ass

[kind helm]

W

[paper bloom]

Its not a W

If ur government fucks u up first

Or some shit timing or some bs fucks u up

LOL

If u ask me tho its good to serve but what u want is gonna be ass to work with

[kind helm]

my advisor left the country after my first year of phd, talkin about fck up

[paper bloom]

So better to go in without any expectation

[paper bloom]

Hey least ur advisor left

If itd be me id alrdy couldve left the army too LOL

If i had served

[kind helm]

yea honestly just fuck living in general, i try not to think about goal anymore, sometimes things are just ridiculous

[paper bloom]

Better to move on and find the things u wanna d

Do*

Honestly if u think PHD is ur go to sure

The hell better be worth it thp

Ive fought for so much shit for 2 years straight dude

It isnt fun

But it was somewhat worth iy

It*

[kind helm]

after my old advisor pushed me in, i learned that apparently i make way less compared to if i just get a job after master

[paper bloom]

Welp

Things will get better

[kind helm]

thankfully it is, i think after all the bs i am more... lets say experienced

[paper bloom]

Good man welp im off to bed

Im also chinese btw

[kind helm]

CHINA NUMBER 1

[paper bloom]

Hahaha

[haughty torrent]

Taiwán

[tropic urchin]

@calm pulsar 👀

[chilly mural]

yey

[tropic urchin]

The switch civil war has started

They actually sound really good stock, so I think that is the factory lube job at work

[chilly mural]

I'm pressing it RN, it feels soo good as a fidget toy

[tropic urchin]

That’s about all I have to work with too

[chilly mural]

1 moar month

then I get to experience typing with it

[tropic urchin]

1.5 for me 🥲

[chilly mural]

RIP

[tropic urchin]

Or maybe 1.25

#cursedwhitezincdelay

Early December is what I’m expecting

[chilly mural]

Hope by that time third party already started doing their thing with 80he cases

I wouldn't mind if it's $100 or something, if it's shipped from China it's going to cost cheaper than going from NL

[marsh saffron]

Id imagine it'll be a good 3-6 more months at least

[chilly mural]

That's fine too

[tropic urchin]

I kinda feel like a jack ass now getting maxes, but that’s what I get for wanting to try something new 🥲

[kind helm]

if my memory is working, i think you were the jade max ambassador

[tropic urchin]

My name changed ye

Since I have both I changed my name

[kind helm]

welcome to the cult

[tropic urchin]

Was thinking of going to the Gateron Raw ambassador for a more cursed name

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-elmo-pyro-burn-it-down-ashes-gif-7510700295202730251

[chilly mural]

Idk if I have said this to you but... Thank you for your support to the Church of Geon!

[robust siren]

[robust siren]

Glory to our lord and savior Geon!

[tropic urchin]

Geon did deserve some more of my money after his switch opener

[robust siren]

once you go raw you can never go back

[tropic urchin]

I wouldn’t call myself a Geon Apostle quite yet, but stock im impressed by

[robust siren]

https://tenor.com/view/chika-suggestive-eyebrows-thats-what-she-said-gif-19348690

[tropic urchin]

I ended up getting the 50g ones

[kind helm]

i kinda want to try 62.5g with the pingless spring, heavier spring should be more smooth based on glarses super reds video, and with wooting i dont need to press all the way down anyway

[tropic urchin]

I thought this was a sticker at first, but do all RAWs have this by the north facing light area

[chilly mural]

the logo?

Yeh

[tropic urchin]

Word

Yeah I might just leave these stock for lube and probably just go after the springs

They do sound a little different in person, but that’s probably the no keyboard sound tax

[kind helm]

👀

[fallen echo]

yes. its etched into the diffusor.

[calm pulsar]

that's the way

[tropic urchin]

I’m kinda floored tbh

[calm pulsar]

in a good way?

[tropic urchin]

It’s almost not close

Feels bad man

As a jade sound profile enjoyer, the RAWs are basically there

They do sound a bit different from different tests

[calm pulsar]

yeah I feel like their bottom out is softer on feel a bit, but a bit brighter on the sound

[tropic urchin]

I do enjoy that

[calm pulsar]

btw im running maxes now in my venom 😄

cause I'm building jade raws

raw jade knights

[tropic urchin]

@calm pulsar I’m half way tempted to buy a cheap HE keeb for work and using maxes there

FUCK bro

That’s tough

[calm pulsar]

hmm maybe you want a quieter keeb at work

[tropic urchin]

Maxes I think should be quiet enough

[calm pulsar]

well yeah they are quieter than other closed bottoms, just make sure to have a softer plate on that keeb, but honestly I would kinda just keep em and change around in 80he when I feel like it

[tropic urchin]

did you have any trouble opening the raw switch? I get like 70% of the way there, but it doesnt wanna go all the way open

the center big clip doesnt seem to wanna open

[calm pulsar]

yeah its cause of that light diffuser, I personally also had that

just pry on corners and it will go off fine

[untold wigeon]

I had this problem. Got a thumbtack and opened them all the way.

[tropic urchin]

Ah cool

[calm pulsar]

the diffuser might fly everywhere, so be careful 😄

[untold wigeon]

Plus the damn Raws would hold on to my switch opener.

[tropic urchin]

looks like the spring lubing will be another time

[untold wigeon]

That’s a do it while you’re in there job.

[tropic urchin]

might just leave them there if it turns out to be a hassle to get the spring with the diffuser

Definitely the tale of two different stock experiences

[untold wigeon]

Thumbtack

[kind helm]

sound test sound test sound test rawrrrrrr

[calm pulsar]

I will do, just need to lube em all, and also planning to use 52.5g pingless spring without lubing it