🔧│keyboard_modding

[chilly mural]

Also gonna lube it

better than paying shipping from the US I guess

Just to make sure, is this the correct one for geon raw + 80he?

[calm pulsar]

the stabs work for both HE and MX, so this seems correct

just make sure you're getting Raw HE, cause there are other switches in the Raw lineup

[chilly mural]

Already got that

the raw HE

[calm pulsar]

nice

I use TX AP long pole on my raw he build

[stone flax]

LETS GET RAW

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[calm pulsar]

had more luck with them than sw knight v2s tbh xd

[chilly mural]

US Shipping be like

[stone flax]

knight stabs on top

[chilly mural]

yeh, think I'll go for geon's route

like $15 less

[calm pulsar]

I have a list of all I need to fix in my build so I might try them out again, maybe I'll order geon balanced wires or use TX AP stab wire

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/meat-slap-that-meat-salt-bae-gif-7897765

[chilly mural]

oh yeah, I can grab pingless spring too while at it

50g are sold out tho

maybe not

[calm pulsar]

I snatched all variants when I ordered a while ago lul

using 62.5g right now, but want to try 52.5gs

[chilly mural]

waow

how are you

[calm pulsar]

wdym?

[chilly mural]

meant to say 'dare'

[calm pulsar]

ah

[calm pulsar]

well I ordered from korean local stores so

before they were selling internationally

[chilly mural]

Anyway, just checked my controller, it also have ping on the spring. Unless Sanwa also do pingless sanwa spring I don't need pingless spring for the geon raw

[whole obsidian]

im at 412 what else i need..

my limit is 350 i think

i want a good sound, good mods

[calm pulsar]

damn I mean maybe aliexpress has some coupons or smth? to bring that lower

[whole obsidian]

i don't have any..

[calm pulsar]

I've seen people just google em, also they might give a first buy discount if you havent ordered from there

[kind helm]

nah honestly the price looks about right because you are getting some nice caps

[whole obsidian]

i order them then ?

[calm pulsar]

yeah I agree

[robust siren]

maybe a plate(?)

[kind helm]

plate include with module

:3

[robust siren]

yeah i know but for sound

[whole obsidian]

the base plate is good for raw they told me that

[calm pulsar]

PC is nice for the sound with raws

[kind helm]

its not the disgusting steel plate in 60he\

[calm pulsar]

I mean if he wants it brighter he might order a denser plate down the line

[kind helm]

its the pc in module

[robust siren]

i keep thinking its the steel 🤦‍♂️

mb

[kind helm]

[whole obsidian]

sooo what else do i need

do i really need new stabilisers ? or any lube or orings or stuff?

[robust siren]

you dont need new stabilizers

you might have to balance the stock ones though

[calm pulsar]

do kbdfans have geon stem spacers?

[robust siren]

maybe grab some 205g0

for the stabs

[calm pulsar]

ah looks like they dont

[untold wigeon]

Pom

[fallen echo]

the tape mod is literally pointless

[calm pulsar]

the guy is fighting for every little euro in his budget, so PC will be fine 😄

[chilly mural]

Hmm, so around $50 extra for stabs + lube for me.

[whole obsidian]

mb sent 2

[calm pulsar]

nah module has better stabs

[untold wigeon]

Oh lol. Good point then

[fallen echo]

and to be fair, the brass bar for the tofu redux is kinda pointless

[whole obsidian]

hahahah if only i lived in the us...

[fallen echo]

the case itself is heavy enough already

[robust siren]

but more weight

[whole obsidian]

w = weight

[robust siren]

+0.5 damage

[calm pulsar]

I found it reduced ping quite good tbh

[whole obsidian]

at least

[calm pulsar]

at the very least this empty space has to be filled up

[kind helm]

i agree, i just drop some cotton there

[robust siren]

-0.1 attack speed

[kind helm]

wanted it to be lighter

[fallen echo]

you will achieve the same with polyfill

[whole obsidian]

i really need lube ?

tools and lube costing me an extra 30e

[fallen echo]

you want grease for your stabs

[whole obsidian]

okay i'll do it then

[fallen echo]

if you still go with HE raws from geon, they are prelubed

[robust siren]

if you have to take apart the stabilizers yes, or else itll get everywhere and there'll be no more on the stabs

[untold wigeon]

Heavier is better

[whole obsidian]

i'll buy that looks fancy tho

[fallen echo]

pointless

[calm pulsar]

lol

[kind helm]

bro thats too funny

[robust siren]

i thought you were on a budget

[kind helm]

LMFAO

[whole obsidian]

hahahhahahah

[untold wigeon]

I own one. It is the greatest thing in the history of ever

[chilly mural]

lmao

[whole obsidian]

ahahahh fr???

[chilly mural]

$3 only

[whole obsidian]

nah but for 3$ i can take it

budget is 453 now xd

[untold wigeon]

Yes. No joking. Ask @harsh dove

[fallen echo]

no brush ever for 3 bucks was worth the butane to put it on fire and toss it

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/master-much-to-learn-you-still-have-gif-10612124

[robust siren]

im not sure if this was fixed on the module version but my 60he+ (prebuilt) had 0 lube on this part of the stabs

[fallen echo]

you lube the insides of the housing. and grease the metal.

[untold wigeon]

Just use DEG for all of it

[whole obsidian]

we cant buy only the keycaps bruh

[harsh dove]

Can confirm Brush is goated, I use it all the time and its great quality for $3

[robust siren]

i was following the sw tutorial for stabs

[harsh dove]

I will say my handle was a bit loose but I just used some wood glue and shoved it back in, no problems since

[untold wigeon]

@whole obsidian see

[harsh dove]

Yeah I basically use it every day

[untold wigeon]

Same

[kind helm]

my 60he that i ordered last year was lubed, not perfect but not really noticeably bad during normal usage.

i think the spacebar needed some fix but the 4 2U ones were decent

[robust siren]

i only figured it out cause there was too much lube on the wires and it was sticky, also had to balance 3/5 of them before i got sw knights

[whole obsidian]

i order this ? 447,61 euros so 486,74 Dollar

tell me if i need orings or stuff

[robust siren]

you dont really get much from orings, its like 10$ and you would also need longer screws

[kind helm]

those are just tools if i remember correctly

may not have lube included

[calm pulsar]

he has from wooting

[whole obsidian]

that's the lube

[kind helm]

ah

[whole obsidian]

22.50euros

[calm pulsar]

but dang 22 euros

[whole obsidian]

cant i find cheaper one

[calm pulsar]

maybe there's cheaper grease only options

[kind helm]

i used a mix of these two

actually these also add up to 20 something dollars but probably will last you forever

[robust siren]

i have amazon links for the o-rings and longer screws if you want but burger mount barely does anything

[whole obsidian]

it's fine i'll pass

so nothing else needed?

[kind helm]

i think wait for the friction mount thingy that wooting made

[whole obsidian]

whats that

[robust siren]

yeah the total for those 2 items are like 11 or 12 usd

[whole obsidian]

yeah no neeed too then

is there a new w keyboard from wooting soon ?

[robust siren]

next would probably be a 100% refresh

or the 60

[kind helm]

https://www.youtube.com/live/GQtIlxfopns?feature=shared&t=1917

[whole obsidian]

when does it release?

[kind helm]

i hope they make a 8k version of 60 module

[calm pulsar]

"soon" might be a year

[kind helm]

then i get it

i mainly hope they drop the price

[whole obsidian]

is it really important or can i buy everything?

is it something to add ?

[kind helm]

china and korea companies need to make wooting feel unsafe :V

[calm pulsar]

competition has been there for years wdym

[whole obsidian]

yeah but can i still order it now i won't have any regrets in like 6 months?

[kind helm]

https://clickclack.io/products/upcoming-click-clack-x-kochi-hummingbird68-magnetic-switch-mechanical-keyboard-kit one whole ass prebuilt he keyboard that is cheaper than wooting's precious pcb

[whole obsidian]

better than wooting ? 🧌

[stone flax]

no

[kind helm]

i mean the price still looks like they dont give a single fuck about the competition

not better than wooting

but wooting is not 300+ dollars better than this board either

[whole obsidian]

does the iqunix ez63 is better?

[calm pulsar]

can't customize this board though

a better example would be venom60he hehe

[polar girder]

Razer huntsman mini pro $180

[robust siren]

bought a wooting for the great software, long term software support, and moddability 💯

[polar girder]

You’re comparing budget to premiums lol

[robust siren]

but its razer so...

[whole obsidian]

tell me now if i need something to add please..

i will orderr today

[kind helm]

12800 yen on a jp site, so around 86 dollars. support 8k pooling 14k scan rate

geon needs to sell that s44t to the world RIGHT NOW

[calm pulsar]

yeah and it's sold for like 65 usd on korean websites

[whole obsidian]

W order or do i need something else to make a perfect modding?

[calm pulsar]

has proper gummy oring cutouts, option for 7u layout

no rgb though for all the rgb chair kids

[whole obsidian]

bro ii miight buy it and not my 450e keyboard

[calm pulsar]

its sold only in korea for now, I got it through an agent basically

[whole obsidian]

or this isnt it better than my entire build ? https://iqunix.com/products/iqunix-ez60-ez63-magnetic-switch-gaming-he-keyboard

[whole obsidian]

ohh okay

[calm pulsar]

also keep in mind wooting software and firmware is still the best around

[robust siren]

iqunix has worse software

[whole obsidian]

so this build will be good even in like 2 years?

for gaming and stuff?

[kind helm]

yep was gonna say that, wootility is W

[robust siren]

i said this earlier

[kind helm]

since something that is 4x faster than 60he already exist right now

[uneven cradle]

Well the wooting one is still receiving firmware/software updates seven years later so I'd say the track record is pretty good

[kind helm]

may not be good if you are REALLY REALLY competitive

[whole obsidian]

so yall dont recommand me to buy all of that?

[calm pulsar]

wait what?

[chilly mural]

Same, they lit still update a 3 year old KB

[robust siren]

7 year old 2he:

[chilly mural]

Ohbyeh

[whole obsidian]

im a competitive player but not a player that want 0.00004 speed over 0.000144 speed

[kind helm]

80 has 8k pooling so supposedly it is faster

[chilly mural]

Supports keyboard longer than apple

[kind helm]

XD

[calm pulsar]

8khz isnt that insane lol

[polar girder]

Yeah their shit is sweet. What you mean

[calm pulsar]

its like less than a ms

[vocal rose]

I agree, I don't think most people buy the wooting for the out of the box looks/aesthetics. its the HE implementation and software being the best in the market still.

[kind helm]

LOLOLOLOL i mean it is 8 times faster right

[stone flax]

?

[polar girder]

8khz on keyboard is even less significant than 8khz on mouse which is already not significant lol

[stone flax]

its available for 67.50

[polar girder]

It’s neat. I’ll definitely buy it. But majority won’t notice difference.

[calm pulsar]

did you get yours?

[kind helm]

https://rabbit0-shop.com/products/detail/198 saw it here, didnt dig deep, probably include some price of porting from kr to jp

[stone flax]

nope

still need to wait for 7u frog mini plate w/ standoffs

[kind helm]

CHINA NUMBER 1

[whole obsidian]

what y'all recommand to me buy a wooting 60he+ prebuilt for 200e, an iqunix ez63 for also 200e or my modded wooting for about 450e ?

[stone flax]

ur modded wooting is disgustingly price lmao

ur paying more for a tofu build than i did for a whole frog

EU taxes moment

[kind helm]

depends on you, a lot of the he keyboards dont cost as much, but wooting is still somewhat the best

[calm pulsar]

sorry I forgot why you needed standoffs? cause pcb has standoffs built into it

[stone flax]

its gotta have tadpole mounts and tsangan

[vocal rose]

It will come down to what do you really want. most people here would probably recommend the wooting over other brands. as for modding that is entirely preference.

[whole obsidian]

that's what im asking is 450e really worth it

[calm pulsar]

ah you meant the frog mini compatible plate with the tadpole cutouts and stuff

[stone flax]

yes

[calm pulsar]

got it

[kind helm]

i personally picked wooting because its the OG so i kinda see as a collection piece

[whole obsidian]

yall know websites to buy custom wootings maybe?

it can be cheaper for me tho

[stone flax]

?

[calm pulsar]

btw @stone flax can you show me your force break once again? I'm starting to think my thin ass medical tape doesnt give much effect, thinking of redoing the force break

[vocal rose]

I dont think wooting module is sold outside the wooting official website

[calm pulsar]

ebay? lol

[whole obsidian]

if i can buy a custom made wooting from someone to be cheaper

or if y'all sell one

[stone flax]

haviong someone make it for u will make it not cheaper

aftermarket could be cheaper tho

[polar girder]

lol

[whole obsidian]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/186717415155?_skw=modded+60+he+wooting&itmmeta=01JAH2PS1Y6PWN8AEH37FGJ2WY&hash=item2b7939a6f3:g:aVsAAOSw8YNnAZhR&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKkCZIcKU8xGZhPugyT0zW7nmWqZXwSGzfCXDOomPtsDPDysxKjOjPMl9NvdOpPW%2B7VPxQSP4NhDtVOckHVDP%2BaE6Rfbwc%2Fk%2FwQ6xWHsJ8mpxWODSp7Cks2zTvi8Cit%2BSl93Jl5pvAj8iVnRe7f%2Bp3r1ePNTog1x2O92UCZuGMCjO1BSDnZ0S5jCZYPQ1RFTksVG5owBLbJim1dyOt%2BRUEpLbKJVuN%2Fepmov7A5sX%2FiRA4YlWDIhjyw3ea6i84kPsQO0GA2rTcJwdIOZFHWYHns1EFThAAH00q6%2Fkd13Mqbd%2BA%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR4SR26LUZA

[kind helm]

if i can get a venom60he right now i will sell you my tofu60

:3

[whole obsidian]

250$ for this lol

[stone flax]

its way over

[calm pulsar]

yeah haha, but I might use thicker tape like yours

did you do the upper case piece as well? or only the bottom

[whole obsidian]

w or not?

[stone flax]

bottom only

[calm pulsar]

ight thanks

[stone flax]

meh

[whole obsidian]

why?

[stone flax]

idk

i mustve just gotten a good deal on my frog

[vocal rose]

it appears to be used. but then again its up to you if you want to gamble on an aftermarket wooting.

[calm pulsar]

is it the og 60he or newer 60he+?

[whole obsidian]

og

[calm pulsar]

cause it affects how good the stabs are and whether you can install pcb mount ones

[whole obsidian]

what's the difference ?

[calm pulsar]

60he+ has the ability to install pcb mount stabs, like the ones that come with the module

[vocal rose]

stabs are only plate mounted for the OG 60he

[calm pulsar]

which are a bit better

[vocal rose]

also the lekker linear60v1 are wobbly vs the current v1.5

on the 60he+*

[calm pulsar]

he's getting raws anyways

[chilly mural]

how is it soo cheap

[vocal rose]

oh I see. then isnt it better for him just to get the module and then spec a case+keycaps then

[calm pulsar]

yes, but it is turning out more than 400 euros for where he lives

[vocal rose]

oh darn

[vestal drift]

Im currently building my 80he keyboard module. I want to install the tx almost perfect screw in stabilizers. Has anyone installed the same stabilizers in their keyboard and can provide me some guidelines on how to go about it?

[calm pulsar]

did you tag me? seems like my discord lagging @stone flax

[stone flax]

💀

[glacial wind]

They’ve said that won’t be happening

[calm pulsar]

do you really need to replace the stabs?

[stone flax]

unscrew old, lube and tune new stabs, screw in new stabs

[vestal drift]

yes I want the quality stabilizers over the stock ones

[stone flax]

…Stabs are stabs

[calm pulsar]

the "quality" depends on how well you lube and tune them, and the stocks are just fine if you do it correctly

[glacial wind]

It comes with gateron stabs already

[untold wigeon]

@calm pulsar I didn’t realize the venom was a HE board. How do you like it? How’s the software?

[stone flax]

._. Its both

[vestal drift]

As I dont want to damage the new keyboard, im nervous to separate the top plate from the bottom part of the module.

[stone flax]

theyd sell both mx and he

[stone flax]

?

[calm pulsar]

yeah there are HE and MX variants for venom

[stone flax]

what does that have to do with you wanting new stabs in

[untold wigeon]

Oh ok

[timber nymph]

got my tofu60 case in today

[vestal drift]

youre right about that, i alredy purchased the stabalizers so i may as well use them you know

[stone flax]

i mean if u have them with you now i guess?

[vestal drift]

i dont want to make a wrong move and break something you feel

[stone flax]

so how does that affect the fact you cant use the stock stabs but you would plan to use aftermarket ones?

its the same amount of disassembly lol

[glacial wind]

There plenty of YouTube videos on how to assemble stabs. Just google tx ap stab guide

[calm pulsar]

I love mine, it is a very nice option for those who are into modding HE, it has:
proper gummy oring cutots
ability to install in the cases that need daughter boards
support for 7u spacebar (symmetric bottom row), split backspace, split right shift
8khz polling rate
the software is less nice than wootility but has socd and all the sliders you might need for actuation configuration

also no rgb @untold wigeon, keep in mind

only capslock led 😄

[kind helm]

rgb is O V E R R A T E D

[untold wigeon]

Sounds sweet. Rgb I could take it or leave it

[kind helm]

lowkey distracting if i need to focus in game

[stone flax]

gh60 and center udb support is nutty tho

[robust siren]

i almost have mine always on static cause tachyon mode

[stone flax]

u go from covering 80% of 60 percents to almost all atp

lmao

[calm pulsar]

yeah that's super cool

[untold wigeon]

This means it can go in the f2-60

[calm pulsar]

yes, and I double confirmed in geon discord today

[stone flax]

yep

[untold wigeon]

Yeah I saw.

[stone flax]

hall effect korn build

[calm pulsar]

sounds nice

but Im really liking the f2-60

might have to snatch it

maybe i'll have 60he pro in my frog mini and venom in f2-60

the rabbithole

[stone flax]

steelseries better bro

[calm pulsar]

steelseries, but none of the keyboards contain steel smh

[kind helm]

would you rather they contain steel

thin steel that is hollow and high pitch

[calm pulsar]

with steel keycaps for that signature clang

https://youtu.be/Euq7uTeYCP0

[untold wigeon]

@calm pulsar do you have a sound test for the venom

[kind helm]

i need these caps

[calm pulsar]

my latest one is aluminum plate with zero foams, in the frog mini case

[untold wigeon]

Need to be on my pc to listen to this. I’ll check it out later. Ty

[calm pulsar]

@untold wigeon the sound mostly doesn't change compared to the same build on wooting pcb, cause the sound depends on all the other variables

[calm pulsar]

btw seems like it is quite soon 😮

[untold wigeon]

Sweet

[prime orbit]

W

Not for my wallet

But still

[stone flax]

kkb wob

[near barn]

did anyone that ordered lekker springs end up lubing the springs by hand/bag?

[prime orbit]

bad?

[calm pulsar]

gmk black snail

[stone flax]

my goat

kkb>pbtfans

[prime orbit]

they look kinda glossy no?

[whole obsidian]

https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/1005004262758460.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.50fa736ajcMhCB&algo_pvid=1f2897c9-8d84-4d25-b446-738562f52fb1&algo_exp_id=1f2897c9-8d84-4d25-b446-738562f52fb1-1&pdp_npi=4%40dis!EUR!65.15!40.39!!!491.70!304.83!%402103956a17293015764412017e7024!12000028560794110!sea!FR!6140788041!X&curPageLogUid=8hMycNFezFLO&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A

W or not ?

[stone flax]

sir that is a render

[prime orbit]

listen man

been a long day

[whole obsidian]

over this https://www.keykobo.com/products/in-stockkey-kobo

cause kkb expensive..

[stone flax]

mrrhnngggg

[prime orbit]

are they diff quality

is that why?

[stone flax]

id say the molds are just better for the legends

and sound wise

ya

[prime orbit]

should i cancel the other ones

and get those

[stone flax]

its fine

kkb will just prolly feel superior

[prime orbit]

well the ones i have rn are like fading after a month

aliexpress was not it

so im tryna get really good rn

[stone flax]

legends fading?

[prime orbit]

yep

[stone flax]

thats not really a problem with doubleshots

since theres not a printed legend to fade in the first place

[prime orbit]

welp

do you think its worth the extra money

for the key kobo ones

[stone flax]

wym

[prime orbit]

the ones i got were on sale

$57

key kobo is $80

[stone flax]

:<

[prime orbit]

taxes

shipping

its brutal LMAO

[visual moat]

did the tech people finally come out with a silent he switch

[violet fulcrum]

Soon but very different

[visual moat]

wym by different and are you developing your own silent he switch

[visual moat]

you needa cut your dragon nails bruh

[violet fulcrum]

Not my pictures, but this is a switch that uses a rubber dome for weighting and has a built in silencer

[pliant kernel]

Having long nails sucks when you are using a mouse to game. Too distracting.

[visual moat]

fr

yall know what mouse i should get my motherboard doesnt have bluetooth

[violet fulcrum]

Yeah I claw grip so cut them like every week lol

[visual moat]

cap

you cut them every month

[visual moat]

????

[violet fulcrum]

???

[visual moat]

can a tech person please help me with this question

[visual moat]

bro it looks like your nails are neglected

[violet fulcrum]

just get a 2.4ghz mouse

[pliant kernel]

Bluetooth is not standard on computer motherboards

Laptops does

[visual moat]

oh i forgot thats not your picture

[visual moat]

bro recommend me a mouse bruh under $50 thats good

[visual moat]

bro i forgot i thought that was yours

[pliant kernel]

MMO or FPS ?

[visual moat]

you kinda need long nails to work on switches tho lol

[stone flax]

scyrox v8 6️⃣ 7️⃣

[violet fulcrum]

Was literally like one minute ago lol

[visual moat]

gimme a mouse under 40 grams paw3395 at least and can connect to my motherboard even tho it dont got bluetooth

[visual moat]

how much that is?????!?!?!?

[violet fulcrum]

Nothing that fits your description unfortunately

[pliant kernel]

Oh yeah, scyrox v8 uses paw3950

[uneven cradle]

yeah if you want all of those things it comes at a cost

[visual moat]

damnn

[violet fulcrum]

And sensors should be the least of ur concerns

[visual moat]

what sthe cheapest mouse that has all those things

i want at least 3395 tho cuz its so common

[uneven cradle]

although bluetooth isn't really a thing in gaming mice

[violet fulcrum]

This isnt 2012, most sensors companies use are quite flawless

[pliant kernel]

Even Razer releases mices for esports and they are wireless with wired as second option ?

[visual moat]

whats the cheapest mouse with my needs

[visual moat]

razer different with theyre viper v3 pro sensor

[uneven cradle]

scyrox v8 probably

[calm pulsar]

I learned about this after getting ninjutso sora v2 😦

[visual moat]

whats the difference between the two

[pliant kernel]

I am on Logitech MX Master 2S and I already want a proper mouse for gaming

[visual moat]

i need a good source to buy a mouse. i ordered one from dhgate and never got it

[violet fulcrum]

jeez 🤦‍♂️

[pliant kernel]

Unfortunely, I don't know very much about mouses

[vocal rose]

VXE R1 SE I think? thats the cheapest that comes to my mind with 3395 and 2.4ghz dongle

[visual moat]

where should i get it from. i ordered one from dhgate and it never came

[mossy river]

lekker45g or geon 50g? what is YOUR preference

[stone flax]

bad

[robust siren]

geon 40 grams

[woeful maple]

What is this for?

[calm pulsar]

for thinner pcbs, no need for wooting pcb

[stone flax]

no

[woeful maple]

Wdym

[stone flax]

dont use it

[woeful maple]

I bought some stab but never see one

[stone flax]

ur pcb is 1.6mm

u dont need it

[woeful maple]

Ok

Gonna build tmr

[stone flax]

stab shims only needed for thinner pcb's

[woeful maple]

Yes sir

Is the gatreon jade lubed?

[stone flax]

prelubed yes

geon raw he better

tho

[woeful maple]

I have both

:)))

And lekker coming with the 80

[vocal rose]

depends where you are from, maybe direct from atk? (https://www.atk.store/products/vxe-dragonfly-r1-series-wireless-mouse)

[stone flax]

mad r is kinda the refresh to this

[vocal rose]

yup that's definitely better. but he was asking the cheapest

[mossy river]

are the geon he pingless springs that are sold separately different from thw ones that are already in the switches?

cuz theyre 2.5g stronger that the switches

unless that 2.5g includes the stem/axis and magnet?

[gaunt plume]

I got it!

[calm pulsar]

naisu!

[mossy river]

how much was all that

[gaunt plume]

45,500JPY
So, about 304.32USD

[mossy river]

pretty good

[marsh granite]

Can I use an mx switch puller for a lekker switch?

[devout torrent]

Ya

[gaunt linden]

What material is it? (The pcb)

[gaunt linden]

Yes

[marsh granite]

thanks

any lube or keyboard modding kits that you can recommend?

[gaunt linden]

I used the ones from wooting

[marsh granite]

i didn't know wooting sold modding kits

[gaunt linden]

Sorry I read that wrong lol

Nevermind

Well the lube yes they sell lube no?

[marsh granite]

dunno

yh they do

[visual moat]

can you send me link for mad r major pls. if im gonna get the r1 pro i might as well get a mad r major

does it still come with a dongle

[knotty iron]

they are pretty much the same on the outside except the bottom of the switch

so yeah

can I buy the stabilizers used on the 80HE on the market? are they adaptive screw in?

i found that they really are good stabilizers, just the spacebar needs some work

[kind helm]

i wont trust that, because the wire can be bent easily through bad packaging or dissembling.

[gaunt plume]

Sorry. I don't know about that.
Not the switch plate?

[ionic breach]

probably the plate lmao

[woeful maple]

About the switches

Geon is more thock and gatreon jade is more clack?

Also any board sugeest for my gf who want HE with 100$ and alu case?

[knotty iron]

they are pretty similar but geon is a bit deeper but also resonates with the sound of the surrounding materials because of the semi open design of the switch

and i guess that also makes it less prone to grinding unlike jade switches

i noticed that a lot for mine

its not super obvious but it happens every now and then

otherwise my geon raw hes were perfect

[woeful maple]

Hmmm

I have both

Gonna try it on tmr

[knotty iron]

cant wait for the firmware to update so we can choose what type of switch we have in each socket

the switch preset or whatever

[woeful maple]

But i mean

I bought 50£ of jade

Dont want to waste it

But need 10 more for the 80he

[woeful maple]

Also this

Is pain

2 day till birthday

And i have no clue

[knotty iron]

by all means jades are a good switch

they have headroom to be tuned which is great

[fluid ravine]

"geon is more thock" respectfully kms

(Keep myself safe!!!)

[knotty iron]

its kinda a clack thock a clock so to say lol

[chilly mural]

ooo found an SG vendor that sells everything I need

[gaunt plume]

FR4, Aluminum, Carbon.

[gaunt linden]

Sorry I was Drunk lol yea i meant to say the plate lol

[formal ferry]

is ttc magneto any good? i cant get raw he where i live yet

[flat cobalt]

I’m looking for something thocky and creamy but it ages well with time into a clacky sound

[opal hedge]

ktechs

[paper bloom]

Theres more than ktechs, but ktechs is the goat for the RAW HE

Gotem for 24 SGD last time when its original price is 50 bucks

[opal hedge]

i picked up my RAWs from ktechs, what other sg stores are there

[chilly mural]

already got the raw he, just grabbed a long pole stab just in case

[paper bloom]

Theres q a few

[vague stag]

it may be a stupid question, but would it not be possible to gasket mount the 60HE+ if a someone made a switch plate, that is compatible with the wooting PCB, that supports gasket mount?

I know about the o-ring mods etc. already

[dusk sedge]

Is the PC plate enough added flexibility to mess with the actuation curve for hard core comp gaming? Also any other mods that might cause actuation curve inconsistencies?

[untold wigeon]

EVERYONE, I am trying to build the best wooting keyboard, I have used the Allumaze case, ordered keycaps, the wooting 60HE+ module and I’m now wondering what the best switchs are regarding quality, I’m looking for a low pitch sound as well
I would also like feedback on potential upgrades or changes to my build if necessary

[mighty egret]

listen here #🔧│keyboard_modding message

left is raw he, right are jade max

#🔧│keyboard_modding message raw he vs jade

[vague stag]

that does truly sound like the best wooting keyboard 😉 if you are going with raws, some argue that you might need new stabs - long pole stabs. I have not experienced any issues but am still considering buying Swagkeys Knights. However, cannot find a retailer that can ship them at reasonable costs to the EU.

[inland fern]

they honestly sound the same 😭

[untold wigeon]

Im trying to find switches that I don’t have to adjust, like the stabs for example.

[vague stag]

like I said, I have the stock wooting stabs and they work perectly fine with the raws

unless u are banging you keys with alot of force 😄

[untold wigeon]

Ok

[vague stag]

but I do beleive that the Swagkeys knights sound alot better than the stock

[untold wigeon]

What kind of customisation have been used on the raw he and jade max?

On the sound camparison

[vague stag]

I have just lubed mine

[untold wigeon]

Ok

[vague stag]

some alsoe lube the springs

[untold wigeon]

I assume that the module 60he + will sound more thoc because of the silicone and foam padding

That comes with it

Should I get the raw he or the jades regarding quality and thoc

[kind helm]

if you want deeper sound, raw

[paper bloom]

Raws do better

[paper bloom]

Shopee shld show

Cuz besides Ktechs theres RF labs

[untold wigeon]

Are Raws the best ?

[paper bloom]

Yes

[untold wigeon]

Ok, they don’t have them on the wooting web so where do I buy them in aus

Or anywhere tbh

[paper bloom]

Check alextos

Website

It shld show

[untold wigeon]

Ok

[paper bloom]

Vendor list

[kind helm]

raw is good quality while being relatively cheaper than other options

[ionic breach]

I would recommend watch a few comparisons tho

[untold wigeon]

I’m looking for the best of the best regardless of price

Also the switches don’t seem to be on alextos

[ionic breach]

I like the raws more and they are like half the price

[untold wigeon]

Than the jades?

[ionic breach]

but preference is preference

[ionic breach]

ya

[untold wigeon]

Ok

[paper bloom]

Raw

[untold wigeon]

Yessir

[paper bloom]

There better

[untold wigeon]

But alextos doesn’t show the switches

[paper bloom]

Checj yhe

[glacial wind]

alexotos is not a he reviewer

[paper bloom]

Vendor list

There are HE

Switches

[untold wigeon]

What do I Google 😅

I’m dumb at

At

[paper bloom]

Geon RAW HE

Switch

Ausralia

[untold wigeon]

YESIR 🫡

What bottom force should I get

[kind helm]

i love when people come and just say i want the best when everything in terms of feel and sound are more or less preference

[untold wigeon]

Or is it just preference

[ionic breach]

yup

what do you have rn?

[untold wigeon]

🌝

[kind helm]

lower its easier to type but higher should be a tiny bit more smooth

[untold wigeon]

I am using a apex pro tkl but it had a manufacturer defect so I’m getting credit

Ok

I’ll prob get 50 or 60

I’m getting a custom build

[kind helm]

you can also look at what is your current switch's force then see if you want to keep it the same or change it

[untold wigeon]

Alumaze case, 60he+ module, geon raw he switches

[untold wigeon]

How do I check that?

Prob just Google it 🫠

[ionic breach]

rtings I think

[kind helm]

if you brought one that is a pre built you can see which switch that is, then just search for the switch and see what it says

[ionic breach]

steelseries gives random unspecific stats

rtings.com

[kind helm]

ahh s44t

[ionic breach]

I think it's 60?

somewhere there

[untold wigeon]

Ok

I’ll check rtings to confirm

[ionic breach]

oh nvm

[ionic breach]

it's 50s

[untold wigeon]

THEYRE 40 GF

0-0

I just found it on the web

[kind helm]

actuation is different from bottom out

[untold wigeon]

But it’s 40?

Cuz of operating idfk

🥲

[kind helm]

the point circled in red is bottom out

[untold wigeon]

So it’s 50 ish

[kind helm]

yee

[untold wigeon]

Ok

[kind helm]

young man throwing a lot of money into this horrible hobby

[untold wigeon]

I play tennis and rugby 😌

But are the raws the best?

[kind helm]

i personally enjoys lower force, just because its easier on the finger. but it makes misclicks happen more easily

raw is a solid starting point to this horrible hobby.

[untold wigeon]

Can’t actuation fix the strain on the fingers?

[kind helm]

dont worry about it too much, if you got the money 6 months later you want to try something new

its like skins in game

[ionic breach]

depends on how you physically press

I have 0.4

but I bottom out anyways

[untold wigeon]

I could just make it 0.1mm actuation so I could feel smooth but not have the strain

So what is bottom out?

[kind helm]

pressing the key all the way down

[untold wigeon]

That’s what I thought

I should probably just get apex pro tkl gen 3 with protection mode so I don’t misclick….jk

😁

Should I get someone to assemble my build since I’m so young and un educated)

[kind helm]

have you built lego before

pretty much the same difficulty level

[untold wigeon]

Ok

Is their rgb in the wooting?

[kind helm]

yes

[untold wigeon]

So I can choose to turn it on or off

Or change the colour

[kind helm]

yes

[untold wigeon]

Or make it change in real time?

[kind helm]

you can change the brightness with Fn + ; and Fn + ' if that is what you meant by real time

[untold wigeon]

Hmm, do you think the 60he+ module is enough customisations?

With the raws

They have silicone and foam and theirs a foam that comes with the case I think too

[kind helm]

well... once you start looking at sound and feel that kind of things, they are all preference, and your preference can change. but in terms of "would you get a decent keyboard with those combination of things", yes

[untold wigeon]

I can always order more to change the sound to my liking… which is why it’s a bad hobby 😔

[kind helm]

now you see

[untold wigeon]

🥳

I’m dropped my wallettttttt

I dropped my walletttt

Ohhh noooo

😅

How do you clean the inside of a pc?

It’s kinda dusty icl

[naive meteor]

Take the panel out

and

[untold wigeon]

The glass wall?

[naive meteor]

Yes

use a compressed air can

and blow out the dust

[jagged hazel]

Spray it with water

[untold wigeon]

Stfu

It’s hella dusty icl

[jagged hazel]

lol compressed air or a good soft brush works

I clean mine once a month

[low flame]

No one ever told me that burger mounting is a pain in the ass

[charred sundial]

I ordered geon raw he 60g switches and cerakey V2 keycaps for my preorderd 80he but after testing the spacebar with geon raw he on my current keyboard I don’t like how long it takes the spacebar to comeback up. Are the lekker replacement springs compatible with the geon raw he? Or does anyone have any other recommendations if not?

[glacial wind]

yeah you can put the lekker springs into it if you have some lekker v2 with stronger springs

otherwise you can buy a he spring pack with stronger springs

lekker v2 are same 60g though, so your solution is likely to buy the wooting spring pack

https://wooting.io/product/lekker-spring-packs?Weight=Linear35

can buy something like l70 or l80 depending on what you prefer for spring weight with the cerakeys

[charred sundial]

yeah this was honestly the solution i was hoping for thank you

[pastel pendant]

Anyone know some japanese website where i can buy knight v2 stabs?

Or some website where the shipping to Japan Is economic?

[glacial wind]

is swagkeys expensive for japan shipping?

i would have thought it wouldn't be too bad since it's super close to korea

[untold wigeon]

As a Cerakey owner I recommend either L80 or L100. L100 makes a nice snappy spacebar with a quick return.

@charred sundial

[stone flax]

maybe swagkeys?

[pastel pendant]

Kk ty gonna try

[pastel pendant]

Ty u too

[wintry rune]

I just got FR4 plate from KBDFANS for my wooting 60 and I’m stuck at the part where i put the plate together with the pcp again as there is no screw thingy like the stock plate

[calm pulsar]

should've ordered standoff kit

[wintry rune]

This thing where the screw goes in

[calm pulsar]

https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-m2-3-countersunk-flat-head-screw-kit

[wintry rune]

This arrived with the plate

[calm pulsar]

then you know what to do

[wintry rune]

I’m not sure how to use it tho😂

[calm pulsar]

screw em to the plate just like on wooting one, and then to pcb

[wintry rune]

I couldn’t find a guide on youtube soooo yeah

[wintry rune]

Oh ok i get it now

Thanks a lot

[fallen echo]

the pc plate without foam or silicone can compress a bit. but not enough with such light switches

[untold wigeon]

Hey does anyone here know if I’d have to snap the metal prods on Geon raw he switches to get them in the wooting 60he?

I bought linears LOL

[jade prairie]

??

[untold wigeon]

I am so clueless

Ignore me

[stone flax]

take a picture of what ur talking about

but i do think u didnt buy the right raws

are u talking about the switch pins?

[dusk sedge]

I would be using either the foam or silicone with jades. Does the foam/silicone eliminate the issue?

[stone flax]

are u by chance talking about these @untold wigeon

?

[untold wigeon]

Mhm yeah

[stone flax]

you bought mx raws

not hall effect ones

[untold wigeon]

Mhm

[stone flax]

https://geon.works/products/geon-raw-he-switch

[untold wigeon]

I contacted where I bought them from I just hope they are nice enough to let me swap

[stone flax]

🙏

[untold wigeon]

It’s so confusing having two switches of the same name, didnt even know there were mx geon raws

[stone flax]

....two?

try 10

[untold wigeon]

Oh my god

[mighty egret]

what did prah do

[stone flax]

why do u care so much

ask him urself

he's in peri

[fallen echo]

I can say that the silicon pad that I am using completely eliminates any flex. its not really an "issue" because of how light these switches are.

[loud gull]

Okay guys, I am moving to the Jade Maxes. I'm sorry to disappoint the Geon RAW church 🥲

[chilly mural]

Rip

😭

[loud gull]

It's only because I got them for free. I wouldn't of bought them for the price they are lol

[stone flax]

Its okay. You'll come back 😉

[jade storm]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-falling-shock-hank-schrader-gif-25977671

[wintry rune]

i just swapped my plate to a FR4 plate and did a tape mod, i noticed that the keys which has stabilizers have become very heavy on the press. i did re-assemble everything to make sure nothing was wrong but i still notice the enter and r-shift keys being very heavy when pressed

[fallen echo]

have you tried the raws before?

[fallen echo]

what stabilizers are in this build of yours? this sounds like either the stabs are overlubed or the spring of your switches too weak

[wintry rune]

i also swapped to the raws with the plate swap. im using the stock stabilizer for the wooting 60he+

[fallen echo]

the stock stabs shouldnt be overlubed. this is weird

[mental salmon]

Hey Guys, finally got this numpad for working along with my 60HE, the product page says it is configurable using QMK/VIA, may you please recommend me a good guide or video to check on that?

[wintry rune]

can it be a keycaps issue? weirdly when i swapped one of the keys with the stock wooting keycaps it became better

*

[fallen echo]

Possibly! Especially as you are using regular pole length stabs with long pole switches

these differences in travel definitely can cause issues

[wintry rune]

this is so sad i just got this new set of keycaps and now i have to swap them out again 😦

assuming that i don't swap the keycaps. should i worry about any possible damage to the stabs or switches ?

[robust siren]

it wont damage anything, itll just feel weird or get stuck sometimes

[loud gull]

Yeah used them for a while. But in comparison I like that the jades are a bit more quiet. I like the Jade Pro's too, as they tend to be a bit deeper and less clacky then the Raws. But I can't be bothered with the green top housing messing with my rgb

[calm pulsar]

the upper housings are interchangeable on these btw, so you can theoretically have a jade pro that is clear on rgb

[loud gull]

Yeah, it is too much effort for me 😛

Wouldn't be surprised if in a few months there will be another top of the line must get switch

[calm pulsar]

fair 😄
do you notice any stickiness with jade maxes? some people are saying that they are too sticky when pressed at an angle, but I personally haven't had issues when gaming or typing

[visual moat]

can someone send a link to the mad r major in black i want that mouse

[loud gull]

Still gotta try them out properly

[fallen echo]

you have seen the new "Jade Gamer" ones? clear top hosing and box stem

[loud gull]

Will get them soon

But I just realised the maxes are heavier. Thought 36gr is pretty light. Till I realized that it is the initial force lol. I used 40gr raws 😛

[fallen echo]

gotcha

I am on 50g myself rn

and I am kinda curious about the jade gamer ones

because I absolutely loved the jade pro sound profile

[calm pulsar]

jade pro with boxed stem, doesnt seem that good, and the boxed stem might even have worse wobble

[lunar sand]

My friends. I have some jades and KoMs I want to swap the spring since I think they are too light for me.

Do you know if it’s and easy swap or I should take special attention to which springs to get? ( springs that fit jades may not fit KoMs for example )

Any advice on which springs to get ?

[loud gull]

On the ZFX event I've heard they sound a bit worse

[charred sundial]

thanks for the tip

[stone flax]

https://usevia.app/test and u might need to do more things depending on what pad it is

[jade narwhal]

gaming jade aims to get more stability when press which may sacrifice some sound.

[marsh saffron]

What the fuck are gaming jades LMFAO

Ain't no way gateron named them that

[jade narwhal]

this is jade gaming

[fallen echo]

werent they supposed to have a diffusor in the RGB slit?

[jade narwhal]

i have seen video to compare the sound of jade, jade pro and jade gaming

[fallen echo]

Imma be honest, in the short time I have been involved in this hobby, I have seen people have so bad takes based on some tribalist affiliation, I absolutely do not take any anecdotal evidence to be valid. Especially when there are so many makers involved in the scene where batch quality can vary wildly.

[marsh saffron]

Nah this can't be their actual name right

[fallen echo]

https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-magnetic-jade-gaming-switch-set?VariantsId=10864

[marsh saffron]

Raw HE probably still clears

[fallen echo]

I said eff it and just ordered a set and will compare them myself.

[lunar sand]

where did y ou order from?

[fallen echo]

Gateron directly

[lunar sand]

damn, i get lost very easy on the gateron website 😄

did not find them ... going to search again

[fallen echo]

I mean. I just linked the product page 😉

[lunar sand]

duhhhhh

😄

"in front of your eyes, and you still can't see it" kind of situation\

😄

[tropic urchin]

I usually try to find them on the new arrivals section of their page worked for me

[fallen echo]

Its saturday. You are very much allowed to discover things in your own time 😂

[lunar sand]

ahahhaa totally @fallen echo

brain freeze active on weekends

😄

[calm pulsar]

not sure what tribalist affiliation you're talking about, I have like 6 different gateron HE switches, and this seems like a reused design with one changed variable and a marketing name

so I just expressed an opinion about how buying this when you have jade pros won't bring you anything new

I'd probably get maxes for a different twist on the jade sound, but again they seem to have issues with the dual rail thing they are pushing

[fallen echo]

Oh this isnt meant to be a hit on you, dont worry. It's just that your feedback is one datapoint of many which are overall skewed by anecdotal or second hand claims.

[calm pulsar]

fair

[lunar sand]

@fallen echo make sure to share your thoughts on the gaming switch 🙂

i think at the end of the day i need to swap springs anyway... want some 60g because of my heavy typing...

[fallen echo]

I shall! delivery time is stated as like 10-20 days so I am not sure when they will come around

[untold wigeon]

You’re welcome

[stone flax]

what the yap

the switches are bad

[spare mauve]

is there any video already about the jade gaming switches? 😮

[stone flax]

theres alr been tests

they are like worse koms

lmao

[stone flax]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1nZ1qYZEny/

[mental salmon]

Thank you so much, the only thing I had to do was connecting it directly bypassing my hub the get it working in the app, it is a MF34. I just wanted to customize the keys, and it worked perfectly 🙂

[spare mauve]

gracias

[stone flax]

glad to hear

qmk is a godsend

[lunar sand]

soooo if you want box design stem, just get KoMs or wait for KoMs POM version, is that i t?

[stone flax]

i mean they're all meh sound wise

even discounting the fact that koms and other ttc

are over a dollar a switch

if u wanted the box stem worse sound experience

which idk why anyone would want that

ig opt for the gamings

that way it isnt an arm and a leg to try

[lunar sand]

well i got a keyboard that bring the KoMs... just waiting it to arrive 😄 for the price they cost and 40 euros more, i go a new keeb to try out 😄

which is stupid 😄

[stone flax]

oh prebuilts with koms are fine

it just that cost a shit ton

by themselves

[lunar sand]

i will receibe the made84 pro before i get my 80HE sadly ... meh 😄

[stone flax]

W

[fallen echo]

https://tenor.com/view/worthless-gif-25136352

[stone flax]

its ok bro

not everyone wants the truth

[fallen echo]

sure bud. "The truth" is within a single sample on a regionally specific video

[stone flax]

me when the proof isnt proof

me when asia gets the switch before other parts of the world

🤣

[fallen echo]

"proof" is a mathematical concept. we are engaging in evidence.

[stone flax]

evidence is that its cheaper koms

will sound worse for marginal wobble improvements

case closed

go next

[fallen echo]

all you do is engage in hyperboles. look, I am not saying you are wrong, but your approach on this is about as helpful as a rabid monkey

[stone flax]

good luck bro

not giving u purchase validation

but be sure to send sound tests

would be glad to hear then

:>

[fallen echo]

I am actually considering that

[stone flax]

also if u've spent any time engaging in this hobby nuances dont really stick into 90% of peoples heads as much as hyperboles

its literally easier for everyone

[fallen echo]

I dont care about what other people do or do not consider. I will report things as I can confirm them.

not out to establish some dogmatic approach. this hobby is very subjective as it is.

[stone flax]

no duh diddy

its a preference based hobby

outside of a few subjective things people cant and shouldnt agree on preference tf

the only issues comes in stating ur preferences are objectively right

but outside of that more power to people

[fallen echo]

it would serve everyone better if you would stop engaging in hyperboles and simply state your personal preferences.

[stone flax]

?

bro talking like he know me

[fallen echo]

which is specifically what you do.

[stone flax]

🤣

[wintry rune]

regarding this matter, what profiles should i look for when buying a new set of keycaps to not face this issue

[little glen]

in the end the hobby is all about what your opinion is

[stone flax]

profiles dont matter as much as getting quality keycaps with good tolerances to the stabs

[little glen]

just some opinions are wrong

[stone flax]

uhhuh

[wintry rune]

noted. where should i be looking for quality keycaps?

[stone flax]

anything closeish to cherry spec

so that neither binding nor loose tolerances raises issues in general

but honestly

just get longer travel stabs

or get stab stem spacers

[fallen echo]

I have not had any negative experience with specific keycap sets being an issue. as long as your switches and your stabs have similar travel distance your keycap set should be fine.

[wintry rune]

im sorry but this is too complicated for a beginner like me🥲

[stone flax]

basically, looking for specific keycaps to negate actual problems with seesawing stemming from full travel stabs isnt really the way to go about it

sure it can be done to circumvent it

[wintry rune]

hopefully this issue is just caused by a bad set of keycaps so i don't have to spend more to fix it beside a new set of keycaps

[stone flax]

but its definitely easier to just directly address the problem

[crude light]

decided to change it up

[stone flax]

by removing excess travel for the stabilizers

[south flax]

After a couple of oversights on my part, I should finally be ready to put my 60HE PCB into a Holy60 case

[stone flax]

again

if u like ur keycaps

[south flax]

I have that same keycap set!!

[stone flax]

just get geon stem spacers

or long pole stabs

[wintry rune]

where can i find those

[fallen echo]

I am really curious about the holy60, because of its setup it should have like no appreciable effect on acoustics

[stone flax]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

look through here

also

what

[crude light]

oo very nice

[stone flax]

region are you

[south flax]

I’m not really aiming for a specific sound, I wanna fuck around with it and use no foam if possible

[wintry rune]

tbh i don't like them that much but it is just new set and it is from ali express so i wasn't expecting a high quality. the thing is that the problem only occurred when i swapped the plate+switches so i was worried that i messed up something as it is my first time swapping plates. anyway thank so much ❤️

[south flax]

I’m kinda prioritizing look and feel over sound

[stone flax]

u got seesawing ?

[fallen echo]

fair!

[wintry rune]

what is that

[stone flax]

what problem are u facing right now

[south flax]

This board is just the PCB attached to some FR4 plates and I like how it sounds

[wintry rune]

keys with staps feels heavy and don't bounce back same as other keys

[stone flax]

wait this is issue

what have u done so far

did u add lube

[wintry rune]

not all of them tho

[stone flax]

switch stabs

what

[stone flax]

which iones

[wintry rune]

only the ones with new set of keycaps

i tried the stock wooting keycaps and it is fine

[wintry rune]

switches + plate + tape mod

[stone flax]

and this isnt a heavier cap by any means right

no cerakeys or nothing

[wintry rune]

no a regular cherry profile keycaps

it was working fine before swapping plate and switches

i was on stock plate and gateron jades

[stone flax]

ok

try using a lekker onto one of those stabilizers u feel are heavier

and put the new cap on it

[wintry rune]

i had them on gateron before

[stone flax]

whatever u had that didnt seemingly have this problem

which were full travel?

to isolate whether its a switch or keycap or both problem

[wintry rune]

i think it is keycaps as im using the stock wooting and it is finwe

[stone flax]

yep

what caps did u even buy anyways

[wintry rune]

a weeby genshin set ::(

[stone flax]

:<

[wintry rune]

i feel embarrassed now xD

[calm pulsar]

noo I missed the gateron gaming argument

https://tenor.com/view/sad-emoji-gif-25749073

[wintry rune]

thanks a lot ❤️ @stone flax

[stone flax]

geon raw better

[fallen echo]

as a noctua customer myself I love the notion

but I couldnt get myself to use that keycap set xD

[crude light]

lol

its fantastic

i was on black speech

[south flax]

Ooooo you got the mousepad and cable too!

[crude light]

when i can get my hands on a nice wood pc case

im redoing my pc

gotta match the fans

[south flax]

Have you seen the Fractal Design North?

[crude light]

yeah

thats proably the one

[fallen echo]

I have been running loads of black noctuas on my radiators for like 5 years now. I love em.

[crude light]

just need new mobo and cpu money

i have a noctuaxasus 3070

[south flax]

I almost got the north but it was outside of my budget

[south flax]

Lucky

[crude light]

before that i was on a 1070 for yearrsss

needed the upgrade bad

[knotty iron]

cool!

[calm pulsar]

@tawdry tree I might have found an upgrade to the jade knights that eliminates the over-tightness

[solemn ice]

I'm about to order a wooting 60he+ and I was wondering if they came with the l60v2 or v1 switches

[vocal rose]

should be the v1.5 if I'm not mistaken

[solemn ice]

i cant tell if you're being serious or not, i didnt know there was a 1.5

[calm pulsar]

yes v1.5s until they run out of them and then new wootings will all have v2s

[solemn ice]

oh okay

[vocal rose]

I am >.<

[calm pulsar]

it's just a little improved v1s, but v2s are a bigger upgrade

[solemn ice]

is it worth ordering a small pack of v2s for like wasd and stuff?

[vocal rose]

hmm I suggest try it first maybe?

[calm pulsar]

I prefer closed bottom switches so can't advise on that

[stone flax]

crazy idea

type on the board

then decide

[vocal rose]

might aswell try it first maybe you like the v1.5 and no need for additional purchase

[solemn ice]

i cant really, i'm picking it up when i visit America and i wont have time to order switches in the 2 week period i'm there

[vocal rose]

performance wise they should be the same. in the end it's down to your preference if you wanna swap out the switches.

[visual moat]

hey i have aa 1070

[solemn ice]

maybe, or i could order a pack of l45s and then deside which one i prefer so there is more of a difference

[vocal rose]

that would be a big difference indeed as the L45s are lighter to press

[calm pulsar]

I say just try the stock switches, and if you want a lighter switch then order l45s

cause l45s are just a lighter spring

[stone flax]

my guy try the switches @_@

[visual moat]

can someone give me a free keyboarsd

[solemn ice]

I can't order them later though

Its either i ship with my keyboard or I dont get them

[stone flax]

so?
why buy things u may or may not like

[vocal rose]

They should be able to ship overseas in case

[stone flax]

its ur money to potentially burn

[solemn ice]

they can but $50 shipping is CRAZY

thats why im picking it up in the us

nowhere in my country stocks anything wooting i believe, i've been looking for just over a year

[vocal rose]

it's hard to suggest since it's gonna be preferential if you like the switches or not. Best we can say I think is that the performance is the same..

[solemn ice]

Alright

[calm pulsar]

you might want a whole different feeling switch later down the line, you could just order jades or geon raw he later at home

[solemn ice]

what are the jades like?

[vocal rose]

yeah Geon Raw is good. and you might be able to order that easily

[stone flax]

reduced travel pole bottom out, louder and more emphatic bottom out

[calm pulsar]

lekkers are open bottom, and third party switches like jades or raws are closed bottom, which is closer to normal mechanical keyboards in feeling and has a distinctive bottom out feel

[fallen echo]

pweeeeeeeeetty sure RAWs are open bottom

[little glen]

raw are semi open bottom

[robust siren]

theyre "half opened"

the stem hits the closed part anyways

[stone flax]

they have more in common with closed bottoms than open ones

the hole is more a slit than a hole

[fallen echo]

in my very subjective experience this is not true and they sound exactly like a more high pitched middle ground between open and closed bottoms