🔧│keyboard_modding

[calm pulsar]

lol why were you buying the springs then

[finite carbon]

sorry i meant lube switches

puting the springs is easier

than doing 'less is more'

[calm pulsar]

I only replaced thje springs on mine

raws are lubed well

[finite carbon]

yeah ive heard, i also got the opener so no big deal remove one spring put another

but lube -.-

[stable citrus]

are the swagkeys plate mounted or screew in?

[fallen echo]

screw in iirc.

[calm pulsar]

screw in

[fallen echo]

the tx ap also come as screw in option. idk why you would want anything else for the he60+

[finite carbon]

screw in is better

the shits do not move

[fallen echo]

precisely. I could understand wanting clip ins for when your pcb doesnt support screw in, but that is specifically what the 60he+ brings to the table

[finite carbon]

stock 60he+ stabs are good but sw knightsv2 are better

my stabilised keys sound better and more... stabilised

[fallen echo]

I went with tx ap and am happy with them

[finite carbon]

ill see myself out

[fallen echo]

that said, I may or may not have a set of swags on stash for... optimization considerations

[finite carbon]

there we go

[cold bloom]

neither, I have a poron deskmat I use that I don't feel like I'll change from for a while

[calm pulsar]

me too
I got knights but got unlucky with the stab wire, so decided not to bother and went for TX AP long pole clip-ins

[kindred snow]

Do you have any ideas on how to best dampen the sound of the spacebar on the 80HE Zinc Alloy? I’ve already lubricated the stabilizers and swapped the switches to L45 v2. The overall sound profile is really nice, except for that annoying loud/different sound of the spacebar.

[cold bloom]

I finally ordered the base set for cosmos tho

need gmk to be quick with my evil dolch and cosmos sets lmao

[stable citrus]

did u go with the 1.2 or 1.6mm?

[robust siren]

wootings pcb is 1.6mm

[fallen echo]

1.6

[urban harbor]

wooohoo

going straight on my 60he

[uneven cradle]

Yup

It's thinner though so just need to use more

[stone flax]

o-ring

thats why

its goated

also any pcb that supports screw in should also support clip in

idk what thats about

unless you mean platemounts instead

[stone flax]

get a deeper bar

or add dampening on it

[stray tiger]

Each has their place. Platemounted are nice for easily/quickly tuning without having to remove switches.

[stone flax]

in the cavity

[untold wigeon]

I love these caps

[cedar gate]

should i get superglide skates and if i do type c or s

[untold wigeon]

V1 only if you can find them. V2 are terrible

[sage shell]

are fellas, question

is there anyway to the wooting to sound creamy?

[cedar gate]

not really

it depends on your definition of creamy actually

[sage shell]

are we able to post links

[cedar gate]

we can basically do anything in here lol

as long as you dont spam or bully anyone

[sage shell]

https://www.instagram.com/stories/truejon/3479851636501433939?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=MTh2eGFwZmdwYW5obQ==

like this

[cedar gate]

your acc is private no one can see that

[sage shell]

yea i peeped that after i sent it

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-WetfavsAp/?igsh=cTNqazNvOTJicXdq

[cedar gate]

so thats the sound your going for

[sage shell]

yup

sounds satisfying ngl

I mean stock wooting sounds amazing too

[cedar gate]

alright that seemed poppy and clacky mostly

[sage shell]

that/creamy is perfect for me

[cedar gate]

ig geon raws would fit

[sage shell]

is that from wooting or

[cedar gate]

yeah geon raws and any thick pbt keycaps maybe with PC or POM plate

[cedar gate]

geon

[cedar gate]

what about bounce

[sage shell]

ahhhh but that wont affect rapid trigger and all that would it?

[cedar gate]

no

not noticably at least

[sage shell]

not sure what u mean by bounce ngl.. a little uneducated here

[cedar gate]

lol do you want it to bounce back up when you press to type

[sage shell]

uhh whatever is like the standard wooting keys ig

[cedar gate]

it often makes it feel like your typing on a cushion which many people like

[sage shell]

ohhh

[calm pulsar]

lol you mean spring force?

first time I see this called bounce

[cedar gate]

first time really?

first time ive heard it been called spring force

everyone around me usually calls it bounce

different word same meaning ig

[calm pulsar]

still not sure what you mean

switch topping out after bottoming out?

or the whole assembly bouncing

[cedar gate]

https://youtube.com/shorts/WYutcKI-LbE?si=1il8Su9Fa_KW2MXE

'whole assembly

[sage shell]

i think when they press it alone it sounds eh but when pressing multiple keys it sounds better

[calm pulsar]

ight

[vague stag]

would the swagkeys knight v2 work with geon raws?

[calm pulsar]

yes

[cedar gate]

Yes

Same time lol

[vague stag]

noice

[cedar gate]

Alright so bounce or no?

[calm pulsar]

are you getting the long pole version?

[cedar gate]

Yeah for raws you want LP

[sage shell]

are the wooting considered bounce?

[vague stag]

I was searching for them on delta key, but it did'nt say if they were long pole

[cedar gate]

Stock? No

[cedar gate]

Try swagkeys

[sage shell]

then I suppose no

[calm pulsar]

might grab geon stem spacers if you're getting normal ones, so that your stabs essentially become long pole

[vague stag]

trying to find a place where the shipping is not more expensive than the stabs itself 😄

[calm pulsar]

this is optional but will be a better experience

[stray tiger]

Can also just 3d print spacers as well if you have access

[cedar gate]

Maybe try this

[stray tiger]

@calm pulsar slight delay on my Midway60 HE rebuild. I got the plate but it was for 6.25u and not 7u so Ive got another otw

[sage shell]

Ok so to get the sound i would have to switch multiple things?

[sage shell]

also, i appreciate you for taking your time and helping me out. thank you 🙏

[calm pulsar]

oh so you have a 7u venom? I thought you had 6.25

well looking forward to seeing it

@stray tiger the capslock led on mine randomly started working after I did another rebuild

[stray tiger]

Yeah 7u

[stray tiger]

Oh nice!

[placid wagon]

where did you guys order your venom pcbs?

[tiny summit]

Is sorbothane better than polyfil regarding thock?🤔

[stray tiger]

No

[stray tiger]

Only available in Korea

[placid wagon]

really?

[stray tiger]

Yes. Global launch will be in the future

[tiny summit]

Ty!😄

[tropic urchin]

@stray tiger unrelated Q, do you remember how long it takes KC Quarry to ship out his caps?

[stray tiger]

No Im local so Ive never had one shipped

[tropic urchin]

Word, I’ll probably shoot em an email. Haven’t heard back from the original order email (roughly a week) or so

[calm pulsar]

is this abt your gmk set or did you order smth else?

[fluid ravine]

Heyo

[tropic urchin]

No is old news

[calm pulsar]

hye

[tropic urchin]

It’s the artisan escape key

[calm pulsar]

ah I see

[tropic urchin]

This is about the only thing I can get excited about since the white zinc is essentially not real 😭

[calm pulsar]

wait so your order was one of the cases that got delayed??

due to some case finishing issues

[tropic urchin]

There’s been a lot of not transparent communication regarding it, but it seems everyone’s white got delayed no matter what

It’s still not “100% finalized” but I’m now end of November early December so I’m pretty not happy about it

[calm pulsar]

ohh dang I remember about delays but also was thinking yours will get to you soon

[tropic urchin]

Extra 2-3 week delay and an extra 10 days to clear customs is basically mid December so I’m basically cooked

[tropic urchin]

I thought so too but it’s not on the boat 😭

[calm pulsar]

more time to break in the maxes

😭

[tropic urchin]

At this point it’ll be the RAWs

I deeply regret getting the white over the raw now

Nobody ever dropped this 2-3 extra weeks during the confirm if you want to ship as is or not so I just feel like my unit doesn’t actually exist now

[fluid ravine]

Flex cut ahhh board

I wish I had a board flex like that (☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞

But at the same time I dont

[calm pulsar]

maybe it exisis, but the case will be redone

[tropic urchin]

They def shouldn’t have sent out the decision 2 weeks ago bc it means nothing now

[calm pulsar]

tbh this flex doesn't look even, which kinda feels off

[fluid ravine]

I mean the whole assembly isn't moving

It's really just the flex cuts flexing inwards

I much prefer bounce over flex

[tropic urchin]

I have a strong hatred of Hipyo now tho @calm pulsar that mfer literally griefed my unit

[calm pulsar]

same

[stone flax]

disgusting 1.2mm perkey flex cuts + cuts on plate moment

😭

[fluid ravine]

Cus yknow flex cuts in pcb requires a thinner pcb while making the board sound thinner

[fluid ravine]

EXACTLYYY

[fluid ravine]

[calm pulsar]

lol did he scratch his or what?

[tropic urchin]

He started the scratch train hysteria

[calm pulsar]

damn I mean I remember Cam and Thockfather showing it can be cleaned so I thought it wasnt a big deal

[tropic urchin]

It really isn’t

More likely to get chipped via uncareful fulfillment ppl, but I digress 🙃

I’m a generational hater of that man now

[fluid ravine]

yeah when i was a newbie he was entertaining for a bit

but now i kindda think of him annoying

in a way

annoying how? idk

[calm pulsar]

the shorts were the last straw for me

[tropic urchin]

He’s newspaper sensational annoying and plays it up

[fluid ravine]

Dude his shorts are beyond annoying

99% yapping

1% sound test

[tropic urchin]

He was great until he turned on his face cam

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[tropic urchin]

Now he might as well be a clash of clans youtuber

[fluid ravine]

xddd

[tropic urchin]

Fuck Hipyo

[fluid ravine]

Ngl the flex cut between the alphas and num row scared me for a moment

like shit i like my bounce in my board but the thing missing for it is how soft it feels when typing

[cedar gate]

He's a clash of clans goblin

[cedar gate]

Yeah I think that might be too much flex

[tropic urchin]

Bros out here causing irl harm for white zincs world wide

[fluid ravine]

flex*

[calm pulsar]

@stone flax and that fire hazard keyboard

[strange dove]

Hey guys question, my keyboard arrived fine and all but when I installed the custom take control key caps the space bar gets stuck, what should I do it’s almost unusable

[untold wigeon]

Make sure it’s not the stabilizer

[gaunt plume]

Tough question.
Maybe a Geon Raw HE or a Gateron Jade Max with many rubs.

[cold bloom]

new geon stream is kinda interesting, seems he's working on a new HE switch that is all black with a box stem

fully closed bottom this time too

can't find a good photo yet without his fingers all over the place

[calm pulsar]

yeah this is getting bought immediately

[cold bloom]

Yup

[calm pulsar]

@polar girder btw all black switch from Geon
closed bottom tho lul

[cold bloom]

he said he's waiting on a 2nd test batch after some mold and lube improvements

[robust siren]

Geon Raw Cooked

[cold bloom]

Geon Burnt

HE

[calm pulsar]

the box stem seems like on black knights which wasnt that good on wobble, hopefully it is improved

[cold bloom]

yeah agreed, will def wait and see how his final streams of them are before buying but I'm sure they'll be great

[tropic urchin]

Geon Dark Knights

[cold bloom]

sounds like he thinks the wobble will be somewhere between raptor HE and Raw HE? @calm pulsar the translations are bugging a bit tho

I think he meant Raw HE not Low H?

[calm pulsar]

yeah makes sense to compare between his own switches

[cold bloom]

yeah I would think so

[calm pulsar]

I wonder if it is going to be very similar to jades with that fully closed bottom, or if he's done something interesting in there

[cold bloom]

He's using 3204 now for lube too I think he said

which is nice

I would expect they will be similar to jades

but we'll see

I think he was saying there was only 2 OEMs that had the patent for the fully closed bottom housing mold, gateron and one grain gold worked with?

It's getting lost in translation a bit, but I think he's working with that other OEM now

[calm pulsar]

iirc raws are produced by grain gold?

could be mistaken

[cold bloom]

that would make sense then

with this

[calm pulsar]

ohh I see, interesting

[cold bloom]

not perfect but I think I get what he's saying

[calm pulsar]

so if the design of the closed bottom is unchanged it probably is similar to deng gods?

[cold bloom]

Not sure but I'd guess so

could always be a slightly different blend etc, he also said the 3204 makes them feel a bit heavier so that should be interesting

[calm pulsar]

damn I would love if geon did smth there to the design to have an even sharper MX-like bottom out, but also there's probably nothing else to really do

if there was a plastic pin it would be smashed by the magnet in time lol

[cold bloom]

the modded nixies/blacks I got have 3204 as lube, it feels really good

[calm pulsar]

that's nice

[cold bloom]

I also wondered that about HE stems

like what about an insert like nk cream plus switches

[vagrant condor]

Any Geonworks Raw users in chat?

[cold bloom]

could be the actual magnet or the magnet could be deep to it, idk

[cold bloom]

tons

[calm pulsar]

yes

raw gang

[vagrant condor]

Do they need lub or are they good out of the box?

[cold bloom]

We need a Raw HE emote

[cold bloom]

pretty good out of the box, I might lube the springs eventually but not in a rush since I don't type on it much

[calm pulsar]

no need to lube the housings for sure, the springs you might lube

[cold bloom]

I wonder if newer batches or the new HE switch might come with the pingless springs?

[vagrant condor]

Thanks guys!

[calm pulsar]

yeah I wonder that too, I still can't hear any ping on mine
I did lube them mistakenly but still some time has passed

[cold bloom]

same mine are fine so far

but I haven't used it a ton

[vagrant condor]

Mine are getting shipped and will probably arrive end of October I’m hyped

[cold bloom]

I need to give my wooting a bit more love with some new mods lmao

It needs a new light weight case so bad, frog mini leggera where tf are youuuu

[calm pulsar]

my biggest mod I've done so far to my build is venom60he lmao

but I'm planning to just build my wooting with jade pros or maxes and just have it ready to just quickly swap in the frog mini

[vagrant condor]

Seen as I’m opening my keyboard are their any mods worth doing to my 80HE, I got the zinc one

[polar girder]

Meh

Might as well tho lol

[calm pulsar]

there are preorders on geonworks.kr starting soon, there's a page and price is known

[cold bloom]

hmm interesting, I think I'll wait till it's on the global site but that's a good sign anyway

I really with the tray mount one came in acrylic too, that one looks so clean

I'll probably just go with black tho to match my gmk evil dolch 60% set I got for it

[calm pulsar]

you'll be like me with a geon case and keycaps

[polar girder]

Yeah I went deep and quiet and think closed bottom are not that

But they’re probably super nice switches

[jagged hazel]

Got 'em

[lunar sand]

i'm still waiting for mine 😦 it's already in my country but the damn delivery company has them on waiting list due to a surge of delivery requests...

[cold bloom]

yup, I'll prob get the venom60HE pcb eventually but we'll see

[jagged hazel]

Mine came in 2 days to NY

[lunar sand]

where from ?

[jagged hazel]

Korea

Just put them in. 100% worth it

[cold bloom]

same for me to Alberta

[jagged hazel]

Nice

[cold bloom]

DHL shipping can be super fast, but they usually charge me a bit for duties/brokerage but it's nowhere near as bad as UPS

[jagged hazel]

Yeah, shipping came out to about $25 USD for me

[cold bloom]

yeah it was around there for me but they usually charge another like 10-15$ for duties/brokerage fees to clear it across the border, just an annoying part of buying anything international

UPS charges wild prices tho and if they don't inform you of it on delivery so you don't know you have to pay it they'll even send a collections notice to you

[jagged hazel]

UPS has always been so slow for me

[cold bloom]

UPS for me domestically inside Canada is great

but internationally they suck

in my experience

[jagged hazel]

Fair, I just prefer to get stuff as fast as possible. DHL is nice, just the shipping cost that I hate

But man, these raw feel and sound so good

[cold bloom]

Yeah I agree faster is best, fedex/DHL are usually fastest for me, and charge reasonably lmao

but yeah the Raw HEs are great

I find the lower stem wobble is really nice for gaming switches, I am more tolerant to wobble when I am typing I find

[jagged hazel]

Same, plus the smoothness is really great

Doesnt feel as harsh as the stock switches

[polar girder]

Is there a name for those black geons or just a live stream screen shot?

Any materials listed

[cold bloom]

nothing yet just protos

just his last YT stream

[polar girder]

Did I see a box stem?

[cold bloom]

yes

closed bottom tho Bigs

close ur eyes

[polar girder]

I knowwww

PAIN

[cold bloom]

LOL

ur an interesting dude

[polar girder]

yeah sad lol

[cold bloom]

but I respect it

[polar girder]

It still tempting to try lol

Thanks bro

[cold bloom]

yesss

do it

you could always swap the bottoms

[viral vine]

anyone know any divinikey discount codes

[cold bloom]

no but their thanksgiving sale should be next month

[viral vine]

theyre autumn sale is going on rn

[cold bloom]

ohh ok

better than nothing

[viral vine]

ye js wonderin

[polar girder]

You think?

[cold bloom]

maybe for raptors?

not sure

will have to see

if not prob lekkers, they look similar to gateron bottom housings

[polar girder]

Hmm yeah idk about swapping open bottom with closed bottom

[cold bloom]

yeah just meant if you really wanted to try

I'm sure they'll be great stock

[polar girder]

I do have the stem swapped raptors and BK at this point

Kind of over swapping parts but also kind of always open to it lolzzz

[cold bloom]

yeah I feel you lol

I don't mind swapping parts of switches but mostly only do it for spacebars now a days

I find you can really change the overall sound of a board by adjusting the spacebar sound cause it's so frequent and between so many keystrokes

[calm pulsar]

my jade knights are still in the drawer lol

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/pain-bot-all-i-know-is-pain-in-pain-gif-13783394

[calm pulsar]

sounded super clean but gateron stem in a gold grain housing was too tight in some switches

[polar girder]

Yeah exactly

I’m kind of over that shit

[cold bloom]

I still have my unopened set of 70 black jades lmao

I feel like I'm gonna be sitting on them forever

[polar girder]

lol I think I would feel the same way if I bought RAW’s

Respectfully

[untold wigeon]

Up for a trade?

[cold bloom]

for?

[untold wigeon]

Nah just joking. I need to take a break from spending money

[cold bloom]

lmao same

[shadow fern]

🔥🔥🔥

bluetooth slot

[low flame]

Man my keyboard sounds terrible any advice I put 3 layers of tape mod a tofu 60 case with a brass weight and jade switches

Also don’t mind the clutter on my desk I spent hours building this

I also tried to burger mount the board but the o rings where too thick

[kind helm]

steel plate?

[barren wasp]

I think it sounds good

[robust siren]

get a keyboard mat or a large mousepad

it greatly changes the sound

imo

[fluid ravine]

although it can alter the sound just by a lil bit in pitch it really doesn't make a huge difference, like it's noticeable but it doesn't like change how it "sound"

I use a Felts KeebMat and the biggest change on notice is it's pitch being more brighter

[fluid ravine]

tactile experience right there

better savor that moment

[shadow fern]

@low flame pudding keycaps will always sound like dick

I used to rock them on nearly everything in my RGB days and it's impossible to have good sounds with them.

[balmy temple]

Thats the new flex edition!

[tiny summit]

Has anyone thought that the geon raw he's need switch film, or not worth it?🤓

[low flame]

I am using the pudding keycaps I might switch to pom pom jellies and switch my plate to f4

[low flame]

You’re absolutely right they do sound like horse dick🤮

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/caught-in-4k-meme-sus-gif-12038320933253907802

[slate fox]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-cat-eyebrow-cat-meme-sus-dwayne-johnson-gif-14343467910353677310

[robust siren]

why horse dick specifically

https://tenor.com/view/sup-girl-eyebrows-gif-25755293

wrong one

whatever

[near barn]

keyboard lubers i need help!

just did a switch + spring swap from my jades back to lekker v2 with 70g springs

every key is fine except for my switches with stabs, it feels like it's a bit stuck when i bottom out, and when released it kind of shoots back up

is this normal? or is it because i didn't lube my springs or something else

[fluid ravine]

keyboard lubers

[near barn]

lubers or modders all the same 😄

[fluid ravine]

There could be lube/grease leaking out onto your pcb from your stabs

so you may need to check that out

if there is just wipe it off

[fluid ravine]

na

[robust siren]

i go in raw no lube

wait

[fluid ravine]

[cold bloom]

hauntson knows the pain

it's not fun

wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy

that like tacky effect it makes is the worst, esp when you have to remove all the switches to fix it

[near barn]

im gonna cry

[fluid ravine]

still going through it rn

[cold bloom]

(s)pain

[near barn]

u said tacky and it literally describes it

[cold bloom]

yeah it's not fun

you just have to basically disassemble everything

unless you have plate mount stabs

and wipe off the pcb under the stab, and maybe give the bottom of the stab a quick wipe

[near barn]

but the wooting80 comes preinstalled with screw in stabs 😭 😭😭

[cold bloom]

ahhh right

[robust siren]

well you dont have to remove every switch

[cold bloom]

def easier

if it's a wooting pcb you can just unscrew the pcb from the plate

you don't have to take the screws out

that's more of an MX thing I guess

it happened to me on an MX board so I forgot haha

[robust siren]

for my 60he sw knights i just took off the keycaps and separated the pcb from the plate

[cold bloom]

yeah exactly

that's the nice thing about HE boards

[jade storm]

@stone flax

[low flame]

Fucker I see the emote🤨

https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-im-watching-you-i-am-watching-you-wwe-watch-out-gif-25856329

[stone flax]

ass keycaps and idk what u were trying to with tape mod but its not gonna change a board from sounding ass to not ass

[low flame]

Gotcha

[low flame]

I hate the keycaps too Imma get ceramic keycaps or pom pom jellys

[stone flax]

as if thatd help

🫡

6️⃣7️⃣

[low flame]

What do you recommend?

[stone flax]

what sound did u say u want

[low flame]

Thockyyy!!!!!

I should’ve never picked the jades😭

Every one says get jades

[stone flax]

jades are fine

switches arent the only decider for sound

[low flame]

Now I’m stuck with this lego brick sounding mf

[low flame]

Ahhhh okay

[stone flax]

thick dyesub pbt

[low flame]

Aight

[stone flax]

or.. the half baked product that is cerakeys

if u like paying for proof of concepts

[stone flax]

or a taller profile with similar thicknesses

@low flame what plate is this

[low flame]

Default most other plates sound like ass or out of stock

[low flame]

Do you recommend f4, aluminum or pom or carbon fibre?

[ionic breach]

pc

[ionic breach]

default as in?

[stone flax]

pc/pp

pom can work too yea

[low flame]

The stock wooting

[ionic breach]

60he+ or 60he?

module or not module

[low flame]

Yeah the 60he+ with everything included

[ionic breach]

thats steel

which isnt great for what u like

find one thats what mj reccomends

[lunar lion]

can i use TX AP Screw-in Stabilizers for the Wooting 60HE+ Module?

[quasi hinge]

yes

use long pole 1.6 for jades or raws

I know because I have them installed

in my 80he too

[lunar lion]

bet bet ty

[quasi hinge]

Gateron is refunding the Jade Maxs and asked for me to send them over

Hopefully they can figure out the 'sticky' issue

and they will send me new maxs

im surprised by their customer service

I love the raws in my 80he

so they will need a miracle haha

[vast oxide]

Hi i would like to ask is it worth it to lube the lekker v1 or just get jade pros would be better

Or do they sound similar tbh

[kind helm]

rawww

lekker and jade pro sound different, lekker v1 is very difficult to make sound good i think

[vast oxide]

So u would recommend jade pros right?

[kind helm]

if you haven't brought the jade pros, i would recommend rawww

not to discourage you to try jade pro but raw is cheaper and its very good, so if you are just getting into the hobby, might as well save a little bit of money and see if you enjoy raw he first. also just because raw he is cheaper, doesn't mean the quality is worse. but all just my personal opinion :3

[random loom]

Glory to geon and all he touches

[kind helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju4kxa8C0_c note that his setup(case, deskmat, whatever mod he did inside the keyboard) can affect the sound. but you can focus on the different between each switch and see if you prefer one over the others

[quasi hinge]

get the Geon Raws

[quasi hinge]

praise be upon Geon

[random hull]

cheap cables arrived, probably wont work with the 80HE but they're here now so eh.. they do look real nice though.. for what I paid for it

80HE is a month+ out so cant test it anytime soon sadly

[fallen echo]

I have the jade pros. I like them. BUT the housing is a major issue for RGB fidelity, if you care about that.

so if you want the sound-profile of jades, I seriously recommend considering the max over the pro

that said, Geon RAWs are not only cheaper, they are also on par if not better quality wise

[calm pulsar]

maxes have concerns with being sticky when pressing
quite a bit of ppl reported that, but I personally havent had issues

raws would be a better option than maxes

[stone flax]

raws

🥩

[ionic breach]

🔥

[fallen echo]

sounds like factory overlubed?

[calm pulsar]

no its not that
PC stem on PC housing + dual rail has too much friction

and when it comes to rgb raws let out a lot of light too

[inner wren]

What color should i go with when buying the Tofu60 Redux for my wooting my setup is mostly black and the table is wood

[ionic breach]

the one u like more

wood is also quite generic

without context its hard to know what kind

all the grays
mocha
black

[inner wren]

Ill just go with black and some good looking keycaps

[ionic breach]

wouldn't the deskmat colour matter more?

get black ya

[inner wren]

Alright👍

[untold wigeon]

Oh deer!

[untold wigeon]

Why are you using such a small desk mat?

[inner wren]

exactly i should get one the size of my table right lmaooo

2m x 80cm

[untold wigeon]

lol.

[somber roost]

@sweet oak

[sweet oak]

Friends

So many doe and fawns

[somber roost]

a deer mom and her kid came to visit out garden the other day, they were just relaxing for a few hours haha

[sweet oak]

Fawns are so fluffy as babies, its so cute when they bleat its like they’re a squeaky toy

[somber roost]

yeah haha

[calm pulsar]

hi 👋 🦌

[fluid ravine]

Deer!

[untold wigeon]

Yeah we are at a friends cabin. They just stand right next to you and stare. Totally desensitized. Pretty neat though. They don’t come around my home often.

This one I’m in my car and she’s like 5 feet away. Never moved no matter how much I did.

[chilly mural]

shikanokonokonoko koshitantan

[jade storm]

up 2 u

[jade storm]

how are youi

[silk hound]

Hi how are you

[jade storm]

i'm okay you?

[sweet oak]

https://tenor.com/view/deer-buck-stag-shikanoko-shikanoko-nokonoko-koshitantan-gif-17301713205920170507

[kind helm]

maybe this is what wooting needs, keep everything in place with maximal flex

👀 g string plate

[little glen]

too much flex is bad for HE

[kind helm]

with the screw and plate the switches will most likely stay in place, its not like the plate doesn't "lock" the switches in place

[fluid ravine]

Doing alright
I'm in art class rn

Just sketching yknow

[jade storm]

that's fire

[fluid ravine]

Might as well be plate less

[jade storm]

wish i learned how to draw/sketch

are you going to get glass?

[crimson sky]

those plates SUUUUUCK found sound btw

[gaunt plume]

It's so big!
Japanese deer are small🦌

[stone flax]

this would be bad

[untold wigeon]

That’s just a fawn though

[robust siren]

ive been here a few years ago, i still cant get the smell out of my head 😭

[crimson sky]

they always have the dots in summer

[kind helm]

👀 why? the sound would just be like plate less, but its not necessarily bad and can be toned down with plate foam

[crimson sky]

US ones are not that much larger than japanese ones though

[stone flax]

bc it fucks with actuation and accuracy

[crimson sky]

it won't be like plateless

also that is exactly the kind of plate that would be bad for sensing

[kind helm]

yeee maybe after the key press, when the pcb bounce back up the rapid trigger would go brrrrrrrrrrrrrr

👀 but what if i have something like the leaf spring that kinda allow bounce but also supports the pcb from below. rn I only used two of the screws between pcb and plate and i haven't noticed an issue.

[fallen echo]

I am torn between a black pc and white pc plate. aesthetics vs functionality. any input?

[crimson sky]

it's the same thing just a different color

if you use RGB i'd go for white

[hoary gyro]

got these bad bois otw for my 80he when it arrives

[crimson sky]

[left depot]

beecaps

[hoary gyro]

to pair with gmk carbon r3!

[cedar gate]

Woah your really good

[cedar gate]

It actually looks cool tho

[hoary gyro]

they fit the carbon theme haha

[raw oriole]

For the tofu60 redux, what's the difference between the e-coating white and the "new" e-coating white?

[robust siren]

probably coating process or new type of paint

[fluid ravine]

Thanks

This is not what I expected from learning how to draw human body proportions

[raw oriole]

Will the fr4 or carbon fiber plates from kbdfans make a thockier sound than the pc plate that comes with the 60he+ module?

[fluid ravine]

Nope

Diff plate materials will define it's pitch and frequency

Not really define how it sounds as a whole

[shadow fern]

Flex is shit for sound

[cedar gate]

Fr4 makes it slightly thockier and clacky

It's one of my favorite plates because of the mix of thock and clack

If you want more thock I would go with PC tho

[kind helm]

that is the first time i heard someone say "thockier and clacky"

[untold wigeon]

Go Pom

[kind helm]

lower and higher at the same time

[cedar gate]

It's like a mix tho

[raw oriole]

This is really helpful thanks. I'll stick with the PC plate in the module then

[cedar gate]

Not super clacky and not super thocky

[cedar gate]

Didn't I give you that diagram lol

[kind helm]

its a screenshot from keybored's video, you can check out his videos, hes pretty scientific with stuff which i personally like.

[cedar gate]

I must have given it to someone else with a doge pfp lol

[cedar gate]

Yeah I got it from keyboreds vid too

[stone flax]

inclination towards the most substanceless takes

everything is a mix of thock and clack

brass is a mix of thock and clack

pp is

abs is

steel is

pom is

what does that even mean 😢

[calm pulsar]

most of the time I feel like people have no idea what they're talking about

[stone flax]

fr

[kind helm]

since "thock" and "clack" are not really meaningful, i always just automatically translate that to "low pitch" and "high pitch". but yea, there are multiple things in the keyboard that are have vibration.

[stone flax]

if someone starts talking like this you just know they got some of the most stank takes of all time

😭 yummy

using buzz words to describe buzzwords supplemented by more buzzwords

surely that wont detract from what it is ur trying to convey

[cedar gate]

Yeah actually that's a better term

[cedar gate]

Fr4 is a medium pitch

[stone flax]

💀

[cedar gate]

🤣🤣🤣

[cedar gate]

Go pom

[stone flax]

then again thats only one piece of the pie

[kind helm]

creamy i just think mid tone which is kinda bs in a way, because its a range thats just up to whoever to decide

[stone flax]

factor in if its thin sounding or full, loud or quiet, etc etc

like ffs

[cedar gate]

I think he just wanted you to make him spend a lot of money

[stone flax]

people latch onto the buzzwords bc theyre genuinely just too lazy to describe the sound they want tbh

[kind helm]

ah volume and echo

[calm pulsar]

yeah when it comes to stabs I think it's better to choose them based on how easy it is to tune them rather than sound

[stone flax]

building for sound is also so trite and especially fucking useless if u have nothing to compare towards

so newbies really shouldnt be dumping all efforts into it and neglecting the two other factors: looks and feel which are much easier to predict or outright decide

[calm pulsar]

I learned that when I did a ton of dumb mods to my wooting with lekkers and it wasnt great, but then jades came out and I was shook by how different it was just by changing switches

[stone flax]

this is what building for sound looks like

insanity

[kind helm]

thats too much

[calm pulsar]

at the end of the day it probably is dead sounding because every single variable is foamed, dampened, taped

[stone flax]

nooo man!!! this specific foam combination makes it a perfect blend of thock and cream

grrrrr

[calm pulsar]

nah just by looking at it it has 25% clack and 69% dream cream

[kind helm]

bro

[untold wigeon]

Go Pom

[kind helm]

😂 yall are fcked

[untold wigeon]

You all keep your cream away from me.

[cedar gate]

Yeah stabs don't make a huge difference to sound I pick them based on ease of use and stability

[stone flax]

cheap and ease and use case

literally nothing else

[cedar gate]

I am genuinely curious what he meant by dreamy tho did he want it to cure his insomnia

[vague stag]

Personally I like this community mostly for the good advice and pointer, do’s and don’ts, fun mods to try etc. Especially as a noobie like myself. But all in all, it’s preference, thocky, shmocky, dreamy or creamy. Just let ppl play around and do their thing. Nothing is wrong unless u break something. Stay safe

[calm pulsar]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[kind helm]

yep, its not that serious, after a few basic thing like lubing and getting better switches, the board would be decent already

[calm pulsar]

I agree, it's just sometimes when ppl want to replace their perfectly functioning stabs, I want to mention to them that it's not necessary

or filming switches with good tolerances for example, etc

[kind helm]

sometimes when i say better i think about a imaginary person that likes ticks and wobbly switch and hollow sound

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/caught-in-4k-meme-sus-gif-12038320933253907802

[kind helm]

btw my long pole stab just arrived i am too lazy to lube them

[calm pulsar]

thankfully it's not 61 switches

[kind helm]

i used to enjoy lubing switches when i was doing master. rn i am doing my phd i am like helll nah

😭 ain got time for that

[calm pulsar]

thankfully most switches these days don't need lubing, at least initially

[kind helm]

yep

i think i only had to lube akko stuff and some gateron stuff

oil king was good out of the box, and i am content with the he switches i got

[fallen echo]

I've checked the geon RAWs I am using right now for lube and they are fine.

[stone flax]

people ruin perfectly good things in the name of thock

[compact prawn]

does lubing make a significant difference

[kind helm]

depends

the stuff that are newer are usually factory lubed. some are good. but some stuff lubed no lubed are two very different world

[compact prawn]

how about the geon raw he's

[kind helm]

^

[compact prawn]

ah gotcha I missed that

[glacial wind]

they are lubed by the tears of angels, very lubricated. I'd bag lube the springs though

[kind helm]

the stuff that needs lube is like mx milky yellow that came out i dont even remember how many years ago, that made a world of different. :3

[compact prawn]

appreciate the advice 🔥

[kind helm]

when i used to lube springs i just squeeze a drop of lube from the syringe then spam it a couple times

[vague stag]

Ruin how? As in break/destroy perfectly good components, or in ruin the natural sound of the board?

[kind helm]

for the 3 config i tried, pc > fr4 > fr4 with poron foam. i think fr4 needs a different switch than raw

maybe something deeper

[calm pulsar]

I have fr4 with poron rn, no case foam, let me record it

[calm pulsar]

is yours recorded on a phone?

[kind helm]

recorded with this

[calm pulsar]

I have a fifine too, ight

[kind helm]

with poron for me is like if everything sounds like r1(the first row) then its good, with fr4 alone its like if everything sounds like r4 then its good.

[buoyant veldt]

Anyone have suggestions for stabilizers with ws dashes?

[calm pulsar]

geon stem spacers

[calm pulsar]

yeah I might try without poron, just wanted to insert it for the spacebar, but might not need for alphas

[kind helm]

lack of better word, with poron kinda sound weak or dead to me :3

[calm pulsar]

do you find it too hollow in salvation? I think Dr Dave added some polyfill to his

[kind helm]

i have cotton but i dont wanna try it without tape mod and i am too lazy to do tape mod now :3

[calm pulsar]

I feel like tape mod reflects the sound from the pcb back to you so if you use it with foam the effect is less noticeable

[tropic urchin]

Dreamy poron

[whole obsidian]

do you have any sound test for gateron raw's ?

he

[calm pulsar]

this is geon raw he

[kind helm]

foam less is kind of a mood though

[whole obsidian]

oh my god im so dumb

[tropic urchin]

Id love to see some Gateron Raws

Maybe that should be my new name

[whole obsidian]

what fr4 plate are you using btw?

[kind helm]

thats the frog?

[calm pulsar]

yes

[calm pulsar]

this is an fr4 plate for frog mini case

there are fr4 sold on aliexpress or kbdfans

[whole obsidian]

do you have any link please

[kind helm]

a bit more muted than salvation or maybe just me putting it too close

[kind helm]

if you are in the us i think buy from divinikey is better

[calm pulsar]

yeah that ^

[whole obsidian]

i've had this in my cart so it's good?

[kind helm]

kbdfan shipping is 25 dollars for me

kinda nutty

[whole obsidian]

im from france actually so the divinikey shippiing is like 50e or smth

[rose elm]

Hey! I have a question for u gauys. If i buy Gateron Jade Switch and put it in wooting everyyhing is gonna work? Like: 0.1mm, rapid trigger, rappy sanppy

?

[calm pulsar]

keep in mind this is a denser plate than the one that comes with the module, so it might sound brighter

[kind helm]

😂 try to see if theres a eu vendor that has it, i think thats way too expensive

[calm pulsar]

kbdfans have their stuff on aliexpress too, maybe cheaper shipping

[whole obsidian]

but i'll still be closer to your sound than with the wooting original stuff?

[buoyant veldt]

What about third party stabilizers? Do I need long pole stabilizers for the dashes?

[kind helm]

plus personally with raw i think pc plate is better. i think fr4 needs a deeper sounding switch that counter out the higher pitch that comes from the plate and the tight mounting

[calm pulsar]

stem spacers make your original stabs essentially long pole

[whole obsidian]

it's cheaper for me to buy everything on kbdfans prices on aliexpress are more expensive

[calm pulsar]

fair

[whole obsidian]

yeah but with raw he ?

fr4 is better than pc or not ?

[kind helm]

😭

[calm pulsar]

if you're gonna be getting a tofu redux probably keep the pc plate

[whole obsidian]

okay i'll keep it that's what im about to do

[kind helm]

fck man, i dont wanna switch to pc but pc sounded better

😭

this hobby sucks out all my time and money

[whole obsidian]

tbh keeping the original wooting pc plate is easier i don't have to remove it and do all stuff

[fluid ravine]

Yes

[kind helm]

isnt 0.1 supposedly inconsistent

i never tried it but thats what i saw online

[calm pulsar]

I never switched from 0.1 on my wooting

[kind helm]

i have always used .4 actuation and .2 rapid trigger like shown in the valorant settings recommendation in wootings video. all keys same way cause i was too lazy to map things out

sometimes i randomly updraft as Jett in val but thats more due to my CSGO monkey brain kicking in

👀 has anyone tried plateless with sticky rice bottom housing?

i just learned that they got a interesting bottom housing with the clipin legs

this my pc plate from wooting

[cedar gate]

It's just a normal spacebar🤣

[devout torrent]

these fuckers are so hard to get out becuase of them

[kind helm]

i just pulled the raws out of my fr4 plate, my fingers hurt i am scared to think about what would happen if i use them

but did you try plateless with these

i think it would work

[stone flax]

geon raw he better

[jade narwhal]

i prefer to pull out switch after dividing the pcb and plate.

its easier

but if use the switch with clipin leg, maybe i will never try to change the switch😇

[kind helm]

i would have one finger prodding beneath the pcd because i am absolutely braindead with pulling switch

😭

i meant plate not pcb

[jade narwhal]

yeah u can fold a piece of paper and put on ur hand

which can protect ur finger

[kind helm]

i was doing that when i pulled from pc plate

fr4 plate i had to use just finger because its stiffness needed more force

my nails look like s44t rn

[rose elm]

can u send wich one u mean?

[stone flax]

geon raw he

comes in 3 diff spring weights

[jade narwhal]

50g the god

[thorn zealot]

Huge

[fallen echo]

yes, everything will work. Be aware, Gateron Jades are long pole. you want to also buy long pole stabilizers to avoid a discrepancy in travel length. you might luck out and not struggle with that but better not risk it.

that said, as others have said, Geon RAW HEs are qualitatively way above the jades, dont affect your RGB fidelity and are cheaper.

[viral vine]

what would make my kb more clacky

[raw oriole]

I'm in a similar spot, looking to build a 60he+ module, which stabilizers would you recommend for switches with a shorter travel distance?

[fallen echo]

I've used TX AP 1.6 long poles in my build. Others have recommended Swagkeys Knight

[stone flax]

long poles

it should specify

[kind helm]

i am kinda impressed by tx ap, the connection between the wire to the stab is hella tight. i was scared of bending the wire when i snap on the stab

[raw oriole]

Will I need to lube the TX ap or are they pre lubed?

[fallen echo]

you will need to lube them

[stone flax]

get knights

https://youtu.be/njD64DV5iHw?feature=shared

i eat knights for breakfast lunch and dinner

[kind helm]

me no understand japanese

[raw oriole]

Watching the sound test I was like damn the Knights are so loud and then they whipped out the Knights V2 and they didn't make any noise

[stone flax]

arrows other way around

typeplus are best in his tests but arent compatible with regular 60 plates due to housing width

[kind helm]

noise like volume or like scratchy(there shouldn't be any pretty much regardless which one of them since you will lube them, no?)

[raw oriole]

Can I get the Knights v2 anywhere that won't cost me $20 in shipping?

Florida, usa

Sorry

[kind helm]

i overlubed the fck out of my stabs oops... gotta spam them a couple times🤡

[stone flax]

as in tick/rattle/etcc

[stone flax]

divinikey

most vendors actually

Novelkeys

knckeys

lol

[kind helm]

when they are dry or lubed?

[robust siren]

mechanicalkeyboards

[kind helm]

if they are good dry then god damn they good :3

[stone flax]

the video literally has chapters

showing

[kind helm]

wait mb

i skipped

i am on https://en.key-test.ru/ spamming my keys🤡

the label "unbalanced wire" just meant he didn't manually balance them right, no way man intentionally put a unbalanced wire in there for testing

[stone flax]

no wirebalancing

[stone flax]

he did

cause all stabs sound good with wire balance and lube lmao

unstraightened wire looks more into how well each mechanism serves to isolate and remove rattle/tick

[kind helm]

i never trusted myself to manually do wire balance

ahh

[stone flax]

be it through how the wires clipped/use of silicone/injections

[kind helm]

i always thought its just the same type of structure and better result achieved through better packaging and better precision in manufacturing

[stone flax]

packaging matters for making it so that wires that were previously balanced stay balanced

tolerances do also matter

[kind helm]

when i just got into this hobby i think i brought a set of stabs from some big site and they came in a plastic bag. the spacebar wire was bent like crazy

[stone flax]

but the stabs noted in the video use different typa stab mechanisms

[kind helm]

[stone flax]

like clipping from the top/bottom

tpu injections

that stuff

[kind helm]

tpu injection?

[stone flax]

leads to diffferent ways of tackling tick

[stone flax]

yeah or silicone

all diff ways

[magic venture]

does it seem right to me that lekker v2 l60 is quieter than gateron jade and lekker v1?

[marsh saffron]

Yeah

[magic venture]

they are very nice, they suit me better than gateron jade

I now plan to slightly improve the rattling in the stabilizers

[marsh saffron]

I wanna redo my stabs

[kind helm]

W thanks man, learned something new

[knotty iron]

Raw HE 50g switches are in

[stone flax]

a better visualization of adaptive stabs

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/882021563560521759/1280197258608119829/image0.gif

cool way of circumventing tick without nigh perfect balancing or grease because

[kind helm]

ahh flex little thingy to keep things in place.

[stone flax]

the silicone will literally bend to account for the wire meaning tiny imbalances in its straightness dont become a large issue

this’d mean less noticeable ticking and most often less lube required compared to more traditional stabs

[kind helm]

its like a more properly implemented holee

[stone flax]

not really

holee’s was more often done as a hackjob against rattle in that it literally forced tighter tolerances in the stem hole

if u had a badly bent wire it was not gonna stop that

even discounting the other problems holee brought

i.e mush and degradation

yucky

[knotty iron]

just gotta make sure its durable and very smooth and speedy

[kind helm]

mushiness is something I didn't notice until I try a good set of wire

[knotty iron]

is holee someone who made the holee mod

60HE+ and 80HE will get the same treatment

[fallen echo]

now we know why the 50g are sold out xD

[knotty iron]

yeah i think i just got very lucky

wait i think i was the reason they sold out

[kind helm]

it kinda just remind me of that since they both essentially "make the hole smaller". but with silicone hopefully its not mushy at all. and since its not a makeshift thing the fit is tighter as well. W design indeed

[fallen echo]

with that amount, I would say you were a contributing factor haha

[knotty iron]

NOOO IM SO SORRY

they shoukd restock soon

HOLY SHIT THESE GLIDE SO WELL

YES THIS IS PEAK HE

Finally i can stop using my shitty Jade Max switches 😭

i think if the jade max switches had a white pom stem i think it would have been fine

thats pretty much it

[stone flax]

raws better

[knotty iron]

but yes

raw better

[steel glacier]

Will be interesting to see tests with the Jade gaming switches...

[stone flax]

looks terrible but ok

[steel glacier]

Which is just the Jade Pros with box stem

[steel glacier]

Idk about switch looks since they'll be hidden behind the keycaps lmao

[stone flax]

people already complained it has that same plasticky sounding issue

lol

[steel glacier]

As the Jade pros?

[stone flax]

no as in its looking like it will be terrible

[steel glacier]

Oh damn

Cause I checked the page on the Gateron site and it seems to have the same housing as the Jade Pros

[stone flax]

eh

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1nZ1qYZEny

Sounds like koms

In that

They sound like shit

lol

[kind helm]

👀question: do you use all of the screw holes between plate and pcb or just a selected few?

[steel glacier]

Yikes is the raw HE the only good sounding switch?

[steel glacier]

I use all to make sure the tension everywhere is even.

[stone flax]

some people dont

people tend to not use the middle and spacebar standoffs for acoustics/feel preference

[kind helm]

when i was using tofu i did the ones in the 4 outer corners. now that i switch to the salvation i am only doing the two close to the center on each side

[chilly mural]

Thank you for your support to the Church of Geon!

[kind helm]

i am doing 0.2 actuation with 0.2 rapid trigger rn and everything seems fine so far

[knotty iron]

ME TOO

[steel glacier]

Oh wait 60 nvm

[polar girder]

I have an extra set I can ship you

Unopened clear standard

[raw oriole]

No way that would be so clutch

[polar girder]

I’m Michigan

[calm pulsar]

@tropic urchin
https://youtu.be/ESvC7mahbB8

[polar girder]

Could ship them out Monday if that’s ok with you

[raw oriole]

Literally whenever, no hurry

DM me

[tropic urchin]

Ye I ended up catching that 5 mins after it posted. Looks like I’m gonna be Batch 2.5 😢

RAWs are coming in soon, so I can’t wait for the switch civil war to happen on my switch opener

[stone flax]

rivions keyboard at 00:12

[calm pulsar]

ohh nice

[stone flax]

@silk hound ily honeybun

gz

^_^

[steel glacier]

Oooooo

Which keycaps were those?

I need a new set but finding something that's not boring is infuriating.

[silk hound]

＼(^o^)／

[stone flax]

agent01

[stone flax]

;3

[stone flax]

6️⃣7️⃣

[silk hound]

looks like he is flipping middle finger xD

[stone flax]

HE IS

[silk hound]

gmk agent 01

[ionic breach]

ya thats the point lmao

[steel glacier]

Thanks!

Might consider these or Deepwell...just goddamn these are more expensive than the black zinc case itself lol

[silk hound]

yeah they are but its up to you!

black with deepwell looks nice too

[stone flax]

designer studio

[thorn zealot]

Actual night and day difference between raws and black jades

Cleaner, fuller, yet still brighter sound

Raws top

Black jades bottom

[kind helm]

did you go with black jade spring or raws?

[thorn zealot]

i bought geons pingless springs

[jagged plank]

Should ask in this channel instead my bad. Was wondering if these will be okay with the 80he? Want to make sure theres no problems and are compatible

[thorn zealot]

ur fine

[jagged plank]

Thank you!

[thorn zealot]

why yes of course

[jagged plank]

Could I see how your keyboard is? Always interested to see haha

[urban harbor]

so the black zinc case isnt painted? just the white one?

[thorn zealot]

mine?

[jagged plank]

Yes 😄

[thorn zealot]

and this is what it sounds like

[jagged plank]

ooooo very nice

[thorn zealot]

thanks

my bank acc not happy tho

but it cool

[calm pulsar]

no idea tbh, but seems like the issue is with the white one only

[uneven cradle]

The black is anodized white is painted

[calm pulsar]

I see
I would probably prefer anodization over paint on metal

[uneven cradle]

Yeah but you can't anodize white 👀

[untold wigeon]

Boys have shown up.

[calm pulsar]

yeah I understand, I meant I would probably want the black one then 😄

I guess a silver option would've been possible, but at that point there's the raw one

[tropic urchin]

Does anyone have a good 3rd party plastic container to house 90 switches

[stone flax]

guh

dropshipped rev dyesub amazon set

💀

[uneven cradle]

Actually I'm not sure the black is anodized 👀

Anodizing zinc seems like a pain and expensive

[ionic breach]

electroplated no?

[knotty iron]

Do WS v3.1 1.6mm works with Raw HE 50g switches' 3.4mm travel long pole design?

for the 60HE+ and 80HE?

[calm pulsar]

are the stabs long pole?

[knotty iron]

It worked with the Q1 HE and the Nebula HE switches

[knotty iron]

i have no idea

i can send a picture

[calm pulsar]

well long pole or not, everything works, but long poles work a bit better in my experience

if they are normal poles you could just get geon stem spacers

[knotty iron]

i have stem spacers from geonworks

maybe those can help in case they dont work well

[calm pulsar]

you can try installing a keycap to these stabs and see if the keycap tilts when pressing with force on left or right edge

if yes, these are normal pole stabs and you can add stem spacers

[jagged plank]

eh I dont really care haha

[knotty iron]

i have stem spacers

[calm pulsar]

but if the specs don't mention long pole anywhere these are probably normal

[knotty iron]

i can add them worst case

[calm pulsar]

yup

[stone flax]

just letting u know its bad

😔🙏

😵‍💫👍

[stark spade]

Are Etsy keycaps any worse than other places to get keycaps?

[stone flax]

most times dropshipped

[stark spade]

Not gonna lie dont know what that means

😅

Ahh googled

[stone flax]

that shit ur finding for 50 dollars on etsy costs 10 bucks on aliexpress

basically

[stark spade]

Ahhhhh

gotcha

Whats the diff between the GMK kepcaps and the Aliexpress knockoffs?

[stone flax]

…..

https://tenor.com/view/venom-tom-hardy-marvel-rage-antihero-gif-11732259

[stark spade]

New to keyboard modding if thats not apparent

[calm pulsar]

plastic quality, legend quality, gmk are double shot (legends are actual different plastic), knockoffs are dyesub which means they are painted

[stark spade]

Ahh I see

[stone flax]

Clones will have: bad color matching, bad kerning, bad printing, worse molds, lower durability (prone to scratch/etc), poor alignment, wack qc, meh thickness

and 15 other things that make them what they are

theres a reason clones are clones

[calm pulsar]

also never buy from gmkkeycaps and gmkkeycap dot com, cause they are fakes

[stark spade]

Any specific companies that you guys would recommend for me to look at if I want to buy something? My 80he is coming in next month and was thinking of getting some color on it

Oh thats good to know

[calm pulsar]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[stark spade]

I thank you kindly

[jagged plank]

Yeah but it won’t affect how I play games at the casual level. So again idc

[opal umbra]

Any recommendations for a tkl that isn’t the wooting (budget is 250 and preferably a diy kit)

[stone flax]

he or not

[calm pulsar]

venom tkl?

[opal umbra]

Not the wootinghe

[calm pulsar]

he asked if you want a hall effect board or not

[opal umbra]

Oh

My bad I’m slow not HE

[whole obsidian]

hmm i recommand the wooting

[stone flax]

neo80, cycle8

[kindred blade]

what are some solutions to making non stand off soldered mounts compatible with the 60he pcb

[opal umbra]

Thanks

[stone flax]

soldered?

[fluid ravine]

Thoughts on the neo75 so far mj?

cus damn this is pretty

[kindred blade]

the standoffs are part of the original mount which holds the switches

[fluid ravine]

[ionic breach]

is that the one with the happy face?

or am i misremembering

[fluid ravine]

yeth :D

[ionic breach]

[stone flax]

not a neo75, its a neo75cu which ig is fineish but turning back on their entire design philosophy and literally reaching double the cost of the og neo65 means they gotta start being compared to better options

[fluid ravine]