🔧│keyboard_modding

[finite carbon]

if cut reasobaly small it will just be inside the leg holes and not going on top of pcb

since the legs will have no movment in the hole the whole thing will be tighter

i just need to find a better material than paper since paper when pressed hard becomes thiner and the wobble comes back

also the clips on the bottom housing of the v2 are very fragile(softer plastic?) if the switches get removed more than 2 times the teeth get damaged

not a problem with the v1.5

[lone plume]

Since there leeway between pcb on the switch. Get a softer switch pad on it then

[finite carbon]

yeah that would be a solution, i will look into it

the lift it will give will be irrilevant for the magnet travel

[lone plume]

But not sure whether it will hurt the HE distance

[finite carbon]

does the HE have different distance thing compared to 60he+?

i assume you mean HE the 80% model?

or hall effect?

i belive it will not hurt it as the keyboard calibrates on each boot, the thing is to have the switches not move up and down in relation to pcb as the magnet will move with it

so having them sitting higher but tight i belive it is better than moving thw whole switch

[lone plume]

If you using raw I will tell you it won't hurt the HE since the semi close bottom compress the switch pad

[finite carbon]

what is raw?

[lone plume]

Lekkar switch might need to adjust accordingly with the program

Geon raw switch

[finite carbon]

yeah i have heard they have very tight tolerances

[lone plume]

I mean the bottom housing

[finite carbon]

Final result

[lone plume]

No tape mod right?

[finite carbon]

no tape mod

i saw wooting videos saying it does nothing?

[lone plume]

Erm

[finite carbon]

dont do this to me

do i need tape mod?

[lone plume]

Sound poppy only

And what type of foam

For the case

[finite carbon]

the stock of the 60he+

[lone plume]

Yeah it sounds good

[finite carbon]

would you reccomend the tape mod?

[lone plume]

Adventurous enough ?

[finite carbon]

i mean it is a simple mod

this is easy compared to my anne pro 2

[calm pulsar]

I personally don’t like it, but you can do it and see for yourself

[finite carbon]

i had to solder each time

i want the thockiest possible

[lone plume]

Yeah down to preference

[finite carbon]

does tape mod increase thock theoretically?

also i have seen this spacebar foams

[calm pulsar]

what is thock though?

[robust siren]

i got tape mod and spacebar foam on mine

[finite carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[robust siren]

(also using tofu foam instead of 60he foam)

[finite carbon]

give us a sound demo?

[lone plume]

That poppy

[robust siren]

oh yeah it also has fr4

[calm pulsar]

and switches are probably jades or raws?

[robust siren]

let me get my steel plate ^ raws

[finite carbon]

nice nice, let's check paul allen's keyboard

https://tenor.com/view/christian-bale-patrick-bateman-american-psycho-gif-24351758

i like the first version more

[calm pulsar]

I got raws with fr4 as well

[finite carbon]

clean, what is fr4?

[lone plume]

Is that siberian cat?

[robust siren]

its a plate material

[calm pulsar]

plate material

[finite carbon]

i should leave this chat, the wallet is crying

[calm pulsar]

yes

im from siberia as well 😄

[lone plume]

Ah nice

[robust siren]

mine definitely did

[finite carbon]

do i hear spacebar tick here?

[robust siren]

yeah it was stock stabs and i didnt tune them

[finite carbon]

i see

[worthy epoch]

Alu case + steel plate + geon raw?

[finite carbon]

i hate the stab ticks, my anne pro 2 was plagued

[robust siren]

wooting 60he + wrist rest was like 230 and the mods brought it up to ~500

[calm pulsar]

I use a tiny bit of foam over my pcb foam sheet that is placed under each stab wire, reducing some ticking noises

[worthy epoch]

Черкани в лс

[finite carbon]

i have seen that mod, wouldnt that make the stabs mushy?

plus with the sw knights 2 i have 0 stab problems, literally

[robust siren]

[calm pulsar]

I experimented a bit and settled for a tiny sticker that came with my stabs

but thicker foam piece def made the stab mushier

[finite carbon]

mine is close to 400 , 60he+ , coiled wooting, lekeerv2, swknightsv2, artisan esc key, woot wrist rest and keycaps

cant belive the keeb costs as much as the cpu im about to buy

[robust siren]

• Geon Raw HE (factory lubed) 40 gram @bottom out
• SW Knights
• Tofu60 Redux case swap + brass weight + case foam
• O-ring tray mounted (Burger mod)
• Tape mod
• Spacebar foam
• FR4 + stock plate foam
• Cablemod Pro straight cable
• PBTFan Crosshair keycaps

[finite carbon]

notice any diff with the O rings?

[robust siren]

not really unless you push hard

oh speaking of which

[finite carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-christian-bale-business-gif-13484994

[robust siren]

i need to finish reassembling my keyboard

cause right shift got stuck

[finite carbon]

need to call senpai

[kind helm]

CableMod is W

[finite carbon]

good for tachyon?

[robust siren]

yes

[kind helm]

think that is more due to it being straight

[finite carbon]

yeah the only thing im considering now is the spacebar foam

the wooting coiled cable is very high quality

i did not expect that

[robust siren]

the gods are with me

i lined up every screw perfectly

the first try

(i tried over 7 times last night)

@finite carbon this is what i did to my spacebar btw

its the extra piece of foam you rip off when you swap the stock 60he foam into the tofu

[finite carbon]

wait a second, i have the foam from the coiled cable box

i can use that

there is also this on ali

Thick dense foam should do it

[robust siren]

i mean

sure?

[finite carbon]

i need a razor -.-

[calm pulsar]

I might try some foam like this, cause this 7u spacebar is almost too hollow sounding

[finite carbon]

https://wooting.io/product/60he-pc-switch-plate?Layout=ANSI+Kit&Color=White

does this provide more THOCKK?

[calm pulsar]

if you have a steel plate then yeah this is deeper sounding

[finite carbon]

i do have the steel, time to buy

[tropic urchin]

That’s how you know you got something cool 🙏🏻

[finite carbon]

only regret is that i did not order it with the rest of the accessories lol

[calm pulsar]

this plate is also available in black fyi, cause some ppl learned about it after purchasing this 😄

[fallen echo]

made the same mistake, lol.

[finite carbon]

ah yeah i saw, but i think white is better for the rgb

[calm pulsar]

fair, just wanted to mention 😄

[finite carbon]

thanks!

also, do you have a good way to remove the switches, seems like mine get damaged each time i remove them

i do have the tool and try to be as gentle as possible

[calm pulsar]

wooting's plastic switch puller was better for me at keeping the switch intact but it broke after a short while so I just use a metal puller

sometimes I break the pins but it gets the job done, and it doesnt seem to affect the switch

[finite carbon]

hm so it is common to break them ,def better to remove when the pcb is removed right?

[calm pulsar]

I try to start from the front side and pry it up and then help to take out from the other side

[calm pulsar]

yes, it is easier and safer that way

[finite carbon]

yeah, i was thinking of when i swap the plates don't want to end up with 60 broken switches on the new plate, plus this are new -.-

the little teeth on the bottom housing get damaged

[calm pulsar]

yeah you can just disassemble the whole thing, especially if you change the plate

[robust siren]

thats normal

[calm pulsar]

also there will be some wear in to

in time*

[finite carbon]

i see, so not worth it to buy the switches again

[robust siren]

ive watched those tiny shits break off when i was swapping switches and plates

[finite carbon]

yeah

[calm pulsar]

well if you want a change in the sound then it is worth, I love my geon raw he

[finite carbon]

just bought the v2 tho, the geons do transimt the light?

[robust siren]

the little labs on my geon raws got obliterated when taking them out of the steel plate

[calm pulsar]

yeah there is a diffuser as well

[robust siren]

blue color range example

on black plate of course

[untold wigeon]

Yes

[finite carbon]

i see, have this itch to buy another 70 pack and be done with it forever

so i know they are all not broken, but i think it is overkill

[robust siren]

i love my raws coming from v1.5s on the 60he+

[calm pulsar]

nahh its fine, these teeth don't affect anything in my experience

[finite carbon]

where can i buy the raws?

[calm pulsar]

rather get some new switch that is completely different from lekkers

[robust siren]

depends on where you live

[finite carbon]

europe

[robust siren]

delta keys (?) and aliexpress

[calm pulsar]

not sure about local vendors, but you can find them on kbdfans and aliexpress

[cedar gate]

Does the geon website not ship to the EU

[finite carbon]

no idea

ill check

[calm pulsar]

also direct from geon but aliexpress might be cheaper shipping

[robust siren]

they do but shipping prices

[raw oriole]

Does anyone have any experience with Jade Max switches? Thinking about getting them for a wooting build

[robust siren]

Expensive for slightly improved jades unless you want a 100% transparent switch for rgb

[finite carbon]

45 euro for 70 pack from ali

[knotty iron]

Raw HE white steel plate? what brightness?

[finite carbon]

geons are unlubed right?

[robust siren]

this is 100% brightness with room lighting on

[robust siren]

they are prelubed

[finite carbon]

oh cool then

[calm pulsar]

they are lubed well, I'm still using them stock

also you might get geon pingless springs with them so you don't have to lube them

[robust siren]

same

[robust siren]

i cant be assed to pull every switch apart so i skipped this

[calm pulsar]

fair, raws are very nice stock

[knotty iron]

nice, also saw hopperbus with the settings I use on my 80HE and 60HE+ so I pulled the trigger on 180 Raw HE switches

[robust siren]

and for my 72 switches, none of the ones i have on my keyboard has any ping

[knotty iron]

for both my kbs

[finite carbon]

how do i do this?

[knotty iron]

the 3.4mm travel should be really nice for gaming

[calm pulsar]

they are sold directly from geon, not sure about other vendors tbh

[robust siren]

youd have to get a switch opener and just swap out the springs

[calm pulsar]

but i say just get them from wherever is cheaper

the switches I mean

[finite carbon]

aha yeah, i do have a switch opener

are this special springs?

[robust siren]

theyre made by our lord and savior Geon

[calm pulsar]

they are supposed to be noiseless even without lube, but it's not that required unless you can hear ping in your switches

mine sound quite clean but I replaced the springs right from the start

thing is, stock raw he spring is already good

and the lubing process is good too

but if you were to order directly from geon why not add the pingless spring pack

[robust siren]

my 123 keys sounds intersting without a mousepad under my keyboard (im washing the mousepad)

[finite carbon]

got it, ill consider it, if i decide to buy the switches again i will go with the geons

[robust siren]

asd sounds exactly the same though

[stone flax]

as in from each other

or relative to other rows

[robust siren]

relative to other rows

[stone flax]

thats all keyboards

[robust siren]

and well actually different from the other numbers too

[stone flax]

Thats not all keyboards

probably just more use

Led to lube dispersal and break in

no biggy

[robust siren]

less than 2 weeks old haha, but it sounds a lot more consistant with a mat under it

wait no, its been 3 weks

[stone flax]

eh is to be expected

Impossible to expect an even sound

esp when traymount

[robust siren]

discord compression :D

sounds so different then just the video in my photos

[random hull]

is it hard to find the switches that may have a ping

[stone flax]

?

[raw oriole]

My bad i closed discord for a bit. Do you know if they're worth hand lubing or is the factory lube good enough?

[stone flax]

switch ping is a fault in manufacturing

people dont really market that as a feature

😭

[robust siren]

it varies but almost every switch is worth lubing if you care a lot

hand lubing will always be better than factory (if you do it correctly of course)

[stone flax]

it depends

if a factory does an identical process better than or atleast consistent to someones bad lube job

[random hull]

mmh i see, yeah like some say that none of their switches have a ping, just curious if it will stand out if you have a faulty one

[raw oriole]

I'm torn because I don't really want to hand lube anything but at the same time if I'm spending all this money I may as well go all the way and make it perfect lol

[stone flax]

if u notice it youll notice it

[stone flax]

If this is ur first time literally just try it stock then lube it

[robust siren]

i mean you can try lubing one and try one from factory and see how you like it

[stone flax]

im saying it depends on factory jobs

[raw oriole]

True

[stone flax]

like hand lubing its also different lol

also some stock lube i quite like

like mx2a if i wanted to lean into the cherry scratch id solely springswap and film if need be

its all preference

just bc someone opened a switch and brushed lube over the housings doesnt make it a better job than a machine preapplying it

all preference

[worthy epoch]

yo bois

custom pom plate from smkeyboards or wooting pc plate?

[stone flax]

only instance this is true is depending on the quality of the factory job itself

[stone flax]

depends if u like pom or pc

also if u want to use both pcb and plate mounts

aftermarket plates really delve into either or from what ive seen

[worthy epoch]

the point is idk

but i dont want clacky sound

[worthy epoch]

only pcb screw ins

[stone flax]

sound is a sum of all its parts but anything from fr4 to pp could do the job granted the rest of ur board runs deep

[worthy epoch]

my build if it helps

[robust siren]

uh.... geon raws are pretty clacky

[raw oriole]

I'm thinking about getting the PBTFans/KBDFans Black on White keycap set but I've heard the legends on the modifier keys have a lot of inconsistencies with the letter spacing/height. Would you guys recommend i go with the icon modifier set because of that? I'm not sure how noticeable the inconsistency would be in person

[worthy epoch]

but have least stem wobble amongst all switches tho

[stone flax]

if ur getting a bow set why limit urself to only those 2

[worthy epoch]

and they are not THAT clacky tho

[stone flax]

any particular reason

?

[worthy epoch]

and i js wanna my board to sound nice, no particular sound type. js anything nice but clacky

[raw oriole]

I get a free red space bar set which is nice but since I gotta order the tofu60 redux from them and pay $30 in shipping either way it made sense to try and get keycaps from them too. I'm also not finding a ton of cherry profile doubleshot pbt keycaps but it's possible I'm not looking in the right places

[stone flax]

https://divinikey.com/products/keykobo-wob-keycap-set?

[robust siren]

i mean you can get the simple base kit, no letterings on modifiers

[raw oriole]

Yea that's what I was wondering if that's the move since those shouldn't have the same inconsistencies

[calm pulsar]

raw he are just that imo

[raw oriole]

These are abs, id rather get pbt

[stone flax]

whats ur particular issue w it

[knotty iron]

i dont mind the sound signature at this point as long as there isnt chatter or rattle

clack or deeper idc

[raw oriole]

Shine/feel. I can't say I've tried high quality ABS before but i prefer pbt to abs from what I've tried

[robust siren]

ignore the red and its basically wob

[stone flax]

hmm

Shenpo bow

[knotty iron]

i just want a switch that feels similar to the jade max without adding a ton of stepping friction

[raw oriole]

Ngl that looks a lot better than the keycap set picture online lol, i think I'll go with the icons

[knotty iron]

so Raw HE 50g was a solid option i would say

[stone flax]

Im confused

Do you want bow or wob

[raw oriole]

Bow

[stone flax]

He just sent you wob

[robust siren]

so not this lol

[knotty iron]

dont cry switchy

[stone flax]

And i did too

[raw oriole]

Yes but I was looking at the icons vs text not really the color

Since i already know I want bow

[stone flax]

shenpo

they got okie dyesub

[raw oriole]

What's the QR code for?

[stone flax]

no clue

[robust siren]

the only reason why i dont have text on my modifiers is because realistcally i can only use the one for caps on a 60he and i had to buy that seperately

[stone flax]

shenpo

:p

is nice

if u got problem with legend quality

on the pbtfans ones

[robust siren]

pbtfans is quite expensive and you dont really get as many keycaps like @stone flax has shown

[stone flax]

i mean

If u want pbt

i always opt for dyesubs

just nicer and cleaner

Its preference tho

[robust siren]

[calm pulsar]

loving the vintage color scheme

[stone flax]

i need me a shenpo set one day

actually

i need 15 keycap sets one day

[calm pulsar]

real

before that tho, wooting 60he pro tsangan layout

[stone flax]

:0

[stone flax]

also arc

u noticed any sound diff with solely changing pcb’s

from wooting to venom

where everything else would be the same

[cedar gate]

The best is worth paying for tho

Much cheaper than gmk anyways

[stone flax]

[calm pulsar]

I only noticed that geon’s plate seems a bit higher quality compared to cafege he alu plate

but pcb wise the only thing is probably that the cable hits the case less now

maybe cause usb port is a bit more flexible

but its more of a cable issue

[stone flax]

interesting

[calm pulsar]

mine has a chonky connector

other than that this is my best build probs

[knotty iron]

anyone know if the Raw HEs work on a Sayodevice O3C

[calm pulsar]

another thing is gateron switches were very very slightly wobbly in the plate slots

geons were snug af

[stone flax]

👀

geon gatekeeping

only geon switches for geon plate

[calm pulsar]

true lol

[stone flax]

tbh tho

it might have just been designed with his he in place

and raws happen to be incredibly tight for plate tolerances

[calm pulsar]

yeah that’s what I thought right away

[stone flax]

so when raws would be really tight in more regular plate tolerances

his plates would have raws snug

therein causing gaterons to be looseish

[calm pulsar]

also not sure if you’ve seen but I initially tried knight v2s, got unlucky with spacebar wire and just went for TX AP long pole, lol

7u wire is just a bit harder to work with😁

[tropic urchin]

praying my knights dont give me silvery bad wires now 🙏

[stone flax]

yowch

my 7u's were noice

[calm pulsar]

here’s my board with silver wires
as you can see very ugly

[tropic urchin]

in fairness if I had the RAWs id still be mildly inconvenienced but thats a me problem 🥲

idk white/translucent + gold is 🔥

[calm pulsar]

they do look great for sure

[finite carbon]

@calm pulsar can you link me those geon springs?

[calm pulsar]

https://geon.works/products/he-springs-15mm?srsltid=AfmBOophUx5fNbAzcDqMcE4IhadvC8vY4GagMfL7i3hSzc6WgFUO1Ft5

[finite carbon]

thanks

[tropic urchin]

@calm pulsar I think RAWs will be next on my list to try when I get tired of the Maxes 👀

[chilly mural]

yess

join the raw

[calm pulsar]

raw gang

[tropic urchin]

Im a Geon Max Connoisseur

Im also noticing Arc that if you brute force each key cap to the maxes they get easier to take off with time

first time is kinda cancer to take off, but after that it seems to get easier

either that or im warping something lmao

[calm pulsar]

yeah tbh to me its not an issue, the PC stem is just a bit grippier and that’s it

also wooting puller is very good for keycaps

[tropic urchin]

catches you off guard first time tho

[tropic urchin]

awesome

I got my painters tape comin too so we got all the mods

[calm pulsar]

wait

80he has smth for tape mod already I think

[tropic urchin]

Yeah they got the pet film right

I was planning on doing a 3 layer tape mod

I liked the 3 layer on the zinc that Sander demonstrated for his video

[calm pulsar]

I see

when I tried tape modding on my 60he I didnt like it, but that was in tofu redux case and lekker v1s

[tropic urchin]

Theres something to the deeper zinc that sounds very nice

[tropic urchin]

interesante

[quiet jewel]

Which keycap should I use for esc key

[tropic urchin]

I like the arrow

the other one is like a mode key more

[quiet jewel]

I might switch to using the arrow

yteah it looks better

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-eww-yikes-disgusted-gif-7528652

[fallen pewter]

Hi there might have a question: if I wanted to go back to blue switches (not magnetic hall effect ones) on my 80HE, could I do it without breaking anything? I mean do I might damage the module or am I completely safe to do so? Thanks

[calm pulsar]

not compatible

[calm pulsar]

you could theoretically buy some gateron mechanical switches that have click bars and install them on your HE switches

not sure what model switch to get tho

[fallen pewter]

Alright I see, nvm I guess that's all good, I'll try to get used to the lekker I guess ahahah

I'm kind of a clicky boy I feel like, makes me have trouble with those switches for some reason

[calm pulsar]

yeah its too much of a hassle and kinda defeats the purpose of HE

[calm pulsar]

you could get closed bottom switches, they have pronounced bottom out compared to lekkers

[fallen pewter]

What kind would you recommend?

[calm pulsar]

geon raw he or gateron jade pro/max

raws are considered to have the least chatter

as in good tolerances

[fallen pewter]

I was using blue switches on a Logitech PRO before, and some reds on a rapidfire k70 corsair

idk if it can help somehow

[fallen pewter]

Alright thanks bro, I'll have a look on yt to see how they sound like. Actually, already saw the gateron jade pro and max, but dunno if it would still help

[calm pulsar]

glad to help
I can guarantee that closed bottom switches are a whole different feeling, so you might like it over lekkers

[tropic urchin]

https://youtu.be/kx6vTEtwZ50?si=mq1EU_I6gT4wa2wG

This is a good one that shows alot of other switches too but includes the Pro/Max/Raw

[calm pulsar]

also here’s my geon raw he build

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[fallen pewter]

Thanks to both of you for the help, that's kinda a big deal for me even though it might seem stupid lmfao

[fallen pewter]

sick build btw

I might give the geon raw HE a try, those seem to be a little bit more with a "clicky" touch if I can say, we'll see how it goes

[tropic urchin]

If you lube them, the clicky clack does down a bit and it sounds smoother

im a bigger fan of them lubed than stock, but maybe that changes

[calm pulsar]

nah to me the bottom out sensation is different

on lekkers I havent felt anything

[fallen pewter]

I did lube my switches before, then I realized that somehow something was feeling off everytime I was playing with my old 60HE, was always going back to my old logitech pro (I know it's a shame lmao), so yeah

[calm pulsar]

yeah not clicky for sure

actually more like clacky

but still a linear switch

[tropic urchin]

Did you overlube them?

[fallen pewter]

Yeah gotcha, was just trying to put a word on that "sound" we can hear and mb the feeling ahah

[fallen pewter]

Not at all, they were the lekker v1, they were sounding super super nice, just ing something was off lmfao, I can't really tell the reason but it seems it might be the "feeling" of the clackiness of the switch, I'm kind of a big tryharder as well (reached radiant on val and top EU on cs) so every little details can make me really quickly inconfortable if I don't get 100% what I want ahaha

And I've been trying to get used to it for several weeks, didn't help, raising actuation point either somehow

[tropic urchin]

interesting

[fallen pewter]

I'm also older (32), might be one of the reason also, always have been used to those kind of keyboards, I might be too old to get used to new stuffs kinda idk AHAH

[calm pulsar]

nah an HE board is very good in any case I would say

just outright faster transfer of your decisions into action in the game

[fallen pewter]

Yep that's 100% facts, I've tried to put actuation point to the lowest and my god it's WAYY too fast 🤣

[calm pulsar]

it also helps me in tarkov cause this game has inertia, so it feels a bit snappier when I move around in-game

[tropic urchin]

I heard a gold wire gives you +10% rep increase @calm pulsar

[fallen pewter]

I mean yeah, personnaly in games like val/cs the issue I got with such a low actuation point is that you counter-strafe way too fast that my brain cannot even handle it, micro movements is somehow really hard to do as left/right is going super quick, having to check a micro angle for example I might going too much on the left or too much on the right and having to adjust to get the right angle if that makes sense

[calm pulsar]

well good thing actuation is adjustable

[fallen pewter]

True ahahaha

[chilly mural]

can't wait to experience the adjustable actuation

[calm pulsar]

can confirm

well when I had plate mounts with gold wires

[tropic urchin]

80HE is gonna be fire

[chilly mural]

3 weeks

[tropic urchin]

longest 3 weeks of all time inc

[quiet jewel]

it says my wooting 6ohe+ has an update to to 2.10.0-alpha.11, do I do it or nah

[vague stag]

so, any tips on what else I can do with my wooting? feeling kind off restless with this new hobbie of mine 😄

[cedar gate]

tape mod gasket mount?

[vague stag]

swappd the switch plate, new case, new switches and key caps, lubed everything, tested almost all mods (foam, no foam, tapemod etc.)

[cedar gate]

simple mods

[cedar gate]

have you messed with the mounting?

[vague stag]

havent tried gasket mouinting with an o-ring

[cedar gate]

its a good idea

[vague stag]

guessing that is what you mean since the PCB is not gasket mount compatible

[cedar gate]

right looks way cooler

[vague stag]

hmm okay, does that mean I need to remove the standoffs in the Tofu60?

[cedar gate]

no you need longer screws tho

you can get all the stuff on amazon for 10ish

[vague stag]

oh, are u talking about burger mount or o-ring?

[cedar gate]

oh i confused myself lol

[vague stag]

might be me that is confusing the terminoligyu

[cedar gate]

nvm yeah remove all standoffs and all screws

[vague stag]

But htat would mean I would need to file them down

or am I wrong?

[cedar gate]

?

no? just remove the detachable brass standoffs and screws

[vague stag]

the Tofu60 standoffs (beside the one by the space bar) are molded into the case

[cedar gate]

no need to file off the built in ones

[cedar gate]

btw what stabs are you using

[vague stag]

the stock stabs, I am looking to buy long pole stabs but cannot find any at 1.6 that are in stock

(have the geon raws)

[cedar gate]

i would try tx ap snap ins and you can lube those if your looking for a nice mod

but dont do bandaid mod or anything youll just mess it up

[vague stag]

Someone told me that some are experiencing issue with those

[cedar gate]

in my expierence theyre fine

[cedar gate]

oh wait they restocked black knights

[calm pulsar]

depends on the plate, if the stab cutouts allow tx ap then all good

[cedar gate]

you should get those then

[vague stag]

where have they restocked?

[cedar gate]

swagkeys

[calm pulsar]

for a sec thought you were talking abt black knight switches

[cedar gate]

🤣 yeah ik the stabilizers are called knights but im too used to calling them black knights

[vague stag]

damn, the shipping to Sweden is more than the stabs iteslf...

[cedar gate]

it is worth the price imo

this is an expensive hobby

[vague stag]

heheh I know

I am looking at buying a Mode Envoy and mod that one

[thorn zealot]

I finally did it

so i dont need to lube these pingless sprigns right

[glacial wind]

glory to geon and all that he touches

[calm pulsar]

nope

[glacial wind]

supposedly no, but personally i'd still throw a bag lube on them because i'm paranoid

[fluid ravine]

Real

[calm pulsar]

honestly I did bag lube them cause I didnt know they were pingless

I translated korean listing with chrome and it didnt mention it

gym session over, time to touch keyboard

[chilly mural]

Thank you for your support to the Church of Geon!

[thorn zealot]

yes

new member

[calm pulsar]

glory to geon and all that he touches

[tropic urchin]

Make sure to swap to 100g springs for optimal finger gains

@calm pulsar I got some new brushes and those pesky switches have now been thoroughly unsticked

now lets hope the stabs fair better

[finite carbon]

how much was shipping for you?

[calm pulsar]

unsticked as in they don't have the issue or did you remove excessive lube?

[tropic urchin]

remove excess lube

I thought I did the last 2 times but it always comes back for some switches

so I had to break out the new brush that came with my krytox for my stabs

if it survives that then it deserves to be a permanent feature

[calm pulsar]

I mean most lube mistakes get fixed in time, lube just moves around

[thorn zealot]

12

because i picked priority over normal

[finite carbon]

nice, was 50 for me

[thorn zealot]

are u from us

or somewhere else

[finite carbon]

eu

[thorn zealot]

ah

did u order from geon or divinikey

[finite carbon]

i have not ordered

both have very expensive shipping

might order from aliexpress but i want the springs also

[chilly mural]

damn

[glacial wind]

I’d just do aliexpress and lube the springs

Pingless springs for $50 extra is not worth

[finite carbon]

yup\

[calm pulsar]

damn actually I just noticed this difference

[glacial wind]

I’m still waiting to see if the upcoming ttc magneto Pom switch will have binding issues

[tropic urchin]

scotch blue arrived lfg

[glacial wind]

Although the swagkeys switch being so dam cheap is pretty crazy

[calm pulsar]

probably more like not being gateron-priced 😄

[glacial wind]

ttc going to be angry if the swagkeys switch sounds good and is 1/4 the price

.30-35cents per switch with the magnet might be the lowest priced good he switch

And it’s still pom bottom so curious to see how it sounds

There’s still not a single review in Korea with sound test

[tropic urchin]

I dont think ive heard a switch thats made me recoil more than the TTCs/GMMK switches

[untold wigeon]

What’s the bottom of the Raptor made of?

[chilly mural]

too much tactile or bad?

[tropic urchin]

Sharp, plasticy sound

[glacial wind]

Wasn’t raptors nylon

[tropic urchin]

very sharp

[chilly mural]

waow

[untold wigeon]

I think you’re right

I want a Pom bottom for my Raws

[glacial wind]

Swagkeys one is most interesting combo so far with pom bottom and pok stem

[untold wigeon]

Yah that’s what I’m after

[calm pulsar]

and that shape of the stem is super curious

[glacial wind]

If it’s good I’m unsure if I’ll swap out geon raw for it fully though. Box stems still have the issue of feeling rough when pushed off axis

pretty much trade away smoothness for a tad bit more stability at bottom

[untold wigeon]

I hate box stem

[glacial wind]

Yeah it’s just never smooth

[untold wigeon]

Is there a Pom bottom housing compatible with the raw?

[glacial wind]

Nope

[untold wigeon]

Didn’t think so

[glacial wind]

there’s ttc pom magneto and swagkeys peony which are the 2 pom bottom switches

[untold wigeon]

Meh

[glacial wind]

And it’s all different manufacturers

[tiny summit]

Has anyone tried keebtape on their wooting, if so, could you please release a sound test? 🙂 I've been debating 1 layer of keebtape and 1 layer of moleskin

[tropic urchin]

I think the most common tape mod is currently painters tape (Sander did a 3 layer), not sure if I’ve seen a keebtape mod yet specifically

[tiny summit]

Sounds good, thanks Varedis! 🙂

[tropic urchin]

https://youtu.be/2gnstQCvHSA?feature=shared there’s a little sound test before the tutorial

[tiny summit]

This is perfect! Thanks again! 🙂

[tropic urchin]

Depending on what you’re getting might sound a little different, but so far the 3 layer tape mod is my favorite 🔥

[random hull]

i liked that polyfill one in keybored video too, but obv i havent tried any of this myself and just going by videos

i wanna do the tape mod when i get everything in

[cedar gate]

my keycaps are starting to shine lol idk if im ready to embrace it

[calm pulsar]

shine is life

[cedar gate]

im panicking bro

[calm pulsar]

what are your keycaps

[cedar gate]

pbtfans crosshair lol theyre a few months old

i thought pbtcaps take a few years

[calm pulsar]

oh the black ones look good when shining

[cedar gate]

i do type a lot tho

[calm pulsar]

tbh I like the shine cause it shows a well used board

there's no real escaping the shine

[fluid ravine]

K33bs told me that their KeebTape is not like the generic tape mod
IIRC he said it makes the board sound more "cleaner" in a way

I'm not really sure how it fully works but ye ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[calm pulsar]

does it work the same way on HE tho

[fluid ravine]

I mean on their page they listed it for "Wooting" as well

Not just MX boards

So I suppose ye?

[calm pulsar]

I feel like it just says wooting compatible cause it's tape 😄

[fluid ravine]

Lul

[fluid ravine]

Diff material as well I tuink

Lemme check

[calm pulsar]

yeah it seems some sort of specific material

curious for sound comparisons

[tropic urchin]

Oh interesting, I’ve never heard of it/seen any builds with it, but it’s probably a me thing

[fluid ravine]

And it's thicker than the normal painters and masking tape

Like 1mm thick

[tropic urchin]

I’m curious too 👀

[fluid ravine]

I think it does the same as tape mod but just better

Like the effect is more noticeable

That's what I think on how it works

[tropic urchin]

Do you have a link cuz I might pick some up tbh

[fluid ravine]

https://keebmat.com/products/keebtape?srsltid=AfmBOoqEhtgQx0F8oPObj9LDR3JSfYJrBuou5KkomnmiStVVYP2Ah1tD

[tropic urchin]

looks more convoluted to do, but now I am interested

[fluid ravine]

opens dictionary 1727

[covert mulch]

Has anyone considered putting in Wooting Lekkar Magnetic Keyswitches in a Performance Higround Keyboard?

[calm pulsar]

[stone flax]

do you have a highground keyboard by any chance

[stone flax]

makes sense

a fair bit of people describe tape mod as pushing things to the mids

[covert mulch]

I don’t. I have the chance to buy one by financing it and then I was looking at reviews and seeing that Wooting is overall better but the review was based on the keyswitches

So that’s where my question was coming from

[stone flax]

would be understandable that depending on the board people perceive opposite effects @calm pulsar

[calm pulsar]

don't finance a highground keyboard💀

[stone flax]

fuck that

Lol

higround board sucks

[covert mulch]

Best Buy CC ya heard! Plus I’d get a Logitech super light with it too

[stone flax]

? Still fucking sucks

Get a made68 if u want a brick and mortar he option

[covert mulch]

That sucks to hear based on how well they look

[stone flax]

No point buying a bad board just because you can?

[calm pulsar]

highround is overpriced bs

[stone flax]

? What do you “well looking”, is it the cheapest possible plastic cases or ugly reverse dyesub topographic sets that got you interested

[covert mulch]

So Wooting obviously the better option. But I want to make is aesthetically pleasing

[stone flax]

? And a 60he is incredibly configurable

buy a module

[covert mulch]

The collabs with all the company’s. I’ve never owned one but off screen it looks good

[stone flax]

If u mean doing anime collabs to push objectively bad $90 keycaps sets sure

fine by me

But then just buy the caps?

And slap it on a better board

Tf

[covert mulch]

Those things sell out so quick

[calm pulsar]

the keycaps sets with whole art pictures over them look weird from a usable angle, just get a deskpad lol

[stone flax]

I love looking my keyboard at a straight 90 degree angle downwards

!!!!!

[covert mulch]

So how would you mod the case? And what kind of case would you recommend

[stone flax]

60he conforms to gh60

[covert mulch]

Plus I saw a review that the switches sound incredibly loud

[stone flax]

The options for cases is extensive

i.e see the modding faq + notion-page+ most gh60 traymountable cases could work

as for case to recommend

literal preference

but most people have just opted for a tofu

https://tenor.com/view/opinion-vibe-gif-24179784

[fluid ravine]

type shit

[covert mulch]

Okay. I appreciate the help and honest review

[stone flax]

😭

[fluid ravine]

[tropic urchin]

Me with the right side of my keyboard being the blue novelties 🤣

[calm pulsar]

90 bucks please

for anime picture

[stone flax]

No but genuinely

dont buy a higround

[tropic urchin]

Why spend $90 when you can get anime waifus on wallpaper engine

[stone flax]

amount of times people have gotten a product theyve been curious in have it be shit on and come back still choosing to buy it and stating “it wasnt as bad as you all said!”

[calm pulsar]

lul

[tropic urchin]

cant get animated keycaps /s

[stone flax]

Is insane

Dont buy the higround @covert mulch

[fluid ravine]

high in ground

high in price

high in bs

they're just high

[stone flax]

gg he bought the higround

i can already tell

[calm pulsar]

hahah

cracked me up

well if they have such good marketing maybe they deserve to be bought

[polar girder]

Need the final mouse keyboard

Centerpiece

[tropic urchin]

Next drop: March 2036

[tropic urchin]

its missing the hifi sound, their marketing department needs to be fired immediately

[loud zephyr]

If they’re pulling people into the hobby then it’s not such a bad thing; not everyone is going to have a jacked up keyboard as their first custom

[stone flax]

i hate this take so disgustingly much

[calm pulsar]

I mean they are marketed as premium gaming peripherals but there are better and cheaper chinese boards lol

[stone flax]

pulling people into the hobby by having them pay for overpriced junk

is predatory

lmao

u cant say its not

theyre literally taking advantage of people who know less

[calm pulsar]

this sums it up

I mean it happens in everything in life probably lol

[loud zephyr]

How is it predatory? Do remind me of how much your Frog cost? Is that thing really that special, it’s a just keyboard, blud

[stone flax]

lmao

there it is

good to know ur take is that people should be spending $170 on the cheapest $10 aliexpress case, undeveloped gtech oem pcb, and splotchy rev dyesub keycap set that looks terrible in any actually usable angle other than straight down

this isnt elitism bud

its called not wanting newbies to get scammed

not all publicity is good publicity

[calm pulsar]

its not about end cost, its about what you're getting for the $200 you pay to highground

[loud zephyr]

Scammed lmao. People can spend their money how they want

[stone flax]

having people "introduced people into the hobby" through bad boards is how u get people who do this https://youtu.be/GYgIbG8JZFk

like wtf

😭

tf

[calm pulsar]

they absolutely can and will, but if you can let a random person know they can get better value then it's not bad

[stone flax]

nope, if someone gets an aula f75/higround performance base ad on social media

then atleast they got exposed to the hobby right!!!

😊

awesome take

[calm pulsar]

if anything, wooting allows you to get into the hobby better with customization

[stone flax]

also last i checked the higround keyboard still has unresolved issues from release like floating ap, bad deadzones, and 0 development whatsoever from the stock fw/sw

so yeah

[calm pulsar]

not sure if anything is customizable on highground

[stone flax]

more power to that

lol

[loud zephyr]

Like I said if it gets those customers to better and better things, then it’s fine. Jesus, Christ it’s not hard to understand

[stone flax]

and thats the thing, if people do end up delving deeper into the hobby, the only thing that early bad exposure becomes is a regret

genuinely

LOL

why want people to have future regrets

just recc something nice now?

and make them steer clear

from bad things

this cant be a hard concept

[loud zephyr]

And you think everyone makes the right choice the first time all the time? Shit, I regret ever buying a Rama but I’ve certainly from it

[stone flax]

nope, doesnt mean brands that are predatory shouldnt be shit on

which is what ur portraying

no

they all need to burn

lol

[loud zephyr]

Yikes. You’re such a try-hard elitist. I’ll leave it at that

[stone flax]

lmao

wanting the best for people who are new makes you an elitist

because calling shit like this a scam

makes someone an elitist

a fucking rk61 they stuck branding on

for 130 discounted to 85

yup

:> now thats what i call a good introduction to a hobby

with that logic, calling out dropshipping as anything other than morally bankrupt makes someone an elitist

live ur life ig

[calm pulsar]

im done listening to your bs @stone flax im taking a mortrage to buy a highground

[stone flax]

prospa says you should! its a good introduction to the hobby!

im loving what these companies do for the consumers

[covert mulch]

Hey question. Any recommendations on magnetic switches that Better sounding keyswitches
I bought these for my RK65 and they felt and sounded great

[stone flax]

you wont find a completely similar feel and sound to these unfortunately going from mechanicals to mx

[thorn zealot]

just get raws

simple

[stone flax]

although as for hall effect options go with a wooting u have a lot of options

for closed bottoms people like raws/jade variants

[covert mulch]

What are Raws?

[stone flax]

and for opens black knights/lekker v2's

[calm pulsar]

geon raw he

[thorn zealot]

https://divinikey.com/products/geon-raw-he-linear-switches?variant=41630619467841

[stone flax]

geon raw he

[cedar gate]

Raws are partially open

[stone flax]

functionally closed bottom

[covert mulch]

What is the difference between open and closed?

[stone flax]

inner diameter of bottom housing goes in and stem pole causes pole bottom out

reduced travel

its not rbo like actual open bottoms

[covert mulch]

For which one?

[cedar gate]

In a closed bottom the magnet hits to the bottom creating a distinct clack

[stone flax]

and neither does it face sound/lube leakage seen in some

[stone flax]

for jades and raws

[covert mulch]

Yes but open or closed, which one gets reduced travel?

[stone flax]

closed

bc they bottom out by pole most often

[covert mulch]

Gotcha

And those make the distinct clack sound

Which means open would be more of a click?

[stone flax]

it can be sharper yes

[cedar gate]

You can kind of see how one is open bottom and one is closed

[stone flax]

click is more a term used to describe switches with a literal mechanism for it in clickies such as a click bar or jacket

open bottoms will feel softer and sound more hollow

[covert mulch]

And is that why people add more foam or different styles so it reduces the noise

[stone flax]

which people can also equate to being quieter

[cedar gate]

Open bottom is usually thockier but any switch can thock

[stone flax]

foam only acts to modify sound and draw away from whatever the sound the case would make naturally, most times it makes a hollow board sound fuller and deeper, other times it can make it higher pitched/louder by not giving sound the ability to disperse into the case

its largely a thing you configure for the sound u want

[covert mulch]

Gotcha.

[stone flax]

but yeah people often do it to remove resonance that they wouldnt want

[covert mulch]

Okay I’m just trying to make sure I have all my eggs in order

I want the best gaming keyboard I can get b it I also hate clicking or loud sounding keyboards so I’d want to know all about what I can do before purchasing one

[calm pulsar]

if want it quieter a good way is to have your plate made out of softer plastic like POM or PC

wooting module comes with a PC plate

[stone flax]

oh yea

were u intending on getting the prebuilt or module

[covert mulch]

Well after talking to you it seems like I should get the module and build it myself

[calm pulsar]

prebuilt one comes with the same pcb, which you can customize just like the module, but the module comes with a nicer plate and stabilizers, and ofc it would be easier to drop in a custom case that you want

[tropic urchin]

LMFMAO

[covert mulch]

I’d just have to look into what kind of customer plate I would want

[calm pulsar]

it depends on your pacing in modding your board

[covert mulch]

Pacing?

[calm pulsar]

I personally got my og 60he prebuilt and modded from there, when I didnt know anything about modding HE boards

[calm pulsar]

like some people want to get a wooting first and mod it later

[covert mulch]

*got it

[cedar gate]

You usually learn to like the sounds but if you don't want it too loud black knight switches and jade maxes are great

[knotty iron]

anyone know if the O3C is compatible woth Raw HE switches

[devout torrent]

Yes

Should be

[knotty iron]

does anyone have them both?

i know the magnet on the Raw HE is a bit stronger than other KS-20 switches

but i was afraid that would overload the PCB

[cedar gate]

your fine lol

[polar girder]

Venom or 60HE? @calm pulsar

[viscid radish]

does anyone know if the Everglide
Sticky Rice (V2) is compatible with wooting 60he? saw something about incompatability of v1

[uneven cradle]

Both

[calm pulsar]

if you don't care for tsangan layout, wooting has better software still

[ionic breach]

Venom x 60HE v2 🙏

[calm pulsar]

this

[polar girder]

lol nah I can’t have more than one keyboard

[polar girder]

Fair. Makes sense

[ionic breach]

a board with wooting software plus the most optimised 8k?

[polar girder]

Need that 60HE pro 8k

[uneven cradle]

We have no such limits around here

[calm pulsar]

I will say tho the price of venom60he and what it offers is super nice, and I really dig the layout

100% geon board rn

[polar girder]

We -Bigsly

[uneven cradle]

Too many tempting keyboards 💸

[polar girder]

How much was the venom60 PCB?

Like $70?

[calm pulsar]

its 62.25, plus the plate is 20

oh it is out of stock now during the thoctober sale

on the korean store

[polar girder]

Yeah that’s fair I’m not actually gonna buy it

I like it tho

[knotty iron]

why doesnt anyone talk about the venom HE series from geon?

or rakka HE series

[calm pulsar]

I mean lately I talk about it, typing on one right now 😄

[knotty iron]

i tried to find videos but almost nothing came out

[calm pulsar]

the 60% is only sold in korea for now

TKL is available international tho

[polar girder]

I also feel like availability is pretty limited

Right

[knotty iron]

is the 60% a 60% arrow or 60% arrowless

[polar girder]

Yeah gotta be in the know to be snagging one this early

[ionic breach]

60

65 is arrow

[polar girder]

60 arrow? wtf is that lol

[calm pulsar]

there are such boards, but to me they look ugly lol

[polar girder]

Gross

I do want tsangan now

[knotty iron]

there are 60% arrows but those are 63 keys like the ez63 or ez61 for arrowless

[polar girder]

But not enough lol

[knotty iron]

like 60HE is a 61 key arrowless

[polar girder]

So clean

[ionic breach]

60 refers to %

of a full kb

not the amt of keys

[calm pulsar]

I like it soo much aesthetically, it makes a 60% board its own thing as opposed to being cut out of a 100% layout, but that's just my perception lol

also functionally nicer to have more keys

but still keep 60%

I also set up my arrow keys to be immediately accessible with mod tap just like on wooting, and in this layout it looks a bit more suited for the arrow area

if you hold down the keys you get their usual function ofc

[polar girder]

Yea that’s what’s up

Fk

So clean

Nice bro

[knotty iron]

exactly, the footprint of the ez60 and ez63 are the same

but the 63 has arrow keys

ez60 mb

[calm pulsar]

btw venom is based on rakka, Thockfather told me
but venomhas its own driver website that looks similar to rakka's

[knotty iron]

same footprint

[calm pulsar]

probably has custom firmware and stuff

[calm pulsar]

functionally it's nice, but somehow I have this thing in my head where I'd rather have a TKL if I need more keys

but if I want a smaller board I'd prefer standard 60% or tsangan, cause it looks more "complete" to me 😄

[knotty iron]

same

63key 60% is jarring to me

more power to those who benefit

[calm pulsar]

yeah

also not even sure I'd appreciate the alphas being a bit off in the ZXC row

[ionic breach]

feels... unholy

[devout torrent]

Cursed layout honestly

I hate it

I need right shift 😭😭😭

[stone flax]

venom was developed by rakka

but my goat geon dont fuck with em

no more

and as a child of divorce im living with geon

[calm pulsar]

I see, interesting

so venom is now updated solely by geon's team?

[stone flax]

that was for og tkl

[stone flax]

and someone else

but 60 and tkl v2

no moa

[calm pulsar]

ohh so current tkl that is being sold is v1 and the 60 is a newer thing?

[stone flax]

no

wait

yea

[calm pulsar]

lol

[stone flax]

venom60, 65, tkl v2

will be when divorce is shown

[calm pulsar]

well if that's the case good to know

[calm pulsar]

geon needs to marry wooting

[ionic breach]

divorce is a good name to call an alice kb

[cold bloom]

you can do this in via for mx boards too it's great

[cedar gate]

Wooting needs to leave gateron lol

The marriage is abusive toward my wallet

[calm pulsar]

they already did

cause lekker v2s are made by grain gold

[zealous cairn]

Do I need to remove all my switches to remove the 80he screw in stabilizers?

[robust siren]

no

you only need to take off the keycaps

[cedar gate]

🇼

[cedar gate]

You can just remove the keycapd

I'm trying to perfect my Japanese rn it's super amateur

[zealous cairn]

sweet, I was able to get it, thanks

[cedar gate]

W

[honest wyvern]

any stab for the 60he?

like recommendation

[robust siren]

normal 60he or he+?

[honest wyvern]

h3+

he+

i think so

[robust siren]

check the box first lol

[honest wyvern]

he+

[robust siren]

sw knights are good screw-in stabilizers

[honest wyvern]

also any mod the recommended doing? i have jade and alumaze

[robust siren]

i dont really have much going on tbh

i got raws, fr4 plate, sw knights, tape and burger mod

with the tofu60 redux

[robust siren]

this is my build
#🔧│keyboard_modding message

the stabs only have lube, no holee or any of that sort

[honest wyvern]

hmmmmm

[fathom crescent]

Saw some keycaps where it says abs + pbt in the description
So which one is it?

[honest wyvern]

huh?

you have link?

[cedar gate]

Black knight stabs are great tx aps are also quite good

[cedar gate]

Solid setup

[cedar gate]

👍👍

[true patrol]

chances are they are just pbt, but yeah definitely link them for clarity

abs is usually more indicative of "high end" so if they said both it's probably just to muddy the waters so you don't realize they're just pbt

very unlikely that they are actually both

[robust siren]

isnt black knight a switch? 😅

[cedar gate]

I call knight stabs black knight out of habit lol because I have them I'm black

[robust siren]

ah i see

[cedar gate]

Ik it's dumb

[robust siren]

nah its okay lol

[honest wyvern]

but the clear colour is the same?

[fathom crescent]

https://swagkeys.com/collections/swagkeys-double-shot-keycaps/products/in-stock-sw-la-vie-en-rose-pbt

[fathom crescent]

Ah I see

[ionic breach]

pbt is usually a blend of pbt and abs

[true patrol]

to expand on this: the only time I have ever seen "pbt + abs" in keycaps is in the OEM keycaps that come on the HHKB, they are pbt but use an abs spacebar

[true patrol]

they do say the legends are doubleshot so the only thing I can think is that they mean the caps are pbt and the legends are abs

[glacial wind]

My swagkey peony finally shipped. Hopefully be here tomorrowish

[fathom crescent]

So would those eventually wear off or just shine?

[true patrol]

assuming they are actually doubleshot like it says, they will never wear off

as for whether they will shine, I'm not sure, I guess it depends where the ABS and PBT are

[fathom crescent]

Got it

[cedar gate]

idk like i said its dumb but i just call them that

[fathom crescent]

I should probably email the vendor once just to make sure

Ty for the help

[cedar gate]

i think the first person i heard mention them called them that thats why

[true patrol]

it's a blend and/or one shot is abs the other is pbt
blends are pretty common, not usually advertised as such

response I got from people who know better than me, so yeah I'd hit up the vendor if you can

[fathom crescent]

Pog

Will do

Appreciate it

[crude kayak]

I've been looking around for new 60% cases and i realized that all the new release have the USB port centered, is there any technical reason ?

[calm pulsar]

no reason, they are just not released for wooting (gh60 pcb)

[tiny summit]

Has anyone applied keebtape on wooting 60he+ before, doesn't look like the pre cut screw holes align properly🤔💭

[crude kayak]

I wish there was at least one gh60 high end case, the frog mini is not even in stock anymore

[calm pulsar]

Cafege store (Au) said they will be stocking some left over frog minis from Geon some time later

[crude kayak]

Oh thats nice

[knotty iron]

send pics and an rgb test of the switches themselves 👀

[jagged hazel]

Which switch do you guys recommend for the wooting? want something that has a smooth feel and nice sound. So far im tempted to get the geon raw he

[covert mulch]

Anyone have a recommendation on a case for the 60he? I’m looking through the list and it seems a lot are sold out or on aliexpress that I don’t trust fully and am afraid it’s going to take a long time for delivery

[jagged hazel]

i got the tofu 60 and i love it

[dusk sedge]

Would filming the gateron jades potentially cause performance issues? Like would filming mess with the hall effect at all?

[covert mulch]

Yea but that’s sold out :’(

I saw that their alumaze wasn’t that bad compared on with this video, but it also seems that the Tofu is still the better choice https://youtu.be/4bvLyb2HhrU?si=tpo7ajwPjXLBGn_e

[tacit thunder]

Does the gateron jades because of the lower max actuation point still cause a problem with the stabilizers if i use the stock keycaps or is it only a problem if i use aftermarket keycaps?

[celest parrot]

You should use a decent keycaps set and you'll be fine

[jagged hazel]

All colors? I picked the grey one up not too long ago. They see to restock fairly often too

[random hull]

any other retailer than deltakeyco in EU that sells knight v2s? id imagine cheapest is to buy them from within EU. Swagkeys had insane shipping cost

[rotund holly]

Hi, I just got ceramic keycaps and the spacebar is too heavy for the spring so it’s not working properly…which spring size would I need to upgrade the switch to? I’m just confused on it thanks in advance

[rotund holly]

Okay thank you!

[south totem]

hey guys, the w80he pcb takes 1.2mm stabs or 1.6mm ?

[vague stag]

when installing new stabs, do you disassemble the whole keyboard and remove the switchplate or do you just clip them in while the whole keyboard is assembled?

I am talking about clip ins

[crimson sky]

you can do it with just the one switch removed

[paper bloom]

Clip ins you dont gotta

just open a latch and boom done solved

If its screw ins well u know the entire part of disassembly so yea

[stone flax]

nuhuh

clip ins also need to be dissasembled

seeing as theyre also pcb mount

plate mounts would not

[paper bloom]

Wat

[stone flax]

unless the plate enables that

[stone flax]

clip ins are still pcb mount

they may or may not necessitate dissasembly

[paper bloom]

Oh

U meant screw ins

[stone flax]

?

oh lol

this is the same confusion everyone has

[paper bloom]

Or is it a 3rd one now ?

[stone flax]

plate mount =/= clip in

plate mount = plate mount

[paper bloom]

Ik plate mount is plate mount which are clip ins

[jade storm]

mj

[stone flax]

clip in and screw in are both secured on the pcb

[jade storm]

brother

[paper bloom]

Screw ins are just screws

[stone flax]

wrong

theyre both screw in

one just uses screws and the other uses clips/clips into place or any enjambment to secure into the pcb

[paper bloom]

Thats literally what clip ins are

[stone flax]

lmfao

[paper bloom]

Unless ur referring to the svrew ins but a clip in

Function

Which acts like plate mounts

Screw*

[stone flax]

a plate mount does not necessitate a stabilizer cut out on the pcb to be installed

ur still thinking clip ins are just platemounts

they are not

if a stabilizer has this

and goes into a hole onto the back of a pcb

its pcb mount

and would u look at that

clip ins

pcb mount

plate mounts are just held in place by the tolerances of a plate

ergo

plate mount

too many people conflate clip in as being plate mount

when a more apt term would be "snap-in"

the distinguishment between screw in and clip in is that this is a screw in (uses screws)

and these are clip ins

[paper bloom]

So it means

Its a screw ins