🔧│keyboard_modding

[calm pulsar]

I started going to the gym while it's not too late

[fluid ravine]

Honestly I hated my generation for a moment

[untold wigeon]

I have a child 4 years younger than you

[fluid ravine]

but ever since 2020 came up with all these gen alphas I don't hate them anymore

[cedar gate]

i heard that gen B is starting next year and were gonna be boomers to them

[fluid ravine]

GAH DAMN

[fluid ravine]

Gen B 💀

[cedar gate]

beta

[fluid ravine]

<- yall
<- me

[tropic urchin]

I had to start going with full stubble so I could blend in, shits fucked when that happens

[cedar gate]

GET THE GAINS

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/mememaker-meme-maker-crypto-meme-memecoin-gains-gif-5954918825966398105

[cedar gate]

im an amatuer bodybuilder so i love it when ppl tell me they started gym

[fluid ravine]

WHERE'S MY PROTIEN

[fluid ravine]

I need to start somewhere

@quiet bay YOU TOO

[untold wigeon]

Protein shits are the WORST!!!

[quiet bay]

WHA

OH

[calm pulsar]

yeah I remember you mentioned your age at some point
are your kids into things like peripherals like you? 😄

[quiet bay]

I BEEN STARTED

[untold wigeon]

1 is.

[fluid ravine]

FK

I HAVENT

[quiet bay]

slowly getting my strength up

[fluid ravine]

damn brah how many kids you have

[quiet bay]

can almost do 10 pushups in a row now...

[fluid ravine]

[cedar gate]

i can almost do 120

[untold wigeon]

3 daughters. 19,21,23

[fluid ravine]

oh hell no

[cedar gate]

113 is max rn

[fluid ravine]

damn 3 daughters

how was life when they were toddlers

[calm pulsar]

lol I think ppl at the gym think I'm way younger than I am, and I also get asked for ID at stores

[polar girder]

So jade max spring the best but AE 22mm next best?

[untold wigeon]

Lots of work. I was a single dad for like 8 years

[calm pulsar]

wow, I can't imagine

[tropic urchin]

I do too and Im like 6'4 250 lol, some stores dont give a fuck

[tawdry tree]

grow a beard already

[tropic urchin]

and will card you til you start developing MPB

[cedar gate]

me and my little sis have a bet who ever has kids gets to name them after our favorite comic book charecter we speedrunning

[calm pulsar]

well I havent tried the 22mm ones myself, but I think the length is what makes them feel nice

maybe I get jade pros at some point to compare them and see if the spring is also good on them

[calm pulsar]

me and my future son Guts lmao

[cedar gate]

john and sarah

[untold wigeon]

I had 3 kids by the time I was @calm pulsar age

[cedar gate]

not too crazy

loser gets blyke and isen lol

[calm pulsar]

and here's me still not having my own house, but I guess the times are different

[untold wigeon]

Broken in Raws on Pom sound like marble chess pieces clacking together. It’s glorious

[cedar gate]

sound test pls

WHY DID I GET PC

[untold wigeon]

I didn’t have one at first. Took until the 3rd kid. lol

[tropic urchin]

Its our fault we didnt take out a mortgage in the womb

[untold wigeon]

In a bit. Watching playoff baseball

[calm pulsar]

managing that while having 3 kids is respectable I'd say

[untold wigeon]

Lost it all in a divorce. All but the kids.

[calm pulsar]

lol @fluid ravine you should've been buying bitcoin in 2008 and not slacking around in the womb

[fluid ravine]

mb mb

shouldve made money before i became an expensive kid

[tropic urchin]

If I was 5 years older and maintained my current industry (Finance), I would've went all in 😭

[thorn zealot]

@calm pulsar how do the jade maxes feel compared to raws

[tropic urchin]

Amazon too

[thorn zealot]

Are they similar in terms of stem tolerance

Or is raws still better

[tropic urchin]

Tolerences is still Raws from his earlier tests

[thorn zealot]

Ah ok

I was thinking he prob said it earlier

But didn’t feel like reading 500 messages in this channel

[calm pulsar]

raws still a bit better on wobble, especially left-right movement

but jade maxes feel interesting, a breath of fresh air cause of different materials

[fluid ravine]

oh shi fr?

[thorn zealot]

I see

[untold wigeon]

Pitching change. Here you go @cedar gate

[fluid ravine]

whats the max materials?

[thorn zealot]

I prob still go for raws cuz of price

[calm pulsar]

iirc it's PC stem PC upper

[calm pulsar]

yeah absolutely they are a recommend

[fluid ravine]

pc stem?!

ohw ait that makes sense

transparent

[calm pulsar]

it's almost closer to majong than actual jades

[fluid ravine]

interesting

maybe that's why the pitch on the bottom out is a smitch lower than the raws

[untold wigeon]

I’d agree with that

[thorn zealot]

I would get raws if I didn’t just spend 300 on new iems

[tropic urchin]

oooh which did you cop?

[thorn zealot]

Xenn tea pro

[calm pulsar]

there's so many different variables, but yeah they seem kinda more tamed, compressed

[tropic urchin]

based

[thorn zealot]

They are actually so beautiful

[tropic urchin]

I have the Xenns Top and they're amazing

When you're able to i recommend getting a DAC, its game changing imo

[thorn zealot]

Yeah I alr have k7

[tropic urchin]

damn already ahead of me lmao

it took me a year ish to get one

[calm pulsar]

I need to get one too some day, for my open back headphones

[tropic urchin]

then I realized my mobo audio was hot garbage

[tropic urchin]

Ifi Zen Dac V3 is what im using and has been great

[thorn zealot]

Yeah my k7 will be my endgame

[tropic urchin]

as a budget option

[thorn zealot]

Since I’m only getting iems

Maybe when I want headphones I’ll get a better amp

[fluid ravine]

trying to look up the materials rn

[untold wigeon]

I have a k5 pro. It’s awesome

[thorn zealot]

Yeah the only reason I got the k7 is for balance

Even though it’s not true balance

[untold wigeon]

Smart

[thorn zealot]

But we straight

[calm pulsar]

weirdly the official page on gateron dot com changed, but I found this on aliexpress listing from which I bought em

[fluid ravine]

interesting

[untold wigeon]

Now you need clear keycaps. Full rgb. Blindness mode

[fluid ravine]

Arcylic case

[calm pulsar]

they are dual rail as well btw, so it's another variable that I wonder if it affects the sound in any way lol

[fluid ravine]

i mean tighter tolerance than jades which helps the top out sound

[thorn zealot]

I can’t stop looking at these

I actually can’t wait for them to come

[tropic urchin]

Xenns line has some fire designs

[thorn zealot]

Ik

[fluid ravine]

if PC stem helps lowering the pitch on the bottom out then in theory it should do the same with the top out, also translating to a softer top out as well i think, including with the stem tolerance ofc.

[calm pulsar]

yeah It'd probably look very nice with the silver case, but I have multiple gmk sets that I spent a stupid amount on, so gotta utilize them

[calm pulsar]

they do seem softer than normal jades, while being cleaner sounding at the same time

[fluid ravine]

that gud that gud

[calm pulsar]

overall nice switch, but I still said that the price is dumb in my aliexpress review

[fluid ravine]

i still dont fk with the price at all

no one should

[untold wigeon]

If I had those switches I’d be forced to do a clear build. Case, plate, switches and caps.

[cedar gate]

Awesome

[fluid ravine]

reminding me of the fricking highgrounds graphic switches lol

[untold wigeon]

Yeah it’s pretty good

[calm pulsar]

lool I remember this from glarses vid

[fluid ravine]

ye ye

[calm pulsar]

https://novelkeys.com/pages/classic-tkl-info

[celest parrot]

Hello guys. Do you have a recommendation on a lubing station that will help me organize stuff?

[untold wigeon]

Kinda. But I mean everything but the pcb totally clear

[tropic urchin]

As long as you have a surface + Switches + brushes and your lube you should be fine to wing it (what I did)

[untold wigeon]

A cheaper one. They’re all pretty much the same.

[tropic urchin]

I wouldn't go too crazy getting a perfect station, just get what you need for cheap and go on your way to glory

[calm pulsar]

yeah that would be very cool, with orange-ish rgb it will give some tube amp vibes, I've seen builds like this

[celest parrot]

I have all of these accept a place to hold em after I'm finished

[calm pulsar]

I got me a very simple plastic station, helps organize a bit and keep the consistency when lubing

[celest parrot]

I found one on ali that holds 90 switches for like $35ish

[untold wigeon]

Yeah it’d be sweet

[tropic urchin]

Id just use your switch container for when you're done

[harsh dove]

I got a lube station when I first started but now I just use little bowls and containers to hold my switch components when I'm lubing

[untold wigeon]

You don’t need all that. Just get a small one and put finished switches in a dish.

[stone flax]

yikes vro

[celest parrot]

I thought like this and got like 5 plastic containers to hold everything on it

[stone flax]

just pick one up from aliexpress for 4 dollars

does the same thing

[celest parrot]

That might be enough

[untold wigeon]

That’s what I do. I use two cereal bowls

[tropic urchin]

@calm pulsar I finished my switches!!

[calm pulsar]

sus

but congrats

[celest parrot]

Tomorrow I shall start lubing I hope it won't take 8 hours lol

[tropic urchin]

not gonna do me like that LMFAO

[untold wigeon]

61 takes me 3 hours

[stone flax]

what are we lubing tho

[harsh dove]

Should only be about 4 hrs if its your first time ever, as you do it more over time (if you do), you can get it down to about 1.5 to 2 hrs

[uneven cradle]

Same, this was a while ago

[celest parrot]

I'm lubing 180 switches

[harsh dove]

oof

[celest parrot]

Lekkers v2 and raws

[tropic urchin]

WOAH

[stone flax]

yuh mousepad

[tropic urchin]

holy jesus

[stone flax]

needs a tender clean

[untold wigeon]

That’s the way to do it

[tropic urchin]

maybe you might need 2 containers..

[uneven cradle]

I did get the little geon tray though

[celest parrot]

I got 5

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/skin-gif-9928966

[uneven cradle]

It's alright we cleaned em couple days ago

[stone flax]

[untold wigeon]

Nice.

[stone flax]

is dat a zero

[untold wigeon]

Now do mine

[uneven cradle]

It do be

[harsh dove]

I see a Saturn, Artisan, idk the other

[untold wigeon]

I have to clean my Artisan Otsu it’s gonna take forever to dry. X-soft

[celest parrot]

Based mouse pads collection

[uneven cradle]

Yeah I don't use any of them anymore I have a gecko

[untold wigeon]

What’s a gecko?

[uneven cradle]

https://www.addiceinc.com/products/errennir-gecko-large-gaming-mousepad

[untold wigeon]

Looks nice. How does it compare to Artisan?

[fluid ravine]

ooo

[uneven cradle]

I've only used a zero but it's smooth as

[fluid ravine]

more mousepads to learn about

yipee

[tropic urchin]

@calm pulsar is long pole the one I want (its the only option not sold out)

[calm pulsar]

since jade max have a shorter travel yeah

it's not absolutely necessary bit will be a bit nicer

[uneven cradle]

Last one is a Focus Ambition it's a smaller release from a aus/nz company

[stone flax]

You like control leaning pads i assume?

[tropic urchin]

$19 shipping holy

[uneven cradle]

Yeah although I really like the gecko and that's a bit faster

[calm pulsar]

yeah from korea

[tropic urchin]

Fuck it we ball

[stone flax]

are u us?

[tropic urchin]

Ye

[stone flax]

can prolly wait a vendor out

is this for the 80he?

[tropic urchin]

Yessir

[calm pulsar]

true, could wait for divinikey or smth

[tropic urchin]

I wanted new stabs to match my maxes and saw the Knight stabs and had to have it to complete the look

I signed up for Divinikey to email me for new arrivals

[calm pulsar]

now that I think of it sw knights even have gold wires like the gold spring on maxes lol

[tropic urchin]

its too perfect

I have my 80HE perfectly planned out now

now its up to Mark to deliver an update

[kind olive]

thank you! the starwars keycap was on clearance sale and grabbed it as soon as I can

[calm pulsar]

is your 80he semitransparent?

[tropic urchin]

White zinc

im a metal keyboard supremacist

I cant do plastic

and the Zinc is heavenly marble sound

[calm pulsar]

fair

[tropic urchin]

I think the white zinc matches my GMKs alot better than semi transparent ever could imo

then factor in maxes + wooting RGB brightness and its gonna be an actual rave

even if no backlit caps are being used

[calm pulsar]

bright blue rgb will probably look very cool on a white case

[tropic urchin]

You've read into my plans

Im planning on doing a 50/50 split between the calcite Lazurite alphas + white novelties and the standard blue + blue novelities each on their own side

[untold wigeon]

@polar girder here you go. lol.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/126714888992?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=o0540lrkrai&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=8hmdpzngt6k&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[calm pulsar]

unisex

[fluid ravine]

fr

[tiny summit]

Is the Molykote EM-50L lube good enough for the sw knight stabalizers?🤓

[fluid ravine]

yes

it's for the wire btw since it's grease

you use krytox for stem and housing

[tiny summit]

Thank you! Will do!🫡

[fluid ravine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxHb6CJc9V8

[calm pulsar]

for knights 205 is recommended for wires as well though

[tiny summit]

👀

[fluid ravine]

oh yeah i forgot

[calm pulsar]

due to tighter tolerances

[fluid ravine]

the wire and stem fitment

yeah

it's better to use something that has a not too thick viscosity

so krytox 205g0 is a good choice for the whole stab itself

[tiny summit]

Got it, is a generous ammount still recommended, and does this video still apply even though these stablaizers are long stem? 🙂

[fluid ravine]

yes

the focus of the video is tuning and lubing stabs

so the main focus is applying lube within the stabs internally

[calm pulsar]

swagkeys have their own tutorial on YT too

[fluid ravine]

oh to have them make a plate mounted ver.

[calm pulsar]

something similar in terms of features would probably be durock v3s? with the silicone injection thing

[fluid ravine]

yeah true

sometimes one is "better" 👀 than the other

[tiny summit]

Perfect! Thanks everyone!🤓 is there a specific tutorial you recommend for these stabalizers?

[calm pulsar]

https://youtu.be/6DufwlfY42Q

they showcase lubing process here

[fluid ravine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73j3hbwt22w

[calm pulsar]

yeah and this is a dedicated vid lol so nvm what I sent

[tiny summit]

Thanks again guys!🙂

[stone flax]

designer goat studio

[calm pulsar]

give Thackson a link

[fluid ravine]

need myself long poles as well

even tho it aint much of a big deal but i still figure i would want it anyways

[calm pulsar]

yeah after using long poles I do recommend

[fluid ravine]

fkkkkkkkkkkk

need my stabs to bottom out :[

[calm pulsar]

geon spacers probs work the exact same so

[fluid ravine]

yeah

they shoudl

i mean that mindset of knowing you using it just hits me

[calm pulsar]

mine arrive tomorrow or the day after along with knights

[calm pulsar]

yeah I think it's a quality change cause long pole solves the tilting issue when you press with force at the sides of the keycap

[fluid ravine]

yeah but then on my side sometimes only one side of my stabs bottom out

making the stab sound uneven in pitch

esp in the spacebar

annoying af

but i gotta deal with it by ignoring it as much as possible

[calm pulsar]

oh sounds like not fun

[fluid ravine]

yeah i keep bitching about it usually

like all the time 😂

but i straight up gave up

[calm pulsar]

is it just the tx ap stabs?

[fluid ravine]

yeah

plate mount

[calm pulsar]

yeah I wasnt lucky with my tx ap pcb mounts too but that was due to plates

[tropic urchin]

W Video

[fluid ravine]

yeah mine fits fine and everything

i prob had problems with the wire but not that huge ig

[thorn zealot]

Off topic but I think this is meta skate placement

[fluid ravine]

oh yeah that's a whole ice rink right there

goated

[thorn zealot]

Air hockey glide

[fluid ravine]

type shi

[thorn zealot]

My alu plate is finally coming

I sure hope my cherry clip ins fit

[untold wigeon]

Half the skates aren’t doing anything lol. Has to be super wobbly

[thorn zealot]

Nah trust

They on to somethin

[calm pulsar]

on crack

[thorn zealot]

Why of course

That’s why I need the hook up

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/tyrone-biggums-shookt-dave-chappelle-wtf-shocked-gif-9449026

[stray tiger]

I've got some plates coming too

[thorn zealot]

Yeah I’ve been waiting for that plate since aug 23

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/tony2guns-gainz-dumbbell-training-bicep-gif-22570089

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/bulking-not-sulking-no-pain-no-gain-protein-power-finger-training-work-out-gif-13768253

[inland kayak]

Bro chill on online shopping lol

[stray tiger]

Its prime day!

[inland kayak]

Worst day for it to be ngl

[uneven cradle]

More keycap sets in between lifting sets 💪

[thorn zealot]

At least what he bought is useful

[inland kayak]

Yeah but when u think about what ur about to purchase multiple times you I’ll at least remove half of the stuff

[stray tiger]

Needed some stuff to finish out our overlanding/camping rig so grabbed a 12v fridge and solar generator.

Oh and the gf ordered weights for her home gym

[inland kayak]

Solar generator must’ve been expensive lol

[calm pulsar]

benching full kits with novelties

[stray tiger]

I have too many kits as is. Need to consolidate

[calm pulsar]

very understandable

I do need an MX board to utilize my sets

[stone flax]

oooooooooooooo

new one?

[calm pulsar]

well just dreaming for now lol
some day

[stone flax]

what layout?

[brittle trench]

Hi everyone, does anyone have recommendations on ANSI PBT shine-through black & red caps? Can be top or side printed.

[calm pulsar]

tkl would be nice

[stone flax]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

cycle 8 extras in november

and uhhh

will spyder do one?

idk

but those are some good budget ends

well maybe cusp of it

hmm i think spyders over

[calm pulsar]

maybe something from geon later

[tropic urchin]

Very unrelated question: For an artisan gemstone keycap with a weight of 3 oz what spring weight would be recommended

[fluid ravine]

100grams ig? 😭

3oz is wild

[calm pulsar]

whats that in non freedom units

[tropic urchin]

85g

[calm pulsar]

holyy
cerakey spacebar alone is like twice as lighter

I think

[fluid ravine]

like one Capslock cerakeycap is like 5g bruh

[tropic urchin]

Opal key cap so not surprised its kinda wild

[fluid ravine]

Fyi Cerakey Spacebar is 20g

(19.3 specifically)

so 4 times lighter

[fluid ravine]

you might as well use a pen spring 😂

[tropic urchin]

Thockfather dropped the link when I mentioned I wanted artisan gemstone keycaps and its a crazy catalogue 💀

would be funny if it didnt fit lowkey

[marsh saffron]

100g probably

Can probably get away with an 80g spring but raise the actuation a lot

[stone flax]

why frog :<

when can get cycle

hmmm

[uneven cradle]

Not made by geon

[untold wigeon]

Send em my way. I’ll give them a good home lol

[cedar gate]

Fr my pbt spacebar is like 8 almost 3 times the weight

[uneven cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jordan-bulls-last-dance-espn-nba-gif-17151154

[brittle trench]

Just wanted to ask to make sure this is the right orientation for the raw he switches (with the “geon” being upside down)

[glacial wind]

yeah that's fine

[brittle trench]

Alrighty, ty

[young lantern]

has anybody tried using the original jades on an apex pro mini? says compatible

might repurpose my jades since theyre just laying around

[glacial wind]

by compatible they mean compatible if you want to desolder the old switches lol

[young lantern]

yes i was aware

interesting since the maxes dont have the compatibility notice but the original ones do

[tawdry tree]

All KS-20 series switches should be compatible. Although I’m not sure how good Steelseries’ calibration is so Jade variants might not work well.

[young lantern]

thats a good point actually thank you

[brittle trench]

these raw switches are no joke, very very little side play vs the lekkers

[glacial wind]

another satisfied member of our glorious following!

@polar girder https://swagkeys.com/products/sw-knight-stabilizer?variant=45727031296253 they restocked black after you gave up

[prime orbit]

gmk is the best right for keycaps

[honest nacelle]

debatable but sure

[prime orbit]

what do u think?

[honest nacelle]

depends what you want

I think gmk is overrated, personally

but they have nice designs and that's all they have going for them

pbt will have superior shine resistance, and/or better texture (but that's subjective)

pbt is also normally cheaper and easier to get good pbt cheaply

[quasi hinge]

Anyone else got the Jade Maxs and notice how 'sticky' they are?

I installed them on my wooting 80he and unless you press them straight down, they feel sticky when strafing left to right, all keys

[uneven cradle]

Nothing beats the sound and feeling of double shot ABS

[ionic breach]

for gmk you pay for the design and colour

[honest nacelle]

no, you pay for the gmk name

gmk made their reputation for good keycaps

and then charged insane prices for it

but since then, other materials have surfaced and are cheaply produced, and can replicate most of the colours

[crimson sky]

texture comes purely from the tooling

[honest nacelle]

gmk literally only keeps prices high because of their name, not necessarily because of quality

[uneven cradle]

They are manufactured in Germany of course they have high prices if any other manufacturer did the same they would also have higher prices

[ionic breach]

ya somewhat

but theres this

[honest nacelle]

partly yea, but the actual material plays a fair bit into texture

[ionic breach]

fk i forgot whats its called

[honest nacelle]

even 'smooth' pbt doesn't really feel smooth smooth

[ionic breach]

one minute

[crimson sky]

gmk still is "overpriced" because they only have limited production capacity

if they are booked out the natural thing is to increase prices

[crimson sky]

smooth PBT can be glossy

[prime orbit]

if im just getting WOB like default keycaps which quality should i get?

[uneven cradle]

You can make anything glossy with a bit of acetone

[crimson sky]

not sure if PBT is actually affected by acetone

[ionic breach]

oh ya gmk cosmos

[crimson sky]

but like model M caps are glossy on the side and quite rough on the top

those are PBT

[ionic breach]

and those sparkly gmk sets

[crimson sky]

but DCS is similar, and that can both be PBT and ABS

[honest nacelle]

true, but I typically don't see it. And my main point abt shine resist stands

[uneven cradle]

I have no idea but it does a number on abs

[crimson sky]

yea but that issue also is overblown, people often think of laser ablated ABS, on which the UV coat and the paint on top wears and makes hte keycaps look like crap before anything even happened to the ABS itself

[crimson sky]

yea but different plastics react differently to chemicals

[uneven cradle]

That's true but all these keycaps aside from MTNU have an abs blend so I imagine it does something

[crimson sky]

hard to predict

[honest nacelle]

oh yea ofc the issue is overblown, that's the nature of issues - but the point of it stands. Paying extraordinary prices for (save for the design) markedly average keycaps considering the other options, and having it shine fairly quickly after a few months of decent/heavy use is not going to be in GMK's favour

they have no way to justify their prices outside of their brand

GMK atp is mostly just known to produce design sets

[crimson sky]

they are not average tho

quality wise only 2 manus match atm

SP is even more expensive

and KKB is not that much behind

[uneven cradle]

I mean if that's the case then GMK MTNU just clears in everything

[crimson sky]

GMK doesn't really make their own designs either, but the same is true for SP and KKB

[honest nacelle]

quality in what

[crimson sky]

keycaps?

[honest nacelle]

yea but what specifically

[uneven cradle]

Who else has double shot pure PBT manufacturing capability

[crimson sky]

I want doubleshot caps most of the time

[crimson sky]

disregard PBT even

there are not many manus that make good doubleshot caps to begin with

dyesub can't match the colors

that is the entire reason why cherry made handarbeit, they are that colorful to flex

because at the time the rest of the industry either did beige dyesubs or UV pritns

[honest nacelle]

yea but colour should not be the metric with which you say that GMK is market leading or w/e

[crimson sky]

yea but if I want color + quality I can get GMK, KKB or SP DCS

[honest nacelle]

like I don't have particularly acidic sweat but I shouldn't be able to shine a set with 3 months of use

[honest nacelle]

quality as what, kitting? or resistance to shine

[crimson sky]

with dyesub I have to stick with beige sets or somethign similar like DCS duo

[crimson sky]

like actual production quality lol

[honest nacelle]

what does that entail

[crimson sky]

something like aifei doubleshots kinda suck

[crimson sky]

decent legends, good (customizable) kitting etc

good colors

a lot of cheap manus don't even do custom colors for sets

[honest nacelle]

granted, but they're also like a fraction of the price

[crimson sky]

yea i'd rather have good caps instead of saving 60% and then receiving crap

[honest nacelle]

and in any case the measure of quality I use is shine resistance since if I buy keycaps I'm buying them to use them not just have them sit pretty cuz if I use it it'll shine

[crimson sky]

otherwise I can just stick to beige and get good caps for 30-40€

[crimson sky]

yea even then most doubleshot PBT kinda sucks

seen it getting quite worn for some people in under a year

[honest nacelle]

sure

but that's like what

10 months

[crimson sky]

aka

just stick to dyesub

[honest nacelle]

i'm ngl

for practical sets that I'm gonna use

I'm not spending 150+ on a set that shines in 3 months

[crimson sky]

actually have not notcied any wear on my DCS now that you mention it

[honest nacelle]

when I can spend like 50 on a 'worse' set that shines in 10 months

[honest nacelle]

DCS is drop's set right?

well, profile

[crimson sky]

no

DCS is SP

[honest nacelle]

SP?

[crimson sky]

DCX is drops stuff

[honest nacelle]

signature plastics?

[crimson sky]

signature plastic

their prices are stupid nowadays tho

[uneven cradle]

Shine builds character

[honest nacelle]

didn't they get bought out

[crimson sky]

kinda

[honest nacelle]

yea some weird shit i saw

[crimson sky]

they got bought

but they still operate as normal

they didn't get bought by a big corpo or somethign but by 2 guys, one of which also works there

[uneven cradle]

2 years on my work keyboard

[crimson sky]

yea asking around

DCS doesn't really wear

[honest nacelle]

shame it costs a liver and lung

[prime orbit]

Unf the keycaps I got from AliExpress are rubbing off the text already

Like a month lasted lmao

https://drop.com/buy/gmk-white-on-black-custom-keycap-set?

[crimson sky]

yea prices got quite bad, used to be 120€ in GB

[prime orbit]

Prob will get these

[crimson sky]

good price, kitting is a bit weird since that is an OOOOLD custom set

while drop kept ordering more they never updated kitting

[prime orbit]

Do you know anywhere that has better and just as minimal?

[crimson sky]

not in stock atm

you can just get that

[prime orbit]

https://divinikey.com/products/pbtfan-wob-keycap-set-doubleshot-pbt?

This good?

[crimson sky]

PBTfans is kinda sus

[honest nacelle]

sus how

[crimson sky]

they had some QC issues in the past

and getting them resolved is a bit harder since kbdfans is complicated

[honest nacelle]

iirc they only have current issues with their transparent sets

[prime orbit]

I mean so does finalmouse and everyone buys those still 💀💀

[crimson sky]

they had some sorting mixups and inner shot issues, same as gmk

but with gmk getting those resovled is easy

kbdfans might just tell you "hihi"

https://www.keykobo.com/products/in-stock-kkb-wob-text

[honest nacelle]

buy through vendor

[prime orbit]

Idk I just want the best quality minimal keycaps pretty much

[honest nacelle]

not from pbtfans

kbdfans*

[crimson sky]

yea, vendors are stuggling to get a response from kbdfans

that is part of the issue

[honest nacelle]

i mean its a headache no matter what

but the vendor foots the hassle

[crimson sky]

pbtfans is a kbdfans brand just fyi

[honest nacelle]

no?

yea ik I corrected myself cuz we were talking abt brands

and pbtfans is just kbdfans line of pbt sets

fuck i keep typing on autopilot

need to get off the monkeytype

[prime orbit]

What is DCX?

[crimson sky]

keykobo is just as good as gmk, if not ever so slightly better in regards to doubleshot clarity, the earlier batches had some slight issues with tolerances on stabilized keys but if you get problems with that it can be resolved

[honest nacelle]

drop's profile

[crimson sky]

not even just pbt sets anymore, they make pbtfans sets out of abs as well lol

[crimson sky]

drops gmk clone

[honest nacelle]

oh lmfao been out of that world for a bit

[prime orbit]

So there really isn’t a “best” quality wise or site wise

[honest nacelle]

I'm still gonna stick with my pbt since every non-pbt set i've owned has shined in <3 months

I think without fail

[crimson sky]

newer keykobo is good, but even the "faulty" ones are barely an issue

if you do get annoyed by it just put a bit of painters tape on the stab stem and you are good

[prime orbit]

I just don’t want my paint or whatever to rub off after a month lmao

[crimson sky]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1282742907278987467/1284101461176881263/20240913_123911.jpg?ex=670857ed&is=6707066d&hm=be6081eb6d95da048f02df3278596d836e5ecbb763a71f5b848c96c48201e14f&

that is kkb WoB

[prime orbit]

Clean

[honest nacelle]

none of the keycap sets/brands we mentioned will fade in your lifetime

[crimson sky]

quite dusty actually

[prime orbit]

Ok cool cuz yeah after a month use my keycaps are fading and stuff

Mad annoying

Also hate white so no more white in my life.

[crimson sky]

just checked, I have owned them since december 2022, have used them for maybe a year total

[prime orbit]

That’s what I get for cheaping out on AliExpress tho lmao

[honest nacelle]

even the cheap sets will last you a lifetime

as long as its not printed legends it will outlast you

[crimson sky]

you can get XMI caps on aliexpress for 40€, those will last and have good dyesub quality

they also offer quite a range of beige sets

[prime orbit]

I just want black

Lmao

I’m a normie

[crimson sky]

yea then dyesub would kinda suck

[prime orbit]

Sad times

My wallet is crying

[crimson sky]

[cosmic forge]

hey, just got my lekker v2 order, but i do not see v2 mentioned on the box
is it right?

[left depot]

can u send a pic?

[cosmic forge]

I am blind

🤣

[left depot]

your words not mine

[cosmic forge]

Was focusing on the non transparent text

[left depot]

[glacial wind]

i can't decide if the tut comic set are awful or amazing

[left depot]

I see what theyre going for but something looks off to me

[cosmic marsh]

so finally, at Wooting 2 HE the Gateron jades are Working, sounds a lot better than Lekker v1

[ionic breach]

ngl looks more like if painted wood

than a comic

well i guess comics are painted wood

[chilly mural]

Looks metal while not

[chilly mural]

Paper is wood, somewhat

[glacial wind]

it might look better on a white board maybe

[prime orbit]

Does look cool tho

[austere creek]

yeah idk why it says manga

looks like madworld or okami

[untold wigeon]

I need these. Where can I find them?

[left depot]

maybe a more popular keyword to use for keycap sets compared to comic/ink?

[glacial wind]

kdbfans and other shops that stock tut keycaps

[hard wraith]

guys i think im crazy, is it me or does the lekker v1 sounds better than the jades
Jade on the left Jade Max in the middle and right is the Lekker L60 V1

[glacial wind]

you're on cerakeys or something? It changes the sound profile a bunch, particularly for clackier switches

[hard wraith]

yeah

I have another set of gmks but i havent recive em

[glacial wind]

you might just prefer muted sounds. To me the lekkers sound empty and hollow like HE, but just deeper due to ceramic keys

[hard wraith]

hmmm

maybe

I think I should try it with some different caps later

[nova ivy]

What keycaps can I get that are budget friendly to fit the 60he+?

I want to change out wasd space and shift really

[hard wraith]

any keycaps with the normal stem fits?

[calm pulsar]

now that’s what I call stabilizer cutout

[safe stag]

where is the majong sound lmao ?

[hard wraith]

idk I think I ate em

[safe stag]

xD

They’re supposed to sound like this

[nova ivy]

I've never modified a keyboard so was hoping someone could help

[hard wraith]

Yeah I think I ate them sounds

😋

[hard wraith]

Just any normal keycaps will fit, Lekker uses normal stems

[safe stag]

I ate my C³EQUALZ X TKC Tangerine 67

do you like jades max btw ?

[nova ivy]

Any suggestions for something cool looking/where to buy from

[calm pulsar]

lmao

[quasi hinge]

Any of you guys have issues with the Jade Maxs?

All of mine feel 'sticky' even after lubing

unless pressed directly down

[safe stag]

I talked about this yesterday

[quasi hinge]

I missed it

nice name lmao

[safe stag]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

this?

[calm pulsar]

I installed mine in stock yesterday, I don't notice the stickyness, but it is due to housing and stem material

not sure how you can press keys not directly though lol

[quasi hinge]

100% that'

My jade maxs are useless to me

[safe stag]

and it's worse with keycaps on like on my jades max ?

[quasi hinge]

ordered the Geon Raws

[quasi hinge]

yes, unusable when playing

I ordered 150

[safe stag]

??

[quasi hinge]

all of them have the issue

[safe stag]

why

[calm pulsar]

wtf...

[quasi hinge]

for 2 keebs

[safe stag]

it's because of the dual rail structure apparently

[calm pulsar]

ah

[quasi hinge]

complete failure

[safe stag]

just buy jades pro, or geon raws

[quasi hinge]

I got the Geon Raws!

do the Jade Pros have this issue?

[safe stag]

xD, I wasn't aware of that before I bought them

[calm pulsar]

geon raws should be better on tolerances than pros anyways, so you're good

[safe stag]

apparently no because they aren't dual rail

[quasi hinge]

yeah but will they get stuck like the Jade Maxs?

[quasi hinge]

Id like to confirm before I throw more money away haha

[safe stag]

xDDD

[calm pulsar]

havent seen any such feedback from anyone using raws

and I use them too

[safe stag]

next switches I'll buy is probably neo lavenders he

[hard wraith]

idk, Im waiting for the keycaps to arrive, i havent really use the keyboard

[quasi hinge]

you dont see anything like this?

[hard wraith]

prob amazon

[quasi hinge]

well that is reassuring

im coming from the geon raptors so hopefully they kept the bright idea to keep them slick

my wooting 80he is shelved as the jade maxs make it useless haha

my 60+ with raptors is going well

[safe stag]

I’ve seen those complaints on raw, and a lot of people use them

[calm pulsar]

what did you lube jade maxes with?

[quasi hinge]

are you serious?

[safe stag]

Oh no

I forgot the "not"

I’ve NEVER seen

[quasi hinge]

lmao haha

pfew*

[safe stag]

xD

[quasi hinge]

Krytox 205g0

[calm pulsar]

I see

I genuinely can't run into this issue on my maxes rn
I've been playing wow yesterday and haven't noticed a difference in use after switchting from raws to maxes

but I also used them stock so there's that

[quasi hinge]

Im not sure if its my batch but all 150 are like that

any side movement and it gets stuck

I play cod mobile on gameloop and I cant strafe or make delicate movements

any fps

[safe stag]

Nearly half of mines are like this, and the more I use them the worse it gets

[quasi hinge]

same, thats why I shelved my 80he

[calm pulsar]

I mean there is definitely some friction when you deliberately press from the sides, but I have to go out of my way to do that on a built keyboard, so my input isnt affected when I normally type or game

[quasi hinge]

could just be how we type or different batches but 150/150 are unusable to me

[calm pulsar]

yeah that's sad
can you still return them?

[quasi hinge]

devastating lol

[calm pulsar]

ah you lubed them, so maybe not

not sure

[quasi hinge]

ordered direct from gateron, hassle for me to return

some brave friends will try lol

I will give them away

[calm pulsar]

potentially, the lube might just set in and it will be less annoying

but that's in theory

[quasi hinge]

I can see the lube

it definitely settled alright haha

shame

[hard wraith]

seeing these message i kinda wanna test my batch ngl

[quasi hinge]

bruh

ill send you my 90 for free

free me from my curse

wahahahaha

[hard wraith]

imma finish this game first

[calm pulsar]

@safe stag btw if you were to upgrade from your normal jades I'd probably not grab the lavenders

they are an older switch and probable have worse tolerances than jade pros

lavenders are very close to normal jades so this won't be much of an upgrade

also, while that sound test is good, keep in mind it is a different keyboard in that video, so the whole build matters as well

[tropic urchin]

Maybe try to remove the lube from some of your maxes to see if the issue is still there

[calm pulsar]

I'd probably just get jade pros

[quasi hinge]

oh I tried

considering how much was paid

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/michaeljordan-crying-sad-pouroneout-gif-4986360

[quasi hinge]

I got the geon raws for now since the raptors did me well

if those have issues ill try the old jades or the pros

[tropic urchin]

That seems kinda strange, I’ve only seen mine ‘get stuck’ when I put the stem on incorrectly when I tried to lube, but I can’t really test mine til November 😢

[quasi hinge]

thank you sir

[quasi hinge]

not only do they get sticky

when you try to remove the keycap

its like its glued to the max

[calm pulsar]

yeah I think raw he or jade pros are a safe bet

jade pros are the signature jade sound, while raws are a bit different

[quasi hinge]

takes it out from the pcb

[safe stag]

I can order just 10 to see

[tropic urchin]

The stem is a little snug to your keycaps

[calm pulsar]

yeah it's cause the stem material on maxes is polycarbonate, as opposed to POM on most switches

[quasi hinge]

LOL.... a little? hahahaha

[tropic urchin]

It’s not ideal for sure

[calm pulsar]

my gmk black snail did come off easily from maxes though, cause I change them relatively often

[quasi hinge]

using original keycaps, need the backlight

[quasi hinge]

I play in the dark

[tropic urchin]

I guess I have 5 weeks to see if this problem happens to me 😅

[quasi hinge]

I wish you the best

[calm pulsar]

you have time to wear them in

[quasi hinge]

ill send them to you wear them in for me

wahahahaha

[tropic urchin]

It is rather strange I haven’t seen this feedback anywhere else so maybe the maxes are just good on a batch by batch basis which would really suck if that is true

[tropic urchin]

Lube some for science

[quasi hinge]

for gaterons sake I hope you are correct

[calm pulsar]

for a small price of $5 per switch

[quasi hinge]

keep them! wahahaha

i think they are DOA

[tropic urchin]

Kicking the man while he’s down smh

[calm pulsar]

lol

[tropic urchin]

$750 for 150 🤣

[calm pulsar]

btw my order of jade maxes was the first ever purchase on aliexpress store

[nova ivy]

So what is the type of keycaps I should look for 60he?

[quasi hinge]

either gateron is making a huge mistake or their QC for this batch was terrible

[calm pulsar]

gateron notified me via email and ali chat cause I used to ask them about dual rail jades before jade maxes were announced

I was curious about the dual rail thing back then lol

[quasi hinge]

mine are direct from gateron

[calm pulsar]

mine are from theif official AE store, but yeah your order is probably a preorder, so could be a different batch

[hard wraith]

hmm I do see what you mean by sticky, but I didn’t lube these

[hard wraith]

I need to use it for a longer period to really notice ngl

[quasi hinge]

mine were ordered and shipped in the next few days

[calm pulsar]

mine don't look that bad and I also didnt lube them lol

[quasi hinge]

ill tag it

[quasi hinge]

Check this Video here

[quasi hinge]

its not the lube, trust me

its a design flaw I believe

when the keys are pushed in a direction it 'catches' the sides

now if you can press each key perfectly then by all means go for it

[calm pulsar]

they probably should've done them non dual rail but still with PC materials

[tropic urchin]

@calm pulsar I’m gonna have to put 200 key presses into every switch per day

[quasi hinge]

lemme know when you give up haha

[calm pulsar]

haha well I think there's no need really if you just use them normally, cause I notice the lube sets in quite fast on WASD keys

[quasi hinge]

ill pour out one for you lol

[quasi hinge]

all the keys

i have a video of my space bar getting stuck

lekkers no issue but they are not the best

[tropic urchin]

I’d just get the Geon RAWs then, will be decently low priced compared to Gateron and I’ve never seen anyone else have that issue with RAWs

[calm pulsar]

n dssassassssssdssdssssassssssfddsdadasdsadsadsadwadawwaawdwadaaaaawdwadasawdwaawdasdawawadwadassdwwassdwawadwadaadsawaw\\\\\\\\\\

[quasi hinge]

yeah exactly that

that 'little' scratchy issue makes a big deal in competitive fps

[tropic urchin]

But it seems you’re forbidden from pressing it at an angle

[vague stag]

is there a big difference in the sound profile for the geon raws if you switch the springs to the pingless springs?

[calm pulsar]

how does yours get stuck? @quasi hinge

[tropic urchin]

Those sound heavenly 🥹

[quasi hinge]

exactly like this

[hard wraith]

yeah, but arent these for looks only? Theres Jade Pros

[quasi hinge]

and like this

[quasi hinge]

they DO sound fantastic

i will give the maxs that

eargasm

but sound doesnt mean much if the basic function is impaired

here

[calm pulsar]

here are my raws with the pingless springs

[quasi hinge]

so you can imagine in a fps when side strafing, your switch getting caught is not helpful lol

[calm pulsar]

thankfully im an esports athlete cause I can't seem to run into this

[tropic urchin]

It has to be pressing the keys at an angle vs pressing them flatly in the center

[quasi hinge]

you are blessed with a good batch or delicate press skills

[hard wraith]

god damn these doesnt sound bad

[vague stag]

thanks

[calm pulsar]

im kinda scared to lube them myself now lol

[calm pulsar]

here are also jade maxes in the same build

[tropic urchin]

For ✨science✨

[hard wraith]

what case is that, cuz i kinda wanna swap my 60he barod into a new case

[calm pulsar]

yeah I do have 9 extra lol might do that at a later point

[hard wraith]

the holy60 is going back into the draw

[tropic urchin]

That would be a perfect amount

Do WASD space bar and some other ones close for movement

[calm pulsar]

this is geonworks frog mini

it's not produced anymore and I got the last one from Cafege, but they said they will be stocking some more later

[nova ivy]

Would these fit on the 60he Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out!
$33.63 | Grey Keycap Set 133 Keys PBT Double Shot Side Print Shine Through Backlit Keycaps For MX Switch Custom Mechanical Keyboard
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EzR0bMZ

[vague stag]

which one do you think sound the best (the difference is in the title)

recorded with iphone

[calm pulsar]

so the second one is without tape mod?

[vague stag]

yeah

so I did not tape mod the PCB

but the case itself

[hard wraith]

cool, imma look into it

[vague stag]

where there were "naked" aluminium

[calm pulsar]

ohh case tape mod lol

tbh both recordings seem kinda similar to me

[vague stag]

ooh, alright. I feel that the second is a bit more poppy but the first has a more deeper tone to it. Perhaps it is more noticeble IRL

[calm pulsar]

its quite pricey, but also unique cause it's one of the few cases with an alternative mounting style that also fits wooting 60he pcb

[inland kayak]

Yo thats NSFW 🙂‍↔️🙂‍↔️

[hard wraith]

How much was it? 200 something?

[calm pulsar]

410 aud😭

275 usd

[hard wraith]

oh, yeah its kinda expensive

but I just wonder how it sounds compare to a tofu or other tray mount alu case tho

cuz i have never hear of tadpole mount

[calm pulsar]

my perception is it makes the sound softer, so you get a softer clack on jades or raws, which I definitely like

also the sound is a bit more even across the board cause you don't have mounting points, the pcb kinda hangs in air

there are still spots where some alphas are brighter, but that's cause the plate is screwed onto the pcb, so you kinda can't avoid that

though I hear some ppl used the frog mini without screwing the plate to pcb

[hard wraith]

hmm

but it seems only cafege is doing a HE plate for the Frog Mini
Prob cuz the case isnt in production anymore

[calm pulsar]

yeah I got it with the HE plate already from them

but you can order a custom plate from hypekeyboards

he does frog mini HE plates too

and you can have one made with softer materials as well

[polar girder]

Naturally

Thanks for heads up bro

[hard wraith]

but finding a Frog Mini case to buy is kinda hard

[calm pulsar]

true

you can find one on mechmarket

more like might find one lol

[stone flax]

nuhuh

hype

did the one for mine

[calm pulsar]

but Bigsly here found one on there

[stone flax]

mechmarket

[polar girder]

Yeah make WTB you’ll overpay and one might magically appear 😅

[stone flax]

skill issue^^

[hard wraith]

Im not that desperate to buy one

[stone flax]

sure but the legends wont shine well if at all lol

[celest parrot]

What thickness the dampening foam should be? There is like 3,5,8 mm thickness

I took the 3 mm but didn't know if that's good or not

[stone flax]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[calm pulsar]

@stone flax venom plate arrived
no pcb yet tho

im close

[polar girder]

Ayyy

Excite

Tadpole mount plate??

That’s for frog mini or what

[calm pulsar]

yes, it’s for the venom60he pcb with the long spacebar, it should arrive tomorrow

[polar girder]

Hype

Sexy plate

Debating I should try more switch foams when I get these knight stabs

Ofc I haven’t even opened up my clear ones lol

[placid wagon]

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0631/9590/6271/files/Thunderobot_KT78_3.jpg?v=1728487358

[calm pulsar]

you mean silicone or poron plate foams?

[placid wagon]

Magnetic ink switches??

[polar girder]

https://swagkeys.com/collections/sound-dampening-foam/products/switch-pcb-foam

[polar girder]

Is that black knight/jade max hybrid ?

[placid wagon]

Zero info about the switch other than they’re “magnetic ink switches”

https://mechkeys.com/blogs/news/thunderobot-kt78-wired-magnetic-switch-keyboard-launched-with-magnetic-ink-switch-and-rt-quick-trigger

Might be exclusive to the keyboard

[hard wraith]

ngl i kinda wanna say f it and drill holes on the pcb for gummy o ring mount

[calm pulsar]

they wont fit together

[calm pulsar]

ah I see
full sheet would be way easier to install tho

[calm pulsar]

you could friction mount it without the holes

[analog shuttle]

Hello
If I say I buy a magnet switch at this point, what should I buy?
Please recommend

[hard wraith]

But imma buy it in a tofu tho

[tropic urchin]

Do you have a sound profile you’re aiming for/any budget?

[hard wraith]

Ain’t the stand off gonna interfere

Or you have a case recommendation

[tropic urchin]

A lot will recommend the RAW HE for best value/tolerances/overall sound, I’d take a look and see if that interests you as a starting point

[paper bloom]

Wooting 60HE module RAW HE

Keycaps any profile any quality

Case get a Tofu or whichever in #🪛│modding_faq

https://help.wooting.io/article/149-wooting-60he-custom-case-compatibility

[analog shuttle]

When I bought the Wooting module
I bought L45 v2 together.

Will it be similar to raw he?

[paper bloom]

no

in terms of wobble

and sound and feel

[glacial wind]

raw he is tighter switch. Geon will have sale btw in korea soon

[tropic urchin]

They’re different sound types imo, lekkers are more muted/hollow (they improved their tolerances, but raws are the tightest on the market). RAWS are more clacky

[glacial wind]

@analog shuttle sale soon on switches maybe at geons naver store

[tropic urchin]

Take a look: https://youtu.be/wYACSlhQg9E?feature=shared

[quasi hinge]

Go for the Geon Raw

[tropic urchin]

I might cop some if they do go on sale as backups

[analog shuttle]

Thanks !!!!

[polar girder]

Yeah I got that one sheet but it’s like plastic lined and not helpful

[glacial wind]

no idea if he'll do sale on non korea though. It's only announced for his korea store so far

[tropic urchin]

More anti NA propaganda 😢

Even our own fulfillment centers hate us and now Geon 😭

[analog shuttle]

I couldn't reply because I wasn't good at English

I read your questions well

Thank you so much everyone!

[tropic urchin]

Which Wooting are you planning on getting

[analog shuttle]

60he Plus Module and Aluminum Case
And I ordered a key cap

I'm waiting for the delivery

[tropic urchin]

Nice! Which keycaps did you get

[analog shuttle]

On the Wooting website
Premium? I ordered the key cap version

[tropic urchin]

Take a look at the take control keycaps if you haven’t, they have some really cool designs for the 60HE

[calm pulsar]

yeah softer ones seem nicer
I use a kbdfans sheet and it’s almost like a fabric material

[tropic urchin]

I wish we had that white marble for the 80HE 😢

[glossy pagoda]

Thocctober is a great name haha

[flat cobalt]

Got the artisan I wanted me happy

[tropic urchin]

[analog shuttle]

gateron jade vs raw he

which one win?

[tropic urchin]

Depends on what you want really. I’d probably buy the Pros over the OG Jades used in Sander’s video, but RAWs sound similar and have better tolerances/cost less $

[vague stag]

It’s all preference my dude - personally I went with the Raws, super happy with them

[tropic urchin]

If you like the Jade sound, RAWs are a safe bet, but are slightly clackier to me

But they sound great lubed

[vague stag]

As people mentioned above, they are a bit more clacky but if you lube them and use a switch plate foam and a case foam (I used the stock wooting) they sound pretty nice

[glacial wind]

Raw he better. Less switch wobble than Jade

[analog shuttle]

Sam jade pro??

same

[glacial wind]

Jade pro same level as raw he

But much more expensive - geon raw he is cheap in Korea

[tropic urchin]

RAWs are Jade Pros disguised with better tolerances

[vague stag]

I got them for roughly $0.6 per switch

through alibaba, but then again, Sweden did not pose any import tax on them so I guess I got away cheap

[glacial wind]

It’s even cheaper in Korea because geon prices everything cheaper in Korea, plus upcoming switch sale here as well

[vague stag]

with alibaba I ofc mean aliexpress if you did not get it 😄 and I would also recommend going with a PC switch plate if you are looking for a deeper sound profile

[cosmic marsh]

Thanks for yesterday, Jades are working fine

[robust siren]

nice try we all know Geon is the heavenly creator of this world

[tropic urchin]

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck..

[analog shuttle]

I solved my problem

I'll buy one more set with Raw he!

And one more qestion

Is there a big difference between the one with and without switch foam?

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-so-much-bow-bruce-lee-gif-12203305886570866249

All hail GEON

[polar girder]

Niiice

Which one

[analog shuttle]

The keyboard I'm using now is apex pro 2023

It's my first time with a custom keyboard, so I'm not sure

[calm pulsar]

this

[vague stag]

with foam - deeper and more muted sound profile, without less so. but it depends on what type of case you are going for. plastic/poron will naturally sound deeper due to its material, aluminum will sound more hollow/metallic

[flat cobalt]

The whale one

[tropic urchin]

Cosmic horror whale looks nice

[polar girder]

Dang yeah that’s sick. Grats

[vague stag]

or did you mean switch pads? if so, I have heard that you should not use them with HE switches as it can affect the precison of the sensors

[tropic urchin]

Unrelated: Is the standard Wooting escape key size 1u does anyone know?

[flat cobalt]

I think it’s on sale for the entire week, I thought it was a raffle but no. I’m really debating on picking up that Seal 100% Keyboard

[polar girder]

#868551078461968434 message

[analog shuttle]

yes switch pads! Don’t use wooting ??

[vague stag]

no

[flat cobalt]

Wowowowow carbon fiber

[vague stag]

if you mean anything like this: https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-switches-pads-2-versions

[glacial wind]

don't use switch pads. Raw he is already good fit without it

[analog shuttle]

ok!! Thank you ㅜㅜ
Raw he
40g or 50g
Wich one better??

[vague stag]

none is better, its prefence.

[tropic urchin]

Will be preference, 50g is the safe option if you’re worried about potentially fat fingering your keys

Balanced between 40g/60g

[vague stag]

I went with the 50g, felt like the sweetspot

really enjoing it

[robust siren]

50 is definately the way to go if you arent used to 40s

[analog shuttle]

I'll buy 50!!

[ebon quiver]

did someone just say mahjongy lmao

damn those are some mahjongy sounding switches

[untold wigeon]

arcsyko had me questioning myself yesterday. Is this more like maijongy or marbley?

[untold wigeon]

Me lol. Video wasn’t where it was supposed to be lol.

[calm pulsar]

me in the gym listening to keyboard sounds

[untold wigeon]

lol

[ebon quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-dance-john-cena-dance-music-jimmy-fallon-gif-17920373928252054758

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/may-the-pump-be-with-you-gif-20317691

[ebon quiver]

them switches be sounding like the voices in my head

[calm pulsar]

when it comes to HE the clack seems to be easier to achieve than “thock”

[tropic urchin]

The Gateron Jade series goes for that Mahjong tile sound profile

Is the standard Wooting escape key size 1u does anyone know?

[calm pulsar]

yes

the standard R1 esc key

[celest parrot]

My knights v2s and all lubing kits just arrived

[tropic urchin]

The knights are fire af

[celest parrot]

The gateron opener is good quality

[calm pulsar]

I got my geon brushes and the opener today

[tropic urchin]

I’m using mine to test my maxes, they all feel great.. maybe Gateron has blessed me

[celest parrot]

I bought this and I don't even know what it does😂

[tropic urchin]

Looks like case dampening ‘foam’ maybe

[celest parrot]

I saw a lot of different dampening foams and got them all

[tropic urchin]

I see we got a foam connoisseur

[celest parrot]

Hahahah no I just don't know what is the sweetspot for the foams

Trial and error kinda thing

[tropic urchin]

I’m also starting to really like GMK keycap sound profile, adds a little clack to my maxes and it sounds great

[tropic urchin]

That’s very fair

[calm pulsar]

yeah I fell in love with gmk ever since I got my first set

[tropic urchin]

I’m trending that way too. It’s a shame you can’t see thru em bc then it would be perfection, but that’s why wooting’s RGB is basically nuclear steroids

[marsh saffron]

I'm curious how much different my pbtfans x-ray is gonna sound compared to wootings pbt

First abs set

[tropic urchin]

@calm pulsar I think I found Asdasmos’s issue with one of my switches. I might have to unlube this one and quarantine it

[celest parrot]

Oh boy you guys got me so excited I can't wait to receive my gmk cosmos

It will be my first gmk set too

[tropic urchin]

I wasn’t expecting much from mine and I ended up liking it a lot. I got the GMK Lazurite set, I’d probably get cosmos if I had a black build

[calm pulsar]

just buy 200 of them and pick the best ones

[calm pulsar]

naisu

[tropic urchin]

I think it’s 100% a lube problem

[quasi hinge]

What did you find

[quasi hinge]

I think you will need to buy more than 200

[tropic urchin]

One of my switches that I tested felt and sounded like what you were describing earlier today

I’m going to unlube it with iso later

[quasi hinge]

was it the lube

[tropic urchin]

I think so, I’ve tested 20 or so and only 1 have had that issue

Where it sounded like it was stuck in mud

And stuck down

The other ones were perfect so I’m thinking that might be the case

[tropic urchin]

If I can fix the switch, I’ll let you know and maybe we can fix yours 🙂

[quasi hinge]

interesting

i had the issue without lube however I can't remember if it was as bad

[quasi hinge]

well you are the ambassador, its your namesake

[tropic urchin]

It might be angle related in your case as well, bc I’m just pressing it down flatly but even if I went around to press it so the lube goes evenly, I can’t replicate that

[tropic urchin]

Would be cool if they sponsored me

[quasi hinge]

if I was a company id love free ambassadors

they lucky to have you

[tropic urchin]

They are lucky I still wanted the Maxes after they bamboozled me with their sound tests

[quasi hinge]

especially with me dropping bombs left and right on these maxs

i think they sound great lol

To quote a sage on the gateron maxs: "it straight up defeats the purpose of magnetic switches"

[quasi hinge]

The whole point of HE switches and related software is to able to to take advantage of minute changes in the relative level. Consequently if 'stickiness' occurs when attempting to strafe quickly but they keys get stuck, it totally removes the advantage of HE keyboards and even makes the gameplay worse than the e-waste keyboards. At least for fps imo

[tropic urchin]

To me it seems like a case of overlubing, but I only have the geon switch opener to test mine on so

[quasi hinge]

For me it was basically the same without lube

[polar girder]

What’s done is done.

☠️