#🔧│keyboard_modding
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Feel the difference in typing?
as in case weight
And the case angle is not adjustable correct?
obviously if you dont have anything there itll sound different
it isnt
for me, its just fine but of course that differs from person to person
Shipping cost to US is brutal
also if you have the 60% wrist rest its completely flush with the front of the case
use divinkey
Perfect I was just about to ask
video ref:
too lazy to take a picture instead
this small gap is the only thing youll feel
hmm wait are these new new or are they just geon he springs that he started selling not long ago?
@cold bloom lol I already have all 3 weights of those
I have 62.5g ones in my raws rn, but I bag lubed them with oil
just woke up
are they the pingless ones? I thought he was just mentioning them the other day but I might be lost
oh wait i thnk it's the same
so are those already in raw HEs?
it seems he released them earlier than MX ones
they are apparently made of some material that is non magnetic and shouldn't ping
cause idk if they're really pingless lol but they're nice
oh okay
so it must be different than what's in Raw HEs
I think Aligner said these springs that are sold separately are not the ones that are in Raws
honestly I just kind of bought 50g raws and replaced them right away lol, so I don't know the difference really
I don't hear any ping from the springs, but I also didnt really know they were named "pingless" on the international website, cause I ordered from the korean store before they were available on geon.works
and when translated, it didnt say pingless
I just thought there were from some metal that is less pingy
hmm interesting
when you order from the korean site does it ship to you in the us? or do you have to use a forwarder?
I found a buyer who lives in Korea right now, I think the guy is a student there, but he does this on the side
then he ordered the stuff I needed and sent it to me
oh that's dope
yeah due to sanctions there's many people abroad who deliver goods to Russia for a commission lol
this is how I ordered the frog mini from Cafege too
im trying hard rn to get my raws to ping but I don't hear the springs pinging like I did on my jades
it's more like just gets louder since I'm on alu plate
so these springs are nice
Mb bro
Was at a volleyball game
I can't say
I would just try all of them and see whatchu like
I personally use nothing
how was the game
We won
Both girls and boys
I didn't play well though 
less go
well you still started recently I think? so all good
@fluid ravine You need to check your messages
Second game yeah
Wasnt warmed up so I started panicking, need to make a personal request when I get subbed in
Mk
does anyone have the list of all hall effect switches still
TYSM
Did they stop making the aluminum cases for the 60HE?
They are still being made, in fact they are all currently in stock as well 
I don’t see them on the website
its in #🪛│modding_faq for future reference
Thank you it wasn’t popping up on my phone
The lack of stem wobble on Raws is actually insane compared to reg. Jades
I wasn't sure it would make that much of a difference, but they feel a lot more stable overall imo
UwU & 60HE+ down, 2HE to go
yeah they feel so much nicer to type on
and in a gaming keyboard I find stem wobble really bothers me if it's really noticeable anyway
yeah raws are super nice
I need more plates for the frog to fully grasp the sound
can someone give me a build that would be compact, fast, and not plastic case?
colors can be either black or white
what does fast mean
fast keyboard ?
ya
?
no like genuinely wdym
magnetic switches have a very fast reaction time
theirs also something called rapid trigger
OHHH SHOOT
pretend i was never here
im talking in the wrong server 
I don't think it's going to make it today boys. 10pm here lol
I guess there is still 2 hours left until end of day 😁
venom pcb?
Ja
nice, you're going to build it in your frog?
Yeah, will probably do the purple one since I'm pretty happy with the green one currently
any way to use rgb effects and taychon mode simutaneously?
Nope you just get static rgb with tachyon turned on
I was able to override with Signal RGB and use those effects while in tachyon mode
at this point tachyon is probably isnt doing anything, if the whole purpose of it is to disable rgb effects and reduce brightes to allow for less latency
It supposedly makes more of a difference on the 2he
tachyon is to remove rgb effects
Does anyone know if there is any good 4mm travel HE switches right now?
I heard that the Geon HE Raptors were decent
But, I was wondering if there is anything else I should look out for.
I still get the true 8k polling though right
Tachyon mode lets you have 8K scanning as well. Without it, you can still have 8K polling, but scanning rate would be lower I believe.
and you need both
Right ok
Ty
I need da rgb (frost case goes hard with it)
i never turn on tachyon mode too
I always use static RGB, so for me it is a no-brainer 😛
But I doubt anyone would really notice it anyway. So if you really want them RGB effects, then just go for it.
Raptor + lekker v1.0 stem
Not sure about lekker v1.5
@cold bloom i have some problems with salvation case
top left and bottom right sounds very weird
What is the difference between scanning and polling
Scanning is the board scanning for new inputs. Polling is transmitting new inputs to the computer. (Atleaset, that's what I thought it was) 😛
What are good he switches for an deap poppy sound?
If you mean poppy/marbly, there are none yet who managed to get into that sound profile.
Sadge, but thanks though
yeah I am waiting for those as well + tactiles 😛
I was guessing that too, but polling would cover that. Though I think wooting is one of the only company that advertises scanning rates?
Tactile HE 
Glorious made some tactile and clicks he switch
tbh im curious for a tactile HE switch
not clicky tho cause it would interfere more with rapid trigger and stuff
I will try somehow do it when I get my 80he (project thock and pop) 💀
Is it possible
why not? they do exist, just from manufacturers with less quality I guess
outemu have brown and blue HE switches
Fairs
oh
I thought they were kailh made
might be outemu ig
Can’t you just somehow make geon raw poppy
I'll watch with great intrest
they have some very similar renders to kailh
so prob made by them
depending on polarity of them the panda and raptor HEs might work in a wooting 
Sry that it sounds dumb, but I'm new to modding and I don't know what polarity means. can you explain, pls?
actually looks like outemu design lol
I'd pass
it's kailh, pretty sure of it
outemu had a similar thing once, but neither one invented that for tactility
no
they have a silenced and non silenced version
the one in that render is silenced
has both dampened up and downstroke
is any of these closed bottom?
nope
Anyone made jmax and raw sound comparison?
soon
someone compared them I think, but not in a full sound test, just a couple of keys
nvm
Lol waiting for the module tmr
Here?
yeah, someone recorded jade max next to raw or a jade, but keys sound differently in different spots so it wasn’t much help tbh
don’t remember that persons name
How should one make a sound comparison? I only have 4 geon tho haha
same spot
literally just replace the keys and do a/b
well I mean you can still compare the sound in hand, then individual switches on keyboard, but you get way better idea when comparing typing on a whole keyboard
^and yeah same spot is also better than next to each other
Gotcha
@stone flax apparently the springs that I ordered from geon are pingless and don't need lube, but I oil lubed them lol
cause I didnt know they were pingless on the korean store
yeah its been a thing he’s talked about since he unveiled them
down to the way the coils were made and the metal blend
but idk if its true
Noob q: what is ping here?
the springs making unwanted noises
So based on this, all he switches should be pingless then?
I mean ofc we want the switches to be pingless, no?
no, these are separate springs that pursue "pinglessness"
my jades were pinging like hell cause I didnt lube the springs initially
not sure if springs come prelubed in jade maxes, but you can just bag lube them with oil to be safer from spring ping
I will try to make a comparison between stock jade max springs and the springs from geon
Look like outemu yeah. But from video's they are really loose in the board and they don't have extruding feet. So stability when inserted is questionable.
I see i see
also the sound isn't the best I believe.
Let us know!
Requires a redesigned switch really.
yea I'd only want them for the tactility
Wooting should pioneer the next generation of HE keyboards by making a pcb and switch that is completely MX-like, just with magnets wink-wink
Outemu's aren't compatible with our boards. So I doubt these will be.
ping comes from spring coils smacking or returning from a press and making a metallic sound, crunch comes from the coils dont properly compress which leads to both a crunching feeling and sound
what
This is one of the outcomes
Which is common
? One of?
ye
I thought ping is like those feelings on rusty coils haha
crunch
Crunching
😮
this isnt an opinion piece
ping is ping and crunch is crunch
Ye
tbh with these pingless springs the only thing that I feel pinging is the aluminum plate lol
did u leave any dry
there are some left cause they come in 110pcs packs
But sometimes u get a mixture of both
So its dependent
and I still have 42.5 and 52.5g unopened
? Never said that doesn’t happen
just those two things occur
I never said u did
You just said the difference but i just said there are many situations but theyre dependent
Thats what i meant
oh yea obv
love the blue!
ty 😄
What would u suggest
I dunno. I am just a video guy, I have barely any knowledge of how it all works 😛
Anyone else can recommend
Make ur own mold
redesign the whole thing on your own
make 1 proto base it off of HE and Mx switches and understand why leaf switches are a thing as well as HE
If not redesign the housing but keep the stem and see if u can make it a thoc or whichever sound you like
Outemu recolors which cost $0.10 per/100K and sold for 70pcs/$90, Glorious makes Gateron pricing look sane.
You can use Outemu browns, its magnet is only strong enough to actuate until 2.7mm or so but they are usable.

What name?

Oh ok (am screwed)
not rlly just do 3D printing and make ur own
u cld literally 3D scan a HE switch thats compatible with wooting and work on its internals but u obv cant give it to anyone but only personal use
I don’t think my teacher will allow me 💀
- I don’t have a 3d printer
U cld go to a 3d printer shop and just do it LOL
I mma see if I can
Welp hf
What is this set?
OEM Dye-Sub PBT Keycap Set - Wheat Grey Full Set Nordic
Are the new glorious HE switches compatible with wooting?
thats not a windows key its wondis 😭

If they keycaps are not double shot PBT then I don’t want it
Are gateron jades pro worth upgrading from lekkers v1.5?
yea imo
why tf would u get glorious HE switches
Not getting them, just curious 👀 calm your TT 😂waiting for geon raw
welp dont think so
Ty, should have spotted that myself tbh
those new glorious switches might've been the worst sounding switches i've heard in a long time
probably for the best
first link when googling gmmk 3 he
Dont buy glorious got it
Yeah it's no secret that software is the worst part of a GMK board, the build quality is generally excellent. the software build quality.......not so much.
build quality?
barely anything is true doubleshot pbt
I had a previous gen TKL and it was built very sturdy, easily moddable and a pretty low pcb fault %
their switches and keycaps are ass
They are
Theyre just really bad
they dont play well with wooting boards
what build quality?
Never used their switches and swapped the keycaps day 1

What about wooting keycaps
Don’t ruin this for me
Tell me the truth


i can lie if u want
what about triple shot 
Where the double C*mshot PBT at
they have dogass quality metal and super overlubed stabs
most “””””double-shot pbt”””””” is either a blend of plastics involving pbt or has a different type of plastic for either the injection or outer mold
people do that for diff colored sublegends
I’m about to refund my shiet if so
i know jtk does it a lot
Example of tripleshot
render of jtk cyrillic
dang I need that actually
Then whats a true PBT double shot keycaps then…

I dunno. What did they say?
ah gotcha makes sense
What's an MJ
He said it’s not true PBT doubleshot
You

what the freak
👇
dont pin this on me
What isn't true PBT doubleshot?
What is? I am confused.
Wthhhh
The wooting keycaps
Our keycaps aren't real? Ruh roh.
which ones, cause there are different ones
The wooting double shot PBT keycaps
which ones tho
so your concern is what exactly
like whats the concern here, keycaps sometime use blends or abs as shot material cause its easier to work with
like wasnt this common knowledge
you're linking dye sub ones, they're not double shot
but there are double shot wooting keycaps

thats dyesub again
😭
😭😭

THIS IS NOT IT??
thats not double shot
Thats dyesub
dye sub is when keycaps are sublimated in paint
double shot is when the main part and the letters are made of different color plastic
they literally sell ones called double shot pbt
Send me the link bro
yeah lol why is he mixing it up
😭
the one that says double shot
So do you have dyesub or doubleshot
the concern is that this pbt isn't entirely pbt
i mean thats a given
do you want keycaps that shinethrough with rgb?
pure 100% anything is hard
i mean yeah
but sometimes these blends are just grossly mislabeling
ya ofc lmao
What about the order I just posted

you can technically email wooting and change it
I need me some gmk mtnu
What I’m ordering are not those you posted?
says dye sub in your keycaps
seeeee
This is my order
now that is pbt
Phew
one is white the other is black 
misunderstanding lmao
@sonic crystal okay okay wait
I think yours are these
https://wooting.io/product/wooting-double-shot-backlit-pbt-keycap-set-just-white?Language=ANSI+United+States&Color=Just+White
so you're good probably
cause the color is "just white"
Yea
as I can see in the order
blame mjj
yea I might order black blanks cause the existing sets seem not to my liking
I would order wob if they were in stock, they look nice
ooh
what have u thought for blacks
Blanks*
i still say its not trye
But thats okay
blends are a thing

keep in mind your letters will be shinethrough, so you can change their color with rgb
That’s what I want shine throughs
Apparently it’s very tough to make true PBT keycaps due to the molding procedure so many space bars aren’t true PBT
wob are so sexy though
legends look good
@stone flax better or
That looks kool
Same theme but totally different from mines ;-;
My key caps are arriving tomorrow 
Do you know Japanese?
Nope

Too expensive
I’ve been tempted tho lol
I hadn’t seen WoB MTNU yet. That is clean
I think you have seen it lol
iirc I posted a pic some time ago and you said it looked good
but yeah looks nice, but sold out everywhere
I don’t play Val but snappy tappy
looks good
does anyone use stickers to label their media keys?
Color coded them with the RBG
i just rmb them
I really liked the rubber stickers that my tesoro gram spectrum used back in the day for the media key labels but idk where to get them :///
google is useless
and I use media keys so rarely that I forget them 😭
Best sets to fit the retro thematic to go with PCR Ghost? Going for the Og gameboyish look?
does it impact my performance if i swap out my lekker l60 switches on my wooting 60he+ with the sticky rice hall effect switches
???


keycap suggestions for 60he?
Keycaps are preference
yeah, but what are some cool keycap sets that feel nice? i dont want to buy some clone set on amazon
Lock your keyboard in attack position with the officially licensed Star Wars X-Wing SA Keycap set! These keycaps feature colors, accents, and symbols inspired by the legendary X-Wings of the rebel alliance. From dash indicators to battle damage, these help you stay on target as you explore the galaxy.
that costs more then the 60he
why does it even cost that much?
I’ve no idea
https://novelkeys.com/collections/keycaps/products/kam-superuser I think this set looks good
Sold out, but alphas
yeah
thats kinda sad
I dont really buy keycaps often, why do they not sell complete sets?
About to put a GMK set on my 80he - is there a way to take only the faceplate off with the zinc alloy shell?
yes wooting has a guide
but you dont have to tho
on yt btw
No, you have to, unfortunately. any keypuller makes such hard contact with the sides that it's real easy to damage/scar the paint

check pinned on the 80he channel
tyt
@harsh dove looks like the form is open again
Take a look and see if you find a GMK set that tickles your fancy
hello friends, yall got any he60 tips to lessen my 500cad total?
What do you mean
like should i get the module for upgraded switches or just get stock
stock is the cheapest
Do I go for the Jade Switches, or do I wait until October to get my Jade Pros?
What are you guys' thoughts on the wooting switches, what are everyone's favorite?
Geon raw he or lekker v2 😎
Okay I like those options
What is the diff between 40.0gf, 50.0gf, 60.0gf?
how much force it takes to bottom out
How much force you need to press it
So less force the better?
Okay so the 50 would be a happy medium?
Less force is faster but less control
Less force = bunch of typo imo
Fun for gaming rhough
i prefer 40 grams over the stock 60 on lekkers
I feel like the ones I have now that are stock take too much force.
type for a longer period of time without as much fatigue
Whats the difference between l45 and l60?
45 grams vs 60 grams to fully press the key down
Ohh, thanks boss
Should I just buy 70 switches or do I need more than that?
what keyboard are you buying?
For the 60he
Okay I just wanted to make sure.
Damn, jade sounds amazing
they ight imo. my partner has them so I am going for something different.
Can i get aftermarket switches for wooting? New to the brand and im now sure whether my past switches will work with the board
yeah you can
heres a list of them
Raw he is the way forward
Bless you good sir
Let it light your path with amazing sound and one of the tightest stem wobbles
Do you have a sounds test for the raw he?
Lekker sou ds a little bit too pingy for me, atleast the stock i heard
Time for custom switches! I tested the Geon RAW HE, Gateron Jade, GUGU Black Knight, and our very own Lekker V2 to compare their sound profiles. All of these switches are compatible with both the 60HE and 80HE.
Lekker V2 L45 https://wooting.io/product/lekker-switch-l45-v2?Size=70+pack
Lekker V2 L60 https://wooting.io/product/lekker-switch-l60-v...
Dont go off of online sound tests though. They are notoriously inaccurate
Kdbfans putting geon raw he on their Aliexpress store makes it real cheap for a lot of folks now too
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↜ TIMESTAMPS ↝
[start] - [section title]
0:00 - Intro
0:42 - The Board
0:56 - Comhar Showcase
2:07 - Comhar Sound Test
2:25 - Tribesigns Sound Test
2:36 - Tho...
Perfect for expanding the cult
yeah, the sound recording varies so much depending on where the phone is, the surface and whatnot,
i have 4 seperate videos and they all sound different but i find this one to sound the closest
I can't even reach Aliexpress
May lord geon be blessed
It would be kinda funny if Geon randomly popped into this discord and saw how many "Praise Geon and all he touches" messages there are
Sorry I prefer jades sound
Thats ok too
Jade Cult is more exclusive 
Anyone have some good picks for some white keycaps that produce more light? pref is cherry profile
need an 800 credit score to join
This does a pretty good job of hearing the difference betwen the Jades and Magnetos since someone asked yesterday https://youtu.be/bMZ8B9cMejg?si=WDl7DVaIC-SdsSf-&t=257
This is the best gaming keyboard out there.
@Wooting
Intro 0:00
What's New? 0:11
How to buy 0:29
Unboxing 0:40
Zinc Case Design 1:30
80HE Module 1:46
White Wooting Keycaps 2:18
Full Assembly Guide 2:26
Finished Looks 3:55
Jades VS Lekker V2 VS Magneto 4:15
Wobble Test 4:55
Final Build Sound Test 5:05
Wootility V5 5:45
SOCD Demo 6:1...
wdym?
PBTFans Xray
I’ll my jades max soon to see if they are better than normal jades
In term of price/quality geon is still far ahead
I think what you're looking for are backlit key caps
Fellow raver 
geon is still far ahead
I want to be able to see more light coming through the keycap. Instead of most of the light coming from between the keys... If that even makes sense.
In terms of closeness to gods touch geon is also far ahead. Glory to geon and all that he touches!
so you want transparent keycaps..?
who?
yes
I like those
unfortunately xrays are out of stock everywhere
Check Glorious Polychroma keycaps, and ranked.gg pom keycaps
Mahjong sound is all I want
And if jades are too expensive, just by WS dash
I like the glorious ones.
Time to spend money...
bonus points if you have 3% cash back on online purchases 
Jades and Dashes are anywhere from $50-70
40 or 50 g geon raws? I have the L v1 60g - like em but after playing for a long time my fingers kind of get tired
is 50 the sweet spot, any input?
no unforced errors by resting your fingers on the key?
only sometimes but its only when im watching youtube or something
hav 0.5 actuation on my FPS profile
when im playing, im very mindful about where i rest
40g is too light for me
I prefer 50g even though I don’t get accidental inputs on 40g
the only keys i had to change were space and shift
this is my profile
Do you mind sharing?
Just get some 80g springs and train them up. Buff up them finger muscles
my 60he sounds good overall, but the spacebar sounds kinda bad, what's a good mod I can do to make it sound better?
Just ordered 50g geon raw
what about it u dont like?
Blessings upon you fellow geonite
the rattle
everything sounds so smooth except for the spacebar
Relubing the stabs with better lube job
ok
lube
are omnipoints 45g bottom out? if so for geons pingless springs the 42.5g would be the closest in feel no?
@harsh dove these are the stabs from Geon. Not Geon branded but are ones I've not used before. Not willing to put the "no tuning required" part to the test so going to lube them up real quick. They aren't long pole but stated to work great with RAW's
how much did those cost?
Interesting, yeah let me know how you like them
Will the wooting 60he 2 have the ability to make the leds white instead of them being blue
Are those the V2?
@stray tiger which layout did you go with on venom60? and which plate material?
Will do. ALso it looks like the VenomHE plates will work with the Wooting PCB (still need standoff kit) if you order the 6.25u plate. The 7u plate isn't a universal plate.
7u w/ FR4 and Aluminum
cool, I initially got alu but then I thought I already have alu that came with the frog and will order fr4 tomorrow 😄
will also throw in some extra gmk black snail kits
I would have ordered the 6.25u plate if I had taken the time to see if it was universal or not. That way I could have used it with a 60HE board and done some side by side
yeah I thought the plate standoff points were the same, but was more interested in the 7u layout
7u Supremacy
yeah confirmed they are the same
#🔧│keyboard_modding message I love this one, from korean store reviews
Yeah that's nice
I do need a pcb for my spare tofu now 👀
I've got Alu plates from both but for my Frog it's from Hype
i was wondering cuz my alu plate from sm is taking longer than i thought
ik it said lead time was 2-4 weeks
but its been over a month and it hasnt even shipped
Have you tried contacting them?
no not yet
cuz i didnt know if this was normal or not
and i didnt want to be that type of customer
Try just sending them an email and asking about the status of your order
Are those the ones Durock “copied” the design of?
Yes
Oh neat
@stray tiger if you happen to have calipers on hand, please measure their width.
👍
im new to custom keyboards ive got jades and tape modded the pcb and the sounds from the number row is cleaner and more clacky then the asd row any idea why ?
is it how tight ive done the screws or ?
especially near the top right of the keyboard its the most cleanest and im guessing its the least tight on the screws
so it would be that?
for RAW is there any difference with 40, 50, and 60? I been suggested to get the 50
just how light the press of the switch is @quiet jewel
Only weight difference
if you like the weight of your old keyboard i would check the weight on that and try to buy the same weight
but its just preference
yes
Aka
Goat stabs
🐐
Show me which width you want measured (just external housing?). Of course I have calipers!
just external, yes.
of the housing.
Peak HE springs just dropped https://divinikey.com/products/geon-pingless-he-compatible-springs
Geon HE Compatible Springs are pingless springs that are made of a non-magnetic material in order to not conflict with the Hall sensor. Geon HE Compatible Springs Feature: 110(+5) springs included in each pack Made of non-magnetic material that does not conflict with the Hall sensor Characterized by zero ping even with
from no other than our glorious king geon
divinikey listing is bigggg

im actually so pissed these couldnt be relased a day earlier
@tawdry tree I didnt calibrate them so it may be off .01-.03
i wouldve gotten them when i was paying for my fr4 plate
i would need to pay shipping again
me having them for more than a week at this point
yaaa
id never bother with non us vendors tho
Miss me with that 300 dollars in shipping

lmao true
28 from geonworks 💀
6.73 is on the wide side but could be fine. I’ll prob get them at well.
I might go with 50 gf cause I use cherry mx browns and ttc speed silver
Also, for things that are square, the flat edges of the jaws are often more accurate.
👍
Mine are accurate to the end. I typically keep them calibrated as well, and I wouldnt surprised if Ive been using calipers since you were in diapers.
I don’t mean accuracy as in the accuracy of the calipers. The tips are sharp and especially for softer materials, it’ll bite into the material slightly. It can be twisted without you knowing.
Hence that’s what the flat edges are for
😊
If youre squeezing hard enough to bite into the plastic, you are impacting the measurement
i just bought off divinikey a few days ago lmao same boat
No. That’s what happens.
Just by the calipers holding the housing.
I’m serious though.
The 10 switches I’ve done sound way better than the stock ones
Sound test coming soon
Like 1-2h
Dont rush it
Of course, and they are harder not to overlube compared to normal jades
I love my youngest lol
that sounds like a lovely dinner, I am jealous
i second this
So the switches I am ordering should I just learn how to lube them before installing them?
which switches are these
those are jade maxes
Yes
arent they like hella lubed and just need the springs to be lubed?
Overpriced rgb-friendly plastic box
There, you can get calipers to read anything you want of course.
For normal jades you don’t have to do this the stock lube is ok
Raw are ok too but I’m not sure 100%
you should try them out stock and see if you like them
hand lubing will always be better if you do it right
i think pierre mentioned only the pros were heavily lubed but that for the maxes the lube job was lacking
Yes you can, need to use accurate pressure. Stop trolling
Are you serious?
Also, if your calipers are that off from tip to mid, get new ones
I don’t have the pros so idk, but the normal jades are ok and the jades max are not well lubed
i was waiting for the maxes but im glad i chose raws in the end
okay
just not a good look with the cost
You do not measure something that is square with the tip of the calipers as the piece you’re measuring won’t be straight.
me too
This is pretty freaking known
wooo geon raw he 50g switches from divinikey is back in stock
naisu
I could tell you a number of ways youre still wrong but I'll let AI do it:
Calipers Measurement Tip vs Jaws
When using calipers, it’s essential to understand the distinction between measuring with the tip and the middle of the jaws. This clarification is crucial for accurate measurements.
Tip of Jaws:
The tip of the jaws is designed for measuring small, precise dimensions, such as internal diameters or depths.
When measuring with the tip, ensure the caliper is properly seated and the jaws are fully closed.
The tip measurement is typically more accurate for small features due to its finer resolution.
However, the tip may not be suitable for larger or thicker objects, as it may not provide a stable or secure grip.
Middle of Jaws:
The middle of the jaws is designed for measuring larger, more substantial objects, such as external diameters or widths.
When measuring with the middle of the jaws, ensure the caliper is properly seated and the jaws are fully closed.
The middle of the jaws provides a more stable and secure grip, making it suitable for larger or thicker objects.
However, the middle of the jaws may not offer the same level of precision as the tip for small features.
Quality control failed. No screw insert on one leg
did geon mention if he would be releasing longer springs for he? or just the 15mm
I feel like AI should integrate into discord for times like this
no
time to order then
I’m not wrong. My uncle taught me about and gave me calipers when I was younger.
You can see that when you “measure” something flat with the tip of the jaws, it won’t be straight right away. You can literally see it the moment you measure like that.
Covince AI or convince yourself 
I’m not forcing you to measure correctly, I’m just telling you.
You know I’m right brother.
Just pointing something out, no harm to you.
The interwebs disagrees with you and your uncle. It is what it is.
Half the keyboard lubed
lol your calipers are definitely busted if this is the measurement you're getting
Hi Mark, that’s not the measurement I’m getting, that’s the closing of the jaws on the plastic container. It’s twisted because the tips of the jaws don’t straighten out square objects. This is something you notice right away when using calipers.
Unless the square object is very slippery and the sharp jaws don’t grip the surface.
I have just as little interest in arguing about it with you as Thockfather does, I'm just stating that your pictures clearly demonstrate that your calipers are not measuring accurately
this is how i measure things
they are razor sharp so the measurements are nice and accurate
I am showing what happens, that is an example not the measurement, my god.
I am giving Thock a tip, on how to use them correctly. That’s it.
Nothing to argue about.
Crazy what’s happening here.
I assume you can squish the housings a bit when you measure cause they can be soft, so gotta be careful
yippeee
have u tried the maxes stock?
It’s simpler than that
No, because when I spend so much on switches I want them to be perfect, and because the lubing job from gateron isn’t great
true
This is what happens. @stray tiger @glossy pagoda
It’s crazy how this is not simple to understand.
I've been planning to mod a 60HE+ module for a while now and recently the Holy60 case popped up on my radar. Is there anything I should know about plate compatibility? I was initially considering a Tofu60 redux with the carbon fiber plate from kbdfans but I'm not sure if there'd be a compatibility issue if I used the plate in another case
It’s so simple.
This is only valid if your jaws are not properly seated to the stem, which means your calipers are worn and inaccurate
This really is problematic.
Thats some pointy calipers!
Have a nice day Mark.

Im still not following. Can you draw me some more pictures please?
i mean the knife tips on the external jaws arent really meant for measuring diameters themselves. they are for hole distances
holy, someone understands how to use calipers.
Childish.
id argue how much variance you really get though and how much it matters in the scheme of things when measuring keyboard stuff
it’s little of course, but you have the flat jaws for a reason.
depending on how rough the material is and how the person measuring is verifying how straight the piece is, it can be much.
Are you saying the middle of the jaws is for measuring averages and the ends are for accuracy? If so, AI agrees with you!
I was taught that it should have the slightest perceptible drag when measuring an object/standard
uh no the middle is for accurate diameters
Correct
thank you.
I am actually tilted, good night people.

there is entire calipers with just flat jaws since they arent meant to measure any hole distances and just diameters/dimensions
Makes sense!
the calipers incident
although you could always run into people who use the depth gauge for diamters/dimensions
wonder what keycaps you're gonna install
also if anyone knows pls tell me what the ends of these are for cause i never understood them
That space bar cut out section is smeggsy ngl
inside measurements I would think
oh duh
yeah it also shouldnt bend like some other plate mount plates
when you install the spacebar switch
(▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)ᴵ ˢᵉᵉ
Idk much about calipres but I found this on mitutoyas manual for use
anyone know where I could get keycaps similar to this one
they make nice stuff
Yes exactly. Using appropriate force is essential when measuring near the end. If you're denting up the plastic, you're going way too hard.
It is how you use calipers. The right way. I have absolutely no words for what happened right now, and Thock’s behavior.
i think it was mainly about the images below it
google image search and use that picture
What?
caliper beef is nuts 
hey this is serious business
when I do my next build, i'm going to cause an argument so the build process feels faster
jk ofc
I'm getting a custom pp plate from hype keyboards and it's asking me if I want to include either a frog mini or other option for 5$ more, can anyone help? I am using the pp plate with a wooting 60he+ build
Not beef, I point out a simple fact. He goes off, joking about it and taunting (and blocking me).
Absolutely no words.
just standard plate for tray mount cases
😂😂
i...
i scared

agree with thockfather tho
Granted Ive temporarily blocked Aligner because he started DMing me, I do feel like since he took the time to create some drawings I owe him the same courtesy.
Thank you! Do I need to include a stock plate file?
right pressure is always needed
yep doesnt matter where you measure if the pressure is off
I told you that I didn’t find this situation funny.
that just proves his point though
out of all external measurements shown there... theres only 1 thats done wrong really
which is the small humanoid shape
every other one uses the flat side of the jaws for alignment
I did have NicePBT Sugarplum on here so Ill start with that and then try a GMK set
What’s that
also im joking about the beef thing ofc
The big difference is that this will be going into a salvation case and it's a slightly different mounting system
obv just a difference in practices
i mean in a machine shop this difference in practices could get you fired over time if you work with tight enough tolerances
all good
the thick size is more forgiving
no its more accurate
I am so confused rn
ya that
Someone pls explain
it reduces human error
I never meant it as “Oh this will cause so much inaccuracy, your measurements are useless.” Just that it’s not the “correct” way to do it and that there’s a better and simpler way!
Ok going RAW 60's for the build. Keeping them stock
he makes these plates specifically for 60he, no need for a custom plate if you're using the standard case, or smth like tofu redux
Using the salvation (:
yippee!
What tadpoles are you using?
salvation is like a tray mount in terms of plates pretty sure
might ask @cold bloom
yes but just saying its a difference in practice isnt really smth id support. i already stated it probably doesnt matter in the scenarios as used here.
Sure thing. Thank you!😊
50a
bettt
I got 50as on the way too
it definitely might not but it can. With the flat edges, you eliminate the possibility for inaccuracies due to the piece not being aligned entirely. Hence that’s what I was taught.
So it will be just a
frog mini
venom pcb
fr4 plate
50a
raw's 60g stock
60g stock, no foams, no force break. Trying to keep it a stock experience but I did lube the stabs since they werent assembled
👍
are you using a frog mini or other option

salvation
then its a nah for this guy
Actually good night now everyone.
Uhhh is it a good time to do my day 4 modding list or no
ok
did u change things from day 3
ah the times of theory crafting your build thinking it will be marbly creamy poppy and dreamy

The death wish list
💀
Theory crafting is probably the worst thing to do when you don’t even have the keyboard
Btw just got my geon raws wooo
Mods should be done to solve a problem or change something you don't like. Planning to do it all in advance is bad juju
I mean it's still fun
jesus CHRIST the maxes are crazy
holy saturation
Gotta put xray on them
ur telling me this foam config and switches and ceramic keycaps wont make my keyboard that hasnt even shipped yet sound like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvsNyOhYMkQ
Before anything else, I wanna just thank you all for the massive support this channel has been getting! You guys have been great and I thank God for all your guys' love for the work on this channel. At the moment, we've just surpassed 400 subs, which is crazy! Now I wanna start shooting for 1k subs, so that I can have more access to YouTube's Cr...

Removed the o rings part cuz realised how will the actuation will kill my life and told my teacher to try help me 3d print a whole replica of a HE switch (planning to remake housing)
It will 100% sound like that if you just copy those exact steps
So I might somehow with a miracle create a marbly HE switch….
thank you i will not marbly thock in heaven
cant wait for the day someone makes "heavenly" a keyboard buzzword
the day we reach full lack of meaning
Holy that’s good
.......
i was being sarcastic
this video is heavily sound edited
RAWS have a heavenly thocc 

💀
dream+cream

This rgb is no comment compared to other switches
cuz if it is i should tell you that all sounds tests are a lie but lil shoosh is literally incriminating perjury levels of lying
True ig
Wooting RGB already is super extra, the maxes are a diff breed fr
Heavenly thoccc with dreamy cream like sound
squiglish
Thack 
Clack 
Thocky clack
You asked for buzzwords, not if they make sense 
Dreamy
The 60HE had a cream-like clack, with a beautiful thock at the bottom-out. It was perfect.
hipyo YT short script
Even writing that made me pissed off
If only I can somehow use the knowledge of describing keyboards into my English lessons
Would have got the best grades ever
"Cock"
💀💀💀

I wonder who said that
out of all the letters they remove, "L"
It was either Thack or Clock
I chose Thack cus it was closest to Thockson which I had my name as
I want Hipyo to review the new glorious keyboard, if he does and its not more critical than the 80HE review he loses his keeb cred
I think outemu clickies are the best if you're going for that signature cock sound
watch he finna promote that shit like its the best keyboard ever 😂
Im going to start using dreamy lol
bro I'd DIE.. that keyboard sounds like hot ass
those switches are CHALKED
lmfaooooooooooo
honestly i'd be dying laughing and cringing
Like I heard them for the first time and my body recoiled
at this point i cant be mad
toes curling in
Anyone know good sites to get cables in UK?
unironically
which he switches are the most heavenly?

GEON RAW HE
"Glory to geon and all that he touches!"
Keycaps on
with them pingless heavenful springs
that is crazy
have u tried any of them unlubed
i did i did!!
no but I still have like 40 of them unlubed

Jade Max + Lazurite is gonna be a banger color combo
can u try one of them
and compare to one oiled
Jades max lubed
i actually wanna see stock performance
volume boost 1000%
I STILL CANT HEAR ITTTTTTTTTT
so you wanna see full stock geon raws or the pingless spring unlubed
omg the sound quality is horrible sorry
all g 
dreamy
I'll do one with the phone in my hand
you need to put your bushy foxtail microphone in front of your keyboard for full gateron immersion
lubed spring vs stock spring
Wait guys uhhh I just realised now I got the geon raws
How do I cancel only the l45 switch pack on my order

better than my normal jades (handlubed too)
I swear lubing switches remove 10% of its stock sound
okay I will do a comparison in one spot
who knew the lubed maxes were the silent switch all along 😅
but god that rgb is waaaaaayyyyyyyyy better than on other switches
French name so glad you were French sounding
what is the most french sounding switch
Guys help
thanks g
Idk how to refund the l45
Open a support ticket in the woot hub
Ok
I also got my OG jade pack refunded this morning, W Wooting support
Wait actually to the think of it I mma get the l45s too
@calm pulsar FR4 has got the clack for sure
For science (plus they were like 12 usd anyways)
if they are v2s might keep them for an open bottom option plus some frankenswitching if it comes to that
damnn it's like the whole room is echoing
Thats with PBT, need to pull out the normal caps as I had stepped caps on there before. Will try with some GMK too
I wonder what alu does then
I think @harsh dove tested RAW's with alum on frog mini earlier this week
Geon raws + l45 v2s 💀

