🔧│keyboard_modding

[tawdry tree]

Where are you from?

[serene trail]

India

[dire delta]

Just get any generic keycaps set from aliexpress

If you go ANSI 60%

[tawdry tree]

With $100 budget he can get good caps

[dire delta]

Yep

[tawdry tree]

Check through PBTFans’ stuff, see if anything speaks to you.

[serene trail]

i see i would definately check both websites

[dire delta]

SW Keycaps, MonoKei, PBTFans, ePBT, GMK, Drop DCS

So many options

[serene trail]

man I am lost \

[dire delta]

Nk Keycaps like notion and Taro are also nice PBT options

I personally prefer ABS tho

[serene trail]

so i saw this set i kinda like this astetic is this compatible with 60e?
https://amzn.in/d/2vdlQzx

[tawdry tree]

Keycaps that fit MX stems are compatible with Wooting. Most sets support ANSI and ISO layouts, you probably have ANSI.

[dire delta]

Yes

[serene trail]

i understood like half of what you said

[tawdry tree]

I have no clue if ANSI or ISO is used in India

[serene trail]

aa I have ANSI

idk if that is indian norm but i bought ansi

[tawdry tree]

Then the keycap set you sent is compatible.

[serene trail]

w will be getting that set if possible

any other webistes where i can look for custom keycaps??

[tawdry tree]

https://swagkeys.com/collections/keycaps

Shipping probably isn’t that expensive to India

Same with KBDFans

^

[serene trail]

yeah i think will be going along side the set i saw from amazon these website might have great keycap quality but they are not the asthetic i am looking for

thanks for the helpo guys

[tawdry tree]

Yw!

[tender anchor]

can the alumaze case 60he sound thock?

[cyan zodiac]

add pe foam

and you can make any board thoc

[tender anchor]

I saw that the case comes with the foam for the base and then foam for the plate

One is always needed, the second one is a choice

if I add both, would it be thoc?

[somber roost]

xrays are here

[sweet oak]

[left depot]

[jagged flame]

Are there any custom aluminium cases on the market for the 2he?

[hard flower]

I wish

[jagged flame]

Bummer

Such a stupid marketplace, no idea how the trend picked up for all these stunted keyboards.

[stone flax]

🤐

[fluid ravine]

What took you so long

[somber roost]

waiting for the 80he

[fluid ravine]

well better get it soon
Im waiting..

Lemme guess white zinc?

[somber roost]

yep. also switching to ansi so i can actually buy keycaps lol

[fluid ravine]

HAHA

But you already bought key caps

[somber roost]

my first ever set outside of whatever comes with the keyboard

[fluid ravine]

Yipee

What switches u doin

[somber roost]

i want to try raw he switches, but going to try the lekker v2s first since they come with the board

if v2s are good enough ill just use them

[fluid ravine]

(＾_＾) oki

[glacial wind]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bXNSVqLBQSE - gateron jade pro soundtest

so no sound improvement then

guess not many people saw this video since it was on their shorts page

seems like it really is just jades with minor update

[languid forge]

HUGE

anyways

does anyone have a good reference photo for how much polyfill I should be putting on the bottom of my case?

[jagged flame]

Did they ever say why the 80he is not a pure TKL format and they decided to.go with this unconventional layout?

[glacial wind]

many times. https://youtu.be/2UjTBVYUnbk?si=zOa5rYc5IRgWX02D&t=283

here's timestamp to one of the times

[languid forge]

Sorry for bad angle

Is this a good amount of polyfill?

[lusty nova]

awesome, so instead of following some standard, they made another one.. neat XD

[glacial wind]

well there wasn't a standard is the thing

60% is a unique world where one standard was widely spread. Beyond that the 75/tkl standards aren't really standardized and a lot of brands use different mounting so you can't case swap even in the same format

[loud gull]

Seem a bit louder then the Geon's hm? Need a side by side comparison

[glacial wind]

yeah really need a side by side to really tell if it's just mic placement or what

from best I can tell it seems to sound exactly same as regular jades still

[loud gull]

I do believe housing a bit tighter like geons, so it sounds a bit less chattery

Someone of our team testing them on location of an event, and said it was getting pretty similar

So I am curious to test them

[jagged flame]

Its actually awful, to the point where i will keep my money for something else. Was in the market for this exact thing a gaming tkl. But the format is a total flop for me, the dev guy in the video sounds so smug for someone commiting such design atrocities

[glacial wind]

design atrocities is a little extreme but I guess peoples tastes are different

maybe look towards a geon venom tkl or similar, but you'll need to assemble and pay a tad more all up for it

[grizzled path]

Smugsander huh

[jagged flame]

Thank you, i will definitely check it out

[jagged flame]

I'm shocked this thing made them light of day like that honestly from such a competent company who up to now were in touch with the customer base. Unless they are pulling an Apple move wanting to lock people in a proprietary format to cash in on aftersales

[glacial wind]

that's not how it works. If you want the real reason it's that there isn't a standardized format for tkl that's widespread enough to easily case swap

for example the geon tkl I recommend requires geon to make and sell 6 different plates for the 6 cases he chose to support and you can't swap it into another case unless you custom make your own compatible plate

that's while using the absolute most standardized tkl format (h87)

[jagged flame]

Of course, but the main goal is what's on the outside, i.e. the button layout. I get that inside it may be a bit different but I mostly care about whats on top

[lusty nova]

I agree with your sentiment. I don't think I'd use a unique customized one of a kind keyboard for 8k polling when literally everything else uses a specific standard on where keys are laid out. The idea that making it a tiny bit smaller is revolutionary doesn't really justify it.

[glacial wind]

yes and that's fine - but the stuff about cashing in on aftersales comes off as ignorant and a bit silly

you can not like the format and prefer tkl/75 or whatever else, but it has nothing to do with trying to lock in proprietary formats or cashing in

[jagged flame]

Perhaps. I don't claim to know why they did it. I dont understand what the thought process would have been to come up with such a thing

[jagged flame]

1cm to be more exact

[glacial wind]

i mean it's simple isn't it? They just wanted arrows and f row without sacrificing right shift length while being as small as possible for tilt keyboard users

Not that I agree with the format choice being better than just sacrificing the right shift to make a 75%, but i can at least understand how they got there

[marsh saffron]

60he layout best

[glacial wind]

the format isn't actually that crazy or new. other keyboards have some similar in the past

[dire delta]

60he layout definitely not the best

[marsh saffron]

Ew

[glacial wind]

for example this is the old ducky x varmillo maya pro, which is basically same format but no f 13 row

[dire delta]

Where Tsangan bottom row

Split backspace

Stepped caps

[languid forge]

hello

[dire delta]

Short Right Shift

[jagged flame]

Sure. But is shaving off 1cm worth straying away from a format which lots of people buy, like the tkl? A pure tlk would have been the perfect product

[glacial wind]

i mean - that's your opinion. I don't love or hate the format personally

some people like tkl, some prefer 75%. Not everyone wants a tkl

[jagged flame]

60 is a massive compromise.

[marsh saffron]

With wootility, agree to disagree

[ionic breach]

the 77.5% is the perfect layout for me

[languid forge]

HELP: do you put in your clip in stabalizers on top from the PC PLATE?

[ionic breach]

so i cant say shit

[jagged flame]

Of course. I get theres a market for 75 and theres a market for TKL. This product satisfies neither customer. Again. My opiniom strictly.

[dire delta]

It isn't

It's preference

[glacial wind]

yeah you can say that but they did break literal records with the presale

[dire delta]

clip in stabilizer have to be assembled bevor you put on the plate

just like screw ins

[languid forge]

i need video of someone doing this\

i cant find it

im very confused

[glacial wind]

so while i personally would have preferred a different format (mode 75% format), it's hard to say that many people care about the format when it became the literal most sold keyboard presale in history

[languid forge]

bevor?

[dire delta]

before*

😅

[languid forge]

so I put on the clip on stabalizers on the PCB them I put my poron foam over and then the PC plate?

[glacial wind]

realistically I think a large portion of the keyboard buying audience does not care about the format beyond it having arrow keys and an f row.

[languid forge]

@dire delta

[dire delta]

correct

[paper bloom]

U gotta do it before u

[jagged flame]

Gamers suffer too much from the "plz take my money syndrome".

[languid forge]

okok

[paper bloom]

Install the plate

Cuz the playes clearence

🗿

[languid forge]

PCB

[glacial wind]

this comes off super elitist just because you don't like the format.

[paper bloom]

Na put it on top

[marsh saffron]

^

[paper bloom]

But make sure

Ur rod goes in

[languid forge]

install it on the PCB?

[marsh saffron]

Surely nobody can just like the middle point between both layouts

[dire delta]

https://youtu.be/OcK_8qf-UP8

It's easy

[glacial wind]

realistically people online overly forget that the average joe does not care about keyboard formats or even know much about it. They probably look at it and think "oh f row and arrows with wooting software? ok I order"

[dire delta]

Toothpick mod btw is really good on the spacebar and backspace of the wooting

[paper bloom]

Ye

Pcb first

B4 plate

[glacial wind]

not everyone is die hard online folk fighting the good fight for their keyboard format

[jagged flame]

True that

[paper bloom]

Im hoping for a 65% LOOL

Cuz of the new cases

[loud gull]

Most of the eSports players reaching out to us are pretty happy with the layout, but like @glacial wind said they just care about the same tech but now with f-row and arrow keys.

And there are a lot of more options coming in hall effect land, so we aren't the only option thankfuly.

[dire delta]

Honestly I like the 75% implementation of the 80HE. I personally won't get it, since im inot 60% boards but it is unique

Also you got some space for custom engravings

[languid forge]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/j_5i1VyFACc

this video it looks like it over the PC plate?

[dire delta]

These are plate mount stabs

Not snap in

[languid forge]

ahh

okok

I got clip ins

I just need a video of someone doing clip ins

[jagged flame]

My problem is as a programmer missing 2 navigation keys vs TKL is a big issue. very limiting in using it for both gaming and coding

[languid forge]

hold on

[loud gull]

Bought a custom keyboard also with this layout (jris75). I also kinda like this.

[dire delta]

🧢 Use layers

:)

Sorry I had to be mean

[glacial wind]

see i knew sander was the best wooting employee. Likes the mode sonnet format. Snowboards. Uses geon raw he switches

[calm pulsar]

you can configure arrow keys on press and mods on hold

[jagged flame]

Yeah 20 years of coding habits ...

[calm pulsar]

here's my arrow keys, and I don't have to press Fn to activate them

[dire delta]

Made the switch from ISO to ANSI, made the switch from full size to tkl to 65 to 60

It's possible

[marsh saffron]

People can adapt 🤷

Quite quickly may I add

[dire delta]

This

[loud gull]

You'd have to get used to it, and I agree nothing beats dedicated keys. But it is an option.
We'd had a bunch of coders actually daily driving the 60% with layers, and they adapted to it.

[marsh saffron]

^

Was gonna say that

[calm pulsar]

Im a beginner coder and I use a 60he, with arrow keys, no problems so far

[marsh saffron]

I've talked to plenty of full time coders who main 60he only

[dire delta]

mapping Home and End will also help a lot

[loud gull]

Haha 😛

It is now on the wall. Geons + 80HE replaced it

[dire delta]

Just spring swapped my RAW HEs with Lekker L70

[calm pulsar]

80HE + raws must be awesome

[dire delta]

Now I have to play the waiting game again

[loud gull]

Though I still want tactiles

[loud gull]

They are compatible? Good to know! Sometimes I get questions on them.

[dire delta]

They are :)

We need some sprit slow extreme ii 63.5 for HE switches 👉 👈

[marsh saffron]

Tactile HE switches would be cool

[loud gull]

Still bothering Calder with it everytime I see him

I loved the marbly sounds and feel of the Akko Blue Oceans 😛

[calm pulsar]

I'd be down for some Brown-like tactiles

[marsh saffron]

Well definitely keep pestering him with it, would be cool asf to have

Still want silent HE switches as well

[loud gull]

Believe Gateron was working on some silent switches

[dire delta]

Just want nylon top HEs

[marsh saffron]

Yes but they apparently sound like one they already made

Which isn't really silent at all and sounds like shit

Iirc it was gateron zero degrees or something like that

[polar girder]

Yes this

[loud gull]

I believe they added something on the top, so bottoming them is probably still loud. But the return is more silent. Not 100% sure if this was the case though.

[hushed stirrup]

Do i need to get long stabs for geon raw he on 60he? Heard some people needed it for the jades

[marsh saffron]

Probably not

It's only ever an issue with bad keycaps really

[loud gull]

The jades come with some long pole stems if you buy them from our store. Though I never experienced issues with it myself. Geons I don't experience any problems either.

[marsh saffron]

Neither have I, my dashes are fine

Using wootings white keycaps

Stock stabs

[hushed stirrup]

So ill probably only run into problems with bad caps with poor tolerances?

Good to know the stock stabs work well enough

[marsh saffron]

Pretty much yeah

[hushed stirrup]

Noice

[languid forge]

okaoyk

hello

I would put my stabalizers ON

the PCB

THEn

put my poron foam on top

and the the PC Plate?

@uneven cradle

i needd hellpp

[quiet bay]

Should we also be expecting a sound test on the 80he with the jades and raws?

[loud gull]

Lekker V2, Jades, Geon RAW, Black Knights

[quiet bay]

[calm pulsar]

nice, all the goats

[languid forge]

Do I just not use screws that were for the screw in stabs for when I replace them with clip in stabalizers?

[loud gull]

With clipins you don't need screws no. They just attach to the switch plate.

[languid forge]

switch plate = PCB?

[sturdy gull]

Hiya! Wooting newbie here trying to get the most out of it.
I own a Wooting 60HE+ and I am trying to achieve the following...
Press let's say key 1, the key 1 will be spammed in a game not in a chat.
I was able to achieve that with macros in the past
So... Press key fully, press and release happens till I lift... is that possible?

[loud gull]

switch plate is the white plate on top where the switches are pushed into

[languid forge]

and then put my poroin sandwhich plate on top? then the PC plate

[loud gull]

PCB is the plate with actual chips

PC plate = switch plate yes

[languid forge]

basically

install them the same as screw ins

but just not with screws

into the PCBA

yada yada yada, yes?

@loud gull

[loud gull]

Actuallyyyyyyyyyy.. no 😛

[languid forge]

ah oh

why?

[loud gull]

You clip them onto your PC plate

Ignore the PCB at the bottom 😛

Trying to find a clip holdup

[loud gull]

Yesss

[languid forge]

so I install the clip in stabalizers on the top from the PC plate?

really?

[loud gull]

You slide them in basically

imma look for a video it is hard to explain haha

[languid forge]

so totally different way to installing them compared to screw in stabs

[loud gull]

Yes it is

[languid forge]

PLEASE!

would be very helpful

rn i am building the keyboard

lol

[loud gull]

Benefit is... that you actually don't need to disassemble the whole keyboard to install them

[languid forge]

true

I am swapping the sandwich pad tho

(poron)

[loud gull]

https://youtu.be/XkosHUBUrdI?si=SlJheMa8ldbEtYh6&t=190

[languid forge]

Please find me a video! I don't wanna mess anything up. 😄

[loud gull]

Finally found it. I swear I had a video somewhere lmao

[languid forge]

this talks about clip in stabs?

[loud gull]

Yes

[languid forge]

timestamp?

[loud gull]

Already starts if you click the link

[languid forge]

Ahhh

TY Sander

[loud gull]

Ayoo your welcome. Gl man!

[languid forge]

Very big help ive seen all the wooting mod videos

👍

Also I have the module+

im guessing it will work the same?

[loud gull]

Yeah trying to pump enough out so our customer service won't get overloaded with difficult to explain questions haha

Yeah, it is pretty much the same

[languid forge]

smaaarrt

way easier to understand through videos as compared to test responses

[gaunt plume]

I would like to see an even newer model than 60HE+
It's a good reason to buy a new keyboard.

[faint ember]

i upgraded my keycaps guys (^-^)

[left depot]

cute

[languid forge]

time for lubing switches and my stabs for 3 hours

[glacial wind]

I recommend itaewon class for your kdrama of choice while lubing

[languid forge]

[stone flax]

cute

[stone flax]

guh

[languid forge]

also need to clip my stabs real quick

[glacial wind]

A great underdog story of a rising working class man who takes down the big corporations

[stone flax]

it takes 5mins to bag lube, 15 minutes to tune stabs (60%)

Skip lubing switches if open bottom

skip if closed actually

are there any he switches that have a terrible enough lube job

other than overoiling

[glacial wind]

But then he won’t get to watch itaewon class

It’s an excellent drama

[languid forge]

60%?

[stone flax]

5 stabs

4 2u’s one sb

[glacial wind]

I think he’s new though so it might take awhile for first time doing it

[languid forge]

yesssss

noob

[solar tundra]

It took me 3 hours to Lube my Switches and Stabs first time

[glacial wind]

everyone always take a bit longer on first time taking apart and lubing stuff

[languid forge]

GUYS

[solar tundra]

I was also not a fan of bag lubing

[languid forge]

when clipping my stabs

[glacial wind]

You’ll be able to get at least 3 episodes of itaewon class in

[languid forge]

can I use toe nail clippers

(not used I swear)

[solar tundra]

even if u used it it shouldnt be a problem

[stone flax]

for what? theres no need to clip the stab housings

or cut off switch pins

what for

[glacial wind]

I’d only trust toe nail clippers that are used personally

I need to confirm their commitment to cutting

[solar tundra]

What are the best Stabs u can buy for wooting?

I still have stock

[languid forge]

@stone flax

these are not my stabs

[stone flax]

yeah

[languid forge]

from video

[stone flax]

NOT ur stabs

[languid forge]

do I clip these?

[stone flax]

arent wooting stabs preclipped lol

[languid forge]

im gummy mounting

[stone flax]

what?

[languid forge]

gummy o ring

[solar tundra]

he prob mean friction mount

[stone flax]

I know

[languid forge]

yesytes

[stone flax]

Im asking why that matters

LOL

[languid forge]

and it doesnt work with screw in stabs

[stone flax]

are wooting stabs preclipped

[stone flax]

???

[languid forge]

so im using clip in stabs

[stone flax]

That has nothing to do with stabs being preclipped or not

Ur confused

[languid forge]

i think were talking about 2 different things rn

[stone flax]

no we arent

[solar tundra]

Which Stabs are you using deapple

[languid forge]

cherry

[solar tundra]

Stock or?

[stone flax]

clip those then

bum cherry still needs that

[languid forge]

👍

[stone flax]

thought u meant wooting stabs

[glacial wind]

He’s changing everything iirc

[languid forge]

nono not wooting

lol

[stone flax]

Say what stab ur using

[languid forge]

true

[stone flax]

people would assume u meant the stabs that COMES WITH

[languid forge]

yeyeyeye

[solar tundra]

What are actualy the best Stabs u can get for ur Wooting?

[languid forge]

i think all are like the same idk

[solar tundra]

Or are the stocks fine?

[languid forge]

wootings are good

[stone flax]

screws ins knights, plate mount any of those new adaptive platemounts

[calm pulsar]

stocks are good, just need to lube them right

[stone flax]

realistically just tune the og

[solar tundra]

Which Parts would you Lube on them?

[calm pulsar]

btw @solar tundra what ended up happening to your keyboard? I remember you had a broken usb port

[calm pulsar]

the stem and housings, and the metal wires

[solar tundra]

Yeah, just got a new PCB today

[stone flax]

thinner lube on housings, grease on wire, tune further with syringe if needed

@languid forge cherry wires are disgusting btw

ur gonna be spending the most time on those

My reccomendation

Use different ones

[glacial wind]

Geon sells pre balanced wires now

[stone flax]

especially if its ur first time balancing

cherry would be hell

[solar tundra]

Btw i tried to make it in the middle again, it worked but im not sure if i should use when the usb port was bent over

i need to email them i received the new pcb so i can send the old one in and they check it

[calm pulsar]

I see, I hope they can fix the port or smth

[stone flax]

how are wooting wires thickness to cherry

are tolerances fine between cherry housings and wooting wire

[solar tundra]

I mean it fixed the port but im not sure you should do that und use it

they prob just change the usb port

new usb port isnt that expensive and they prob just change it yeah

[calm pulsar]

damn too bad I ordered from the korean local store when the wires were not yet selling

now tempted to order something else
might grab the stem spacers, new wires and stuff

[solar tundra]

Do you Guys ever "Re-Lube" the Switches?

[stone flax]

you mean that as in wipe the stock lube and do ur own job?

[solar tundra]

I hand Lubed my WS Dash Switches

But i can tell they alr dont feel the same as they did at the beginning

[calm pulsar]

lube eventually sets in, so you ideally relube every 6 months or something

but I guess it depends on what parts you lube

[solar tundra]

they still butter smooth but the sound isnt as it was at the beginning but i think thats normal

And prob after like 1-2 years i should get new springs? so they feel like new again

[stone flax]

no way

who lubes every 6 months

[calm pulsar]

I dunno my jades started feeling dry after 6 months

[ocean widget]

not me i never even touched lube in my life

[stone flax]

yowzas

[solar tundra]

I handlubed everything, i lubed the Sites of the Bottom Housing, Top and Bottom of the Springs and the Stem on Top on every site a bit

[stone flax]

just say u lubed everything

[solar tundra]

I mean i did not lubed the middle thing of the bottom housing

and i did like a tiny amount

[stone flax]

idk without a leaf contact there is drastically less areas to lube

[solar tundra]

not overlubed them def

[calm pulsar]

but I mean jades started feeling dry from the factory lube, maybe if you lube on your own it feels good for longer

[stone flax]

id honestly be fine only doing the sliders and rails

[stone flax]

pole?

[solar tundra]

What are the Terms on the Switch

Bottom Housing, Stem, Spring, Top Housing?

I did the Sites on the bottom housing where the stem goes along

Then i did bottom and top spring

[stone flax]

leaf, slider, rails, bottom/top housing, spring, stem legs/feet, poles

etc

etc

[solar tundra]

watafag

What are leaf slider rails and poles

but anyway so people actual relube their switches?

[stone flax]

leaf is the mental contact on a traditional mechanical

slider and rails rub against each other

poles is the long stick thing on a stem

[solar tundra]

I did not lube the pole

and the insite of the bottom house where the pole goes in

should i lubed that or

[stone elbow]

The springs rattle a bit on the jades after a while on factory lube

[calm pulsar]

yeah it was the case for me

[last lintel]

The "Wooting Double Shot Backlit PBT Keycap ISO Nordic Set", that you can order with your 80HE, does that come with just the keys for your 80HE, if you ordered the module 80HE, or is it keycaps for a full Keyboard, with numpad and stuff?

[untold wigeon]

do cerakeys weigh down the keys on .1 activation

[austere creek]

id assume so

at least the spacebar for sure

but the keyboard would calibrate the new 0 point once it first receives power from the usb port

[untold wigeon]

oh i never knew that pretty neat

[austere creek]

yeah we dont have a manual calibration as it continually tries to calibrate the bottom out for example and top out is calibrated on power on

[tawdry tree]

when manual calibration man, whennn?!?! 😭

[spice plover]

Tako here we come after work

[little glen]

what set is this

[polar girder]

GMK Tako

[little glen]

i really like that

[languid forge]

hellooo

can I gummy o ring mod if I have poron sandwich pad inbetween my PC plate and PCB?

does it work?

@calm pulsar

arc ur pretty smart

[calm pulsar]

yes this is the way I have it

cause silicon has to be cut in order to work with friciton mount

[languid forge]

Rn im building the keyboard

ALSO

ARC

HUGE question

Can I facetime show you what im trying to explain

like discord webcam?

@calm pulsar

https://tenor.com/view/please-pretty-please-cat-cute-cat-meme-gif-11605211365669109099

[calm pulsar]

im busy rn 😄
you can send a vid here

getting shit on tarkov rn

[languid forge]

i think the vid would be too long for me to upload

[languid forge]

tarkov 99% cheating

So Arc

Basically

I am trying to gummy o ring the wooting

to do this I need to use clip in stabs

^ Do I remove these screws (connected to the plate mounted stabs)

And then take off the stabs

[calm pulsar]

you mean screws connected to the screw-in stabs? the stock ones

[languid forge]

AND THEN

[languid forge]

yes

and then screw back in the actual screws to hold the PCB, Poron sandwich and PC plate

BUT

Dont screw back in the stabalizer screws

because I dont want that because im going to be using clip in stabs?

(IDK if this made 100% sense kinda hard to type it out, im bad with keyboard jargon)

[calm pulsar]

you need to remove the screws that hold the stock screw-ins, because the clip ins clip in into those same spots

[languid forge]

So completely get rid of the screws that hold in the stock stabalizers

and never use them again

[calm pulsar]

yeah, you'll need screws in case you want to install screw-ins in the future

[languid forge]

yeye I wont throw them away just in case for future modding I guess

but you understand the idea

But thank you!

my first keyboard mod ever...

my first custom keyboard

super hard

AND

AFter all of that

The gummy mount will still fit in with the poron sandwich pad still being in there

[calm pulsar]

yes, it will just compress a bit

[languid forge]

👍

https://tenor.com/view/love-it-yes-gif-26957468

[calm pulsar]

glad to help

[tiny frigate]

Ayy what are the best mods I can do to my wooting

[languid forge]

depends what sound you want it to make

[tiny frigate]

Hmm not sure I’ll wait for it to arrive and then see if I wanna add anything

[languid forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjJT1Un2pIg&pp=ygUaY3JlYW15IHZzIGNsYWNreSB2cyB0aG9ja3k%3D

Which sound ya want

[gritty quail]

so am i understanding this right geon raw he> geon raptors

[calm pulsar]

depends on whether you prefer closed bottom or open bottom switches

[gritty quail]

i dont really know the diff atm i use gat oil kings

[rocky geyser]

Sweet, Jade Max's in.

Ordered. Check.

[tiny frigate]

Creamy

[calm pulsar]

wtf 1 dollar per switch...

without shipping

💀

[rocky geyser]

Yeah, you can really only get them if the full see through is appealing to the custom you're running.

[polar girder]

What’s so Max about the Jade Max?

[rocky geyser]

I'm pretty sure it's the exact same (improvement/stats) as thee Jade PRO, but just a fully transparent design.

[calm pulsar]

no these are dual rail

compared to jade pro

[rocky geyser]

Also, the price. The price is max.

Oh yeah, I forgot the pro's aren't dual rail... weird.

[polar girder]

What makes the pro pro?

Max are dual rail? That’s it? Lol

[calm pulsar]

longer spring, tigher tolerances, but people were saying they're not that great

[polar girder]

lol basic bitch gateron shit

Ok yeah I’m already all set on that whole series

Unless the silent one is sweet

[rocky geyser]

They have some sound stuff but nothing from reviewers. The PRO's are supposed to be just as stable as what we are looking out for these days, like dash. I ordered both and will test them, one in each Wooting, and do a side-by-side against others we've tried.

I wouldn't have ordered the max if it weren't for being fully transparent. The only in-hand I've heard about them is some people on reddit that got test pieces from the events, and they had only good things to say about them. They were impressed. But I won't know until I test.

[stone flax]

Yapyapyap

https://tenor.com/view/text-bubble-gif-25667436

all this when raw he exists

[rocky geyser]

lol, that time of the month I guess 😉

Man, it wasn't so long ago when this sub was professional. Now you get the bitchy memes. Big yikes.

[calm pulsar]

I mean jades are overpriced when raws exist, it's all there is to it

[stone flax]

big yikes is paying a dollar per switch

when raws exist

because u want pretty colors

but i digress

[rocky geyser]

Oh, for sure they're a premium price. Definitely a lot of cheap alternatives.

[stone flax]

stop explanabragging

lmao

no one cares its overpriced other than its overpriced

theyre not worth that cost

lol

😂

[rocky geyser]

I just didn't expect someone to say the sky is blue in such a yap yap way. Happens quite a bit recently, but mostly in those niche gamer related Discords. They love the 'yap' phrases and memes. Just werid to see it here.

Things just changing is all. All good.

[stone flax]

this isnt change tho

its regression

reusing old molds with housing color change

is the definition of change for you

Yikes

[rocky geyser]

I mean, tbh, you just feel sorry for them. The people around them that have to deal with a lot of the personalities on here. Like, they have families, jobs, maybe even kids. It's like, you just feel sorry for people who don't conduct themselves well. It means they likely do it to the people around them, and also, those are the kinds of people that put up with it. So you really reap what you sow there.

[stone flax]

what is blud talking about

[rocky geyser]

Anyway, life is too short. So after giving everyone the heads up on the switches (it was being discusse in the Discord a few times), hopefully it'll be of help to some. And for the good ones here, hey, thanks for being awesome people.

For the others, lol, good luck out there kids 😉

[stone flax]

Am i talking to an AI chatbot

🤖

[somber roost]

unrelated but does anyone here know if gateron jade pro are compatible with wooting? i assume so but would like to confirm

[calm pulsar]

they are

[somber roost]

thanks

[stone flax]

ya

[polar girder]

Worth is subjective

[tawdry tree]

It’s mental that we got a full PC (almost) Jade before anything else

[polar girder]

Stop explainacomplaining

[calm pulsar]

is that the jade max?

[tawdry tree]

True but for this I’d agree 😂

[tawdry tree]

Yeah man

who asked for PC top and stem

[polar girder]

lol it is a stupid price

[polar girder]

Yeah absolutely no one

[tawdry tree]

Also funny that they just discontinued Jade Mini Ns. Pre-release discontinuation. 💀

[polar girder]

It must make them more money 💴 guess

[tawdry tree]

🤑🤑🤑

Ofc

[languid forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrkSoR_mX9Y&t=330s

listen to this

timestamp: 5:33

different ranges to each sound profile

this is extremely thocky sounding

[tiny frigate]

I like creamy more I got a thocky build rn

[polar girder]

A lot of resonating going on

Yeah that’s more creamy imo

Not that thocky

Idk

[crimson sky]

just sounds like foam

[stone flax]

this

cream and thock arent real

its called sound editing

[crimson sky]

https://tenor.com/view/small-small-center-zoolander-ben-stiller-ants-gif-5494197

[polar girder]

Creamy = foam. And Thock = Topre

Got it

[crimson sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqpNnehqtTA

[untold wigeon]

100% chatbot. Or that person was having a stroke

[crimson sky]

At this i am convinced there is people that just get ai bs to write their text for them

Maybe translate it or something idk

[stone flax]

that or its a gateron employee

guy joins servers just to talk about one specific HE switch

[crimson sky]

[ionic breach]

im going to be honest

[quiet bay]

what the

[ionic breach]

everyone that i think is talking in a weird manner, i check their msg history for one thing

[quiet bay]

grammar on discord??

[ionic breach]

and i almost always find it

[untold wigeon]

Now I can see this.

[ionic breach]

Pudding keycaps

[stone elbow]

It arrived 🙌

[quiet bay]

another raw dogger!!

[ionic breach]

damn nice packaging

[quiet bay]

Geon doesn't play

bro makes everything nice

[stone elbow]

i like what they did with the black rubber band

[untold wigeon]

So @ionic breach you’re saying that Skynet is looking for pudding keycaps? Is a terminator gonna show up at @stone flax house?

[ionic breach]

[elfin garnet]

This came in today

[regal nest]

just ignore him, dude got issues

[untold wigeon]

Pretty sweet. I personally can’t go that small but nice specs

[regal nest]

enjoy the first few hours on oled. its an entirely new experience

[loud zephyr]

Eh. Depressing colour and long pole. Geon, plz. You're better than this

[austere creek]

nice sticker whered you buy it

[calm pulsar]

lmao

[elfin garnet]

lmao

[polar girder]

Oh fk bro

That’s huge

Exciting

Lowkey jelly

[broken cape]

got a bit of a warp situation going on here, foam may be a little too thick. Will this work out when I get switches installed?

[tawdry tree]

Depends how that board calibrates. Why don’t you use it w/o foam/silicone?

[broken cape]

it's not HE :P

[tawdry tree]

Oh is it a mechanical board?

I mean, it’ll work

may sound and feel inconsistent but it’ll work.

[broken cape]

Hm I guess I'll have to try then, when the switches finally arrive

Thanks anyways :)

[tawdry tree]

I’d use w/o the silicone

[tawdry tree]

Np man

[calm pulsar]

damn I can see that the plate is warped af

near screw points

[broken cape]

ye

[tawdry tree]

Looks like a stuffed pillow lmao

[broken cape]

I can try without silicone and just poron, yeah

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, I’d recommend that

[marble island]

somebdy know some good diy mods to let my keyboard sound popy?

[polar girder]

Tape mod

[broken cape]

tbh it's so hard for everyone to have the same perception for keeb buzzwords such as thocc, cream, clack, poppy etc

[polar girder]

CF or FR4 plate

[broken cape]

speaking about plates, is there such a thing as an ISO CF-plate for the 60he?

[polar girder]

https://hypekeyboards.ca/collections/in-stock-1/products/wooting-60he-plates

Yes. Looks to be available there

Customize accordingly

[harsh dove]

How we doing today folks

[polar girder]

Solid. My new Carpios arrived today. Excited to check them out lol

Hope they’re not too heavy

Nylon plate gets here in a couple days

PUMPED

[harsh dove]

I’m sorry, what are Carpios

[polar girder]

still waiting on knight restock lol

https://deltahub.io/products/carpio-g2-0

This thing lol

[harsh dove]

Ohhhh those

[polar girder]

My hands are fucked so seeing if this helps lol

Got one to replace the Wooting wrist rest too. Sans strap

[harsh dove]

I’ve thought about getting one of those like last year or some time ago but never did

I’ve seen more and more peeps with em recently

[polar girder]

Yeah this new fingertip mouse I think the support will help

[broken cape]

in general p cool :o though canada means terribly shippiong cost :p

[polar girder]

He’s from Canada

But maybe still sucks lol

I mean CF ain’t cheap

[broken cape]

yee, I'm a cyclist, I gotta know XD

[languid forge]

@harsh dove

[harsh dove]

Put stabs on first

[languid forge]

woops

deleted

[languid forge]

okok

[polar girder]

lol

[languid forge]

would it make a big difference?

[harsh dove]

Well the oring wraps around the stabs

[languid forge]

true

[harsh dove]

So they need to be installed first

[languid forge]

if no stabs

ye

gotta lube up

[teal geode]

wuque dashes or geon raaw he

[quiet bay]

I like the sound and look of raws better

keep in mind the raws are a bit louder than other switches

but maybe it's cause I didn't lube them :v

since factory already smooth enough

take this with a grain of salt cause I only have 3 raw he switches 😂

[stone elbow]

i'd say jades are louder than raw he

the raws are so good

[quiet bay]

I think if I lube the raws they might be the same volume as my lekkers

[quiet bay]

ye agreed

they're good looking as well

oh @stone elbow did you already put them in?

[stone elbow]

yup

[quiet bay]

oo thanks

[stone elbow]

idk what the white noise is coming from

[quiet bay]

was about to ask for a sound test too lol

[stone elbow]

is this creamy?

[quiet bay]

sounds poppy to me

creamy popz?

or a creamy clack

[stone elbow]

yeah creamy clack sounds like it

[quiet bay]

I like it

you plan on lubing or nah?

though they honestly dont really need it that much

[ionic breach]

a thack?

[quiet bay]

thacky pops lol

[ionic breach]

the noise might be coil whine

[quiet bay]

mostly seems poppy to me

[stone elbow]

i have krytox 105 on the way, but i don't plan on lubing soon

i wonder where the coil whine is from

[stone flax]

guys how do i get the thockiest creamiest clackiest sounding wooting?

im not doing any mods but swapping the switches

please help!!!!

[quiet bay]

what the

thockiest creamiest clackiest

[stone flax]

i also plan to do 4 layers of tape mod

[quiet bay]

[stone flax]

ive seen youtube videos and i heard it makes it more thocky

and creamy!!!

[quiet bay]

my tape mod is the life line of my keyboard ngl lol

[stone elbow]

nah do 5 layers instead, multiple of 2 < multiple of 5

[calm pulsar]

7 layer tape mod

[stone flax]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgKJIMyz9kI i really want something like this youtube video!!

its so creamy!!

[quiet bay]

would probably be easier to produce on the 80he ngl

[ionic breach]

well the 80he has a silicon gasket

[quiet bay]

no poron? D:

[fluid ravine]

im home!

[ionic breach]

cant

[fluid ravine]

vb practice was amazing :>

[ionic breach]

its a gasket

[quiet bay]

oh right

[stray tiger]

Well I dont know what creamy is supposed to sound like and if thats it, count me out. I think that board sounds horrible. Thats the best thing about this hobby lol

[quiet bay]

eh I think you can still do it though

[ionic breach]

yup

[stone flax]

it was satire

[ionic breach]

its like thock with mushy lube sounds to me lmao

[stone flax]

i hate lil shoosh hipyotech and flurples so much

[fluid ravine]

it sounds mushy :/

needs some soul into the board

[stone flax]

its edited

[stray tiger]

I like Hipyotech but I'm biased

[fluid ravine]

hipyotech alright

[stone flax]

lil shoosh is a scumbag that uses his platform to record heavily edited sound tests and sell his comissioned boards for 3x markups

[ionic breach]

probably a nice guy

[stone elbow]

i hope the raws will be easier to remove than the jades, it was a bit of a struggle

[quiet bay]

oh...

uhm

good luck

[stone flax]

he's paid off

[stray tiger]

Hipyotech has introduced more people to the custom mech world than any other social media player

[ionic breach]

[stone flax]

in a bad way

he unironically recommends epomaker

and aula

and ajazz

[teal geode]

Have u lubed them?

[stone elbow]

what do you mean by this 💀

[stone flax]

and any chinesium brand that can just crap out on people

[stray tiger]

I couldnt disagree more.

[stone elbow]

factory lube

[stray tiger]

This hobby needs more people

[fluid ravine]

alexotos ftw

[quiet bay]

a lil bit tight..

[teal geode]

Not even spring?

[stone elbow]

it's all stock

[stray tiger]

Obviously Alex is my personal fav but again, Im biased

[stone elbow]

the switch i mean

[cedar gate]

I have seen that vid its awesome

[teal geode]

They sound good ah stock

[quiet bay]

I like all sound profiles as long as it's satisfying

hehe

[fluid ravine]

well im with you there

[stone flax]

respectfully no, there are better content creators to get into the hobby with than watching a SPONSORED VIDEO of a epomaker whitelabeled board and thinking "oh my god this budget keeb thocks!!!" just for the board to break in 6 weeks and have abysmal software

[teal geode]

What case u using

[stone elbow]

acrylic tofu 60 redux

friction mount

[teal geode]

I don’t know what the fuck friction mount is lol

[cedar gate]

It really does

[stone flax]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcMG9FItrFw hipyotech is actively harmful for new hobbyists

https://youtu.be/GYgIbG8JZFk

[cedar gate]

Hipyo is alright but his advice on HE sucks

[stone flax]

if u dont have the integrity to not just take the bag when a product is known to literally PRESENT DANGER u are not a good source for anything

[cedar gate]

He's recommending random HE boards

[quiet bay]

I think he's more focused on the sound than the actual specs themselves

[ionic breach]

nice guy, just doesnt do the due diligence sometimes

[tawdry tree]

Eh, the british guy tops him I think

[cedar gate]

Yeah fr

[stone flax]

lightningxi, alexotos, blacksimon, even taeha >>>>>>>>> hipyo, switch & click, lewis toh

[stone elbow]

the module stays in place in the case with friction by a gummy o-ring that you put around the module

[polar girder]

Bro is always picking a fight about something

[tawdry tree]

Glarses, I think by a long shot too

[stone flax]

he's turned to mostly content but yeah he was nice

[tawdry tree]

yeah

[fluid ravine]

oh yeah glarses

[teal geode]

Oh I see

[fluid ravine]

he cool

[jade storm]

OMFG PLEASE LET'S BE CREAMY TOGETHER

[stray tiger]

So youre saying Hipyo knew that a keyboard was a fire hazard and then willingly promoted it?

[jade storm]

Yes

[stone flax]

ofc

you think he even looks into the boards he's gonna shill in a video

he takes the bag and goes

[quiet bay]

his videos always crack me up lol

[fluid ravine]

fr

[stray tiger]

No where in that video does he mention the fire hazard or that he knows about it.

[tawdry tree]

he’s funny af

[stray tiger]

Where did he admit that he knew?

[jade storm]

Why would he? If he's getting paid?

[stone flax]

u think he honestly even touches a board after he reviews it

[jade storm]

Did you read what you said? lol

[stone flax]

he admits in live streeams

he does a video on a board

and puts inside his closet

LOL

he does not care about what receives

[stray tiger]

Wait are you seriously making an assumption that he knew and didnt say anything because its a sponsored video?

[stone flax]

its a paycheck

[jade storm]

queue creamy sticker

[fluid ravine]

ima step out

[stone flax]

isn't it 10 times worse that he didn't do his due dilligence into the board?

[polar girder]

Yeah but that’s different than promoting a fire hazard lol

[jade storm]

I'm not going to say I definitely know why, but it's a strong assumption

[stone flax]

well thats what he did

he promoted a fire hazard

sponsored links and all

[polar girder]

I mean he for sure doesn’t care about most keyboards and just ditches them after he’s paid

[polar girder]

Yeah but did he know

[stray tiger]

You guys picked the wrong channel for throwing around baseless accusations. You had me thinking you actually had proof of something

[tawdry tree]

He means it’s negligent if you review a board without doing a bit of research about it. It’s whatever tbh

[stone flax]

"its okay he showcased a board that melts in flames because he didnt know!! its an oopsie" - this isnt a one time thing, he actively presents epomaker boards and continues to operate in negligience just to keep getting sponsorships

[fluid ravine]

adult talk is scary

[stray tiger]

Again, that's not a fact, that's an assumption

[stone flax]

so epomaker as a company isnt shady?

[stray tiger]

Are they? I don't know enough to make that kind of statement.

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/piano-piano-on-fire-man-playing-piano-fire-gif-18619744

[stone flax]

im sorry

but i like my keeb creators with integrity

[jade storm]

least scummy keyboard maker

[cedar gate]

Does it really matter 🤣

[cedar gate]

He's telling you how to make your keyboard thock not writing a self help book

[stone flax]

maybe not to you but with anything enthusiast related

there are bad apples

lol

[cedar gate]

Honestly if its good advise idc who's giving it

[stone flax]

its bad advice

tho

?

[polar girder]

Man

[stray tiger]

@tawdry tree Hipyo has more followers, 3x times the amount of published content and more than 10x the views. If Glarses has him beat with getting people into the hobby then thats an awesome accomplishment.

[polar girder]

Blocking people is a way of life.

If there’s anything CS2 taught me is to just mute the morons and keep it pushing lol

[stray tiger]

Although the funniest thing about Hipyo is that his most watched video by a large margin is about a water bottle lol

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, just basing it off of popularity. I like Glarses, he’s funny. 😂

[stone flax]

i get it

[stray tiger]

Same, he has good content

[stone flax]

there are some spaces where people seem to care about stuff like this

but not in wooting

ill stick to modding talk ig

[jade storm]

I honestly just think the guy's a bit strange too, but this is personal bias. Who has keyboard modding as their sole hobby? it's definitely strange

[tawdry tree]

and the collaborations, holy!!

[stone flax]

he needs to fill cement in a board

for the clicks

[stray tiger]

I personally totally appreciate you pointing out that Epomaker has had some/many unscrupulous accusations. I do ask that you don't make an assumption that Hipyo is part of a cover up or doing something shady as well without having evidence.

[jade storm]

and fill glue in the bottom of keycaps

[stone flax]

i dont think hipyo is nefarious in his endeavors

just that he really does not care

like at all

[stray tiger]

Lot's of people

[stone flax]

he's admitted multiple times on stream

he sees an email for a board

takes the board

reviews it

in closet

does that really sound like someone who has the best interests of the people watching his videos purchase-decision wise?

[tawdry tree]

I respect long term reviewers so much. They’re so rare as well man. 😭

[stone flax]

i dont even take it against the guy

he was cool

but its obvious he just took the bag

doesnt make him a bad person, just unreliable

[stray tiger]

If he is honest about his reviews, the pros and the cons and doesnt encourage reckless spending behavior, then 100% yes. If however, he knowlingly doesnt cover a serious hazard or flaw, then that's different, but there doesnt seem to be any proof of that.

[stone flax]

so just because he doesnt know these companies and boards are bad its fair game?

[stray tiger]

Yes lol. How can you hold someone culpable for not being aware of something?

If there was a keyboard knowledge ranking in here, I'd like to think I'm in the top 10%, but even I didnt know that Epomaker was banned in r/mk and I am there daily

[polar girder]

😵‍💫

[stone flax]

okay how about this

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxg_iWyA6nP4OLUC3auLuLOpFsSelAi9Wm?feature=shared @stray tiger

he knows

[polar girder]

People salty cuz people are making videos about products and making money off them?

[tawdry tree]

It depends, if it’s not that widely known that epomaker has issues, then it would be fair for him to be unaware but if it’s a common issue, he should do his due diligence as a reviewer to research the product to a certain extent, IMO.

[polar girder]

Story old as time

[stone flax]

he just jokes about it

LOL

he knows the accusations

and just treats it like a joke

[untold wigeon]

Hipyo reviews everything and never hates anything lol except north facing leds

[stone flax]

what now?

[stray tiger]

I agree that a good reviewer should do their due diligence, but that's different than saying he is knowingly pushing unsafe products for a few dollars

[pulsar schooner]

The amount of shit tier stuff he puts a video or short out on recently is kinda wild

[stone flax]

idk

[tawdry tree]

Ehhhhh 😕

[stone flax]

i just posted that he knows epomaker boards are stolen or whitelisted

but treats it jokingly

[stray tiger]

Welcome to the world of full time content creation in a very small hobby base

[stone flax]

doesnt look so unknowing imo

kinda scummy actually

[pulsar schooner]

Wait why they banned? I’m out of the loop on that one

[stray tiger]

if we want to talk about IP theft in Asia, I'm betting Epomaker is nowhere near the top of the list.

[stray tiger]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[tawdry tree]

Yeah of course. I don’t know him or any of his videos so can’t say. I do believe any reviewer has a responsibility and should be as unbiased as a human can be despite it being a paid promotion.

[ionic breach]

he just probably dont care that much abt keyboards

[stone flax]

definitely not more so than the money

[tawdry tree]

I find that a bit sad if true, because that’s his main target audience I believe.

[ionic breach]

its what gives him views

hobbies can be fleeting

[tawdry tree]

I see

[stone flax]

i just hope atleast 1 person here realized hipyo might not be the best source of keeb information

[calm pulsar]

I dont like Hipyo content, cause its just promotion for a ton of cheap boards

which isnt bad, Im just personally interested in more engaging content like Glarses

[sweet oak]

Only hipyo thing i care about is his cat

Good kitty

[stone flax]

and his singing career

[sweet oak]

I forgot the had that

[tawdry tree]

wahttt

[stone flax]

i honestly think he cares more about anything than keyboards nowadays

[tawdry tree]

lol

[calm pulsar]

lmao I listened to this stuf....

[stone flax]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxg_iWyA6nP4OLUC3auLuLOpFsSelAi9Wm?feature=shared

it may not be a cover up

but his manner of addressing one of epomakers many issues was to treat it like a joke 😐

so thats something

[ionic breach]

respectfully

no more pls

[heavy gate]

Mj

More!!

More mj!!

[pulsar schooner]

Why do a video in the first place if there is the question of it being controversial? It’s just trying to get a paycheck / doing an ad rather than actually being a reviewer

[stone flax]

bingo

[untold wigeon]

This is cursed. 6 back buttons?

https://youtu.be/4Q6Oy97uaLQ?si=UAbOkFG46seMcnZM

[pulsar schooner]

His old content was much better, and it’s a clear shift in tone and knowledge from what it used to be

[polar girder]

lol I need a basic HE controller for rocket league with my buddies

[ionic breach]

oh ya rocket league

haven't heard that in years

[untold wigeon]

My apex4 is where it’s at.

[pulsar schooner]

Dude third party controllers is a whole thing in it’s self

[untold wigeon]

We should have a #🔧│keyboard_modding rocket league night. 6v6

[regal nest]

can anyone here suggest european vendors for artisan/accent keycaps and spacebars? can also be an instagram or small shop.

[heavy gate]

😨

[untold wigeon]

?

[heavy gate]

nothing 😉

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/mmmkay-mr-mackey-south-park-s20e1-member-berries-gif-20603930

[pulsar schooner]

I got a Vader 3 pro at the beginning of the year, now they have a 4 pro. I thought about the apex but I don’t like the color scheme, if they had it in a frost black, insta buy

[untold wigeon]

Color is meh but functionality and hardware are next level. Plus I love the programmable oled.

[pulsar schooner]

I like the Vader because it’s just unassuming black controller with great specs and HE

[stray tiger]

Id be down for some CS one night

[polar girder]

I’m on every night bro

[untold wigeon]

I’m terrible at that game. I need to ADS. lol

[pulsar schooner]

Tomorrow my life belongs to the Imperium

[stray tiger]

Im on once a month lately but work is super crazy right now. Im pretty MIA for the next 7 days and then finally my schedule should be back to normal

[untold wigeon]

I don’t know about the Vader but the Apex battery is truly amazing. It lasts forever

[pulsar schooner]

It’s been pretty solid on the Vader, less rgb to drain battery

[untold wigeon]

That’s the crazy thing. With all the rgb and oled the battery still lasts forever. Like 6 hours on rdr2 and it won’t even drain a 1/4

[pulsar schooner]

Who’s playing space marine 2 ?

[untold wigeon]

@pulsar schooner get this. It’s worth every penny. Plus the dongle plugs into it so you don’t have to give up an extra port.

https://a.co/d/7wpqusf

[polar girder]

Yeah just hit me up whenever

[polar girder]

Tempted

[polar girder]

Which controller should I get tho

Vader or apex

[untold wigeon]

@polar girder FLYDIGI APEX 4 Wireless PC... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CRR1WR9W?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share