🔧│keyboard_modding

[fluid ravine]

Yeah I'm gonna knock out at school

[left depot]

[prime orbit]

Aight my cable comes today

Last thing to finish my keyboard is my case that’s in china still 😭

[tawdry tree]

https://youtu.be/njD64DV5iHw?si=FI1TG_sRfBPQp99C 💯
He didn’t balance the wires. 🤔

[thorn zealot]

Mb late reply I knocked the fuck out

To me it seems like personal opinion

Like almost everything in this hobby

Some ppl say the thing keybored said and others say what u said

So ig I’ll see when my alu plate comes

As long as it’s brighter than my pc plate that I’m buzzin

[languid forge]

yo my friend wanted to buy a highground keyboard

i have no idea if they are good

i dont think hes got the budget for wooting or somehting

THOUGHTS?

[glacial wind]

good lord no

how is highground his option if he doesn't have wooting money. their keyboards are specifically made to be pricier than other alternatives

[ionic breach]

no

what he likes is the higround keycaps right?

not the keyboard

[calm pulsar]

buying a highground is wasting money

[ionic breach]

if so just get keycaps that he likes

not a whole keyboard

[tawdry tree]

If he wants a budget board that isn’t terrible like HighGrounds, he should get either the Raven68 or the Fire68. Raven’s lowest end switches are slightly better than Fire68's but he should choose whichever is cheapest.

Great boards, both. Especially for their price.

[languid forge]

he wants the one piece one

IDK MAN

[ionic breach]

get the one piece keycaps

not a whole keyboard

[languid forge]

thats what I said

[left depot]

I ordered it for my 80

[calm pulsar]

this would look so goofy in person xd

[tawdry tree]

Are they sold separately?

[languid forge]

will tell him

[ionic breach]

it will lmao

[languid forge]

no idea

[urban harbor]

some people just really want anime keycaps

if that is their taste then go with God

[tawdry tree]

Just be a good friend and don’t let him buy a highground board.

[languid forge]

TRUE

but I dont wanna do that to him

[languid forge]

thats what im thinking

ill recommend the raven68

or

firebird

something

[tawdry tree]

👍 those are the best budget options out currently.

[languid forge]

how much is the raven68?

[calm pulsar]

tbh its not even the fact that it's anime themed, but the fact that its a picture painted on top of all keycaps, which looks weird from the usual angle

there are different anime themed keycaps that look good from all angles and still are functional

[tawdry tree]

both are around $65-75

[languid forge]

usd?

thats really good price

[tawdry tree]

Yeah.

It is.

Software is decent as well.

and it ranks among the best in terms of latency.

[languid forge]

kk

looks decent

every review

is in thai

struggling rn

[tawdry tree]

😂😂 that’s with most HE boards.

Much more popular in Asia

[glacial wind]

it's interesting the typeplus wires seem never balanced well, but doesn't seem to impact performance

i've seen so many typeplus posts in korea where the wires are just never balanced

[tawdry tree]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EuZWXtL

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EQDR1TP

Both seems to have slightly increased in price ($75 - $80)

https://youtu.be/R_THxrvomN4?si=zz27wolNVNDQeczk

[polar girder]

Dang sounds good

[cedar gate]

Not fully accurate

[prime orbit]

I just copied the chat

[cedar gate]

🤣

I got it from a yt vid

[cedar gate]

FINALLY WE GOT THE VID

I've been inactive here for a while

[tawdry tree]

wow!

seems like a smart design

(not sarcastic)

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

they really thought what is missing in modern keyboards, and their answer was fucking jet engines. YESSSSS

[left depot]

fidget boards

[tawdry tree]

nahhh

[left depot]

https://tenor.com/view/fast-running-gif-27100967

keyboard

[untold wigeon]

Kinda hoped for less wobble. Sounds clean enough though

[tawdry tree]

Wobble looks to be a bit less

[torpid crow]

Do you think I can send in the Wooting postcard for a favor and ask for a single keycap

[tall hollow]

it does sound way cleaner than the V1.5

and I am assuming V1 is now discontinued?

oh wait you can still get them?

[polar girder]

I was playing with my Frankenstein raptors last night.

Kind of miss them

[tall hollow]

im getting black knight switches soon

[polar girder]

Nice. That’s what I’m rocking right now

[tawdry tree]

Discontinued but not sold out yet.

[tall hollow]

ah, so its while supplies last?

[tawdry tree]

They will or are already 50% off when V2s come out.

[tawdry tree]

Precisely

[tall hollow]

no discount yet it seems

[tawdry tree]

Then if you want to pick them up, give it a minute.

50% off is worth the wait.

[tall hollow]

nah, I am kinda sick of my V1.0 switches lel

the wobble is getting to the point where it even binds up slightly

[trail coral]

do u guys think lekker v2 or gateron jade are better

[glacial wind]

raw he is the correct answer

[crisp imp]

Jades are great

[cyan zodiac]

jade lit

[pulsar schooner]

I pick mine up today from the P.O.

[tall hollow]

Mine should be arriving in the mail next week

[cold bloom]

I still am not a huge fan of lekkers, I think I'd still go jades personally but Raw HE for me is the king rn

[stone flax]

raw he

[pulsar schooner]

I’m confused on how these will work. Make as just a non adjustable he, for longevity reasons? also I’m sure these will be quite pricey

[stone flax]

what points to this being nonadjustable

in any way?

[tawdry tree]

It’s just instead of the sensor being on the PCB, it’ll be in the switch itself. Not really sure what the benefit is but it shouldn’t harm functionality in any way.

[stone flax]

wait

these arent going to be standard pcb compatible?

[tawdry tree]

Doesn’t look like it, no.

Look at the pin layout

Not like a standard mx

[stone flax]

boo, was hoping the lack of switch pins was just illustrative

[pulsar schooner]

I don’t understand the point of them if they won’t fit in a standard pcb then?

[subtle mantle]

Does v2s have a closed bottom housing like the jade?

[stone flax]

nope

[cold bloom]

I don't believe so

[tawdry tree]

Neither do I!

[pulsar schooner]

Correct me if I’m wrong but no full 4.00mm travel HE switch has a closed bottom

[cold bloom]

usually not no

[tawdry tree]

Maybe it is cheaper to have the sensor in the switch instead of on the PCB, but I’m really not sure how.

[stone flax]

ok lets start rubbing our brains together, what benefit is their in the sensor being in the switch rather than pcb?

more accurate is most cases?

[cold bloom]

maybe cheaper pcb to produce?

[tawdry tree]

Closed or open doesn’t equate total travel. You can have a closed bottom switch of 4.0mm or an open bottom of 3.5mm.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking but then again, the cost per switch would be higher.

[pulsar schooner]

True but in the current available market are there any with full 4.00 that are closed?

[tawdry tree]

I doubt it, there are many boards with extremely high accuracy currently.

[pulsar schooner]

I doubt it would be, you’d have to make nonstandard pcb just to use these proprietary switches

[tawdry tree]

I don’t think so. Hejin/Grain Gold’s closed bottom switches are 3.8mm or so.

[stone flax]

im thinking more so in the problems that occur when the physical movement of a pcb causes issues

[tawdry tree]

That’s a good point.

[stone flax]

like ive seen cases where too little support on a soft plate makes it so that since the pcb physically dips down, u actuate multiple switches when placing pressure on one

having it all be switch side removes those completely

aswell as other possible complications

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, that could be it.

[cold bloom]

true

[cold bloom]

good point tbh

maybe standoffs won't be as much of a requirement with those kinda switches

[tawdry tree]

wouldn’t matter at all.

Plateless would be fine as well

[pulsar schooner]

True but again they then would have to produce pcb compatible with the boards where this is an issue just to sell you this one switch. Idk what the market really is here unless others come out with this same format

[glossy pagoda]

Check again

[tawdry tree]

As the sensor is relative to the switch instead of the PCB

[stone flax]

its not a board issue, its a pcb issue entirely, without standoffs or a stiff plate to keep the switches firmly in place then any movement of the switch unintended will cause problematic inputs

[tall hollow]

Ooooo!!!

[tawdry tree]

I think PCB design can be changed fairly cheaply. The cost for creating a whole new switch with a different assembly process and parts seems expensive af tho

[stone flax]

shit id buy them to just run no standoffs reliably

[pulsar schooner]

Idk we will see what they end up doing with them, I bet they will be quite pricey

[tawdry tree]

Definitely. They’re interesting, something new

even if they can’t be used in all boards that I know of, still cool.

😂

[pulsar schooner]

I bet they’d be like $1.50 a pop or something,

[stray tiger]

Ive been following this for a while but obviously from a compatibility & cost perspective it's going to be a challenge. Not having the sensor IC directly on the PCB might have some latency challenges. Guess we will see.

Wishing them luck though. Competition creates wins for the consumer

[tawdry tree]

They certainly believe there’s a market and benefit for those so it’ll be cool to see what boards will release with them.

[cold bloom]

Idk why I never did this before

The full vior set goes hard

[broken cape]

keyboard case (ABS) came with a silicone pad instead of any foam; don't have switches yet to test it out but how does that influence sound compared to poron foam e.g.?

[stray tiger]

I prefer the vior set with the alt mods personally but this looks great

New key machine set went live today. Kind of digging it, even with the Blockbuster color mods lol

[cold bloom]

I have those but have been using blue Hangul alphas with it for some time

Pipe key was flipped there on accident lol

[stray tiger]

Looks great except for the inverted spacebar you psycho

[cold bloom]

Hahahaha I’ve switched it back

I like it flipped for gaming tho tbh

[stray tiger]

Just giving you shit, lots of people do it and love it

[cold bloom]

I know all good lol

It does look weird is the main reason I flipped it back

But it feels great when I have my left hand on my keeb for gaming

[glacial wind]

Tutkeys really leaning into the retro with this windows keycaps lol

They even made solitaire block keycaps

[stray tiger]

That looks sick

@harsh dove someone in my local keeb group sold this yesterday and I missed it

[neon harbor]

v2 lekkers sound the same as v1? Or is it just me?

[dreamy yew]

For me the v2 sound more thocky than the v1

[latent wraith]

has anyone got a link to the tofu on ali please

[elfin garnet]

Here it is

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005913007417.html?

[latent wraith]

appreciate it

[elfin garnet]

np

[ionic breach]

it might be just you

[north plover]

has anyone had issues with PE foam not being listed as anti static?

[tawdry tree]

The sound profile is the same but V2s sound cleaner.

[ionic breach]

much less rattle

like that scratchy sound

[barren wasp]

where can i buy a switch opener besides wooting?

[stone flax]

keep this quiet but i dont even use a switch opener

[barren wasp]

how do you open the switch

[stone flax]

flat head

[barren wasp]

https://www.amazon.com/Krytox-GPL-205-GD0-Lubricant-GPL-205-Mechanical-Stabilizers/dp/B0CQV2TXLB/ref=sxin_16_pa_sp_search_thematic_sspa?content-id=amzn1.sym.fb16fbe4-bf7e-47a2-a56d-1e42bc2dbf4d%3Aamzn1.sym.fb16fbe4-bf7e-47a2-a56d-1e42bc2dbf4d&crid=1TU7LPEN74Y7E&cv_ct_cx=real%2Bkrytox%2B205g0&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3r1Lrrw9Ru5vkFPrvAh1D74byl4fJ5g3QXyxG23wRldMbBK69IduArv4RVPQfM_rpxmFRtFE3d4tFDNQjBH8B5YA69UWrBIMX9N9TEpESIk.uQ7kr3sJ5qFRk1jottrl1ov6lu1gVJIUZUhEA6TgNUA&dib_tag=se&keywords=real%2Bkrytox%2B205g0&pd_rd_i=B0CQV2TXLB&pd_rd_r=1e4b3f74-985f-4a17-81d7-53f5ed987ff8&pd_rd_w=HvP1v&pd_rd_wg=P6hOq&pf_rd_p=fb16fbe4-bf7e-47a2-a56d-1e42bc2dbf4d&pf_rd_r=8SWG9S87A06FJ1YMDXHR&qid=1724874565&sbo=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D&sprefix=real%2Bkyrotox%2B205g0%2Caps%2C94&sr=1-3-6024b2a3-78e4-4fed-8fed-e1613be3bcce-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9zZWFyY2hfdGhlbWF0aWM&th=1

is this real krytox 205g0 i dont want to buy vendor bc of shipping prices and slower shipping

[stone flax]

yup

that is definitely a long link right there

beautiful

[stone flax]

scam price lol

its genuine

but god

16 bucks for that amount???

[barren wasp]

kinetic labs the same including shipping cost

[marsh saffron]

Average Amazon tracking link

[stone flax]

he doesnt know

his zipcode isp and device all from one thicc link

jk

[barren wasp]

was about to freak out

novelkeys sells approx 5ml for 16 including shipping but it takes 3 days

if the one i sent above is actual krytox i wouldnt mind getting amazon instead for faster shipping even if i miss out on the 1.5ml since im only using it on my 60he

[stone flax]

ur loss ig

vendors ship weird but i think i got 5ml of lube for like $10?

cant remember if it was knckeys or

[barren wasp]

i remember you saying youre east coast right

because im east coast aswell

[marsh saffron]

I still can't believe deskhero wants to charge me 30$ to ship 5ml of 205

[barren wasp]

mech.land sells 2 ml for 11 including shipping good deal or no

[stone flax]

No

[barren wasp]

ima need this

[stone flax]

rip sold out

but yeah

It was the 5ml+10% off

Iirc

idk if i stacked other discounts

[jagged flame]

Is there any way to mod the 2HE?

[elfin garnet]

Tune stabs, lube switches, add/remove foam, tape mod

[barren wasp]

Basically any mod

[quiet bay]

@fluid ravine

finally got the Hexas

Gahh dang

[elfin garnet]

https://www.twitch.tv/alexotos

using rewind from thekeymachine

[quiet bay]

ok frik I love these iems already

snug as heck

and also not so powerful it hurts my ears

[stray tiger]

Loving it without the blue accents

[elfin garnet]

I agree. This set up works so much better imo

[harsh dove]

Yeah I like that set but didn’t go for it

[late quest]

this on wooting

[tawdry tree]

cursed

[stone flax]

have dissasembled hundreds of switches with it

it works it works

[tawdry tree]

get a switch opener and whatever tools you need from ali, 205 too.

[tawdry tree]

bro how

that takes so long

compared to just pressing them down

and they pop open

😭

[stone flax]

idk

i can dissasemble a switch in like 5secs

Compared to the 3 with a switch puller

i just autopilot it

[tawdry tree]

you are crazy

[stone flax]

[tawdry tree]

😂

[stone flax]

someone buy me a switch opener

[tawdry tree]

switch opener is like $0.50

[stone flax]

Too expensive

[tawdry tree]

cmon man 😭😭

[ionic breach]

consider not

[stone flax]

maybe not

[quiet bay]

The side profile on these type of keycaps tho

[ionic breach]

70 bucks?

[calm pulsar]

take out a loan

[ionic breach]

cant

the $0.002 interest would bankrupt his lineage

[calm pulsar]

doomed to bleed when opening switches for all eternity

[calm pulsar]

nipple case

[harsh dove]

2 days early

[ionic breach]

o shit

[tawdry tree]

box looks great ngl

potential stream? 🤔🤔🤔

[mental salmon]

Cam, what is your opinion of lekkers V2?

[late quest]

why looks cool

[brisk quail]

How are the Gateron Stabs which come with the 60HE+, i cannot find any reviews on them. Wondering if its worth replacing with TX STabs?

[tawdry tree]

Fierce Gaming Gear -> Finerce Caming Cear. istg 💀💀

[harsh dove]

Should I idk

lol

[tawdry tree]

Only replace or tune if you have an issue with them.

[tawdry tree]

If you got time some of these days, it’d definitely be interesting to see

[stone flax]

bad

also

higround design caps are a joke lets be honest

[ionic breach]

its shit

[harsh dove]

I may do it later today when more people are around

[stone flax]

ur never gonna straight look at ur caps with ur neck strained 90 degrees

[ionic breach]

and its 70 dollars

[stone flax]

lmao

[ionic breach]

please

[tawdry tree]

Looks great, dark green with brass 😍

[harsh dove]

I thought so too

[ionic breach]

damn the nipple case is cleaner that i thought

[harsh dove]

It’s nice than I thought it would be too tbh

Pretty nice case for $89

[fluid ravine]

YES

ILL BE HOME THIS TIME

[ionic breach]

same

first cam stream ill catch 👀

[harsh dove]

lol okay lmk

[fluid ravine]

i dont got practice today :>

[fluid ravine]

ill be home alone from now so YOU should lmk

hehehe yipeee!

hi frijoles

[untold wigeon]

Clearly the only keycap choice for this case is 80085

[fluid ravine]

my days its clean af

[fluid ravine]

80085?

never heard that one before

[harsh dove]

I got a sealed Botanical set

[untold wigeon]

You’re no fun.

[untold wigeon]

Nice choice though

[fluid ravine]

agree^

[harsh dove]

I don’t have B00B5 set

[fluid ravine]

What's the B00B5 set

[harsh dove]

For the nipple case

The one you have

[untold wigeon]

They are made for each other lol

[fluid ravine]

wait why 5?

or is it just a replacement for S

if so then makes sense 💀

[stone flax]

boob

[ionic breach]

s

[fluid ravine]

the "5" just got me confus

[stone flax]

i have boobs

wait

[fluid ravine]

[pulsar schooner]

80085

[fluid ravine]

blooo

[fluid ravine]

here you go

[stone flax]

[untold wigeon]

Bearded Bob is building a 60he as we speak over on Twitch

[stone flax]

wowzas

didnt know he streamed

[elfin garnet]

In an Alumaze. I immediately left stream lol (yes I'm a hater)

[ionic breach]

he got silicon plate

i left too

[cold bloom]

I gotta figure out what to put boob on now

[harsh dove]

https://www.twitch.tv/camofflife

[fluid ravine]

YES

[stone flax]

beardedbob is streaming at the same time

[fluid ravine]

hahaaaaaaa Yipeee!

[stone flax]

Decisions decisions

[fluid ravine]

CAM ftw my goat

[late quest]

bad how?

[stone flax]

ur paying for shittily designed licensing + rev dyesub prolly

also ur never gonna look and admire that looking straight down 90 degrees snapping ur neck

so it just doesnt even make sense aesthetically

kittings also largely nonexistant

[late quest]

whats rev dyesub

[stone flax]

take a light blank and drown it in heat and dye all over

[calm pulsar]

love this color

[stone flax]

i love rev dyesub

[late quest]

suggest some good keycaps for my 60he+ then

gotta look cool i don't like minimalistic looks

[stone flax]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

Go ham

Cant really help u if ur only requirement was “looks good”

[ionic breach]

just not those overpriced 70 dollar ones

[late quest]

how about these?

[stone flax]

uhh

did u forget what was shown with rev dyesub

i mean its ur money

[late quest]

is that a serious issue?

[stone flax]

nah its just a joke that people pretend happens

[late quest]

🥲

[stone flax]

That was sarcasm btw

[ionic breach]

thats fine

its like 30 bucks

if you really like them go ahead

[stone flax]

Printed legends spilling on the render

[late quest]

he says there might be problems in future

[ionic breach]

eh there will

but its a niche set anyways

you will get another set probably

[stone flax]

no one gets reverse dyesub looking for a good quality keycap

But thats the way she goes

when u want these designs

[late quest]

what keycaps should i use which doesn't effect my keyboard?

[stone flax]

??

what does this mean

[late quest]

like u said

good quality

how do i determine if something is good quality

keycaps

[stone flax]

legend quality

lack of shoddy manufacturing marks

evenness of physical caps

etc

[ionic breach]

hate to say this

[stone flax]

etc

Like its not hard

[ionic breach]

lack of graphics

[late quest]

demn

[stone flax]

There are more good caps than bad ones

[stone flax]

all of these zany designs necessitate reverse dyesub because of the colors

which are just intrinsically a bad proccess for keycaps

[ionic breach]

https://kbdfans.com/collections/pbtfans are these too minimalist for u?

@late quest

like is having pictures a must?

[late quest]

nah

can u choose something for me i'm tired looking

[ionic breach]

idk what you like man

[grim mica]

Does all wooting 60he+ come with lekker v2 switch?

[ionic breach]

just take a break lmao and find it on ur own time

[late quest]

no

[late quest]

aight

[stone flax]

No

[ionic breach]

but any themes/colour?

[late quest]

anything except black

[ionic breach]

just press this

[stone flax]

thanks bro let me send you 7,893 keycap sets that arent black

[ionic breach]

and scroll

[late quest]

but how does dye give keyboard issues?

[ionic breach]

look thru briefly

[stone flax]

Okay

lets do a little science lesson

[late quest]

i'm ready

[stone flax]

what happens when a whole lot of ink and heat are pressed onto low quality plastic

[tawdry tree]

Eventually they will but it’ll take a while. The current switch in the prebuilt 60HE+ are Lekker L60 V1.5s.

[stone flax]

lets think

[late quest]

idk

[tawdry tree]

“let’s put on our thinking hats”

[late quest]

yo just explain gang i'm dumb

[stone flax]

bad

need me to clarify

?

bleed

saturation

shrinkage

scratching

discoloration

offset legends

uneven kerning

chipping

[loud zephyr]

bro, just get the Wolverine and replace them when the time comes

[ionic breach]

eh fk it

[loud zephyr]

Gmk is twice the cost smh

[ionic breach]

no :)

gmk evil dolch is half the cost

[loud zephyr]

huge sample there

[ionic breach]

it still is

[barren wasp]

comes with the v1.5 which doesn't have the better magnetics

but still has the reduced wobble

[stone flax]

Nope

[barren wasp]

is GMK even worth the premium pricing theres no way keycaps should be that expensive

[ionic breach]

no

[stone flax]

80 dollar for keycaps too expensive?

[barren wasp]

hell yes

[ionic breach]

its not worth it, but we still buy it

[late quest]

these?

[ionic breach]

so imagine a shit "branded" keycaps for $70

is razer mx?

[late quest]

these are dye keycaps?

[ionic breach]

no right?

[loud zephyr]

https://novelkeys.com/collections/gmk

and that’s just for base kits

[calm pulsar]

at least gmk is high quality and not goofy

[late quest]

yo razer keycaps are bad?

[fluid ravine]

@harsh dove what I meant

[loud zephyr]

He doesn’t want minimal. I encourage him to explore a bit

[late quest]

i thought buying keycaps should be easy, i never knew it gives keyboard issues and all bruh

i'm very new to this

[stone flax]

Hmmmm

Hmmmmm

[late quest]

i used to use roccat vulcan tkl pro and i never changed the stock keycaps

[stone flax]

Hmmm

[stone flax]

Hmmm

[calm pulsar]

stop posting boobs

[ionic breach]

i do think mjj is overblowing it a bit

but its still a bad idea to buy those

[loud zephyr]

yeah nice sale price, for sure

[stone flax]

Hmmm

Hmmmmm

Hmmmmmmmmm

[calm pulsar]

muh baby

[late quest]

so what kind of keycaps should i buy, fuck design i just want my keyboard to be safe

[stone flax]

70 bucks for wolverine

Or 14 dollars more for an actual potential endgame set

Answers clear to me

but hey you do you

[loud zephyr]

You paid that much for Wob design, fair price

[stone flax]

cope

[stone elbow]

buy x-ray

[calm pulsar]

figure out a color scheme and search for it, most double shot keycaps come without issues that mjj talked to you about

[ionic breach]

waiting for black xrays ngl

[loud zephyr]

I have plenty of gmk smh

[stone flax]

Its not wob

its off beige on black

or obbob

[stone elbow]

is it gonna be black on black?

[late quest]

double shot and double shot pbt are two different things?

[stone flax]

Thats the thing

Doubleshot abs

[ionic breach]

idk, not official

[stone flax]

Dyesub pbt

[ionic breach]

just what the people want and expect

[stone elbow]

ah gotcha

[stone flax]

Thats literally 80% of easy safe choices

Dyesub pbt

Doubleshot abs

can not be hard to find a set

U can get a nice shenpo/xmi/21kb for $30 to $50 bucks

[stone elbow]

what switch plate for the geon raw HE?

[ionic breach]

anything clackish

[late quest]

??

[latent quail]

the discount code doesnt work for 20% off lekker v2s?

[ionic breach]

double shot is a method

[stone flax]

? No

[ionic breach]

pbt and abs are types of plastic

[stone flax]

Double shot pbt is 98% of the time not full pbt

lol

But its a proccess

doubleshot just entails method

[stone elbow]

definitely not pc then... would fr4 work? it kinda in the middle of clack and thock

[calm pulsar]

I started looking more into gmk mtnu recently, I hear it is pure pbt

[stone flax]

2%

[calm pulsar]

fr4 clacks af, that chart is bs without knowing the rest of your build

[ionic breach]

just try it out first

and work from there

[stone flax]

its just a very simple “haha density = sound”

which is unrealistic

[stone elbow]

23$ shipping on a 15$ item 💀

[calm pulsar]

which is why I like aliexpress, not sure how expensive shipping to US usually is though 😄

[stone elbow]

i'm from canada, everything is more expensive here

[calm pulsar]

ah well, still worth checking out
kbdfans has an official store on aliexpress btw

there's also interesting stuff like full black fr4 which I've got from there and have in my current build

[stone elbow]

i thought aliexpress was the scam site, but i mixed up temu and ali lol

[calm pulsar]

well I ordered a ton of stuff from kbdfans, kprepublic and gateron, all that from their official ali stores

sometimes I would ask kbdfans to put something from their website on their ali store so I can buy it cheaper

[ionic breach]

bro is a nuisance

[stone elbow]

thank you for the tip, i'll buy things from china on ali now 👍

[ionic breach]

there are official sellers

in ali

[stone elbow]

yeah i know now

[calm pulsar]

frog arrived to US, now a couple of more weeks and its here

[fluid ravine]

yipeee

[polar girder]

@fluid ravine Or get the Kyedae mic https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08P7QTZM5

lol

[fluid ravine]

WHAT THE FUK

[polar girder]

Lolz

Looks sweet 😅

[naive heath]

Yall did I make a mistake

Does the wooting module come with stabilizers already?

[stone flax]

ya

[polar girder]

Yes

[naive heath]

Okay thank god

Only bought switches 😅

[polar girder]

And keycaps?

[naive heath]

Is there a guide out there for putting it together?

Yeah keycaps too

[polar girder]

Cool. And a case or nah?

It’s pretty plug and play. Just plop the switches on and then throw keycaps on top.

[naive heath]

Yep to the case haha

Okay, so the stabilizers which are “screw in” are literally screwed on already?

[polar girder]

Yeah just screw in the module to the case then throw in switches if you want. Or other way around

[naive heath]

Figured I’d lube anything now if necessary

Sickkkk build

[polar girder]

Yeah you’re good

https://youtu.be/-0i0XVWM0ig

[calm pulsar]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

sweet lord

[polar girder]

Yeah I’m digging the 461E bro

[fluid ravine]

yeah fr though

honestly a great looking case

imo

[polar girder]

It’s giving Fjell with accents

[fluid ravine]

ye ye

fjell with nipples

fjell

[polar girder]

Lolz

Told ya

[fluid ravine]

yupp

[polar girder]

Sexy time Fjell

[fluid ravine]

lul

budget fjell

[polar girder]

Fr

Pumped to hear sound tests

[stone flax]

its actally five degrees' son

[fluid ravine]

oh yeah you're not wrong

5 degrees but better?

[polar girder]

Same company same case. Makes sense

[stone flax]

yeah its an old case and this is more or less its new iteration/successor

[untold wigeon]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/186565140328?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=nd-pmlrbteu&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=8hmdpzngt6k&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[stone flax]

the acrylic one was nice

[fluid ravine]

@cold bloom

[stray tiger]

Love you @harsh dove been watching the stream but havent been able to type (twitch chat borked on my mobile sometimes)

[fluid ravine]

This is the thing i did yesterday with the shelf liner crap on the posts

[fluid ravine]

It flexes!!

but the outer keys sounds like shit esp my modifiers

@harsh dove

nah i cant with this 💀

[tidal frigate]

Vertical strap

[ionic breach]

quote of the month

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/rocket-rise-and-shine-ready-gif-17320685

Mooting-Jaku

[polar girder]

Oh cam streaming?

[fluid ravine]

yeah 😂

[ionic breach]

ye

[fluid ravine]

past like 2 hrs

2:34

[polar girder]

Oh that’s where that pic is from dang lol

[fluid ravine]

sheee

lol

[polar girder]

What’s his stream

I thought I was following it

[fluid ravine]

https://www.twitch.tv/camofflife

hes about to close the stream

[polar girder]

Got the follow in at least lol

Well what’s the verdict?

[tidal frigate]

Yes mooting

[fluid ravine]

Jades sounds like shit! (Jk)

[polar girder]

Ofc

[fluid ravine]

well it doesnt sound too bad, the silicone gasket works well

[harsh dove]

Much love man lol no worries

[tidal frigate]

I can't wait for Alumaze Mooting special edition with vertical strap

[harsh dove]

I published the VOD if you wanna skim thru it

[fluid ravine]

W

[jade storm]

https://soundcloud.com/ouijaboard/lil-peep-five-degrees

[potent wedge]

Where can I buy steel plate? Link please !

[harsh dove]

we forgot to install the feet on the Nipple Case

[fluid ravine]

...

[tawdry tree]

duck twitch, 0 notis 🥰🥰🥰🥰

how is it?

[tawdry tree]

perfect

[wraith widget]

Anyone found a difference between the many apparent krytox 205g0 (may or may not be authentic) for sale and actual authentic krytox stuff? Basically are they selling a bunch of duds online 😂

[cold bloom]

is this with the clothing mounts?

[left knot]

really stupid question, but how tf can I remap my function keys lmao

I can't figure it out in the software

[left knot]

So, I'm trying to set it to where my function keys are triggered by like.. shift + 1,2,3 etc

Is that possible or?

I see this for caps lock, but I wanna change it to shift lmao

[stone elbow]

i should be fine with stock screw in stabs with raw he if it's fine with jades before right?

[latent wraith]

do the majority of keycap sets come as ansi? as in will i have a problem finding iso uk sets?

[cold bloom]

@harsh dove

put my 50a oring back in my tofu case, fr4 plate, switch pad, no plate foam otherwise, and some case foam I flipped so it blocks the spacebar and middle standoff, then I screwed in just the 2 bottom corner screws cause my front row was kinda sitting weird

but screwed them in lightly so it doesn't get too pingy

[vast tree]

looking for some creamy linear switches, anyone got some suggestions?

[dire sage]

also looking for some switch recommendations, considering sticky rice vs geon raw; wondering how the latter is in terms of stem wobble

[stone flax]

raw on top

[stone flax]

mind sending the youtube video you decided "creamy" to mean

[vast tree]

uh cant really right now because my youtube or wifi is bugging

[static tendon]

What case is this?

[uneven cradle]

It will be easier to find ANSI keycaps - although UK ISO is not rare I'd say

[dire sage]

yeah everyone seems to be saying raw is solid, might just go with them

thanks

[spice plover]

those lekkar v2s hit hard

anyone have them?

[spice plover]

bro pls put that fake salvation away

[spice plover]

Raw HE on top and if u like the new V2 lekkars look good too they are both pre lubed so your good

[stone flax]

@potent root

he alr has it

tbh

raws on top

[spice plover]

you know its a party

when MJJ is here

[stone flax]

[spice plover]

honestly they sound like an improved V1 so

i really like the V1s no joke

very good switches

[stone flax]

just lekkers with cleaner sound/less chatter

[spice plover]

mjj what u working on lately

[dire sage]

yeah i cancelled my lekkar v2 order, sorta regret it now 💀

had them at half price with my 80he order

[spice plover]

honestly in my tofu i prefer the lekkars

[spice plover]

yeah i mean if u got RAW HEs ur good too but still

[dire sage]

yeah cost fk all tho, i shldve kept the order, i just didnt want it taking up space

oh well

raws shld be ok

ty

[spice plover]

yeah i love the Raws

[cold bloom]

lol wut

how is it a fake salvation

the tofu is the OG dz60 case LOL

[spice plover]

it just doesnt bounce the same xD

i swear this keyboard life changed everything

[stone elbow]

i'm still trying to decide on what bottom force i want on my raws

[spice plover]

playing any games on my new setup just feels more enjoyable

[spice plover]

bottom force?

[stone elbow]

bottom out force* forgot a word here

[spice plover]

what did use before and r u a soft typer or you go ham?

[stone elbow]

jades, so 50g bottom out, i can't tell if i'm a soft or hard typer

i am mistyping but idk if i can attribute that to light switches

[spice plover]

honestly i put 70G springs in mine personally

im a harder typer for sure

i really dont recommend going down under 60G unless u know your a softer typer or prefer that

i started to develop impact pain

from 50G

[dapper hazel]

wonder which springs are mostly taken/bought

[stone flax]

50

[dapper hazel]

with MX switches it used to be 52-67

or was it 68... zeal came out with those in between numbers and people stuck with it

[spice plover]

I really think 70s are perfect for most ppl

never mistype or not nearly as often. speed feels great still. no impact force

[naive heath]

Yall, which one sounds better?

Setting up tofu rn

[stone flax]

prefe with a side of rence

try both and neither

then say choose

[naive heath]

Hmm okay, I just want a muted sound right off the bat

But I’ll try both

[stone flax]

[latent kraken]

just me, or does the wooting switch toolkit have insane value

just the switch opener alone costs like 40CAD on amazon 💀

[fluid ravine]

KBD fans 461E

[ionic breach]

alternatively

the nipple case

[fluid ravine]

Lul

[stone elbow]

does this seem like soft typing or heavy typing?

[fluid ravine]

Soft

[stone elbow]

so i should stay on 50g bottom out force for my switches?

i do go ham on osu but no misinputs

[ionic breach]

yea why not, if you dont face any issues rn

[cold bloom]

no one said it did anyway LOL

[spice plover]

if you notice no pain ever when gaming or typing then ur good

most of the time you will KNOW if you need to change springs

[stone elbow]

gotcha, 50 it is

[vivid totem]

let us know which one is thockier... im doing the same thing rn

[spice plover]

cheater

this new wow expansion slaps

serious question. is there anyway I can make my MMO mouse 1-12 buttons input as if it was from my wooting instead so i can use the DKS features and stuff?

[stone flax]

?

6 dollars bro

[glacial wind]

Yeah I’m not sure what switch opener is $30-40. Usually they’re maybe $10 if you pick a fancy design one

[cold bloom]

Im not sure what you're talking about lol

[uneven cradle]

The fancy gateron one I have is $30 👀

[cold bloom]

did you see the gold plated one gateron sells? lmao

https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-puller-opener-keycap-puller-3-pcs-dragon-and-phoenix-tool-set-accessory

[spice plover]

actually worth it

[bold dragon]

any problems with actuation/flex with the PC plate?

[uneven cradle]

big baller collection

[cold bloom]

real

[spice plover]

nope

[fluid ravine]

Uh yeah the thing from yesterday

[cold bloom]

nice

sounds good

[bitter bronze]

hi whats a good website to browse for keycap sets? not really finding anything on amazon

[stone flax]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[bitter bronze]

ty

[fluid ravine]

yeah, even without case foam and all that

it's pretty good

sounds a bit like a tofu with it's hollowness but not crazy

[still zenith]

461E case showed up and omg it completes the look

[fluid ravine]

oh shiet another nipple case

damn what day timing

@harsh dove

OH NO NOT THE STRAP AS WELL

FUCK ME

[still zenith]

lol

had to add the strap

honestly its crazy how much a full metal case changes the sound of a keyboard

@fluid ravine

[celest dragon]

No way I discover this case the same day I assembled my keyboard bro 💀

It looks so nice

[still zenith]

you should see the inside

[harsh dove]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[still zenith]

the weights are so fucking pretty

[harsh dove]

Nipple cases unite

[still zenith]

OMG CAM HELL YEAH

[celest dragon]

The yellow and the brass 🤌

[still zenith]

different colors too

we need to collect the rest of the colors into the gang

[still zenith]

totally worth the wait hu? @harsh dove

[fluid ravine]

honestly nipple case crawling its way to my list rn

[harsh dove]

Yeah it’s pretty nice, I like it

[fluid ravine]

is it on AE?

kbdfans shipping $26 ;-;

it aint even dhl express xd

[still zenith]

i have tried a lot of diffent cases and i gotta say 461e is up there for best of the best

[latent kraken]

Bro, you're hurting Calder's feelings. What is you doinnnnnn

[paper bloom]

Dont u got a gasket option with the silicone mount

[still zenith]

yeah its okay

changes the sounds a huge amount tho

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[paper bloom]

O nice

[still zenith]

i didnt use it i just used my own gasket stand offs

it bouncy

[harsh dove]

It works pretty well tbh

and I like that you can take out the alphas piece

[still zenith]

should i give the silicone a try then?

[paper bloom]

I went back to my tofu case and its somehow comfortable again LOL

[paper bloom]

Im p sure they have a corner designs coming out

[still zenith]

i honestly didnt expect to run into someone using the same case this quickly XD

[harsh dove]

Yeah I'd try it out and see what you think at least

[still zenith]

[silver ingot]

I put GMK slasher on my frog

[cold bloom]

yeah it does sound a lot like my tofu tbh

I was really considering getting either the 461E case or the optimum collab case but after hearing how good the tray mount frog mini leggera sounds for the price I think I have to get that lol

but the 461E is a really cool design overall

[fluid ravine]

fr

leggera, optimum, and nipple is going on the list

[cold bloom]

I think I wanna get 2 of the leggeras given the price lol

not sure yet tho

I wanna build a neo65 really bad too, so many choices

[fluid ravine]

don't even know what i want lol

i just want to replace my case or just wrap my case cus of the scratches

[cold bloom]

I might get an oring mounted one too and get either a venom HE pcb or the venom MX pcb

it has built in macros for SOCD and stuff I think on the mx one LOL

although I'll probably just get a leggera t and maybe a venom pcb for that, then wait for the f2-60

that case is CLEAN

[ionic breach]

what is heat shrink colour?

for wiredin's custom cables

[fluid ravine]

ok nah what the absolute flip, $120 for the Gentleman WiredIn cable, what the fak

$129 for a luxe suede desk mat?!?!?! (Makes sense)

HAHA WHAT THE FL

[silver ingot]

ngl

[fluid ravine]

i scared

[silver ingot]

the price does make it seem more premium

[silver ingot]

idk how to describe it

[stone flax]

[fluid ravine]

is it expensive because it's premium or is it premium cus it's expensive

[silver ingot]

yes

[fluid ravine]

[silver ingot]

human brain hacked

[fluid ravine]

LOL

it's funny cus other topics with the same question is so much harder to think about

😂

but yeah no, you got me fked up with the price

[silver ingot]

you hate to see it

last shipping update was 10 days ago

[fluid ravine]

oh damn..

im still waiting on my keebmat :c

reeeeee

[languid forge]

looks sick

@fluid ravine

best keebmat for thock?

[fluid ravine]

Original

[languid forge]

this?

[fluid ravine]

Yes

Theres 2 types

[languid forge]

what are the types?

[fluid ravine]

The original, which is what ur looking at and premium felts which you can see when u scroll down

[languid forge]

is the premium felt the same just feels better? or does it produce a better thocky sound?

or the same with different material?

[fluid ravine]

oh shoot, i replied to this in the wrong chat

Keebs said in simple terms
Original: Thock
Felts: Clack

[languid forge]

👍

[glacial wind]

felt looks better, that's the important part

[stone flax]

the different materials is what causes this change

[fluid ravine]

i think keebs said the original is made out of foam and the felts is made with a stiffer material which makes it more premium or wtv

i dont have the exact details but yeah what sno said lol

[languid forge]

also

https://keebmat.com/products/thockfilm?variant=46703958688067

thoughts on poron switch films?

[glacial wind]

films not worth

[languid forge]

why not worth

just no difference really?

[glacial wind]

insanely finicky to install and if not done 100% right can cause issues with your HE accuracy

[languid forge]

ooh

scary

aight

no to switch films

[ionic breach]

anyone knows btw?

nvm i fking guessed it

[sage flicker]

wth, magnetic jade pro? I gotta look that up

ehh...seems minor upgrades. Easier insertion/removal of switches, lighting upgrades, and longer spring.

boo.

[glacial wind]

yeah overall most of us were not impressed with the listed upgrades

[glacial wind]

that's nothing. Try the $400 full leather deskmat from grovemade

[fluid ravine]

yeah im jumping off a trampoline

https://tenor.com/view/backflip-on-a-trampoline-failure-funny-gif-23309807

[silver ingot]

wow this is so ass

[fluid ravine]

i literally dont know how to feel about that

[silver ingot]

go on amazon and try to find the cheapest desk mats you can find. most of them are leather

[glacial wind]

i mean you're paying for really expensive materials basically with grovemade

same with their felt mat being actually merino wool even though there's no real benefit for most folks vs felt

[near barn]

is there anybody who has a UWU and was able to make the keypad function at a certain typing degree angle?

[silver ingot]

bumpons?

[near barn]

is that something you attach to the bottom i assume?

quick google search showed me that this may be a possible solution, thanks!

[silver ingot]

no problem!

[uneven cradle]

Different kind of switch lubing today

[silver ingot]

HE?

[uneven cradle]

The sticks are

[hollow parrot]

with the Geon Raw HE being 0.4mm less in travel, would this have affect on how it works with a wooting 80he with regards to analog sensitivy? Would i need different stablisers assuming it would be slightly smaller?

[fluid ravine]

0.5mm* and no it doesn't affect the analog of the board, it just means that you will bottom out 0.5mm shorter from a 4mm switch. You also don't need long pole stabs as those aren't ever a issue

[hollow parrot]

cheers 🙂

[cold bloom]

cognitive dissonance is really strong psychologically lol

we always expect things that are more pricey to be better and if they aren't like we expected them to be it kinda messes with you

[cold bloom]

LOL I never thought to do this

I have a few custom controllers from battlebeaver I really like

I also got the dualsense edge hoping that gullikit would make HE modules for it that would just swap in, but it turns out the calibration software for that controller isn't public so they only made them for the dualshock

[fluid ravine]

i hate you

pulls out dictionary 3

[harsh dove]

Swapped from CF to POM Plate and Regular Jades (Hand Lubed)

[fluid ravine]

hey that sounds better

charge your damn mouse @harsh dove

[harsh dove]

no

[fluid ravine]

it's crying for help right now

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/no-donkeys-shrek-gif-16041065

[fluid ravine]

oh damn that thang bouncy though

Yoink

[harsh dove]

Yeah I think it sounds a lot better

POM plates FTW

[fluid ravine]

yeah that POM really helped

idk if it was just the plate but the jades sounds a bit better as well

[harsh dove]

Well these are my regular hand lubed Jades

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[harsh dove]

Black Jades are stock

so they have a bit of spring ping

[fluid ravine]

oh that makes sense

kk

like imagine like lubing another set of jades

i could never

[polar girder]

i like

[fluid ravine]

im so triggered with the misalignments with some of my keys

like why arent my D F and H J not social distancing dafuq

[cold bloom]

LMAO

You wanna hate me even more? @fluid ravine

I can spell the longest word in the dictionary

pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis

[fluid ravine]

fk off

[cold bloom]

volcano lung dust disease

[fluid ravine]

well i can spell the shortest word

a

[cold bloom]

LOL

[fluid ravine]

take that

[cold bloom]

I used to write it on the chalkboard when people asked if I could actually do it

they didn't believe

[fluid ravine]

lol

one mispell is all it takes

[cold bloom]

yup lol

[fluid ravine]

Alright Gn modders

got less than 5 hrs of sleep til school.. yay..

[stone flax]

light work

i will stay awake into it

[deft turtle]

I paid someone to mod my wooting and put it into a tofu60 redux case

Sadly she forgot to change the port to the wooting side so it was misaligned

I tried to do it myself

But couldn’t screw the plate back into the case

Since I had burger mount and polyfill done

And now I’m too scared to send it back to her because it might get damaged in shipping

😭

And I lost some of the o rings also 😭

No I’m not buying materials myself to mod it and fix it

This is gonna be my only keyboard unless wooting release a 75 or 65%

And they have rapider fasterer trigger

[uneven cradle]

needed to do it unfortunately my switches were feeling real bad - feels much better now

was a bit of pain to pull apart just to lube some switches but hey if I have to open it up again I know how now

[dire delta]

I need new plates :)

[rich phoenix]

Does Durock make any long pole stabilizers? Or just normal 4mm total travel ones?

[orchid thunder]

they are the same but the max just has a dual rail structure according to redditor that was at the gateron expo on the 24th. The max is completly transparent / has no colour aswell

[late solstice]

Any update on the Optimum case?

[left depot]

[paper bloom]

Maybe after christmas

Or when the 80HEs stuff is done

[left depot]

We're aiming for this year, but thats as much info that I have/can share

[tidal frigate]

Well how I remember it was in production

[haughty frigate]

Hi guys! i building my first custom keyboard and worry to not to miss smth
I ll list what i buy please tell me is smth wrong or missing:
From kbdfans:
+Tofu60 Redux Case acrylic + Brass weight bar
+Carbon fiber ANSI Plate
From wooting site: Wooting 60HE+ Module ( ANSI United States PC Switch Plate)
+Wooting Double Shot Backlit PBT Keycap Set
From gatheron site: Gatheron Jade pro switches 70 pack

Is that all what i need to make my keyboard and it's good choices? will much appreciate advices
(Not sure if i need carbon plate. it will give any better sound/button use or mostly useless since i have plate in combo with wooting module buy?)

[calm pulsar]

consider getting geon raw he switches, they are similar to jades in what they are trying to achieve but are in higher regard for most active ppl here

[glacial wind]

60he module comes with a pc plate btw, so unless you just want carbon fiber plate then you don’t really need another plate

[sweet oak]

Todays the day, my 60 module is supposed to come in

[calm pulsar]

yeah the pc plate should be good, however note that the plate is white and you might at some point want a black plate for the looks

[calm pulsar]

naisu!

[sweet oak]

Gonna be a concrete grey with KKB alhambra caps, gonna be so nice

[calm pulsar]

concrete grey tofu redux? and im liking the colors on the keycaps

[sweet oak]

Alumaze