🔧│keyboard_modding

[devout torrent]

Yeah I’m definitely trying to get a leggera too

And build another He board

[thorny jetty]

oh are we talking about keycaps? I just logged on to ask a bit about them

Im deciding to go all out and buy the pbtfans emma, do you guys have any tips on how to make sure I secure myself a set?

[untold wigeon]

I want this but this seems like too much money.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/186565140328?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=nd-pmlrbteu&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=8hmdpzngt6k&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[thorny jetty]

the gem shape is really cool

[untold wigeon]

Agreed.

[spice plover]

There’s so many amazing keycap sets released it’s honestly overwhelming even just from gmk

[calm pulsar]

you're better off buying the new case from kbdfans

[spice plover]

Why these cases and not just a tofu purple lol ?

[devout torrent]

461e is closest equivalent

That you can get

[untold wigeon]

Yeah like $10 more. I love that other shape though.

[calm pulsar]

this one has an interesting mounting system, and maybe just for the looks

[spice plover]

Nice what’s the mounting system ?

[spice plover]

That’s amazing

[calm pulsar]

yeah its unique cause I rarely see any "gaskets" in the form of the plate silicone pad

[untold wigeon]

Tray mount with no standoffs

[rich phoenix]

Anyone have issues with acrylic adhesive backings on some painters tapes? I'm thinking of getting the 3m automotive masking tape instead of the blue since it uses rubber adhesive.

[untold wigeon]

Interesting

[calm pulsar]

it just has 4, 2 on each side, which is plenty for tray mount

and it looks like the standoffs are removable

[untold wigeon]

Looks like the pcb is laying on the case

[spice plover]

He literally just attached a gasket at the bottom lol?

Or am I not seeing it correctly

[untold wigeon]

Oh ok. Makes way more sense

[calm pulsar]

yeah I guess they don't show the standoffs specifically, but in the description it says that the "screw posts are removable"

[spice plover]

O the plate is a gasket

[neon tiger]

whats this

[calm pulsar]

which is also nice for friction mount as well

[quiet bay]

keycaps

[spice plover]

Weird

[calm pulsar]

nah the silicone pad

[spice plover]

I doubt it will do much

[neon tiger]

oh

images ?

[quiet bay]

https://geon.works/products/gmk-evil-dolch-the-split?variant=45136566190243

[spice plover]

Honestly the PC plate from wooting barely makes any difference other than sound

I want to put jellyfish 🪼 all over the bottom of the switch so when it bottoms out it feels squishy

[calm pulsar]

well ofc cause the plate doesnt really move around, it just alters the sound

[thorny jetty]

guys how urgent should I be about preordering keycaps? do they sell out quick?

[spice plover]

Jelly60

[neon tiger]

wtf its sold out

[spice plover]

Yeah if u group buy now you’ll get it in 8 months I think

[thorny jetty]

Im trying to figure out if I should be camping out the whole day on the site to wait on the email

[thorny jetty]

o no im not talking about the evil dolch, its a different set im interested in

its not out yet

[spice plover]

You have insane patience I could never wait for anything that long

[neon tiger]

did u manage to buy it

[thorny jetty]

its available for preorder on the 30th and its for my 80HE so ig I can wait it out

[spice plover]

I mean gmk has released like 300 sets by now or something lol has to be a few you like

Idk I was looking at the Reddit recap of all gmk caps I was like O.o

[thorny jetty]

yea but these pbtfans emma, I love

love at first sight

[spice plover]

Nice set I just saw it

[calm pulsar]

pbtfans emma is awesome

[spice plover]

Green is so underused I swear

[thorny jetty]

my fav color is green

[spice plover]

Everyone always does black and red or black and white

[thorny jetty]

so I need this one

[thorny jetty]

I LOVE THE TAIGA

the colors is chefs kiss

[calm pulsar]

yuhh

[thorny jetty]

I just dont understand the language

[spice plover]

Super cool

[calm pulsar]

im from russia and I live in a taiga area so this is perfect for me lol

[thorny jetty]

I tried to google gmk taiga in english 😂

[thorny jetty]

congrats mane

[quiet bay]

nah there's no group buy yet

it starts on september 5

[calm pulsar]

apparently they had a latin kit planned but cancelled it

[thorny jetty]

dang

[calm pulsar]

cause there are renders with it

[thorny jetty]

If I cant get emmas im down to just settle with taigas if I can find a set

[spice plover]

I swear 1/2 the time I see a new build it’s always those sasuke look alike keycap sets

[calm pulsar]

haha true

[spice plover]

Is there any gmk set or something that has spirited away

That anime has a special place in my heart

[neon tiger]

ohh

says sold out

i was like wtff

whats a group buy tho u have to buy it with others ?

[calm pulsar]

looks like there is a Haku set, GMK Haku, but seems to have ended long ago

[quiet bay]

a group buy is like

a pre order

before production actually starts

[spice plover]

Bro that set is green and looks awesome too

[neon tiger]

oh

do u think it looks good

[calm pulsar]

yeah I like the greenish color on white on alphas

[quiet bay]

imo yes

and it's way cheaper than the usual gmk sets

[neon tiger]

dayum

even comes with a mousepad

i kind fk wit it too

looks dope

[quiet bay]

yee

but no idea when you'll actually get it tho

cause it takes kinda long

[neon tiger]

what do u think of the illuminati logo one

hahahaha

[neon tiger]

fr ? tf

[spice plover]

Takes months to get

[neon tiger]

btw, the rest that are stated as sold out are actually sold out right ? LOL

[spice plover]

Just look at all the gmk sets there’s so many I’m sure you can find something you like not sold out

🤷‍♀️

[quiet bay]

I would personally wait for it tho xd

[spice plover]

Don’t listen to pochi

[quiet bay]

not that expensive for the 60% one

[quiet bay]

D:

[spice plover]

He has like 30 gmk sets

[quiet bay]

erm

[neon tiger]

dayum

i kinda like this red one tho

[spice plover]

Can afford to wait 8 months while swapping them in and out

[neon tiger]

maybe i will get it

[quiet bay]

the only keycap set i have are ceramic keycaps sadly 😔

[calm pulsar]

I think Pochi is a she and pretty sure she has cerakeys only 😄

[spice plover]

😮

A girl without pink or purple keycap sets

Nah

[quiet bay]

believe it or not pink and purple are my least favorite colors 😂

dark purple is nice though

[spice plover]

Idk why I like pink sets so much

But too embarrassing to have friends see that

[stark osprey]

Been looking at the 461E for awhile, interesting case, but those exterior brass accents kinda kill the look for me. Rest of the case is shaped nicely though.

[spice plover]

Other than the darling set but too expensive

[calm pulsar]

yeah I like the idea of the mounting system and removable standoffs but not a fan of the look personally

[quiet bay]

nah get what you like

[calm pulsar]

but its great that kbdfans always has a good selection of colors

[stark osprey]

Yea for sure, suppose could just spray paint the brass to color match the rest of the case.

[quiet bay]

and nicknamed the nipple case

[calm pulsar]

yeah lol

they also had some community design thing going on for the "nipples" 😄

maybe there will be extra colors purchaseable

[quiet bay]

but hot damn the evil dolch with the frog mini leggera looks so good

[calm pulsar]

yeah looks good with the black frog

there will also be a red color for the case I think

might look great too

[quiet bay]

im really wondering if I should ditch my klippe t for the frog mini leggera

e white

if there is one

cause im thinking about vinyl wrapping the sides on an e white frog mini leggera black

crap i think there's only silver

D:

[calm pulsar]

that might turn out very nice, almost like if you had the frog mini but the 2 pieces of the case would be diff colors

[quiet bay]

yeah was thinking smth like this

but

I think the closest to white is silver 😭

[calm pulsar]

the silver can look white from certain angles, but yeah

those are leggera

[broken cape]

focusrite solo 3rd gen, but as i said, power decoupled with an ifi idefender+ and a separate psu for it

[quiet bay]

if I got a part time job I could probably get some shop to give it an e-white coating

and heck maybe even laser engrave some cool design on it

[calm pulsar]

if you ended up winning the keyboard that Erik built on stream, maybe you could trade it for a leggera, or for way more stuff/money since the case looked pretty expensive

[quiet bay]

honestly I still dont even know what I won

Raquel did dm me

but she might respond back monday or smth

[calm pulsar]

would be cool if you won that keeb
the case is made of concrete lol

and has lekker v2s

(I believe)

[quiet bay]

I might just yoink them out and take it for myself lmfao

[calm pulsar]

yeah pretty sure they showcased the lekker v2s

[steep cape]

Is it even a good idea to put tape on the pcb? It seems like a popular mod but I’ve seen some people saying not to do it on nicer keyboards cause it could damage them

[broken cape]

it could only be bad if you used a tape which is a little bit conductive

so you don't want to use cheap tape which has solvent and monomer residues in their adhesive part

a good indicator for that is your nose :)

[steep cape]

So 3 layers of electrical tape should be fine?

[broken cape]

i would use painters tape as recommended by most

electrical tape comes in very thin sizes, it is made to stretch, it will most likely peel off and can possibly also leave annoying residue xD

[steep cape]

Good to know thanks!

[untold wigeon]

i bet there's a pre-cut film for a 60% board that you can purchase somewhere

[broken cape]

https://keebmat.com/products/keebtape#
you bet :P

[untold wigeon]

ye

figured

its $10 bucks though

dang

yeah just use painters tape lmao

[fluid ravine]

@harsh dove nipple case?

[elfin garnet]

About to buy a red Frog Mini with all this included for 300$

In pristine condition

[devout torrent]

Nice

[stone flax]

ooh not bad

[devout torrent]

What color?

[elfin garnet]

RED

[stone flax]

6 plates and one pcb

[untold wigeon]

man the cherry mx purples kinda suck considering they break keycaps

[stone flax]

geon trimmer or cruciformer

[untold wigeon]

i dont have that

[steep cape]

Wait wtf

[elfin garnet]

I already have the silver, but I want another one to build another Wooting in black so I can put Cosmos on it. I will spray paint it

[untold wigeon]

but they really arent anything special even if they didnt break keycaps

[steep cape]

Ive never heard of those lol

[untold wigeon]

just a weakly tactile, mildly scratchy mx2a

the springs dont crunch though so i suppose theres that

[stone flax]

the stem has a nub that was designed to keep keycaps in place, they never changed the molds for em so in this day and age they just loosen and split the stems

[elfin garnet]

Yeah I only need the case really, but he wants to sell it together. It's the only one in my country so I think it's the cheapest and best option I have. Don't have to pay for expensive shipping + tax

[steep cape]

Don’t most people just stick to red/blue/browns when choosing cherry

[untold wigeon]

yes

unfortunately

[steep cape]

are the other ones any good?

[untold wigeon]

although most people who are into custom keyboards nowadays dont buy cherrys

because they kinda suck

most clone manufacturers do it better

[steep cape]

My k95 came with silver speeds but my 60he+ module is coming tomorrow

[stone flax]

blacks are reds, greens are blues, silvers are reds, grays are brown

theyre all the same three archetypes

Just spring swapped mostly

[untold wigeon]

to be heavier yes

[stone flax]

Clears actually have a stronger bump tho

[untold wigeon]

cherry mx gray are rarely used as a spacebar switch for mx brown keyboards

never really seen one out in the wild

[stone flax]

i used that for a bit

before spring swapping to something better and going to clears for sb

[untold wigeon]

im eager to get my hands on some cherry mx orange and cherry nixies

[stone flax]

Oh yeah

Nixies too

[untold wigeon]

they seem interesting and ive heard the nixies are great

[stone flax]

Actually matters

[untold wigeon]

or at least as good as the vint nixies

[stone flax]

milky tops a bit deeper than blacks

[stone flax]

vint nixies are rare

like actual nixdorf blacks

[untold wigeon]

yes

very very expensive

like $10/switch

or something like that

[stone flax]

vint chasers are kinda wacko, atleast outside of regular blacks

like ur hirose oranges are not worth that much g

[untold wigeon]

vint blacks are supremely overrated considering that we have methods like diamond polishing and automated break-in

[stone flax]

nah broooo its better when not artificial ! ! !

[untold wigeon]

they're just valuable because they're rare

[stone flax]

[untold wigeon]

hirose oranges sound like vint blacks

they're all very similar switches that are just rare

[stone flax]

they literally are the same switch given equal break in

[untold wigeon]

yes

[stone flax]

only slight diff in topout

Due to spring weight

[untold wigeon]

if you're a switch/vint keyboard collector I understand, but if you really dont care there's no point in buying them

[stone flax]

yeah i can see that

[untold wigeon]

just get the modern equivalents which are likely better in the first place

[stone flax]

but otherwise why not just get easier to get polished+bi hg’s

Lol

Most likely cheaper too

[untold wigeon]

diamond polishing is expensive/time consuming

most people just buy diamond polishing services off mechmarket

i really want to diamond polish my nmb space invaders somehow but that would require desoldering them which i really dont have time for

[stone flax]

you got some?

[untold wigeon]

yes i do

i have two NOS boards with the linear white version :)

they are scratchier than i thought they would be stock honestly

[stone flax]

got pics ?

[untold wigeon]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1277030985774399498

[rocky geyser]

https://www.keychron.com/products/gateron-double-rail-magnetic-switch?variant=40784600694873 Are those compatible with a Wooting?

I was interested in their K2 HE Kickstarter, and I like the idea of a stable double-rail, but not sure if they are A) compatible, and B) if they are all that much more stable than Jade switches.

[stone flax]

nope

those are 37c’s

[untold wigeon]

What makes a switch incompatible with wooting keyboards?

[stone flax]

in this case magnet orientation

[untold wigeon]

Ah ok

[stone flax]

biggest divide between ks20 and ks37 family he

[untold wigeon]

Just a different polarity facing the sensor I'm assuming

[devout torrent]

These are even worse

Because they’re not compatible with other KS-37C

Keychrons are the opposite polarity

And also not wooting compat because the magnet orientation

[stone flax]

complete yikes

[devout torrent]

Extremely cursed

Yeah avoid keychron

For HE

[stone flax]

keycooked

[untold wigeon]

Do they even offer their HE switches in decent chassis?

Or is it just the K-whatever in the nasty plastic chassis

[rocky geyser]

I see. Do you think the double-rails are even more stable than the Jades. For the HE's, it's the wobble that really gets me. Looks/sounds like it's firm and thocky (The Keychron K2 HE). I don't know, maybe get one anyawy and see for myself.

[stone flax]

not really

jade e minis dont really do that much

honestly

dustproof and dual rail are just lazy cope methods that gateron does cause they cant be bothered

just… oh idk… improve the housing tolerances??

wait ion think gaterons does dustproofs

For he

[rocky geyser]

So currently there is no real solution to the lack of firm/stable keys?

[stone flax]

i j said it

improve molds

for less wobble

[rocky geyser]

I mean, currently available.

Given HE is increasing in popularity, whatever the answer is, it won't be too far off.

[stone flax]

raws are still the best imo

unless jade pros improved enough

they seemingly did do diff housings for it

so maybe

[rocky geyser]

Do you have a link to Jade pros?

[stone flax]

[untold wigeon]

I would just get gw raws

[stone flax]

tbh ^

A dollar a switch is disgusting

[fluid ravine]

Is anybody interested on buying a keebmat, i have a 10% coupon if anyone wants it

[untold wigeon]

I already have mine :]

but thanks for the offer

[flat cobalt]

Really making use of those emojis lol

[stone flax]

[jade storm]

:((

[austere creek]

not like headers modify emoji size

[stone flax]

is cheaping ship for us?

Oops

Is shipping cheap

[steep cape]

[untold wigeon]

Its probably just USPS priority mail or something

So probably mid-priced

Yeah it's about $6.50 for me

[fluid ravine]

yeah

it was $6.7 for me for expedited shipping

and $6.2 for normal

[untold wigeon]

I would use a keebmat more often but most of my keyboards are way too large lol

Which really is a shame because most of them don't have rubber feet

[stone flax]

hmmm

ill take it if possible

[jade storm]

mj deserves it

[fluid ravine]

ill send in dms

[rocky geyser]

Sorry to pester, but do you have a best place to buy them? I know of their site, and they have several offerings, but I don't think they're sold elsewhere iirc.

[untold wigeon]

That's the only place I know of to get them. Whats wrong with their site?

[quiet bay]

if ur NA they sent some to Divinikeys but they're out of stock now

they need to restock on raws

[rocky geyser]

Thanks. I don't mind buying direct and supporting their work, but you peeps are well informed and though I'd ask. Any suggestions on type?

[quiet bay]

50g is the most popular it seems

[untold wigeon]

50g are close to mx reds weighting if that means anything to you. I would get the lightest weighting you can if you're focused more on gaming. If you're more of a typist go for something more mid-weighted

[quiet bay]

honestly tho

i got 3 50g ones sent to me

[paper bloom]

Nice

[quiet bay]

and they feel really nice

[rocky geyser]

Hmmm, thanks again.

[quiet bay]

switch taped v1 lekkers vs the raw he

and heck it's a huge difference

[untold wigeon]

by "feel really nice" do you mean they feel smooth or that they have good weighting

or both

[quiet bay]

both for me

I liked the weight

and yeah they feel buttery smooth

u honestly dont need to lube it

[untold wigeon]

light linears can be good, i just dont like my switches to be so light that they actuate when i look at them the wrong way, so i tend to go for somewhere around 60g weighting

[untold wigeon]

yeah smoothness isnt an issue with HEs most of the time

[quiet bay]

then go for 60g if u want 👍

[untold wigeon]

i also dont do any serious gaming

[paper bloom]

Dont get 60g LOL

Get 50 or 40

[paper bloom]

60 has 2 much rebound n stiffness and if u cant identify the

Keys ur fucked

[quiet bay]

i like 60g tbh tho 🤔

[untold wigeon]

60g weighting is typically better for me since im more heavy-handed

[paper bloom]

I mean i like it too

But ive bumped into thos

This*

Issue like 3 times while gaming LOL

[quiet bay]

i wouldn't mind going 50g cause it feels like im typing on clouds

[untold wigeon]

if you're a serious gamer and split second inputs matter then i would go as light as possible

within reason obviously

dont go for like 35g or something

[paper bloom]

Ig its personal preference

[paper bloom]

I legit wanted to get a 50 but they didnt sell it and dont wanna passout the moment

So i said fuck it LOL

[untold wigeon]

60g springs on a gaming-centered board probably wouldnt be too comfortable lol

[paper bloom]

I might as well train my fingers

[quiet bay]

I dont get how some people still want lighter than 45g because it's too heavy for them 😭

[paper bloom]

And then use light switchws

[polar girder]

Gang

[paper bloom]

Some ppl have fucked up epbows

Elbows*

[quiet bay]

actually I would get it if you had like a condition or smth

[paper bloom]

Also 60g is e z to game with

[polar girder]

lol dang

[paper bloom]

So long as ur used to the weight

[polar girder]

Y’all some haters

[paper bloom]

Wat bigs

[polar girder]

Must be broken to use light springs, huh?

[untold wigeon]

nothing wrong with light springs

[paper bloom]

I love light n heavy but id prefer light esp when the timing counts

[polar girder]

Only the weak, frail and diseased need apply

[paper bloom]

Ive been using l45

[polar girder]

L45 so heavy bro

[paper bloom]

Wdym LOL

[polar girder]

Jk lol

[paper bloom]

Loool

@polar girder frijoles is mods

More*

Sigma than us

He has a 100g raw HE

@untold wigeon @quiet bay ^

[quiet bay]

ye

[paper bloom]

He legit has cerakeys with 100g

His legit insane

[untold wigeon]

100g is a bit much for me lol

[quiet bay]

he gave me some 100g springs

to put on my stabs

[paper bloom]

LOOP

LOOL*

[quiet bay]

I put it on every stab except my left shift

[paper bloom]

Jesus

U boutta use that rebound

[untold wigeon]

are you a right shift guy or left shift guy

[quiet bay]

Left shift

[paper bloom]

Im a left

[untold wigeon]

ah

[polar girder]

35g is goated tho

[untold wigeon]

i use left too

[quiet bay]

I just need to hold the left shift down more

and erm

100g I kept

letting go of it on accident

[paper bloom]

U got that phantom

Shift press

LOL

[untold wigeon]

man you must slam those keys down if 100g is comfortable

[paper bloom]

Imagine using 2kg

Springs

[quiet bay]

honestly it's pretty comfy on the other stabs once u get used to it xd

Im loving it on my spacebar rn

[paper bloom]

Ye

[quiet bay]

😨

[untold wigeon]

i can barely take the 60-70g spacebar on my mnb space invaders keyboard

are you using 100g everywhere or just the mods

[quiet bay]

just the mods

[untold wigeon]

oh ok then

[quiet bay]

I think I'd rather have 50g raws on my alphas xd

[untold wigeon]

that's slightly more understandable

i thought you had it on all your alphas lol

[quiet bay]

hek no im not built like holy frijoles

[untold wigeon]

you have me wondering if i should get 50g raws just to try them out

[quiet bay]

well imo raws are best sounding switch rn

and probably nicest feeling too

[untold wigeon]

yes that's what ive heard

i dont have my 80he in quite yet anyways so ill wait till then to order raws

[quiet bay]

the switches themselves are pretty inexpensive

it's just geon shipping

[untold wigeon]

arent they like $60 for 100 or something

[quiet bay]

but it's really fast shipping tho

people got it in like 2 days

[quiet bay]

no

48 cents a switch

[untold wigeon]

O

Mustve been thinking of another switch

there's too many to keep track of nowadays

[quiet bay]

yeah

used to be like

no he switches at all 😭

just the lekkers

[untold wigeon]

there used to be

lekkers

and uhhh

the basic gateron ones that came with keychrons and stuff

[steep cape]

with shipping probably

[quiet bay]

whatever gateron released

[untold wigeon]

yes

[quiet bay]

and then the raptors

[untold wigeon]

did the jades even exist until recently

[quiet bay]

if you get a vendor native to your region it should be cheaper 👍

[untold wigeon]

i dont remember them the last time i checked

[quiet bay]

I think they've existed for a pretty long time

jades were the meta

now raws are the meta ngl

[untold wigeon]

to be fair i havent really been keeping up with HE stuff until I started looking at the 80he

[quiet bay]

fair

[untold wigeon]

I knew of it and had seen a few boards but never really looked into it

[quiet bay]

HE market still new

hopefully nicer switches to come :))

[untold wigeon]

they're already pretty nice to be fair

you dont have as much of an issue with smoothness as you do with normal contact-based switches

[quiet bay]

ye

[quiet bay]

and you dont have to worry about how long the switches will last either tbh

[untold wigeon]

manufacturers get much more middling differences between switches if they use different materials and such like contact-based switches have been doing recently

so i bet that has a lot to do with it

[untold wigeon]

lol. I love my all 100g keeb. Keeps me strong and beautiful

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[jade storm]

meeeeeeee

[frigid lodge]

has anyone tried out the TTC Magneto switches yet?

I saw they basically have 0 stem wobble, so that piqued my interest

[untold wigeon]

no but their sliders look kinda funky :]

[frigid lodge]

The stems? Yeah

"ancient chinese architecture" tech lol

[untold wigeon]

i just got to that part in his review haha

[frigid lodge]

unfortunately, they're a dollar a switch

[untold wigeon]

not surprising honestly

they do have an entirely new switch design and have two-part stems

[stone flax]

@harsh dove raws gooood

got em in

raptors

raws

frog mini, 80a tadpoles, hypekeyboard pp plate, knight v2's

[untold wigeon]

raws sound so much better

much lower pitched

the raptors sound a lot more plastic-y

[stone flax]

id actually say theyre much higher pitched compared to raptors

just that the raptors sound more hollow making raws come off more solid

[untold wigeon]

yes they do sound more hollow

[frigid lodge]

which spring did you get on the raws?

[stone flax]

60g

wouldve gone 50g if they had them instock

but it doesnt really bother me

[untold wigeon]

i think the raws sound deeper but maybe that's just more full-ness

[stone flax]

deffo

[frigid lodge]

wow, the price on those isn't bad

I got the raptor switches when I bought my PCBA

I wonder how the 40g spring will feel

[stone flax]

i think top out wont be as pronounced

but the same sound almost

[frigid lodge]

welp, divinikey is sold out lol

shipping from geonworks directly is like 25 of god's own dollars

[untold wigeon]

its basically expedited shipping

[frigid lodge]

I get that, but there's no other option haha

[untold wigeon]

welp

if you want raws it seems the only option is ordering through geon atm

[frigid lodge]

I may just order jades

[flat cobalt]

I like my jades

[languid forge]

nice ceramic keys, sound test please

[flat cobalt]

Jade gang

[untold wigeon]

#1 Cerakey with Raw

#2 Cerakey with Dash/Jade

@languid forge ⬆️⬆️⬆️

[pulsar schooner]

How slick are the cerakeys? Also how much of a fingerprint magnet are they, lol

[marsh saffron]

Yes

[dire apex]

More grippy than pbt

The finger prints aren’t very noticeable imo

[marsh saffron]

What

Dawg you are the only person I have EVER seen say this

[dire apex]

Maybe it’s the humidity where I’m at but mine don’t feel slick at all

[marsh saffron]

Definitely a humidity/lack of sweat thing then

Almost everyone I talked to says they are slippery asf

[dire apex]

Wack lol ig I’m lucky

[quiet bay]

honestly the only fingerprint magnet really is the black ones

cause they're the most noticeable

also they're not that slick I'd say

just get used to them and you'll use them like normal keycaps

[dire apex]

They do feel a bit weird to game with tho at first

Imo at least

[untold wigeon]

Mine are not slippery at all. Indigo is a massive fingerprint magnet. Yellow not so much.

[untold wigeon]

Yes at first but that goes away

[dire apex]

Yeah I got used to it after a day or so

[untold wigeon]

Same

[dire apex]

I think they’re worth it for the sound but feel wise I prefer pbt

[marsh saffron]

I wanted to get cerakeys but was told they are slippery asf and the legends are obviously an issue

I don't want blanks

[untold wigeon]

I don’t know, something so satisfying about placing your fingers on cold keycaps. lol.

[dire apex]

Yeah the coldness does feel good lol

[dire apex]

Worth a shot imo

[marsh saffron]

Went pbtfans xray

Don't regret it

[untold wigeon]

I haven’t had either issue. V2 legends are fine. I’ve had mine since last April.

[quiet bay]

yeah whatever darker color is more of a fingerprint magnet

[marsh saffron]

They are also like 200 cad, for something I'll have a decent chance of not liking

[untold wigeon]

Life is too short to own 1 set of keycaps. This is why the good lord made keycap pullers.

[quiet bay]

wow

I just waited for a sale

and boom

20% off

[dire apex]

They are hella expensive tbh

[untold wigeon]

Sell em for roughly the same amount.

[quiet bay]

and didnt buy full kit so that'd be cheaper

[dire apex]

True

[untold wigeon]

200 cad is like 145 freedom dollars

[dire apex]

In the lighting mines in I can’t really see any

[untold wigeon]

Smart. Took me my first set to learn that. lol

[dire apex]

Gotta put it directly in the light at a good angle to really see em

[quiet bay]

oh no 😭

[untold wigeon]

What color you have?

[quiet bay]

I got the kits cause I wanted white and black

[dire apex]

Black

[untold wigeon]

Nice

[quiet bay]

ye in the dark you cannot see the fingerprints at all

[untold wigeon]

I was close to getting crazed but very happy with indigo

[quiet bay]

I was going to wait for white crazed but

it looked grey-ish

[pulsar schooner]

A blue smoke xray would be an insta buy from me

[dire apex]

💀

[quiet bay]

i mean

I dont mean complete darkness 😭

[dire apex]

I just meant at like a normal angle in the light u can’t see it

[quiet bay]

damn wth it's supposed to be darker than this

[marsh saffron]

that would look clean

[quiet bay]

i like the translucent borders of the xray set

[marsh saffron]

same

with the white

its so good

[quiet bay]

yee

now im thinking about how that would look if it was blank 🤔

[untold wigeon]

My indigo ones have very slight light bleed through. Yellows have a lot.

[lone plume]

may i ask if the two he pcb compatible with the other market gasket mount?

[untold wigeon]

One of my favorite sets are the artifact blooms.

Love those things

[marsh saffron]

basically reversed pudding caps

[steep cape]

woah this looks interesting

[marsh saffron]

those look cool

[pulsar schooner]

I wish they had more creative glaze colors. I used to do a ton of pottery, and some glazes are just stunning. Limited drops with kinda out there or fancy colors would be sick

[untold wigeon]

Totally different. I’ve owned both. But I can see what you mean

[pulsar schooner]

Not really, you can get some custom made but they are super pricey

[steep cape]

is it ever too bright/distracting?

[untold wigeon]

No not really

[lone plume]

ah. you know the screw holes doesnt align with the mount right?

i mean with the gasket

i bought the poron foam 108 at amazon which can fit to the two he original plate and pcb

[pulsar schooner]

Two he pcb is not standard with any cases on the market currently

[lone plume]

only the screw hole cut out is different so need to modify

[lone plume]

Can I ask what is not standard? In term of dimensions wise or ?

[drifting bronze]

@broken cape my headset broke wich should i get and i dont really want to buy a amp so a gaming headset or the senheiser hd560s

[polar girder]

560s

Goated

But if you want all in one get pc38x

[languid forge]

does anyone know any good custom keyboard cables

that are compatible with wooting

or are all of them compatible with wooting?

[stone flax]

u just need usb type c that can power the board lol

[languid forge]

sick

any good websites for cables?

or any that look like this

[stone flax]

Spacecables

Lemo

[languid forge]

^

[uneven cradle]

Most cables will work just not all of them will work with Tachyon on at full RGB brightness

[languid forge]

cable nice

[languid forge]

some affect RGB?

[stone flax]

not enough power

[languid forge]

ah

y not just make it more powerful lol?

[warped pewter]

chat, this is epic.

upvote this

[languid forge]

goated

[stone flax]

https://spaceholdings.net/products/design-your-own-cable?

[pulsar schooner]

It’s a non standard mounting holes. The pcb does not just drop into other cases, as it’s not based on the standard 108 form factor

I have one and have been looking for a custom case and I eventually just gave up

[flat cobalt]

@polar girder I don't think I'm gonna get the artisans after all

[lone plume]

yeah that i agree with. the mounting hole is all over the place

[pulsar schooner]

I mean just bite the bullet and get an amp. Your options on headphones open up sooooo much, even the IEM route

[lone plume]

i have just received my two he and attempt to mod

[drifting bronze]

What amp is good.

[lone plume]

found out those mounting hole is hell hole lol

[rich phoenix]

I don't think any of the double magnetics are compatable with the wooting

[pulsar schooner]

What is your budget?

[drifting bronze]

100 or under

[rich phoenix]

jades are a solid. Minimal stem play and personally I light the marbley clack.

[pulsar schooner]

For a good dac- amp combo you can’t go wrong with ifi

https://headphones.com/products/ifi-audio-zen-air-dac?_pos=1&_sid=cceb66720&_ss=r

Good all in one solution, Xbass is actually a really nice, analog bass boost. I have another of their products and it’s a nice value add

[signal saffron]

Schiit magni amp+dac is much nicer imo

[pulsar schooner]

It’s more than $100, that’s why I didn’t suggest.

Fulla is a good option too for just $9 over budget, and is gamer focused. https://www.schiit.com/products/fulla-2

But yeah for $189 you can get the magni as an amp+dac

[hard flower]

Is there a specific actuation point that's recommended for Jades?

[polar girder]

lol what you mean

[polar girder]

Yeah I’m rocking 560s and ifi zen v2 DAC/amp and loving it

[quartz galleon]

how we looking

[calm pulsar]

niiiice

[pulsar schooner]

I run a JDS Labs Atom 2 stack with DCA Æon 2 Noire’s.

Then an iFi go blue with Røde nth-100’s at the office

[flat cobalt]

The new iPhone comes out next month and I don't wanna drop like 300 dollars on the 3 artisan cosmos

[untold wigeon]

iPhone will lose 64% of its value in 2 years. Caps will hold their value. Think about it

[quartz galleon]

depends

[rich phoenix]

Just keep your current phone. I'm gonna keep my 13mini till the battery inflates and kills me

[calm pulsar]

same with 12 mini 😄
kinda sucks they stopped releasing minis

[spiral anvil]

Dongle is probably best bet sub 100

[idle cape]

recommended keycap site?

[uneven cradle]

Most unpopular model by quite a lot unfortunately

[pulsar schooner]

And they don’t have plans to do so for next couple gens either. But apparently they are working on a “slim” for next year

[spiral anvil]

Fosi DS1 and Hiby FC4 are my recs

[pulsar schooner]

They dropping the plus regulars as well

[flat cobalt]

[flat cobalt]

I don't want my S24U anymore just wanna go back to iOS

[pulsar schooner]

They will probably run a promotion for a fat trade in, probably can get even more perks and maybe a free phone with a carrier switch too

[flat cobalt]

I'm locked up with Verizon since I have one of the older plans ;3;

[pulsar schooner]

Grandfathered dirt cheap unlimited plan?

[rich phoenix]

sadly only a few of us bought them. I was saw like a box of 13minis unsold at my local best buy

[flat cobalt]

I get true unlimited data with no throttle and Disney Plus, Hulu, and ESPN for free

[quiet bay]

Audio Jack back when 😢

[flat cobalt]

[pulsar schooner]

Ah so not tooo long ago.

[flat cobalt]

Yeah I think they got rid of it last year

[calm pulsar]

yeah, I just personally don't really watch a lot of content on my phone and appreciate a smaller phone in hand

but I guess this is not popular at all these days

[pulsar schooner]

They keep threatening I’ll loose my military discount if I don’t switch off that one, but I’ve had them for 20 years so I’ll call and they back off

[flat cobalt]

They're so dumb sometimes trying to push their shitty plans

[pulsar schooner]

“More choice, only pay for what your want but oh wait if you want all your getting right now on the new plan it’s like and extra $60 a month”

[marsh saffron]

icky

[rich phoenix]

Are the KPrepublic Jade keycaps any good? Was gonna either order a set or a cheapo one off amazon.

[polar girder]

lol ok fair i just upgraded last year so i'm chilling

[flat cobalt]

I'll probably cave but who knows

[pulsar schooner]

My 13 pro max is down to 78% max battery, so 16 pro max it is, here’s to hoping it will hold me for the next 3 gens again

[flat cobalt]

Same I'm hoping to use it for a few years

[steep cape]

https://youtu.be/8pqR7HeCQdQ?si=kWGRD9grwWNcnyEQ

How can I intentionally make my keyboard sound like this

[languid forge]

dude

I just got my artisan mousepad

but I only bought it cuz my old mousepads just got dirty really quick

so I got a artisan cuz u can clean it properly

BUT DUDE IT ACTUALLY HELPS WITH AIM

LIKE SIGNIFICANTLY

[pulsar schooner]

A control pad will do that

[languid forge]

artisan zero soft

the stopping pad

my aim is so much better

[jade storm]

what did you think

high quality pad

[stark osprey]

Came from a Raiden, went Wallhack. Team glass supremacy 🤘

[languid forge]

idk I thought it would maybe feel better and give a slight performance

but you can actually tell a significant improvement

and 100% better feel

[pulsar schooner]

If they made a full desk pad sized one I would buy instantly, but alas they don’t

[jade storm]

TEAM GLASS

[tired frigate]

TEAM ASS

🙏🏽

[jade storm]

Fuck, that's fire lol

[stark osprey]

Likewise bro, dig the minimal.

[broken cape]

you got your interface, you don't need to buy a separate amp; anyways, the hd560s are definitely not a bad choice

[vague star]

do raw HE switches have solid bottoms like gateron magnetic jades or an open bottom like Raptor HEs? wondering if they're worth considering vs magnetic jades @paper bloom

[untold wigeon]

does anyone know alot abt rapid trigger

[steep cape]

new jades just got announced also btw

[deft turtle]

Anyone know what screw driver I’m supposed to use for this tofu60 redux 😭

[vague star]

ah shit im gonna hold on tight thanks- are there details? I saw it briefly but know nothing aside from the name "Jade Pros"

[vague star]

bro your flash took away all the detail from the screw LOL i think it's a hex screw though, the screwdriver that came with the tofu redux itself should work

[steep cape]

i don't think there is many details atm but theres also jade max which is same as pro but clear, at least as far as I've gathered

[deft turtle]

Yeah I just realized it came with a screw driver…..

💀💀

[vague star]

oh weird alright but yeah the sentiment being- hold til more info. seems like a good idea thanks!

[languid kestrel]

don't ask to ask, just ask

[untold wigeon]

js needed help w support for keyboards n stuff

[languid kestrel]

suit yourself

[untold wigeon]

https://en.akkogear.com/product/akko-mod007b-he-mechanical-keyboard/?srsltid=AfmBOorxlVGLmXhN4i0zIp-9R6KPG9qbViEj_5gU_AIY97Obsae4hCS3

can u get custom switches that support this

cuz i hate loud keyboards

apparently the akko fairys dont support it so

idk what silent switches do

[languid kestrel]

there are no HE silent switches

[fallen crag]

Being silent

Or more quiet than regular ones

[untold wigeon]

js

idk

i dont like

loud

sometimes i like to play at night and

yk 😭

[fallen crag]

Could also be a torx, but yeah, the flash nuked every detail

[languid kestrel]

there isn't really any silent HE switches as of now so if you want HE keeb you'll have to deal with regular switcheroos

[untold wigeon]

so theres no alternatives switches

that are js quieter

[fallen crag]

Overlube the Lekker switches and stabs slightly

[marsh saffron]

glass pad supremacy

[untold wigeon]

i think theyre prelubed but idk

[languid kestrel]

yeah there's tricks to make whatever switch more silent

[fallen crag]

Yeah, they are, but handlubing makes a difference

[marsh saffron]

my pics arent as cinematic tho

[untold wigeon]

oh

i was deciding between the high ground performance and the keyboard i sent, but the keyboard i sent had no complaints, it sounded better, apparently more quality to it

so

i js went with whatever media liked the most

[cyan zodiac]

It is coming from gateron iirc

But as of now no

[tawdry tree]

There are. Just not ones available separately. Gamakay’s Silent Phoenix are proper silent magnetic switches but they only come in their boards.

[jade storm]

this is insanely beautiful

[untold wigeon]

https://gamakay.com/en-gb/products/gamakay-35pcs-pack-gamakay-switch-linear-mechanical-phoenix-crystal-bumblebee-switch-prelubricate-keyboard-switch-for-diy-mechanical-gaming-keyboards?srsltid=AfmBOopZgcsRBejMQQbhArNDNAm-JMrhEJtRxgU_pBlaq5iWf4h3eG0A

these?

[tawdry tree]

No. They are not available separately.

[untold wigeon]

send a link

[tawdry tree]

The ones you linked aren’t magnetic switches.

[untold wigeon]

can u link

[tawdry tree]

They aren’t available separately! Only in their keyboard

[untold wigeon]

yeah

can u link

[tawdry tree]

Gamakay’s 75HE or something.

68/75HE

[untold wigeon]

so if i took the switches from that i can use them

[tawdry tree]

Yes.

For Wooting’s boards you can.

Here’s the sound test: #🔧│keyboard_modding message

[steep cape]

thats a cool looking mouse, im surprised by how popular holey mice are now

[marsh saffron]

Beastx mini

[cold bloom]

How do you like it? I really wanna try one since I like the rvmse a lot but my side buttons on that one are a bit wobbly lol

always have been

[gaunt plume]

KAILH Green Bee Magnetic Switch Sound

[elfin garnet]

I was sleep broski. They are semi-closed:

[drifting bronze]

They say the audio interface i have is ass and does not have ebough power

[pulsar schooner]

Cerapad?

[marsh saffron]

It's a bit small for me but I love it

[marsh saffron]

Nah superglide glass pad

[marsh saffron]

Id probably go with the bigger versions unless you have small hands or want to mainly ftip

[shell crown]

Fr fr, glasspad<3

[broken cape]

hm, I looked it up, it's indeed not the strongest .. but then you could always go for headphones with ~80 Ohm impedance rating, those should work fine then

[languid kestrel]

it's gonna be enough for anything...

just get the dt770 80ohm already

or the senny HD560s

or the senny HD650

or anything you want

[prime orbit]

So long 😭😭

[languid kestrel]

it's china shipping, what do you expect

[hollow bear]

anyone know a third party site i can find traitor keycaps

[latent kraken]

ewwwwwwwwwwww, basically every USB-powered audio interface has a power-starved hp amp section

[vague stag]

what's your take on Keychron keycaps - any good? Having a hard time finding any GMK with ISO nordic

[paper bloom]

Its a hybrid

[paper bloom]

Theyre way better than the jades 100% and i can stand by that

But in the end it is personal preference

Mb the whole day i was out and doing things

Boutta hit the gym and go out running soon

Or ima see how

[latent kraken]

studies have shown that telling others that you're about to exercise will light up the reward center of your brain and make you less likely to actually exercise 😄

[paper bloom]

Fun fact

Whatever i say i do'em

Idk about you guys

[latent kraken]

good shit, mate

[paper bloom]

I legit don't run away

LOL

[paper bloom]

When i sleep i am heading to bed i legitly mean it as well, ig there are some small number of people with that

[latent kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/fmj-full-metal-jacket-push-up-gif-11777188

[paper bloom]

Anyway gtg ping me here if theres anything or any questions

[drifting bronze]

And no need for a amp or anything?

Just plug and use?

[broken cape]

... yeah

[dire delta]

Should I buy RAW HE switches or wait till nylon top housing switches will be released🤔

[stone flax]

just buy raws

[drifting bronze]

Do I need somehting else then the sneheiser 560s.or 569 or can i just plug and play

[dire delta]

Aight that's the call

[hollow bear]

anyone ever bought traitor keycaps?

im trying to find a site that can ship em to ireland

[broken cape]

569 is definitely not an audiophile grade headphone, the 560s is. However that one has an impedance of 120 Ohms. It can work, but you'd be safer with something else. I'd go for the dt770pro/80 ohm then :P

[drifting bronze]

And where should i plug it in

Audio interface? Back of pc front

And with the 80ohm i dont need anything right?

[broken cape]

your audio interface of course :P

[neon tiger]

holy shit i think my 60he is here

just got home from work

time to start seeking advice from u guys

about modding

[broken cape]

you didn't plan before? :P

[neon tiger]

only know about lubing bro

my first keyboard ever that i own

bought the lube kit and brush kit

but have not bought the rest

[broken cape]

you mean before you were only interacting with your computer via the mouse? :P

[neon tiger]

laptop keyboard

LOL

in built

[broken cape]

fair

[neon tiger]

XDD u funny as shit

OF COURSE NOT BRO

[broken cape]

so you got the pre-built one?

[neon tiger]

yes bro

first time and its a wooting

[drifting bronze]

But its a.really cheap.one tho

[neon tiger]

woot !

[stone flax]

uh

[neon tiger]

yes bro ?

go ahead say anything u want i am open minded

[stone flax]

what u gonna mod?

[neon tiger]

uhhh

[stone flax]

like whats in mind

[neon tiger]

i am not sure brotha

burger mounts ?

[stone flax]

[neon tiger]

tape mod ?

lube ?

hahahaha

[stone flax]

ah ic

[drifting bronze]

It depends on what you like tho

[broken cape]

i guess first you gotta try it out stock and then see what you'd like to change

[honest sapphire]

put jade switches

[neon tiger]

have any advice for me fellow brothas ?

[neon tiger]

oh yeah ?

[stone flax]

most of the things u listed are optional/preference based

[neon tiger]

planning on buying the raw he geons haha

[broken cape]

yeah but as long as it drives the 80 ohms, which i believe it will, it should be fine :p

[honest sapphire]

havent tried those only have jades

[drifting bronze]

Where can I check that

[stone elbow]

Friction mount

[neon tiger]

oh yeah ?

[neon tiger]

okay okay

[drifting bronze]

What is the difference between 80ohm and 250

[stone flax]

yeah lol… doing burger + tape mod wont objectively make the keyboard better, atleast for you

[neon tiger]

why why why for me

[stone flax]

bc its preference?

no one here can tell what u want without context

[neon tiger]

oh i just wanna make the keyboard sound amazing

i aint lazy to do more

[stone flax]

…thats exactly it

doing these mods dont equate to a hurr durr more better sound

It just tunes the sound and feel

[drifting bronze]

@neon tiger look everything is preference but what i reccomend and alot of other people to is lubing stabelizers and switches you can also go for aftermarket switches

[stone flax]

doesnt necessarily make it better

[neon tiger]

oh

thanks for being straight up G

[neon tiger]

yes i got the lube alr

and brushes

[stone elbow]

I mean you can experiment

[neon tiger]

waiting to order geon raw hes

[stone flax]

what lube?

[neon tiger]

the wooting one ?

not good enuff ?

[stone flax]

thats fine

[neon tiger]

dope !

[stone flax]

Its 205 and a stab grease

[neon tiger]

ok bro we will see

[neon tiger]

yeapp

thinking of also buying a case

[stone flax]

even without doing anything to the switches/getting new ones

[neon tiger]

does it do much bros ?

[stone flax]

work on the stabilizers

[neon tiger]

you mean lube wise ?

[stone flax]

tuning in general

[broken cape]

higher impedance means that a higher power is required to achieve a certain volume; in theory higher-end equipment usually uses higher impedance, but it isn't as easy as to say that it automatically means better quality or something. Like I don't know if anyone would even notice a difference between the 80 or 250 ohm variant of the headphone, but i haven't tried mysaelf ..

about what your interface can do: https://www.reddit.com/r/audio/comments/m5rx0b/uphoria_um2_ohms/?rdt=61242
apparently this guy had the same question. behringer kinda doesn't state it properly, but apparently some people manage to run 250 ohm beyerdynamics with it. Though who knows if they have issues with a little bit of distortion? But that's what got me thinking into that you'd be safe plugging 80 ohm headphones into that interface

[neon tiger]

what does tuning mean bro

[stone flax]

it just means everything to get it sounding proper

[neon tiger]

bro u seem like a

audio master G

LOL

[stone flax]

could be lubing, balancing, etc..

[neon tiger]

maybe i can seek advice from u about my mic purchase

LOL

[neon tiger]

ah ok

[neon tiger]

balancing ? da fuck

[stone flax]

wire balancing.?

[neon tiger]

wtf

[stone flax]

have u heard of it

[neon tiger]

WHATS THAT

[stone flax]

?

[broken cape]

noo lol XD I've been just reading a little bit

[neon tiger]

[stone flax]

oh wow

[stone elbow]

The impedence is not the only thing to worry about, there's also sensitivity

[languid kestrel]

man I try to explain about headphones and stuff and nobody wants to listen

[neon tiger]

ME ME

might buy one

i will listen

[stone flax]

basically stab wires can come uneven and would need to be straightened/greased up in order to not make ticking

its a diff problem than rattle

[neon tiger]

man what the phuck

[languid kestrel]

just "I can't use 250ohm headphones with the u-phoria because 250 is a bigger number than 80!"

[drifting bronze]

So a 80ohm should be safe and there is no differebce in sound quality and it can easily run 80 ohm but what could i upgrade to like a new audio interface or somethinh

[neon tiger]

can i add u bro ? i dont wanna spam here can u advise me more once i open my package ?

[neon tiger]

tf does this mean bro

u - phoria .... ?

man u guys have so many special terms and knowledge

LOL

[drifting bronze]

Its the name

[stone flax]

sub-minute long guide basically shows how the problem looks and how to address it https://youtu.be/1APcXRqfOao?feature=shared

[neon tiger]

ah ok

[neon tiger]

aight bet

[languid kestrel]

that's paraphrasing what lizardvh keeps saying even though multiple people have tried multiple times to explain that's not really how it works

[neon tiger]

oh

whats the best HEADSET ?

[languid kestrel]

the one whose features you like the best

[neon tiger]

ion know

for competitive fps ?

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-nervous-anime-sweat-sweating-nervous-sweating-gif-8464066390113296650

pls dotn scold me

[ocean widget]

Me with a 55$ iem

[neon tiger]

i am new to this scene

[neon tiger]

just got a pair of IEMS but

have not open them

[ionic breach]

me with samsung earbuds

[stone flax]

Which ones

[neon tiger]

headset is better sometimes right

[neon tiger]

ehhh i dont wanna trigger ppl i will dm you

LOL

[neon tiger]

DMING YOU TOO NOW HAHA

been too busy

[stone flax]

Not rly, headphones better too i think

[languid kestrel]

iunno the game zero from sennheiser I guess

[neon tiger]

oh ok

[neon tiger]

oh aight bet

[languid kestrel]

or the audeze maxwell if you want to invest more

[stone flax]

Wireless

[ocean widget]

I went from wireless to wired

[neon tiger]

oh

[drifting bronze]

@broken cape is there a big difference between 80 and 250

[languid kestrel]

how many times you need to ask the same questions

[drifting bronze]

Just want to make sure 😂

[neon tiger]

HAHAAHA DAYUM

[languid kestrel]

absolutely none you can discern is the answer