🔧│keyboard_modding

[drifting bronze]

Is there anything else then friction mount

[calm pulsar]

there are cases with entirely different mounting systems, like for example frog mini, it mounts on tadpoles, similar to gasket mounting on 80he,
but it needs a custom plate for wooting

but if you have a tofu, there are really only two methods

[drifting bronze]

No in mean is the tray mount bad? Without burger mount

[calm pulsar]

I dont think its bad, it just depends on how picky you are about the sound

I have a sound test with jades and tray mount in tofu

https://youtu.be/XPf0Qeh_LGM

the stabs are ticking a bit tho in it 😄

[drifting bronze]

Is sounds great I think

My keyboard currently sounds like.this with the stock case

[tidal frigate]

Ye you should be capable to achive that. Tho doing full size keeb would be hard

[lunar river]

I'm gonna have to find somewhere that does custom anodized designs

[calm pulsar]

in a metal case it should become softer cause its less pingy
are you using the original steel plate here?

[drifting bronze]

No pc with silicon insert

Should I use foam insert or what do you recommend

[untold wigeon]

Where does POM fall in the sound spectrum?

[drifting bronze]

And metal makes it less pingy?

[calm pulsar]

I havent used the silicon yet so can't really say, I will try out the silicone once my module arrives

[lunar river]

Wait I can totally make a custom logo on my board since I'm getting it done custom

[calm pulsar]

if you use foam and the brass weight for the tofu it should be more dense overall which means less unwanted noises when typing

[drifting bronze]

Oh ok but u use the foam in that vid

[untold wigeon]

Ty @quiet bay

[drifting bronze]

The tofu foam?

[calm pulsar]

tbh I went kinda crazy in that vid and I put car noise insulation material at the bottom of my case lol

it is sticky and an ass to remove later

so I'd say try with the tofu foam first

[drifting bronze]

Ok 😄 I won't be using car noise insulation noted haha

@calm pulsar so you don't use the middle standoff right?

[calm pulsar]

yes

I think most ppl here would recommend that too

[lunar river]

Obviously I should abandon my aluminum dream and go for a foamless carbon fiber keyboard

[uneven cradle]

I would say tray mount in general isn't a very liked mounting system nowadays in the custom scene

[drifting bronze]

Ok thanks and what about tape mod ?

[calm pulsar]

personally I didnt like tape mod with wooting, cause the switches work differently and its a different sound

tape mod increases overall volume too since it reflects sound back at you

[drifting bronze]

Ah ok and my other question is the 2 bottom rubber feet on the stock case came of for some reason so how are they on the tofu and you sure it doesn't make the sound bad on it when you just screw in the pcb directly onto the stand offs and do you need to use the tofu screws or the wooting ones

[calm pulsar]

on the tofu redux there are two long rubber feet iirc, so it should be all good

you can actually go for small orings, and do a burger mount using tofu screws, cause they are a bit longer

so it will be a tray mount but a bit softer

actually this is what I have in the video

burger mounted

[untold wigeon]

This does not work with stock 60he stabs correct?

[drifting bronze]

Yeha but I didn't order those and can't rn so? What do you think will it be good?

[calm pulsar]

the layout seems correct
are you planning to get this plate and drill the holes?

[untold wigeon]

That was my other question, where are the holes?

[calm pulsar]

conventional mech keyboards dont have them on plates, I think

wooting requires them due to how magnetic switches are attached

[drifting bronze]

@calm pulsar so the tofu screws also work good without the small o rings

[untold wigeon]

Oh ok. Is there a specific Pom plate I should be looking at?

[pulsar coral]

anybody know when frog mini leggera will be available lol

[calm pulsar]

without small origns you can just use stock screws, it really doesnt matter
but I think small orings are available on amazon very easily, you could just order some, it would probably be like 1 or 2 euro or smth

[calm pulsar]

I used a black pom plate in my video actually, which I got from AE, and it had holes for wooting similar to the CF plate from kbdfans

let me get you a link

[untold wigeon]

Ty

[drifting bronze]

Yea but I can use the tofu screw without the o rings or not because I don't want to fuck around with those not magnetized screws

[calm pulsar]

uhh tbh im not sure if the stock wooting screws are any different material

I think you can use either ones and itll be good

I used stock wooting screws on my board tho

[uneven cradle]

Can confirm do not need to worry about screws

[drifting bronze]

Yea but they have a cothing on thel

[drifting bronze]

Ok thanks haha

[calm pulsar]

https://sl.aliexpress.ru/p?key=z9BeshL

you can also check their other stuff, they have some foam packs etc

also might have to change the language on AE 😄

@untold wigeon this full black fr4 is also from these guys btw

[untold wigeon]

Awesome Ty.

[fluid ravine]

@untold wigeon is the flex cuts noticeable on the CF plate?

[untold wigeon]

@fluid ravine ^^^

[fluid ravine]

So it is

Kinda weird flex cut spots imo

[calm pulsar]

I havent tried this plate yet but these cuts seem to be kinda cosmetic, cause I dont really feel any flex

the plate is quite firm

even with these cuts

[fluid ravine]

i mean yea its cf

[untold wigeon]

Very firm

[fluid ravine]

but again the spots of these flex cuts are weird

Still havent decide if i want to go with fr4 or cf

yet

[calm pulsar]

yeah and they arent adding any flex lol

[fluid ravine]

yeah i assume so

[calm pulsar]

but the plate is high quality, even the standoff holes are countersunk which is cool

[fluid ravine]

mm kk

[untold wigeon]

Fr4 has the same cuts

But thicker it seems

[uneven cradle]

Ngl not a big flex cut kind of guy

[calm pulsar]

I think it might be the same, its just fr4 has yellow edges, so it might seem thinner

[untold wigeon]

I think you’re right

[heavy escarp]

😭

[upper hamlet]

What are jade switches for wooting ? Keyboard noob here

[untold wigeon]

Very nice. I’ve been debating on pulling the trigger on these for months. Post videos when you get them.

[untold wigeon]

They are a different type of switch than what comes in the keyboard. A direct replacement

[sweet oak]

Hes trying to find some switches to swap from the normal lekkers

[upper hamlet]

Any specific ones you recommend ? I've seen gateron switches whatever that means

[heavy escarp]

will do

[calm pulsar]

jades are a switch that is a bit closed to conventional mech switch, but these days geon raw he switch is a bit better than jades, so might consider it

[untold wigeon]

Gateron is a brand. Jade is a type

[upper hamlet]

I see I see thank you

[untold wigeon]

Jades are great. As @calm pulsar said Raw from Geon are better

[upper hamlet]

In that case because I don't know what I'm looking for would it be unreasonable to ask for some links to get some ? For the 60he if that's okay :)

[calm pulsar]

https://geon.works/products/geon-raw-he-switch

[upper hamlet]

Thank you very much

[calm pulsar]

you need 61 for 60he iirc, might need to get a couple of spare ones too just in case

cause for these you select the quantity

[upper hamlet]

So which GF do I choose and I'm assuming the quantity is how many I wanna order so each 1 is just a single switch

[calm pulsar]

correct abt the quantity

as for springs force, if you have the stock lekkers and you like the bottom out force, choose 60g

if you want a lighter switch, consider 40 or 50

[upper hamlet]

I'll choose 60 I like the feel of those :)

Thank you all so much for your help ❤️ really appreciate it

[calm pulsar]

btw @untold wigeon , did you order the geons yet?

if you were going to anyways

[plucky basalt]

does anyone know anywhere when I can pruchase already-modded wootings?

[marsh saffron]

eBay/Facebook marketplace/kijiji

[calm pulsar]

I guess some subreddits where ppl offer building services, or mechmarket to find a used modded wooting

[marsh saffron]

^

[calm pulsar]

what is kijiji? the word looks funny on text 😄

[marsh saffron]

Might be a Canadian thing?

It's basically no different than ebay

[calm pulsar]

ah I see

[upper hamlet]

One more question, what's yall opinions on ceramic keycaps ?

And do you think there is a better option available

[calm pulsar]

@untold wigeon and @quiet bay are your guys for that

they got cerakeys

you can also look for Pochizo's sound tests, he has a super thocky (lower pitch sounding) build with ceramic keycaps

[hard flower]

How do these compare to Raptor & Jade?

[upper hamlet]

Oooooo dayum ill give that a go as well and wait for their response thank you

[calm pulsar]

geon raws are similar to jades in terms of sealed bottom, but the tolerances on these are better, so there is less chatter and a bit softer sound

I personally have jades currently, so im judging from peoples' sound tests and opinions

[upper hamlet]

I have seen the sound tests I'm gonna wait for their response and see if I wanna go for a ceramic keycap set

👍

[quiet bay]

Loving them, very thocky, great rgb shinethrough

[upper hamlet]

Okay thats all I need to know haha, I'll pull the trigger and get myself a set, any brand you reccomend someone buys these from ? I'm collecting links so I can buy it all at once so I have everything I need

[quiet bay]

I bought them from the cerakeys site, I dont think they sell anywhere else besides people reselling

[hard flower]

Interesting, thanks! I have yet to try anything but the default that come on the 60HE+. Jade & Raptor are still in transit

[upper hamlet]

Cerakeys, got it I've looked at their site before, I'm guessing all their caps are the same its just down to personal preference on colour and layout ?

[calm pulsar]

yeah I loved my jades when they came out, I ordered as soon as I heard someone made a switch with the sealed bottom, cause im not a fan of the stock sound with the lekkers

[quiet bay]

Yeah, only crazed caps r a lil different since they have another coating to produce that cracked effect

[upper hamlet]

Ah I see I see

Thanks for the help mate ❤️

Super helpful

Truly

[quiet bay]

👍

Also make sure u have atleast a 60g spring to keep the spacebar stable

[hard flower]

I've never owned a hot swappable keyboard before so I'm stoked to give it a go!

[upper hamlet]

Yep I've marked the link to get 60GF RAW switches

So I'm set there

[quiet bay]

Niceee ur board is going to sound goooood

[upper hamlet]

Thank you, excited to give it a go, gonna record my attempt to swap these things and make a cool little video for yall to laugh at lmao

Ok I've got the switches, the lube set, the keycap puller and switch puller, and the keycaps, anything else I might need apart from the screw driver ?

Oh and I'll get some foam I just need to do a little research on what to get in that department

[untold wigeon]

Yes. Just shipped today

[quiet bay]

I hope u got a switch opener lol

[upper hamlet]

I'll need that as well

[calm pulsar]

nice, I wanted to wait until they are available on AE but a lot of ppl here seem to get them which makes me want to order them too 😄

but I have to test out my frankenswitch anyway

[untold wigeon]

Yeah I got impatient

[quiet bay]

Yeah the only thing stopping me rn is the emptiness of my wallet

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/money-wallet-broke-gif-7855913

[calm pulsar]

yeah good thing my gf doesnt know how much my keyboard stuff is worth xdd

[quiet bay]

Yeah pretty sure my wooting is close to 500 💀

[upper hamlet]

Ok I'm gonna get the gateron switch opener as a lot of people seem to like it

[upper hamlet]

With the price of these things I can see how it could ramp up in price lmao

[calm pulsar]

3.5mm thickness gummy orings arrived

these seem way nicer than what I have installed

@quiet bay in klippe t, are the standoffs removable? I have 4 standoffs that I can't remove in freeebird60, so I just put some foam on them to make em softer

was wondering if there is a better solution for this, when doing a friction mount

[quiet bay]

The 2 in the middle r removable but thats it

[calm pulsar]

I see, did you put something on them?

[quiet bay]

nah

[calm pulsar]

ah actually your pcb is so high it probably doesnt even touch them

[quiet bay]

Yeah 😭

[calm pulsar]

dang there are so many cool 60% cases that can be gummy o-ring or gasket mounted, but they are super expensive or have the middle usb port

[visual moat]

if i get a new black switch plate from wooting with the silicon and foam will it be quieter then stock?

[stark osprey]

I believe the 60HE comes with a steel plate with poron under it, so if you get the PC plate then it should produce deeper sounds and less clacky. If you have the 60he+ (module) it already comes with a PC plate and the silicone pad is what's installed stock.

[visual moat]

ok got it

im gonna do office work with the wooting what quietest compatible hall effect switch?

[stark osprey]

Ive only got experience with the Lekkers, Jades, and Raw HE, and in my setup the Raw HE was most quiet.

[visual moat]

is there a youtube video sound test foir the raw he

[stark osprey]

There's people here with better sound clips, but cant find atm, just DMed you a video of mine.

[visual moat]

are those the lekkar l60 switches

[stark osprey]

@d4v1d2825 those are the Raw Hes

[visual moat]

i need something as close to silent bro those aint gon work\

i might have to rock the office keyboard with membrane switches

[calm pulsar]

well the stock switches actually might be the quietest option

might also look into Black Knights, which are open bottom like lekkers, but they are lubed with oil which might make them even less noisy

[visual moat]

i couldnt find a sound test for the black knight switches. they do however look very opium

[calm pulsar]

#1266235655311331368 message

this is frog mini though

[uneven cradle]

There aren't any "quiet" HE switches at the moment

[calm pulsar]

yeah and I've seen many ppl saying "silent" switches are usually trash xd

[uneven cradle]

Yeah me

Although I still need to try some of the newer ones

[calm pulsar]

I dont think they are even quieter than membrane boards

[uneven cradle]

Honestly the way some people type on membranes in my office my mx switches are still quieter then that

[polar girder]

I’m also on the hunt for silent HE but it’s non-existent rn

Black knight and stem swapped raptors the quietest I’ve seen so far.

I have other, maybe compatible, switches coming in this week lol

[frosty shale]

its pe foam safe for wooting60he+ ?

[polar girder]

Yeah

[dire apex]

Can u send a link to the black knight sound test?

[quiet bay]

a lil bit late but pfp change

[fluid ravine]

Chat, she's changing!

Going through a phase!

[calm pulsar]

this guy has the same pfp as Pochizo hmm

maybe a big fan

[weak inlet]

hello what us the most quiet switch i can buy for wooting?

[fluid ravine]

You can go for the neutral pitch switches like v2, black knights, and all that

just use like foam and sound deadner to lower the board's volume

without any mods that increase volume like tape mod and all that

use pbt keycaps id say

[weak inlet]

i did tape mod and lots of foam so its quiet already but the lekker 45 seem kinda loud even tho i hand lubed them

[fluid ravine]

chatter

[calm pulsar]

tape mod reflects sound back at you which might increase volume depending on the rest of variables

[granite comet]

I think wooting is taking the L with shipping rn

[fluid ravine]

womp womp

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-yoda-patience-sw3-gif-21070142

[torpid bobcat]

is pe foam mod on the pcb safe with the he sensors? , anyone expreience?

[normal schooner]

#🪛│modding_faq

[stark osprey]

Got mine here, $10 / $16 shipped atm. https://deskr.co/products/gateron-switch-opener

[upper hamlet]

Cheers I was gonna drop 25 bucks

❤️

Would you say this is easy to use ?

[stark osprey]

Yeah I'd say so, also like this design as it's faster for me to use than the small square ones.

[upper hamlet]

Alright sounds good then thank you :) I'll end up getting this one

[stark osprey]

For sure, hope you like it!

[torpid bobcat]

is pcb foam mod listet there, i dont seem to find it

[normal schooner]

im sure it works fine. however I hear people dont like that mod.

[torpid bobcat]

so the switch pads don't affect the HE sensors or do they? they are poron and 0.5 mm thick

[mental viper]

What do u think of my modded 60he?

[polar comet]

solid

[grave tulip]

depends, i had no issues using it on my tofu but when i switched to a salvation i ran into issues with sensors

[wind karma]

hey guys, the Raw HE's are long pole like the jades right?

[grave tulip]

should note the one i used was the full sized one that covered the entire pcb, not for individual switches

[torpid bobcat]

how was the problem noticable and how did u test it?

[grave tulip]

analog monitor, few keys on the bottom row didn’t actuate fully

but i’m pretty sure that was because of the leaf spring mounting style

if u have a normal case i don’t think you should run into issues

[torpid bobcat]

analog monitor? is that a software?

[grave tulip]

#1196768306602983494 message

[tawdry tree]

Shouldn’t matter. Only the distance between the PCB and plate matters. The distance can increase because of a switch pad of course.

[torpid bobcat]

thanks, i give it a shot in the evening today

[wind karma]

would appreciate answers to this. would TX ap clip ins work with the raw he's? i don't know much about stabs

[glacial wind]

yes they're 3.4mm long pole distance

if you mean in 60he then tx ap clip in is hit or miss (not all stabs fit 60he)

but if you mean 80he then it will fit

[calm pulsar]

stop talking about raws or else im going to have to order them

[grave tulip]

ah. not sure then, in any case removing it fixed my issues so p sure the switch pad was at fault

[wind karma]

i mean the 60he

[glacial wind]

Then I wouldn’t go tx ap because sometimes it doesn’t fit

[wind karma]

which long pole stabs should i get then

[glacial wind]

Just grab some geon spacers for a few dollars

You don’t need long pole stabs

(You may not even need those as only small percentage of people run onto the long pole issue)

[wind karma]

what is the issue actually

[wind karma]

oh i've never heard of these before

[glacial wind]

the issue is that with some lower quality looser keycaps you may get the long keys like spacebar wobbling off if you push hard on one side

but for large majority of people you won't see this issue at all

so generally it's not something you need to worry about unless you actually run into issues and if you do you can literally just use geon stab spacers which are a few dollars instead of buying entire stabs

[jovial grove]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-for-you-gif-8551867081249355873

For my new case

[wind karma]

i have this issue with both sets of keycaps i have

on jades rn

i need to push pretty hard for it but its still unbalancedd

[glacial wind]

then get geon stab spacers

https://divinikey.com/products/geon-stem-spacer

if you only get it with hard presses then I wouldn't really be worried about it, but if you're worried then the stab spacers will basically convert your normal stabs to long pole stabs

[wind karma]

its still not balanced though, no matter which side its pressed into

itll always be not balanced

[wind karma]

alright so i just place this on the stems of the stabilizers?

[glacial wind]

yeah one per side basically

super easy to do

[wind karma]

alright, thanks

also one thing

why is the jades travel distance advertised as 3.5mm? in some vid they tested the distance and it was 3.7mm

[fringe quarry]

which one is this

[glacial wind]

there's a +- amount but they'd be roughly 3.5mm

[wind karma]

so its just tolerances.. i see

also would i NEED a switch puller to get the switches out?

i don't want to break the switches when pulling them out

[glacial wind]

i would get a switch puller if you are removing switches yeah

they're insanely cheap

[wind karma]

so removing them by hand would damage them?

[glacial wind]

Well I don’t know why you’d want to do that because you’d need some sort of utensil to do that for many of them

And a switch remover is like $5

[wind karma]

i actually don't know if its even possible to remove switches by hand lol my bad

ye

what's a good switch puller i remember hearing good things about one specifically i forgot which one

[glacial wind]

wuque one is the one you probably heard that a bunch of us here use, but there's plenty of them and you don't really need a fancy one

[wind karma]

the titanium one?

[glacial wind]

yeah that one is quite popular

[sour flower]

Do you guys know what material Lekker/Jade springs are made of?

[wind karma]

okay thank you

[glacial wind]

https://x.com/hitoshi_1107/status/1820405623638626751

ひとし (@hitoshi_1107) on X

JADE PRO,JADE MAX,mini JADE and HE sensor included switches on the way

Twitter · Aug 5, 2024, 10:24 AM

[sour flower]

i wonder what makes them PRO and MAX

[wind karma]

what..

[crimson sky]

ask apple

[glacial wind]

yeah i assume mini jade might be jade dual rail N version, but who knows what pro and max mean

[sour flower]

N version?

[wind karma]

now i'll just wait instead of buying the raw he's rn

[crimson sky]

just indicates which way the magnet polarity is facing

[sour flower]

Ah, why would that be Mini tho?

[crimson sky]

maybe it is lowpro

[sour flower]

thats what i was thinking

[glacial wind]

because they called it mini jade e iirc correctly in some posts for the current dual rail ones

[sour flower]

fair enough if not a bit odd

[glacial wind]

i wonder what they changed though for other versions

at this stage it'd have to be something drastic done to make them better than raw he since the raw he are already tight wobble wise

would have to be some vast difference in sound

[sour flower]

some magnetic accuracy improvement?

[crimson sky]

integrated sensor would mean they get a lot more control over the switch output

[glacial wind]

that would be interesting

[sour flower]

what are the odds these fit well enough to be functional

[late quest]

are moa profile keycaps good for gaming?

[sour flower]

personal preference i would imagine

[glacial wind]

https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/qNVvOzpP17mx found the official post

august 24th

for whatever this is

[sour flower]

most of it just seemed to be story telling for an event

at least according to google translate lol

[night ermine]

What do I do with these?

( came with 60he module)

[torpid bobcat]

between pcb and screws

[night ermine]

Oh they're for burger mounting?

[torpid bobcat]

no burger mount where they bigger loops i think, these are small but like a burger

[night ermine]

Cheers

So I just stick them on the screws when I put them in

and then after theyre in

[torpid bobcat]

you can glue them on the screw hole on the pcb

[night ermine]

I presume front and back?

[torpid bobcat]

so with the analog monitor i notices that the first few presses with the switch the sensot jumps from 3.25 to 4mm instand, and after a few presses the jump is gone, is this normal with magnetic switches?

[safe stag]

maybe it's part of the calibration

[tawdry tree]

Switches that include sensors were for some mechanical keyboards I read. Not something for HE boards in general.

[crimson sky]

would need to be VERY efficient sensors if they only need the energy of a scan to give a reading

[tawdry tree]

I don’t think that’s possible. Would probably need new firmware or something.

[safe stag]

how many watts do Wooting keyboards consume ?

[tawdry tree]

Depends on RGB brightness of course. 0.5 -1.5 on half brightness.

+0.5 with Tachyon Mode enabled.

[magic vigil]

Hello, who can help me to make my Wooting 60HE compatible with SignalRGB pls ?

[red abyss]

What keycaps do i keep on my keyboard?

[languid forge]

go keyless

only switches

[short birch]

are jades going to get a v2?

[calm pulsar]

oi they got me! 👌🏻

[languid forge]

get raw he if yer want

[polar girder]

Doh. I should’ve ordered a new switch opener

The Wooting one kind of played out for me

[short birch]

ty

[languid forge]

they sound pretty nice

[calm pulsar]

just received my module, you’re talking abt this?

[polar girder]

lol naw

I’ve never once used that lol

The Wooting lube kit

[calm pulsar]

ah lol

[polar girder]

Comes with a switch opener and puller

The puller I replaced. Just lamenting I should’ve done the same with the opener

Maybe I’ll just buy one from whoever has the knight stabs in stock first lol

What’s best switch opener?

Seems like many like the gateron one

[calm pulsar]

I got one that's a simple aluminum cube, but the gateron is a fancy one

[polar girder]

Yeah I have a cube one but I hate always pulling the bottom housing out

[glacial wind]

gateron announced new switches being announced august 24th, but no further details on what the names mean

just we know jade pro, jade max and jade mini are the names

[deep plaza]

Anyone know where you get keycaps for eu, seems like NA has way more options

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/ups-error-facepalm-gif-15403364

Of course Gateron would release new switches just as I bought new ones.

[calm pulsar]

wait there's a new HE switch??

[calm pulsar]

ah sorry I just had to read messages above

[calm pulsar]

aint no way, excited to see whats new in em

[urban harbor]

can't wait for everyone to throw out their Raw HEs for the new flavor of the month lol

[safe stag]

hahaha...

I just bought them 2 day ago

[calm pulsar]

I mean they are not bad by any means

[safe stag]

of course

and I'm curious about what the "pro" will get

[calm pulsar]

knowing how gateron treats jade price the new ones are probably going to be even more expensive

[calm pulsar]

yeah I wonder

@untold wigeon got these 100g bad boys too

[safe stag]

100g ?!

are you planning to use cerakeys

[sour flower]

o hey someone else who likes heavier springs

[calm pulsar]

nah just was curious, I use gmk lol

[sour flower]

i'll await ur arrival in the 300g+ club

[calm pulsar]

yeah I also have 70g ones, gonna test them in my frankenswitch

[safe stag]

as an adofai player, heavier springs just cancel the stamina buff I get with rapid trigger

[sour flower]

i just have the 300g in Kailh speed navies, i bought some tester springs from aliexpress today, but i have no idea what the actual weight is

[sour flower]

these lol

[safe stag]

what type of frankenswitch ?

[sour flower]

so hopefully those fit/work in the HE switches

[calm pulsar]

lol that's a lot of springs, I ordered a ton of gummy orings this way

[calm pulsar]

there are some 2stage magnetic switch springs on AE, though they have lighter ones for now

they said they will be making stronger springs too

[calm pulsar]

let me find it here

[sour flower]

can u send me a link?

[calm pulsar]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[calm pulsar]

https://sl.aliexpress.ru/p?key=IlnesrA
might need to change the language tho

[sour flower]

ty, hopefully they drop heavier ones, or my attempt to find some will work

xD

[calm pulsar]

they have 70g on their store too, but they are 1stage

[sour flower]

or wooting will just drop some 300g and 500g springs for me :)

i saw 120g, but thats still light

[calm pulsar]

bro trying to make a pressure plate keyboard

[sour flower]

#🌟│wooting80he message

my full-size keychron has a board full of those xD i love the weight

[calm pulsar]

do you game on those?

[sour flower]

ofc not

i had a tartarus for a long time, and recently swapped to huntsman v3 and wooting 60he and returned the huntsman in favor of the wooting, while i wait for the 80he

[calm pulsar]

I imagine it might be cool for analog input, but thats about it xd

[sour flower]

yea, for gaming i probably wont go higher than 100g, but for typing more is better for me

I'm tempted to get a 2HE with gateron jades or lekker v2's, if I can get 300-500g springs for it

[jovial grove]

I have mode my 60+ today

[untold wigeon]

I have them with my GMK caps right now. Love em!

Raws arriving tomorrow! I love shipping from South Korea! ❤️❤️❤️

[calm pulsar]

damn these shipping times are insanely good

[untold wigeon]

2 day shipping after fulfillment. Friggin awesome.

[untold wigeon]

It really is. I didn’t even pay for fast shipping. Just standard

[steel sail]

Jade mini? Are they making the travel distance even shorter than it already is?

[steel comet]

Yo guys what is the cheapest case for the module ?

Still searching

[safe stag]

maybe a low profile one

[steel sail]

ahhh that makes sense

[calm pulsar]

low profile magnetic keebs

[glacial wind]

jade mini is what they sometimes called the jade dual rails in some of the chinese stuff iirc

[steel sail]

mm okay

[glacial wind]

but i guess we'll see on the 24th

[steel sail]

Jades are already pretty good so

Interesting to see

[calm pulsar]

freebird60 might be on cheaper end, but there are also even cheaper ones on aliexpress

[safe stag]

https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/32540926035.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2fra

[fluid ravine]

Morning

[fluid ravine]

WATCH THEY'RE GONNA SHIP TODAY

[calm pulsar]

yo Thackson, I got da role

[untold wigeon]

Already shipped 😎

[fluid ravine]

I could never!

[fluid ravine]

WWWW

[calm pulsar]

you gotta win an uwu so you can get the role

[fluid ravine]

Like imagine having a colored role

Can't imagine

[stark osprey]

Yeah they're faster than alot of US shops as well who charge premium shipping fees. (Looking at you Omnitype)

[untold wigeon]

Seriously. WS in cali was 3xs as long as this

[calm pulsar]

they have to drive around all these crazy fires

[fluid ravine]

[fluid ravine]

Wait how u get a role just now

[calm pulsar]

if you remember I ordered the module through a guy some time ago
today it arrived and I asked him to transfer the role to my wooting hub account

[fluid ravine]

[calm pulsar]

gotta sell this 60he non plus now🫰

new case

[untold wigeon]

Got a cool new toy for just surfing the web!

[calm pulsar]

oh thats kinda cool
might be easier in the hands too

at first I thought it was super big and lying on the floor

[untold wigeon]

lol!

[untold wigeon]

That’s the thought.

Here’s a little ASMR.

[slender beacon]

Best switches that are stable, deep sounding, and good for fps games?

[polar girder]

Black Knight

[slender beacon]

Got those, some raptors, and some jade’s gonna see which I like most 🙂

[clever harbor]

has anyone painted the gold module on the alumaze 60

[radiant lake]

Can lekker45 switch be north facing for gmk red samurai?

[tawdry tree]

Yes, but not necessary. When you flip Lekkers, it’ll drastically dim your RGB.

I assumed you meant south facing by the way.

[polar girder]

The LED on the PCB and the led opening on the switch are both north facing. But the switch can be put in south facing no problem. Just dimmer RGB, as noted

[tawdry tree]

I don’t know how I read your message. Yes, it can be north facing. No, there won’t be a problem.

[radiant lake]

ok thx

[marsh saffron]

Many have made custom ones from different materials, wrapped it with vinyl, painted it, etc

[untold wigeon]

GMK north facing. No problems. 👍

[wind karma]

do alumaze take long to be delivered like the 60HE's? or will they be quick

[safe stag]

I live in france and it took 2 days to come xD

[wind karma]

ah okay

[safe stag]

with the module, cable, etc

[wind karma]

so 2 days from when you made the purchase to your door?

oh..

[safe stag]

Confirmation mail received the 24/07, case received the 26

[wind karma]

i see

are they usually in stock or would i have to wait for the next batch of alumazes to be manufactured

[safe stag]

Mine was in stock

[marsh saffron]

It tells you

The module/prebuilt sells out fairly often

[wind karma]

yeah ik, i mean the alumaze though

or does it say that for the alumaze too?

when you're ordering

[marsh saffron]

Alumaze not really I don't think

[marsh saffron]

Any product it tells you if it's in stock and estimated delivery/arrival at warehouse

[wind karma]

ah okay, i must've forgotten then. my bad

[marsh saffron]

Alumaze is in stock for eu warehouse rn

Probably the same story for us warehouse

[wind karma]

i'm shipping it to the middle east

[cedar gate]

Anyone have a RAW HE v. Gatreon jade sound test

[cold bloom]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[noble wraith]

Anyone know if these keycaps will make any problem with the 60HE
https://a.co/d/3IPV4lc

or any recommendation for anything similar to ceramic keycaps that are cheaper than cerakey

[stone flax]

No

[formal panther]

if you want a similar sound profile... dont even bother with ceramic just get nice pbt keycaps

[stone flax]

ceramic on he kinda wack lol

[formal panther]

yea

[stone flax]

heavy enough so that spacebar will actuate by itself if on minimum ap

[formal panther]

DCS sound the best on HE

from my testing

trust

[noble wraith]

🫡

[formal panther]

if you want a lower pitched sound signature, get crp

or even pbtfans (never tried it tho)

[formal panther]

i cant do light springs on HE

like theres no point wiht rapid trigger xD

the whole point of 40 and 50g springs in my old mech keyboards was that light springs will let me actuate the 2mm faster

[noble wraith]

I mean I dont have things on the spacebar regardless

[formal panther]

60g geon raw HE is perfect

[polar girder]

So many subjective opinions being stated as facts.

[polar girder]

This one is particularly wild

[stone flax]

a heavy spacebar cap on a light spring switch set to minimum actuation point can cause it to actuate even without pressing

[polar girder]

Making a statement that hasn’t even been tested

[stone flax]

thats not a subjective opinion lol

[formal panther]

never tried pbtfans on a HE board, but ive tried a couple sets before, i can pretty much guess how its gonna feel/sound like, lol

[polar girder]

This is a totally random point that you’re just now bringing up lol

[stone flax]

Only because u popped in through half the conversation

[formal panther]

also its not a subjective opinion that pbt keycap sets are a lower pitch than abs

[stone flax]

He wanted something like ceramic on his keycaps

I said ceramic is dumb for he

[polar girder]

Yeah ceramic not dumb for HE

[harsh dove]

Ceramic spacebars work fine with 60g or more

[polar girder]

That’s dumb take

Just match the spring to what you need it to do

[stone flax]

Ok bro im slapping cera keys on my 30gram he switch

Oh noooo…..

[polar girder]

Yeah that’s dumb

[stone flax]

Its actuating by itself

[formal panther]

also, he switches on average have a spring weight of ~50g, no?

[polar girder]

Plus handful of “best” statements not even describing or saying what for what

Homie said “trust”

[harsh dove]

Works the same way with HE really, even with rapid trigger, light springs also reduce fatigue for some people.

[harsh dove]

Yeah about 40-60 on average

[stray tiger]

While the plastic composition does make a difference, the thickness and profile of the keycap plays a larger role in shaping the sound. However, if the keycaps are equal thickness/size, PBT is slightly deeper than ABS

[polar girder]

“Be mindful of spring weight when using ceramic keycaps since keycaps are heavier than plastic” much more accurate than “ceramic dumb for HE”

[formal panther]

maybe i gotta get used to it, ive gotten more cases where the lighter springs caused me to let go slightly. ill have to change my upstroke rapid trigger distance

[polar girder]

Lolz

[harsh dove]

In other words, Thin PBT Keycaps aren’t going to be deeper

[polar girder]

There’s a handful of variables

Always

[noble wraith]

Just was trying to see if anyone has used the ceramic keycaps and if there were problems on it lol

[stark osprey]

PBTS sound nothing like Cerakeys either, that was crazy.

[noble wraith]

regards to the 60HE stock

[untold wigeon]

I have them they are fine. I even have a video of them.

[formal panther]

whats that case?

thought that was a duck viper but side profile slightly different

[noble wraith]

these are the ceramic or which are these ?

or these are the white jade?

[stone flax]

these are the amazon caps u linked

[noble wraith]

ok bet

[noble wraith]

thanks these sounds similar to something im looking for

[untold wigeon]

The ones you posted. White jade

[untold wigeon]

Chinese gh60 case. Unnamed

[noble wraith]

bet

[untold wigeon]

@quiet bay and myself run Cerakeys. While yes a spring that is too light ie. 55g or less the spacebar will either accidentally actuate or fail to rebound. So people who own them switch to heavier springs. For example I have a 100g spring on my spacebar and it’s one of my fastest actuating and rebounding switches.

Your take was disingenuous and dissuades people from trying an excellent keycap.

[neon harbor]

I read someone here test drive the RAW HEs and then the magnetic jades, what exact op force were the RAW hes? they sounded better than jades for me personally, might get em instead

[untold wigeon]

They come in 3 weights. Hard to say

[neon harbor]

found it thanks to plugin

[stark osprey]

Glad more people are trying Cerakeys these days, they were getting mad hate it seemed when I first came on here. Some of it was fair criticism regarding their irregularities, but I have to say their QC has gone up.

[noble wraith]

would you say the ceramic are better than the white jade?

[harsh dove]

Raw come in 40,50, and 60g end force weights

Real chads choose 50g

[neon harbor]

Yeah I am looking for the guy to ask which ones he was rocking

[harsh dove]

Ah

[neon harbor]

wait, does end force have any impact on sound?
if not, ill just get something similar to my current l45

[untold wigeon]

v2 qc is night and day compared to v1

[harsh dove]

Yeah v1 had stem alignment issues and fading legends but I think that’s been resolved mostly

Made your keyboard look like it had crooked teeth

[untold wigeon]

You can’t really compare the two. It’s a totally different experience.

[harsh dove]

Not really no

I’d say just quality of springs would impact the sound or if they’re unlubed

[noble wraith]

oh really what are the major differences

[untold wigeon]

@noble wraith cerakeys

[stark osprey]

Yeah I mean it still happens, I had 1 set out of 3 that had a crooked tab cap, but they replaced it, no fuss.

[noble wraith]

OH DAM thats waaay different

[harsh dove]

Oh okay nice

[noble wraith]

dam that is exactly what i was hoping for in the ceramics lol dam I may need to buy them then

[polar girder]

I have some thick heavy SA PBT coming in this week

Excited to see how they sound/feel

[untold wigeon]

Feel, typing weight, appearance, touch sensation. Cold to the touch keycaps are an experience I think everyone should have.

[polar girder]

Plus those gamakay switches

And the switch pad

[untold wigeon]

Link

[noble wraith]

That's been a main reason I want to try them lol but they are so dam expensive but would you say they are worth the price now with the changes from V1?

[harsh dove]

What if I think shiny keycaps are an experience everyone should have?

[untold wigeon]

To me, yes. I own 4 sets.

You don’t need the complete set for a 60%. You just need A&B set.

[untold wigeon]

It doesn’t get much more shiny than ceramic lol.

[polar girder]

Yessssss

[harsh dove]

Mirror finish keycaps

[polar girder]

I mean fk shiny keycaps. But that’s a legit take

[noble wraith]

Gotcha yea that's basically all I was looking at

[polar girder]

Haha

[untold wigeon]

Not mirror but close to it when clean.

[stark osprey]

They could use a font upgrade though, that's for sure. That's why my last 2 sets have been blank

[harsh dove]

lol mirror finish keycaps would be crazy

[polar girder]

https://spkeyboards.com/collections/sa-p-standard-keycaps/products/sa-standard-keycap-set-english-alpha

Tempted to try blanks but I’m not that advanced lol

I got the black on grey. The darkest grey they have

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/useless-neil-degrasse-tyson-startalk-worthless-pointless-gif-21956857

That’s a rendering

[untold wigeon]

I wish I could type by memory. I want the blanks

[polar girder]

You asked for link

Very relevant reply

I’ll send a pic when I get them. How about that lol

[harsh dove]

https://i.etsystatic.com/26198213/r/il/d4b666/3380452702/il_794xN.3380452702_fai8.jpg

Found these

Sterling silver

[untold wigeon]

I know. I wanted to see a picture not a drawing.

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/claire-dancing-baby-sunglasses-toddler-gif-17299741791937626064

[neon harbor]

reminds me of the periodic table of elements with that lil number at the bottom right

[polar girder]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/s/YZQdaVVzAM

I’m excited for these to come online

With anodizing

[untold wigeon]

They will tarnish quickly with skin oils.

[lean gull]

60 HE / alumaze / jades / ceramics / and a few mods 🙂

[harsh dove]

They likely coat it tbh

Like the 80HE zinc cases

[harsh dove]

Looks great

[untold wigeon]

What a tease. Takes away from the experience of having to polish silver

[harsh dove]

Yeah part of me thinks it’s cool for stuff to patina but also nice that it’s coated as to not leak onto your skin

[neon harbor]

geon why you do this to me

[polar girder]

That’s slick

Nice

[neon harbor]

drop sound test

[untold wigeon]

Wouldn’t hurt you. Silver is antibacterial

[harsh dove]

Now you just need the white wooting cable or a custom

[lean gull]

You are right!

[harsh dove]

I know, referring to the zinc my bad

[untold wigeon]

I sincerely hope no one ever tries to weld the zinc case without proper precautions. Would be a fatal mistake

[untold wigeon]

Table is amplifying that mofo. I like the sound though

[lean gull]

I know I have a keeb mat OTW!

[untold wigeon]

Sweet. What did you get?

[lean gull]

Just a cheaper white one from KBD

[untold wigeon]

Nice

[fluid ravine]

Configuration?

And btw is it just me or isn't your keycaps like seated all the way?

[polar girder]

This

[fluid ravine]

Oh that looks real nice

[sweet oak]

Cube

[lean gull]

Yeah so here’s the thing, I put an extra layer of dynamat in the case so the rear of the pcb is slightly tilted upright

[fluid ravine]

Well im aware of the PCB raise but im worried abt how the keycap stem is not seated all the way with the switches and stabs

Should press down every key just incase id say

If it's like that then mb

[lean gull]

You may or may not have been correct 🤦🏻‍♂️

[fluid ravine]

[lean gull]

Sorry I’m new to this 😂

[fluid ravine]

It's fine, just a lil awareness i noticed during the video

[lean gull]

Good eye, what’s crazy is I have about 10 hours gaming on it and never even noticed

[untold wigeon]

Watching Olympic sprinting right now. These guys are stupid fast.

[fluid ravine]

Personally I wouldn't mind the PCB raise cus of @quiet bay

[fluid ravine]

o damm

[untold wigeon]

Hers is all the way up. lol. 😂

[fluid ravine]

who's winning

[fluid ravine]

me if i see her keyboard

[untold wigeon]

Sprinting. Not over yet

[fluid ravine]

o

lmk

[untold wigeon]

K

[neon harbor]

enter concrete keyboard

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-end-of-teletubies-oof-gif-26682332

[neon harbor]

I wonder hows the sound profile like

[untold wigeon]

Probably very bright

[cold bloom]

I love watching the Olympics lol

[marsh saffron]

I haven't watched them for a long time

Probably like 2012?

[untold wigeon]

Yeah same. Diving is my favorite summer game. Curling or bobsled for winter

[uneven sequoia]

hey, im looking for a retro style case for the 60he. any ideas?

[marsh saffron]

Acrylic tofu redux might be up your alley

[neon harbor]

isnt it transparent? i wouldnt say its very retro, but thats just my opinion

[marsh saffron]

Definitely reminds me of my old Xbox original that was clear

The acrylic tofu isn't quite as clear though

[polar girder]

Let’s go

[drifting bronze]

I can't wait for my tofu 60 redux to come in

[cold bloom]

I love swimming mostly in summer but hockey or luge/skeleton/bobsleigh are my faves in winter

[neon harbor]

which color did you get? im debating rn... I kinda want to go for something that would pair nicely with my all black pc peripherals and an ikea idasen desk (brown desk btw)

[untold wigeon]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/305354890550?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=a_c4-ro8Tau&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=8hmdpzngt6k&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

I would totally get this and have it molded and cast in Brass

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpsons-the-simpsons-drooling-gif-8614029254724678855

[uneven sequoia]

looking for something with the style of the moondrop dash 75 kinda. im in the midde of designing a case to look like it so maybe that might be what i want

[untold wigeon]

Go for it

[polar girder]

Melgeek uses to have a full polished brass 60% lol

I think

[harsh dove]

They had electroplated gold and chrome ones for $500 each

[cold bloom]

@marsh saffron batch 1.5 of xray is up on deskhero, they also have the artisan and cable now too

Omnitype is still selling their initial stock tho, so maybe their 1.5 batch will be on sale when I can snag it lol

can't really swing it rn

@harsh dove look at this horror scene I just found

[harsh dove]

What even

[fluid ravine]

THE FUCK

[cold bloom]

looks like he used clippers and cut the switch housings where hidden screws are?

no idea

[cold bloom]

so he can make that split space layout work lmao

[harsh dove]

Like wtf

[cold bloom]

YEAH

it's supposed to be a spacebar

[marsh saffron]

Yep might order them today

[cold bloom]

like a 6.25 or 7u

[marsh saffron]

We shall see

[cold bloom]

but he put a diff pcb in

and had to cut the switches

[polar girder]

That’s disgusting

[harsh dove]

His check engine light is definitely on, I can say that much

[cold bloom]

looks like the plate isn't made for that case either lmao

[true patrol]

are jades still poppin off or is there some new hotness that eclipses them

[harsh dove]

Raw HE

Also some Gateron Jade Pro and Max got announced

[polar girder]

lol what

The fuck

[harsh dove]

Claim to have some new integrated magnet shaft and new materials

[true patrol]

I need gat to stop making their naming so stupid

[hollow tapir]

tell that to apple first

surely thats where the idea came from

[true patrol]

they already have gateron jade series g pro and it's a mech switch
so making jade pro is not going to help them

[polar girder]

Really?

Gd

Chasing the best silent HE is gonna do me in lol

I don’t really care about jades tho

[hollow tapir]

just wait for the jade 11 pro max

[true patrol]

at least apple just makes number go up and I can differentiate between models

[hollow tapir]

what is the difference between the iphone 11 pro
and iphone 11 max

[true patrol]

one is bigger

[hollow tapir]

without googling

[true patrol]

that's it

the max (technically "pro max") is the pro, but larger

[polar girder]

Is gateron switch opener worth?

[hollow tapir]

wait is the pro just a larger normal
or is there any actual difference

[true patrol]

there is the base model
the plus is the base model, but larger

the pro = better screen, faster, better cameras, etc. It is the same size as the base model
the pro max = the pro, but larger

[drifting bronze]

Just plain old all black sorry for the late response i had the same problem but you can also go for gray or silver its up to you I just got black because i can use more sets of keycaps with a black case so that's why i got black

[stark osprey]

I like it, faster than the cube. On sale atm too, got mine here: https://deskr.co/products/gateron-switch-opener?variant=41143614668961&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&tw_source=google&tw_adid=&tw_campaign=21271282972&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8fyU6cjehwMVhg2tBh096zfOEAQYAyABEgJeR_D_BwE

[polar girder]

Steal

Thank you

[harsh dove]

Worth would be subjective ig lol but I like it

[cold bloom]

any info on the announcements?

I missed that

[fluid ravine]

ughhh i need one so FUCKING bad

been over a damn year and i still dont got one, wild

butttttt, i just ordered some superlube oil

so bag lubing will be soon or in a week

yipay

but school would be started by then :<

[cold bloom]

https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-puller-opener-keycap-puller-3-pcs-dragon-and-phoenix-tool-set-accessory

then there's this

[fluid ravine]

what the hell

[cold bloom]

hahahaha I was just browsing gaterons site and saw that

"36 sold"

https://geon.works/products/frog-tkl

how clean would this be with a venom he board

[calm pulsar]

why doesnt he drop the frog mini in new colors like that

[marsh saffron]

@cold bloom probably gonna order x-ray today

[marsh saffron]

That color is hot

[polar girder]

Yo I keep saying “ok I’m done buying shit” but when does it become true

[uneven cradle]

You're gonna get lots of new frog mini leggera colours

[topaz briar]

to burger mount the 60he would i need longer screws because with the tape and o rings i dont think the screws are long enough

[uneven cradle]

They're long enough - barely

[calm pulsar]

yeah but the appeal of the frog mini was the tadpole mount, these would be a bit less interesting

to me personally I mean

[uneven cradle]

Yeah but they're also 1/4 of the originals price 🤷‍♂️

[calm pulsar]

true dat

[uneven cradle]

I think as cheaper option it'll be pretty good for the price point

[polar girder]

I just wish they didn’t call it frog mini

[true patrol]

why?

also where can one find new frog mini colors?

[sweet oak]

perhaps i will find my spare 60 switches from my twohe package and pop em in my uwu

[lofty dove]

Hello guys do you have some recommendation for keycaps on french layout ? Thanks you 😄

[drifting bronze]

Same problem over here

[lofty dove]

you search somes keycaps too ?

[polar girder]

Cu it’s just not at all a frog mini lol

[drifting bronze]

Yea I have iso french and cant find any

[lofty dove]

i find keycaps on Aliexpress but aliexpress xd

[polar girder]

Frog mini is discontinued

[drifting bronze]

Yea im looking for kbdfans or gmk but didn't find any yet

[lofty dove]

you want the keycaps i found on aliexpress ?

[drifting bronze]

Yea dm them if you want thanks

[lofty dove]

yes

[calm pulsar]

its gonna be a long night

[polar girder]

So many springs

[calm pulsar]

yeah also the ones from black jades are already in, just wish for stronger 2stage spring

[true patrol]

oh, I was confused, I thought geon was putting out new frog mini colors

who is doing the new one?

[calm pulsar]

the new frog that was linked is a tkl one

not the mini

[true patrol]

oh well now I'm even more confused. who is calling it a frog mini? the frog tkl came first lmao
the mini is literally called the mini because it's a smaller version of the frog tkl

I think I just misread something along the way and got myself lost

[calm pulsar]

well there is a frog mini (tadpole mount) that is discontinued

[true patrol]

yeah, I have two

[noble wraith]

Question so why is the raptors sold differently everywhere I found them at 3 different price points on 3 different websites lol

[hollow tapir]

name 1 product that has the same price on every website

[noble wraith]

Tru lmao

[west wave]

Does someone of you know a good website for Keycabs with a german layout? (Not Temu)

[noble wraith]

why is KBD selling it low and Geon selling them low but the shipping doubles the price

[uneven cradle]

https://www.youtube.com/live/T11gu1p_vzw

This is what I was talking about it's a lighter new version of the frog mini that is tray mounted

[hollow tapir]

akko has a lot of 150-180 key sets
(meaning theres a whole german layout included somewhere in there)

[west wave]

Do you mean akkogear

[hollow tapir]

yes

[noble wraith]

first is geon for 61 and second is KBD for 72

then amazon got 35 for 35.99 lmao

[uneven cradle]

Either way I wouldn't get either of them 🤷

[noble wraith]

🤷‍♂️

[fluid ravine]

DHL shipping xd

[uneven cradle]

I mean have you seen the price of jades it's the same thing I got mine for $43 USD for 70

[fluid ravine]

Geon from South Korea, KBD from China

Thats why shipping expensive

But Geon is a W tbh

[noble wraith]

Ahhh overseas ok didnt know that

[fluid ravine]

But the DHL express from Geon was so worth, got my RAW's in 2 days

Said 4 days ETA but came out of surprised

4 days still pretty fast to me tbh

[noble wraith]

Yea that is lol

[uneven cradle]

Korean shipping is just next level they send your shit out straight away and the courier picks it up straight away

[fluid ravine]

yup

Same day shipping type shit

[calm pulsar]

yeah they treat it like pizza delivery, just international lol

[fluid ravine]

like few hrs after you order

[noble wraith]

cause I also just saw a vid of someone frankstaining the switch and putting the stem of the lekker in the raptor housing

[fluid ravine]

real lfmao

[fluid ravine]

Tighter tolerance etc

[tidal frigate]

They are that quick?

[fluid ravine]

But problem with that is the friction when actuating the switch

cus of it being so tight

[noble wraith]

understandable

[fluid ravine]

it gets annoying instantly tbh

but overtime it could break in

[true patrol]

oh....no tadpole but it's called frog mini....gross

[noble wraith]

Im new so I havent dabbled much into switches and the different ones that can be mixed and what not

[fluid ravine]

Dr Dave told me it can tray mount and o'ring mount

or wtv

[true patrol]

are you sure the amazon ones are raptor HE? There is also just "Geon Raptor" and they're traditional 2pin mech switches

[fluid ravine]

should be much cheaper than the frog mini due to the case material

PC? Acrylic? i forgor

[calm pulsar]

also it is one part instead of 2

[fluid ravine]

It's like the implementation of the bakeneko if that makes sense

from the bakeneko CNC alu to the bakenkoGO PC case

[harsh dove]

They removed the internal weight

[fluid ravine]

Idk why they named it BakenekoGO instead of BakenGO- Alex

[somber roost]

there should be spare l60s included in the accesories box hm

[fluid ravine]

oh yea and that

[noble wraith]

https://a.co/d/0VioYYM

[uneven cradle]

It'll also work with the wooting pcb without requiring a custom plate

[true patrol]

those look like fakes, why do they have two differernt product names in the title and basically no reviews

would not trust

one piece case instead of two
different mount style
daughterboard

this is as much a frog mini as the mustang mach-e is a mustang
I'm sure it's nice, but calling it frog mini is stupid imo, it has basically 0 similarities

[noble wraith]

Yea thats why I look into it alot first

[sweet oak]

I mustve missed em, ill check again

[noble wraith]

Also found this one https://a.co/d/hm6wd10

[true patrol]

those seem more legit

[sweet oak]

Yup i found em

[calm pulsar]

yeah I was excited when I found on his stream that there's new "frog mini" stuff and then immediately disappointed that its not tadpole mount, rip
but ig as a one piece case its going to be good, for friction mounting and stuff

[true patrol]

no doubt it'll be good, geon is quality stuff, but I think we already have so many options for cases in that style that it feels a little redundant

[true patrol]

obv I can't say 'they're real' without having them, but I will say that the photos they're using are definitely of real ones. that "01A" marking (or whatever it says, can't quite make it out) is present on the real ones

[noble wraith]

Ok bet

[uneven cradle]

New venom60 pcb should fit like nearly all 60% cases

F2-60 with HE

[true patrol]

I am hoping to see some more PCB options that can compete with wooting latency. They're just objectively so fast but being locked to ANSI layout is killing me lmao

if I could get a wooting with split rshift and tsangan bottom row, and then put it in frog mini, I think it would stay on my desk for quite a long time

[uneven cradle]

I want more HE switches that don't suck

Because there's a lot of them but most of them are trash 🗑

[polar girder]

My point exactly

[sweet oak]

Waiting for deer he switches, gotta stay on brand

[uneven cradle]

True you should just buy exclusively drunkdeer products

[sweet oak]

NOOO DOMT TAKE ME THERE

[polar girder]

😈

almost time to harvest some switches

[pulsar grotto]

Idk if raptors are the best anymore bc of the ks20u and the jades and the raw he
The raptors had the best raw input but compared to those idk

[noble wraith]

how silent ?

[calm pulsar]

curious how silent switches behave in a tadpole mount

[pulsar grotto]

Lifeline still uses them but you need to stem swap them to get no wooble

[noble wraith]

I have been trying to research what is good Raptors and jades are the biggest ive seen but the jades seem to clacky for me

[pulsar grotto]

Yeah I wanted to buy the raptors from ali and was told not to bc the ks20u are better bc of the newer gen

Ks20 are worse than raptors tho

[neon harbor]

thanks for the response. Nice, black is sold out iirc 😦

[noble wraith]

so it needs to be the Ks20u ?

[drifting bronze]

You can go for silver looks really clean tho

[neon harbor]

i might go geon raw he

[pulsar grotto]

I will prob get 3 of each that I said if i can find a seller who can give them like that and compare them on my keypad

[pulsar grotto]

Yes

[noble wraith]

Id like to see more reviews but havent seen any of the others

[neon harbor]

they are better than he jades

[drifting bronze]

Go silver or gray its really clean to

[pulsar grotto]

The ks20 was the best stock switch on the sayo and the U version beats the raptors

[neon harbor]

ks20u sound like a mouse click

[pulsar grotto]

Lmao

[noble wraith]

I wish I could get a couple of each in one sample pack like this https://a.co/d/7GfQEwF

[pulsar grotto]

I will get 3 ks20u , 3 raptors , 3 raw he , 3 jades prob from 2 sellers from ali and compare them

[calm pulsar]

if yall are looking for open bottom switches you might just wait for lekker v2s

[noble wraith]

see thats why I was looking at the raptors cause I want a thonk

[pulsar grotto]

*If I find them cheap

[noble wraith]

eta on those ?

[neon harbor]

give RAW HEs a look

[noble wraith]

https://geon.works/products/geon-raw-he-switch these?

[neon harbor]

yeah, they are cheaper than the jades too

[calm pulsar]

i think once 80he are shipped v2s should be released

[pulsar grotto]

I will get them on the 80he bc they are cheap and good

[noble wraith]

Heard

[polar girder]

TBD

sound test in a shit config YouTube video looks promising tho

[calm pulsar]

link pls

[polar girder]

Hella curious

[polar girder]

https://youtu.be/36apqyGP7is?si=lwgElaAqpLRaLBj8

[neon harbor]

i dont think this guy is even typing, like, at all

[pulsar grotto]

22$ Shipping 💔

[calm pulsar]

yeah kinda weird

[noble wraith]

literally why im trying to find somewhere else to purchase casue they sound nice and what not but dam 25 in shipping is crazy

[calm pulsar]

hope they appear on ali

[polar girder]

I’ll send it back if they suck

[polar girder]

Yeah it’s a brand test video

So could be

[neon harbor]

or so gpt said

[noble wraith]

I have not found them on the first two websites lol

maybe im looking wrong tho

[neon harbor]

Try milktooths website

[noble wraith]

Not there either I saw the reviews on those as well those

only ones they have on milktooth

Dam just when I thought lol

https://a.co/d/dpACV1C

[drowsy meteor]

Shout out to whoever posted the Valasupply sale! Novelties on the way too!

[calm pulsar]

naisu

[noble wraith]

Keycaps?

[drowsy meteor]

Yes sir

[noble wraith]

noice '

[drifting bronze]

To where do i need to put the usb c slider on the tofu 60 redux for the wooting?

[polar girder]

Just line it up

[drifting bronze]

But why is the slider then?

[polar girder]

Like it moves. So you can slide it around and figure out where it needs to go then screw it down

To accommodate other PCB/ports

[calm pulsar]

one side for wooting, another for other 60% pcbs

[drifting bronze]

So to the w?

[calm pulsar]

that's the idea, I think I just moved it to W and it was aligning perfectly for me

[drifting bronze]

Ok thanks

[cedar gate]

It is good tho

[cedar gate]

50g ideal weight

[calm pulsar]

lmaooo

holy shit cleaning switches is tedious af
and I only did 10

[quiet bay]

wth ur cleaning switches?

I lubed over my previous lube multiple times

[marsh saffron]

I'm scared for when I eventually lube my dashes

[calm pulsar]

if you remember my frankenswitch, I made it with black knights upper and jade stem, black jade bottom

and mixing oil lube from BK and krytox on jade stem makes it feel bad

which is why I want to clean them and lube properly

[quiet bay]

ahh I see

good luck...

[calm pulsar]

thx 😄

[quiet bay]

its not going to be fun

[marsh saffron]

It never will be

[calm pulsar]

I'll have to lube them too after all that

I planned to do 10 each day until my gmk taiga arrives so I can just build it once everything is ready

[marsh saffron]

Praying for you

[polar girder]

lol dang

How you clean them

[quiet bay]

I'll never be bothered enough to clean my switches

[quiet bay]

esp when I dont have a thing like that to atleast hold my switches 😢

[cedar gate]

Wish they had more martial arts in the Olympics muay thai is my sport of choice

[calm pulsar]

bathe housings in warm soapy water, then clean the lube using diff brushes and stuff from a keyboard cleaning kit, also the ear cleaning things (forgot how these called in english)

the stems tho I'm afraid to put into water cause of magnets, so cleaning them with a cloth and cleaning kit

[marsh saffron]

Unless I spill something in them, me neither

[calm pulsar]

I mean if you don't encounter mixed lubes I think you dont need to clean

just relube from time to time

[marsh saffron]

Good ol qtips

[quiet bay]

yeah I only relube from time to time

maybe it's so buttery smooth because of the amount of times I've relubed over lube lol

[cedar gate]

Me who opens my switches with a 11 year old flat head I got for a few bucks in home depot

[marsh saffron]

I bought a cheapo 20 cad lube kit

Has all the tools and a thing of 205g0

Lubed 2 keyboards and 3 keyboards worth of stabs so far

Still has a small amount of lube left

Probably not enough for another 60he though

[fluid ravine]

oh hey we're the same!

[quiet bay]

If it works it works

buying a switch opener would just make ur life easier

[marsh saffron]

A lot easier

[calm pulsar]

all this talk makes me want the fancy gateron opener, probably will get one once new jade pros come out, and whatever other switches there are

[quiet bay]

I always think of the gateron opener as a nut cracker

[fluid ravine]

Stop flexy Syko >:(

[calm pulsar]

true lol

[calm pulsar]

sorry 😦

[marsh saffron]

I'm gonna be ordering pbtfans X-ray here hopefully soon

[cold bloom]

W

[quiet bay]

nicee, hopefully urs dont got paint issues 😂

[marsh saffron]

Wouldn't arrive until mid November but we up

[marsh saffron]

Mine will be batch 1.5 so hopefully not

Although I'm certainly a bit nervous

X-ray is too beautiful to not risk it

[quiet bay]

I mean it'd only be on the bottom

as long as it's not noticeable from the top

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/tack-ninga-monkey-blue-tack-sharp-tip-gif-14754240

My first switch opener