🔧│keyboard_modding

[quiet bay]

just needs some kinda lighting

[fluid ravine]

xddd

Camera identified: Nikon D3200

[quiet bay]

erm

GAH DANG

thats the first thing that pops up

[calm pulsar]

I can see kits going for around $200 here

ig it depends on the bundle

[quiet bay]

probbaly

but with those lenses

it probably costs more

[fluid ravine]

tbh idk what im looking at

[polar girder]

Other language

Lolz

[calm pulsar]

now sell it and buy a 80he

[fluid ravine]

LOL

[cold bloom]

[fluid ravine]

looks like me

big head and a empty brain

[cold bloom]

LMFAO

that ain't right

[polar girder]

Bruh

[fluid ravine]

lul

whats its like a decade old camera i think

April 19 2012

[calm pulsar]

well should be still better than a smartphone

[fluid ravine]

lol

[gleaming crow]

what is the difference between gmk CYL and their standard keycaps

[cold bloom]

CYL is their standard I believe, since they introduced new profiles like mtnu they call CYL that now for cylindrical

iirc

[fluid ravine]

alright got the camera to work, can confirm it can record things

yey

[quiet bay]

show demo 🤔

[cold bloom]

I need a DSLR sometime nothing too fancy

Just wanna be able to edit my photos more etc

[fluid ravine]

i am lost as shit rn xd

into youtube i go

[tall hollow]

thoughts on gateron KS-20U in terms of switch stability and feel?

[uneven cradle]

Dslrs have pretty much been replaced with mirrorless cameras now

[cold bloom]

yes true I forgot about that

sony a7 etc

I was looking at them the other day that's what I meant I think

[uneven cradle]

I wanna pick up the Sony A6700 or maybe the A7C II

[cold bloom]

I was looking at a used A7C

mark I

I might go that route

[tall hollow]

I have 2 A7r cameras, they are really nice.

[sour tulip]

i use my 3DS to take pictures of my keyoard

[harsh dove]

They feel fine, nothing too special about them

[cold bloom]

nice, was it the a7s or a7r that was better for video and vice versa?

[tall hollow]

better or worse than lekker V1.0?

[cold bloom]

I remember knowing more about the sony line previously but I forget

[tall hollow]

A7S is better for video/Hybrid use

[fluid ravine]

In comparison with the lekker v1's its a major upgrade in terms of stem tolerance. Both should have the same pitch as both are the same switches top to bottom, but the ks20u's stem tolerance are tighter due to the dual rail system which means that they wont have that chattery sound that you would hear in the lekkers.
So far the closest thing that would come close is the Lekker v2 as the v2 are a new generation of the lekkers with the same tighter tolerance as you expect. So Lekker v2 vs KS20u, whats the difference? Simple to say is one has dual rail and one doesnt but both have better stem tolerance than the lekker v1.

[harsh dove]

I'd say they're slightly better but not by much, what are you looking for really?

[cold bloom]

thank you, I'll have to check out the A7R again

[tall hollow]

less stem wobble and tighter housings

[harsh dove]

Do you care about open or closed bottom switches?

[honest pollen]

PLEASE MAKE A GREEN ALUMAZE60 CASE I WANT TO MAKE A GREEN AND BEIGE KEYBOARD WITH KEYCAPS LIKE THIS

[tall hollow]

open, I often use the full 4mm travel

[fluid ravine]

Well if you're coming from the v1's then it should be the upgrade you're looking for

[harsh dove]

I can recommend the Black Knights then

[cold bloom]

pbtfans emma

[fluid ravine]

Oh yeah how's the black knights @harsh dove Tbh I haven't learn jack abt them

I really missed out on them actually xd

[harsh dove]

They're pretty decent for the price, they have a box stem, it feels wobbly at first just wiggling the stem but you'll notice it helps more when pressing down

[tall hollow]

better than the dual rail design of the KS-20U?

[fluid ravine]

So as you're pressing down the box stem will help with the wobble you say?

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[fluid ravine]

i mean thats one feature of a box stem so aint too surprised there xd

[tall hollow]

how is the sound? very different or similar to Lekker V1.0?

[harsh dove]

Hmm that's a good question I haven't really compared them, I do own both

[fluid ravine]

But otherwise is still like PC, POM, and Nylon like every other?

[tall hollow]

those have a 3.6mm travel the ones you mentioned.

[harsh dove]

By hand, the Black Knights feel slightly better than the KS20U, and sound deeper/quieter

[tall hollow]

I see

[tall hollow]

looking for something that has the full 4mm travel.

[harsh dove]

They still give full travel basically, I'm not really sure why they're listed as 3.6mm when they're open bottom

[tall hollow]

oh really?

[harsh dove]

At least in Wooting Analog Monitor they do

[tall hollow]

well thats good

I will consider!

thank you!

as long as it provides a more stable key feel I am happy

[harsh dove]

Yeah and in terms of stem wobble, currently the RAW HE is the best , that may change with Lekker v2s coming out soon though and the RAW HE is a semi-closed bottom 3.4mm travel switch. But if you don't mind waiting then the Lekker v2 would likely be your best option

@tall hollow

[tall hollow]

yeah

[prime ridge]

I'm trying so hard right now not to wake up my cat....

[tall hollow]

release is imminent for those right? like after wooting 80HE SKUs are satisfied right?

[harsh dove]

Yeah it's pretty soon

[tall hollow]

thinking early Q4 or end of Q3?

[fluid ravine]

Wakey Wakey

[uneven cradle]

You think I should pick up the Raw HEs? What's the sound profile like compared to jades

[fluid ravine]

#1261492527433781320 message

Although i dont have the jades, from what Dr Dave said iirc they should have tighter stem tolerance which means noc hatter (yay!!!)

[prime ridge]

:d

[fluid ravine]

and should be louder

[tall hollow]

I wonder, does anyone have a sound sample of the Black Kight switches? just curious as to how they generally sound so I know what to expect.

[fluid ravine]

A bit louder than the jades

[uneven cradle]

Might have to pick some up

[quiet bay]

gonna wait til november to see if any better switches drop by then

only 3 months to go and then new switches here we go

I wanna feel the difference so bad ;-;

@fluid ravine how r the raw hes feeling?

[fluid ravine]

it feels good lowkey, very smooth

[tall hollow]

excited for V2!

[fluid ravine]

even out of the box

[quiet bay]

no chatter no nothing?

[fluid ravine]

nah

better than jades id say

My ears are literal chatter detectors

[quiet bay]

is it lower pitched than jades? 🤔

[tall hollow]

they sound so clean in the 80HE

[cold bloom]

thackson kills me bro

[fluid ravine]

i think higher

[quiet bay]

my lekkers still have some chatter I can hear it 😢

[fluid ravine]

Idk if its higher or louder

could be both

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[quiet bay]

hmm

[fluid ravine]

Tbh i can hear the chatter from jades loud and clear

[quiet bay]

Im hoping for something like raw hes but lower pitched to release

[quiet bay]

yeah I can def hear it too

[fluid ravine]

i mean its pretty good, i put my config with poron plate foam back in the wooting case

it Thacks

lul

[quiet bay]

I need THOCC

[fluid ravine]

u right u right mb

lul

[uneven cradle]

[quiet bay]

after adding that case foam with moleskin

my wooting has like

a deeper sound but also kind of poppy

[fluid ravine]

should i try tape mod again with raw's this time?

[quiet bay]

it feels like a thock with a clack

[tall hollow]

mine just sounds poppy lol

[quiet bay]

yee

[quiet bay]

damn it has like no chatter at all

[fluid ravine]

Fr thats why i said Thack

[fluid ravine]

seeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Our closest switch to MX

:D

alright i will tape mod in a bit

[quiet bay]

mmmm

my wooting sounds like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lp_kJNGPyI

[fluid ravine]

oh yeah frrr

[harsh dove]

Damn his pinky beats yours Thockson

[tall hollow]

only imagining how it will sound with lekker V2 switches.

[quiet bay]

hmm I feel like lekker v2 switches wont be on par with raw hes tho

[fluid ravine]

FRIK

[quiet bay]

lmao

[fluid ravine]

he got both up

gg i lost

AND THE SPACEBAR INDEX??

[tall hollow]

yeah, that open bottom will be its achilles heel.

[quiet bay]

tbh it does sound good though

from the 80he sound

very improved

[tall hollow]

mmmm, yessss

[quiet bay]

I want an 80he D:

[tall hollow]

and less stem wobble!

[harsh dove]

he different

I used to do that

Now I switched

[fluid ravine]

Damn

[quiet bay]

I just tried it

feels so weird

[fluid ravine]

yeah how the hell

[harsh dove]

He really only typing with like 2-3 fingers

[tall hollow]

also I just realized, I never changed anything about my 60HE for over a year, so the mods I did a year ago are still holding up to daily use lmaooo.

[quiet bay]

I can hear the wobble in my lekkers even with switch tape mod 😩

[fluid ravine]

OH HES DIFFERENT D:

[tall hollow]

if you can hear the wobble you can probably feel it too

[quiet bay]

indeed I still can

the amount of times I relubed these lekkers though

atleast they're buttery smooth ;-;

[tall hollow]

mine still havent been relubed since I did it a year ago, still feels smooth.

[fluid ravine]

i mean the side affect of the STM was the reduce in stem wobble

Once you take that shi out, it finne be ankle roller 1000

Honestly i didnt even know that until someone told me

glad its there though

we wouldve been suffering through the pain of the chatter and stem wobble

So say thanks again to Gewalt!

[tall hollow]

I got rid of the housing wobble with 3D printed switch films at least, but the stem wobble is still quite bad lol.

[fluid ravine]

oh yeah 3d printed films

[quiet bay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6rUk3YLsN0 this is so cool

I wanna be able to do this kinda stuff too 😔

[tall hollow]

Yeah, just print them at a 0.08mm layer thickness

Pretty easy to print as long as you have your first layer dialed in.

[cold bloom]

@polar girder

[quiet bay]

damn that's cool

[spiral anvil]

Does the raw HE have closed housings?

[latent kraken]

is there a video on how to use the ‍://blank ‍switch opener?

[harsh dove]

Semi closed

Small opening

[spiral anvil]

Shit I'm interested now

I shouldn't have opened to check the server

Wallet crying again

[harsh dove]

https://youtu.be/WN_-GYLTfpY?si=y4bEH2OURrsFHsZ3

I believe this video will show you

[harsh dove]

They’re actually fairly cheap, it’s shipping that might get you

Around $30 USD for 70 switches iirc

[spiral anvil]

.50 a pop isn't too bad

I'll wait for Divinikey to stock

Friend might buy my jades off me as well so win win

Lubing another set of switches is

I said I would be done but it's never done

[spiral anvil]

Oh wow I bought the jades for like double the price, Christ

[spiral anvil]

[calm pulsar]

yeah jades are now looking pricey with all these new switches

[spiral anvil]

Raw HE next month it is

[fluid ravine]

$33.6

[spiral anvil]

Man why do I do this myself

I don't even play competitive games anymore

[quiet bay]

dont forget about shipping 😨

[fluid ravine]

i mean its still cheaper than jades

[spiral anvil]

I just play Elden Ring nowadays

[fluid ravine]

with shipping

[quiet bay]

depends

[spiral anvil]

I'm wait for my local keyboard vendor to stock them

They get them after a month or so

[fluid ravine]

fair logic though cus jades on amazon for example is $54 or $66

[spiral anvil]

Save a shitton on shipping

[fluid ravine]

RAW 65 switches with shipping is dead on $50

[quiet bay]

damn that must be nice to have

[spiral anvil]

Yea

[fluid ravine]

so if we get RAW in our vendors like divinikeys then

shi

[spiral anvil]

Divinikey my beloved

[fluid ravine]

A new HE switch Era we go

[quiet bay]

I hope they do

[spiral anvil]

3 day shipping for like 5 bucks

[polar girder]

You like?

[tall hollow]

Yeah, having a 3D printer is nice, you can just create your own models and print them out, like these switch films!

[quiet bay]

I mean they stocked raptor hes, they should stock raw hes now right? 🤔

[spiral anvil]

Give them a month or so and probably

[fluid ravine]

yeah thats what i was thinking

[quiet bay]

I would love to design some kind of external chasse for my wooting just for aesthetic lol

[spiral anvil]

Friend can buy jades off me for like half off too

Win win

Recoup costs

[fluid ravine]

I was thinking of waiting for divinikeys as well

[quiet bay]

like im literally thinking of making it have "wings"

[tall hollow]

Lolz

[fluid ravine]

I was abt to say "Us when we can't see it"

I thought i read internal xd

[quiet bay]

I remember seeing a really cool case based off of something

I liked the design

it was custom

[spiral anvil]

I want the KAT iron novelty but it's the same price as a set of Raw HE switches for one keycap

ahhhhhh

[tall hollow]

Bakeneko 60?

[quiet bay]

it was this one

[spiral anvil]

Maybe I cnc one myself

[quiet bay]

I could design and 3d print like an external accessory

[cold bloom]

yes sir love it

[spiral anvil]

But I don't have the KAT keycap dimensions

[quiet bay]

and just double side tape it to my klippe t lol

[spiral anvil]

💀

[tall hollow]

Ooh!

[spiral anvil]

Couldn't CNC even if I wanted to

No dimensions

[tall hollow]

You have a cnc mill?

[spiral anvil]

[spiral anvil]

School does

[tall hollow]

Nice, at my workplace we use lots of CNC mills and lathes

[quiet bay]

now that I think about it why haven't people 3d printed out external accessories for their keebs to look cooler 🤔

[spiral anvil]

Perks of being the CNC specialist of the robotics team

[tall hollow]

I have printed little risers and feet out of TPU for my keyboards lol.

Because I like my keyboards at a very very specific typing angle

[quiet bay]

flip I wish I had a 3d printer

and the skills to 3d model

[tall hollow]

I was the CAD and CNC guy at my old robotics team in high school.

[quiet bay]

I need to give my wooting wings!!!!!!!!

[tall hollow]

And I did a bit of programming

[fluid ravine]

I kinda want to 3d print somethihng

[tall hollow]

Although I could never fully understand the libraries so yeah lol

[fluid ravine]

wanna print a mic mount for my fifine k688

[tall hollow]

Lmao

[fluid ravine]

Kinda dont like the ring

[fluid ravine]

Just pour some redbull on top like how CAM spilled his protein shake

heh

[calm pulsar]

lol I have this mic

[fluid ravine]

yurrr

[quiet bay]

maybe i should get a 3d printer instead of switches....

[fluid ravine]

naaaaa

[tall hollow]

Doit

[fluid ravine]

switches first :>

[quiet bay]

but the capabilities 🥺

THE CAPABILITIES TO MAKE MY WOOTING LOOK NOT PLAIN

[tall hollow]

Noh :>

[fluid ravine]

but the priorities D:

[quiet bay]

AHH'

[fluid ravine]

LOL

[tall hollow]

3D printer more capable than switches

No avtually

You can 3D printing custom switches

[fluid ravine]

literally devil and angle rn

[fluid ravine]

scratch heaven

[quiet bay]

hmm..

[calm pulsar]

imagine the tolerances

[quiet bay]

time to research budget 3d printers

[tall hollow]

Lmao

[tall hollow]

Bambu Lab A1 mini, 199 usd little boi

[quiet bay]

is it wide enough to make a casing around the wooting ?

[tall hollow]

Most average sized printers can't print 60% cases in one piece

[quiet bay]

dang I guess I'd have to print half

[tall hollow]

Hence why the bakeneko 60 is a 2 piece design

[quiet bay]

hehehe ima have fun with this one

this would be a nice lil project

although I should be doing my summer homework instead but

[tall hollow]

imagine having homework during the summer, lololol

[quiet bay]

[tall hollow]

Speaking of work, I might finally be able to work tomorrow, after that Crowdstrike incident.

At least half of the remote desktops will be available. At least that is what one of the IT guys told me.

[quiet bay]

Their stocks are down 11% now

[spiral anvil]

Crowdstrike incident was

[atomic monolith]

should be down 100%

[spiral anvil]

Shut down like half the world

😭

[tall hollow]

Man don't even, our IT department is suffering right now, some of them haven't slept for 2 nights 💀

[spiral anvil]

How does one fuck up that bad

💀

[atomic monolith]

They did it before, got warned, didn't change anything lol

and all of those companies giving them root access kinda screwed up as well

[spiral anvil]

Christ

💀

[tall hollow]

No clue, but we got hit hard, 80% of our devices are windows devices.

[spiral anvil]

Rip

[tall hollow]

All of them had the faulty drivers installed on them.

[spiral anvil]

OOF.

[glacial wind]

If you watch that eyejoker video he was roughly comparing the lekker v2 in computex vs his raw he in parts

[tall hollow]

Mhm, also most of them have bitlocker enabled. So even more pain.

[glacial wind]

Obviously those are pre production switches of both though, but he did get a rough play around to compare the wobble

[spiral anvil]

Yea yikes

Good luck

O7

[tall hollow]

Oh, that's not my job, but yeah, best of luck to our IT department lol. I feel really bad for them.

It's just a huge mess

[spiral anvil]

Any cloud backups they can restore from?

[tall hollow]

For the most part, but the annoying part is getting every PC into recovery mode.

[fluid ravine]

Watching Val G2 vs Lev rn with my nephew, the amount of wooting cables is insane xd

[atomic monolith]

On April 19, 2024, it was reported that a flawed software update pushed on a Friday evening was incompatible with up-to-date Debian Linux builds, despite being supported. A week later that caused all of the servers in the lab to crash and refuse to subsequently boot.
This was the warning shot

[spiral anvil]

Figures

[fluid ravine]

gah damn

[atomic monolith]

but it's so incredibly insecure to have the same software running @ root on so many critical systems. Something like this was a good outcome. A vulnerability exploited by a bad actor would be so much worse (and it's likely that would happen long before and of us knew about it)

[spiral anvil]

At least it's salvagable

[spiral anvil]

Ransomware with this would be 💀

[tall hollow]

Most of these kinds of software have to run on kernel level anyways lol.

[calm pulsar]

Prepared my full black fr4 plate with black standoffs and screws so that NOTHING can be seen under the keycaps

cause rn I can see the steel standoff screws on my black pom plate

[atomic monolith]

To do some things, yes. But at one point you are making things less secure instead of more.

Having incompetents push closed-source stuff with root access to your machine arbitrarily is extremely questionable

[tall hollow]

It is, but I don't make the rules unfortunately. Company wants this software on their computers then so be it.

[atomic monolith]

Hopefully more than a few rethink after these fiascos 👍🏻

[spiral anvil]

Glad I wasn't personally affected

Everyone seems to be getting shafted

[calm pulsar]

a lot of data centers for a huge client at work went down, so we had to sort them all out

[atomic monolith]

It took out banks, supermarkets and the national healthcare system in the UK

[quiet bay]

opened up fusion 360

time to learn how to model

[tall hollow]

Aye!

Onshape is better tho /j

[quiet bay]

we're starting somewhere...

I have no idea what the hell im doing rn

[tall hollow]

It is a start

Could look at bakeneko 60 for inspiration

They use the standard 60% tray mount

[quiet bay]

ohh Im just using my klippe t for reference rn

it's at an 8 degree angle I think

[tall hollow]

Oh I see

[crimson sky]

the bakaneko is entirely open source

[fervent urchin]

youtu.be/Feny5bs2JCg

His new software Update is GOD! When in wooting? I'm Late , Rapy Snapy (wooting) is the Original!

[crimson sky]

nice link

[fervent urchin]

@crimson sky Razer copy Rapy Snapy by wooting

[crimson sky]

sure

you mean killswitch by realforce?

[loud zephyr]

So what's going to happen when this shit becomes the norm? When reality hits that the playing field is even, and you really haven't improved that much at all. Give me a mouse that can hit 99% headshots instead

[safe rover]

anyone got the WS Dash or Sticky Rice switches in their wooting and can vouch ?

[tawdry tree]

2nd gen Sticky Rices (closed bottom) work, my friend has them. 1st gen Sticky Rices do not. WS Dashes are a Jade recolor so they work perfectly.

[safe rover]

damnnnnnn

[safe rover]

so the everglide Sticky rice switches up on milktooth rn?

[tawdry tree]

No, those are the 1st gen Sticky Rices. They cause problems so won’t work.

[safe rover]

sad times, liked the way they sounded too

[rich cape]

I can vouch for Black Knights if you have any interest in those

[zenith pollen]

how long does the tester 68 last?

[tawdry tree]

😮

[sleek hinge]

hi everyone, building my first keyboard, wondering what some good keycaps are please? with the research i have done, im thinking PBT doubleshot is the best for me. thanks 🙂

[crimson sky]

but why

if you wanna let me customize the sound give me different top housings

instead of just doing nylon bottom PC top

[tawdry tree]

this is innovation, they said so

so it’s true

😂🥴

[crimson sky]

[tawdry tree]

PBTFans, or if you want shine through Wooting’s caps are good as well.

[sleek hinge]

i cant find PBTfans avaliable, do they release collections frequently etc

[uneven cradle]

You just have to sort by in stock

[glacial wind]

dam 40g, you went light

[elfin garnet]

Got these today. I like them, but springs on a lot of mine are really bad. Pingy af

[glacial wind]

yeah there's no lube on the inside, you need to bag lube them

[elfin garnet]

Yeah I have two stage springs coming in from AE. Gonna swap them out anyway

[tawdry tree]

@fluid ravine and that has 70 written on it?! 😂😂💀

[shrewd fiber]

stupid question, is it worth switching from jade to raw he?

[glacial wind]

i'd say depends on how much you care about tightness of the stem

the raw he are definitely a step tighter

[fading anvil]

Can i use 3rd party switches on my wooting

[glossy pagoda]

Some but not all. Here's an overwhelming chart with all the options

[fading anvil]

Thank you, i wanna get into like keyboard switches n stuff thisll help

im really into like light switches because of osu and i dont like putting force

how do i find out if its light?

[glossy pagoda]

You want to look at the force for the switches. The "default" if their is one is 60, which matches what we've got preinstalled on our keyboards: L60s. Below that you can get L45 switches or you can get L30 springs that you can use to replace the springs of other switches

[fading anvil]

the WS Dash looking good right now

yeah ill probably get thoses, thank you

[glossy pagoda]

Enjoy 🙂

[acoustic mesa]

I installed WS Dash yesterday.
I can vouch, they are awesome

Much better typing experience in terms of feel and sound. Even on stock 60HE.

Who's got an aluminum case (Alumaze or anything else)? How does the sound profile change with it? Is it worth upgrading? I initially thought I would 100% switch to a sturdy metal slab, but the stock plastic case is honestly not too shabby after all.

[acoustic mesa]

what's stock Lekker gf for the new 60HE batches? 30/45?
To me WS Dashes seem stronger than the Lekkers, but the chart says they are only 5g more

[glossy pagoda]

Default switches on keyboards (excluding UwU) are L60s

[acoustic mesa]

How come I feel more resistance on WS Dash then? O_o

[glossy pagoda]

No idea, never used Dashes myself

[grave tulip]

i have sticky rices and have no issues w them

[acoustic mesa]

Is it me, or is Wooting 80HE lowkey unfriendly to modding on purpose? Makes you think

[glacial wind]

How so?

[acoustic mesa]

Unpopular layout instead of 75% from what I can see.
Harder to find a good case to the contrary of 60HE.

I may be wrong, but from the looks of it...

[glacial wind]

That’s not how case modding works in non 60% cases though

[wraith widget]

Very hard to find a case for it yeah but you got the zinc alloy case so who cares

[glacial wind]

Even if you pick a tkl format you cannot case swap between 2 gasket mount tkl cases easily like you can in 60% tray mount cases

[acoustic mesa]

True, but there's at least some choice out there and there are some interchangeable layouts out there.

[glacial wind]

Not really. Mounting differences have you stuck

For example find a 75% gasket mounted pcb and try to see what compatible cases you can find from other manufacturers

You’ll find that it’s incredibly slim pickings because they all mostly require you to design a custom plate

Having the same layout is only step 1 of swapping a case, but those looking from the outside incorrectly assume that same layout means you can swap easily

[acoustic mesa]

Well, I mean there is 2 ways of designing it:

1. Researching the market and coming up with a design that has at least some modding in mind, albeit scarce.
2. Making a completely unique layout that has no custom modding in mind whatsoever. Then making unique cases for that layout to lock the customers inside for that purpose.

[glacial wind]

No I don’t think you’re getting it though

The reason case swapping is harder is due to everyone having different mounts

[mighty egret]

yeah

[glacial wind]

even the most standardized format beyond 60%, h87 standard which is what the geon venom tkl HE pcb uses - it still required custom plates for each of the cases in order to fit

[mighty egret]

the reason the 60he was so easily moddable wasn't the fact it was a 60% it was just a standard tray mount

[austere creek]

we tried to research the market for our 80he for example and people claimed theres third party cases for other TKLs but often it was only the same manufacturer. we decided to just try and push a standard and will of course release our design files as always. we also had case manufacturers contact us already to make 80he cases of their own design (although idk if or when those would drop)

[mighty egret]

wooting has said that at the end of this year they'll release files for third party cases

[mighty egret]

ah beat me to it

[glacial wind]

I get where you’re getting this narrative of locking customers into only your own case (it was a popular reddit take early on) - but it’s a take that was only spread by people who don’t know how keyboard modding works

Reality is unless you design the custom mounting plates yourself for all alternative cases then you’re stuck with a lack of swappable options regardless

[austere creek]

and we are also still open for people to contact us with a layout that already has existing third party case markets other than DZ60/GH60

[e-mail]

and make sure to include as many links and as much info as you can

[clever flower]

do i want to use both the tofu60 redux foam and the one that comes with the module or just one?

[polar girder]

Just one

I tried both but it didn’t really fit and caused me sensor issues

But play around and maybe works for you

[clever flower]

just did the tofu one now and it fits pretty well, just dont know what to do with the wooting one

[polar girder]

It’s ok to not use it

[austere creek]

keep it somewhere

just in case you ever need it

[clever flower]

in the box it goes

[acoustic mesa]

Welp if that's the case, I take my words back

[clever flower]

think my caps are hitting the switches.. rip

[tawdry tree]

how thick are your caps?!?!

[clever flower]

pretty thin tbh but north facing rgb with cherry profile

wait no.. its only the backspace so far

weird

[tawdry tree]

shouldn’t be an issue

[tawdry tree]

stabs?

[clever flower]

could be

Think it turned out good.. any thoughts?

could add tape mod but i dont think it needs it

[austere creek]

we definitely welcome the feedback though. thanks for that 😄

[acoustic mesa]

How do you feel about SAs on that? They are glossy, holy

[polar girder]

SA profile ?

That doesn’t look like SA

[prime orbit]

I was looking at some keycaps on AliExpress and they kinda look like they got like printed on. Should I trust those or just pay the extra for a quality set?

[acoustic mesa]

Yeah, my eyes locked on the esc button and I thought it was SA

[polar girder]

Yeah it’s a curious design. Made me think the keycaps were still in the plastic tray lol

[clever flower]

They’re cherry profiles. Keychron set. Not the best but i liked how they looked so i went for them. Will probably upgrade later

[prisma stump]

Sound test?

[clever flower]

that i forgot xD

[prisma stump]

[clever flower]

how to record sound only on pc?

[prisma stump]

Audacity

And a microphone

[clever flower]

sweet, lemme download it real quick

the space is very thocky but nothing else..

[stray tiger]

Too many variables to summarize easily in a discord reply. Depends on quality of aluminum, thickness of aluminum, volume, etc. The better question would be what sound profile/change you're loking to make and yes the stock case is pretty good!

[drowsy meteor]

The coiled cables work fine with tachyon right?

I’m trying to decide if I want to pick one up for my 80he

[tawdry tree]

Wooting’s Coiled cables? Yes.

[drowsy meteor]

Yes

[tawdry tree]

They work perfectly with tachyon.

[sweet oak]

duck!

[drowsy meteor]

Are the Gateron jades dual rail or just ks-20u?

[harsh dove]

Just 20U

[drowsy meteor]

Ok I just got those

[fluid ravine]

Morning!

[calm pulsar]

hye

just did my first gummy oring mount, sounds way better than burger mount

switches have dried out and the stabs need tuning, but I can tell the outer keys sound better now

[elfin garnet]

Quick RAW HE totally raw sound test. Not done anything to them

[harsh dove]

Morning

[drowsy meteor]

Sounds pretty good to me

I just ordered some ks-20u might try some more stuff later though

I found out my sticky rices aren’t good my board even though I like them

[elfin garnet]

I think so too. Some scratchy sounds here and there because of the springs not being lubed but I'll swap those out asap

[drowsy meteor]

Are they normal sized springs?

[elfin garnet]

The ones I'm swapping to?

[drowsy meteor]

In the switch in general

[harsh dove]

If you mean normal as in MX size then no

HE springs are bigger

[elfin garnet]

HE switches has wider springs than MX

[fluid ravine]

Sounds so raw, i like

[elfin garnet]

Yes. Excited for the Gugu BKs and two stage springs too. See what we can do

[harsh dove]

Thockson is holding my RAW HE for ransom

[elfin garnet]

nah he needs to send them to you asap

express shipping

[polar girder]

lol I told him I could get him a UPS shipping label too

[calm pulsar]

I heard the BK stem is good with raw hes

add two stage springs to that and its an even better switch

[elfin garnet]

So I've heard too. We'll see

[harsh dove]

Likely what I’ll try

Box stem and dual stage springs

Might even try black jade bottoms to make em look like nixies almost

[calm pulsar]

liking this

[harsh dove]

I need to make a sound test with my Tofu, I feel like @polar girder would like it, it’s quiet

[calm pulsar]

though havent you found out that BK stem doest work well with jades bottom? magnet force wise

[harsh dove]

And believe it or not I’m using Alu plate and lavenders

[harsh dove]

Yeah so I’ll have to test if they’re even good with the stock raw bottoms first

Otherwise maybe try raptor stems

But probs won’t be tight

If it even fits the top housing

[calm pulsar]

is the raptor stem close to gateron? if yes might not fit like the gateron stem

[harsh dove]

It’s slightly smaller iirc? I’d have to double check

But I think it is cause the lekker stems are tight in the raptor housing

If the raptor stems work it’ll be even closer to nixie

[cold bloom]

I want a set of nixies so bad haha

[calm pulsar]

nice boobs

[cold bloom]

Black jades came in this lmao

[quiet bay]

the first thing i thought of when I saw that was a burrito

[quiet bay]

ahh alright I'll take the measurements from that instead then

[elfin garnet]

looks like a key of coke lol

[harsh dove]

Don’t buy the OG ones

Just get the new ones

Unless you wanna “flex” ig but no one will care that much

[harsh dove]

Should’ve seen how my Kailh Mistrals came

Was packed like drugs or sumn

[gleaming crow]

Anyone know which size graveshift oring I need for the old 60he (not +)

Small or medium for a tofu redux

[harsh dove]

Medium

[polar girder]

Yeah Alu plate is tempting bro

I like the idea of it for sure

[harsh dove]

Yeah I’m surprised how quiet this is

Feel like you’d like it

[polar girder]

I low key want alu, nylon and CF just to compare them

[calm pulsar]

w/ the frog it should be great

[polar girder]

But I don’t quite got it like that rn lol

[harsh dove]

To me it was hard to get it right

POM was easier

[polar girder]

Yeah I don’t think hypekeyboarss has alu rn for frog idk

[stray tiger]

You know it's going to cause some actuation inconsistencies but you love punishing yourself

[calm pulsar]

yeah I remember you mentioned that
what was wrong specifuically? the sound? I feel like HE switches have to be lubed well or else alu wll amplify the high pitch noises

[harsh dove]

Masochist as its finest

[polar girder]

G20 hella low tho

[harsh dove]

You know I love testing stuff Tirade

[polar girder]

Need that SA

[harsh dove]

I felt so dumb after figuring out why the box stems wouldn’t work with closed bottom

[polar girder]

Lolz

[harsh dove]

Seemed like such a simple answer and I was banging my head against the wall over it

Hit up tirade and he’s like bro… they’re open bottom stems

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-huh-stupid-idiot-gif-5042504

[polar girder]

You think that GQT would look good with black legends?

[polar girder]

This pic is GSF with black legends

[acoustic mesa]

Space sounds really nice!

[polar girder]

Scared GQT might be too light idk

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[quiet bay]

well..

[harsh dove]

I like the gunmetal grey

[polar girder]

Yeah I might have to do it

With the black frog

[harsh dove]

Why I like GMK stealth tbh

Has a nice gunmetal gray to it

[calm pulsar]

where you taking off

[polar girder]

Yeah that’s hot

Dig

[quiet bay]

the next wootup!!

jk im broke

[elfin garnet]

Is GMK Shashin the same gray or just looks like it?

[acoustic mesa]

Let me show you what I'm after in terms of the sound.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgDCEjMvbK4 - I have pretty much the same novatouch with the same keycaps and the same sound. Saddly it's back home, not with me.
I totally understand the switches are Topre there and it's a plastic case on a Novatouch, but I'm kinda looking after the same sound as on the video. Really muffled and barely audible thocky sound. Currently my WS Dashes give me something close to that, but still a little bit clacky. Looks like the main factor here is probably the switches, but who knows, maybe a different (aluminium) case would make it even less audible?

[elfin garnet]

nah yours is like a blueish dark grey

[calm pulsar]

I want gmk redline but with the mods the same color as alphas

[polar girder]

Yo am I crazy for wanting to buy both of these add-ons?

Seems necessary to make it look good. Idk

[calm pulsar]

what is the main set?

[polar girder]

Both in dark grey obviously

Not the colors just the legends

All keys would be like a gunmetal grey with black legends

But just seems like I would want like stock Wooting keycap looking legends for mods with some words and some symbols

Seems to look the best and make the most sense to me idk

Extra $20 per mod kit not horrible

Like Icon: shift, caps, tab, enter, backspace.

Text: Ctrl, Super, Alt, Escape

[harsh dove]

Looks similar

[calm pulsar]

oh I thought at first that you want contrasting colors
well to me mods full key names are cleaner

[harsh dove]

Yeah a little bit

That’s a render you posted tho

[elfin garnet]

yeah just grabbed the first thing I found. Yours is better looking imo

[polar girder]

Yeah my bad. Was just the only picture they had for it

[polar girder]

Yeah text kind of looks neat on SA too how it’s centered

I’m not totally sure if I love it or not tho lol

[calm pulsar]

yeah that's what I like about it

[elfin garnet]

I prefer text mods tbh

[polar girder]

Bummer no Fn tho lol

Ok yeah screw the icons lolz

Easy enough thanks gang

[tawdry tree]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message
#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[polar girder]

Ordered.

[calm pulsar]

naisu

[tawdry tree]

LMAO FR

[calm pulsar]

damn the more I type on friction mount the more I love it
even beat my wpm score

and Im still on my dry ass jades and untuned plate mount stabs lol

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, slightly.

[harsh dove]

Thank you sir

[tall hollow]

I am wondering, will the Lekker V2 be the same price as Lekker V1.5? or will it increase due to stuff like R&D and New tooling and such?

[harsh dove]

Oh I was referring to analog monitor testing

Cause the BK box stems seem to not like closed bottoms

[calm pulsar]

kinda weird since gateron stems work the same in jades and lekkers, if I understand correctly

[tawdry tree]

First message link.

^

[harsh dove]

Yeah same happens with black jade bottoms

Good to know

[calm pulsar]

maybe there is going to be some transition time after which it becomes the base switch and v1.5s are not sold/put into prebuilt keebs anymore

[harsh dove]

Basically want it to at least be 3.5mm or closer to 4mm

Should not be the case with 80HE tho

[tall hollow]

yeah, I think they indicated that in some announcement somewhere

[calm pulsar]

oh so it explains why gateron stem is fine in jades and lekkers then

[tawdry tree]

I might be able to test the strength of the magnets finally but not in Gauss. Only the difference between switches. KS-20s could be a base line, not sure yet.

[harsh dove]

Yeah I think the BK magnet is too weak to get thru the closed bottom properly it’s weird

Or not necessarily thru it but since it’s reduced travel, it doesn’t reach the magnetic flux fully

With that stem

[tawdry tree]

Yeah ofc

[calm pulsar]

I wonder if stock BKs function normally then, if they seem to be weaker than gateron magnets

[harsh dove]

They do

With open bottom

They reach 4mm without issue

[calm pulsar]

➖GМK Minimal ➖GМК Раnеls ➖GMK Mictlan - Рареl Picado ➖GМK Dualshot R2 ➖GМK Draсula ➖GМК Сlаssiс Blаck оn White ➖GMK Obliviоn Regular Basе ➖GМК Obliviоn Git Bаse ➖GМK Thinkсарs ➖GMK Fuji - Lаtin Ваsе ➖GMK Redline ➖GМK Сyrillic WoB ➖GMК Symbiоtе ➖GМК Firеfly ➖GМК Вirсh ➖GМК Dеku ➖GМК Моdеrn Dоlсh 2 ➖GМК НаmmеrНеаd Light Ваsе ➖GМК Веntо R2 ➖GМК WоВ Каtаkаnа ➖GМК Аvаnguаrdiа ➖GМК Соlоrсhrоmе ➖GМК Воtаniсаl R2 ➖GМК Еаrth Тоnеs ➖GМК Rоyаl Саdеt ➖GМК Сubеd 3 ➖GМК Dоts ➖GМК Grеg ➖GМК Rudy ➖GМК Таigа ➖GМК Меrсury ➖GМК Тruffеlsсhwеin

hmm what should I get from this local seller

[tawdry tree]

Red line 🖤❤️

[calm pulsar]

do you have it? I was looking for builds with it on wootstations but havent found any

[polar girder]

Stock BK or any open bottom bottom housing probz

[untold wigeon]

new keycaps opinions ?

[polar girder]

It’s giving Noctua

I like

Lucious color

Kind of a lot going on with the white pc plate and black case tho

[calm pulsar]

pbtfans dracula, liking the mod red color

[untold wigeon]

its dracula themed, im planning to buy a red tofu redux 60

[tawdry tree]

I don’t. The builds I’ve seen with it look great though and I like black and red. 😊

[tall hollow]

ooh, those are nice

[polar girder]

Man. I think I’m fking done

Except new cable

Fine with PP plate for now

Not sure I care enough to buy Raw’s

To use top housing on black knights

I do love a good frankenswitch tho lolz

[tall hollow]

polypropylene?

[calm pulsar]

if you like open bottoms the most then ig you can just wait for lekker v2s

[tall hollow]

Soon™️

[polar girder]

Yeah lol

[polar girder]

Yeah idk if that will do it for me

Honestly I don’t even know if I’ll prefer BK over my stem swapped raptors

Really just want quietest and lowest. Just trying BK cuz black top housing lol

[tall hollow]

thats an interesting plate material, how is it?

[calm pulsar]

well you can actually order raw he's and also check out a semi-closed bottom switch

it may be not as quiet but who knows maybe you'll like the feeling

actually I think getting a frog and not trying anything closed bottom is a crime lmao, but thats just me

[untold wigeon]

Hammerhead

[polar girder]

I like it. My only other reference is Wooting steel and PC

I prefer it to PC

[polar girder]

Meh I mean maybe

All I want is lowest quietest sound

Closed bottom seems not that lol

[fluid ravine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr826KAalfw

haha

well well well isn't it cerakey's

[tall hollow]

I can see how it has a different sound profile than PC, PP is a Semicrystalline polymer which makes it differ from PC which is an Amorphous polymer.

[calm pulsar]

yeah the light base of it seems nice, though im not that big of a fan of high contrast sets

[harsh dove]

Wait till you hear this tofu

[polar girder]

What about aluminum or nylon?

Also curious to try those

[polar girder]

I’m waiting

[harsh dove]

At work

[tall hollow]

Aluminum is just a metal, Nylon is Semicrystalline similar to PP

[exotic inlet]

I love that set of keycaps, but is too expensive

[calm pulsar]

it is true, i was just saying as more of a something to try later, in case you get bored of the sound and feel

currently it seems that raw he upper with BK stem and open bottom is one of the best combinations for open bottoms

[tall hollow]

then again there are different fomulations of Polyamides Like PA6, PA66, PA12, etc.

and Nylons can exist in both Amorphous and semicrystalline states.

both of which have different material properties

[polar girder]

Yeah nylon seems pretty similar to PP so tempted not to buy

[polar girder]

Right. Yeah I’ll see if I like the BK first then maybe cop the Raw’s in future

Play around with closed bottoms and franken it up

[cold bloom]

Yeah there’s a site here that sells vintage ones as well as some that are lubed filmed and spring swapped

[harsh dove]

Yeah they be expensive

[fluid ravine]

GMK boob!!!!

[calm pulsar]

gmk nsfw

[fluid ravine]

lul

[stray tiger]

Firefly is one of my all time favs

[calm pulsar]

yeah I like it
the base colour is really nice and it's cool that caps and tab text are slightly diff colors

[prisma stump]

ValaSupply should be having a summer sale with 50% off every item

Idk if that still exists

Yeah it still exists

Am I allowed to post the link? They sell keycaps

And other stuff

https://vala.supply/

I recommend you guys check it out to see if anything interests ya’ll :D

[calm pulsar]

thanks for the heads up!

[quiet bay]

damn those are good sales

[calm pulsar]

gmk maroon so sexyy

[drowsy meteor]

So I haven’t had GMk keycaps have yall ever had them shine?

I normally stick pbt for that reason

[harsh dove]

They all shine

[calm pulsar]

they shine quite fast, but thats the charm

[harsh dove]

You embrace it

PBT shines eventually too

Just takes longer

They feel better after shine on GMK

Call me weird but PBT almost too smooth for me

I like the feel of GMK abs

[ornate saffron]

just slapped the 60HE into a concrete grey alumaze60 and i am crying with joy this is so amazing 😭

[cold bloom]

I love the concrete colour

[calm pulsar]

I agree, just sold my pbtfans wob today lol

[ornate saffron]

my first metal keeb, I am gonna be spoiled rotten now

[harsh dove]

Yeah I love my BoG from Cannonkeys aka Tirade but it’s like super smooth lol

Need to break them in more probs tbh

Haven’t used them a whole lot

[fluid ravine]

yea my gmk lost all of its texture

[harsh dove]

Already?

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[harsh dove]

Bro you must leak body oils lol

[fluid ravine]

LOL

[calm pulsar]

wait so Thockfather is owner of Cannonkeys?

[harsh dove]

No lol

[fluid ravine]

LOL

[harsh dove]

He sent me these

[calm pulsar]

ohh lmao

[harsh dove]

Would be cool af if he did own a store tho

I’d buy all his stuff

[fluid ravine]

The Thock Family Store type shi

I'd buy his stickers

[harsh dove]

ThockFather.com

[fluid ravine]

cus thats all i could afford

lul

[harsh dove]

I was first

[sweet oak]

ThockFatherSales.woot

[fluid ravine]

FLIP

[sweet oak]

He sent stickers!?

So cool

[calm pulsar]

thoocking 60he

[harsh dove]

Yeah lol

[sweet oak]

I cant wait to take his alhambra keycaps

[calm pulsar]

if there was a pbt set with the same double shot tech as gmk I would want to try it out

gmk's outer shell is the same part as the stem, I think this is why they feel so nice and sound brighter in a good way

[uneven cradle]

there is it's called GMK MTNU

[harsh dove]

Yeah nothing is better than GMK spacebars

And yeah MTNU is their new PBT line I believe

Don’t really care for the profile tho

[uneven cradle]

first 100% double shot PBT keycaps

[calm pulsar]

yes but not cherry lul

[harsh dove]

Yeah it’s true 100% PBT

Whereas others are usually a mix

[uneven cradle]

i wanna try it out not too sure on the profile though

[harsh dove]

Same

[polar girder]

Yeah I’m down for the profile except it’s shallow

I want that deep cut

[calm pulsar]

there is also a gmk keycap

[drowsy meteor]

GMk zen for this combo?

[polar girder]

SA style

[uneven cradle]

also there's something about the ABS sound signature and feel that makes it tough to go back to PBT for me

[calm pulsar]

yeah I think it fits nicely

[drowsy meteor]

I think it would bring it together might have to contact wooting to switch the color on my wrist rest to white though

[calm pulsar]

hmm MTNU profile actually has different rows, I thought it was all the same across all rows

[polar girder]

That’s MT3

I think

Maybe not lol

I forget

[calm pulsar]

it seems similar but mtnu are not that tall I think

[harsh dove]

It’s closer to Cherry but with shallow edges

Actually doesn’t seem terrible

[calm pulsar]

haha yeah

[harsh dove]

But don’t they center the legends?

I don’t like centered legends

[calm pulsar]

yeah the are centered

[harsh dove]

Gross

[calm pulsar]

actually on rounded edges i think non-centered would look weird

[drowsy meteor]

What plate comes on the 80he?

[harsh dove]

Probably

I guess it’s not that bad

Just biased

[drowsy meteor]

Looks kind of wonky to me

[uneven cradle]

can always get a blank set

[safe rover]

I need thocky key caps to go with my WS dash switches

[calm pulsar]

pc

[cold bloom]

this is cool but I much prefer pbs as a profile myself

https://mvkb.com/classic-pbs/

these look so dope

I need to try a set

[harsh dove]

Check out Mode Anthracite

[calm pulsar]

https://cannonkeys.com/products/pbs-black-on-black-bob

kinda cool

[polar girder]

Yeah that’s sweet lol

[cold bloom]

will do

[calm pulsar]

tho pbs seems to have even rows height

[cold bloom]

yeah it does

[uneven cradle]

pretty low profile keycaps

[cold bloom]

I kinda dig it

I'll probably get a set eventually

[cold bloom]

I was just looking at those, it says they're a cherry profile

they do look clean tho

[harsh dove]

Ah yeah I wasn’t referring to profile just color based on those beige ones you posted

Or that Sweater Weather set

[drowsy meteor]

Ok great

Picked these up

[cold bloom]

oh okay I just meant I wanna try pbs profile, not sure which I'd get tho

[safe rover]

What do you guys recommend for a nice thocky set

[calm pulsar]

naisu

[harsh dove]

Ah yeah idk a lot of pbs sets

[polar girder]

PBS

that’s what I had it confused with

[drowsy meteor]

Pbtfans has a fair few

[cold bloom]

raw HE switches vs black jades, goes raw, jade, raw, jade again

I think they sound similar-ish, raw HE has noticeably less spring noise stock

[calm pulsar]

yeah raw hes seem to be cleaner

[cold bloom]

agreed

[polar girder]

https://cannonkeys.com/products/pbs-black-on-black-bob

Also from Mat3o lol

[calm pulsar]

I gotta make sure to lube springs well when I frankenstein BK and black jaderinos

[harsh dove]

Out of all of them?

In terms of spring noise

[cold bloom]

My jade springs are lubed so probably Raw HE, lubed spring jades, black jades stock so far

I think the black jades are similar to what I remember stock jades sounding like

[ornate saffron]

the stock keyboard cover doesn't fit the alumaze, dang

[cold bloom]

just don't have any to compare it back to

[drowsy meteor]

I like this chat so much better than the rappy one 😆

[drowsy meteor]

I went for ks-20u for my base set

[ornate saffron]

that place is pretty awful right now

[drowsy meteor]

Then I’ll experiment from there^

[calm pulsar]

for sure, I literally only visit this chat
only visited rappy snappy after optimums video lol

[drowsy meteor]

Atleast people aren’t being really mean anymore

It was like a blood war yesterday

Now everyone is just beating a dead horse jokingly

[ornate saffron]

i think this will just blow over and not even be a conversation in a week. but off topic lol

still can't get over this alumaze. damn thing is planted to my desk

[drowsy meteor]

Its pretty entertaining though the claw machine shit was funny

[drowsy meteor]

I have a tofu with a brass weight I didn’t try that one

I wonder if it’s heavier

[ornate saffron]

I almost got a tofu but they got me with the strap ahaha. marketing gimmicks ftw

[calm pulsar]

https://vala.supply/products/gmk-maroon

gimme

[ornate saffron]

and I bet the dust cover would fit with a tofu but oh well

my only concern is that no one makes a dust cover for this size

or I could just get over it, I never used one before this

[calm pulsar]

yeah I mean I just dust off my keeb from time to time

[drowsy meteor]

Y’all want to see the best key cap ever?

[quiet bay]

🤔

[safe rover]

If it’s thocky then yes cause that’s what I’m looking for lol

[drowsy meteor]

😆 it’s a meme

[safe rover]

AYO

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/aye-ayy-lmao-lmao-alien-dancing-gif-5313527

[safe rover]

Lmao

[drowsy meteor]

It’s kind of sick though I like it

Green ranger was always the best so

[polar girder]

BUT DO IT THOCK THO?!???

[harsh dove]

So you feel like the RAW HE has the least amount of spring noise?

[harsh dove]

This is our home for a lot of us

It’s chill here

[drowsy meteor]

I’m grade A ass at lubing Hall effect switches tbh

Probably need to practice

Or advice

[cold bloom]

I do yeah

[calm pulsar]

all I can say is dont overlook lubing springs because on HE they are more noisy

[harsh dove]

https://youtu.be/WN_-GYLTfpY?si=L77PifPnSpMgWTXa

[drowsy meteor]

Yeah I’ve watched this I still suck at it

[calm pulsar]

are the springs different on raw he? like size, length etc

[drowsy meteor]

I have a l60 set I can practice on though

[calm pulsar]

would love to see a comparison

[harsh dove]

Alright , ill have to test that out myself, tirade said he felt like they had a bit of ping but he didn’t compare them to anything or at least didn’t give me a comparison afaik

[cold bloom]

good question, I'd assume so but I'll check later when I have time

[cold bloom]

yeah they do faintly, not as noticeable tho in a back to back comparison

esp with the stock black jades

[harsh dove]

Alright good to know ty

Should have mine this week

Yeah I think stock black jades have it kinda more just because of the dual stage

[cold bloom]

also fair

I will take them apart and lube them sometime

Unless anyone really wants black jades I could sell them for a good price stock lol

[uneven cradle]

getting a Alu plate for my frog mini

[calm pulsar]

lets go

[uneven cradle]

the PP is all good but the tadpole cutouts were a bit too small so I mentioned that and they said they'd sent me a alu plate

[cold bloom]

Here’s a spring comparison

Black jade, regular jade, raw he

Raw spring looks lighter colour but similar to stock jade spring

[polar girder]

From who

[calm pulsar]

is it smaller diameter? can't see

[uneven cradle]

cafege

[cold bloom]

no all the same diameter

[polar girder]

They have them? Dang. Should’ve got one when I ordered my tadpoles ☠️

[cold bloom]

cause the stems are similar size with the magnets

[calm pulsar]

ah okay
ig the material might be different and less noisy

[cold bloom]

yeah it looks like a lighter alloy maybe?

[calm pulsar]

okay ordering raw hes for the springs

[cold bloom]

the gateron springs look darker

[remote cairn]

How different are those 3 switches?

[cold bloom]

I have a sound test above with black jades and raw he one sec

[cold bloom]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[uneven cradle]

think they are currently out of stock but they are restocking the alu HE plates for the frog mini

[cold bloom]

then here's raw HE vs my lubed jades

[cold bloom]

@remote cairn

[polar girder]

Oh they’re sold out now. Gotcha.

[uneven cradle]

they're also doing a custom plate run at the moment

[calm pulsar]

raw he's sound a bit softer at bottom out, really cool

[cold bloom]

agreed

[remote cairn]

I don't hear that much difference, I'll probably stick with my factory lubed jades

[calm pulsar]

btw are these in the same row?

[calm pulsar]

tho on salvation should matter less

[cold bloom]

yes, asd vs jkl

salvation I find the top vs bottom row can sound really diff without a flexcut pcb

[calm pulsar]

gotcha, good choice

[cold bloom]

the tofu is more consistent but I did use the same row

mostly cause of the oring

there's a bit more pressure on the 2nd row in the salvation than the rest cause of the 2 screws but I like it once you back them off just a touch

[polar girder]

Anodized alu custom plate for $40 not bad

[polar girder]

Bro I’m tempted

[calm pulsar]

can't get enough of my friction mounted fb60 and the fr4 plate, feels so much nicer even when im wearing a headset

[polar girder]

Get a black ano alu plate for frog mini

Sheesh

You have plate file tho?

[calm pulsar]

yeah black plates are it

[uneven cradle]

a couple options too

[cold bloom]

yeah I notice a bit more spring noise with the stock black jades cause of the dual stage, I find I'm a bit sensitive to that myself so I like them with lubed springs like the second video the jade springs are lubed

[polar girder]

Yeah I have the Google form

[cold bloom]

but overall it's preference really

[polar girder]

Seems like he needs plate file tho. I would probably get aluminum 6063

[uneven cradle]

i don't have the file you could probably ask John for his

[polar girder]

Dang yeah I might have to cop

[harsh dove]

Ikr should make my stock black alu frog plate compatible and drill some holes lol

Feel like I should test it again since I only tested it with some problematic switches

And I assumed the plate separated

[polar girder]

lol right yeah worth a shot

Wish I got the stock black alu plate mehhh

lol

I think I have to try this GB

only opportunity for this probs

[harsh dove]

Yeah I’ll try it with lavenders or something and see how they do

Since I don’t have any actuation issues with those

Tbf tho I finally got it to sound pretty good and I don’t wanna mess with it lol

[cold bloom]

lmao I feel that

[elfin garnet]

Wouldn't you need the holes to be countersunk for it to be worth doing?

[harsh dove]

That’s ideal but I’m not ideal

[cold bloom]

LMAO

Just use a countersunk drill bit

[elfin garnet]

What kind of tools is needed to make countersunk holes tho? I have the stock alu plate as well. Would be fun to experiment

[harsh dove]

Basically just building it like an MX board

[elfin garnet]

oh right

[cold bloom]

mostly just a countersunk drill bit

https://www.homedepot.com/b/Tools-Power-Tool-Accessories-Drill-Bits-Countersink-Bits/N-5yc1vZc8xp

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[cold bloom]

just need the right size obv

and the right kind of bit for your plate material

[calm pulsar]

I got my fr4 plate without countersink holes, had to make sure I center the standoffs lol

[elfin garnet]

nice

[cold bloom]

I gotta get my dad into this stuff more with me, he worked as a contractor/carpenter his whole life but is starting to be less busy

I want to build a desk with him with integrated cable management and maybe we can work on some custom plates