🔧│keyboard_modding

[tawdry tree]

could be but it’d prob the very slight

less, most of the time.

[stark osprey]

Wait the ones from AE or Black Jade is longer?

[tawdry tree]

The ones from AE.

[stark osprey]

Gotcha ok

[calm pulsar]

yeah, but it's all good
black jade springs already feel nicer to me than normal jades

[fluid ravine]

Black Pc plate installed

[cold bloom]

holy these are nice

no video but daaaaamn

[fluid ravine]

Im gonna make 3 sound tests and send them in my Thackstation

[cold bloom]

also the RGB is insane on these I don't use it much but damn

[fluid ravine]

ah yeah

[calm pulsar]

dayumm

[fluid ravine]

AHHH YEA

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[wind karma]

which switches

[fluid ravine]

RAW HE

[cold bloom]

raw HE 60g

[wind karma]

ah

[fluid ravine]

oh you got the 60g too?

[calm pulsar]

raw dogging it

[fluid ravine]

Same!

[harsh dove]

🔥

[tawdry tree]

Raw > Jades?

[fluid ravine]

Finally i dont have to see that fricking hole anymore

[cold bloom]

I think so

[fluid ravine]

Probably 👀

[wind karma]

man i wish these existed when i built my keen

[fluid ravine]

New era

[cold bloom]

based off my first impresssions yes

[tawdry tree]

Interesting

[fluid ravine]

Dude the no chatter

[cold bloom]

they just came out I think

[fluid ravine]

is making me so happy

[quiet bay]

I want no chatter :c

[fluid ravine]

Waiting on mother CAM ;-;

[harsh dove]

Most likely, I think jades are great still, I prefer Neo lavenders over them but jades have better tolerance than lavenders

[fluid ravine]

dont know where she is

[wind karma]

maybe ill get them

[cold bloom]

the lack of stem wobble in these is wild

[fluid ravine]

nah fr

[wind karma]

how are they compared to jade

[cold bloom]

I think it feels better than my L45 swapped raptors, and there's no weird friction

they're similar just less chattery sounding

[fluid ravine]

this might be the closest thing to a MX switch

[stark osprey]

The difference is super noticeable even vs Jades to me

[cold bloom]

same

[fluid ravine]

or might as well sound like one

[tawdry tree]

and sound alone?

[wind karma]

thats insane then idk

[cold bloom]

yeah these are my fave rn for sure

[wind karma]

i really want some now. damn

[cold bloom]

I have black jades on the way tho, if I don't like them I could sell them for a good deal to someone else lol

[harsh dove]

I like both sounds, no preference really, I guess I’d lean more towards Lavenders if I had to make a choice

[calm pulsar]

raws seem to be way less wobble as on jades

but black knight upper on jades might help achieve similar results

[wind karma]

black jades??? wtf did i miss out on

[calm pulsar]

you got black knights?

[cold bloom]

black jades

[calm pulsar]

yeah I mean do you have the knights as well?

[cold bloom]

I'm gonna put 3 jades back into my keyboard real quick and compare the 2 switches

[cold bloom]

oh, no

just regular jades

[calm pulsar]

ah gotcha, I just want to compare the sound of black jades with black knights housing in them with raw hes

it might be similar

[tawdry tree]

Black Knights and Raw HEs are meant for each other.

[harsh dove]

Raw HE will still be louder pitch and the black Jade knights are gonna have that friction in the stem vs the Raw HE

Guess I can’t type today

[calm pulsar]

true about the friction
i'll be trying this with my used jade stems, hope they are broken in a bit after 5 months

[harsh dove]

On phone so

[calm pulsar]

you mean the BK stem on RAWs?

[wind karma]

so jades have a friction feeling compared to raw he?

[harsh dove]

Yeah , the friction I think comes from a combination of how much lube is on the switch and how broken in they are

[tawdry tree]

If you have Black Knights, Raw HEs and Black Jades, you wouldn’t use Black Knight’s top with Black Jade’s bottom.

[harsh dove]

No

[calm pulsar]

yeah I want to get raw he's now, but it's not going to be a black switch now.......... 😦

[tawdry tree]

Either Black Knight stem with full Raw HE housing or Raw HE top and Black Knight bottom.

[wind karma]

im not sure what the differences are since i just learnt of the existence of it

[harsh dove]

Can’t do black jade bottom on raw he right?

[stark osprey]

What does the Black Knight bottom do for you?

[calm pulsar]

well these are exciting times for HE switches that's what I would say hehe

[harsh dove]

Make it look like nixies lol

[tawdry tree]

Open bottom, peace and quiet.

[stark osprey]

Lol gotcha

[harsh dove]

^ this tho

[tawdry tree]

^ that too

[wind karma]

seems like it. what are the black jades btw?

[harsh dove]

A collab from Gateron x BackSpace

[calm pulsar]

black jades are recolor of jades just with dual stage spring, no real difference, but its a dark switch

[wind karma]

oh.

[wind karma]

i see

[wind karma]

why are we calling them black jades instead of just jades if there are no real differences?

[thorny jetty]

these sound chefs kiss

[harsh dove]

Because that’s the official name

[wind karma]

i see

[calm pulsar]

well they are called black jades in listings when you buy them

[tawdry tree]

and they’re half black

[cold bloom]

raw, jade, raw, jade

just pressing 3 keys to test

[harsh dove]

Also thru my testing of them, they may or may not have a different magnet than regular Jades

[cold bloom]

pretty similar but I think the raw HE's are cleaner

[calm pulsar]

@wind karma black knights, black jades and jades on my pic

[tawdry tree]

Interesting, kinda made it sound deeper. Using foam?

[wind karma]

oh what. black knights are HE?

[cold bloom]

I have the plate poron foam and the kbdfans switch pad

no case foam

[calm pulsar]

raw bottom out seems to be real nice

[cold bloom]

agreed

[calm pulsar]

yes

[cold bloom]

I think having a hole allows it to release the pressure better but still hits plastic on plastic?

not sure but it's nice

[calm pulsar]

damn that's a good description

[cold bloom]

my best guess

[harsh dove]

Would be cool to be able to test/see the sound waves that come out of different switches and how the sound travels vs open or closed bottom switches etc

[wind karma]

do the raw he magnets not oversaturate the sensor

[harsh dove]

Afaik no

[cold bloom]

Agreed

[tawdry tree]

Makes sense, I think Jades’ sound is less influenced by whatever is between the plate than the Raw HEs, because they’re semi open.

[cold bloom]

Anyone have an anechoic chamber?

🤣

[tawdry tree]

No

[cold bloom]

Also fair

[calm pulsar]

okay time to order raw hes from geon through kazakhzstan to me

[tawdry tree]

😂😂

I’m sure they’ll be more widely available soon ish

a month, maybe a couple?

[calm pulsar]

or yeah I can wait until they are on AE and mess with BK upper on jades in the meantime xd

[untold wigeon]

Exactly what I heard yesterday. This confirms it for me sound wise it sounds higher. But it’s tighter. I have no clue what to do now.

[cold bloom]

agreed lol I think I prefer the raw HE switches myself

they sound so close to an mx switch now

[thorny jetty]

im someone who has never built a keyboard only watched some videos, would you guys recommend that I mod switches like you guys are explaining now on my first wooting purchase a month from now. I am very patient and the raw he sound from dr. dave's video is something I am looking forward to

ill be back in a months time with a lot of questions probably

[untold wigeon]

I’m not crazy about it being higher pitched but if it almost eliminates wiggle I think I have to go for it.

[calm pulsar]

Im personally having a lot of fun trying different switches and messing with them

just getting raw he's is going to be great

[untold wigeon]

Buying switches and modifying switches are two different things. Don’t modify switches on your first keeb. Buy the Raws and see if you like them

[thorny jetty]

gotcha

dude im so excited i just hope i don't become a connoisseur and end up spending my whole life spendings on keyboards in the foreseeable future

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-annoyed-stare-side-eye-gif-3352035419166581197

None of us have any idea what you’re talking about

[cold bloom]

bro these raw HEs are messing with my head

there's none of the keycap chatter or spring noise I got used to with jades/other HE switches

and they feel so stable on the bottom out

really impressed

[calm pulsar]

yeah thats super nice

[tidal frigate]

Too weak

[cold bloom]

I put my mx keyboard I've been using when typing lately away for a min and am using the wooting to type

I'm mind blown

[fluid ravine]

Almost done finishing the sound tests

[calm pulsar]

kinda cute

[cold bloom]

I like

[fluid ravine]

Also making notes on my observation and support statements on what i said about silicone pad vs poron plate foam

[cold bloom]

I put my L60 stems in my jades when I spring swapped them

mostly just to remember which I did lol

[fluid ravine]

and it seems that what wooting stated and what i stated is correct

[tidal frigate]

What is current talk

I dunno want scroll up

[cold bloom]

just praising the raw he more

the fact there's no spring noise as I've been using it to type after using an mx board for a few days is blowing my mind

no spring noise or key chatter really

[tidal frigate]

Well geon have he pcb

Tho software is limiting

[cold bloom]

yeah I saw that, a tkl right?

venom he?

[calm pulsar]

here are some more random ass switches

[cold bloom]

I need to try raw HE top on jade bottom later

I didn't get around to it yet cause @fluid ravine sound test got me all hot and bothered

[calm pulsar]

I think guys said it didnt work

[fluid ravine]

One more sound test

[cold bloom]

I think Cam said it might work

[polar girder]

The FOMO is real

[cold bloom]

but idk if anyone has tested it yet

Yeah bigsly these are the truth

this is what the wooting community needed

[polar girder]

Fk

And I ordered black knights instead

RIP

[cold bloom]

bro I feel your pain

I got L60s, orderd L45s, got raptors, did the stem swap, got jades, black jades

and now these lmao

these were the last ones I ordered too

I felt like I used to have to be more careful with HE switches when typing to not hit them off center a bit for a sound test cause they'd sound so high pitched

these are higher pitched overall but they don't like scream at you if you press it a bit weird

[harsh dove]

No, it shouldn’t work

[cold bloom]

damn

I thought I remembered you saying their "v2" housing might fit better

but maybe that was something else

[harsh dove]

Yeah it’s a bit confusing but V2 basically refers to the newer top housing design changes

In this scenario

[polar girder]

So tempted to buy Raw’s now

[harsh dove]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[polar girder]

Fk

Homie said they’re the truth

Ong

[calm pulsar]

check his sound test earlier

[fluid ravine]

#1261492527433781320 message Alright everybody

All plate foam sound tests are out with some notes

Tested the analog on the switches rq (thanks CAM) and it seems to be perfectly fine

[cold bloom]

silicone is a bit quieter but too high pitched for me

[polar girder]

Meh

[untold wigeon]

That’s like all high pitched sounds.

[fluid ravine]

Yuppp muted

[polar girder]

Suddenly don’t care any more

[cold bloom]

I think poron sounds best

so far

[polar girder]

Same sound

[fluid ravine]

Yeah poron def deeper from my ears

[polar girder]

Raw just does it better

[fluid ravine]

fr

[cold bloom]

no plate foam isnt bad tbh

[polar girder]

I don’t want clack

So I’ve already moved on

lol thanks

[cold bloom]

and yeah bigsly I wouldn't rush out for them if you have jades or something similar and don't wanna buy new switches

I just wish they had these originally lol

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[fluid ravine]

tbh

I like no plate foam cus its like "pure"

[untold wigeon]

This is where I’m stuck. I don’t like the clack but apparently they are super tight and clean

[fluid ravine]

its just mostly pure sound

[cold bloom]

@polar girder this was my test of 3 raw HE vs 3 jade switches btw if you missed it

[fluid ravine]

as any type of plate foam is like a sound acoustic modifier

[cold bloom]

raw, jades, raw, jades

[cold bloom]

yeah exactly

[fluid ravine]

Like RAW HE lowkey reallllly good sounding switch

so just like hearing it by itself is nice

[cold bloom]

I kinda wanna try some plate foam on my mx build to see if I like it

just to quiet it down a touch

[fluid ravine]

I honestly think all sounds good in terms of pitched

[polar girder]

I had just listened then made those comments lol

Appreciate it

[cold bloom]

oh okay good lol

just making sure

[polar girder]

I think I’m just good on closed bottom

[cold bloom]

yeah that's fair

[fluid ravine]

Poron is good i agree, clack but a bit lower pitched

pretty clean

[cold bloom]

I'm too adhd to not try something new LOL

[quiet bay]

stop making me jello on the raw hes D:

[fluid ravine]

Hehehehehehe

[harsh dove]

Put black knight bottom on them

[polar girder]

Like raw he, no plate fosm in a salvation

[cold bloom]

yeah they're always gonna be higher pitched, but I think silicone accentuates it too much in that case

[polar girder]

Type shit

[cold bloom]

might be better in the salvation with these and silicone tho

[fluid ravine]

oh yeah for sure

[cold bloom]

it worked well in that case I found

[untold wigeon]

Now there’s an idea!

[harsh dove]

Swap them with black knight bottoms

[fluid ravine]

but otherwise all of them sounds good to me

i might run no plate foam for now

just to cleanse my ear

[polar girder]

And raw top and stem?

[calm pulsar]

gateron stem in black knight housing seems so tight in there

[harsh dove]

Yep

[fluid ravine]

If you're able to use RAW Top and Stem with like a open bottom housing i think it would be amazing

cus you want lower pitched while also maintaining the stem tolerance from the RAW

[cold bloom]

black knights look so good man

wowza

[harsh dove]

Same as black jade stem or jade stem

Like exact same

[calm pulsar]

yeah I guess we can refer to lekker/jade as gateron stem

[harsh dove]

Pretty much

[calm pulsar]

hmm what if I put gateron stem in black knight upper and bottom, might be a good open bottom switch

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[fluid ravine]

omg the HE fraken switch conversation be going wild lately lmao

[harsh dove]

Basically same effect as Raptor Stem Swap

[quiet bay]

remember when only a few he switches were out

which were by gateron

[polar girder]

So should have just bought RAW instead of Black Knight

RIP

[calm pulsar]

yeah it removes a lot of wobble but I still don't like the feel of nonexistent bottom out lol

in a board it should be better

[fluid ravine]

well idk

i havent caught up with the housing compatibility which yall talked abt

and i just got lost so i left yall to keep going on the conversation

[calm pulsar]

the only "housing" stuff I can afford

[fluid ravine]

xd

[polar girder]

Pretty sure Raptor bottom housing would also work

But maybe not

[fluid ravine]

oh yeah

maybe

[polar girder]

But either way, not pulling apart those stem swapped raptors now I guess

[harsh dove]

Yeah I prefer closed bottom

[fluid ravine]

yeah same

is it jsut me or does it sound a bit scratchy

and how come the closed bottom sounds lower pitched

[calm pulsar]

I think open bottom lets out more of the sound here

[calm pulsar]

its kinda tight in there so it might affect the sound

[quiet bay]

less sound waves come out ig

[calm pulsar]

needs breaking in

[harsh dove]

I can test this with a black knight top housing as that’s a V2 housing

[fluid ravine]

hmmm that's not usualy the case iirc

[harsh dove]

But I don’t think it works

Lemme check

[fluid ravine]

ah

[quiet bay]

I like the low pitch tho

[harsh dove]

Cause raptor top doesn’t fit over jade bottom iirc

[calm pulsar]

yeah Im excited to do a sound test with this kinda switch, just need my module

[quiet bay]

raw hes would look so good on my board 😔

[cold bloom]

I love the look of the raw HEs

always have liked the way raw switches work

[calm pulsar]

funny that gateron stem sounds way cleaner than BK stem in BK upper housing

[cold bloom]

also I like rgb on my wooting for diff profiles etc so these are sick for that

even with the black fr4 plate they look way better

[polar girder]

Yeah I mean I already have black knights on the way tho lol

[polar girder]

Exactly

[cold bloom]

I think that's why keebs are so fun

I always thought I like deeper tones

but when I heard a good clacky keeb I was hooked

[quiet bay]

is that closed bottom switch like a frankenswitch of black jade + raw he?

[harsh dove]

it works

[calm pulsar]

the open bottom is BK upper and lower + gateron stem

the closed bottom is black jade lower and BK upper + gateron stem

[tawdry tree]

Raptor’s top housing = V1 (doesn’t fit KS-20 bottoms), all Grain Gold’s magnetic switch top housings in between Raptors and Raw HEs = V2 (fits KS-20 bottoms), Raw HE top housing = V3 (doesn’t fit KS-20 bottoms well).

[quiet bay]

ohh I just assumed it was with raw he cause of the white stem

[cold bloom]

I think listening back to my comparison test the Raw HE might be a bit "deeper" but louder, the jade sounds kinda higher pitched

[grizzled mist]

how can i tell if i over lubed my wooting cus i think i might have😔😔

[cold bloom]

but just barely

[calm pulsar]

nah thats from my jades hehe

[cold bloom]

if it feels sluggish or doesn't return well

like quickly like normal

[grizzled mist]

it’s linda hard to press

like some keys are hard to press

[cold bloom]

Oh thank you!!

[cedar gate]

If you can see it shine because of the lube it's just right if you can see the white of lube build up too much

[cold bloom]

Also I think you were the one I was showing my weird graphs with the new firmware right @tawdry tree ?

I saw another thread with a similar issue that resolved after reverting it

I can tag you

[grizzled mist]

ah ok

[cedar gate]

With lube LESS IS MORE

I would watch a tutorial

[cold bloom]

even coats works better than too much but uneven

[tawdry tree]

Black Knight’s stem!

[calm pulsar]

naisu

[quiet bay]

I like the cookies and cream switch combo xd

[cold bloom]

Niceuuu

[polar girder]

What the frick

[cold bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/very-nice-borat-gif-23205893

[cold bloom]

was that you I was sharing my wooting module graphs with or am I tripping lol

I can't remember who was who with the new name

names*

[tawdry tree]

Raptor bottom is the same as Black Knight’s bottom.

[polar girder]

Right

[polar girder]

Yeah do I should have just bought raw instead of Black Knight lol

Raptor bottom and raw top and stem

In a frog mini

[cold bloom]

just wait for a sale, maybe a big holiday

[polar girder]

The Geon mobile

[cold bloom]

geon gang

get some key kobo geon keycaps too

Key kobo jindo

designed by geon

https://geon.works/products/key-kobo-jindo

[calm pulsar]

I got his gmk set hehe

[cold bloom]

what set is that? haven't seen it

but interested

[calm pulsar]

black snail, I got base + novelties

[cold bloom]

oh dope

[calm pulsar]

novelties are fire

the same ones for wob cost like 3 sets or something lol

[tawdry tree]

Sure!

[cold bloom]

kk one sec

[tawdry tree]

You know you’re not going to get wobble less than Black Knight stem and bottom and Raw HE top right?

[calm pulsar]

@quiet bay gateron stem seems to sound much lower pitched than BK stem in a closed bottom, liking it

[quiet bay]

I wanna try that combo in my keyboard so bad

how thocky would my wooting sound instead 🤔

[harsh dove]

There's no wobble with black knight stem in raw top?

[polar girder]

https://geon.works/products/ws-v3-1-stabilizer

[tawdry tree]

I’ve seen a few people with similar issues. It’s quite interesting.

[calm pulsar]

well if you use lekkers currently then it should be whole diff feeling I think

[polar girder]

Anyone tried these?

[quiet bay]

yeah currently still on lekkers

[tawdry tree]

Less wobble than with the Raw’s stem.

[quiet bay]

letting the market marinate before I upgrade

[harsh dove]

Very interesting

[quiet bay]

and see how much better it is

[tawdry tree]

and that’s already basically no wobble 😂

[harsh dove]

Right

and it's interesting because the black knight stem has wobble in every other top housing

[quiet bay]

I like that raw he and black knight combo though

looks nice

[calm pulsar]

yeah I imagine lekker v2s going to be so clean for those who like open bottoms

[polar girder]

Geon has triple stage springs lol

[harsh dove]

Really?

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, Raw HE’s top is slightly tighter.

[polar girder]

https://geon.works/products/geon-springs-22mm-triple-stage

[polar girder]

Ok fine I don’t regret now lol

Thanks

[tawdry tree]

Magnetic 😭

[polar girder]

Yeah

[harsh dove]

Yeah makes sense so the stem must be smaller than the black knight stem and other stems

[tawdry tree]

Couldn’t use those for magnetic switches.

[calm pulsar]

damn three stages

at this point we need to be adjusting spring stages in wootility😂

[tawdry tree]

They’re smaller and not non magnetic.

[quiet bay]

rip

[cold bloom]

agreed, just glad it's not just me or part of my build lol

[quiet bay]

I feel like I barely have my wooting for gaming anymore and just purely to make it look/sound good now 💀

[calm pulsar]

true im doing all these adjustments just to get shit on in tarkov💀

[polar girder]

Ik

But it’s cool lol

[calm pulsar]

yup

[cold bloom]

I felt like that too until I tried to play a game of val without my wooting and rapid trigger LMAO

[fluid ravine]

nah fr

[cold bloom]

I was like nope gimme the wooting

right now

[fluid ravine]

Wait guys should i lube my RAW?

[cold bloom]

I didn't

I might lube the springs eventually

[fluid ravine]

I did one for my spacebar

[fluid ravine]

yeah same

[quiet bay]

You can 🤔

[fluid ravine]

i might just bag lube my springs

[cold bloom]

same

[fluid ravine]

I think the factory lube only lubed like the stem rails and housing rails

and thats it

[quiet bay]

if I had em i would cause T H O C K

[fluid ravine]

I just lubed the whole damn switch

fking dampen

i think i would avoid lubing the top housing

[cold bloom]

I think with just springs they'd be solid

[fluid ravine]

and maybe the bottom housing floor to keep that sound signature

[calm pulsar]

did you lube it on the outside

[cold bloom]

I just couldn't be bothered rn

been tuning stabs all day on my mx build lmao

finally got a syringe

[fluid ravine]

So i would just lube the springs 100%, stem rails and housing rails maybe

I would spread the stem rails to make it "smoother"

although its pretty smooth

[cold bloom]

fair

I think these sound better than my lubed jades so far

[fluid ravine]

but i would just spread it evenly across the stem

just to be sure

[fluid ravine]

nah fr

stock RAW is just a 10/10 for me

i already prefer it over the jades without having them

[cold bloom]

I think I might just let them wear in a bit, and then relube a touch and spring lube

no need right now I think

[quiet bay]

you know what

on my birthday ima order new switches

[cold bloom]

W

treat yo self

[calm pulsar]

im giving jades a chance with upper black knight housing
(waiting for raw hes to appear on AE)

[cold bloom]

I still don't know how they got the tolerances so low but it still feels smooth

anytime I've been able to get this little wobble it's felt kinda tight

you can't really tell in these

[calm pulsar]

geon personally breaks in each switch for 1000000 strokes

[cold bloom]

LOL really?

no shot

[calm pulsar]

haha no im joking

[cold bloom]

magine

[fluid ravine]

A: Stock
S: Spring, Stem, Bottom housing rail Lubed
D: Full switch lubed
@cold bloom

[cold bloom]

geon takes a batch of 100 switches home every night personally

and spams them

I don't really notice much difference until D @fluid ravine

A and S sound similar

[fluid ravine]

So yeah i recommend just lubing esp the springs and if you wnt lube the stem and bottom housing rails

[fluid ravine]

Yeah makes sense

cus lubing the contact points of when the switch is moving just to make sure its smooth

[cold bloom]

I might not be hearing the full story too over the mic

[fluid ravine]

but at D i lubed the contacts where the plastic hits plastic

like bottom housing floor and top housing

[cold bloom]

I keep sending my sound tests to a friend with diff switches etc and they're like it all sounds the same LMAO

I think mics sometimes don't tell the full story

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[calm pulsar]

for sure

[fluid ravine]

But yeah lube the springs for sure

[cold bloom]

esp the condenser mic I use lol

yeah I'll do springs eventually

I think rn if I can't hear them I'm not too bothered

but eventually I'll touch the whole switch up a bit

[fluid ravine]

tbh i dont really like the switch being fullly lubed on this one

too dampen xd

[cold bloom]

yeah agreed

these are probably the best factory lubed HE switch I've heard tho

[fluid ravine]

The S is alright

[cold bloom]

especially IRL

[fluid ravine]

but still prefer stock

[cold bloom]

same

[fluid ravine]

except the springs maybe

[cold bloom]

I'm gonna leave them stock until I'm unhappy lol

[fluid ravine]

nah fr

this factory lube is amazing

although they dont lube every part

the amount of lube on the rails are pretty good

[calm pulsar]

I wonder how BK stem sounds in RAW HEs

[cold bloom]

hmm

[fluid ravine]

and they chose the good parts to lube

[cold bloom]

interesting thought

[cedar gate]

Notice how you said until not unless🤣

[fluid ravine]

Yknow what i finna just lube some of the springs

[cold bloom]

LOL

[cedar gate]

Damn forearm day typing is so hard

[fluid ravine]

since i got my kit out and everything i might as well do some

[cold bloom]

I know I'm a modder through and through @sage linden

can't stop won't stop

[cedar gate]

Can't stop won't stop

[fluid ravine]

lol

[cold bloom]

never back down never what

[cedar gate]

Imna stop typing before I get a hernia cya time for curls

[cold bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/never-back-down-never-what-nick-eh-30-ehh-gif-6705638111929649912

[calm pulsar]

many men wish thock upon me
clack in my eyes dog and I can't see

[paper bloom]

So how itd go?

[thorny jetty]

just wanna make sure with you guys, by getting the raw he's im not going to be missing out on any wooting features because they travel 3.5 mm instead of 4 mm right? All it is really is, is less distance to work with but not really limiting the features?

[paper bloom]

Yes

[thorny jetty]

okay thank you

[cold bloom]

@fluid ravine here is a comparison of my hmx switches in my salvation compared to my Raw HE switches in my tofu

raw, mx, raw, mx

[calm pulsar]

minecraft skeleton spawned in ur room

[cold bloom]

LMAO

[thorny jetty]

I cant unhear it now lmaoo

[cold bloom]

the hmx switches sound so snappy

[fluid ravine]

i got a 84 i passed

91% overall for the whole semester

im free now :D

[cold bloom]

@thorny jetty I had some issues with the new firmware with both raw HEs and jades, I think there's something weird on the 2.8.1 firmware so far

but they work the same on 2.7.2

[fluid ravine]

aw yeah

[cold bloom]

I can link you to the issues I was noticing

[fluid ravine]

mhm

i like that

[cold bloom]

yup

[paper bloom]

@harsh dove i will paypal u 300 SGD since the price of the optimum is around that

[quiet bay]

no more school???

[fluid ravine]

yup

[quiet bay]

WWWWWW

NOW YOU CAN RELAX

[fluid ravine]

got my credit for geometry

:DDD

[paper bloom]

And then buy 2 for urself and another for @fluid ravine

[fluid ravine]

huh

[paper bloom]

The 300 SGD shld cover the shipping

[quiet bay]

are you mr beast lol

[fluid ravine]

wait wut

[paper bloom]

@fluid ravine what didnt we agree ?

[thorny jetty]

oh I dont have a wooting just yet, im just trying to think ahead for the future. surely firmware would be fixed by then. But send the link anyways I'll have it on standby if I feel anything off

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/whats-going-on-gif-25049667

[paper bloom]

I dont back out LOL

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/slapping-wake-up-am-i-dreaming-bash-howard-chris-lowell-gif-14956024

Chat am i dreaming

[quiet bay]

thackson getting all the upgrades?

[fluid ravine]

am i tripping

[paper bloom]

Nope

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/hodhodaa-gif-21969781

[tawdry tree]

bribing? 😮

[paper bloom]

Nope

[quiet bay]

now you will have another endgame

[paper bloom]

Im just being a man of my word

LOL

[fluid ravine]

FDJKLKJLFD;AJFKL;ADS

dies from not knowing whats going on

[quiet bay]

my endgame is salvation case but im not sure how that'd sound with my foam config xd

since salvation is usually for clacky builds

[paper bloom]

But holy shit

I feel like fucking shit

[fluid ravine]

why 😭

[paper bloom]

Yesterday i had 4 hrs of sleep

[fluid ravine]

oop-

[paper bloom]

And i ran 600 meter interval

[fluid ravine]

damn bro what time you sleep

[paper bloom]

Idek

[quiet bay]

this is going to be me when school starts...I already sleep in until 12pm because I sleep at 2am

[paper bloom]

I overtrained 3 days ago

After hitting the gym i went out and a did 6km easy run than a shitty 10 min muay thai cardio

[quiet bay]

gah dang

all I do is just go to the gym

and take a rest day

so gym every other day

[paper bloom]

Bro i had worse days as well

After i hit the gym for legs

[cold bloom]

kk ill tag you

[paper bloom]

I went out and ran

Afterwards

Or fast walk

[quiet bay]

I do full body workouts every time cause it feels kinda nice

then i bike home

[paper bloom]

Ye

Thats nice

[quiet bay]

gotta hit legs first tho cause.. 💀

[calm pulsar]

true

[paper bloom]

Be sure to do more endurance stuff

Dont wanna have it up ur ass

[cold bloom]

I used to play hockey a ton growing up and now my endurance is ASS lol

I gotta get back out on the ice

[thorny jetty]

got it, thanks

[cold bloom]

I used to walk a lot more playing golf too but I find the courses I play lately I need a cart so that also doesn't help

[quiet bay]

im trying to go out more now cause I've noticed my body is getting weak

too much playing with keyboard xd

this keyboard hobby started because of wooting...

Stage 1 was initially buying the 60he
Stage 2 was while waiting, look at videos
Stage 3 was after looking at videos, I stumbled across custom keyboard videos and started buying upgrades to put on the wooting
Final stage was the final wait...

[cedar gate]

Left shift is thocky and wasd is clacky 🤣

[quiet bay]

damn im seeing so many clacky builds now

not complaining though cause the sound is delectable

[fluid ravine]

And my body is urging to play volleyball all day while doing hw

and how the hell do i increase my vert

all i can think of is just leg workouts xd

[quiet bay]

plyometrics

[cold bloom]

how tall are you thackson

I loved vball but I was too short lmao

[fluid ravine]

6'

[fluid ravine]

da flip

[cold bloom]

I have a good vert tho I used to spike on kids way taller than me

I'm only like 5'9"

[quiet bay]

WAIT YOURE 6 FT???

[fluid ravine]

yeah you didnt know?

LOL

[cold bloom]

bro is a vball gamer

[quiet bay]

WAIT NOW I REMEMBER CUZ U PUT IT ON UR PROFILE

[fluid ravine]

LMAOOOOOOOO

[quiet bay]

before

[polar girder]

LOL

[cold bloom]

LMAOOO

[polar girder]

ofc he did

[fluid ravine]

💀

[polar girder]

[cold bloom]

classic thackson

[fluid ravine]

No asian like me trust (jk)

[cold bloom]

LMAO

no wonder y'all type so fast

[fluid ravine]

LMFAO

[quiet bay]

ur right though all the asians I know are like 5'6

[fluid ravine]

my friend earlier he plays piano

[cold bloom]

fkn machines

fr

(no disrespect)

(only respect)

[fluid ravine]

he doesnt know where tf each key is but he still type so fking fast

his top is 200wpm

shit

[cold bloom]

JESUS

[quiet bay]

damn no wonder bros fingers were flying

[cold bloom]

saying!!

[quiet bay]

his typing style was interesting tho

[fluid ravine]

frrrr

[quiet bay]

3 fingers on each hand I think?

[cold bloom]

yeah I don't use my right hand enough when I type lmao

bro had both hands flying

[fluid ravine]

i think 3 and 4

im more of 3/4 and 4/5

[cold bloom]

I use space with my right hand so I only use like 2 right hand fingers

[polar girder]

Yo if I’m running SA keycaps, a DCS artisan might look kind of silly, huh

[cold bloom]

left hand I use like 4

[fluid ravine]

yup classic piano players

[cold bloom]

ahh piano bros

it all makes sense now

I played golf and hockey

[fluid ravine]

We both have that thing where our pinky goes up when typing

[polar girder]

Geon has a frog aluminum artisan

[fluid ravine]

lul

[cold bloom]

yeah I noticed that lmao

[quiet bay]

definitely

[cold bloom]

my right hand didn't have much dexterity in sports cause it's dominant for me so mostly for control and wrist motion

left hand is usually free-er

[polar girder]

Yeah. rip

[quiet bay]

all those tall keycaps and then one little odd thing out 🤣

[polar girder]

What about if it was OEM profile?

[quiet bay]

I like this one
I would rock it on my wooting

[polar girder]

Would match up ok

[tawdry tree]

His logo has always looked like a leg to me

[polar girder]

Aluminum

[tawdry tree]

a leg that’s about to kick something

[polar girder]

Need

[tawdry tree]

king frog

[quiet bay]

NOOO I CANT UNSEE IT NOW

[cedar gate]

I actually wanted thock and heard someone say any switches can thock so I got jades and they didn't thock 😞 wtvr clack rocks

[cedar gate]

How surprised you are tells me your short 🤣

[quiet bay]

I think it'd work fine

[tawdry tree]

This is correct but when you buy a clacky switch you have to drill holes through the bottom to make it thock like an open bottom. 🥰🥰

[quiet bay]

although not dcs but

er

[cedar gate]

As a super tall person I can say it sucks would not recommend to a friend ppl always say I wish I was taller and I just cringe

[quiet bay]

dcs has that angle like oem if this picture is right

[tawdry tree]

“would not recommend” lmao

[quiet bay]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-cat-meme-meme-meme-cat-gif-14470917232397934693

ur right....

[cedar gate]

Everytime I'm on a flight I legit pray in the boarding area for an emergency exit seat

[fluid ravine]

OH FRRRRRRRRRR

YOU ARE SO RIGHT LMFAO

[swift hatch]

i love mr fresh

[cedar gate]

Trust me I would pay like 15 grand to be your height

[quiet bay]

5'2?

[tawdry tree]

just fold brother

[cedar gate]

Nvm

[quiet bay]

LOL

[swift hatch]

LOL

[fluid ravine]

Nah but i'd say for the people that are short and say that "i wish i ould be taller" i would rather think of it as they want to be average

[fluid ravine]

LMFAOOO

[swift hatch]

im 5'7 but still growing, i wish to be like 5'10

[fluid ravine]

WILD

[cedar gate]

It doesn't work when your almost 6 8

[swift hatch]

only issue with that for me is ill lose a ton of muscle definition lmao

[fluid ravine]

damn bro

[cedar gate]

That too

[fluid ravine]

i think that happen to me when i hit puberty at 10 ;-;

i was "fat"

[cedar gate]

It's soon hard to put on muscle

[quiet bay]

guys I may not be that big vertically but I have the potential to be buff horizontally

[swift hatch]

i have a 5'11 wingspan though, so it absolutely sucks putting on muscle for arms

[swift hatch]

if you touch a dumbbell you might become prime arnold

[tawdry tree]

alien, I thought your armspan and height were always the same

👽

[swift hatch]

its commonly like that

[tawdry tree]

the fact that you have wings is crazy too

[swift hatch]

but i have scoliosis so i might just have my torso growing at a different pace

[cedar gate]

Oh yeah you will be ripped if you workout

In like 6 months

[quiet bay]

I started going to the gym a week ago and i already notice im bigger 😂

[cedar gate]

Maybe I would pay the 15g

[swift hatch]

get ready to bench 225 in the next month

[calm pulsar]

same for me im also short, 173 cm xd

[cedar gate]

Wait is that your pr after only a week

[swift hatch]

helllllll no 😭

[cedar gate]

It took me almost 2 months to hit that

[cedar gate]

Lol I was wondering what you were taking🤣

[polar girder]

225 bench is good lol

[tawdry tree]

what the fuck is cm 🦅🦅🦅

[cedar gate]

That's not even close to my current pr tho

[polar girder]

https://tenor.com/view/nic-cage-nicolas-cage-con-air-freedom-sunshine-gif-11101284117173771733

[swift hatch]

i started out benching like 85 sophomore now im going into junior year benching 175

[polar girder]

Yeah I haven’t worked out in years lol

I should get back in shape

Run 5 miles a day and bench 225 for sets of 10

#GOALS

[cedar gate]

Want to make it 315 this wknd

[swift hatch]

what was your max when you used to workout?

[polar girder]

I haven’t liftwd since High school

So like 20 years ago

[cedar gate]

You probably forgot how much fun it was

[polar girder]

[swift hatch]

damn

[cedar gate]

K gtg sleep cuz I wake up at 4 am ik I'm crazy

[swift hatch]

4am is insane

[polar girder]

But like 225ish

[swift hatch]

i do 12pm during summer

[swift hatch]

225 in highschool is lowkey really good tho

[polar girder]

I’m like 5’11” 165lbs bird chest lil dude

[polar girder]

Yeah it’s aight. I used to play football and workout every morning type shit

[swift hatch]

i find it impossible to workout in the morning

[polar girder]

I remember my high school football coach slapped me in the face before I set my power clean PR lolz

[swift hatch]

man they make us power clean every wednesday and i absolutely hate it

[polar girder]

Yeah I used to drive 30 minutes and eat 4 eggo waffles covered in butter and syrup and a pint of milk on the way to the workout lol

I was school of choice so drove a half hour to get there ☠️

[swift hatch]

my preworkout meal is a chicken/sausage biscuit 😭

during school ofc

[polar girder]

lol lowkey power clean and squat are my two favorite workouts

[swift hatch]

bench is by far my favorite along with deadlift, but squat i like depending on mood

if i feel great im happy to do it

otherwise its hell

[polar girder]

I always liked doing incline, decline and regular bench press followed by decline dumb flys.

Yeah I feel like going squats and/or power cleans really gets me going lol

Gets the blood flowing and gets me hype

[cedar gate]

morning u gotta if you wanna run anywhere between 7.5 to 10 miles every morning and still get to work on time🤣

[polar girder]

that's what's up

respect

i gotta get like you, ma boi

[cedar gate]

Yeah but tbh it's just gym addiction

[polar girder]

As far as addictions go, i'll take it

[swift hatch]

i dont do much cardio just because im on a bulk

ill get into it once i start cutting tho

[cedar gate]

LOL the healthiest addiction

[cedar gate]

That's how you know he really works out

Does whatever and blames it on the bulk

[polar girder]

classic

[swift hatch]

no i just already struggle eating a lot so running makes it more difficult

[cedar gate]

Good point

Just eat less fiber tho a low fiber diet does wonders for the bulk

[swift hatch]

yeah but low fiber means shitting is harder 😭

[cedar gate]

Alas

[swift hatch]

high protein low fiber sounds like taco bell for the toilet

[fluid ravine]

oh to be heavier rn

im a 145 lbs xd

[polar girder]

and going through puberty

you'll be aight lol

takes time lolz

[cedar gate]

Drink your meals then full of protein fiber calories and easy to eat a ton

Almost 100 grams in that bad boy

[swift hatch]

my protein shake is like 850 calories 50g of protein

trying not to drink my calories/protein

[cedar gate]

What brand?

Store boughts are usually unhealthy

[swift hatch]

ryse

if i had hella money id get the mass gainer

[cedar gate]

Nono don't do that it's a huge waste

Just blend a ton of whey with a banana and some milk there's your protein

If you want calories add a ton of peanut butter

[swift hatch]

people who make a protein shake with water need therapy

absolutely awful 😭

[cedar gate]

IKR

[swift hatch]

i do oats, milk, powder, banana, and peanut butter

[cedar gate]

Or maybe their just broke from all that whey

[paper bloom]

Idk u guys

[cedar gate]

I do the same but with chocolate and pbfit since I'm cutting

[paper bloom]

I just whack chicken breast

And run

[cedar gate]

Simple but respectable

[quiet bay]

u got this im starting to gain more weight too

[paper bloom]

When i was cutting back then

I legitly didnt take sauce

I eat shit boiled

And raw af

[cedar gate]

THE BULK SHALL COMMENSE

[paper bloom]

Only water and still train

When i bulked i fucking whacked so much protein via food

Its insane

[fluid ravine]

Finna be a idol chat

[swift hatch]

i have an insane caffeine addiction now i wont lie

[fluid ravine]

i get muscle i become idol

[cedar gate]

Damn I gotta get to sleep it's 10 pm my time cya

[fluid ravine]

cya

[polar girder]

We know

[quiet bay]

me n u gonna be on a bulking journey

[cedar gate]

Get those keycap looking abs guys

[fluid ravine]

yurrr

[cedar gate]

Ansi pack

[polar girder]

non of that iso bs

lolz

[cedar gate]

Yeah that Enter key is designed for your sixth finger that's a bit longer than your pinky 🤣

Stole that joke from ltt

But yeah cya

[stray tiger]

So tempted... https://novelkeys.com/products/gmk-cyl-carbon-r3-keycaps?variant=45855936905383

[calm pulsar]

full gray looks cool

[quiet bay]

I like the base

[stray tiger]

I've never owned carbon and it's been cloned to death but still looks great. The new gray alphas do look good

[quiet bay]

cloned to death for good reason...it looks good 😏

the temptation will only grow bigger because you've gone to a channel where we people all need financial advisors from the amount we've spent on our wootings

[stray tiger]

I'm only tempted as a collector who likes having a ton of color ways to choose from rather than only buying a set for a board I already own or have incoming. I don't own any GMK sets with orange I don't think

[calm pulsar]

there's a sale on kbdfans btw guys

[polar girder]

Yeah I’m tempted to buy these quality PBT SA keycaps but I know they’re not my endgame so I think I’ll wait for aluminum set to be available instead of just getting both lol

[stray tiger]

End game is a myth

[polar girder]

https://kbdfans.com/collections/on-sale-items

Idk if I’ll ever want anything after aluminum blanks tho lol

[fluid ravine]

Pops what do you use to bag lube?

Like what super lube specifically?

[harsh dove]

Keyboards change like seasons, you’re likely gonna want different keycaps, switches, boards from time to time

[calm pulsar]

https://kbdfans.com/collections/case/products/margo-case?variant=42603699765387

damn thats nice

65% tho 😦

[quiet bay]

Heck go for it, it contrasts nicely with black cases and probably other colors

[polar girder]

The SA is tempting tho

I wonder which would sound better, the SA PBT or Aluminum OEM’ish

[stray tiger]

The only thing I've been eyeing on kbdfabs is the PBTFans neon glitter base set

[polar girder]

Yeah like for me I have no interest in the color way so don’t really care.

[stray tiger]

The oil

[calm pulsar]

these are probably completely opposite to each other

[fluid ravine]

Can i find it in walmart?

[quiet bay]

superrr nice

[polar girder]

Yeah shits clean

I have also been tempted at times lol

[fluid ravine]

oh alright thanks

[calm pulsar]

there's also this

[polar girder]

lol you think so?

[quiet bay]

if I didnt get cerakeys I'd probably have bought the xray keycaps by now

[harsh dove]

Why you show me this

[stray tiger]

I did get a new set of caps in this week that I need to crack open (that I did buy for a specific board/build)

[harsh dove]

I just got GMK stealth and now I want this neon glitter base

[polar girder]

Good.

[harsh dove]

Haven’t even used the GMK stealth yet

[quiet bay]

just had to, it's clean

[calm pulsar]

SA pbt is probably the deepest it can get, and metal keycaps are more clacky, but I havent used either of those

[polar girder]

Right

[harsh dove]

Its tirades fault

[polar girder]

Yeah maybe black blank SA PBT would go hard

[harsh dove]

Man has too much taste

[quiet bay]

I need to keep that keycap set in mind if I ever make a black keyboard...

hopefully still ongoing sale

oh wait...

limited in-stock

[stray tiger]

@harsh dove if you want a reason to skip Neon glitter Ill remind you that GMK cosmos will be hitting GB in the next 90days likely

[harsh dove]

I need them all tirade you know me

Like Pokémon

[stray tiger]

It's been out of stock since GB. These are extras that were just listed

[calm pulsar]

im starting to have my doubts that gmk cosmos is going to look as good as on renders 😦

after seeing the irl pics

[quiet bay]

dang it, guess I'll just have to miss out on these gems 😔

[stray tiger]

Just came back in stock July. 11th @quiet bay

[quiet bay]

those are clean too...

never actually seen real black on black

or is it more black on grey

[calm pulsar]

well the black used I think is the standard gmk black, and the alphas are new plastic gmk made

I think in real life it might look almost like blanks at most angles

[quiet bay]

yeah in this picture its a little hard to see but it's there

[calm pulsar]

\

first row is the sparkling samples

[sweet oak]

oh my goodness so much pretty stuff in here

[harsh dove]

Cosmos is gonna be one of those either love it or hate it sets

[stray tiger]

Awww thanks

[sweet oak]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-welcome-pleasure-keanu-reeves-its-a-pleasure-thank-you-gif-18395277

[harsh dove]

Idk if I prefer the cosmos legends or cosmos keycaps with black legends

[calm pulsar]

guess we have to wait for more pics, iirc there werent any real pics of cosmos legends

[stray tiger]

I already own a few black sets so it makes it tough. This is the latest one I picked up

GMK midnight rainbow

[calm pulsar]

that's cool, like rgb 😄

all of my 3 sets are some color on black
wob
aurora polaris
black snail

[polar girder]

Yeah I love it. And hate it for being ABS.

[polar girder]

That’s sick

I think I might have some SA PBT light grey on dark grey keycaps made

Like MT3 Darkness type shit

[stray tiger]

I liked black snail but already own boneyard and felt it was too similar

[polar girder]

Yeah black snail almost got me lol

Did you see the snail artisan???

[calm pulsar]

tbf I got it purely because of the novelties set

the same set for wob costs more then a whole gmk set lol

[polar girder]

Aluminum

So hard

No pun intended

[stray tiger]

Well you can see why I say it's similar to Boneyard

[calm pulsar]

yeah, it's grayer tho, I like it

[harsh dove]

PSA: After further testing, I can no longer recommend the Black Jade Knight frankenswitch while using a Black Knight Stem with a Closed Bottom Housing as the closed bottom interferes with the strength of the magnet in the Black Knight stem and causes actuation inconsistencies.
It will however work with the Jade or Black Jade stems.

[stray tiger]

Yeah it's more gray for sure

[polar girder]

makes sense

don't use an open bottom stem with a closed bottom bottom

[calm pulsar]

gateron stem ftw

[harsh dove]

Precisely

This may also not be an issue on the 80HE I’d like to point out

[stray tiger]

All of this may potentially change with the 80HE as the sensor range is wider on the 80HE than in the 60HE.

[polar girder]

thats sweet\

[stray tiger]

Cam beat me to it

[harsh dove]

You said it better

This also may not be an issue with the Black Knight Stem and Raw HE as the bottom is semi-open, however I haven’t seen test from Aligner with those yet so

[tawdry tree]

KS-20s 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[tawdry tree]

Saved for later, will check when I get home. What did the results show with Black Jades and Black Knight’s stem?

[harsh dove]

Basically stops at 3.25mm unless you press uncomfortably hard against your board

[stray tiger]

Sno is here to tell us how good his lubed RAW's sound

[glacial wind]

i wonder if that's why geon did semi open bottom raw he, to make sure the magnet sensitivity is good

[harsh dove]

That’s a good point

Could be

[fluid ravine]

wait sno did you fully lube your raws?

[glacial wind]

i actually need to decide if I put them into my 60he lol. The problem is once i swap them in i won't want to swap them out again because i'll get used to 3.4mm travel

[stray tiger]

@harsh dove can you test a Neo lavender real quick and see if you get the same reading as the franken jade

[stray tiger]

Haha just embrace it

[fluid ravine]

lol

the clips on the RAW's makes it so fking hard to take out of the plate

holeh

[harsh dove]

I do not, those work really well tbh

[cold bloom]

gmk cosmos when I need it

[fluid ravine]

id be scrunching my toes when i attempt to take them out

[glacial wind]

semi full. I spread the lube better on the outer stem to cover the side of the rails, bag lubed my springs with gpl105, did a very light once over inside the bottom case to make sure lube was spread well there too

mostly just bag lube and spread the factory lube to make sure it's even

[fluid ravine]

ah

[stray tiger]

The lavenders are closed bottom and also from Grain Gold so they might use a stronger magnet than the black knights.

[fluid ravine]

I'm planning to just lube the springs and relube/spread the lube on the stem and call it a day

[harsh dove]

Slow Press to max actuation

Neo Lavender

[harsh dove]

That's what I'm thinking

[stray tiger]

So basically a full hand lube 😁

[fluid ravine]

xd

i already started

QWE, ASD, ZXC

and keep going on and on

[cold bloom]

lavenders with jade stem? @harsh dove

Raw HE is so nice so far tho

[fluid ravine]

i find lubing the top housing and bottom housing dampens the switch too much

[cold bloom]

yeah fair

[fluid ravine]

so just lube the parts that would smoothen out the feel and avoid spring ping

[cold bloom]

the hmx switches I got have PFTE mixed into the nylon in the top housing

maybe we just need more innovation with HE switches

and new materials

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[glacial wind]

eyejoker was actually pre launch tester for raw he btw, seems he's completely swapped to using them over jades in his main builds now

[fluid ravine]

i mean ay props to geon with the mold dimensions fitting

they did a really good job

[glacial wind]

same reason as most of us it seems - he just likes that the stem is tighter than jades by a bit

[tawdry tree]

I see

[glacial wind]

he used them for his holy60 build a month ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5GVjaQmwLM

[fluid ravine]

nice

[tawdry tree]

I don’t think that has any effect.

[fluid ravine]

props

[stray tiger]

Anytime you place something between the magnet and the sensor, you change the strength.

[tawdry tree]

Neo and Raw’s bottoms are thinner than the Jade’s, I think that could be the issue as well.

[stray tiger]

Thickness does also play a role

Someone better give me a "That's what she said..."

[tawdry tree]

I don’t think the plastic has any effect on usability is what I mean.

Considering the Jades and KS-20s share the same stem and magnet.^

[fluid ravine]

That's what she fking said!

:D

[polar girder]

Ok now I want to try black knight bottom and stem with RAW to housing

And 35g two stage spring

[cold bloom]

raw top housing is just pc

I don't think it's much diff

[polar girder]

I know

[cold bloom]

maybe the tolerances tho

[polar girder]

Yeah

[cold bloom]

fair

why is every gd HE switch so far PC top housing besides lavendars lmao

try something new

[fluid ravine]

lol

[calm pulsar]

try aluminum housing

[fluid ravine]

to be honest i think PC was a good choice for the RAWS rn