🔧│keyboard_modding

[thorn zealot]

do u bag lube the springs

or paint them

[harsh dove]

But better with just 205

I put a few drops in this and shake it

This was before the explosion

lol

[thorn zealot]

i think ima bag lube my springs rn

[harsh dove]

Which btw I somehow managed to completely avoid hitting my keyboard with

No protein shake got on it

[thorn zealot]

impossible

[harsh dove]

I swear

[thorn zealot]

impossible

[cold bloom]

symbiote membrane keys go so hard

[harsh dove]

They do

They also sound different from the rest of the keys

[cold bloom]

oh interesting

I guess that makes sense tho

[harsh dove]

Yeah I kinda like it tbh

Oop I lied

Protein

Still crazy tho considering it was right in front of me and only got that drop on it

[polar girder]

It’s one piece tho

It’s more of an integrated friction mount than a true gasket mount IMO

[cold bloom]

yeah I know someone said there's a custom plate or something

[polar girder]

Yeah cool

I just rebuild my PC so much I don’t even have to clean it ever ☠️

[untold wigeon]

Would a lube (used for the thing, not keyboards) even work on a keyboard?

Not a water based one

[calm pulsar]

depends on what exactly you're lubing in the keyboard

[untold wigeon]

Keys

I mean

[calm pulsar]

usually different lubes are used for switch housings / switch springs / stabilizers

[untold wigeon]

What part would worj

Work

[calm pulsar]

its easier to check out video guides since they also show how lubing is done

[untold wigeon]

Well, it's not about knowing how to lube

I just need to know

If it has to be like

Krytox or whatever

Or can be like

Yk what

Idk if I'm allowed to say

[polar girder]

My only tip for lubing is make sure it goes on clear

But I’ve only lubed once lol

[uneven cradle]

No those type of lubes are water based and the ones you want to use are silicon based

[untold wigeon]

Well there are non water based ones

But they aren't silicon neither

So ig they dont

Ty

[terse temple]

are there any sound tests anywhere for the jade switches on their website?

[polar girder]

I’m going to wait to try PP plate first then worry about CF plate lol

[polar girder]

I gotta chill on the kb spending anyway lol

Frog mini more than I thought I would ever spend on a keyboard case

[harsh dove]

Fixed my Pom plate

[polar girder]

Fixed what

[untold wigeon]

How're jades compared to l60's?

[harsh dove]

One of the standoffs sat lower than the rest and messed up the actuations

So I used diff screws

Now it works fine

[harsh dove]

Jades are pretty popular

[untold wigeon]

Sound wise

[harsh dove]

Clacky

Lekkers are thocky

[calm pulsar]

damn im here messing around with jades and black knights

and I feel like upper housing of black knights does wonders, even if you only replace the upper housing and keep the jade stem

[untold wigeon]

I want something deep

I wanna order ws dashesss

[calm pulsar]

ws dashes are in fact jades, just different color of the stem

[untold wigeon]

And that's all? 😭

[calm pulsar]

yeah its the same switch basically

[untold wigeon]

Basically or the sound is different

[calm pulsar]

it even says "gateron" on ws dashes lol

[untold wigeon]

Yhh

[harsh dove]

Black knight top housing with jade stem?

[untold wigeon]

Im gonna stay with lekkers then

I love the sound

[harsh dove]

Those sound the same as Jades

[polar girder]

The heck lol

So silly

[untold wigeon]

What's that

[polar girder]

Bruh

[calm pulsar]

yeah I just tried it and I think it might be an upgrade for jades

it could be related to the gugus upper housing having more lube, but even visually it looks more tight

[polar girder]

They only sell tadpoles by the 200??

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-lebowski-jeff-bridges-the-dude-stir-stirring-gif-5154450

[calm pulsar]

im just comparing them in hand though, but it sounds nice if you compare to stock jade

[untold wigeon]

Its 45 quid tho

[polar girder]

Yeah it’s fkd

[untold wigeon]

Its cheap

Well idk what that is

[polar girder]

80a is the only one they have by 14pc

[polar girder]

Bruh

[lilac inlet]

i still have the yellow/black take control strap from my 60he new in the packaging, but i never have and probably never will use it. i don't think you can order them new - so if anyone needs a new yellow/black 'take control' strap for the 60he, send me a dm - only thing it's gonna cost you is potential shipping costs from NL to you
sorry for double posting lel

[untold wigeon]

22 cents a piece

Im actually debating buying the ALU case

For the black strap

[untold wigeon]

And using it for Normal things

[polar girder]

☠️☠️☠️

[untold wigeon]

What's that tho

[calm pulsar]

I think there is a prompt on the website that ordering these works only if you order a frog from there

[untold wigeon]

Smoky jade?

[untold wigeon]

What's that tho

[calm pulsar]

its for the frog mini case, it is tadpole mounted

plate is hanging on these things Bigsly is trying to order

[untold wigeon]

😭

[harsh dove]

Ima tryna black Jade stem in there

With black jade bottom

[calm pulsar]

yup, and I think it sounds good, but im not sure if it is the housing itself or just the fact that it is lubed differently

[harsh dove]

And gugu top

All black basically

[calm pulsar]

yeah try that, I think there is something about it

[harsh dove]

With dark green stem

[untold wigeon]

Sounds clip it.

[harsh dove]

Mine should be here in the next half hour or so

[calm pulsar]

oh gotcha, thought you already have em

[harsh dove]

Nah they out for delivery

Just finishing up lubing my lavenders rn

[calm pulsar]

all right, just need to sort some work stuff out and I'll record it

[untold wigeon]

Sweet

https://tenor.com/view/napoleon-dynamite-kip-yes-gif-5860703

[polar girder]

Yeah the “ADD-ON” thing that I didn’t read

I have 80a tadpoles

Want to try them all

Geon said, fuck you Bigsly

[calm pulsar]

you could try ordering from cafege

[calm pulsar]

btw I remembered Aligner said this

the wobble is really low this way

[harsh dove]

Yeah

That’s what he told me

[polar girder]

I’m just trying to test some tadpoles ffs lol

That’s my best option tho

ATM

[calm pulsar]

these things might get rare soon since next frogs will be tray/gummy mount cases

[untold wigeon]

What are tadpoles? For mounting?

[thorn zealot]

Did u have fun lubing

[calm pulsar]

this is for use with the Frog Mini case

[prime orbit]

What are those for?

[untold wigeon]

Ah. Frogs, tadpoles. Makes sense

[polar girder]

Ok fine. I did it. 👁️

[harsh dove]

Yessir

[polar girder]

Then I’ll have them all

I’ll probably end up with 90a in a CF plate tho

[calm pulsar]

lol didnt think about it this way
but yeah, this is similar to gasket mounting, the assembly hangs using these soft things, like with gasket mounting

[harsh dove]

With black Jade knights

[median spade]

Tbh softer ones all that matter imo especially if you’re going for quiet as possible

50a or 60a

[harsh dove]

Yeah harder is gonna clack

Plus you already have cf plate

[median spade]

Oh he got CF too

[harsh dove]

lol

[calm pulsar]

if I were getting a frog I'd just get softest ones to compare with the ones that come with the case

[harsh dove]

Idk if he did yet

I think he just got pp for now

[cold bloom]

that new frog mini is interesting

did you guys figure out if you can friction mount the T case?

I know the G case has a center usb, but I wondered if you could just oring friction mount the T case like a tofu/redux

[harsh dove]

Possibly

[cold bloom]

if it's just strictly tray mount idk if I wanna get one lol

if I can oring mount it I'd grab one

optimum case is gonna be tray mount too likely eh?

rather get that

[polar girder]

Yeah not yet

[harsh dove]

Optimum case is both

[cold bloom]

ohhh okay

makes sense

[polar girder]

I’m gonna wait for PP to show up this weekend then throw it in and see what I think

Only reason I go CF is it PP is too soft feel

[untold wigeon]

@calm pulsar does the kbdfans CF plate tone down the rgb reflection on the 60he?

[polar girder]

I don’t think I’ll prefer CF sound. Just feel. But never know until you try.

[cold bloom]

I have a 70A oring for my tofu rn, I'd like to try a 50A in the optimum case or something similar

[harsh dove]

Smart man

[cold bloom]

I tried friction mounting the salvation @harsh dove it almost went horribly LMAO

[median spade]

CF stiff as it gets and on the clack side but you may like it

[cold bloom]

I know you said it wasnt worth it but I wanted to try, that shit got so stuck

[harsh dove]

Yeah I’ve done it, not worth

[cold bloom]

I had to cut the oring and pull it out

to get the module out

[median spade]

Salvation already a gasket system

That’s great

[untold wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/wattsthesafeword-wts-mrkristofer-that-sounds-hot-gif-24285029

[cold bloom]

I know I just had gotten a 50A oring and wanted to mess around lmao

don't do it

trust

[median spade]

I didn’t like my 60he in salvations anyways

No good

[cold bloom]

I like mine rn with the silicone pad

I burger mounted the 2 screws too and it made a big difference

[median spade]

Only other case I’m buying is the optimum one

[harsh dove]

You’re Optimum incarnate

[cold bloom]

I type really fast lmao I can't seem to slow myself down for sound tests

[calm pulsar]

@untold wigeon

[harsh dove]

It’s lower

Nice

[untold wigeon]

Much lower. I like it

[calm pulsar]

and the wobble difference is crazy

[cold bloom]

I'm trying to decide if I want to get a frog mini, optimum case or 461e next. Gonna wait and see how the last 2 fair when people receive them, but @harsh dove said it was hard to get the frog sounding good so idk if I wanna mess around with it lol

there's a green one on sale on reddit I've been eyeing for a minute tho

[polar girder]

Why

[calm pulsar]

ohh green one is cool

[cold bloom]

why what

[harsh dove]

It’s not that hard, it’s mainly just the spacebar

Alu is hard

With HE in general

POM and PC and all that are easy

[cold bloom]

fair

good to know then

I think I'm pretty happy with my salvation rn, I wanna make sure whatever case I get next is something different so maybe tadpole mount og frog mini or something oring mounted cause I love that mounting style

I think I'm gonna dive into mx switches first tho, I wanna get the pcb and some switches for my salvation and just leave it as an mx build to have as an option

[polar girder]

Haha tenturo deleted nvm sorry

461e could be sweet

[cold bloom]

lol I was so confused

and agreed, I am hopeful

[calm pulsar]

sorry didnt notice initially
yeah all darker plates reduce overall brightness

[untold wigeon]

Sweet Ty.

[polar girder]

Optimum case could be sweet

[calm pulsar]

would be cool to add raptor stem so its literally full black, but since ppl were replacing this stem it would probably wobble more

[polar girder]

Need someone to stop being cheap and lose some money making a proper gasket case for the 60HE

[polar girder]

Fk the raptor stem tho

But yeah hypothetically, would be sweet

[calm pulsar]

yeah, also black knights stem doesnt seem as good as I hoped

but im glad I ordered black knights, it's like getting 70 upper housings to upgrade your jades

[polar girder]

Hah nice

[cold bloom]

raptor stem magnet is kinda powerful too iirc

[polar girder]

Yeah that’s what’s up

[cold bloom]

does it change the rebound sound at all?

[calm pulsar]

you mean the black knights stem or the upper housing with jade stem?

[fluid ravine]

what yall talking abt :p

[polar girder]

I’d be down to pick up some switches to go more franken

But the raptor nylon top and bottom is hard to beat

I just don’t like the red 🤢

[calm pulsar]

well the black knights stem seems to have a bit quiter rebound sound

with jade stem and BK housing it is lower pitched

[calm pulsar]

check this out #🔧│keyboard_modding message

[quiet bay]

woah

that's nice

I wonder if you can do the same thing with lekkers

[calm pulsar]

I have some white gateron open bottom switches, let's see

[harsh dove]

Yeah I thought of that but yeah it would wobble more most likely and also the raptor magnet is too strong

[untold wigeon]

How do you know if a plate mounted stabilizer is compatible?

[fluid ravine]

oh shi

is this black knight top housing?

[calm pulsar]

yup

[polar girder]

Now put it on a raptor bottom

[cold bloom]

interesting

[fluid ravine]

May you do a 3 key sound test of the two?

[cold bloom]

upper housing with jade is what I was thinking

[fluid ravine]

my ears are itching for a comparison rn

[cold bloom]

same

[calm pulsar]

do you want me to test lekker type of switch this way?

[fluid ravine]

Wait what switches do you have rn? and you got time to spare for us? :p

i got a request

[median spade]

No I don’t spew misinformation so can’t be me

[calm pulsar]

I've got stock lekkers from 60he non plus

gateron ks-20 white lekker type switch

jades

gugus

[fluid ravine]

alright

Can you do 4 sound test comparison for me on one board

[polar girder]

lol

[median spade]

Something to check on the frog mini too cam is if the assembly is being pushed up by your cable

[harsh dove]

This guy

[median spade]

Mine was and it makes the space bar sound mega worse

[harsh dove]

Yeah I checked that mines pretty good tbh

[calm pulsar]

damn on the board💀

[polar girder]

Frfr

Always asking the most

[fluid ravine]

Can I get a 3 switch sound test of jades, ks20/lekkers, black knights, and black knight top housing swapped with the jades and ks20/lekkers

LOL

wait thats 5 LMAO

[polar girder]

It’s ok to say no

[fluid ravine]

indeed

LMAO

[polar girder]

Haha

[fluid ravine]

am evil for science

mua hahahahah

[calm pulsar]

would you like a large soda with your order

[fluid ravine]

yes and a soda pop switch for my side

:)

[calm pulsar]

im on my shift rn so I will do a test with keycaps, but in my hands or the switch tester, cause some shit can happen and I'll need my keyboard

[fluid ravine]

ah okay haha

[harsh dove]

Lubing Lavenders is so worth it

[thorn zealot]

when lubing

should i lube just the springs and stem

or the bottom and top housing too

[fluid ravine]

usually id lube every part

but when i get lazy i just dont lube the top housing at all

but only if lubed vs unlubed top housing doesnt make a difference

[arctic umbra]

For anyone in the server that can answer this, can I custom order the backplate of the keyboard to light blue

<@&490097707487330305>

[spiral canyon]

From Wooting? No, only white or black

[arctic umbra]

and also If im about to order the he60 should I wait for the he80

[thorn zealot]

hmm

[spiral canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/preference-glarses-mx-brown-cherry-mx-brown-keyboard-gif-21044520

[arctic umbra]

is the he80 going to be 60%

[thorn zealot]

i see other vids like alex or badseed say just stem and spring

maybe thats for mx switches

[spiral canyon]

80HE is TKL/80%

[cold bloom]

when I did my L60s I lubed the stem, side rails and bottom housing around the stem hole, but I haven't lubed my jades yet, need to find some time to set aside to get it done

they have the L60 stems and springs that I lubed before in them but they're old af now so probably need a new coat

[marsh saffron]

77.5% 🤓

[thorn zealot]

☝️

ig il see when i get a lube set

[cold bloom]

I've heard people lubing the top housing more often in he switches, I don't think the video I watched originally suggested that or I would've tried it, you can realistically lube wherever you feel like on the switch just make sure it's not too heavy or it'll feel sluggish potentially

[thorn zealot]

yeah

ik some ppl lube the top to lower the top out sound

[cold bloom]

I generally do stem rails, stem itself, bottom housing rails, and bottom housing circle the stem goes into

and springs

[harsh dove]

Yeah I lube the springs, bottom and top housing rails and inner cylinder and the stem on either side

[cold bloom]

^

[marsh saffron]

this is what i did too

[cold bloom]

basically anywhere there's friction I guess

[marsh saffron]

top housing made a big difference i found

[cold bloom]

you can lube top housing a bit to dampen the rebound sound but I haven't tried it

I bet it would tho

[marsh saffron]

it does

but i found it does "break in" after a few days/weeks

[cold bloom]

I think I'll give it a shot whenever I get around to lubing again

fair

[marsh saffron]

it still sounds better but it sounds a bit different after a week or so

[cold bloom]

makes sense

[calm pulsar]

@fluid ravine my super scientific method
Lekkers vs Lekkers w/ Black Knight upper housing

Jades vs Jades w/ Black Knight upper housing

lekker test in hand

jade test in hand

@untold wigeon @harsh dove check out too

[cold bloom]

ouuu I like the jades with black knight top housing

isn't super different but a touch lower pitch

I like

[calm pulsar]

yeah that's my thing I love it

[cold bloom]

I'm a fan also

[untold wigeon]

The click almost totally goes away. Nice job!

[cold bloom]

Just when I thought I was done buying he switches, they pulllll me back in

[calm pulsar]

thankfully gugus are pretty cheap

[cold bloom]

true, but canadian shipping SUCKS

for almost anything

it hurts

[calm pulsar]

is AE bad too? there should be some NA vendors too

[cold bloom]

usually from the US can be just as rough cause we pay duties on anything over like 50$

and US postal services have gotten more pricey to ship to Canada since the pandemic

it's bad now a days

[fluid ravine]

AA

[calm pulsar]

oh yeah I heard shipping from US to Canada is fucked

[untold wigeon]

USPS in America is completely fkkd lately. Shipping times are ridiculous

[jade storm]

why are you sceaming

[fluid ravine]

cus i came back from showering

and got pinged

[fluid ravine]

now this got my attention

Black Knights top housing is PC as well right?

[calm pulsar]

yup

the wobble with it is almost nonexistent

[fluid ravine]

that explains it

thanks

wait-

Sacro you swapped it with the lekkers whats the feedbacks on the stem wobble?

how drastic was it

[calm pulsar]

the wobble on stock lekkers?

its hella bad, even the top housing is moving lol

but these are I assume the very first lekkers, without any tolerance improvements

BUT even for jades it improved the wobble a lot, very noticeable

[fluid ravine]

So no improvement in the stem tolerance even after the top housing swap at all? damn

[fluid ravine]

oh shit

my brain cooking in frequency rn

[harsh dove]

Gugus are here

time to make some black jade knights

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/letgo-lets-goooo-pickles-lets-go-excited-gif-13808708

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-the-rock-rock-go-rock-lets-go-lg-gif-18455293

[calm pulsar]

now that I think of it, the white stem from standard jade would also look cool w/ black housings, like a piano switch

[fluid ravine]

ah

[cold bloom]

green stem from l60s might hit too

I have those in my jades rn

[calm pulsar]

yeah, would look great along with my gmk aurora polaris set, though switches wont be seen xd

damn upper housing swapped jades are officially my go to

[cold bloom]

lmao trueeeee

https://www.ashkeebs.com/product/hera-linear-switches/?attribute_spring-weight=60g

I think I'm gonna try these in my salvation

[harsh dove]

Black Jade Knights

[fluid ravine]

oh

my

days

@polar girder

get yo ass over here

[cold bloom]

too much to handle tbh

SO MUCH BLACK

[fluid ravine]

BIGSLY LOOK

GET THE CAMAERA

[calm pulsar]

pure sex

[fluid ravine]

GET YO MONEY UP

[cold bloom]

the sparkles in the black housing are chefs kiss

[fluid ravine]

[harsh dove]

Technically, Black Jade Raptor Knights

[calm pulsar]

boss music starts

[fluid ravine]

I vote Bigsly to fight

that's his boss

he got it

[cold bloom]

bigsly vs black franken jades

place ur bets now

[fluid ravine]

uh

uh

[cold bloom]

LMAO

[calm pulsar]

placing my money to buy black jades

[cold bloom]

real

[fluid ravine]

REAL LMAO

buy it off from CAM

[cold bloom]

I guess I just need black knights

[fluid ravine]

yup yup

[cold bloom]

I like the all black switch but I'd use my green jades

if I had to

[fluid ravine]

I guess I just need money and grow up

[cold bloom]

LOL not that easy sadly

I'm a fkn resident doctor so still don't make shit really

but such is life

[fluid ravine]

[cold bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/scrubs-nobody-die-huddle-raise-arms-team-huddle-gif-17150590

[calm pulsar]

after black jades imma need me some gmk cosmos and put it all in my black freebird 🐦‍⬛

[cold bloom]

gmk cosmos goes so hard

[fluid ravine]

i just need new switches :((((((((((((((((((((((

[polar girder]

lol what the frick

[fluid ravine]

Much knowledge yet idk what to get and if i could get it

[polar girder]

What’s that

Black jade bottom and stem with gugu top?

[fluid ravine]

whats what :)

[calm pulsar]

raptor stem actually

[fluid ravine]

heh

[polar girder]

This duh

[fluid ravine]

nah thats your match

[polar girder]

Oh nice

[calm pulsar]

but thats for looks, jade stem is better

[polar girder]

[cold bloom]

is there any diff between jade stem and lekker stem?

[fluid ravine]

yeth

[cold bloom]

I find when I use my l60 springs/stems the jades sound a bit brighter

but idk if it's the spring or stem lol

[fluid ravine]

should be a size increase in the mold if you get what i mean

i made a unproved theory about the thickness between the stem and top housing of the lekkers vs jades and raptors

[calm pulsar]

tbh can't tell a difference rn with lekker and jade stems installed in black knight housing, but maybe newer lekkers have a better stem

[fluid ravine]

Still have a feeling it could be tru

[polar girder]

Yeah I’m not messing with raptor stems lol

Lekker stem nice tho

[fluid ravine]

lel

[polar girder]

Naw same shit

[fluid ravine]

Sacro hows the black knights stock

[cold bloom]

I find that the jade and lekker stems feel similar, idk what causes the wobble in lekkers originally but lekker stems in jades don't have as much wobble as lekkers stock

similar to just stock jades tbh

[calm pulsar]

I havent installed them, but just in hands I can feel that they are lubed well and the boxed stem makes rebound sound kinda different, lower pitched I guess

BUT gugus stem is also kinda wobbly, so I will be just salvaging the upper housing for my jades xd

[calm pulsar]

def better than stock lekkers that's for sure

[cold bloom]

@harsh dove you ever try jades with lavender top housing?

[harsh dove]

My Jade stems are too tight

Same issue I have with raptor stem swap

[cold bloom]

I guess it isn't much different from lavenders in general

[polar girder]

Would gugu stem fit in raptor housing?

[calm pulsar]

wait you mean you cant install them?

[polar girder]

Might be fun to play around with some black knights

[harsh dove]

No I can install them

But they slow af

Too much friction

[polar girder]

But I want a black nylon top

[cold bloom]

black ink top

[calm pulsar]

I wonder how come...

[cold bloom]

might slap

would black ink v2 top housings fit jades/lekkers?

[errant yoke]

i like the L45 more than L60 imo

[cold bloom]

I don't see why not but idk

[calm pulsar]

have you tried standard jade stem or black jade stem?

[polar girder]

L45’s are goated for feel and performance

[calm pulsar]

wait lol I think I have a single black ink gateron switch here, gateron put them when they shipped my jades

[polar girder]

Sound just mid AF

[calm pulsar]

but the housing looks too different hm

[polar girder]

Fk me

NEED

HE OIL KING YEATERDAY

FK

[cold bloom]

Wait

How does it sound LMAO

I need that switch

[polar girder]

Bro tell me they work and I’m buy 70 oil kings rn ong

Just for the top housing

[cold bloom]

right??

[calm pulsar]

nahh sorry dudes, the hole is too small

[cold bloom]

damn dude

so close

[polar girder]

Figured lol

[calm pulsar]

lol even the spring in this switch is black

[cold bloom]

lmao

[polar girder]

Damn that’s hard

Too good

[cedar gate]

Would the devs consider making a red version of wooting coiled like take control but red instead of yellow

[cold bloom]

does the oil king top housing fit?

or same as ink v2?

[cedar gate]

Oil king?

Wait I legit guessed that

[cold bloom]

I think ink v2?

[calm pulsar]

I dont know which one is that to be honest

[cedar gate]

I swear without looking at anything else

[cold bloom]

lmao Dan the sentient being

knows it all

[cedar gate]

Like if any spring were to have black springs it's oil king

[calm pulsar]

they just put 6 sample switches here

all diff

[cold bloom]

does the oil king have the same issue?

[harsh dove]

Yeah it’s super tight with the black jade stem, that’s the first one I tried

[cold bloom]

would make sense if so

I don't have any switches left I didn't try to frankenbuild lmao, I put my l45 springs and stems into my raptors and l60 springs stems into my jades

it's so fun to mess around with them

[calm pulsar]

damn I guess I either got lucky with my jade batch or I will have some issues later, I swapped housings on just a couple of jades

[jade storm]

Is the prophecy true?

[calm pulsar]

@harsh dove do you have stock lekkers?

[harsh dove]

I have everything

[calm pulsar]

@cold bloom ig this is an oil king? i think all their mech switches might not fit, only the KS ones work

[cedar gate]

I read that as I hate everything and I would hate everything too if I I had stock lekkers lol

[harsh dove]

wow

[calm pulsar]

[harsh dove]

ikr

[calm pulsar]

either jade have changed between their batches or maybe gugus have different tolerances

[fluid ravine]

yes

[calm pulsar]

or maybe I just got lucky with a couple of switches lol

ill try some more

[harsh dove]

With the raptor stem, the stem wobble isn't bad, about the same as jades Id say

[fluid ravine]

All MX parts cannot fit a HE switch

[harsh dove]

Lemme know if you have any like that

[fluid ravine]

HE switch molds are quite similar but have a bigger mold design within

[polar girder]

Maybe I should tell this in Gateron discord server

[thorn zealot]

is it possible to 3d print a top housing for he switches

if so if someone can someone make a hmx he switch

[harsh dove]

Time to test some of these black Jade knights

[fluid ravine]

pls :D

[fluid ravine]

hmmm

scratch

[harsh dove]

Good to go

[fluid ravine]

yurrrrr

[fluid ravine]

what software is this?

[harsh dove]

top left

[polar girder]

Does black knight stem fit in raptor? Anyone tried?

[harsh dove]

i got u

[polar girder]

Bet. 🫡

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/community-ken-jeong-ben-chang-cant-see-small-gif-5154350

[tawdry tree]

That is essentially a stem swapped raptor, that’s how you get the mist benefit if you don’t mind the tightness.

[calm pulsar]

okay so I've done 4 more and there are some that feel slightly slower, but they still return fine

I think stronger springs and some breaking in will help, but that's in my case

[harsh dove]

Yeah breaking them in would probs help but I don’t like the tightness anyway, it’s the same reason I didn’t like stem swapped raptors

I’m fine with the Raptor stems even if they’re stronger magnets, they still work fine

Just more sensitive

Yeah I just did it with another one and it works fine, just too tight for me still

[calm pulsar]

too tight as in you don't like the sound/feel or does that introduce some issues

[harsh dove]

Feel

Sound is fine

Just feels way too tight

[calm pulsar]

yeah there is definitely some variance
i'll try using 70g and 100g springs later, we'll see

but I like how they sound in hand, hope that translates into less rattle in sound

[tawdry tree]

Is the the stem of the black Jades black rather than dark green?

[harsh dove]

No it’s dark green

I’m using raptor stem

[tawdry tree]

Oh

[harsh dove]

Feels better for me than the black jade stem , just a personal thing really

[calm pulsar]

black knights also seem soaking with lube lol, maybe that's partially why it's tight sometimes

[harsh dove]

Yeah they are soaked lol I thought about that too

That’s probably part of the reason

[polar girder]

Nice

lol

[harsh dove]

Im converting all my black jades rn lol

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/aknightstale-gif-25510921

making them knights

[errant yoke]

What is the most satisfying after market key switch for a quite sound and its fast just like l45?

[hard moon]

[calm pulsar]

I mean you're probably better off with your l45s

the other ones that are "fast" (weaker spring) are jades, but they are clacky

[hard moon]

1st of all: ALL hall effect switches are sharing the same speed of recognition

[harsh dove]

@polar girder

[calm pulsar]

dudes out there be playing on 4.0mm actuation and looking for weaker springs to account for that lol

[hard moon]

[errant yoke]

Oh okay, i’m new to this. what type of tape and burger mount do i use?

[calm pulsar]

if you're talking about tape mod, it is usually recommended to use painters tape, so that it is easier to remove later

in terms of burger mount, well, you just use silicone o-rings, Wooting YT channel has a video guide for that

[prime ridge]

I remember asking this question earlier but, as far as custom cases for the 60HE the lowest profile case is the Freebird60?

[polar girder]

See

Told you

Isn’t it sexy tho

[calm pulsar]

there are also some GH60 cases on aliexpress that have the switches exposed, but the way they expose the plate is kinda ugly

[hard moon]

ngl, i'm really considering to buy a bunch of Jades... but for that i have to know again how many keys the 60HE has

[calm pulsar]

they are usually sold in packs of 35/70
that'll cover a 60he

[fluid ravine]

ah shi gmk keycaps becoming smoooooooooooooth

ah ye

[tawdry tree]

Black on black with gold flakes. I love black knights and I love that you guys like them too

[hard moon]

plan is to buy 2 70 packs, because i've ordered a 70 pack already that was supposed to come with the 80HE.
I have an ANSI and ISO 60HE, so i'm looking at a required amount of 123 switches

[cedar gate]

I would buy a set of l45 v2s when they come out

[hard moon]

but anyway, now that I've done the math i should be fine with 2 more 70 switches packs in order to go full jades on all 3

[calm pulsar]

damn time to buy another set xdd

[calm pulsar]

need to keep some spare ones just in case too

[hard moon]

61+62+84 = 207 switches

so i'd have 3 spare switches

and by the time the 80HE comes i'll probably have like 3 packs of 70 switches already

[calm pulsar]

if you order from gateron on AE or from their website, they will also put some sample switches

im here clicking on some kind of tactile switch constantly, cause I forgot how that feels

[marsh saffron]

My oring for friction mount came with some random mech linear switch

Was a fun fidget until I lost it

[hard moon]

i know, got like 15 spare switches when i bought my tools from them

[thorn zealot]

i thought after these sweater weather keycaps i would be done with caps

but now im chasing that high

[mild plaza]

lowkey what are some good looking keycaps

im really new to this

[thorn zealot]

what theme u looking for

[mild plaza]

idk just some cool looking ones

[thorn zealot]

u can go to some websites like cannonkeys

kbdfans

novelkeys

and find whatever u like

[mild plaza]

thank you for recs

[thorn zealot]

np

[mild plaza]

ill check them out

[thorn zealot]

these are my keycaps rn if u like https://cannonkeys.com/products/nicepbt-sweater-weather

[marsh saffron]

I'm gonna be picking up some pbtfans BoW

[harsh dove]

Yeah Im really liking the aesthetic, I don't recommend anyone buy 3 sets of switches to make them tho lmao

[marsh saffron]

https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-doubleshot-bow

Simple and very clean

[thorn zealot]

i like em

but to me they just too simple

you know

[calm pulsar]

gmk minimal slaps too

[marsh saffron]

Gonna look nice with my white tofu + black PC plate

Simple is what I'm going for

[harsh dove]

It is bro

[thorn zealot]

yeah forgot thats ur build

[marsh saffron]

This is it as of rn

Not a fan of shine through anymore

[hard moon]

that's usually how it goes

and the reason why i went with the dye sub

[mild plaza]

the white on the white 😍

[marsh saffron]

White keycaps with black legends looks so good

[calm pulsar]

yeah even the black jades alone are hella expensive lol

[marsh saffron]

Especially with a black switch plate behind it

[harsh dove]

Yeah lol, then you'd need Raptors and Black Knights

Don't need Raptors but either way

If you don't like the tightness like me then you do if you want all black

[tawdry tree]

True but you can make a set of stem swapped raptors with that too (they’d be ugly af but still 😂).

[harsh dove]

Lmao yeah

These lubed Lavenders are nice af too tho

Def worth hand lubing

[hard moon]

ngl, i feel like these could match well with the blue Alumaze

[marsh saffron]

God damnit I'm already dreading it

But I'm gonna do it

[tawdry tree]

I was wondering if graingold uses lube or oil for their switches? Cause they’re always oily af

[mild plaza]

question

whats lubeing as you guys are using it

[hard moon]

maybe just some stained lube?

[tawdry tree]

205g0

[marsh saffron]

Krytox 205g0

[harsh dove]

Looks more like oil

doesn't look like no 205 lol

[hard moon]

i've noticed my 205G0 i.e. seperates over time

[marsh saffron]

Dielectric grease for the stab wires

[calm pulsar]

you mean on gugus?

[tawdry tree]

Yeah. I know 205 can leave oily residue but not like that

[tawdry tree]

Black Knights, Raptors, LTPs, Hejin, the whole lot.

[harsh dove]

^

[heavy slate]

the only modding ive ever done is put vaseline in my old keyboard 💀

[calm pulsar]

yeah they're like little oil rigs xd

[marsh saffron]

What¿

Vaseline???

[heavy slate]

yes

trust me it actually worked

[tawdry tree]

Olive oil for his springs too prob

[heavy slate]

it was a 30$ keyboard so I didn't care if it hurt the lifespam

[harsh dove]

I've noticed all mine always have oil around the outer part of the housing and on the outside of the rails

[tawdry tree]

yeah

[harsh dove]

Like where it clips in

[tawdry tree]

when you take them out, there’s always a square of oil on the plate

[hard moon]

maybe i'll go for a gamecube themed set...

[calm pulsar]

do you think if I clean them and apply 205g0 will it make them even more tight compared to oil?

[hard moon]

[uneven cradle]

I would if I could find the novelties

[tawdry tree]

Probably, 205 is thicker than whatever prelube/oil they use.

[calm pulsar]

i'll have a lot of breaking in to do

[hard moon]

they aren't that expensive actually. 40 bucks on Amazon and dye sub too

[uneven cradle]

Yeah but those are fake

[harsh dove]

I've contemplated getting that set, I already have Dualshot

[tawdry tree]

you’ll get to that sweet spot eventually bro

[hard moon]

it's rather hard to find matching case tho

[uneven cradle]

Cerakote case to the right colour

The rubrehose collab grey would actually be a good colour match

[cold bloom]

yes

sorry was afk

[uneven cradle]

https://youtu.be/eMvs-EX-Hr4?t=7540

it's pretty grey

[harsh dove]

Gotta contrast it with another color

[uneven cradle]

oops wrong time stamp

[hard moon]

i doubt it's gonna look nice in a lavender Alumaze

[cold bloom]

I was hoping top housing would be the same fit but I guess not

weird

[harsh dove]

Optimum Case lol

[hard moon]

[harsh dove]

You seen it?

Optimum Tech x Wooting Case

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[hard moon]

basically figured out almost everything of it already

[loud zephyr]

man I hope that Jane signature isn't the centerpiece for such a cool border

[hard moon]

there's probably an easter egg drawing at the bottom or when you remove the shiny plate

[cold bloom]

I usually don't fuck with thicker bezels but that case just hits

so well

[hard moon]

i mean a Wooting product without hidden easter eggs isn't a Wooting product to begin with

[paper bloom]

Thats good

[calm pulsar]

one piece case tho

[paper bloom]

Like that under the box trick ?

[paper bloom]

Thats still ok so long as u got USB clearence ur good to go

The stand offs are e z settle so long as u know what ur doing

[calm pulsar]

yeah I just meant this is not a tadpole mount case anymore like the original frog mini

[paper bloom]

O yea

[hard moon]

in general. I mean they told you not to screw up when you look at the bottom of the original 60HE case and the Alumaze60 had a maze (which was unsolvable btw)

[paper bloom]

Not wrong LOL

Which was a pain in the ass

[uneven cradle]

Pretty sure it is since it has a hand pointing towards the signature

[paper bloom]

Im p sure calder or someone wld be die hard enough to do the laze

Maze*

[loud zephyr]

I see, not that it matters given it's out of sight. On still photos it looks ok'ish

[uneven cradle]

Think there's gonna be an extra backpiece which has mickey mouse on it, they separated it in case disney got mad although the copyright has ended now

[hard moon]

Disney will always get mad, no matter if they have a copyright or not

[uneven cradle]

Yeah well that's what they were worried about

[hard moon]

i mean Disney is known to spam people with C&D letters as soon as they release anything with a Disney figure

[paper bloom]

Reminds me of ni tendo

Nintendo* with gmod

Retarded af

And disney are cucks now with the new chairwomen

[loud zephyr]

Would be easier just to use Rubre's wolf design, which is what's mostly associated with the name from the artisan keycap. And also a caplock that's a bong

[hard moon]

Disney is worse actually. They feel entitled af even tho their figures and stuff aren't under copyright protection anymore

[paper bloom]

Both are worse

Still is and that is something we can agree with

[paper bloom]

Thats worse af

[uneven cradle]

Japan just doesn't have any laws regarding fair use so they aggressively defend all copyright infringement

[hard moon]

i'm surprised they didn't go hard on Palworld

[paper bloom]

They did

But it got pwnee cuz of the community going up on nintendos ass

[tiny summit]

I was looking to purchase the cerakeys for my upcoming wooting 80he. If I understood correctly, I noticed the ceop explaining how the LED light is facing north on these switches. My question is that if I use this keycap set from cerakeys, do I need to flip the switch orientation south facing in order for the rgb backlight to shine through correctly? 🤓👀

[calm pulsar]

the leds are on pcb, not in the switches, so putting switches in south orientation will probably make the rgb less bright

[polar girder]

Yeah it’s like the opposite of a redux which is cool

[marsh saffron]

no leave it north facing

[tiny summit]

Thank you all! Had anyone had these keys before? Is it worth it? 🙂

[marsh saffron]

for gaming they arent the best

slippery ass keys

but aside from the spacebar they sound and look cool

[quiet bay]

Im waiting on USPS to pick my cerakeys package up to deliver to me

i can probably share my opinion after I receive em

[tiny summit]

Hmm.. I've also heard this.. but if that is true, them being slippery for gaming, what differenciates the difficulty between gaming and just regular day to day typing?

[tiny summit]

Thank you, hope you enjoy then!😌

[marsh saffron]

if it gets warm/you sweat a lot, holding down on keys/trying to quickly hit keys could cause you to misinput a lot

doesnt mean its 100% going to be an issue

but it can be

[fluid ravine]

ONE MORE PUSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[tiny summit]

Interesting.. You mean if you live in a humid climate? Or if you just sweat during gaming? Plus, can't the holding too long issue be solved by adjusting the actuation point?🤔

[untold wigeon]

I game on my Cerakeys all the time I’ve never once had a slipping issue.

[marsh saffron]

ive talked to others that have

but its not unplayable just not as nice/good

[untold wigeon]

Also the cerakeys kind of just look backlit with rgb on.

They will glow but it’s not bright. Looks kind of odd. Kind of half lit with the structure of the cap blocking some light

[untold wigeon]

Does an alu case make the sound thocker? Or it doesn't make that much of a difference

Cause im debating ordering one but idk if it's worth the time

[uneven cradle]

Depends, if you fill it with foam you'll have a deeper thock. Plastic is also thocky but a hollow sounding thock

[vital crow]

what is that mouse

looks cool asf

[proper plume]

If I’m not wrong it’s the beast x

[proper plume]

That’s what I got with Japanese legends

[untold wigeon]

Are there any good alu cases for 80he?

Other than the wooting one

Ofc

[proper plume]

Not yet I don’t think but some company will bring one out soon

[untold wigeon]

Some company, a specific one? Or we don't know yet

[proper plume]

Don’t know yet

[crimson sky]

I doubt we will see one

[proper plume]

We probs will yk just give it time lad

[crimson sky]

I heavily doubt it

there already is a first party one

and it would be compatible to only that board

[austere creek]

we actually already got requests from companies for case specs/design files to make custom cases

[austere creek]

the w1 didnt have an alu case

[untold wigeon]

The wooting one, not the model

It can be confusing ik

Other than the wooting (one)

[austere creek]

ok we dont have an alu case for the 80he

we have an alumaze60 for the 60% DZ60/GH60 board layout

[untold wigeon]

Ah it's zinc alloy

Well same thing

[austere creek]

not really

[untold wigeon]

Yes

Just a metal

Case

Thats what

I mean

[austere creek]

the main advantage is the zinc doesnt need a weight to be heavy

if you just want any metal for a case sure it may be the same but most people use metal cases due to weight

and sound profile changes i guess

[untold wigeon]

Does the sound become more thock?

I really want a deep sound

[austere creek]

if i recall right the more dense the case material is the less it would reflect sound. ofc youd still need foam inserts with a good pore size and such

[untold wigeon]

Well, the wooting foam isn't enough?

[austere creek]

different foam can sound different

[untold wigeon]

Damn

[paper bloom]

U cld run titanium

[untold wigeon]

Nice 1000 dulor case

[austere creek]

in general what makes a keyboard sound thock or clicky is complex and not just you need any foam, any metal case, any switches and such

i know some kbd youtuber made a good video on the complexity of keyboard sound

[tawdry tree]

titanium is more light, tungsten case needed.

[paper bloom]

Its the sound and feel

[paper bloom]

Aircraft aluminium

[tawdry tree]

more light too

[gleaming ingot]

It's the mp3 file inside each switch

[austere creek]

if only

[tawdry tree]

Completely silent switches and the keyboard has a speaker

holy

[paper bloom]

@tawdry tree u want a heavier one we can find obsidion

[gleaming ingot]

Actually quietest keyboard + switches with speakers for custom speakers

[paper bloom]

Or is it lighter

[gleaming ingot]

We have same brain wavelength

[tawdry tree]

not sure but tungsten is for sure heavier.

[crimson sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7sTadgmjKw

[paper bloom]

Osium is heavier

Osmium*

[gleaming ingot]

Was about to say that

[crimson sky]

osmium is also incredibly expensive and brittle

[paper bloom]

Thinking about it now i wish i got a floating board

[paper bloom]

Carbon fibre reinforced e z then we slap a tungstun cube in the middle

[crimson sky]

what

[paper bloom]

Yes

[tawdry tree]

Tungsten would actually be feasible I think. Not a pain to machine or work with?

[paper bloom]

Tungstun weight

[crimson sky]

absolute pain to machine

[paper bloom]

Carbon fibre cade with tungstun weights

[crimson sky]

in comparison to alu or brass

[paper bloom]

Plate*

Iron can work

[tawdry tree]

Ah I see

[paper bloom]

Or steel

[crimson sky]

steel is not uncommon

but steel plates feel really shit for linears

[paper bloom]

Depends on hows its done ig

[tawdry tree]

what the fuck, tungsten is worse to machine than titanium

[paper bloom]

If u run maglev system

[crimson sky]

it's always stiff

[marsh saffron]

beastx mini

[paper bloom]

Welp

[crimson sky]

almost as if it is harder than titanium

[tawdry tree]

yeah I didn’t know that

I thought it was soft and heavy

“soft”

[crimson sky]

it's literally what they make tools out of

[vital crow]

thanks

[tawdry tree]

lmfao, not sure why I think that. Maybe confused with another metal

only listed soft and heavy metal is gold 💀

Platinum 🤔

A keyboard case worth more than the house it is in.

That’s something.

[crimson sky]

lead

zinc is also easy to work with

and it is rather heavy

[dapper kernel]

Yeah 999 gold kb case when

[tawdry tree]

and it is safe!

[tawdry tree]

uranium case >

https://tenor.com/view/glow-mr-burns-the-simpsons-alien-nightmare-gif-4436471

[untold wigeon]

Obamium

Netherite case>>

[tawdry tree]

bedrock case >>>>

[crimson sky]

welllllll

it is still a heavy metal

[tawdry tree]

true 😂😂

[untold wigeon]

Yay

Find me sum seller

[paper bloom]

Netherite case when

[untold wigeon]

searching for some manufacturer

[paper bloom]

Minecraft

Villager

[untold wigeon]

well, i gotta get enough beds for the

miners

[paper bloom]

Na

They aint gonna be sleeping with that potion overdose

[untold wigeon]

???

bro

do you know

how to farm netherite??

beds in nether explode

[paper bloom]

Its been a long time since ive played minecraft

I know netherite is fucking rare asf

[paper bloom]

na no way g

[untold wigeon]

NA

north america

[paper bloom]

I see

[untold wigeon]

im blind

[paper bloom]

im half blind

[untold wigeon]

im 2/3 blind

[split dagger]

Ok I’m very embarrassed so I’m not really the handy type and basically because I was getting really stressed I wasn’t paying attention and I was screwing the wrong way

[paper bloom]

Im 90% blind in my right eye and 60% blind in my left eye matter of fact i cant see you ma"am

[untold wigeon]

im not ma'am

WHY EVERY1 THINKS IM A WOMAN

[paper bloom]

U know i was joking right @untold wigeon

[untold wigeon]

no

there were 3 ppl already

[paper bloom]

Ok matter of fact i cant see you sir

[untold wigeon]

that tought im a woman

[paper bloom]

There

Sorted

LOOL

[paper bloom]

Happens

[untold wigeon]

i aint nekra

[old swallow]

lmaoo haha

nah, i was just joking anyways

[dapper kernel]

femboy?

[harsh dove]

Morning folks

[velvet egret]

Morning Cam

[tawdry tree]

Nah nah, you had it right. He’s he so it’d be ma’am indeed. 🤓

https://tenor.com/view/i-can't-even-see-you-sir-i-am-blind-legally-blind-gif-14132104317079151247

[paper bloom]

LETS GOOO

[paper bloom]

Ok i cant see you ma"am

[fluid ravine]

Goodeo Morning

took me a bit to find the channel lel

[paper bloom]

@fluid ravine mornin

[fluid ravine]

Hey hey! Looking for a image rn...

A very specific one...

[polar girder]

lol yeah I got lost after reading that announcement

I was like oh god where am I

Where is my home

[fluid ravine]

[paper bloom]

Im now stuck outside till 0030

[polar girder]

https://drunkdeer.com/collections/accessories/products/50-35-pcs-linear-magnetic-switch?variant=50152225145135

These work?

[fluid ravine]

I see drunkdeer, I say no

[fluid ravine]

Bottom Housing

[polar girder]

Oh yeah

Gross

[calm pulsar]

these probably sound closer to MX switches than jades

I wonder where the sensors are on drunkdeer

[fluid ravine]

Ah damn @polar girder i think its a silent switch

[polar girder]

I KNOW

[fluid ravine]

Hehe

Suffaaa

[calm pulsar]

my hella lubed and tape modded ks-20s are very quitet, may as well do that lol

[fluid ravine]

same D:

[polar girder]

Yeah switch tape mod shuts them up it seems

I need

[fluid ravine]

literally sent a video of my board to Bigsly

its so fking quiet 😭

[polar girder]

I need a black nylon top housing tho

I don’t like this red

[fluid ravine]

bro got color xray vision

[calm pulsar]

lmao

[fluid ravine]

wait have i showed yall my sound test ;-;

[calm pulsar]

send it

[fluid ravine]

k

[mellow beacon]

why do all magnetic switches suck so bad compared to mechanical ones

can they please just make good ones

[fluid ravine]

Prepare yourself for a unholy Thockson board sound

[untold wigeon]

Anyone ever try Ducky keycaps? I love the look of this set.

[calm pulsar]

they have to be different structurally due to how magnetic keyboards are designed

[calm pulsar]

damn bro sound cut off once you started typing

[fluid ravine]

thats what im saying

[mellow beacon]

I figured but theres gotta be a way to make them sound good too

like the jades are alright

[fluid ravine]

Bigsly boss fight rn

[calm pulsar]

have you ever tried Jades? they are the closest to MX switches

[polar girder]

I can see the red ez and I hate it

[mellow beacon]

I have jades rn but I just feel like they could do sm better than this

I am legit praying 5 times daily

for a really good sounding magnetic switch to come out

[fluid ravine]

Switch Tape Mod has respawned again for no reason

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I prostrate daily for HE Oil Kings

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LITERALLY

I am prolapsing for them

atm

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Seems like an easy Gateron W

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Opens dictionary

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Just make it

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fr

lel

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Ay yo

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the day he oil kings come out i will do the unholiest of things

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Same

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ig can't really do anything new in HE switches, only if you somehow move the sensors on the pcb to a different spot lol

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For like a year straight

I’m a stay unholy once they drop