🔧│keyboard_modding

[harsh dove]

A couple people do, why what’s up?

[prime orbit]

Wanna know if I should get those or the black jades

I’m sold on getting a full black switch

Just gotta pick one now

[harsh dove]

Well the black knights sound like a “regular” HE switch as they’re open bottom with a box stem

Black Jades sound like Gateron Jades with a dual stage spring

[prime orbit]

Dual stage do anything for performance?

[harsh dove]

They have a faster return because of the spring

[prime orbit]

Or im assuming they all still perform the same

[harsh dove]

They perform the same really, just faster return after release

[prime orbit]

Hmm ok

Decisions

Black knights sound good

The name

But the point of new switches is to change the sound of the keyboard

So jades would do that

The black knights wouldn’t really

So no point in not getting the jades I guess

[cyan zodiac]

ngl boss man you not going to see the switches

and just know because of the black housing it will affect your rgb

if you care for that

[prime orbit]

I use rgb on white and 25% usually anyway just so I can see what I’m hitting

So as long as I can still see it’ll be good

[prime orbit]

Yeah but I don’t want to waste my money. I don’t plan on buying multiple switches just to see if I like them or not. One time purchase for me lol

[tiny summit]

Does anyone have a recommendation for the most thocky hall effect switch that is compatible with the 80he?🙂 considering that the wooting 80he has good build quality already. I'm wondering which switch is best to achieve that deep thocky sound 🤔

[old swallow]

offcourse we cant say for sure since the board isnt out yet, but i believe the NEO Lavenders were the most "thoccy" sounding compatible HE switch, but for the best info i would wait for @harsh dove to respond

[tiny summit]

Thank you! 🙂

[cedar gate]

I personally think the neo lavender is more clacky and poppy because of the closed bottom for maximum thock potential I would go with the ks20u

It's a lot like the lekker but with better lube and dual rails

[brazen sparrow]

Has the new raptors been tested yet?

[tiny summit]

Thank you everyone!🙂 do you guys think that mods will be nessasary for the stock wooting 80he considering all it already has?

[paper bloom]

For the prebuilt I think not

Unless you want to do tape mod to slap on to the gasket mount which wont be much of help

[steel hemlock]

Stock wooting is already an amazing experience, if you really want to go the modding route I’d heavily suggest going for the module

[paper bloom]

You can do switch change and a filming of switches as well as case change for the pre build once the 3rd party cases are out

Stock overall is rlly good as it is if u ask me

[tiny summit]

That's fair, I can't wait to get my hands on it 🙌

[harsh dove]

The Lekkers that come with the board are technically going to be the most thocky, that’s the deepest sounding switch besides stem swapped raptors

[paper bloom]

And dont forget the lekker v2's are upgraded versions

Compared to the V1's

Lesser wobble so I doubt there will be any mods done apart from Hand lubing

[tiny summit]

I would really like to try metallic keycaps as well as ceramic but it's a tough call regarding their stems and the sound quality.. not sure if metal keycaps on a zinc case is a good idea😅

[steel hemlock]

Btw, has anyone here gummy mounted their wooting or know anything about it?

It’s pretty much the mod with the least documentation I can find

[paper bloom]

Cam has done it Ive burger mounted mine

[old swallow]

aah, i love spreading misinformation online, nah but i didnt realise. i was just going of a fague memory from what i saw earlier lol

[steel hemlock]

I want to gummy mount mine but it’s so hard getting or understanding what I need to get

I found one site that sells them still in stock and isn’t 30$ for an oring after import

[paper bloom]

You just need a O ring and a PCB that settles it

Lemme check if Cam has it or not or sent

[steel hemlock]

These are the two I can get

And all stiffnesses available

Thing is I have a 60HE+ with stock plate mounts

So I’m genuinely not sure which I should get, would I need to switch to screw ins for the small or it just being compatible works?

[paper bloom]

Any stabilizer works

its mostly the outer rings of the PCB You gotta worry about mostly

Lemme grab the link

Wait a moment

[steel hemlock]

I don’t know what I’m doing and the shop saying “don’t buy unless using screw in stabs” and the other saying “fits some 60%” doesn’t help

[paper bloom]

@steel hemlock https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VEZ7O3GX_j8 The desc shld have the link

[paper bloom]

Some 60% depends

Thje confirmed size from graveshift are medium 30a-50a O rings

It will fit the wooting PCB

[paper bloom]

Some 60% just means other 60% PCBs might not fit and running screw in stabilizers are better than plate mount cuz of the fitting if I am not wrong

Either way it shld be sorted

Since you got the stock prebuild it shldnt be a problem if its a 60HE+

[harsh dove]

You’re most likely better off with the Medium Size if you’re running plate mount stabs

[steel hemlock]

Thanks, I had to go to the full video but the ONLY video I’ve found that has any sort of link or specifications for the oring

I’ll get the medium 45A from the site I mentioned (for anyone curious: https://mech.land/products/graveshift-o-rings?variant=41067113513113)

I’ll do an update once I receive them, thanks :)

Thanks for the help

[harsh dove]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[steel hemlock]

Oh perfect :)

[cedar gate]

Nw lol any switch can thock or clack depending on the rest of the keyboard but I just think the neos are a clacky switch

[median spade]

You weren't really, they do lean towards the deeper side and I would say they're a better pick then KS20u

compared against jades

KS20U after I tried them just pretty awful ngl and jades/lavenders should be the only choice imo

otherwise just use the lekkers it comes with

[paper bloom]

Happy 2 help

[steel hemlock]

Would you change the stock steel plate from the wooting to pom/polycarbonate for Jade switches? I’ve talked in this chat about it before but I genuinely can’t make my mind up

[uneven cradle]

I would/did

[polar girder]

I think it’s a worthwhile experiment

I do like the steel cuz it’s stiff and easy to work with. But the PC sounds better IMO

[calm pulsar]

if I had a frog mini, I would want to try an alu plate, it might be a soft clack due to combination of tadpole mount and metal plate

[harsh dove]

Frog Mini x Alu Plate x Black Jades

[honest sapphire]

keycaps?

[harsh dove]

GMK Symbiote

Not my best sound test lol but it’s fine

[polar girder]

Yeah Alu plate prob a pick up at some point

Would love black Alu tho

Would 100% buy a black alu and black nylon plate rn if he had them

[harsh dove]

Yeah you’d have to get it anodized to be black tbh

[polar girder]

New redux colors coming

X-ray update for cam

[cyan zodiac]

tray mount

[polar girder]

Like just get an alu plate from Tom then have someone else anodize it?

[polar girder]

Ikr

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[polar girder]

Interesting

[cyan zodiac]

frog mini number 1

[polar girder]

100$ plate?

[cyan zodiac]

where 100$ plate?

[harsh dove]

Eww on those brass tofu cases

And dope on the x ray date

[polar girder]

X-ray is a pretty clean set

I like the idea of x-ray on a acrylic redux

[old swallow]

oh haha, i quite like them, especially the right one

but X-ray opinion is W

[harsh dove]

I have no issues with the aesthetics, just the tofu itself is bland

[polar girder]

It’s simple and clean. Which I appreciate. Good value and weight. But yeah it’s over done and perhaps minimal to a fault.

[paper bloom]

If they made a 5 degree one

With a cornered and blunt edges

It wouldve been a easy buy

[polar girder]

I generally prefer cases with a little more texture tho.

Like the Fjell and the Frog Mini

[paper bloom]

U cld add 3m tape or duct tape

To it

Just to level the playing field

[polar girder]

But then you’re at 5x price lol

[paper bloom]

No? If u got existing duct tape around

Ur good to go

O LMAO mb

Misread

[polar girder]

I think I’m good on tape on my kb

Although switch tape mod is tempting

[harsh dove]

Yeah I agree with that opinion

[old swallow]

yeah, thats a fair enough opinion, i guess my taste is pretty minimal usually, so i quite like it

i mean, i got 2 of them already. altough the right brass one might make me consider getting another one if its not too expensive

[harsh dove]

3 tofus is crazy lol

[old swallow]

wait, i just looked up, and aluminium density is 2.7g/cm3, and brass is 8.73 g/cm3. so damn

that will be a chonky boyyyy

[old swallow]

also yeah, but i have 2 wootings, so

i guess i have to get a 3rd

nah jk. but i have a black and a silver, and the black is kinda boring.

with so many nice colours coming out since

[cyan zodiac]

try frog

say no to tray mount

[harsh dove]

Yeah I have 3 wootings technically

[polar girder]

That’s kind of the beauty of it tho lol

You can have 3 redux and still less than a frog mini lol

Can’t wait until we have more non-tray mount options

[vestal meadow]

Does anyone know a good site to purchase keycaps?

[polar girder]

Also give me max power/max density/max tuned magnets that can be tiny and add the least amount of mass to the stem but also work flawlessly

[polar girder]

Yeah there’s a bunch

[vestal meadow]

Got any links been trying to buy some but not sure what I should be looking for

[polar girder]

Divinikey, novelkeys, KBDfans, kprepublic, etc

[vestal meadow]

Bet appreciate it

[calm pulsar]

love the sound

[polar girder]

Need a “word” emoji/reaction

[harsh dove]

lol 3 of the same “basic” cases or 1 “unique” case, I’ll take the frog over that personally

[cyan zodiac]

^

[polar girder]

Yo I lowkey want to try this 461e or new Wooting silicone pad in a frog mini

[harsh dove]

How would you use the silicone gasket in the froggy?

[polar girder]

Just use it as a plate foam type thing

I think it would fit

Maybe not

[harsh dove]

Ah okay, idk if it would

[fluid ravine]

Goodeo Afternoon!

[polar girder]

Just to kind of fill the empty space around PCB

[calm pulsar]

ohhh so 461e isn't just a tray mount keeb, hmm

[harsh dove]

It’s both

[polar girder]

It’s similar to what the new optimum case will be

[harsh dove]

But still one piece case

Not two piece

[fluid ravine]

O we talking abt the nipple case nice

[polar girder]

One piece with integrated tray mount/friction mount

[harsh dove]

Yeah

Idk if it’s friction tho

The optimum one is

But idk if the 461E is

Cause it has those tiny slots for the gasket

[polar girder]

Right

Yeah true

[boreal fjord]

Bandaid/holee mod, do i have to use bandaids? Also medical tape and bandaids do they have a significant difference?

[polar girder]

Fitment could flex or not

[polar girder]

Paper medical tape is much thinner than a bandaid

That’s all I can really provide lol I’ve never messed with holee mod

[boreal fjord]

Mmm i was speculating that but looking for input

Or a second opinion i should say

i wanna also gummy mount my wooting aswell since my board feels stiff with the current springs im using

[fluid ravine]

As Bigsly said medical tape is really thin comparing to bandaid, the point of bandaid mod is still absorb the contact between the pcb and stab. However, by chance you will not like this mod as it could make the stabs feel mushy or sound too dampen but this all depends if you like it or not

[calm pulsar]

I personally did it with thin medical paper tape, never used bandaid, but naturally I'd go for the thinner solution

[boreal fjord]

Im trying to avoid mush so ill take this into heavy consideration

[fluid ravine]

But it would be best if you try it to see if you like it or not

[boreal fjord]

Mhm

[fluid ravine]

just try it on one modifier and see how it goes

[tiny summit]

Does anyone think that metal keycaps from awekeys would make a zinc cased wooting 80he more thocky? 🙂 not sure how it would sound with metal on metal.. 🤔

[boreal fjord]

https://youtu.be/f8mL0_4GeV0?si=GygF7C7z97AhX3IN

[fluid ravine]

to be honest i dont have that much knowledge on metal keycaps and how they soud, but id go on youtube and look for video with them

From my hypothesis i think they will make the board a bit pingy

just a guess

[calm pulsar]

I have a feeling that it might be very loud, but since it's a gasket mount maybe not as much

[hard moon]

there aren't many people who have any knowledge about metal keycaps to begin with since they're usually quite expensive

[fluid ravine]

yep

[fluid ravine]

What case foam are you using

[boreal fjord]

Currently the stock one provided with the module

Not sure how i feel bout it although

Feel like i can reduce the sound more

Currently tape modded aswell iirc

[tiny summit]

That is what I initially thought as well, I also took a look at ceramic keycaps and it seems because of the weight and how dense it is, it tends to make a more thocky sound, same with metal. I was naturally curios😌

[fluid ravine]

I was gonna note that since you are friction mounting there is a high chance that you will not get the bounce or flex you want as a traditional gummy mounted board as the o'ring is not making contact with the mounting posts due thr pcb not having cutouts.

But a solution to this is just using a case foam that can return pressure really easily like polyfill (think of a pillow)

[boreal fjord]

i see

[fluid ravine]

Wooting foam could do it as well by all means

But just say its kinda like a memory foam

Compress but takes time to expand

[calm pulsar]

ohh that's nice, do you think gummy mount will work with an alu plate? with the added wooting foam

[fluid ravine]

Like and alu plate from SMKeyboards?

fk idk what they're called

like the custom alu plate?
then yes

Cus the oring wraps around the module and between the plate and pcb

[boreal fjord]

I currently am running polycarb plate myself, originally had a brass plate

[calm pulsar]

I was thinking of ordering an alu plate from AE (since its easier for me and it's also in black) and then drilling standoff holes to make it compatible

[fluid ravine]

If so then make sure the plate thickness is also compatible

[boreal fjord]

How much different does alu sound from brass by any chance

[calm pulsar]

it's 1.5mm, should be like the original plates

[fluid ravine]

Wooting requires a specific thickness for the switches not having actuation problems

ah ok then thats fine

[calm pulsar]

tbh not sure, just wanted to try this out, I think you can't go wrong with PC or POM, just wanted to experiment

[fluid ravine]

oh shi you had a brass plate?

[boreal fjord]

Yeee

I liked it but it was too loud for my setup

[fluid ravine]

i think i have a chart for frequency hollup

[harsh dove]

Brass has more resonance imo

[fluid ravine]

^

[harsh dove]

I have a brass plate

It’s heavy af

[boreal fjord]

Brass felt amazing

[calm pulsar]

there is also an option for copper plate lol, but its 40 bucks compared to 18 alu one

[fluid ravine]

Stiffness thingy

I dont remember if this was the right chart

ill find the other one

[boreal fjord]

Regardless im stealing this chart from you

very nice

[fluid ravine]

Found it

[calm pulsar]

when I listened to Keybored's video, alu sounded brighter than carbon fiber, a nicer quality of clack to me

cf was more of a plasticky brighter sound

[harsh dove]

Yeah

Exactly that

[fluid ravine]

Yup sounds accurate to me

[harsh dove]

Best way to describe it tbh

[fluid ravine]

Literally

[calm pulsar]

if this black alu plate doesn't work or sounds way too bright in my fb60, I'll have to use kbdfans cf plate I guess

[jade storm]

that's beautiful, link?

Also, what's going to change with the Lekker V2? Will that be THE switch to have?

[fluid ravine]

Stem tolerance improvement

I think thats the only thing they'll change throughout the whole switch

Lekker v1 had alot of stem wobble which made the switch really chattery

[calm pulsar]

https://sl.aliexpress.ru/p?key=nGqXsi9

sry if its in russian, that's my region

also keep in mind these plates are not directly compatible with wootie

I'm just going to drill holes for standoffs, provided the layout works at all, but it looks correct

[jade storm]

What would be the best switch for a new build?

You know me Young Ver. TenZ

[fluid ravine]

All preference :)

But sure

If you like open switch housing yeah you could go for KS20u or Lekker V2 for what i say

Closed bottom housing i would recommend one of the Jade Variants or the Lavenders

[jade storm]

Cheers brother

[fluid ravine]

yup yup

[cyan zodiac]

jade more similar to a normal switch

so if you want something that you are familiar with

[calm pulsar]

yeah I always describe it this way 😄

[fluid ravine]

Im SUPER nit picky in sound

Jades to me are a good switch no doubt but it's not as close to a MX build for me

I still hear chatter from my ears :<

[calm pulsar]

yeah it's still not quite there, just the closest thing to a conventional mech switch out of all HE switches

[fluid ravine]

indeed

[harsh dove]

Yep yep, closed bottom is as close as we get to MX for now…

[fluid ravine]

[harsh dove]

Now just tighten the tolerances more and use different housing materials

Then we’ll be golden

[fluid ravine]

lol

Oil King HE- someone

Silent HE- someone

👀

[harsh dove]

Kailh BCP HE
HMX HE
Cherry HE
That’s all I want

[fluid ravine]

👍

[harsh dove]

Cherry Nixie HE

[fluid ravine]

All i want is SOME NEW DAMN SWITCHESSSS

cool down gonna last a pretty long time

:_)

[calm pulsar]

may I ask if you guys ship to Russia? in checkout it says "standard international", would an order go through?

was thinking of getting a frog mini

[cyan zodiac]

yes we do

[cold bloom]

I watched this video yesterday and now I wanna try my alu plate again lmao

[calm pulsar]

nice, thanks

[cold bloom]

I built my salvation finally, really happy with it so far, sounds similar to my tofu overall but I wanna try oring mounting it with a softer oring when it comes in tomorrow

there

[calm pulsar]

I like the sound profile, but there's also some ping or spring noise I think

[cold bloom]

Yeah I think some of my switches are a bit dried out so there’s a touch of ping when I type fast

[calm pulsar]

yeah it's the same for my jades right now, but Im lazy to relube cause I'm waiting for the module to rebuild it 😄

[cold bloom]

I might do it eventually but I’m dreading it lol

Maybe on Monday when I have time

[harsh dove]

Friction mounting the salvation completely defeats the purpose of the salvation.
Source - I done it lol

Doing that basically just makes it a $300 Tofu

My #1 recommendation for Salvation is to use purple Loctite on the screws for the leaf springs cause they come loose overtime and will cause ping

[cold bloom]

Great idea

[calm pulsar]

is there an ETA for those? so I can order along with the frog

[cyan zodiac]

1 month

[tiny summit]

Do you guys think removing the silicone pad within the wooting 80he will cause for a more deep/thocky sound? 🙂 considering that it's intended to remove the lower pitch sounds?

[normal schooner]

no poron is more thoc but i like silicone

[tiny summit]

So replace with poron to achieve more thock?🙂

[gilded hinge]

imagine if hmx made an he switch

their switches are so nice for the price

[harsh dove]

The best grip

[fluid ravine]

[honest sapphire]

didnt think the tofu redux was this heavy until holding it

[calm pulsar]

the italian grip🤌

[knotty iron]

@harsh dove If you had issues with KPrepublic delivery, how did you reach out to them?

[dreamy cobalt]

cant be real xd

[harsh dove]

That’s my grip man don’t shame

[harsh dove]

I don’t think I have tbh

[dreamy cobalt]

ouch

[polar girder]

Gd that looks painful lol

[knotty iron]

They took it to the US instead of Canada but the city names are the same

[polar girder]

Yeah with brass weight its dense lol

[old swallow]

i want the full brass tofu redux, that thing will be dense af

[polar girder]

Love that

[polar girder]

https://american-haptics.com/products/brass-rbt-1u-key-caps-new

[old swallow]

aw hell nah

full brass body and keycaps

now we only need to find a brass plate lol

[hard moon]

i should ask one of our contractors. We have someone who works constantly with brass

[old swallow]

i mean, im not actually gonna do a full brass build, but i will get that brass tofu probably

[calm pulsar]

brass case with brass plate, brass pcb, brass switches (brass stem and housings), brass keycaps

brass deskpad

[old swallow]

brass house

[unreal stone]

aint no way bro said brass deskpad 😭

[calm pulsar]

brass mouse with brass skates

[unreal stone]

CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

is it nicer to type with a higher typing angle (e.g tofu redux)?

normally have my shit hella low

[calm pulsar]

I went from redux to fb60, lower typing angle, it's become even a bit easier

[thorn zealot]

Is there a big diff between redux ur fb60

[calm pulsar]

redux weighs more, especially with the included weight, but outside of that I like my fb60 more

it's not blocky like redux, but that's personal preference

[old swallow]

blocky is good

why do you think minecraft is so popular

[calm pulsar]

here's mine https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1250752856756060230

[old swallow]

that is also very nice, its still pretty minimal, but has a bit more of a design to it

[harsh dove]

Yeah freebird has more flavor

Than the tofu

[thorn zealot]

Is there any sound diff or no

[old swallow]

cam, youre not suppposed to lick it

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-reaction-really-gif-14971007105596864554

[thorn zealot]

Wym

[old swallow]

digesting metal is pretty tricky

[thorn zealot]

U lick it like a popsicle

Silly

[old swallow]

oh

mb

[calm pulsar]

uhh I think in an identical build there's not that much differenece
I think fb60 should be a bit brighter due to that

[thorn zealot]

My mocha redux tastes like caramel

[old swallow]

oooooh

yum

you got the mocha one already?

[thorn zealot]

Yeah I have everything besides the module

[thorn zealot]

Here’s a pic of what it will look like

[calm pulsar]

my anodized green tofu tasted like broccoli, I sold it
sold anodized gray too since it tasted like aluminum

[old swallow]

aah ok ok, cause i recall a while back you asked which colour to get, but idk how long that was tbh

[old swallow]

oh yh yh, very nice

[thorn zealot]

I have black jades coming soon

Hopefully I can’t tell what is going on with the tracking on shop

[calm pulsar]

it will be good with the module's pc plate

[old swallow]

pc plate > alu plate

[thorn zealot]

I kinda want somethin like alu for more clack

[harsh dove]

Tracking on shop is usually behind the actual , you can click on Track on Carrier Website

[thorn zealot]

Thock is overrated

[thorn zealot]

The website is even worse

[old swallow]

no thocc, i want licc

[calm pulsar]

I will be getting a black alu plate on AE, hopefully it will be compatible once I drill standoff holes in it

[thorn zealot]

Is there a place that sells a compatible alu plate

Or do u have to get a custom or just drill it

[calm pulsar]

yes, there are custom makers of such plates, I just want a black one

[thorn zealot]

I heard someone named Tom is a custom maker

[calm pulsar]

https://smkeyboards.com/collections/pom-plates/products/wooting-60he-plate

[harsh dove]

What’s the carrier?

[thorn zealot]

4px

[harsh dove]

Most people new to the hobby go for thock first , then later convert to clack

[thorn zealot]

Same

I just converted early

[harsh dove]

Oh okay yeah , can take a couple days to update until it gets to USPS or whatever local carrier you have

[calm pulsar]

thock is like the most known buzzword in keyboard hobby

[old swallow]

somewhat agree, i for sure started and wanted thocc, but i have a Mode SixtyFive, which sounds really... "marbly".. and its so nice

altough, i guess that is closer to thocc than clack

[thorn zealot]

Yeah

Rn I can’t tell where it is

It’s either still in china or queens ny

[old swallow]

when my last board was delivered, the day before i got it the tracking said it was still in the US, but then it was delivered the day after in EU

[harsh dove]

Yeah clack or marbly is my go to

[calm pulsar]

I want my Freebird60 to play notes from the Lynyrd Skynyrd - Free Bird solo when I type

[thorn zealot]

Website says it arrived at an airport

But which one

[old swallow]

fly my child

[thorn zealot]

Yea brother

[harsh dove]

Probably my thockiest wooting config

[old swallow]

oh yea, thats really good

[calm pulsar]

that spacebar deep af

[harsh dove]

Hahah yeah

[old swallow]

whats the exact specs on that

cause i feel like mine doesnt sound all that different

its for sure not as deep, but its near-ish

[loud zephyr]

finally, a cheaper version of Baionlenja's 'I dipped my keyboard in acid and polished it with viking facial hair' aesthetic. If only it wasn't a wedge

[harsh dove]

Iirc it’s tofu case foam, tofu plate foam and wooting plate foam, friction mount, jades, PBT caps 1.55mm thick

And I think either CF or FR4 Plate

[old swallow]

wait CF of FR4?

thats really deep then

[harsh dove]

Yeah

It could possibly be pc plate but I don’t think it is based on the sound

Sounds closer to my FR4

FR4 gives a weird pop sound imo

[calm pulsar]

I'd think it's a softer plate judging by how deep that sounds

[old swallow]

This is my Tofu, Tofu Case Foam, Poron Sandwich, PC plate. Jades. PBT caps

[harsh dove]

I mean mine was recorded on a phone

[old swallow]

its always hard to compare from videos, since theres so many factors

but you can usually get a bit of an idea

[calm pulsar]

I think it still sounds quite different from Cam's

and his build is probably lekkers

[unreal stone]

ye, i feel like it's easier or your wrists

personal preference though

[old swallow]

yeah, its further apart then i tought at first

but still

[harsh dove]

Nah it’s jades I can hear the bottom out

[calm pulsar]

damn then its crazy deep 😄

[cold bloom]

Wait did you use two sandwich foam pads between the plate and pcb?

I might try that

If it fits lol

[old swallow]

i dont think that will fit lol

i think thats an error

[harsh dove]

Found the spec list @old swallow

[harsh dove]

Yes but I’m referring to the super thin switch pad that comes with tofu cf plate

And then wooting foam

[old swallow]

damn, what is making it so thoccy then

[calm pulsar]

is the weight installed?

[harsh dove]

Yes

That’s what “brass” is

[old swallow]

cause i feel like pc plate would just be much thoccier then cf

[calm pulsar]

I'd guess gummy mount + noise dampened case = hella thock

and pbt keycaps

[old swallow]

i guess, but does gummy mount really do that much?

[harsh dove]

The friction mount yeah

Changes the sound quite a bit imo

[old swallow]

huh, didnt realize it was such a difference

[calm pulsar]

ig tray mount screws create some tension on pcb and makes for a brighter sound

and with friction mount it just hangs

[old swallow]

yeah, guess so

maybe i should try that sometime, but for now. im fine with how mine sounds

i mostly use it for gaming anyways, so i cant hear it that muc regardless

[harsh dove]

Yeah it’s kinda crazy how you can make plates sound pretty different depending on the mods

That build is basically stuffed with foam

So I think that’s why it doesn’t seem like a CF plate

[old swallow]

yeah, i guess

[harsh dove]

And moleskin tape mod

That gives a deeper sound

[old swallow]

but its probably also the mounting style, since my build is not that much different other then plate

[harsh dove]

Yeah that too

[calm pulsar]

maybe it will even be not as thocky with PC plate, in that particular config

specifically due to how mods interact with each other

[old swallow]

anyways, i go sleepy sleep now, later bozos 💤 💤 💤

[calm pulsar]

good night

[harsh dove]

lol night

[cold bloom]

oh okay I figured that's what you meant

[harsh dove]

Yeah its possible, I haven’t done that config in quite some time, would be fun to do again

[cold bloom]

I don't think I have one that thin

[harsh dove]

https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-hot-swap-switch-pad

It’s kinda like this one

Not meant for HE but I used it anyway cause it came with my CF plate

Wanted to try it

Super thin

[calm pulsar]

I use it too, with my pom plate

[thorn zealot]

What is the switch tape mod

Heard it a bit in here

[calm pulsar]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[cold bloom]

@harsh dove what do you think about filling the salvation with poly-fil?

worth a try or nah?

[thorn zealot]

Thanks

Not reading that rn tho

[calm pulsar]

lol

[harsh dove]

Haven’t tried it, I’ve thought about it tho, just haven’t gotten around to it

I’ve tried case foam in the salvation lol

Kinda weird

[thorn zealot]

I get headaches when I focus trying to read or watch while in a car

[cold bloom]

lol I don't think any of mine fit but I think I'm gonna grab some poly-fil just to give it a shot

[calm pulsar]

it's supposed to reduce rattle and make it less noisy
I've done it on lekker type of switch, does make it quieter a bit
I have yet to try it on jades though

[thorn zealot]

I don’t think it is worth in jades

Maybe I’ll try it

For like a couple of them

[harsh dove]

@cold bloom

[harsh dove]

Feel like it would ruin jades idk

In terms of sound

[calm pulsar]

I might mess with it before my module arrives, maybe it reduces rebound noise

[cold bloom]

I like that tbh, just a bit less case ping

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[cold bloom]

did you put it on top of the leaf springs or?

how did it fit

[harsh dove]

I might try polyfill in it now that I’ve converted it to an MX build

[harsh dove]

Yeah just on top

[cold bloom]

I might try it for now until I get some poly-fil

Michaels is legit right next door to where I just left work too I didn't realize lmao

[harsh dove]

Yeah I have a big bag of polyfill lol

@cold bloom probably one of my fave Salvation x Jades config , I don’t remember what the setup was tho lol

[untold wigeon]

my 22mm 80g springs arrived today and im already in love with them

never knew how much of a difference spring length was, the rebound is so much quicker than before

[cold bloom]

I think it sounds a bit better now with some foam but I think I gotta lube my switches lol

[cedar gate]

Ks20u is short for ks20 dual rail so those are good for thock but if you want clack go with neo lavenders or my personal favorite gatreon jades

[cold bloom]

oops wrong clip

[tiny summit]

Does anyone know if they have submitted a sound test with the lekker 60's with the zinc case? 🙂

[fluid ravine]

@polar girder hows the plate coming along

[cold bloom]

@harsh dove

gonna get some poly-fil tomorrow

[fluid ravine]

polyfill 🔥

[cold bloom]

and some purple loctite lol

[fluid ravine]

ah for the standoffs or wtv?

[cold bloom]

yeah it sounded like a good idea

[celest parrot]

What keycaps?

[cold bloom]

looks like gmk dualshot

[fluid ravine]

indeed

[cedar gate]

How is the zinc case different from a traditional cnc aluminum case?

[cold bloom]

zinc is denser, heavier so will have a deeper sound theoretically

[cedar gate]

Huh so better for a thock build but worse for a clack build

[cold bloom]

theoretically yes

[harsh dove]

You can make anything clack

Just remove all sound dampeners

Aka foam

Cause Anti-Foam

[cold bloom]

I think that's why I find it easier to use generic terms like higher or lower pitched, resonant and deep etc

just easier to understand

but I get caught up saying clacky and thocky all the time haha

[fluid ravine]

Denser as in for less ping actually

And what CAM said is tru

We had a conversation at one point about Zinc cases vs Alu cases or what not

or just a comparison

[static tendon]

WS Dashes VS Jades

[fluid ravine]

i dont remember much and im not too much of a nerd myself but Zinc should be heavier and stronger? than aluminum which being heavier can also translate to it being denser which lessens the chance of it being pingy like aluminum

[fluid ravine]

hmmmmm whos the impasta!?!?

[static tendon]

🤔

I’m about to test to see if they feel identical or not

I tried one WS Dash switch earlier. Super sandy feeling, almost like a bad switch. Tried another one and it felt just fine

Could be WS Dash lubing issue. Never had the issue with jades though

[marsh saffron]

👍

[harsh dove]

We touched grass

We’re further ahead than 99% of the population

[marsh saffron]

im about to touch rocks (im going to the beach)

[marsh saffron]

might try some dock fishing idk

[marsh saffron]

what switches are these

[static tendon]

Purple - WS Dash (Jade re-color)
White - Jade

[marsh saffron]

why buy both?

[static tendon]

They’re supposed to be identical in terms of feel and sound. They come from same manufacturer. I liked the purple ones more, didn’t know until I already purchased the regular jades

[marsh saffron]

i mean, aight

[vernal iron]

How do you get the role for owning a wooting?

[thorn zealot]

Buy one?

[vernal iron]

I own one

Lmao

I have a 60he module

[cedar gate]

Me 2 but I gave up on the role a while ago

[thorn zealot]

Then idk

[vernal iron]

Why? Is it a pain to get? Other cords just submit a picture

[meager pine]

You have to do it through the wooting website

[vernal iron]

Oh, I’ll do it when home then

[cedar gate]

It's doesn't do anything so not worth the trouble to me

I ain't lying tho I have my wootstation pic #1252358822014488657

[vernal iron]

Btw gateron jades >

[static tendon]

🤤

[vernal iron]

With my Tarik

[static tendon]

You prefer jades white stem over WS Dash purple stem?

[cedar gate]

Lube job is better on jades

[static tendon]

Online I heard the exact opposite. I’ll be testing it here pretty soon

[vernal iron]

White

Mine is lubed (not factory prelubed)

[thorn zealot]

Do u guys lube on top of the factory lube or wash it off first

[meager pine]

Lube on top

[vernal iron]

^

[static tendon]

I hear people recommend washing it off to make the best of the new lube but not everyone does it that way

I’ve done it that way in the past

[vernal iron]

Meh

I’ll see , I might build a purple themed one for my gf

[static tendon]

I usually satisfied with factory lube

[vernal iron]

I might try washing first

Btw omnipoint2 are okay to lube right?

[static tendon]

Avoid using rubbing alcohol. I hear it makes the switch feel permanently more sandy

[vernal iron]

Just the innerhouse

[hard moon]

well, the factory lubing is fine, however, the hole in the bottom housing, the pole as well as the spring are usually dry

[static tendon]

I strongly prefer the pole being dry

[hard moon]

the only thing Gateron lubes during the manufacturing are the slides

[vernal iron]

Which site do you buy yalls keycaps?

[static tendon]

I can feel excess lube on the pole when lubed, no matter how little the appliance is. It bothers me

[vernal iron]

I need good purple ones

[static tendon]

Reddit mechmarket

[vernal iron]

Glorious had a cool set

[static tendon]

Otherwise Novelkeys is another option for brand new caps

[vernal iron]

Okay

[thorn zealot]

Cannonkeys is good too

[static tendon]

Drop is another option https://drop.com/buy/drop-mito-gmk-pulse-custom-keycap-set?mode=shop_open&defaultSelectionIds=971590&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=20609710497&utm_term=&utm_content=&utm_keyword=&utm_placement=&utm_network=x:m::&utm_device=&mode=shop_open&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwYHv687_hgMVng-tBh3CsA6PEAQYASABEgLs9fD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

[thorn zealot]

For those who don’t use any case foam or other dampeners

Does ur kbs sound hollow

Or do u guys just deal with it

[vernal iron]

I was looking at drop too

[static tendon]

When I didn’t use foam I didn’t like the sound of it. You start hearing much more imperfections

[hard moon]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[marsh saffron]

Bxm>>>

[static tendon]

But @harsh dove seems to like not using foam

[thorn zealot]

Yeah ik

I want more clack

[harsh dove]

Yeah F foam

[thorn zealot]

Is just I don’t want my kb to sound hollow too

[marsh saffron]

silicone > foam

[thorn zealot]

Ong

[jade storm]

that's so dope

[sweet oak]

Fill it with switches

[static tendon]

I also prefer more clack

This is silicone/jades

[thorn zealot]

Yes

What case

[static tendon]

The one on this front page. It’s the salvation case in the textured white variant

[thorn zealot]

Ah

[sweet oak]

Salvation copper slag variant is so good

[static tendon]

I love the salvation cases. I was close to getting another one just to have another color option but it’s a bit overkill

Eventually they’ll sell out and not restock from my understanding

But in my opinion they are only worth purchasing when they go on sale for that $170-ish price

[sweet oak]

Yeah sadly copper slags sold out otherwise i would have snagged that one

[static tendon]

Ah, that is a bummer 😢

Anyone can pitch in here but how much can it take to build your “end game” wooting board?

[fluid ravine]

yes

[hard moon]

A LOT

[harsh dove]

Your entire being and existence

[polar girder]

👁️👄👁️

[static tendon]

Haha yeah it gets pricey

[marsh saffron]

Mines already cost me like 650 cad, and I still want new switches and keycaps

[sweet oak]

Too much….

[hard moon]

like a fucking lot

[fluid ravine]

i know you waaant thaaaaaaaaaat

[hard moon]

endgame 60HE is a tungsten case

[sweet oak]

Endgame is no case

[harsh dove]

Yeah if it never leaves the house

[sweet oak]

Back to square one

[polar girder]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[harsh dove]

I go to the gym when I wanna workout, not my keyboard

[hard moon]

well, according to my calculations it's 4 kg we're talking about at the end

case weight only

[harsh dove]

How thick

[hard moon]

Alumaze like

[harsh dove]

Oh

[fluid ravine]

nah that shit finna end my life ill tell you that

[harsh dove]

I was assuming thicker

[hard moon]

that's just 4 kg for the case

[harsh dove]

Yeah

Basically a gallon of milk

[fluid ravine]

dude i touch that i die instantly

pochizo sees it they died instantly

[hard moon]

artisan metal keycaps, silicon poured inlay and you're easily looking at like 5.5 kg for a 60%

but the tungsten made Alumaze alone will cost you 5-6k€

the block itself costs 4k

[harsh dove]

Tungsten keycaps

Tungsten plate

Tungsten weight for the tungsten case

[sweet oak]

Gotta work those muscles

[harsh dove]

Go all in

[sweet oak]

https://tenor.com/view/roan-cat-flex-flexing-muscles-gif-27068692

[hard moon]

tungsten keycaps? i don't know... the weight of these alone will probably activate a key

[static tendon]

Jades

WS Dashes

[cold bloom]

I think there's a sale on salvations I saw last night let me check again

[static tendon]

Yeah they sound identical as expected 😂

[cold bloom]

https://novelkeys.com/products/salvation-keyboard

it's 150$ on novelkeys rn

[fluid ravine]

gib

jk

[static tendon]

I like the purple more tho 😎

[fluid ravine]

yea i fk with the purpol mor

[static tendon]

Soul black is 150$! That’s the cheapest I’ve ever seen it yet

[cold bloom]

yes sir!

[static tendon]

Oh shoot, white is sold out 🥲

Btw the packaging for the WS Dashes is a bit disappointing

Jades has that container while dashes come in a plastic bag

[loud zephyr]

This is the way to go. No need to gush over GMK's font quality when you can just go without

[hard moon]

that's usually how switches come

[static tendon]

All Lekker switches also come in a container

[hard moon]

yeah, because they're from Gateron to begin with

[static tendon]

Yeah could be. I think my mx style switches in the past also came in bags

[hard moon]

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Wooting_Lekker

[median spade]

Wait why did you buy both haha

[static tendon]

I like the purple stem more 🤷‍♂️ but the jades were off Amazon so I should be good

[hard moon]

it's known to everyone that Gateron manufactures the Lekker switches. It was even told in several development update videos

[static tendon]

Also didn’t know about WS Dashes til after I purchased jades

[median spade]

Well I respect it I suppose even though you can’t see them haha

[static tendon]

It’s all about the small details 😎

[harsh dove]

You must be new here… jk lol
But more often then not, for new switches, they never have official packaging until later on,if ever

[static tendon]

Yeah for sure. Jades did have a package though, kinda nice to see

Eventually I plan to have a little shelf with switches organized somewhere

Those little containers would be nice to have around

[harsh dove]

Yeah I got official packaging for all my Gateron switches, anything else tho, plastic container with no branding

All my Kailhs, HMX, etc all clear containers

[static tendon]

Do you get those clear containers from a specific place?

[harsh dove]

Nah that’s just what they sent them in

I end up putting them in these tho

Like $1 each on AliExpress

[cold bloom]

I need some of those

how are the black jades btw @harsh dove

I saw you said nothing special but I figured I'd ask

[fluid ravine]

They're just more responsive

[cold bloom]

interesting, like they rebound faster?

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[cold bloom]

fair

[fluid ravine]

Dual Stage spring

everything else is the same

[cold bloom]

yeah that makes sense

[fluid ravine]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

we got them performance jades

yurr

[cold bloom]

idk what else there really is to do to make he switches sound better at this point with the weight of the stem

maybe some kinda top housing dampening?

idk

[fluid ravine]

llol

grab all the specifications of the HE switch market mold design

compare all of them

see whats different and what could be improved or combined

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cold bloom]

lmao I ain't got time for that

just curiousity

[fluid ravine]

just think of it in your head

thats what i do

[cold bloom]

ez

[fluid ravine]

lel

[cold bloom]

done

nothing to be done

sorry

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[cold bloom]

LOL

[fluid ravine]

If you were to make a HE switch, what would it be like

[cold bloom]

gateron black ink with he stem

personally

[fluid ravine]

hm

[cold bloom]

I know it's not needed, but I wonder what some kinda metal leaflet would do to he switches sound

like if it wasn't magnetic

I guess that would ruin the adjustable actuation point of them in a way but just curious sound wise

[fluid ravine]

Linear
Top Housing: INK
Bottom Housing: INK
Stem: POM
4.0mm travel
60g actuation / 70g bottom out
Transparent housing

like that?

[cold bloom]

yeah basically, I just bet the added weight would make it sound like other he switches tho

[fluid ravine]

This is from a Black Ink V2 Specification

[cold bloom]

cause jades have pom stems also

[static tendon]

Oooo I'll have to order some soon

[fluid ravine]

They all have POM stems lol

[cold bloom]

exactly lol

[static tendon]

Oh geez, so just a heavier jade? What spring weight do they use

[cold bloom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fe37TLjI5E

I mean you can get jades and some other switches to sound similar, but there's just that weight rebounding that makes diff noise in he switches

[fluid ravine]

I actually dont know how heavy they are but dual stage springs are suppose to give the switch more responsive feel

"The design of the two-stage spring makes it longer than a normal “one-stage” spring. This means that the spring is compressed more than a one-stage spring during the unactivated state, and it reaches its bottom out weight more quickly. This makes the downpress feel more firm and consistent, as there is a smaller range of forces between the beginning of the keypress until bottom out or even actuation. In addition, the upstroke after lifting your finger is noticeably faster, meaning that there is the ability to rapidly repeat keystrokes in a shorter amount of time. Two-stage springs are also less likely to have spring ping because being more compressed even in the unactivated state means that there is less room for the spring to move/rotate around."

[cold bloom]

makes sense

you kind of compress the spring in the middle first

so it would get firmer quicker

[thorn zealot]

Just sauce me some hmx he switches alr

[cold bloom]

that's what im sayin phish

is that so much to ask

[thorn zealot]

I’m done with this current he shit rn

[fluid ravine]

real lol

[cold bloom]

cheese he switches

would slap

[static tendon]

Geez, I was thinking to spring swap my regular jades with the L45 lekker springs

[cold bloom]

I put my l60s in my jades

[static tendon]

I think I prefer the lighter spring but a 50gram spring would be just right

[cold bloom]

I also put the silicone pad back in, you inspired me @static tendon

[thorn zealot]

I might build a sep mx kb with hmxs if nothing else is gonna happen to he switches

[fluid ravine]

So all we could do with these HE switch market is just experiment or create new housing material combinations, unique systems like dual rail or what not, and stem tolerance mold specifications (needs improvement for chatter) | for now

[static tendon]

Oh nice, I heard because the Jade is more compressed that they might feel heavier. Did you notice that at all?

[cold bloom]

not really a huge difference, I could feel it myself but it was fatiguing or anything

[blazing wren]

where do yall recommend getting new caps?

[cold bloom]

I just prefer a heavier switch

[blazing wren]

im new to all this

[cold bloom]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[static tendon]

Oh yeah, you'd say that L60's are heavier than Jades as well? I didn't try out my L60's all that much

But L60's were heavy

[blazing wren]

love u

[cold bloom]

they are slightly, I think the jades work out to between the l60/45 somewhere

but I love the weight of the l60s

[fluid ravine]

yeah jades are a bit lighter than the 60

[static tendon]

I gotta disagree with that, L60's are heavy, similar to the Jades, but the L45's are super light

[fluid ravine]

i very much prefer 60+

[cold bloom]

yeah l45 is way too light for me

[static tendon]

Kinda weird. Jades feel like a 59 gram spring if anything

[cold bloom]

l60 is not much diff than jades but I could notice it at first

might have been a bit of placebo also

[static tendon]

L45 feels super light yeah, but I did like them

Ah

[cold bloom]

I wish they had the force curve on the site for the jades lol

Just to know for sure

[static tendon]

I wish Wooting had a 50 gram replacement spring

[fluid ravine]

yeah all we could know is the inital force would be 30 grams and the bottom out force being 50 grams

with +-7 or what not ofc

[static tendon]

https://wooting.io/product/lekker-spring-packs?Weight=Linear35 Anyone rock the 100 gram springs?

[cedar gate]

I would never go past 63.5

[static tendon]

I was thinking to go 200 gram ngl

JK that's insane

[cedar gate]

50 is the sweet spot on a performance board for me

[static tendon]

I agree

Light but springy

[cold bloom]

100g would be too much for me

not that stronk

[static tendon]

I gotta see the hands of someone who uses the 100 gram springs

[cold bloom]

right

although most of the muscles that control your hands are in your forearm

its just tendons past your wrist mostly

I had a fkn anatomy session on the upper limb today actually lmao

[static tendon]

Bro's hands be looking like this using those 100 gram springs

[cold bloom]

yup

[sweet oak]

Built like a greek god

[static tendon]

Fr fr

[harsh dove]

I like em tbh, still need to lube the springs tho

[cold bloom]

fair

my jades are in dire need of that

but I don't want to at all lmao

[harsh dove]

You can notice the faster return on em but they sound like Jades

[cold bloom]

also I backed the 2 screws off a bit in the salvation, forgot you're supposed to do them halfway

feels/sounds way better

[harsh dove]

Yeah I have mine burger mounted

[static tendon]

From my experience if you do that, the springs get loose and start to rattle over time

I have re-tightened my salvation screws about 20 times now

Kinda insane, so I just tightened them a smidge more to help with that problem. I still have to tighten them here and there but significantly less now

[cold bloom]

I just meant the 2 that screw the pcb in

the rest of them I screwed in so hard I almost bent my allen wrench

LMAO

[static tendon]

Yeah exactly

I'm talking about those 2 as well

[cold bloom]

they're already kinda loose tho and it just holds it from moving

its not really compressing it in

[static tendon]

These ones right

[cold bloom]

yeah

I barely screwed them in

and it just holds the assembly from sliding

they're loose af

[static tendon]

Right, but if you do that, they go loose over time

Like no matter what you do, they eventually loosen and slightly rattle. It's not bad but it's noticable

I've re-tightened them many times already LOL

Like try out a sound test, I'm sure you'll hear them rattle around a little

[cold bloom]

they're not rattling for me rn

I counted 3 full turns before the screws came out from when I felt resistance, backed them out one full turn and they seem fine for now

[static tendon]

Perhaps I just under-tightened them. But I liked the feel more

[cold bloom]

fair

I think I'll have to see how it goes, I don't mind taking the 2 keycaps off the odd time to retighten it to resistance then just back it off a touch

[static tendon]

I had them loosen up many times though, I'm constantly re-tightening. It usually happens if I remove the cable/replug the cable

[cold bloom]

I just found when I tightened it even to where I felt a bit of resistance it just sounded a bit inconsistent

[static tendon]

Just over time it gets more loose that way

[cold bloom]

yeah I'll have to check for it over time

good to know tho

[static tendon]

100% I would agree on that. It's why I ran it loose as well

[cold bloom]

I think alexotos in his build said the guide he was told to do them half way too

so idk

I couldn't find the build guide from the salvun discord anymore it was gone

[static tendon]

Since I just swapped my switches, I re-tightened everything again today. But it sounds solid now. No rattle at all

[cold bloom]

Yeah I really like the way mine sounds rn with the silicone pad and loosened a touch

[static tendon]

Yeah, if you had a MX style PCB, you can run more flex. These wooting plates have stand offs that make them rock hard when typing. Salvation doesn't take full advantage of the wooting PCB

[cold bloom]

Im gonna get some poly fil sometime this weekend and give that a shot

[static tendon]

It's too stiff

[cold bloom]

I agree, I put my poron pads just a touch towards stiffer too

Like instead of dead middle I put them more towards the end but still covering the dot in the middle

maybe like 1/3 closer the length of the pad

[static tendon]

Oh yeah? Why's that?

[cold bloom]

just cause I knew I didn't want a lot of flex

it's probably a minor difference

I prob moved it like 3mm

[static tendon]

I should have centered mine. Lemme find a pic real quick

[cold bloom]

mine probably aren't all perfectly same spot but I tried to go like 1/3 over the side where the springs screwed in

2/3 over the dot towards the poron end of the spring

instead of 1/2

[static tendon]

Hmm I couldn't find a photo without my leaf springs on. It's been a while since I've taken them off. I'll have to do that next

[untold wigeon]

lol

[static tendon]

You use 100 gram springs??

[fluid ravine]

Uses with cerakeys

[static tendon]

Dang

[untold wigeon]

Yeah I just got them the other day

[tawdry tree]

I tried stem swapped black knights with 120gram springs for a bit and that’s insanity. Eddie Hall Effect switches 💀

[tiny summit]

does anyone know what sound gummy mouting the 80he would cause? Clacky or thocky? 🙂

[calm pulsar]

80he is gasket mount already, I think it can't be gummy mounted?

[tiny summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbC4UpRDf48 timestamp 3:50 🙂 you can!

if anyone prefers to switch it out 🙂

Do you think gummy mounting would sound more thocky vs the gasket mounted? 😄

[calm pulsar]

I see, well I would assume gasket mount is softer overall, so it's probably more thocky than gummy mount

imo gummy mount is usually used for those cases that can't allow for gasket mounting anyway

[tiny summit]

gotcha 🙂

TY!

[cold bloom]

I can't find mine either

but I found a photo of the completed build

[harsh dove]

How are the switches at least?

I get mine Monday I think

[tawdry tree]

Black Knights? They’re alright. I like them over Raptors because of stem wobble and aesthetics 😂

and for the price, nothing is really close

[calm pulsar]

yeah the price is great

[polar girder]

I like the uniformity of this PBS profile

Kind of shallow tho

DyeSub PBT

[calm pulsar]

just got a message that gugus arrived

[thorn zealot]

My black jades went from china to ny

And then ny to germany?

[prime orbit]

Do you have black jades too?

Also how does the rgb get diffused on the black knights?

[tawdry tree]

Nah, just the Balck Knights. Cam has the Blakc Jades and soon Black Knights too.

[prime orbit]

Ah ok

[tawdry tree]

It’s just a tiny bit darker but with the bright LEDs it’s hardly noticeable

[prime orbit]

Ahh ok

Yeah I’m waiting for cam to get his bc I’m deciding between those 2 rn

[tawdry tree]

Black Jades’ top housing is slightly green so it’ll be different

[prime orbit]

Oh they have some green?

Didn’t even look like it

[tawdry tree]

Black Jades are just Jades. Black Knights are just Raptors with a box stem.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, it’s a dark translucent green and a dark green stem too.

Only the bottom housing is black black.

[prime orbit]

Black knights are full black?

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, black stem and bottom housing, a translucent black gold flaked top housing.

Like golden glitter

[prime orbit]

Hmmm

Ok

I’m assuming the jades sound more thock

[tawdry tree]

Vise versa

Jades are clacky

[prime orbit]

Black knights are more thock?

[tawdry tree]

Black Knights similar to Raptors; more thocky, deeper sounding.

[prime orbit]

Oh then I’m getting black knights

They sounds cooler

And cheaper

Easy

[tawdry tree]

If you want to go for thock

definitely

[jade storm]

What're those like?

How do they look? I'm so down to have an all black Hall Effect switch

[tawdry tree]

very decent switches especially for the price

[tawdry tree]

I’ll send a pic in 2 min

[jade storm]

Cheers

[prime orbit]

Well personally I wanted to just get the best performance but I was educated that no switch is different for performance

So yeah I guess sound profile and color and switch name is the next best thing LOL

[prime orbit]

Good price?

[tawdry tree]

Yeah good price

I got them for 20 soemthing too

you can check AE too depends where you’re from

might be cheaper and/or faster

[prime orbit]

Idk if I trust AE lol

[tawdry tree]

Not quite 2 minutes 😂😂😭

[tawdry tree]

You can trust AE, it’s KRepublics AE store actually 😂

[jade storm]

that's fucking dope whatttt

[prime orbit]

Pretty cheap.

Honestly I don’t even have anything else but that’s so cheap I might pull the trigger lol

[tawdry tree]

$18 for 70 is insane

[prime orbit]

Yuh

That’s why I didn’t trust it 😭

[tawdry tree]

AE trustable, you just need to check what you’re buying (which applies for most sellers).

[dapper kernel]

u cant really tell fakes on AE until u receive the product

[prime orbit]

Is this all I need?

To start

Eventually I’ll get different key caps and the wire from wooting

$300 keyboard sheesh

My wallet is crying

[tawdry tree]

I would def get wooting’s PBT caps

it’s $10 more iirc

but worth it entirely

[prime orbit]

Well those are placeholders cuz I’ll be getting these ones

So I’m just getting the cheapest one

[tawdry tree]

Hm, then maybe get none at all?

The etched abs is pretty shit in general, so it’d be a waste of money imo

[prime orbit]

I’ll only use them for like 2/3 months

[tawdry tree]

up to you

I’d get pbt even if it’s $10 more

[prime orbit]

Hmm

It’s $40

Vs $10

That’s uh

A lot more lol

[tawdry tree]

does it not get halved when you add them

[prime orbit]

Nope

[tawdry tree]

eh

it should

[prime orbit]

Ok wait

I had to go through the whole picking everything

It goes down to 20

[prime orbit]

I’ll do it

[tawdry tree]

yeah

[prime orbit]

The detachable cable I’ll wait on

Or maybe I just go for it

Hmm

I’m already gonna spend so much 😭

[tawdry tree]

😂😂😂

[prime orbit]

These are the right stores right?