🔧│keyboard_modding

[cold bloom]

I guess for ventilation or something for pressure build up idk

but I plugged it with foam and taped it

[visual sonnet]

ohh the rectangle one?

[cold bloom]

yeah

[visual sonnet]

im pretty sure it has a purpose tho

[cold bloom]

not sure but I find it sounds better when I plug it

otherwise my asd keys sounded a bit more resonant

[visual sonnet]

already got fingerprints all over the case, jesus

[visual sonnet]

ill look into it

[cold bloom]

just something you can try def dont have to

[visual sonnet]

yeah ill look into it

[cold bloom]

Ive just had this case for a while so ive messed around with it a lot haha

[harsh dove]

For reset button on PCB

[cold bloom]

ahhhh

good call

idk if wooting has that does it?

[visual sonnet]

im pretty sure its a standard, no?

[visual sonnet]

yeah thought so

where do i screw it in

[cold bloom]

one sec

[visual sonnet]

oh wait it’s upside down

[cold bloom]

ill show you

[visual sonnet]

what the frick

[visual sonnet]

okay thank you

now to package this back up again

[harsh dove]

no

[cold bloom]

sorry its kinda thin

[visual sonnet]

doesnt hurt leaving it open

[cold bloom]

but where I circled in red

screw in there

[fluid ravine]

oh shi a v1

[visual sonnet]

thank you

sorry the picture is upside down

[cold bloom]

all good lmao

[visual sonnet]

yah, got it for $60 USD with 1-2 day shipping

[fluid ravine]

oh double youuuu

nice nice

[visual sonnet]

and closest one to the port is the one i tight in a little more right?

[fluid ravine]

it was 80 sumthing in kbdfans iirc

being on sale

[cold bloom]

yeah bottom right on ur photo

[cold bloom]

the one bottom right that's in a bit

you can see the usb port cutout part next to it

[visual sonnet]

i used my finger to write, do not judge LMAO

[cold bloom]

yup

you got it

[visual sonnet]

easy

okay this is less complicated

[cold bloom]

yeah it's not too bad

should take a few mins

[visual sonnet]

i also got the wooting video to help

they use the same case right?

[cold bloom]

yup

might be the redux

but its the same idea overall

same standoffs

[visual sonnet]

nah they use the OG

[cold bloom]

ahh okay

dope

[visual sonnet]

when should i change the keycaps

[cold bloom]

up to you

might be easier to take it out of the old case, take the keycaps off, screw it into the new one

then put keycaps on

[visual sonnet]

im thinking of removing all the keycaps first, then do the case swap, and put the new ones on

[cold bloom]

yeah that works

[visual sonnet]

i feel if its not secured down into a case, im gonna break something

[cold bloom]

nah ur good

just leave it on a desk or something

[peak smelt]

almost done with my build ;) ⚫️⚪️
just thought i'd share my first custom kb

[cold bloom]

ehh another tofu enjoyer

nice build

[knotty iron]

newer batch of 60HE+ kbs!

[peak smelt]

is that bad hahah

[peak smelt]

thanks

[knotty iron]

i could tell becayse of the keycap switch puller

[cold bloom]

hahahaha no we've just been talking about it for a minute here

[peak smelt]

oh thats fair, i kept some of the stock pbt keycaps, because the ones in the set i ordered didnt have specific ones i was looking for

[cold bloom]

this is mine rn

same case i think

[visual sonnet]

@cold bloom gonna get creative here, but is it okay if when i align the port with the hole on the board i attach a usb-c cable (not connected to anything) to ensure it works and just leave it like that until i finish screwing?

[cold bloom]

here's how she sounds rn

[cold bloom]

sure why not

[peak smelt]

tofu redux w/brass bar
tape mod (3 layers)
gateron jades
stock foam
kda keycaps i found on amazon

[peak smelt]

sounds heavenly

[cold bloom]

ty

[peak smelt]

i love the design too

of course

[cold bloom]

ty ty

[peak smelt]

the amazon keycaps i got are surprisingly high quality. i still wanna do stuff like mod the stabilizers and such but yeah

[peak smelt]

of course :))

[peak smelt]

thats one other way you could go about, yeah

[peak smelt]

sound test for anyone whos interested

[cold bloom]

not bad

[peak smelt]

ty, but could be better imo? even though i'm not really chasing sound all that much though but still

i wanna add 60 gram switches to my jades because i liked the other lekker springs

[cold bloom]

fair, yeah you could maybe tune the stabs a bit but that can be a bit of a goose hunt lmao

I am using my l60 springs and stems

I love it

in my jades

[peak smelt]

yeah which is why its daunting to me, i won't dwell on it too much though

[cold bloom]

easiest thing to do to them is a bit of dielectric grease

I have a cheap tube I got and you can just dip the ends of the wires into it

[peak smelt]

i'm honestly thinking about reusing the lekker springs in the switches that came with my wooting right out of the box, i just want to get some lube just incase though

[peak smelt]

true, i thought about doing that

[cold bloom]

yeah that's what I did, I love a heavier spring personally

[peak smelt]

i see, would i need to lube the springs you think or?

and me too

i swapped springs on my spacebar and i was like "oh my god i NEED to order 60g springs"

it just felt so right lmao

[cold bloom]

I agree I love it rn for typing and gaming personally

and if you're gonna open it you may as well lube the springs

it should help the top out sound a bit cause HE springs are so long they usually have a louder top out when they bounce back up after a keystroke

[peak smelt]

i figured, thanks for the advice :)
ill see what i can do

and yeah, it makes practicing touch typing a little bit easier too lol

like i said ill see what i can do

[cold bloom]

for sure

[fluid ravine]

^^

so so so like

yey or nay

:D

[cold bloom]

[fluid ravine]

lol

want to fill in the cavity without buying smth

was looking for left over neoprene foam but i think my dad threw it away

[cold bloom]

ahh I see lmao

[fluid ravine]

found this piece of wood laying around

but its a bit fat

[peak smelt]

the wooting has 62 switches in total right?

just to make sure

[fluid ravine]

idk how to cut wood so ima ask tmr

[fluid ravine]

61 ANSI

[cold bloom]

yeah 61

[peak smelt]

close enough lol, thanks

[fluid ravine]

62 for iso iirc

[peak smelt]

i have ansi so :P

[fluid ravine]

61 then

ah yes
wood

made it more dense

[peak smelt]

i have 59 lekker switches hmm

i can get by

[peak smelt]

WOOD??

[fluid ravine]

Yup

[peak smelt]

i have enough, nvm

[peak smelt]

interesting to say the least

[fluid ravine]

Yea
Usually we wood either buy brass weight, foam, or even wheel weights to put in the cavity. But didn't want to spend any money nor do I have spare foam but I did find a stick of wood on the floor that could fit the cavity if it was cut.

I was just sanding it down for it to fit, gonna ask my dad to cut it in the morning

[peak smelt]

i see

i'd love to hear a sound test when possible

:P

[paper bloom]

You can try cardboard as well

As a foam

LOL

[peak smelt]

does taper medical tape work ok with the holee mod

urgent question

[paper bloom]

Shld work but idk

You gotta give it a try

IF not dont

[peak smelt]

true

ill try

cos there was cloth then paper tape and im like hmm

but ill order paper medical tape anyways

[paper bloom]

Yea sure

[peak smelt]

you get the point

[paper bloom]

Yes

https://www.play-keyboard.store/collections/cases/products/cora-60-coated-aluminum-keyboard-case

^Anyone used this case b4 and does it fit?

[old swallow]

In the #🪛│modding_faq theres a notion page with case compatibility

Just go all the way to the top to find it fastest

[paper bloom]

It isnt theree

Thats why im asking

[peak smelt]

i wonder how many mods i can do to my tofu wooting all at once..

[old swallow]

Oh right, fair enough.

It looks like it would be, it has the same mounting points and usb hole. But i cant say for sure

[old swallow]

Yes

[peak smelt]

what about

realistically

im talking about the whole nine yards

like everything all at once, realistically

[old swallow]

Euhm, well theres plenty of options. But the biggest factors are usually plate/switches/keycaps. And other mods are more preference

[peak smelt]

yeah

i was thinking about getting a polycarb plate

[old swallow]

I like the pc plate. Makes it more "thoccy"

Then i would probably get Magnetic Jades or NEO Lavender switches

[peak smelt]

heres what i have on my kb at the moment

[peak smelt]

yeah i have jades myself lol

[old swallow]

Oh haha yep

[peak smelt]

like i wanna max out my kb i guess

even though im not an enthusiast

[prime orbit]

Jades don’t have any issues with stability in the case and performance?

I heard something about them

[old swallow]

Keycaps is mostly depending on what looks good to you, and a bit feel/sound

[peak smelt]

yeah

[peak smelt]

nope

[old swallow]

No, they are fine. Only thing is that they are shorter travel then lekkers. So stabs might have issues. But most should be fine

[peak smelt]

your stabilizers will offset with extreme force but thats it

but thats only if youre actually trying to apply extreme force

i havent had any problems myself

[prime orbit]

Sorry I’m really new I’m not sure what the issue is concerning stabs? Like does that mean the actuation point is like not calibrated right?

[peak smelt]

rattling

and such

[old swallow]

No, so stocks stabs can move down 4mm. Jades move down 3.5mm. So if you push on one side of the keycap, then it becomes a bit.. tilted i guess

[prime orbit]

Ohhh

[old swallow]

But, its not really an issue.

[prime orbit]

So just like press in the middle lol

[peak smelt]

^ if only you're intentionally trying to press hardly

:))

[old swallow]

Yeah. I havent noticed anything really. Even when pushing from towards the side

[peak smelt]

yeah same

[peak smelt]

i plan to holee mod and tune my stabs, add heavier springs to my jades, pc plate, ect

possibly even lube the jades a tad bit more

[prime orbit]

So like jades

They considered the best

Cuz I was just gonna get the v45

[peak smelt]

most will say, yeah

but it all comes down to personal preference obv

[prime orbit]

My worst nightmare

Performance is the same across the board right?

[peak smelt]

should be

with the stock steel plating

[prime orbit]

That was another thing

[peak smelt]

hmm?

[prime orbit]

The PC plate from wooting

The black one

Is what I was going to get

But then I saw like carbon fiber?

Or FR4

Which one should I get

[peak smelt]

well i have a video that you can watch for u to decide

[peak smelt]

i mean well it depends on the type of sound you're going for

[prime orbit]

Does the video have all of them? Cuz sound is one thing I don’t really care for tbh

[peak smelt]

https://youtu.be/4bvLyb2HhrU?si=UMgTQYt_eniRTVvy&t=361

[prime orbit]

Ofc I don’t want IT to sound horrible

[peak smelt]

badseedtech covers over all of the aftermarket plates

from what ive seen

[prime orbit]

Ok cool

The white vs the black is just the color right?

Exactly the same to

Tho

[peak smelt]

send a pic

[prime orbit]

I literally didn’t hear a difference at all 💀💀

[peak smelt]

fr4 and carbon fiber arent the same but they have similar sound profiles imo

[peak smelt]

lmao

[prime orbit]

These are the same right?

Just the color is different

[marsh saffron]

yes just different color

black looks way better 🤷

[prime orbit]

And the module comes with a white one?

[marsh saffron]

yes

[prime orbit]

OK yeah I didn’t hear a difference so imma get black to match my theme

How does the normal cable look?

I can’t find a pic of it

[peak smelt]

^

[marsh saffron]

its like a striped black and yellow

[peak smelt]

oh my bad yeah lol i havent slept yet

yeah its the same

the white one makes the rgb stronger while the black one dulls it out a bit more than usual

[prime orbit]

And the cable they sell is like the best for aftermarket cables I’m guessing

[peak smelt]

from what ive seen

[prime orbit]

Rgb and me don’t get along

I try to stay away from it and if there is rgb I just set it to write

[marsh saffron]

its a high quality cable that is guaranteed to work with tachyon at 100% brightness

[prime orbit]

White

[prime orbit]

Perfect

I’ll probably use tachyon all the time

Considering I’m going for straight performance

[marsh saffron]

i only use it for my apex profile

[peak smelt]

i thought u couldnt use tachyon??

[marsh saffron]

my apex superglide dks needs tachyon to be properly consistent

[peak smelt]

thats good to know lmao

[prime orbit]

So then the v45 will be fine right? I don’t need the jades

[peak smelt]

REALLLLL

i do the same thign

thing

[marsh saffron]

wootings coiled it guaranteed to work with tachyon at max brightness

other cables can work if they arent too long and are high quality

[peak smelt]

ohh i see

noted

[marsh saffron]

im just gonna get wootings white coiled cable

[prime orbit]

Imma get the black one

[peak smelt]

i just never really looked into the cables itself

[peak smelt]

me too in the near future

[marsh saffron]

the cable is last on my list

switches and keycaps first

cable eventually

[peak smelt]

what do u have in mind?

[marsh saffron]

neo lavenders and pbtfans BoW

[prime orbit]

Silicon vs foam?

[peak smelt]

the plates are probs gonna be first

me personally idk

[marsh saffron]

i use silicone

ive already got the black plate

[peak smelt]

how much do all of your kbs cost

random question

[marsh saffron]

mines not even done and its cost me 500+ cad

[prime orbit]

Is the difference just the sound?

[peak smelt]

mines like 475 usd lol

[peak smelt]

and feel

iirc

[prime orbit]

How so with the feel?

Softer?

[marsh saffron]

60he was 300 cad, tofu ended up costing me 200 cad, i got wootings white keycaps with black pc plate which another like 80$

not really gonna count lube in the cost

[peak smelt]

i think so, dont quote me on it though

[peak smelt]

i see,

[marsh saffron]

after switches, keycaps, and cable itll cost me around 700-800 cad maybe..........

[peak smelt]

let me gather my prices one sec

[prime orbit]

I keep seeing a burger mount? Do I need to do this if I’m getting the module?

[peak smelt]

it does nothing lol

in my own opinion though

[prime orbit]

OK cool

[marsh saffron]

i have mine friction mounted

[prime orbit]

Are the drop ones worth the extra amount?

[paper bloom]

Its a GH60 compatible

So i am kinda unsure

[marsh saffron]

i mean they definitely will be nicer, worth it i cant quite say

[paper bloom]

Depends

[prime orbit]

Also how long yall think it’ll take to get used to no English keycaps 😭😭

[marsh saffron]

pbtfans BoW is like my limit for what id spend on keycaps, thankfully its exactly what i want

[peak smelt]

tofu redux w/brass bar along side the jades were about $175, my wooting60he+ with the wrist rest costed about $205, tape mod was $7, amazon keycaps were $20

[prime orbit]

What would it depend on?

[marsh saffron]

i want to try polyfill

[prime orbit]

Any other mods I should do?

[marsh saffron]

you could do friction mount

[prime orbit]

How much would that cost

[marsh saffron]

like 10$

instead of screwing your keyboard in you use an oring to hold it in

[peak smelt]

i wanna do that

but i already have a tape mod installed with the stock sound dampening foam

[prime orbit]

That sounds like I’ll break something 💀

[marsh saffron]

i think if you have screw in stabs you need a thinner oring

[marsh saffron]

its uh, odd to take out

[marsh saffron]

i use tofu foam, dont have tape mod anymore though i got rid of mine

although it worked fine with friction mount

[peak smelt]

ah

idk why i tape modded mine in the first place

ngl

[marsh saffron]

im indifferent about it

idk if i like it or not

[peak smelt]

felt

i dont really care about sound although i want my keyboard to sound great either way

[marsh saffron]

im not chasing a sound but im just trying different things to see what i like

[peak smelt]

ME TOO

me too*

[marsh saffron]

cant wait to pickup lavenders

[peak smelt]

?

hm?

what are thos

[paper bloom]

The cost and quality

Wootings keycaps are good while the ones from Drop are also good

So it depends if you wanna buy it or not

[peak smelt]

open to ideas

[prime orbit]

Ah gotcha

[peak smelt]

just a fun and silly rough draft

[peak smelt]

if everything was all finished and added together

my true endgame; wooting 60he+

case:

• black tofu60 redux with internal brass weight bar
• tape mod (3 layers)
• stock sound dampening foam
• black polycarbonate pcb plate with silicone padding

?; built mainly for performance and durability, but acoustics are a bonus

keycaps:

• amazon xda keycaps (guffercty)

?; for looks

switches:

• gateron jades swapped with 60g springs
• lubed with 205g0

?; smoother sound and tactility

stock stabilizers;

• holee mod (this includes supplied needed for said mod)

?; more consistent sound

cable:

• wooting detachable usb-c coiled/straight cable set

?; purely for aesthetics, and some functionality (tachyon mode & durability)

yes i did use chatgpt for some of this cry about it

[prime orbit]

lol

www

[peak smelt]

lollll

[peak smelt]

my true endgame

like i want nothing else lmao

[vivid jasper]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804784055633.html
has anyone tried it yet?

[dapper kernel]

Gasket mount > all

[paper bloom]

Dont do spring swap

Ur bottoming out might be 70g

Just do a hand lube ur good to go

Or go for a 45 gram one

[peak smelt]

oh? :9

:(

[peak smelt]

wdym

[paper bloom]

Ur running jades

The initial force when u press the oey is 37grams

Key*

And jades are running long pole springs

The bottoming out is when ur fully down

Takes u 50 grams ish

If u upgrade it to a 60gram spring u cld be bottoming out at 70 to 75

Id recommend u keep the spring as it is and just run a hand lube and switch film if u want

If not wait for the lekker v2

[paper bloom]

U dont gotta do a holee mod, but change out the stabs. But thats up to u

[peak smelt]

i see

[peak smelt]

yeah ill do that

thanks for the advice

[paper bloom]

But be advised that ur stabs are

Stanfard not long pole

Standard>

Run a stem spacer or a O ring

To ensure proper fitting

The required ones that the stabs might be required

[paper bloom]

U can run a burger mount mod

[peak smelt]

i can? i thought those hardly do anything

[paper bloom]

I got a tofu with a steel plate and a swag keys knight stabs with burger mount

Stock lube besides the stabilizers

But i fucked my stabilizers a bit cuz i overlubed it

So its mushy as shit

[peak smelt]

oof

[paper bloom]

In the end i fixed it

But it isnt enough fixing

So i dont rlly care anymore

But be aware of the burgermount placements

And make sure ur threads are actually in the case standoff screws itself

[paper bloom]

2 out of 4 or 5 are fucked

Esp the side cuz i missed the hole by 2mm

And i chipped the inner paint off

And u will need a m2x5 or a m2x6

[peak smelt]

i see

i mean if you'd like to correct the list for me you can lol

since all of the details are just scattered

[paper bloom]

Na

Id rather u jus go with what u feels best

[peak smelt]

true

[paper bloom]

Cuz i used to run the steel brass then i said fuck it

And ran without it rn just with the foam and thats it

My case stand off exterior is fucked cuz of the mis screws

So if i keep going at it, my case wld just be fucked and itd just be place there and being held by a usb cable

LMAO

[peak smelt]

LOLLL

damn 😭

[peak smelt]

i mean the options u gave me feel best lol

its cool tho fr

[paper bloom]

Ye

[peak smelt]

im still confused on the s

spring swap tho

[paper bloom]

Ok uhh

I will explain tmr

Or someone else will

I gtg rest

[robust briar]

Hello hello. Can I swap out just a couple switches for Jade switches to try them out. Or do I have to swap all of them

[polar girder]

Yes

Couple is fine

Although the smaller travel might change things

[harsh dove]

@peak smelt

Also #🪛│modding_faq

More mods does not always = better

Less is more

[peak smelt]

yeah, i had a hunch

[harsh dove]

Personally, I’d just recommend starting with a couple cheap mods, since I assume you wanna just try things out and test stuff for yourself

[peak smelt]

yeeha

yeah*

[harsh dove]

The friction mount or gummy mount is a cheap alternative to mount your board in a different way and get a different sound profile that a lot of people seem to like

[peak smelt]

ill look into it

[harsh dove]

The #🪛│modding_faq covers a lot of the mods, Wooting and BadSeedTech have some good videos on YouTube as well

Just don’t jump head first into the rabbit hole lol, a lot of money can be wasted

[peak smelt]

😭

thanks for the advice

[harsh dove]

lol well I noticed you were wanting to mod your “endgame” keyboard and just didn’t want you to end up doing a hundred mods to your board and not liking it and wasting money

So just take it slow is all , do one mod at a time

See how you like it

[peak smelt]

keyword" endgame" yeah lol

[harsh dove]

Haha yeah

[peak smelt]

i got too carried away

[harsh dove]

Good luck finding your endgame brother

[peak smelt]

thanks mate

[harsh dove]

It’s a quest for us all

lol

[peak smelt]

lol

[peak smelt]

(says this dispite being my 3rd keyboard but my first custom one lmfao)

[peak smelt]

dont listen to this idiot

[vivid jasper]

there may be a Jade Mini dual-rail for wooting soon.but I don't know anything about that right now.

[harsh dove]

https://www.gateron.cn/product/321.html

We were talking about them about a month ago, there’s going to be a South Pole and North Pole variant

I also have some other HE switches on the way to test

[vivid jasper]

Thank you. Which ones?

[polar girder]

I think I just need a frog mini, aluminum keycaps and a new silent HE switch then I’ll be pretty endgame

[harsh dove]

👀

Top Secret Government Information

[vivid jasper]

😭

[polar girder]

$350 for the case. $350 for the keycaps

🤢

[vivid jasper]

silent gateron huh?

[polar girder]

at some point hopefully

[harsh dove]

I have Kailhs new HE switches on the way and Backspace x Gateron collab “Black Jades” which have a dual stage spring

[polar girder]

I am curious how that dual stage spring ends up feeling

That’s new to me

[vivid jasper]

raesha and gamakay have already released their silent swithes

[polar girder]

Where

[vivid jasper]

backspace collaboration is basically just recolored isn't it?

[harsh dove]

Most likely as far as I'm aware but uses a new spring design

which is just a dual stage spring

the WS Dashes are a literal recolor with no design changes

Just a Lilac Purple Stem instead of white

[vivid jasper]

Well, it's not that interesting. I find kailh more interesting.

[harsh dove]

Yeah

It'll most likely sound the same

just feel different

The kailh switches are Full POM Housing so thats interesting

[vivid jasper]

true

[harsh dove]

Probably be scratchy like Kailh Creams

and they don't appear to have any feet/legs

and open bottom housing

[vivid jasper]

One of the keydous owners already wrote that kailh is really scratchy

[harsh dove]

Ah okay

Hopefully these have a good scratch

[vivid jasper]

maybe some lube can fix it.

[harsh dove]

Yeah

But I don't mind it if its a good scratch

[dapper kernel]

why isnt gateron releaseing the mini jade N

[harsh dove]

They probably will these week tbh lol or soon

[dapper kernel]

hopefully its better than jades

and doesnt create more issue

[polar girder]

Fk me

I missed out on two frog mini’s

I suck

They sold for like $260 and $270 usd too

RIP

If anyone sees a WK black frog mini for sale lmk

[fluid ravine]

Morning! Woke up and immediately went to doing this

FK

[harsh dove]

Woodboard

[polar girder]

Should’ve got more sleep before you went back at it

[split dagger]

I have a offer if you give me a wooting I give you a donut

Deal?

[old swallow]

what will be the difference between south pole and north pole? because HE switches can be flipped upside down, wouldnt it just be the same? or is this to do with the magnets or something?

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/barney-no-himym-barney-smile-no-hm-no-barney-gif-26652793

[fluid ravine]

I'm learning

[fluid ravine]

I don't like donuts

[sweet oak]

Woke up and decided to make a creature vibes

[fluid ravine]

Too much sugar for me

[harsh dove]

North Pole and South Pole Magnets, you would have to take the magnet out and flip it, not the switch

Not North and South Facing

Different things

[old swallow]

right yea yea, had me confuzled for a bit

[harsh dove]

No worries

I'm hoping these Kailhs will be good

[old swallow]

what kailhs?

[harsh dove]

Kailh Source Series

Mistral and Flame Switches

Mistral is North pole

so hopefully comaptible with Wooting

[old swallow]

oh, looks interesting

[polar girder]

Bruh I’m so pissed I missed 2 black wk frog mini both under $300

Time to cry myself to sleep

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/moment-of-silence-pay-respect-rip-rest-in-peace-bow-gif-15963301

[polar girder]

They’re hard to find too

[old swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress2-pay-respects-press-f-gif-14764178

[polar girder]

[brazen sparrow]

🫡

Im just now checking all the computex content, any cool keyboard stuff I should be directed towards?

[fluid ravine]

Btw any fix to this?

[harsh dove]

If you scratched the coating off, not really

White sharpie lol

[brazen sparrow]

scratch all the coating off and re paint

[polar girder]

60HE in the plastic case isn’t so bad I guess

[fluid ravine]

Indeed

[polar girder]

I’m so over friction mount tho. Damn backspace just doesn’t work lol

[fluid ravine]

Skiilll issuuuu

[polar girder]

Just need to swap stabs

Or screw it in

[fluid ravine]

Yurrrr

[polar girder]

You beast

I always had faith

Anyone selling a black frog mini?

[fluid ravine]

As much as I don't care
I mightve miss calculated or chose the wrong thickness

Oh well (･.･ﾉ

[brazen sparrow]

Could always cut the foam to go around the wood

[fluid ravine]

I use polyfill

But yeah that's why I didn't care much abt it

[little glen]

Just sand it down

[fluid ravine]

I've been lel

[elfin garnet]

friction mount just sounds like a big mess. Get the frog and enjoy. It's amazing

[harsh dove]

I don't have issues with my friction mount personally

[fluid ravine]

Fkkkkkk
This actually works so well

[fluid ravine]

Same same

I'll send a vid comparison later

Eee

B4 and afta

[uneven cradle]

Where top mount at

[fluid ravine]

What's that (☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞ (Joke)

[polar girder]

FR

[polar girder]

I just refuse to swap my stabs

It was working fine until I started swapping stuff around now it’s not so great lol

[polar girder]

I just need black tho ☠️

[harsh dove]

Plate Mount or?

[polar girder]

I have module stock screw ins

Rn

I have both plate mount and clip-ins T home

Figured I’d wait to go plate mount until I get frog

[harsh dove]

and you just have it wrapped around the back stab right?

[polar girder]

Yeah it keeps sneaking in there

And keycap doesn’t come back. Switch works fine so I just took the keycap off for now

😅

[harsh dove]

That's so odd, I've never had mine get up under there like that

and obvs your plate is screwed down all the way?

[polar girder]

Yes

[harsh dove]

Tell the O ring to stop it

[harsh dove]

I've probably asked you before you but using S-size or M-size O ring?

[normal schooner]

pssst

wanna buy some metal case

[harsh dove]

What case

[polar girder]

I have both

[harsh dove]

Same issue with both?

[polar girder]

Is that an question or a statement lol

[polar girder]

Yes

[quiet bay]

when the math didn't math right

[polar girder]

Yo anyone selling frog mini and metal keyboards aluminum keycaps both black please. I’ll do anything frfr

Lolol ok I’m done

[quiet bay]

lmao

isnt there a company that makes metal keycaps?

[elfin garnet]

spray paint the silver one lol 😄

[uneven cradle]

What's wrong with good old plastic

[fluid ravine]

bad oring >:(

[polar girder]

Yeah there’s a couple. There’s one that I really want but they’re like all backed up and not taking orders for the foreseeable future

[polar girder]

Bruh

I could never

There’s a green one that’s pretty dark that I’m tempted by but nahhh

[elfin garnet]

Imma get a professional painter to do it whenever GMK Cosmos is out

[cold bloom]

mine kinda does this too but I have plate mount stabs, it kinda forces the right side out a bit and made it crooked without any plate foam

[fluid ravine]

weird...

[fluid ravine]

May I see a pic?

Cus I was thinking about it but it might be the standoff you're talking about? but I may be wrong in your situation

[cold bloom]

I don’t have a pic rn cause I put the plate foam back and it mostly fixed it

[fluid ravine]

Someone did this test as well i forgot who
@median spade was it you?

[median spade]

Yeee

[fluid ravine]

this shi fire

[untold wigeon]

Hey guys are the dashes and jades identical besides the color

[fluid ravine]

yes

exact same just recolored

[untold wigeon]

Is the sound and feel that much different compared to the stock l60’s

[fluid ravine]

yes

its different

need me to elaborate or nah

[untold wigeon]

Yes pleas

It’s just the factory lubing on the l60’s that came with my wooting is really inconsistent

[fluid ravine]

"Jades are a long pole sounding switch which leans to the clacker side due to their travel distance being cut off to 3.5mm from the closed bottom housing. Lekkers (and V2), KS20, KS20u, and Raptors however are on the lower or neutral pitch end (or which some of yall call "thock"), so they would sound the same except the KS20u having a cleaner top out sound from the dual rail system.

Since the KS20U and Jades/Dashes have an improved stem tolerance (stem wobble), they tend to have a little to no rattle when the stem makes contact with the top housing. Most users like me usually would have problems with the mold design of the lekkers as the stem would fit too loose causing it to have a chattery sound. But now after time flies, new HE switches are coming out and being improve when talking about these molds. So when you're considering a better feel (and possibly sound when affected) KS20U, Jades/Dashes (KS20T), and Lekker V2 currently have the improved stem tolerance mold. "

Typed this like a month ago

[pure magnet]

350 for keycaps? 😵‍💫

Doom is back

[grizzled path]

yeah man that looked cool

[pure magnet]

I loved the story arch of it actually a lot

[fluid ravine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DVjEHn2hlc the hell

[pure magnet]

I mean it is possible

But probably not that feasible for HE 😂

[errant meadow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/kCy9ZxvXUSo?si=vYKj46FKKCOS7omR

Anyone know wat case is this

[uneven cradle]

Man youtube comments are very funny

[marsh saffron]

Was gonna say the same thing

The absolute brain rot in that comment section gave me a migraine

Actual spergs

😭

[lyric sandal]

hello, new to custom keyboards in general. have a basic wooting 60he with L60's and was planning on buying a tofu60 redux. Any easy mods you guys would recommend?

im admittedly not trying to go crazy with lubing every switch, just some easy mods that make a decent difference.

[marsh saffron]

Switches and PC plate

[lyric sandal]

the pc plate from wooting?

[marsh saffron]

Yeah

Id go with the black one because it looks better

Here's my redux build with black PC plate

[fluid ravine]

wtf.. lmao--

[lyric sandal]

dang, very clean!

What does the pc plate do to the sound profile in the redux?

[marsh saffron]

It's not as pingy

This might be placebo but the bottom out doesn't feel quite as hard either

[lyric sandal]

Sounds good. You also mentioned switches?

[marsh saffron]

Yeah I would go with gateron jades or neo lavenders

Personally I'm gonna be picking up lavenders

Jades are more of a clacky switch and lavenders from how they were described are like jades but poppier

Haven't heard either in person yet

[lyric sandal]

I see, alright cool. Thanks for giving me a direction to start looking! 😎

btw, hows that beastx? been eyeballing one recently but heard mixed things.

mainly around battery life

[marsh saffron]

Love mine, it's the mini version

[sweet oak]

I have the fabulous beasts version, very cool mouse

[marsh saffron]

Very very solid mouse, it's basically what the ulx should've been

[marsh saffron]

This issue was fixed

My bxm battery on 2k lasts me a little over a week usually

Sometimes 2

[pure magnet]

How much is it's latency? Below 300 microseconds?

[sweet oak]

Yeah similar here with fabulous beasts

[marsh saffron]

It's basically on par with ulx

[lyric sandal]

Daamn, okay. yall are persuading me hard now. lol That battery life was my biggest worry.

[marsh saffron]

Yeah that was an issue with og beastx but got fixed pretty quick

[sweet oak]

Its only for the OG model, the mini, max, and new medium refresh all have improved battery

[lyric sandal]

Nice!

[lyric sandal]

What do you like about the beastx that you feel was lacking in the ULX?

[marsh saffron]

Quality control, build quality, an actually good material...

It's not 190 USD

It's not finalmouse

Basically everything that isn't the hardware or shape

[sweet oak]

I like the goodies mine came with

[marsh saffron]

Beastx software sucks though

But you really only open it to change dpi/polling if you do that often

It doesn't run in the background or anything

[lyric sandal]

More people need to copy wooting and their browser based interface for software

its so good

[lyric sandal]

Thanks for the info! @sweet oak @marsh saffron Ill probably end up picking one up cause of you guys lol

[marsh saffron]

I still find it so funny ulx 1k has better click latency

Than on higher polling

[lyric sandal]

that chart is in microseconds... definitely not gonna feel a difference between most of those at all

[pure magnet]

Yup, that's why I don't get mad about polling

[pure magnet]

Yup, hardly gonna tell much below 1 ms

I'd say, actually below 0.7 is hard to tell

[marsh saffron]

I can't speak for the op1/m2k but every other mouse there will feel exactly the same click latency wise

The difference you would feel would be how they implement the actual click physically

Op18k has a really cool way of doing their mech switch that makes it crazy fast

[lyric sandal]

oh yeah did your guy's beastx come with any grips or extra skates? What comes in the box in terms of those goodies?

[marsh saffron]

Extra skates, grips, and stickers

Both glass and ptfe skates

(glass skates suck though)

[lyric sandal]

nice, and the ptfe skates feel pretty good?

[sweet oak]

mine didnt come with glass skates, i got a magnet however

[lyric sandal]

a magnet? like a fridge magnet?

[sweet oak]

Yeah

[lyric sandal]

siick lol

[prime orbit]

nah not on 8k its 2nd now

[pure magnet]

I mean, even with sensor latency it is negligible, here it's the ULX 4000 Hz vs Superlight 2 2000 Hz, with these top end mice

[loud zephyr]

not mine but you get so much with the fab x collab; baller carrying case. and if you go wlx, make sure to remove the film on the skates https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1186265045227802714/1233041299549196331/wlxxx.jpg?ex=6666fa32&is=6665a8b2&hm=8c2465e389498dea16c00059e6cad2e6c0e97243772321c2d97826e51a0e4a7d&=&format=webp&width=1187&height=668

[prime orbit]

i use the op18k rn the GX speed mode is actually noticeable. its pretty dope

[sweet oak]

Can confirm, mines orange

[loud zephyr]

niice

[pure magnet]

It's weird though that their OP1 is so stellar and their Hall Effect keyboard is an Ali-Express ripoff

[marsh saffron]

They actually tried with the op1

[pure magnet]

I mean how can you go from releasing an original mouse to re-packaging an Ali-Express board in an Alu Case for the same price as the Wooting?

[lyric sandal]

👀 those goodies

[pure magnet]

Nah man, gonna keep it on and realizing it a few years later lol I've actually heard that from Linustechtips, that they tested a mouse with the foil on and found the glides lacking lol

[loud zephyr]

I only noticed mine within a few days that it was feeling muddy

[marsh saffron]

Ltt messes up a tech review part 1874891848

I still find that 1 of 1 copper cooler situation so funny

[pure magnet]

Which? Stopped watching them 2 years ago

The channel reminds me of a clueless random microcenter employee running a YouTube channel

[marsh saffron]

I forget who exactly it was but it was a 1 of 1 custom made cooler that was entirely cncd copper, ltt was supposed to give it back but instead sold it at a charity auction

[pure magnet]

Ohh, that one 😂

It was a prototype

[marsh saffron]

It was their very first prototype yeah

[pure magnet]

Even worse

[marsh saffron]

Ltt dogged on the cooler, and sold it at a charity auction after ignoring their emails to get it back

[pure magnet]

It's like cut and pasting your game with the sourcecode

And giving it to someone

[pure magnet]

Yeah then saying it was a mistake because they apparently have so many employees that it got lost on the way and justifying that it was a mistake that it's ok LOL

1:1 of a narcissist

[marsh saffron]

They literally left them on delivered for months

[pure magnet]

Yeah I dunno, they have a pretty unreflected way of dealing with their business and life

I have no idea why their channel isn't dead

[marsh saffron]

They tried playing the "we grew too big too fast" card, yet this happened AFTER linus was offered 100m+ for lmg

[pure magnet]

Should've taken the money, retire, move to China and seek out a therapist to deal with his delusions

[marsh saffron]

I like ltts videos they can be entertaining, but it's the last place id go for a valuable tech review

[pure magnet]

Yeah but when your content has no value what's the entertainment good for

It's like just watching a marvel movie for the Comedy

[marsh saffron]

Yeah I mostly just watch their videos showing weird tech

[pure magnet]

Yeah I mean, since he doesn't do credible tech videos anymore, his channel became more like the Osbornes with his family?

I still get these stupid recommendations and sometimes see the videos he puts out

But the most hilarious shit was of a YouTuber, similarly clueless, who tested 28+ coolers something on the 13th / 14th Gen Intel CPUs, concluding that the NH-U12A outperformed all the big coolers and didn't even question that

I was actually trying to figure out which cooler to get

When I got the motherboard he's using, I noticed a plastic tubing on the socket lever which he didn't remove when he tested the coolers. Turns out it interfers especially with bigger coolers that face dim side LOL

[marsh saffron]

No fucking way

[pure magnet]

Yup

[marsh saffron]

Every bad tech review makes me all the more appreciative of gamers nexus

[pure magnet]

He kept swapping 3 different NH-15 coolers baffled as to why they perform worse than the NH-U12A

[brazen sparrow]

that-

that has no thermal paste does it?

Or is it the lighting because im really hoping it's the lighting

[pure magnet]

It's from a different point in the video lol

[marsh saffron]

At least it seems they cleaned the paste off each time

[pure magnet]

Yeah he did

[brazen sparrow]

ah okay-

I was hopinh he didn't think he could hot swap coolers LOL

[marsh saffron]

Technically would be a hot swap

[pure magnet]

But yeah, it states in the manual for it to be removed because it can interfere with the performance of a cooler

/ damage it

[marsh saffron]

Such a big thing to miss especially when you are doing a test to show "the best"

[pure magnet]

Yup, I mean I have the NH-U12A on my 14900K, it's an amazing cooler, but it outperforming all the big ones such as the assassin IV is hilarious

Like you should click the moment you realized that all the big coolers, which's heatpipes run horizontally to the socket, are outperformed by smaller ones

Not be like "oh wow, that's curious, I guess that's how it is"

The biggest problem in tech still is the user

Not the product

Or my best friend to whom I gifted my OG Logitech G Pro Wireless and he kept using it with the cable for almost A YEAR

"Michael, what's that small USB for actually? Found it in the box."

[median spade]

U12a is good just expensive and outperformed by many $30-$35 coolers

[pure magnet]

Maybe only the coolermasterz

[median spade]

Cheaper to get a Phantom spirit and throw on some A12x25 for better performance at $50 cheaper

Nah all the thermal right stuff is better

ID cooling and their a620 too

[pure magnet]

I guess so, had heard about their QC issues so I didn't want to take a risk

But you're right, it's too expensive, I got it on a discount though for 85 bucks and it keeps my 14900K stock, limited to 253 Watts below 80 degrees package temp with 100% load

[median spade]

Yeah u12a still awesome

Just not for the full price

[pure magnet]

Yeah not for the 125 bucks

[marsh saffron]

I'm surprised how good the pearless assassin is for how cheap it is

[pure magnet]

But they saw that I've bought bunch of noctuas in the past and sent me a keychain small fan LOL

And some stickers

And a tube with dry NH-2 paste

It had small dry pieces inside it

Nothing can be worse though than the Thermal Grizzly Paste that fucked the cold plate of my previous cooler

Making it look like the moon's surface

[pure magnet]

Yup but I guess the QC can be hit and miss

Which reminds me I still have a TG contact frame that I've never used

[peak smelt]

good afternoon peoples

[pure magnet]

Afternoon

[peak smelt]

can the jades be swapped with 60g springs from the lekkers without any issues

i keep getting mixed answers

[pure magnet]

Do you guys think that connector is still okay? It was accidentally pushed in the wrong way, not with much force but it kind of grated stuff away

Also a little bit of plastic debris got into one of the connector holes

[peak smelt]

what is that specifically

[pure magnet]

It's a front panel USBC motherboard connector

[cedar gate]

Have any of you ever soldered a pcb?

[pure magnet]

Eh yeah plenty, depends on what you want to solder

But not smds

[sterile ridge]

i broke a stabilizer and im mortified

[median spade]

just a buy a new one

[pure magnet]

Lol

Build a new one with toothpicks

Wait

There is actually a toothpick mod

Who knew

[peak smelt]

im swapping out my jade springs with 60g

[paper bloom]

There are a lot of different mods

[restive gulch]

Hey guys really need help

Which 30A gummy o-ring works best for wooting in a tofu redux??

[fluid ravine]

#🪛│modding_faq message

Graveshift Medium O'rings or Cannonkeys Bakeneko60 O'ring

I use the Bakeneko 60 30a O'ring

Wooting 60he and a GH60 Tofu V1 clone

Works great, so does graveshift, just be aware with what stabs you use

[restive gulch]

I went ahead and ordered the Bakeneko 30A one for 60%

Hopefully it works for the reduz

redux

[fluid ravine]

it will work fine
again just worry about the stabilizers
idk which 60he you have but i assume its the + so be aware that you might have trouble with the screw in stabs

clip in and plate mount should work best
esp plate mounts

[restive gulch]

Nah it is not the +

I have plate mounts

[fluid ravine]

oh ok then you're fine

[restive gulch]

I went ahead and got some durock plate mounteds.

[fluid ravine]

anything wrong with your stocks?

[restive gulch]

I typically buy Durocks for all my enthusiast boards because I have had the least problems with them. However, this will be my first time trying their plate mounteds

[fluid ravine]

Oh, its because the stocks are pretty much durocks

unless you're buying other types of durock plate mounts like the v3 or what not

[jaunty pumice]

Got the board almost exactly where I want it but seems like the spacebar has this hallow/high pitched tone??

[fluid ravine]

What configurations?

[jaunty pumice]

FR4 Tofu Redux w/ TofuFoam

[restive gulch]

Sounds like spacebar stabs need more lube

Idk if it's just me but I hear a long of ping and ticking

Also

[jaunty pumice]

On the spacebar or all keys?

[restive gulch]

Space

Also

[jaunty pumice]

Ye it's all kinds of hallow fucky

[restive gulch]

You could try spacebar foam too

I think I saw some on KBD fans

[jaunty pumice]

Was thinking tapemod just for the bar maybe IDK

But ye something like that

[fluid ravine]

It could be just the case foam imo

[jaunty pumice]

You think it could be the lube?

[restive gulch]

Which foam do you use?

[jaunty pumice]

The one that came with the tofu

[fluid ravine]

lube has to do with rattle and ticks

[restive gulch]

I think the wooting foam might even be better

The stock wooting foam

[fluid ravine]

but for hollowness it could be the spacebar keycap and case foam

[fluid ravine]

polyfill

[restive gulch]

Would it be possible to get a link?

[fluid ravine]

sure

[jaunty pumice]

It's odd that it would be only w/ the spacebar no?*

[fluid ravine]

https://www.amazon.com/Fairfield-Polyester-Decorations-Machine-Washable-Waterfall/dp/B00TH2E3PA?th=1

smth like this

[jaunty pumice]

Like I could also jam the stabs with krylox or w/e

[restive gulch]

You got a sound test?

[fluid ravine]

yeah it could, but in my experience it also could be the tray mounting point

[jaunty pumice]

Have some sitting beside me

[fluid ravine]

like how far you screw it in

[jaunty pumice]

They're pretty tightly in there

[fluid ravine]

i dont have a link to my threads

[fluid ravine]

try unscrewing it a bit

and see how it is

cus the pcb mounting point is directly on the standoff

[jaunty pumice]

kk so

screw, foam swap, krylox, tapemod probs

[restive gulch]

How do you know how much polyfill to put in?

[fluid ravine]

#🪛│modding_faq message "switch tape mod"

thats one of my threads

[fluid ravine]

like enough to where you dont have to forcefully push in the pcb and compress it

if you compress it then it will over heat

[restive gulch]

Did you tape mod it?

[fluid ravine]

I'm sorry?

Like my board?

[restive gulch]

Oh wow that's a lot

[restive gulch]

Ye

[fluid ravine]

not anymore

but in most of my sound tests yeah

i have a configuration description all the way at the top

[fluid ravine]

eh not really

like it is but isnt

lol

[fluid ravine]

#1173784544529363034 message

My board currently sounds nothing like those anymore

[restive gulch]

So let me ask you then

Why did you go polyfill over other foams?

[fluid ravine]

The reason why I chose polyfill is mostly for the bouncy feel for my friction mount, it still does a great job of filling the hollowness of my board and all that but generally the feel. Other foam like the wooting foam works great honestly, it's a really dense foam that gives the board a little pop! into the sound acoustic, which is also great for filling in the hollowness for how dense it is.

This is also what i meant why i chose it for feel, this is it with tray mount.

[restive gulch]

Ohh okay I see.

[fluid ravine]

Tray mount would generally have stiff typing feel, but with polyfill and a loose screw rotation you can get bounce.

[restive gulch]

I’m going gummy mount

[fluid ravine]

i have a video for gummy mount as well but somewhere...

[restive gulch]

Wouldn’t gummy mount defeat the entire purpose of the reason why you go poly?

[fluid ravine]

im sorry? how so

[restive gulch]

Well because if you go tray mount, the poly makes sense if your reasoning is to do it for a bouncier feel but for gummy mount, wouldn't the poly contribute less to the bounciness?

[fluid ravine]

Polyfill is actually not stiff, think of it as a pillow, you push down on the pillow and it returns to how it was before.

Since friction mount doesn't actually have any mounting points it's pretty much free moving

the oring is just there to keep the module from falling out of the case

[restive gulch]

I guess the reason I ask is because I am going gummy mount and Idk whther to stick with case foam or go for poly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_6bHaY7QfQ

This sound test for a wooting is the best I have heard

I want to aim for something like this

[fluid ravine]

Description:

Keyboard: 60He in Freebird60
Plate: POM from HypeKeyboards
Sound dampening: Silicone plate insert, and silicone insert that comes with the Freebird60
Mounting: Mounted in friction fit using a 30a oring
Switches: Gateron Magnetic Jade switches (lubed with 205g0, and spring swapped to 60g springs from Lekker 60s)
Lube: 205g0
Stabilizers: TX AP Plate Mount Stabs
Keycaps: Heavily Shined GMK WoB

[restive gulch]

Yes

Doesn't Redux also come with a silicon insert?

[polar girder]

Plate insert, no

[restive gulch]

No i mean case foam

[fluid ravine]

It doesnt have a silicone case "foam"

[restive gulch]

Silicon

Ye

[polar girder]

lol

Just a thin case foam for redux

[restive gulch]

I am going with the redux because of the color options, do you think i need to go with freebird to achieve a similar sound?\

I already ordered the POM plate for wooting

[polar girder]

Yo do TX AP plate mount fit in Wooting PC plate?

[fluid ravine]

yeah

i have em

[polar girder]

Ok cool yeah I might swap

[fluid ravine]

kk

[fluid ravine]

remember to buy plate standoffs

[fluid ravine]

Nah

you can pretty much do the same

[restive gulch]

How so?

[fluid ravine]

I mean they both are aluminum cases

pretty similar id say

[restive gulch]

I am getting the gummy o-ring, jades, POM plate

[fluid ravine]

yea

[restive gulch]

Although I likely will not get a silicon plate insert

The one with my wooting I will probably just keep using

[fluid ravine]

well you can subsitute the case foam if you want to

[restive gulch]

What should I use?

[fluid ravine]

the silicone pad you have to cut

if you need a pic as a guidline on where to cut i gotchu

[restive gulch]

Yes please.

[fluid ravine]

any choice you like

ill send it to your dms

[restive gulch]

Where do I get the silicon pad though

[fluid ravine]

I favorite polyfill
as you can tell lol

[fluid ravine]

oh wait...

[restive gulch]

Yes LOL

[fluid ravine]

they come with the PC plate

LMAO

i forgor

[restive gulch]

Bruh

[fluid ravine]

you have the 60he

like me :D

[restive gulch]

Yep

I mean

What would you advise if I am going for a sound like that?

[fluid ravine]

oh yeah sure, you can actually do a similar thing with a few other configs

it doesnt have to be exactly like that

[restive gulch]

Right

Do you have any recommendations

?

[fluid ravine]

Uh yeah sure

[peak smelt]

ok so i need someones unbiased opinion

if anyone wants to offer

[paper bloom]

go on

[carmine vector]

yo no budget, whats the best wooting layout i can have

[paper bloom]

ANSI

[carmine vector]

no customization?

[paper bloom]

Layout would ANSI keycaps

With hiragana for me ig

The ones from keycapco

kapco*

[marsh saffron]

On what

[peak smelt]

overlubed? or no

the 2nd jade switch is the hand lubed one

it has 60g springs if that matters

[peak smelt]

NOOOOOOOOO

🥲

[little glen]

Idk its up to you decide how you feel about it

[peak smelt]

i mean yeah

feel and stuff

[dawn bison]

Any reasonably priced wrist rest recommendations for a Tofu60 Redux Case? I'm leaning on wood. Please @ or reply to this so I get pinged.

[little glen]

Build it yourself

[dawn bison]

WTF

Hell nah

[peak smelt]

get the wooting rest instead lol

fits perfect on my tofu