🔧│keyboard_modding

[knotty iron]

but I think the 1.6mm WS v3.1 STABS are compatible with the 60HE+

[stray tiger]

Yes

[marsh saffron]

How do they sound compared to jades

Similar I assume?

[stray tiger]

Similar but a little poppier

[knotty iron]

they have silicone inside them

[marsh saffron]

I think I've found the switch I'm going for thanks

[knotty iron]

do tell

[tawdry tree]

I don’t want to mix sets cause I know that’s a pain to do

or so people have said

[marsh saffron]

Lavenders

[harsh dove]

https://www.twitch.tv/camofflife

Unboxing the NEO Lavender HE switches, come hangout if yall want

[knotty iron]

yeah

i can do that since I still have time before work

[harsh dove]

yessir

[stray tiger]

Well GMK Nines is basically Boneyard (and Boneyard r2 is coming soon)

[tawdry tree]

Just mixing and matching of any two sets really.

Boneyard does include a 1.75U space bar in its forties

It doesn’t really matter anyway, I just use 65%’s 1.75U RShift now.

[knotty iron]

good hanging out w you guys

[heady terrace]

does it matter what silicone kit i use to make a mold?

@median spade sorry to keep bothering you, did you need long pole stabs for the jades?

[median spade]

Nope

[pastel vigil]

https://kbdfans.com/products/gmk-black-snail?variant=41764305535115

This just opened up. Looks beautiful.

[uncut musk]

what keycaps are those btw, im sure you have said b4

[harsh dove]

GMK Symbiote

[lament grotto]

im keepin my eyes peeped for some good legit gmk deals!

[heady terrace]

anyone got any recs for switch pullers

[heady terrace]

how were the lavenders

[harsh dove]

They're great, similar to Jades, top housing I think makes the most of the difference

[heady terrace]

do u prefer them over jades?

[harsh dove]

Little deeper, more poppier

[uncut musk]

https://www.amazon.com/Titanium-Switch-Mechanical-Keyboard-Switches/dp/B09Q5X582J?th=1 love this

[harsh dove]

Idk yet, I'll type on them over the course of the week and over the weekend and see, I most likely will, plus they're also cheaper

[uncut musk]

debating getting a new case for the 60

love my redux but

[heady terrace]

theyre a little too quiet for me

do u think i should get jades?

[thorn zealot]

It’s 4.50 for 10 right

[heady terrace]

does this damage the housing>?

[uncut musk]

havent had any issues with it

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[harsh dove]

Really up to you, I don't think they're that quiet

[fluid ravine]

You still streaming?

[thorn zealot]

Yeah they are much cheaper than jades

[uncut musk]

nah

hes done

[harsh dove]

Nah

[fluid ravine]

Ah

How was it

[harsh dove]

Was good man!

Lavenders on top

jk lol

[fluid ravine]

I was abt to say haha

[thorn zealot]

Thank god I didn’t impulse buy jades

[fluid ravine]

What was it like

[harsh dove]

The factory lube is good, or thick as Tirade said lol and stem wobble is good, little deeper and poppier than the Jades

basically the same sound as Jades but a lower pitch

[thorn zealot]

How’s shipping

[harsh dove]

Fast af

for me anyway

[fluid ravine]

Ah
Can you clip a sound test for me?

[thorn zealot]

U live in us right?

[fluid ravine]

How much was it?

[harsh dove]

Yea

[harsh dove]

$27 for shipping lol

[thorn zealot]

31.50 for 70 lavenders is crazy deal

[thorn zealot]

Damn

[fluid ravine]

💀💀

[uncut musk]

18.66 for me in FL

[harsh dove]

Might be cheaper for some of you cause DHL considers me "Remote Area" and charges more but depends

[fluid ravine]

What website?

Ima check it out

[harsh dove]

Swagkeys

[tardy arrow]

when it comes to cases for the 60he, is the tofu60 redux the cheapest metal case or are there other options?

[uncut musk]

ya figured

[thorn zealot]

Same in MA

[fluid ravine]

Same here in TX

[uncut musk]

US base probs and then the 27 for the "remote areas"

kbd news gets you 1.54 cents off LMAO

[fluid ravine]

YUHHHHH 🔥

[uncut musk]

just ordered a white alumaze

[fluid ravine]

O

whatchu pairing with

[uncut musk]

the demons took over

[fluid ravine]

lolz

[uncut musk]

ill prob just use the ones i have now, gmk amethyst clones

[fluid ravine]

mmm

https://keysium.com/product/gmk-clone-amethyst-keycaps-set-purple-crystals/ these?

[uncut musk]

ye

just cheaper and from aliexpress LMAO

getting my beast x 8k thats the purpl and white version sometime soon i hope

osm worldwide been fucking me over

[knotty iron]

i got a Beast X Max in black

[glass onyx]

if I use the Jades, do I need to adjust the analog curve (when emulating controller) to 3.5mm travel distance?

or I can just leave it at 4mm like actuation point?

[brazen sparrow]

Oh it arrived?

[knotty iron]

well, no, I ordered one

[tawdry tree]

any.

discord needs to stop

“> any.”*

[knotty iron]

what happened

[tawdry tree]

they made it so > turns into whatever that is

• too

“*”

• it’s just annoying

😦

[knotty iron]

there should be an option to format and to not format messages

[brazen sparrow]

• yo momma

[tawdry tree]

italic and bold are fine cause those use one before and after

what do you even call this? what is it for?

[knotty iron]

sounds annoying

[marsh saffron]

Beastx mini in lilac for me

[knotty iron]

anyways back to kb modding

[uneven cradle]

this is for quotes

[lament grotto]

I have the glorious switch puller and that seems to work pretty fine. It was also pretty inexpensive.

[tawdry tree]

Any switch puller does the job really. TX’s design is just great in general, that’s why I recommend it every time. 😅

The only switch puller I’ve seen that doesn’t rely on pinching the top housing or denting and/or scratching the plate.

[lament grotto]

well.. the one ithat came with my keychron q5 was Ass so.... while it does do the job. Id rather hire a contractor

.>

[austere creek]

given that i dont even see sensors on the images you send who knows. as i mentioned the other side of the pcb wasnt posted in here

[tawdry tree]

The other side of the PCB solely has those HE sensor and LED combos.

[austere creek]

could be their he sensors are I2C so they do the ADC internally

I2c can have like 128devices or smth but you lose the benefit of the control of ADC since it would be in the package of the sensor

[tawdry tree]

Interesting approach

Are multiplexers expensive?

[austere creek]

define expensive

the multiplexer we recommend has an avg of like 70-75 cents if you buy a singular one

and it already goes down to 55-60 cents often when getting 10

[tawdry tree]

As in that’d be the reason they went with those HE sensor X LED

[austere creek]

https://eu.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Texas-Instruments/CD74HC4067SM96?qs=JHHQeKcAU3DyfvAOSRLjhQ%3D%3D

[tawdry tree]

Hmm, are the HE sensor + LEDs cheaper then?

[austere creek]

sensor + led is cheaper than the combination id imagine

i havent seen the combined version on the free market yet (although i also dont hunt for finding out)

[tawdry tree]

The HE sensor is tiny, even the combo is smaller than the LEDs in Woot’s boards

[austere creek]

yes we mainly wanted nice and bright RGB

and for bright you usually want a slightly bigger package so the LED doesnt wear itself out unnecessarily

as in sinking heat better

[tawdry tree]

oh makes sense

[marsh saffron]

Why does the pcb look wet

[austere creek]

although im not even sure how much it saves cause the components are tiny to begin with

[tawdry tree]

like a coating for spills I think

[marsh saffron]

Ah

[tawdry tree]

Woot has it over the entire PCB, ATK just the top

[marsh saffron]

Would you want it to coat the entire board?

[austere creek]

ideally yes

[marsh saffron]

Odd but probably cheaper ig?

[tawdry tree]

I think so but more exp prob

[austere creek]

yes

[marsh saffron]

Makes sense

[tawdry tree]

actually I don’t think the ATK is a coating

[austere creek]

but yeah i imagine ATK went full cost saving with the PCB

[tawdry tree]

prob flux or something

or it would be oddly placed idk

[austere creek]

if its coating id be confused about the strip left uncoated

[tawdry tree]

yeah exactly

but if it is flux it’s also on the opposite side of the HE/LED where there is no component

so idk 😂😂

[austere creek]

also found what looks like multiplexers on the ATK board. they just use x8 ones not x16

also talked with jeroen about matrix analog solutions and you could do it like traditional switches but you lose tons of time and cant scan the keys as fast

apparently youd basically have an enable pin (so even more pins) and then you can basically enable/disable each sensor 1 by 1 and read it 1 by 1

[cyan elm]

Anyone can suggest what good keycaps are there to replace wooting 60he original keycaps that’s better than it

[austere creek]

define better

[orchid thunder]

is there a list of all he switches that are compatible with the wooting similar to list of aftermarket cases?

[somber roost]

there’s one in #🪛│modding_faq the latest post

tho it probably does not cover all compatible switches

[orchid thunder]

how did i miss that lol thank you

[cyan elm]

Like more smooth to click as the original feels sticky

[austere creek]

thats not a keyhcap thing

that sounds like you want different switches

[little glen]

or your keycaps are dirty if they feel sticky to the touch

[austere creek]

id be confused how our factory lubed switches would be sticky though

[glacial cape]

I bought a pc plate for 60he+, if I wanna use this with a metal case do I need the silicone standoff rings because I don't have them

[slender lily]

Hey guys, I am looking ot buy a tofu60 case to mod my soon to come 60HE. On some website there is an option to add a wieght bar in the case, it's purpose is just to add weight and possibly gain stability right ?

[austere creek]

its purely weight

[slender lily]

thanks !

[shadow juniper]

Donc avec le logiciel tu fais le firmware compatible avec le PCB ? Si c’est ca c’est insane

[marsh saffron]

no

[pure magnet]

Had this one before, was unhappy with the fonts so I sent it back and got the GMK WoB instead

I pretty much paid the same, for KDBfans it was 87 base + 40 for the international kit and the GMK WoB including the international kit was 145

I'm usually not that picky but I really felt like it was too much money for the font quality kdbfans offers

Also I'm German and happy to have contributed to my own economy

Now I just need some accent keys to flash it up

[glacial wind]

er are you mixing up sets here?

he linked gmk black snail

[pure magnet]

Black snail is pretty much WoB

I thought it's a PBTFans

[glacial wind]

yeah black snail is gmk, it's not pbtfans

[pure magnet]

Ahhh good

Misunderstood, good choice then, PBTfans isn't good

Overpriced and bad quality

I mean I got PBTFans in first place because I thought it'd be cheaper but having received it and unhappy with the legends quality, I did the math and the WoB from GMK which includes the NorDEUK kit costs me the same lol

Almost the same, it's like 20 bucks difference

I've been using a BoW set from GMK for the past 7 years actually and got excited because I thought pbt double shot, good quality, not, back to GMK 😂

But yeah due to COVID and inflation, everything is really expensive, I paid I think around 90 for that set from GMK 7 years ago

Will never go white again though, that's my life lesson with keycaps, especially abs

Although GMK had themselves some horrid faulty white ws1 and WS2 sets, probably due to COVID and supply issues

In 2021

WS1 and WS2 turning into Hennessy

[cedar gate]

Is pbtfans bad

I heard they had great quality pbt and the legends look fine?

[split dagger]

YIPPEE!!!

[proper plume]

Where did u order from im guessing ur American cause of the dollars

[split dagger]

I bought them off Divinikey

[pure magnet]

The material quality is actually really good, they are anyways the only ones who make proper PBT double shot, others are mostly sub-dye

But yeah I got the set this week and the legends are just too upsetting for the money I paid for it, even though technically it's better than all the ducky OEM pbt stuff for 60 bucks which isn't much cheaper than actually a PBTFans set

But then I saw that with the international kit, I ended up paying 130 for the PBTFans and the GMK is 145 so I decided to return the PBTFans and get the GMK set

Which is actually manufactured in Germany, has much better QC, the best legends from any manufacturer, nice colors and double shot. Only downside is ABS

[glacial wind]

it's mostly just their mod keys that sometimes have issues

that's why i recommend people get the symbol mods instead of alpha mods for pbtfans

[pure magnet]

Yeah but they have terrible QC, some of my alphas were also skewed, you have to be lucky to get a good set and for that the price is way too high, that's not the case with GMK

I mean the key cap material is great and thick but looking at the graphics and alphas i thought "I paid 130 for this, no thank you"

The Ä for example from my international kit looked like an A with bunny ears

I'd take such a kit for 5 bucks not not 35

God also knows where kdbfans has their caps made, there's no video or info on their fabrication

They probably switch factories for the best price and then charge their name on it, at least with GMK I know where and how it's made

[median spade]

Touch typing is great because I never look at my legeneds, I just like GMK for the sound and it being abs

[harsh dove]

^

If GMK made blanks I’d buy em

My touch typing isn’t the greatest, I have a bad habit of using my index on spacebar for some reason but I still don’t need to look at my board

[agile grove]

I love touch typing

I just dont believe in myself enough to not glance at my keyboard every 5 seconds

[slim peak]

keybr.com is a game changer for touch typing

[harsh dove]

Been typing on these Lavenders all morning, I’m definitely liking that deeper poppier sound

Think ima gonna switch out the POM with Alu plate when I get home and see how that is

[median spade]

[lament grotto]

i truly appreciate that you do this!

[stray tiger]

GMK Redline is such a good looking set

[lament grotto]

thats a nice case

[stray tiger]

If your keyboard is going to have tail lights on it, you need to put redline keycaps on it.

[harsh dove]

Bottom should be a license plate lol

[polar girder]

Deeper and poppier don’t seem to go together in my mind. I missed the streams. What do they sound like?

And curious how @stray tiger might compare them to the stem swapped raptors

[stray tiger]

Id sday its around the same pitch, but a bit more hollow/poppier. If I had to describe it Id say like this https://youtu.be/IgzyaEz4mC4?si=FVlB2fR6gV8E5M1Z&t=36

[stray tiger]

Closer to a jade but not as sharp. Not really deeper, but snappier

[pure magnet]

I dunno it just triggers me when I look at the keyboard,I might as well get dots then 🥲

[polar girder]

Gotcha. Yeah I’ll try to catch a stream or sound test at some point but I’ll probably pass for now.

Thanks for tip

Save up for a frog mini and Alu keycaps instead

[harsh dove]

I’ll see if I can make a more proper sound test when I get home

I have the VOD up for the stream but I feel like it doesn’t do them justice really

[pure magnet]

Looks nice but the legends are a tad too dim I feel, especially when wear comes into play later

[split dagger]

Omg it has a license plate as well 😂

That’s awesome

[pure magnet]

Which is the case?

[split dagger]

Guys what sounds better the foam that comes in the default wooting case or the foam that comes with the tofu 60 redux

[little glen]

there should be a GMK set with the german license plate font

[pure magnet]

Hehe

Called Autobahn

[split dagger]

The wooting foam dose look thicker but idk if I should use it because it’s a little to small and dosent fit completely in the case

[little glen]

very good font

[pure magnet]

That'd be awesome

[little glen]

the 0 and the 9 might be a bit difficult to do tho

[harsh dove]

https://clips.twitch.tv/AdventurousIntelligentAsparagusNinjaGrumpy-22QJxxM_DBolO2dE

[cyan zodiac]

jade lit

can confirm

[harsh dove]

All our ears are different but to me, slightly deeper pitch, same sound, and poppier

[tawdry tree]

Bottom Out 🔉
Top Out 🔊

[stray tiger]

like popping bubbles sound

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[tawdry tree]

the bubble wrap switch

[cyan zodiac]

https://clips.twitch.tv/SpikyInspiringTardigradeOhMyDog-KpKGneSSRkRiAnAm

[harsh dove]

Holy Case Ping

[tawdry tree]

the backspace wtf

[harsh dove]

His leaf springs gotta be loose

[cyan zodiac]

the case is not it

can't find the clip for frog mini

sounds alot better

[harsh dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984799440072220692/1214345421640695832/2024-03-04_13-25-48.mp4?ex=6659ac8d&is=66585b0d&hm=0fd1eb34ad86fbf493f49e12dee1b4b49b21bca01afb28e209f18b46aea7ac5f&

My salvation with jades and GMK Olivia

[split dagger]

Guys what sounds better tofu60 foam or the foam the wooting comes with?

[pure magnet]

What's like the lowest profile case I can put my wooting 60he into?

[split dagger]

The wooting foam is thicker but dosent fit in the case it’s a little bit to small

So idk what is better

[cyan zodiac]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/805012895049842689/1209325594597392405/20240219_153534.mp4?ex=6659de79&is=66588cf9&hm=c7c3f9783486654912fcb4fa55a1e1297c31889c9d892e34d4e76cc2900e8a22&

[cyan zodiac]

any foam?

[harsh dove]

Alumaze

It’s 4 degrees

[harsh dove]

No

[cyan zodiac]

[pure magnet]

L_ock

[stiff dagger]

Has anyone tried the asceni stabs for his wooting?

[tawdry tree]

If that’s what the case sounded like, nobody would’ve bought it. That isn’t the case though.

[cyan zodiac]

maybe someting went wrong

[tawdry tree]

Pretty impressive a block of alu sounded like a tin can

[harsh dove]

That video shocked me a bit ngl

Mine has only ever sounded like that when the leaf springs came loose

Pretty sure Tenturo and Tirade can attest to that too

[cyan zodiac]

maybe

so be fair it was a client's board

so we no longer have it

[tawdry tree]

Is the ping even like that when a leaf spring comes loose?

[harsh dove]

Well not really because that video sounded like the ping was consistent across the entire board

[pure magnet]

Also in terms of depth / height from the ground?

[harsh dove]

Whereas if a leaf spring comes loose, it’ll usually be pingy on one side or the other

[tawdry tree]

yeah exactly

[harsh dove]

Yeah the alumaze is pretty sleek

Has swappable feet too

So can go from 4 degree to 7.5

[tawdry tree]

be based, use no case. just the pad that comes with the module.

0 degree typing angle >>>>>

[pure magnet]

What's the stock case's spec?

[median spade]

this how mine sounded tbh

it's why i did not use it for my 60he anymore lol

[harsh dove]

Skill issue

Jk

Yeah idk mine never sounded that pingy

[cyan zodiac]

get frog mini better

[harsh dove]

I know tirades did but it was a loose spring

[median spade]

I had it and done

Cam has my frog mini now lol

[harsh dove]

Yeah frog is noice

[cyan zodiac]

[median spade]

It was the best case for 60he

[cyan zodiac]

we had a soundtest with jade

[harsh dove]

Definitely

[cyan zodiac]

but went MIA

[harsh dove]

Damn

[median spade]

but I gave up as it still doesn't sound close to mx and just using a freebird60 now

[cyan zodiac]

nah

[median spade]

This was mine before I sold it to cam

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[cyan zodiac]

where the unikorn at?

[median spade]

Don't remind me

[cyan zodiac]

what caps ?

[median spade]

I miss my unikorn every day

GMK white on black

[cyan zodiac]

[harsh dove]

-$1000

[cyan zodiac]

good old wob

just win raffle

[median spade]

Pretty sure elaine would throw out my win

just how she is and my luck

[cyan zodiac]

just do anything to piss her off

and you will be fine

[harsh dove]

Did you have a pink or black one I can’t recall

[cyan zodiac]

there was a black unikorn?

unless you talking about my commision

[median spade]

I had a black one and then traded for pink

biggest mistake of my life

R1

[fluid ravine]

Yoink! mine now

[harsh dove]

They’re nice man, I like em

[fluid ravine]

I'm slowly started to get interested now

[median spade]

Do ou have a test with them in the board?

or is it on that stream

[fluid ravine]

^^^^

[harsh dove]

Not a proper one beside the one on stream

[cyan zodiac]

dam could of put 60he on r1 korn

[harsh dove]

I’ll do a proper one when I’m home

[median spade]

yeah but 60he in korn would still be bad

[fluid ravine]

[median spade]

and then you would have had to dremel

[cyan zodiac]

actually it probs won't go well oring

[median spade]

someone basically did it here but they made a custom case

trying to find the thread

[cyan zodiac]

[fluid ravine]

2 peeps

[harsh dove]

Discord search lmao

[fluid ravine]

RECONNNN

Should I summon him

Lol

[median spade]

or just his thread

haha

[median spade]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1169726936805806171

[harsh dove]

And my spacebar sounds echoey on stream

I got a new audio interface and I had forgot to set it up before stream

[fluid ravine]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1220765855114203196

[harsh dove]

So the audio isn’t the best

[fluid ravine]

I found Tommy

[cyan zodiac]

oh that

[fluid ravine]

Oo whatchu get

[cyan zodiac]

yeah i saw it before

it's just a korn clone lol

[harsh dove]

New 4th gen Scarlett

[fluid ravine]

Oh you haven't set that up still?

Mannn

[harsh dove]

Nah I do

Just wasn’t setup for stream

So audio was effed lol

[brazen sparrow]

@harsh dove Listening to you sound comparison for the lavenders it sounds like the jades have more ‘air’ when pressed if that makes sense.

[harsh dove]

I could see that

[tawdry tree]

Magnetic Switches manufactured by Grain Gold:
GEON’s Raptor HE
Latenpow’s Magnetic White/Strawberry (reversed polarity)
Latenpow’s Magnetic Strawberry V2 (reversed polarity, box stem)
Hejin’s Magnetic Teal/Yellow
Hejin’s Black Knight (box stem)
Hejin’s Rice (closed bottom, box stem)
Neo’s Lavender Magnetic (closed bottom)
GEON’s Raw HE (semi-closed bottom)

I feel like I forgot one.

[harsh dove]

You did

[median spade]

Yeah you forgot the one

[tawdry tree]

😊🖕

🤣

[split dagger]

Guys what sounds better in a tofu60 redux the foam the redux comes with or the default wooting foam

[stiff dagger]

I'm using the foam of the redux. I like it tho

it fits good in the case too

But I have the acrylic version. So it's not metal

[split dagger]

Yea I did notice the wooting foam is smaller but the wooting foam is thicker

[stiff dagger]

Yea that is true

I mean, why not try both and compare. Not a big deal to swap between the foam

[split dagger]

True

[swift bay]

im running into clearance issues with the durock v2 screw ins and im using the pc plate

any way to solve it?

[stray tiger]

Wait dont you mean GUGU Black Knight Magnetic

[harsh dove]

Need them gugu switches

[stray tiger]

Buy some and test them out for us. I can already tell you how they sound though but at least you'll get a box stem

[harsh dove]

Lmao

[tawdry tree]

Not sure if GUGU is the “brand” even, saw another listing as Axel by Hejin or something.

[harsh dove]

Box stem FTW

[tawdry tree]

Already ordered

They don’t look very promising though

[cyan zodiac]

use tx

better

[harsh dove]

Gonna sound like a plastic cup

[stray tiger]

I had some sent to me 2 weeks ago but wasnt allowed to take pics.

[harsh dove]

Tx can have some tolerance issues with the wooting pc plate tbh

[cyan zodiac]

gg

i only test on alu

[swift bay]

yeah

i read that too

was about to say

[harsh dove]

I personally haven’t had issues but I know they exist

[swift bay]

so what kinda stabs do i go for then

[harsh dove]

Swagkeys knights

[swift bay]

if my durocks can barely fit

[cyan zodiac]

you can file it down ?

it pc no?

[tawdry tree]

Now you can right?

[swift bay]

and when they do fit they get compressed and dont move right

[harsh dove]

Durock should fit no problem tho

[brazen sparrow]

What are these knight stabs I keep seeing?

[harsh dove]

Yes

[cyan zodiac]

https://www.kiwiclack.com/en-au/products/knight-stabilizer-swagkeys

[stray tiger]

Now I dont have them. Was sent to me to test

[tawdry tree]

Nah, durocks same width as APs

[cyan zodiac]

then gg

[harsh dove]

Really?

I have some too

Never tested tho

[tawdry tree]

U did

[stray tiger]

Durocks fit fine

[cyan zodiac]

ik alu can use tx

[harsh dove]

Did I measure the durocks? Lmao I don’t remember

[tawdry tree]

They’re the same width as APs.

[swift bay]

i gotta push the plate in really hard for it to fit

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

[cyan zodiac]

won't pc be same as alu in terms of tolerance ?

[harsh dove]

Oh okay

[swift bay]

and that ends up pushing on the housing and results in the stems rubbing against the housing and inconsistencies

im also using the jades so will those stabs fit them the knights

[stray tiger]

Dont know what to say, Ive never had a Durock not fit and I havent seen mass reportings or tickets come in of them not fitting.

[harsh dove]

If it’s the standard cherry spec cutouts then yeah @cyan zodiac but the pc has more flex which can cause the stabs to bind if it’s too tight

[swift bay]

they didnt fit properly on both the alu plate and pc plate

[cyan zodiac]

[tawdry tree]

Durocks are the same width as TX APs, 6.80-6.85, Cherry spec is 6.65.

[harsh dove]

Yeah that’s odd, just like Tirade said tho, haven’t seen people say anything about durocks not fitting

[cyan zodiac]

ik 100% tx works on alu

idk man

[stray tiger]

Maybe its the version? I've only tested with v2's so my testing range is low

[harsh dove]

Yeah I just have V2’s aswell

[tawdry tree]

I’m pretty width wasn’t changed

but again, if the plate material is flexible you can force them through.

[swift bay]

i did

thats what i did

[cyan zodiac]

he did

[swift bay]

but it ends up pushing on the sides of the stabs

and stems end up rubbing on the sides of the stabs

[pure magnet]

Do the 45s sound quieter than the 60?

[tawdry tree]

yes, that’s exactly the same as with staebies.

and APs.

[harsh dove]

Same switch

Different springs

[swift bay]

yeah

its very annoying and incosistent

[tawdry tree]

On paper, just not compatible. In practice, can be fine, can be not fine depending on plate material.

[swift bay]

had issues with both idk

[harsh dove]

Yeah idk how I got mine to work , I noticed the pc plate pins bending where the stabs go but it never affected my stabs

[cyan zodiac]

idk boss man

ik alu with tx works

i can try again when i go back into work

[tawdry tree]

SW Knights are much slimmer and fit through without force.

[swift bay]

are they available in eu?

[tawdry tree]

I got them from Delta Key thanks to Cam

[swift bay]

found them on a UK site

these ones right?

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

You are from the UK?

[harsh dove]

Found an old pic of mine

With pc plate and tx ap

Those plastic pins bend inward

But I never had issues

[tawdry tree]

Also, you’ve selected long poles.

[swift bay]

nah

[swift bay]

yeah i got jades

i need long poles right?

[harsh dove]

Not necessarily

[tawdry tree]

Are they out of stock on DeltaKey? Prob cheaper shipping if not.

[tawdry tree]

Depends on the keycaps you’re using/going to use.

[tawdry tree]

😕

[harsh dove]

How much is it from swagkeys themselves

[tawdry tree]

can be fine, can be not. It’s just at the verge of being not so usable I think.

[harsh dove]

Yeah definitely

Which is why I’d advise against them

Even tho they’re great stabs

[tawdry tree]

I have seen a lot worse

[swift bay]

https://kprepublic.com/collections/ghost-judges-keycaps/products/ghost-judges-wob-colorway-cherry-pbt-doubleshot-keycap-for-mx-keyboard-60-65-87-104-gh60-xd64-xd68-bm60-bm65 i

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[swift bay]

i got these

[tawdry tree]

Are they easy to take off/loose?

[swift bay]

not rlly

quite snug

esp on the stabs

on some keys yes but on most no

[tawdry tree]

I think non long poles will be fine, but if you don’t plan on changing your switches anytime soon just get long pole.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1202064549092794378/1205532746903199804/IMG_0852.jpg?ex=6659e9dc&is=6658985c&hm=ff5e2154da0f72fcbaa0b282e0a5b2fcd5e46dac50c15eb3d64788649ee493bb&

💀

[swift bay]

yeah nah im fine with the jades

i had the raptors

but ended up not liking them

cause of the open bottom

[tawdry tree]

yeah, then just get long poles

[swift bay]

https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-standoff-silicone-cover?variant=39664289546379

anyone know where to get these from?

[harsh dove]

Better pull that plate up son

[tawdry tree]

thing with long poles is that if you change your switches to 4mm travel ones, your stabilized switches will still be long pole yk?

[cyan zodiac]

use plate fork

[swift bay]

yeah

but then i still got the durocks

or i will just buy new ones idk

[polar girder]

G2 playing well as a team. G2 vs Faze, exciting next stage. Was actually rooting for G2 against Mouz because Stewie2k filling in for Hooksie this tournament. @stray tiger

Stewie only NA person still alive in tournament now I believe.

[swift bay]

so the SW Knight stabs are 100% free of clearance issues?

[stray tiger]

Yeah, they eliminated TL last night. Was a good match

[pure magnet]

Are the L45 generally an upgrade?

[stray tiger]

Upgrade from what?

[pure magnet]

L60

[stray tiger]

Do you prfer 45 gram spring weight or 60 gram?

[harsh dove]

None have been reported and as long as you’re using standard cherry spec stab cutouts for your plates then should be fine

[swift bay]

i have the wooting pc black plate

[harsh dove]

Will be fine then

[swift bay]

okay well i ordered them

hopefully they're fine

[pure magnet]

So L60 are kind of like mx browns, a little heavier and L45 are like mx red?

[stray tiger]

Cant answer that for you. Basically if you prefer a heavier press stick with L60's, if you prefer a lighter one go with L45's

[thorn zealot]

Are these the clip ins are screw ins

[pure magnet]

Uff hard to tell, I owned mx browns and MX red / silent and could not really tell what I prefer since browns had the tactile bump

[polar girder]

Great match indeed

[polar girder]

I would say they’re ran upgrade in feel, potentially. But same switch except for spring.

They’re very light and free, as a switch.

[pure magnet]

But there's a reason Wooting ships it with L60s and not L45?

[polar girder]

More universal or middle of the road for spring weight IMO

L45 is pretty light.

[pure magnet]

Weren't reds the favored gaming switches with 90% of all boards releasing

?

[polar girder]

Idk bro

I just know l60 vs. l45 vs. raptors lol

[pure magnet]

I guess then the L60 are probably better for typing and gaming like browns and reds like L45 only for gaming mainly

[polar girder]

I mean maybe but it’s pretty much just all preference.

[pure magnet]

Yes and no, there must be something that's generally more versatile

[polar girder]

I think eventually they’ve talked about being able to choose. But idk

[polar girder]

Lighter is easier. Idk what you mean I guess. I’m not interested in getting that deep in it.

[pure magnet]

I guess can't compare it with a brown which is 55 anyways

[harsh dove]

I believe those were my screw ins

[pure magnet]

So I guess it's like an MX black

[thorn zealot]

I was planning on getting tx clip ins to do o ring mount

[marsh saffron]

what weight are the lavenders? same as jades?

[thorn zealot]

They are 52g

[marsh saffron]

thanks

[polar girder]

Idk if clip-ins will be much better than screw-ins for friction/o-ring mount

I got plate mount for mine.

[thorn zealot]

I saw the the screw ins interfere with normal o rings

[marsh saffron]

you need a thinner one i think for it to work

[polar girder]

The screw in and clip ins appear to have same housing

I have both the small and medium o-ring

Idk you can prob definitely get it to work

But I have clip-ins and I bought the plate mount cuz the module screw-ins weren’t really compatible enough with my attempted configuration

I haven’t yet tried the clip-ins or the plate mount ones tho TBH

just using the screw-ins without a key in backspace

[thorn zealot]

Are the swagkeys stabs much better than def screw ins on the module

[thorn zealot]

?

[polar girder]

The with the key on it it gets stuck down lol

O-ring interfering with stab

But the switch itself works just fine

Lolz

[heady terrace]

wait so should i have gotten long pole stabs for my jades or no

[thorn zealot]

Ur good

[sharp vigil]

is the jade 70 pack factory lubed?

[thorn zealot]

Yes

[sharp vigil]

👍

[harsh dove]

Stock module screw ins are great

Don’t need swagkeys unless you need new stabs or just wanna try something different but the end result is pretty similar

[thorn zealot]

Alr I prob will try small orings

[fluid ravine]

Guys look!!!

The last one in stock!

[harsh dove]

Shiiii

[fluid ravine]

Gonna buy a Glorious Ice mouse pad so I can use while I have my zowie mousepad washed

[pure magnet]

Returned mine, wasn't worth coming from a GPX2 but the Razer Viper V3 Pro is a really good mouse 🐁🐭

[harsh dove]

For those curious

100% White RGB with Neo Lavenders

Will look purple because of the top housing

[brazen sparrow]

So only the top housing affects the lighting?

[harsh dove]

Not only but yeah it does play a big part

[pure magnet]

Is it better to leave gmk caps on switches in stock or flipped when it comes to RGB?

[fluid ravine]

Good to know
I won't be upgrading to any mices, but I'd say it's def worth tryin out

Maybe one day I will take a look at it

Buy and return

Like my dad always do

Lel

[pure magnet]

Lol

[fluid ravine]

Only gaming mice I use is the hyperx pulsefire haste (1 wired and 2 wireless )

[pure magnet]

Well I was reading all about the 8k, all the new mice, lighter weight, new sensors and how much better they are but when testing it, the difference in performance wasn't with for me upgrading

To me, the improvements from 1k upwards are subtle at the cost of CPU load

[cedar gate]

You gotta try the viper v3 pro lol it's the best mouse out there

[tawdry tree]

Are the keycaps white or purple on the bottom?

[harsh dove]

White, legends are white

[pure magnet]

It is but coming from a GPX2, it's subtle

[harsh dove]

Only ones not white are modifiers and spacebar

[tawdry tree]

Pretty significant color change for how little the top housings were tinted then

[harsh dove]

Except enter and esc keys

@tawdry tree

Spacebar, modifier, alpha

[pure magnet]

GMK customer "why isn't my spacebar double shot 👀"

[cedar gate]

Is pbtfans good I heard it was the best pbt stuff but now I'm hearing the legends suck

[harsh dove]

You want your spacebar to say spacebar on it?

[tawdry tree]

Thought so from your stream yesterday, it prob has an effect on the color

[harsh dove]

Oh definitely

[pure magnet]

Just returned a set, great quality, thick caps and horrendous legends

[harsh dove]

I’ll be swapping to Alu plate today most likely so I can show RGB with no keycaps

[pure magnet]

Why do people have a tendency to always count up 3 things?

And why does GMK have 3 letters

[fluid ravine]

Tempted

[harsh dove]

“Omne trium perfectum”

[pure magnet]

"Pater, filius, et spiritus sancti"

[harsh dove]

Ancient Greek philosopher Pythagoras thought that numbers had deeper significance and that the number 3 was considered as the perfect number, the number of harmony, wisdom and understanding.

[pure magnet]

But yeah, just noticed again the counting up of 3 things hehe

[harsh dove]

Haha

[pure magnet]

And how everybody does that

It's probably the most obscure thing people pass on from one generation to the next for thousands of years

[harsh dove]

Yeah, number 3 goes back pretty far into history

[pure magnet]

The count of 3 things during dialogs and reassurance

PBT

ABS

:p

LOL

[split dagger]

Hey guys

How you guys doing

[pure magnet]

Perfectly splendid

[split dagger]

Nice 👍

[errant oar]

just posted a vid, lubed the ws dash

[split dagger]

@stray tiger you gotta stream more man it was fun watching you stream on twitch the other day

[sacred sable]

@errant oar link?

[stray tiger]

That's the plan. Hope to be launching the channel officially soon. Stay tuned

[errant oar]

in general chat

[placid glen]

It’s an actual psychological phenomenon called the ‘rule of three.’ Look it up. It’s real. It’s why marketing slogans are three words. “I’m loving it”. “Fresh, never frozen”.

[harsh dove]

Yeah rule of thirds

There’s a lot of reasons it’s used

Also applies to photography

[placid glen]

It’s a pretty big thing. In christianity too - the father, the son, the holy spirit.

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[uneven cradle]

also humans love looking for patterns

[harsh dove]

That too

Makes it easier to remember

[fluid ravine]

Just opened this, found out this picks up sweat and oil pretty easily if I'm looking at it correctly. Guess I gotta buy a sleeve lol

[harsh dove]

How’s the coating on the Viper v3?

Does it wear over time from sweat?

[uneven cradle]

there are a lot of 3 word slogans but I can think of many 2 or 4 word slogans as well

[cedar gate]

Not at all from what I've seen

[harsh dove]

Nice

[cedar gate]

Pairs frikin awesome with artisan mouse pads

[harsh dove]

Nice, yeah I got a couple artisans

[uneven cradle]

the coating on the white/black models is very different from what I've heard

[harsh dove]

Using the GPX2 currently

Don’t really care to get the viper, I know it’s good tho

I got superglides on my gpx

[uneven cradle]

not a fan of glass skates, they slow down real quick and wear down mousepads faster

especially v1 superglides v2 last a lot longer

[harsh dove]

Yeah I got the v2

Also have some tiger skates in the closet somewhere

[cedar gate]

Which ones

If you have ninja fx zero soft that one feels like it's made for the v3 pro

[uneven cradle]

I wanna get the Otsu v2 when it releases, although I've heard it's not much different from the original

was also gonna get the new shidenkai but they're redoing all their speedpads to be better

[harsh dove]

Uh lemme double check lol

I have the Hayate Otsu Mid XL and the Hayate Kou Mid XL

Kou is one of their newer ones

[cedar gate]

Tbh not a fan I feel like there are better surfaces if you want a hybrid pad like the gr sr se

[harsh dove]

Not really a fan of how zowie pads look tbh

And I’m a shill for Japanese made products

[uneven cradle]

artisan is very nice, from the unboxing to the quality of the stitched edging

[harsh dove]

Yeah

You can notice the quality soon as you touch it

But yeah different strokes for different folks, there’s tons of pads to choose from, I’m happy with my pads

[pure magnet]

Veni Vidi Vici

[marsh saffron]

If I ever go back to cloth it'll be my artisan zero or a new artisan pad

But glass pad supremacy all the way

[uneven cradle]

the LGG pads are very nice too

[harsh dove]

Yeah those are great too

The lethal Saturns

[cedar gate]

Just about anything made in Japan is like 15x better 🤣 but for me it's artisan zero supremacy

[marsh saffron]

Zero so slow for me

[uneven cradle]

yeah I'm using my Saturn Pro over my zero because I can't get all the hairs out of my zero so it perma looks scuffed

[marsh saffron]

I've never had an issue with hairs on mine

But also I keep my pets out of my room

[uneven cradle]

how long have you had it mine only happened over like 2 years of use

[marsh saffron]

Around 3 years I think almost

2.5 maybe

Also haven't used it for the last year mainly

Just here and there

[uneven cradle]

i don't have pets either but my arms are pretty hairy

[marsh saffron]

Glass pad supremacy 💪💪

[uneven cradle]

hell na unusable without a sleeve in humidity

[elfin garnet]

Mine screams til I let him in lol. The little criminal

[marsh saffron]

Just wear a hoodie

[harsh dove]

lol I used to put my artisan pads (specifically) in the closet in their boxes when I wasn’t home so my pets would walk all over them and so dust wouldn’t fall onto them while I’m not home

[uneven cradle]

im just gonna wear a hoodie in summer hell na

[marsh saffron]

/long sleeve shirt

[marsh saffron]

Inside I don't have issues

I also used to have an AC unit in my room

So my room was like 16c usually

[uneven cradle]

also it's just way too fast for the games i play

[uneven cradle]

damn you like your room cold

put me at 21-22c I'm good

[cedar gate]

Your prolly using a heavy mouse with a light mouse it's much better and you can always boost your sens & dpi

[marsh saffron]

My mouse is 35g

I main glass pad on 25cm/360

I just like speed

[cedar gate]

Bro tracking must be such a pain

[marsh saffron]

And yes I play tac fps with it too

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-run-sped-up-speed-fast-gif-24473544

[marsh saffron]

It's lovely wdym

It's like a feather

[cedar gate]

Your sens is prolly super low

Try getting a zero and boosting your sens

[marsh saffron]

^

I play 15-30cm/360

[uneven cradle]

what's that in edpi

[marsh saffron]

That's fairly fast for most games

[marsh saffron]

Idk edpi stinks

[uneven cradle]

so much easier to calculate

[elfin garnet]

yo I need to get this

[cedar gate]

Edpi is like your dpis ratio to in game sens

[harsh dove]

I think he knows what it is, he’s just asking what 25cm/360 was in that calculation

[marsh saffron]

Cm/360 is far more universal

[cedar gate]

So if you have 400 edpi and sm1 else has 400 edpi with same mouse and pad same glideage even if your sens and dpi are different

[uneven cradle]

yeah it doesn't work across games like cm/360 but who cares when you just play cs anyway

[marsh saffron]

I don't just play cs, as do most people I talk to about sens

[uneven cradle]

yeah I know how to calculate edpi need a formula for cm/360

[marsh saffron]

I'll find a conversion rq for cs

[uneven cradle]

here's mine

[marsh saffron]

my edpi is around 1700-2500

depending on what i feel like playing

[uneven cradle]

yeah any other game aside from tacfps i'm playing 1600 mainly

[marsh saffron]

For cs it's usually around 1500-1700

[marsh saffron]

Even tac fps I main high sens

It just feels way better

But also the only tac fps I play lately is r6 so it's not as unforgiving with high sens

[harsh dove]

Yeah I use 1600 on everything tbh

I also don’t play any tacfps

[marsh saffron]

Mine varies a lot depending on how good my wrists feel/how good my mouse control is at the time

[harsh dove]

Fair

[marsh saffron]

It's basically never below 1600

[uneven cradle]

bout to be playing like woxic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8zvifx67iU

[harsh dove]

I think I read/watched somewhere that changing your sens can actually be good

[marsh saffron]

It is

[harsh dove]

Instead of staying stagnant all the time

[marsh saffron]

Muscle memory isn't really a part of aiming but last time we had this discussion I was flamed

[pure magnet]

My eDPI is roughly 600 at 70cm/27.27inch 360

[marsh saffron]

"we" as in this discord not calling you guys out lol

[uneven cradle]

changing anything makes your brain think more to adapt to the change, even changing your crosshair can do the same thing though

[harsh dove]

Yeah I think in the video I watched, they debunked muscle memory

Would have to double check

[marsh saffron]

Changing sens a bunch and drastically is very good for improving mouse control

[marsh saffron]

Yeah multiple aim groups and aimlabs research team themselves have done studies on it

[pure magnet]

Since my eDPI is between 600 and 650, depending on my mood, it's hard to do the 1600 sensor DPI and then bring it down ingame for high polling rates above 1k

[marsh saffron]

And from anecdotal evidence from me, muscle memory does not effect aiming

I used to main 4k dpi before I realized polling past 2k was pointless

[pure magnet]

Yeah polling past 2k is pointless

[uneven cradle]

those are two different things

[marsh saffron]

Higher dpi helps properly saturate the polling rate

[uneven cradle]

it does but the difference is minimal above 1600 dpi

[marsh saffron]

I usually just match them as it makes it more consistent (in my testing and experience)

[marsh saffron]

Ofc yes

[pure magnet]

But for effective 2k polling you need to set your mouse's dpi to at least 1200

[marsh saffron]

But 3200/4000 dpi does make 4k polling more stable (not noticeable unless it's VERY unstable)

[harsh dove]

Yeah, it was a great video tbh

[marsh saffron]

Yeah once I broke the muscle memory thought and started changing my sens by just how I felt at the time I improved rapidly very fast

It felt far more natural

Instead of being confined to this is my sens I cannot change it I will be bad

[pure magnet]

You can always develop muscle memory for different sensitivities, mine are practiced for 1200, 800 and 600 to 650 dpi

[marsh saffron]

That's not how it works though it's a different motor function

It's motor memory which is more of a brain thing

[harsh dove]

https://youtu.be/Z9nsghDW5DY?si=BVshwRrDswQFQaq7

@marsh saffron

Was this

Had to find it lol

[polar girder]

lol

3200 dpi/4k polling. Big fan

[harsh dove]

With at least 240hz monitor

[polar girder]

I would agree at 144hz refresh

[marsh saffron]

idk on my 240hz i simple couldnt notice a difference between 2k and 4k

[polar girder]

Yeah exactly

[polar girder]

It’s pretty minuscule

[harsh dove]

It’s not big

[polar girder]

There’s many other factors on input and latency

But it’s one

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[marsh saffron]

yeah there are much more important factors for sure

for me i just cant notice it

maybe if i had 360hz i could but on 240 i just cant

[polar girder]

Yeah fair enough

[harsh dove]

Kinda have to train yourself to notice tbh

[polar girder]

It’s far from mandatory lol

[harsh dove]

Same thing with frame rates

[polar girder]

But more than pointless

[pure magnet]

I'm using a 360 Hz Monitor and the biggest wow moment was more the Wooting than anything beyond 1k

[marsh saffron]

if you are on windows, polling rate isnt really an effective way of minimizing latency

[harsh dove]

Well keyboard scanning and mouse scanning are not the same

[marsh saffron]

christ i tried my old k95 platinum not long ago

and holy shit it felt slow

[harsh dove]

Mines in my closet lol

[marsh saffron]

that keyboard used to feel fast to me

[polar girder]

Yeah idk what that means. Maybe it means the Wooting was a bigger upgrade than 1k-2k mouse polling

Idk

[marsh saffron]

i think they mean it was a far more noticeable upgrade

[polar girder]

Right

[pure magnet]

Yes, the improvement of going on mice 1k upwards is ever so slightly

[harsh dove]

Yeah between 2k - 4K is good for almost everyone

[marsh saffron]

i use my beastx mini in 2k at 1600 dpi

[harsh dove]

Yeah same

2k 1600dpi

175hz OLED

Waiting for 240hz OLED but not a configuration I want yet

[marsh saffron]

ive got xg2431

[polar girder]

Nice

[harsh dove]

Waiting for 39” Ultrawide 4K QD-OLED 240Hz+ 1800R Curve

And prefer glossy

[polar girder]

I ended up getting a good deal on a XL2566K

[harsh dove]

Should be released in 2025

[polar girder]

All set until that 27” 480hz OLED comes out maybe

[marsh saffron]

eventually ill go 240hz 1440p oled, but im far too broke for both the monitor and the upgrade my pc would need

[harsh dove]

Fair enough

[pure magnet]

2k gives like a nice noticable a little bit better accuracy but beyond that it's really negligible, sure I can feel it but it's the same going from 240 to 360 Hz, don't really need 360 even though I can tell the difference

But that's just my perception

[harsh dove]

Yeah we’re all different and perceive differently

[marsh saffron]

the only time i notice 2k->4k is that my mouse cursor looks smoother

i literally notice no other difference

lol

[harsh dove]

There’s a cool study on how much FPS the human eye can see by BlurBusters

[pure magnet]

I'd assume that works till 1000 Hz

To tell the difference

[harsh dove]

10,000 actually

But there’s a million variables

[pure magnet]

Ah wow, that's crazy

[polar girder]

Yeah there’s so many misconceptions about this stuff

[harsh dove]

Yeah it literally depends on person to person

[marsh saffron]

"the human eye can only see 32fps 🤓 "

[harsh dove]

Yeah lol

Also depends on if your eyes are staring at something static or tracking something

Pretty cool stuff

[marsh saffron]

id imagine tracking something is better?

[pure magnet]

But some things are negligible, it's really hard to keep up 360 fps in games as well as working with 8k and the necessary DPI and for both the improvements are rather subtle

[harsh dove]

I don’t recall what they said exactly but they have a test you can do yourself here

https://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?t=9552

[pure magnet]

Yup but to reliably tell it at higher refresh rates beyond 500 is already going to be really hard

[harsh dove]

Yeah lol

There’s so many variables

And again, depends on the individual

[pure magnet]

I feel like as long as I get 160 Hz / FPS at least, preferably 240 at times it's fine, don't like to lower everything in the game so that it looks like poop

[marsh saffron]

I won't willingly go back to 144/165

[pure magnet]

I have a friend for example who has a very low budget setup, he plays Hunt: Showdown with me while he plays at 30 to 60 fps and does such sick flickshots and general plays

[marsh saffron]

But it's not like I can't play perfectly fine on it

[marsh saffron]

There's people in the aimlabs discord with top 5 runs on 60hz

[pure magnet]

Yeah I think it's mostly comfort than skill improvement

[marsh saffron]

Yeah it's motion clarity

It's just so much easier to see

[pure magnet]

Yup, I just mean, look at where we are right now, people chasing these insane specs

It's marketing from manufacturers and YouTubers that let's people chase upgrades for even the subtlest improvements

And you're gonna think you need that

To be completive

[marsh saffron]

I'm all for it because it's awesome, but it's certainly not needed to become even one of the best players in the world

[pure magnet]

Yup, not against it, we all do it, it's an expensive hobby but lot of people believe they need it

[uneven cradle]

I don't think it makes me play better but it looks nicer

even playing stuff like minecraft with a high hz screen and you just think damn this smooth

[pure magnet]

But I think, the whole HE and rapid trigger thing to me was a big jump for the past decade or longer I'd say

[marsh saffron]

Definitely

Genuine increase in skill ceiling from it

[pure magnet]

Compared to let's say going from 120 to 240 Hz

[harsh dove]

This tbh, I don’t buy it with the hopes to become a better player, I think that’s all BS anyway, it helps sure, but you yourself have to become better, not just the equipment you’re using. That’s like giving a novice swordsman the best and sharpest sword in the world, doesn’t mean he will perform well with it.

I just buy it cause I like the technology and it’s cool

[marsh saffron]

I love having better tech because I just like it, and it makes the experience more enjoyable

[harsh dove]

Yep

[pure magnet]

Fully agree, just talking about younger gamers who think they need it and wasting money on upgrades that are unnecessary

[harsh dove]

Oh forsure

Tons of fomo and what not out there

[uneven cradle]

All gear no idea as they say

[pure magnet]

Trillion tons 🥲

[spiral anvil]

I like seeing new tech

[harsh dove]

New tech is fun

[spiral anvil]

And supporting it with my wallet to push it further

[harsh dove]

Plus I’m a tinkerer so I’m always taking stuff apart and learning more about it

[spiral anvil]

Same

Engineering is fun

[harsh dove]

Indeed

[cedar gate]

Yeah like on a budget setup you can game just fine on a viper 8khz and a half decent mouse pad of any kind

Upgrades are mostly qol

[pure magnet]

Lol

[pure magnet]

Don't think it can be pushed much further, with mice technology we're already beating a dead horse I feel, something completely new or more significant change would have to come

[spiral anvil]

Ftip mice go crazy

15g shelled mouse in the works

Or was it 12g

I forgot

[fluid ravine]

Bigsly

[pure magnet]

Something futuristic like a silicone pad with a trigger based on deformation at the sensor would be the next step or an object you push stationary with incredible sensitivity which doesn't require you to wipe your desk like a cleaner

A new sensor that's incredibly accurate with less movement and more precision, magnet based hehe

Something that eliminates the scan of a surface would make all these fancy mousepads obsolete

[uneven cradle]

sensors we have now are plenty accurate

it's hunting for that perfect shape

I'm down the mouse rabbithole too far already, I'm trying to find that perfect mech switch

[pure magnet]

But imagine something that measures distance not based on a scanned surface but the reading of an objects disposition

[uneven cradle]

I don't see how that would be any more accurate then how the sensors work now

[pure magnet]

Well just like HE

Measured displaced electrons

Would be far more accurate than any optical mouse

In theory

[pure magnet]

How much is that? 😂

In weight

[fluid ravine]

dunno

@polar girder

[polar girder]

lol

[harsh dove]

Really loving the color of these lavenders

[pure magnet]

It's only 160, 27.2 grams

[pure magnet]

Lol, make it lighter

[polar girder]

I think I’m good

Need to make it a little heavier actually. Add reinforcements for clicks

Got another one being made up. Need to cater to grip lil bit more

[fluid ravine]

I think my mom said I could borrow them

[harsh dove]

Oh word

[pure magnet]

It's only 160, 27.2 grams

G-Wolves HSK Pro 4K

They should've named it G-Wolves JustTheTip

[median spade]

I had a hsk pro 4k

Was cool

[pure magnet]

When mice will be so light

You'll break them after coming back from the gym

Like 12 gram mice

[pure magnet]

Looking hella sexy

But yeah looking forward to Wooting's HE mouse 🐀

[fluid ravine]

but first they need to figure out how to make HE tactile/clickies switches

[median spade]

Not sure an HE mouse would really benefit

[fluid ravine]

mouse no click click?

[pure magnet]

I'd actually be more exited if they figured out a sensor that works based on that tech but that might be beyond their skillset lol

[uneven cradle]

you can make it click it just won't move when you adjust the actuation which makes it pretty pointless imo

[fluid ravine]

Exactly

but someone made a clicky HE

[uneven cradle]

what's the point HE is good for analog the current sensors we have are much better at what they do

[fluid ravine]

i dont remember who but they posted here and reddit

iirc

[uneven cradle]

• you would either need magnets built into the mousepad or a metal base built into each mousepad, it's just a bad idea all around

[fluid ravine]

Besides all that
need a silent HE switch for Bigsly

:)

[harsh dove]

Reupload cause that photo too vibrant for me lol

[fluid ravine]

Full board sound test?

[harsh dove]

Sounds terrible

You don’t wanna hear it

I’m in the middle of swapping to Alu plate

Hopefully it sounds good

Otherwise back to POM

[fluid ravine]

o

[uneven cradle]

if i send an email in I should be able to get a 60he pc plate added to my 80he order right

[harsh dove]

I’d just order them separately tbh

[pure magnet]

Not necessarily, just needs a good idea

[pure magnet]

I'd assume they cancel it and you order it again, since they can't do much at the warehouse besides people like keycap vendors who actually ship stuff themselves

[polar girder]

Black opaque HE when??

[harsh dove]

@tawdry tree

White RGB without keycaps

100% brightness

lol

[polar girder]

Yes, brother

Nice keyboard, brother

[fluid ravine]

yesssirrrr

[harsh dove]

Thanks brother

[fluid ravine]

Am satisfied

[uneven cradle]

just feels bad paying like $34 USD to get a PC plate

[pure magnet]

My brother from another mother

[fluid ravine]

Big bro!

[pure magnet]

It's ok I think, I've spent worse on accessories

The shipping costs are more painful

[uneven cradle]

it's $20 without the shipping cost

[pure magnet]

See 😂

[uneven cradle]

trust me I know all about shipping costs

[pure magnet]

Haha, me too but from the US to the EU, other way around