🔧│keyboard_modding

[fluid ravine]

Oh I see

[polar girder]

Oh yeah I got that aftermarket space bar too lol

[fluid ravine]

Ayyyy k688 ganggggg

[polar girder]

Ayyyyy

Yes sirrrr

[fluid ravine]

I usually take out the pop filter when i do like sound recordings

cus yeth

[polar girder]

Ah gotcha

Good to know

I’m done recording it for now tho lol

I like the sound so it’s all good

[fluid ravine]

yessirrrr

[polar girder]

Tbh I didn’t do any real A/B testing so idk but just evolving it as I go

Oh hear haha one more

[fluid ravine]

Fully Stock TX AP Stabs btw

;)

[paper bloom]

Are yours screw in or plate mount?

[fluid ravine]

Plate mount

I have the 60he

[paper bloom]

O the orig one?

[fluid ravine]

yep

[paper bloom]

Nice

[fluid ravine]

its one year and 3 months old 🥹

[paper bloom]

If its growing strong thats a good thing

[fluid ravine]

Am a happy owner

[polar girder]

that's a comparison to full stock 60he

[paper bloom]

I still got my 2HE lasting me after so long as well

Its been i think 2 yrs?

[polar girder]

and i took pop filter off mic lol

[fluid ravine]

ayyyy thats some improvment

[polar girder]

I kind of want to take same set up and put it in the stock plastic case too haha

that would be sweet

but not rn

You ever play ow?

[paper bloom]

Ive played it

[fluid ravine]

nah i was going to try it out but i had to go to sleep at that time and forgot abt it

[paper bloom]

Its a pain in my ass

[paper bloom]

Its legit not fun anymore

As compared to OW1

Id recommend u siege or CS or some other games besides OW

[fluid ravine]

I mainly play valorant xd

ughhhhhhh this spacebar annoying the shit out of me the more i hear it

[polar girder]

lol yeah i just play CS and OW

[paper bloom]

I as well but im shit at it

[polar girder]

played siege a couple times but not much

I like CS cuz there's no heroes or abilities or loadouts or anything

just an equal playing field and economy

[paper bloom]

I just prefer CS over val cuz of the

Crispiness

and the spray control

Val's strafing u gotta master esp the stop part

[polar girder]

yeah CS>Val for sure lol

[paper bloom]

For cs its like a flow

And most of the time its either peekers advantage or raw skill

and positioning

[fluid ravine]

Ugh flip that spacebar

[paper bloom]

My backspace is louder than your spacebar

LOL]

[fluid ravine]

REEEEEEEEEE

[fluid ravine]

smth light

light work

B)

[fluid ravine]

agree

[paper bloom]

BRO the amount of fighting ive done against fucking immortals

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[paper bloom]

im not EVEN AN IMMORTAL player im a SILVER PLAYER

[fluid ravine]

Im a plat xd

[paper bloom]

1-13

LOL

Im legit hard stuck Silver

[fluid ravine]

xdddddddd

rippppp

[paper bloom]

EVERYTIME i try and uprank to Gold

The last match i got a team with no brain

Either that or a bunch of ragers who spits at their mic

[fluid ravine]

Wait what servers you be playing on

If you're NA i find cali and texas the simple and easy servers

the only time i get some weirdos or when they speak into their mic alot is if they're kids

[paper bloom]

im in SEA

[fluid ravine]

like kids kids, like younger than me kids

[paper bloom]

Vietnam servers and indian servers are fucking tryhards

[fluid ravine]

ohhh

[fluid ravine]

hahaaaaaaa

[paper bloom]

If u hmu with Siege we can play

Cuz im used to the latency

[fluid ravine]

i see

[paper bloom]

• im also moving houses anyway lol gotta get that CAT6A Ethernet power

🦾

[fluid ravine]

yurrrrrr

[paper bloom]

The buildings im in the download is so shit

[paper bloom]

Still tho Val players are insane

for the reaction time they give

LOLL

1 bullet stops everything esp with the vandal

[fluid ravine]

speaking of reaction time

look at this 💀

[paper bloom]

Lemme grab mine

ima see mine rq

LOLL

[fluid ravine]

im like that

lol

[paper bloom]

YEA? 218MS IS SO SLOW

LOL

[fluid ravine]

LMAOOOOO

[paper bloom]

LMAOO

[fluid ravine]

I HAVE NO CLUE HOW I GOT 73

IM HACKING FR

[paper bloom]

BRO

I WAS LOCKED IN

and IT WAS FUCKING

20-5 now

205*

[fluid ravine]

LMFAOOO

[paper bloom]

LOL

BRO U GOT SPLIT FASTER REACTION FOR 73 WTF?

[fluid ravine]

Nah bro literally everytime i do this reaction time test

i slowly zone out
i can feel the blood flow just slowly dropping from head to toe

then all of the sudden BOOM, click

73 xd

[paper bloom]

BRUH

I swear ur straight up a F1 driver

[fluid ravine]

😂

yep thats right 15 yo as an F1 driver

But still identify as He/His as I will never be him

[paper bloom]

I mean why not

F1 driver with 73ms

straight up a advance league alrdy

LOL

[fluid ravine]

[paper bloom]

ok

ive improved

after 10 tries

[fluid ravine]

ayyyyy

[paper bloom]

Lets gooo

[fluid ravine]

lol

[paper bloom]

Atleast im above average and ur straight up jack the ripper

LOOL

[fluid ravine]

Nah lowkey-

[paper bloom]

NA BRO TAHTS SOME POWER PLAY

That tape mod gives that buff

LOLL

[fluid ravine]

its crazy cus its only one layer xd

im telling you one layer and the whole sound acoustic changes

its crazy

[polar girder]

lol i did that on the top of the pcb

[paper bloom]

U dont sa yLOL

[paper bloom]

Idk how but going steel plate with a steel case

Somehow changes a lot of shit as well

I was going from clack to Thock with the swap

[polar girder]

maybe i should take that off? lol

[fluid ravine]

hmmmm

The spacebar does sound different i can say that

but now idk if i need to lube it or not

[paper bloom]

Welp never know if u never try

[hidden pond]

What's the build looking like?

[fluid ravine]

Abosolute shi

you dont wanna see

[hidden pond]

LOL

I like the poppy sound tho

[fluid ravine]

#1173784544529363034 message

it looking like this

xdddd

thanks

hmmm does the spacebar match the alphas now?

Do I need to lube it as well

[paper bloom]

Sounds like it

[harsh dove]

first try

[paper bloom]

JESUS

WTF?

[fluid ravine]

WTF

oh fx nah im done

[paper bloom]

NAH

IM DONE AS WELL

WTF?

[harsh dove]

I didn't even know this existed

[fluid ravine]

xddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

LMAO

[paper bloom]

IM BOUTTA

[marsh saffron]

preclick warrior

[harsh dove]

I'm show my friends

[paper bloom]

GO HAM ON THAT REACTION TIME

IRL

[fluid ravine]

NAHHH FRR

SPIDERMAN

JFKDSLJKFDSL

[paper bloom]

AND TRAIN MY AIM

FUCK SAKE

[fluid ravine]

FK 10MS PING

REACTION TIME GO BOOM

[paper bloom]

IM GOING TO MAKE IT TO 0

BY 2 YRS

[paper bloom]

OK NAH

@fluid ravine

[harsh dove]

there you go

[paper bloom]

THIS JUST KILLED US

[marsh saffron]

preclicking isnt hard just rng

[harsh dove]

yeah

[marsh saffron]

took me a few attempts to do that

[harsh dove]

oh okay

[marsh saffron]

after like 5 misses i got that

[fluid ravine]

wtf xd

[harsh dove]

now who's getting 0.000001

if not tryna preclick I get like 70-200

[median spade]

I average 145-152ms

just depends

[marsh saffron]

mines like 130-150

[median spade]

im also ancient now so that's how it be

[marsh saffron]

if im sober i could possibly be faster

[paper bloom]

im probs like what 182

Havent been training much on reaction time

[median spade]

250 is averagef

so anything under that really is good

[paper bloom]

Ye

[heady terrace]

do u have a sound test of this?

[median spade]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

Literally same setup I had as the frog is from me

[heady terrace]

oh

is that the same one as ur vid

[paper bloom]

Say if you buy the frog mini case and it comes with those layouts

are those a seperate one

[median spade]

No

it's literally whtat cam said in that one you were asking for

[paper bloom]

O where LOL

[median spade]

Oh was responding to etaqua

[paper bloom]

O mb

[heady terrace]

ah mb

[fluid ravine]

[paper bloom]

Eyy same response time

lets go

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[median spade]

yeah all those sound tests are in frog mini

using pom plate, silicone plate insert

gmk

[paper bloom]

But yes when u bought it

With the layout is it an seperate piece?

[median spade]

the plate?

[paper bloom]

ye

[median spade]

Yeah you have to have one custom made

[paper bloom]

Welp shit

[median spade]

[heady terrace]

im curious what it sounds like with that config but pc plate instead

[fluid ravine]

So uh, no lube or yes lube hehe-

[paper bloom]

O and if you guys wanna play siege with me tho

id be down

any server

So long as it doesnt have 300 whopping ping but id loose a bit

LOLL

[fluid ravine]

They should sound similar or close to same

cus the frequency between pc and POM is not the huge at all

both really flexy as well

[stray tiger]

I guess Im slightly faster than the curve. My average was 171 with my best time being 82 and worst being 202

[fluid ravine]

Sup Pops

[fluid ravine]

Oh damnnnnnnnn, Pops not so old after all

[heady terrace]

in ur modding faq what does the polarity of the switches mean?

[stray tiger]

Ohh even at 171 it says 92.3 percantile

[stray tiger]

https://www.dowlingmagnets.com/blog/2015/what-are-magnetic-poles-how-can-you-tell-which-pole-is-which/

[heady terrace]

oh duh ty

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/zoom-triggered-shake-fast-walker-gif-16232542

let him cook

sry

[stray tiger]

Its the brain not the finger! Remember that!

[fluid ravine]

My mom's

[fluid ravine]

Oh wait arent you like 50?

or turning 50

[stray tiger]

Almost!

[fluid ravine]

ahhhhhh

[stray tiger]

Right in the sweet spot

[fluid ravine]

yessirrrr

Mom turned 50 earlier this March

Dad 63 turning 64 this dec

[stray tiger]

Dad has 10 more years before he starts to slow down then

[fluid ravine]

Yessirrr
Alr ima go to sleep now Gn Pops

GN yall

[stray tiger]

Same, Im out

[harsh dove]

Pretty damn good

[fluid ravine]

[harsh dove]

Night bro

[median spade]

old man still got it

[harsh dove]

fr

[toxic knot]

planning to get those keycaps, anything i should be aware of for my 60HE+ before ordering them

and this is the lubing tools i am planning to get, are they good or i am missing something (note: i changed the GPL 105 for Permatex 22058 for the stabilizers)

[sharp locust]

has anyone tried the wooting alumaze 60 vs the freebird 60?

[surreal lagoon]

why is everything so cheap? In Germany we pay for 9g Krytox 205 almost 15€

[tawdry tree]

They won’t shine bright as you see in the picture, I would only recommend those for south facing LED boards which Woot doesn’t have .

[tawdry tree]

This is all good.

GPL 105 is oil used for your switches’ springs.

If you should or shouldn’t get grease depends on which stabs you’re getting/have.

[tawdry tree]

AliExpress

Anything local is annoyingly overcharged

[toxic knot]

here in Malaysia everything is cheap as importing from China is soo easy and is dirt cheap

in another words also China own a lot of business here in Kuala Lumpur so basically it feels like you are in China it self

[toxic knot]

i removed the 105, i will do basic lubeing as i am not an expert and it's my first time so i got those

[tawdry tree]

Which stabs are you getting/have?

[toxic knot]

idk tbh i am using the stock 60HE+

just arrived today

[tawdry tree]

Hmm, stock stabs come with a more than generous amount of lube.

[toxic knot]

then i should skip lubing them right?

[tawdry tree]

Cleaning them and relubed them is kinda a pain

[surreal lagoon]

what

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, you can always add more 205 if you want to.

[toxic knot]

noted

btw @tawdry tree for the keycaps should i get this varient instead ?

[tawdry tree]

Grease I would only use on new stabilizers that benefit from grease over 205.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah if you like those. You won’t have a shinethrough problem with them.

[tawdry tree]

Yes.

[toxic knot]

got you, i will do buy them really like the fade color in it

[toxic knot]

yup this is the normal price we get here as our prices locally here similar to Ali Express

[tawdry tree]

Not sure how good the quality is but the fade is pretty cool.

[toxic knot]

this is a photo from the reviews

[tawdry tree]

Woot’s stock keycaps are probably of higher quality but they only come in plain white or black.

[toxic knot]

yup, idk if actually this give any idea of the quality but the seller is putting this explination of the quality

it's not that expensive also so i might just buy it and try it out

[sharp locust]

bro these are the coolest keycaps ive ever seen

[sharp locust]

lmk how they are

[toxic knot]

definetly will post here once i try them ❤️

the full set from those keycaps here is around 9 Euros

[tawdry tree]

wtf

[burnt heart]

The only problem is that the keycaps are made for keyboards that are angled up

[toxic knot]

the 60HE+ is angled up i believe

[burnt heart]

Maybe

[tawdry tree]

Yup

[burnt heart]

Oo ok

[tawdry tree]

Those keycaps look to be OEM

profile

[toxic knot]

Yup confirmed

[tawdry tree]

which is the same as Woot’s stock caps

[toxic knot]

i am not an expert in them i will send you the link for them if you want to have a look

https://shopee.com.my/ZIFRIEND-Gradient-keycaps-130-pcs-PBT-Mechanical-keyboard-Keycaps-i.1049078432.23157229247?xptdk=2c945e6d-0e65-41a3-923a-c361715768fe

[tawdry tree]

I think womier sells them too on ali

[toxic knot]

alrighty, then i will make my order and let you guys know how they feel

[sharp locust]

That’s insane bro

[sharp locust]

Wooting stock is OEM?

[toxic knot]

that's what you get when you live close to China

[sharp locust]

Wait is OEM the cherry’s ?

Profile

[tawdry tree]

Yeah I think so.

[sharp locust]

Ok I always get the mixed up lmao

[tawdry tree]

No, OEM and Cherry are different.

But only slightly.

[sharp locust]

Wait oem is like

Slanted

[tawdry tree]

Woot’s Take Control caps are cherry I believe.

[sharp locust]

That’s so sick

[tawdry tree]

😂😂

[sharp locust]

I just bought their double shot backlit ones

So I’d assume OEM

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

[sharp locust]

So hyped bro just bought the 60he too

I’m so excited for the performance people rave about

[toxic knot]

i see that you play Valorant, just tried to test it in Valorant as i got the keyboard just today, and it's crazy man, the feeling of movement is beyond what i expected, i am only a plat2 player but i felt a really good difference in how fast you can get your first bullet accurate

trust me you will enjoy it

sooo responsive

[sharp locust]

Let’s go bro

Counter strafing boutta be clean we boutta hit every shot

[toxic knot]

no more this first stray bullet you get sometimes

[sharp locust]

W mans for noticing I play val tho🫶🏻

[toxic knot]

got your twitch also and dropped a follow 😄

[sharp locust]

Thank you bro you’re a goat fr

I’m boutta hit immo tomorrow with this keyboard fr

Well. Whenever it gets here hahaha

[toxic knot]

HAHA, definitely you will, as you will need to focus only on your strategy now, and no more lag between your keyboard and mouse reaction

[grave plaza]

Has anybody used a tofu plate from KBDfans?

like the fr4 or the carbon fiber plate?

[royal badger]

remember kids keyboards arent aim fixes

might help but end the day u still gotta aim

[desert crag]

I just received my tofu redux 60, should I use the foam like thing that came with it

its not foam

but idk what its called

[paper bloom]

The tofu foam

Its your choice u can run the wooting one as well

[desert crag]

which one is prefered

@paper bloom can u just help me tape mod the wooting rq

I dont wanna make any mistakes

[paper bloom]

Just get painters tape and do it

[paper bloom]

Any

[desert crag]

Right place and right tape?

Its masking tape

and is there any places I should be aware not to cover?

@paper bloom

[marsh saffron]

Laughs in controller

[paper bloom]

The space bar and painters tape is better

[paper bloom]

Looks like it

[desert crag]

okay, thank you

[paper bloom]

Just do 1 later per ser side then make sure u have a cut out for ur space bar

I must warn you tho

Once u apply painters tape in the long ass run

If u plan to like swap ur shit out u gotta remove it

Eg.the plate and the screws and shit

[marsh saffron]

Yeah I cut screw holes out and put the PCB screws outside the tape to make it easier

[paper bloom]

and pull it out gently else later on you'll be pulling not only the tape itself

[paper bloom]

@desert crag You can do this too

[desert crag]

Wym

[paper bloom]

Like u poke holes

on ur tape

where the screws are gonna be at

[desert crag]

Ohh, yeah im doing that

[paper bloom]

Ye

[marsh saffron]

Yeah I did it so that I don't need to remove tape mod to take the keyboard apart

[desert crag]

Looks good?

The tape got a lil cut short on sum sides

[paper bloom]

O shit

[desert crag]

I didnt intentionally miss

[paper bloom]

U fucked it big time

[desert crag]

?

[paper bloom]

LOL

[marsh saffron]

Putting my tape mod back on I'll send a pic

[desert crag]

Fr?

[desert crag]

Alr

[paper bloom]

It aint fucked g but im sayin like u could've done what @marsh saffron has done

So it would be a bit easier for u

But otherwise its good if u dont got plans to change shit out

you feel ?

[desert crag]

Im gna poke holes from the other side

[paper bloom]

Make sure u dont fuck the

[desert crag]

Like where the screws go in

[paper bloom]

Chips

And shit

[desert crag]

Arw the chips the white thingys

[paper bloom]

YEA

LOL

@marsh saffron im boutta BG mount my shit soon

[desert crag]

Yeah dw im a careful person

[paper bloom]

Once i am done

[paper bloom]

Good man

[desert crag]

Ive been careful

So far

[marsh saffron]

Haven't tried burger but gummy oring mount is bliss

[paper bloom]

Ima try BG

But im def keeping it

[desert crag]

Im gonna do 20 layers of tape

[paper bloom]

NA BRO THATS A LOT

[desert crag]

Im jokinggg

[paper bloom]

Do like 3-2

[desert crag]

Maybe like 3

Yea

[marsh saffron]

I did 3 and that's pushing it for gummy mount tofu

Especially with wooting case foam it's a tight fit

[desert crag]

Should I do 2 then

[marsh saffron]

I would do 2 but you could try 3 if you'd like

[desert crag]

Ill do 2

Actually 3

Im not planning on bg

[paper bloom]

Id recommend not too

Unless you wanna suffer like me

LOL

Ive swapped plates and the steel and polycarbonate ones are a bitch

Ive broke like what

40 switches ATLEAST

[paper bloom]

from the L60's and the L45's

[desert crag]

Am I buggin or did u screw it the other way

[marsh saffron]

That's on the bottom of the pcb

[desert crag]

Seems good?

The other holes r already exposed

[marsh saffron]

I'm gonna go full clack

No case foam no PCB foam

Embrace the lekker clack

[desert crag]

W

Does my shi look good tho

Or is it gna get fkd up

😭

[marsh saffron]

I would put holes for the screws that attach the pcb and switch plate for when you inevitably take it apart again as it makes it easier

But other than that looks fine to me?

[desert crag]

Ion think ima take it apart again

Only when I receive my switch pads

But then I js gotta take out the switches

And keycaps ofc

[paper bloom]

He still needs to poke holes for

screw ins

If his running the module

[desert crag]

Umm

Im having an issue

@paper bloom

There is a screw that wont go in

Should I unscrew everything again and adjust the tape

[paper bloom]

@marsh saffron @desert crag

[desert crag]

Figured it out

[paper bloom]

Which screw that cant go in?

if its the middle one then no

[desert crag]

By the spacebar

[paper bloom]

The space bar and the sides

[desert crag]

Its cuz im using stock foam

From wooting

[paper bloom]

no those are okay

[desert crag]

And its not leaving alota space

[paper bloom]

Its probs cuz of the stand off

Do u have the brass nut instaslled

installed*

[desert crag]

So I just gotta push the pcb in a bit

[paper bloom]

on the space bar?

[desert crag]

Yes

Spacebar?

Wym

I have the brass weight

[paper bloom]

There shld be a brass nut

go check ur package

Shld have it

[desert crag]

Is it the golden one

[paper bloom]

Yes

[desert crag]

Do I add that

[paper bloom]

Those are the brassnuts for the stand off

install it only on the space bar

[desert crag]

Open it and add it

[paper bloom]

Then i think you're good to go

[desert crag]

Ty

Daaaaamn

Hope it works now

😂

eveything seems to be working well

it sounds a lil different

I love the sound

idk mine didnt even sound ass stock

[marsh saffron]

White tofu gang

[toxic knot]

is that a glass mousepad?

[marsh saffron]

Yes

Superglide XL glass pad

[toxic knot]

Apex legends player i assume

[marsh saffron]

Yep lol

But I use this pad on r6 as well

[toxic knot]

nice bro looks clean

[marsh saffron]

Waiting for deeper sounding jades and I'll swap switches

[toxic knot]

i just got the Hien mousepad and i play Valorant, let me tell you i am not used for speed pads at all 😂

[marsh saffron]

Even on cs I still prefer the feel of glass pad

I just love the speed lol

[toxic knot]

yup i like the speed of the Hien but still not used to it yet

[marsh saffron]

Once you get used to a glass pad cloth just doesn't feel as good

[toxic knot]

for me glass is over kill i believe as i am more of a low sens player

i go like this, not yet started the modifications for the keyboard

[marsh saffron]

I main like 20-45cm/360

[toxic knot]

that's some fast sens tho, i can't handle it at all

[marsh saffron]

40-45cm is tac fps sens

30cm is usually what I main on apex

Glass pad + 35g mouse feels unreal I love it

[toxic knot]

yeah looks like you are literally gliding with those

[desert crag]

Onbb

[wooden solar]

I was thinking of building my first mechanical keyboard for my dad and was wondering if anyone could recommend me some ideas Some of the requirements are: Non super flashy, black theme, full 100% (with numpad) and a UK ISO QWERTY Layout. Aditionly i don't want it to be super loud but to just have a nice typing feel

[paper bloom]

2He problem solved

[vagrant hornet]

Hey is it possible to buger mount wooting 60he one o-ring below and one above like in video on ytb the screw is not long enough to screw in, right?

[spiral anvil]

Alright after soaking the wrist rest in tung oil it finally looks pink

[candid belfry]

I suspected this so bought 5mm M2 screws to make it easier

[polar girder]

You asking if stock screws can accommodate burger mount?

[tawdry tree]

Depends on O-Rings.

[elfin garnet]

@fluid ravine slow ass

[median spade]

Imagine not getting 0ms

beep boop s

[robust basin]

is that the regular beast x?

im debating on that mouse or the sora v2

[harsh dove]

Fr

[median spade]

if you fingertip grip then beast x

if you claw then sora v2

well sora v2 can do both

[harsh dove]

Tirade made me wait till Friday to buy the SK Knight Stabs for the Novelkeys Friday sale

Their sale is boo boo

lol

And they sold out of standard

[robust basin]

so claw isnt good for beast x then

ill prolly go with sora

[median spade]

i'ts not bad but not optimal

If you've ever used the viper v2 pro or viper mini you have an idea of how it is

or finalmouse

[paper bloom]

You can try the lamzu

Meanwhile i just got back from getting my uhh Burger mounting done and that was a bitch

[paper bloom]

You need to have m2x5-6 And a thickness of 1x1.5x1 for the O ring

https://www.amazon.sg/uxcell-Silicone-Ring-1-5mm-Gasket/dp/B08F2HPLG3/ref=sr_1_2?

[median spade]

what a waste of ground beef man

all you people doing burger mount

just eat it dummies

[paper bloom]

Im planning to run a friction mount as a test

Rn im going steel plate with my tofu with a BG mount to have a feel

[median spade]

steel plate

[paper bloom]

Yea i got the prebuilt

What i get for getting 1 prebuilt and 3 modules in 2 weeks

🗿

[paper bloom]

The thing about BG mount is that you gotta watch out for the over tightening and the bending of your PCB

Unless you manage to tighten it enough so that the O ring doesnt get too finicky

and its tight enough or TIGHTER a by a bit shouldnt give off a wrong problem

And i shits you not its hella better than the steel plate with KBDFANS silicone stand off

Shits thin af

But the stabilizer is a bit rattly

I did what the uhh wooting video for BG mount, but the thing is that you gotta legitly put a screwdriver butt by your chest just to perform it

All at the same time making sure your PCB dont end up bending

Regardless if it is steel or Polycarbo

In terms of screwing down and placing it in your case

[median spade]

You missed my joke

[paper bloom]

Oh ik

Im js

Its odd af and + the typing degree is hella up a bit instead of a normal ass 7 is like a 7.1-7.2

[paper bloom]

But you know what they say sometimes even ground beef gotta be used for scraps

[robust basin]

superlight only

[paper bloom]

The lamzu mini is the same as the superlight but better

But the front is a bit lower and the hump is roughly the same if i am not wrong

[robust basin]

how exactly is it better?

[paper bloom]

The Viper mini v2 is a bit lower in terms of the hump in the back and the front a bit lower too but idk how low

[robust basin]

ill look into lamzu

[paper bloom]

4k polling rate, switches running huano

^Top in the market

[wind karma]

i just realized that i think i need long pole stabs

[paper bloom]

Its 55 grams and the price is better than logitech's

[paper bloom]

Well i got the lamzu mini

[robust basin]

i’d need the regular size

thank u

[paper bloom]

The superlight and the Lamzu atlantis mini

are roughly the same size

The mini is a little smaller tho

by like 3Cm ish

For size wise

If you wanna run a regular size then run the 55g the lamzu atlantis 4k polling rate

https://lamzu.com/products/lamzu-atlantis-og-v2-pro-gaming-mouse But i think the 4k polling rate's stuff is uhh sold seperately

^Aka the dongle

[wind karma]

guys what are the 'best' long pole stabs*

wtf

[paper bloom]

TX ap stabs from what I last know

[robust basin]

one more thing. if im using jade switches on wooting module, do i need to order new stabs?

[wind karma]

you don't NEED to

but i'm on stock stabs with jades andd i just realized

the spacebar will not be even

[paper bloom]

Check #🪛│modding_faq

[wind karma]

like one side wil be higher than the other cause of the stabs not being lon g pole

and i can press it in both sides and itll make the other side higher

[median spade]

much lower, smaller, and flatter superlight with more curve on the sides

[robust basin]

yeah i saw something about that

[wind karma]

are they clip in, plate mount or srcerewin

[paper bloom]

Both options

But better to run a plate mount as TX ap stabs have been known to have inconsistencies

[robust basin]

so the beast mouse is much smaller?

[paper bloom]

Check everything in #🪛│modding_faq

[paper bloom]

Yes

[robust basin]

kk

thanks

[paper bloom]

Im just giving you an alternative

btw

For the lamzu stuff

[robust basin]

i see

[median spade]

This is a general idea

[robust basin]

what did you use to calculate that?

[median spade]

eloshapes is the site

it's good for general shape

[robust basin]

gotcha

[paper bloom]

Compare it with the lamzu mini as well

I do wanna see it lOL

LOL*

[median spade]

all 3 or just against the beast x

[paper bloom]

All 3

[median spade]

Sadly this site is only good for very surface level as how mice actually feel in the hand will vary a ton

[robust basin]

i wonder if there’s a huge difference between 8k 4k polling rate

i believe the original superlight only goes to 1k.

so either way its an upgrade for me

[median spade]

Not as much but 240hz monitor needed and up to notice

or to start to notice really

[robust basin]

ah alr

[median spade]

Or you could just be one of those people who doesn't notice at all haha

[paper bloom]

Idk you ten but when i first phased out of the 1k polling from the g303

To the 4k lamzu

[robust basin]

i run 165 so ill be fine with 4k surely

[paper bloom]

I noticed a huge ass difference

[median spade]

Do you have enchance pointer precision on by chance?

[paper bloom]

Nah

[robust basin]

no

[paper bloom]

I dont

im running 6/11 Turned off enhance

[median spade]

Good good

jsut asking as with it on it makes 4k polling very slow

[paper bloom]

Yea ikr

[median spade]

so that's why I said that

[paper bloom]

Shits stupid af

But i got motion sync on for the lamzu

[median spade]

but you alos had huge upgrade in sensor, shape, weight, etc from the g303 so that is a big part of it too

well maybe not sensor

[paper bloom]

I orig wanted to run the shape but then my right hand started giving way

[median spade]

but the other two

[wind karma]

oh so screw in is a lottery?

[paper bloom]

The sensor is a pixart 3995 its the new one

[paper bloom]

Somewhat

[median spade]

yeah i just meant logitech sensor still really good in the g303 so not big jump to the 3395 in mini

[wind karma]

3995?

[paper bloom]

Ye

[paper bloom]

Thats a mouse sensor yes

[wind karma]

39...95?

ive never seen this

[median spade]

He probs just meaning the 3395 haha

as that's what it's in his mouse

[wind karma]

yeah i'm confused lol

[paper bloom]

O mb

[paper bloom]

Ima turn off motion sync and do a aim trainer rq

To see if theres a difference for that feature

[median spade]

I would turn off motion sync myself

just because the only mouse it's implemented actually good is razer products

[wind karma]

oh.. i'm tempted to get screw ins though

hmm

[paper bloom]

You can try

But just be aware

[wind karma]

yeah

[paper bloom]

The only reason I didnt wanna run G303 anymore was cuz of the shape as well and the uhh grip formation

I needed it to be smaller and also needed it to be lighter

[median spade]

and it's a "brick" by modern standards

[robust basin]

what would yall recommend best performance wise? between sora v2, lamzu , and beast X.

[wind karma]

what if my luck ends up being bad.. what issues would i face if i were to use them

[median spade]

any of them

they all rocking the same sensor

[robust basin]

okok

[median spade]

3395

[paper bloom]

When i did aim trainers with it shits fucking getting me on average on 73k

[robust basin]

bet

[paper bloom]

For Gridshot

[median spade]

but if you claw like you say

lamzu mini 4k first

[robust basin]

so its all down to shape

[median spade]

always is

[paper bloom]

As soon as I swapped out of it to the 4k polling rated for the Lamzu and clawed

[median spade]

shape is king

[paper bloom]

I went from 73k average to like a

78k

[wind karma]

counter!

[paper bloom]

Idk

About this part

probs

Uhh some problems with the fitting

At best

And then itd be un useable

[wind karma]

would it just be like really frictiony or just not fit

[paper bloom]

A bit of both

[wind karma]

oh

[median spade]

You would need the smaller diamater oring

[paper bloom]

BUT BUT

[median spade]

if you do screw ins

[paper bloom]

The chances of it are slim and cam runs his screw ins on his space bar

[median spade]

Even with the smaller o ring tbh Ii don't recommend oring mounting with screw ins

[paper bloom]

So im p sure it shouldnt be a problem

Tenturo knowws this more than me so yea

@wind karma

[wind karma]

oh ye

[paper bloom]

Its not just shape its down to personal preference

I used to run superlight

[wind karma]

oh i wasn 't talking about o rings if youre talking to me but i am going to try o rings to see how it goes

since they're cheap

[paper bloom]

And the Razer viper v2

[median spade]

Clips in always my suggestion for oring

[paper bloom]

13 dollars for a 31 KM trip

Is not that fun

LLOL

[robust basin]

yeah i’ll order one of them this week and see how i like it

thanks for help

[median spade]

there is always r/mousemarket too ify ou don't like it and want to sell

[wind karma]

yeah i'll first try o ring mount with stock screw in stabs and if that doesn't work i'll get the clip in tx ap

is clip in better than the plate mount TX ap's?

[median spade]

Are you buying the smaller oring off the bat?

Don't even bother trying with regular thickness

Rule of thumb is anything pcb mounted for stabilzliers is better than plate mount

[wind karma]

i dont know if its a smaller one but there's already one coming to my house lol

[median spade]

Plate mount can be good just requires a lot mroe work and tighter tolerances

on the plate*

[wind karma]

does clip in mount onto the pcb

[median spade]

show order for the rings if you don't mind

they do

[wind karma]

ive never seen how a clip in works

oh

yeah that should be better ithen

[wind karma]

i think it is aregular size so i might be out of luck i don't know

it's a graveshift S 40A i think

[median spade]

oh that should work if it's graveshift S

[wind karma]

oh

[median spade]

that's thte thinner diameter

[wind karma]

yeah i'll try it once it gets here

shipping is taking HELLA long

[median spade]

did you buy from graveshit for mechland

[wind karma]

graveshift.. which seems to be the issue

[median spade]

Indeed

Are they US or different country

[wind karma]

they're US yeah

[cedar gate]

S works on screw in stabs but I would get m if your using plate mount

[paper bloom]

@median spade Yea okay I think its better

[wind karma]

i'm in south asia and the last update was april 25th and that was still in NY lol

[paper bloom]

If i do the test tomorrow

Or the next 2 days

I think ive overdone it for today

Since ive been aim training for the past few hrs before hand

LOL

[median spade]

Oh that's why indeed

[robust basin]

i read the modding faq. since i’m getting jades i would have to either o-ring or get long pole stabs.

would o ring alone be fine?

or do yall recommend just getting the stabs

[median spade]

you don't need long pole stabs tbh

[robust basin]

alright

[paper bloom]

@median spade Ok nvm ive made a conclusion

With and without motion sync makes a bit of a difference

[robust basin]

what size would the o-ring have to be for it?

idk what to choose to fit

[wind karma]

i forgot that the package is supposed to ship to the UAE so nah

but this is INCREDIBLY slow...

even if it's not in the US

shipping label was created 1 month and 2 days ago and its still in the same county according to the updates

[paper bloom]

Actually ima do 1 more test with the motion sync on
To have 1 more feel

Yea ok ive concluded

[paper bloom]

Its about 1.3 seconds slower

Besides my fuck ups and skill issue 🗿

Better to have it off

[abstract karma]

any1 know keycaps that r like all black and have the legends on the side of the keycap instead of the top?

[polar girder]

Yes

But they’re also shine through

The space bar isn’t from that kit tho lol

Like that

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1529935577/black-backlit-side-print-keycap-set

On sale rn

Don’t buy the cleaning brush tho lol

lol so much glare on that spacebar it looks silver

[robust basin]

anyone know? ^ for stab stem

long pole

[abstract karma]

im looking for more of a Matte/rough finish on them those r nice tho

[polar girder]

Module + stock screw ins + jade + what plate foam?

[robust basin]

poron

[plain pivot]

Finally wrapped the alumaze brass insert today... Feels kind of wrong but also an improvement for my specific setup.

[grizzled path]

looks good

[candid belfry]

Updated my build with a 60HE

[stray tiger]

Love the aquamarine

[candid belfry]

60HE+ Module
Mekanisk Fjell
ePBT Be The One caps

[median spade]

I only see one issue

ISO

jk jk looks nice

[harsh dove]

You’re not joking

[median spade]

I mean it does look nice

but yeah ISO

[novel glacier]

why is it bad?

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/its-so-wrong-gerald-broflovski-south-park-s20e9-not-funny-gif-20390038

[novel glacier]

havent got mine yet, dont make me regret it over the smallest thing in the universe (I use nordic keycaps so theres no other option XD)

[stray tiger]

Its not bad

Just wrong

[novel glacier]

hoow bro :D, isnt it like the OG version of enter key anyways?

[stray tiger]

We are Americans so dont take what we think as odd to heart. We play "foot"ball with our hands for crying out loud.

Delivery day

[novel glacier]

where do you get these from? the prices differentiate so much I can't even figure out which site to order new keycaps from

[stray tiger]

There were a purchase off mechmarket

[median spade]

It's ugly

[harsh dove]

Fun fact, the term dates back to late Middle Ages when it was used to refer to any sport that was played on foot as opposed to horseback but also in 1876 when the sport first shifted from soccer-style rules to rugby-style rules , they officially called it football.

[stray tiger]

I do have one more set out for delivery still. Bought Olive when it was on sale last week.

[median spade]

life, death, and red samurai

the forever gmk set

[stray tiger]

I've literally never owned it. Never even liked it. Then it grew on me.

Like a fungus

[median spade]

I had opposite experience

Loved it images, got it on hand, and sold within 2 days

[stray tiger]

I think that's why I never owned it. Everyone bought it and I was like nah I'm going to rebel on principle alone lol

[median spade]

For me it's the gold font in person

Just didn't do it for me for some reason

It's also I'm just a monocolor set enjoyer as that's all my gmk sets on hand except 2

[harsh dove]

That’s how I get , if everyone buys something, I don’t want it anymore

[median spade]

I bought tokyo nights just for the alphas so I could use it with gmk delta get to get full black and teal

never have touched the rest of the set

[harsh dove]

Kinda like the frog mini lol

Everyone’s wants one and now I don’t

[median spade]

[stray tiger]

Speak of the devil. NK was listening

[harsh dove]

Haha

[median spade]

[harsh dove]

I like olive tbh

[median spade]

It's good set, never bought it as don't have a board to put it on

[harsh dove]

Yea

[stray tiger]

I got the light base and hoping it scratches my Botanical Desert Base itch. Otherwise I would have got the dark base.

[harsh dove]

I like that GMK Hi Vis too

https://novelkeys.com/cdn/shop/files/CYL_Hi_Viz_Oku_Wide_1512x.png?v=1713379313

[stray tiger]

@median spade I really didn't have to have Red Samurai or Laser but I did want Midnight Rainbow and the guy was selling all 3 kits for $300 as a bundle so I grabbed them.

[stray tiger]

The new GMK set drop is running looks fantastic too

[harsh dove]

Ah okay fair

I don’t care for red samurai either

And I don’t remember what laser looks like

[robust basin]

hey does anyone know what size o-rings i should use for stem stabs? since im using jades

tofu case

[harsh dove]

https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/drop-bees-keys-gmk-zx-keycap-set/FP/kVNf81wTZ6NcNu4XtiuX_GMK CYL ZX_Event Horizon 2_Final.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=fill&w=500&h=333&bg=f0f0f0&dpr=3&chromasub=444&q=24

This one?

That’s actually pretty cool

I always enjoy it more after I read the lore behind the designs

[old swallow]

awesome board too, event horizon is dope

[harsh dove]

Yeah wish I had one

[stray tiger]

Yeah that one.

[novel glacier]

which is a better first investment, a tofu case or new keycaps?

[frosty dust]

guys i desoldar my switches from my ducky one 2 mini and ordered lekkerti switches u can soldar that switches again right?

[old swallow]

no, those are not compatible

[frosty dust]

u sure?

[old swallow]

probably tofu,

[agile grove]

prob tofu

[old swallow]

yep, HE switches are not the same as regular switches

[frosty dust]

oh

[frosty dust]

i ordered this one

u can use this right

on my ducky

if i desoldar

[old swallow]

no, these are not even solderable

[frosty dust]

so what now?

[old swallow]

well, probably cancel the order if you can

or return if it got shipped already

[novel glacier]

yeah, probably gonna order the case instantly after wooting arrives. I shouldnt have taken the wooting pcb caps coz I could be using my apex 7 keycaps on it aswell haha

[frosty dust]

so there not usable on a hot swappale kb aswell?

[old swallow]

no, since normal keyboards have a 3 or 5 pin bottom, whereas the HE switches only have 2 stabilizing poles, and then dont have a physical connection to the board

since the magnet is what gives the connection

[frosty dust]

u know other switches that are good and fast u can desoldar

[old swallow]

if you are looking for normal switches you probably want to look for something called speed switches commonly, since those usually have faster actuation points

[frosty dust]

ah ok

[old swallow]

i couldnt find a great image, but this is how the wooting HE swtiches are

and other switches have 5 pins like this

[elfin garnet]

wait - u desoldered your ducky and bought HE switches from wooting? What were you hoping to achieve?

[old swallow]

he did a gaming moment haha

[frosty dust]

i bought this switches i undesoldar my ducky one 2 mini kb and i wanna desoldar again the switches i ordered

[elfin garnet]

Yes but why?

[old swallow]

i assume he googled what is the best keyboard, and it said wooting, so he ordered wooting switches

[frosty dust]

i want other switches

[frosty dust]

i didnt😂😂

[old swallow]

haha nvm then lol

[frosty dust]

i got alr wooting keyboardw

[old swallow]

but yeah, you didnt check compatiability

[frosty dust]

got the wooting one

[harsh dove]

Yeah, while that is a hotswap PCB (Ducky), it is not an HE PCB and therefore won’t work with HE switches

And even if it was an HE PCB, not all HE switches work with all HE PCBs

[stray tiger]

There wont be any pins for you to solder of the HE switches

[old swallow]

cam, have you seen these? i dont think they are available to order seperatly, at least not yet

[harsh dove]

Yes

Lavenders

[old swallow]

but im getting a QK65v2 Classic HE, so ill see how they are

[stray tiger]

They are on the switch list in the FAQ

[harsh dove]

Thock knows about em

[old swallow]

oh shit lol

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[old swallow]

i dont know if these are closed bottom actually

gotta check

"specially designed bottom to enhance the typing sound"

so, maybe

3.8 travel, sooooooo

[harsh dove]

They claim that they’ll work on the wooting but we know how that goes

Gotta take it with a grain of salt

[old swallow]

yeah fs, but ill probably keep them in the QK65, but i might give it a try

i wonder if they will also be sold seperatly at some point, i would assume so

[harsh dove]

And for my speculation about them being closed bottom, I think they are, but not the same as Jades, I think they might protude out a bit like a normal mx switch, but not so much so that they won’t fit a Wooting PCB for example, like the design of the KS37Bs

Which would give them the extra 0.3mm

3.5mm > 3.8mm

[old swallow]

i would figure either that, or the stem design would be slightly different

but there doesnt seem to be much info out about that yet

[harsh dove]

Yeah but they stated bottom housing design not stem design

[fluid ravine]

Sup CAM

Sup Struke

[harsh dove]

Wassup

[old swallow]

oh yea yeah, but it could be different open bottom design, altough i doubt that would do much

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[tidal pivot]

Beast x software is so dogwater sadly. Makes battery life poor at best and polling rates unstable compared to competitors. But I still enjoy mine, though if I knew then what I know now I would have bought something else.

[old swallow]

42 to 52 actuation, so i might spring swap it to a slightly lighter spring at some point, but ill see

[fluid ravine]

Whatcha talking abt

[old swallow]

the NEO Lavenders

[harsh dove]

Speculating switch designs

Yeah

[fluid ravine]

NEO Lavenders?

Unreleased?

Who made

[old swallow]

^^

[harsh dove]

They’ve been on Tirades list for awhile

But they’re untested

[fluid ravine]

Oooo nylon housings

[old swallow]

i never knew that list was so big lol

[fluid ravine]

Oh really?

damn

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[tidal pivot]

Not really, Optimum made a video about this specific question. I think it's called "Before you upgrade to higher polling rates"

[median spade]

I made them

[tidal pivot]

4 to 8k you'll see very diminishing returns. And depending on the game you'll see varying results in your framerates

[median spade]

Yeah and he should delete it

awful video and optimum is a meme on mice

[old swallow]

i mean, he does good testing

[median spade]

Nah his testing sucks too lol

[tidal pivot]

It's not necessarily incorrect anyhow, you're absolutely looking at diminishing returns

[median spade]

Dude needs to stay in sffpc land and nothing else

[old swallow]

i mean, his production quality is always great

[median spade]

His latest video on the finalmouse vs beast x vs razer good indication

yeah he does good work for visuals

but outside sff pc stuff he's lacking now

[tidal pivot]

WLMouse software being.... Far off from being good is very shown there

[old swallow]

eh, idk. i enjoy his content

but as to what we were talking about lol, higher then 1-2K polling for mice is not really noticable

[median spade]

Depends on your screen and such

need at lesat 240hz+

[old swallow]

offcourse, but for most people even if theres a measurable difference, its hard to tell as a person

[tidal pivot]

I'm on 360hz and I can't with 75% accuracy tell 2k from 4k

[harsh dove]

https://blurbusters.com/faq/mouse-guide/

[old swallow]

wait whut, cant with 75% accuracy

[tidal pivot]

I'll be right less than 75% of the time

[old swallow]

oh right