🔧│keyboard_modding

[pastel vigil]

ye thats fine

[indigo ibex]

i am running this

i do have weird issues on the bigger keys

I did have to swap to the l60 springs on those

i still have some fringe issues but I think they will get fixed when i replace stabs

[civic totem]

ok i wont buy it then :/

but thx for the help

[indigo ibex]

I mean i think you can get them running fine, just takes some tuning since the caps are so heavy

spring swap isnt very hard

[chrome vault]

Where’s the best place to get gateron jades

Price wise

[pastel vigil]

Ali express

Different sellers do different prices depending on how many pcs you get, sometimes it's cheaper to mix and match too.

[chrome vault]

and i need 62 of them right

for 60he

[pastel vigil]

I got 70 for like 50CAD

on deskhero its almost a 100CAD

[chrome vault]

oh yes i saw them on Amazon

[pastel vigil]

just to give an idea

[pastel vigil]

Idk i'd count your keys lol, its 60 something for sure. I keep it safe and get the 70 pack cuz a few extras are good to have.

[chrome vault]

how much of an upgrade are they anyway from the stock lekkers on te 60he+

[chrome vault]

Hasn’t arrived yet

Or I would lol

[pastel vigil]

you can count them on any image of the keyboard

[chrome vault]

oh that’s true

duh

right

[pastel vigil]

Entirely preference driven. Performance isn't any different really. They just sound and feel different. Imo, 100x better.

Open bottom on the lekkers is gross

[wispy scroll]

Hey guys, do u guys know if the Tofu65 Acrylic case fits for the wooting 60?

I don't want to do any other mods, just want to move to a better case when I get it.

[quiet bay]

no

it's a 65% case

Wooting is only 60%

[nova relic]

tofu redux is what you need

[wispy scroll]

https://kbdfans.com/products/tofu60-redux-case This right here?

[pastel vigil]

Yes. They offer this in acrylic "color"

[nova relic]

thats right

[wispy scroll]

Got it, thank you!

[wispy scroll]

Didn't really care for the acrylic tbh, I just currently have a tofu65 from KBD fans, so wanted to see if I can save a bit to use the one I currently have 😄 But I ordered the redux 🙂

[fast rivet]

Done with tape on plate

no rattle now

[harsh dove]

Very nice

[untold wigeon]

hi, does anyone have experience with the tofu60 black and grey versions? im getting red (and black) samurai keycaps, a red lgg saturn mousepad and a black superlight 2, and the case i want to get is a formd t1 in gunmetal, which looks like the tofu60grey, the problem is the gunmetal version of the case isnt in stock and ive been waiting a while, so im wondering if i should go for black for the formd t1 case and therefore also the tofu60, but im really indecisive and i know that this is subjective but still if someone could tell me what theyd go for itd be cool to have an opinion

problem is i feel like itd make the setup a bit generic if i go for only black and grey, and i also really like the apple space grey look of the keyboard and pc case if i get them in grey

[stray tiger]

What about meteorite gray?

[untold wigeon]

is that an option for the tofu? but the problem is that the pc case isnt in stock not the tofu60 grey, and im just trying to think if i wait for the pc case to restock or if i just buy the black version of it that is in stock and therefore also buy the black version of the tofu60 to match the rest of the setup

[stray tiger]

https://kbdfans.com/collections/tofu60-redux/products/tofu60-redux-case?variant=41734373572747

[marsh saffron]

i was considering this

it looks really nice but i ended up going with white

[drifting bronze]

Does the acrylic with the brass weight make the keyboard deeper then the aluminium tofu redux

Bc I like the look of the tofu redux in black or metiorite gray but I want a deeper sound from the lubed lekkers so Idk what's gonna give a deeper sound the acrylic or the aluminium

[wind karma]

acrylic

is deeper

[drifting bronze]

But I have a black set of keycaps it's gonna look so bad then

And what do u prefer PC plate or metal in the acrylic

[wind karma]

i’ve not tried

[agile grove]

pc plate is deeper

[drifting bronze]

And in general for the lekkers.whzt would u prefer

[agile grove]

metal is a bit higher, plus possible ping

[drifting bronze]

Aluminium of acrylic

[wind karma]

i don’r even have a 60he yet

but plastic is deeper

[drifting bronze]

Does it also give ping in the acrylic case

[agile grove]

the metal plate may end up having a bit of ping, but not nearly as much ping as metal plate + metal case

[wind karma]

if you want deep, pc plate + acrylic case

[drifting bronze]

Becouse I like thocky /deeper keyboards and I want it.to look good so I wanted to buy a tofu but only the acrylic is in stock but the brass not and the aluminium is also not in stock rn so Idk what to do

Yeah but does it still sound good

[wind karma]

but if you want it to look nice swap out the case for a redux but you may not get that deep sound

metal

redux**

[agile grove]

personally I'd go for the look you want

[wind karma]

same

[drifting bronze]

And would it even look good with the black abs keycaps bc it's was the only option and my setup is black

[wind karma]

id get metal case pc plate

[sacred elm]

guys can you recommend some keycaps similar to these?

good quality pbt

[agile grove]

deeper sound is nice but alu can still get pretty deep. I'd say get alu + brass weight + pc plate and you'll be fine

[wind karma]

also the gateron ks20U switches

[drifting bronze]

The gateron ks20u switches I can't find anywhere without getting smacked with shipping

[wind karma]

deepest HE switches i think. not 100% sure though it depends on the other parts too

[wind karma]

ah

even on aliexpress? if its listed there

[drifting bronze]

But I was thinking doing a black tofu redux and brass weight and the black PC plate from wooting with lubed lekkers and the black abs keycaps from wooting

Bc I already got the keycaps and lekkers

[wind karma]

ohh i see

dw about the switches then unless you’re not satisfied in the future

[drifting bronze]

But idk what's the sound of the tofu and PC plate with abs keycaps tough

[wind karma]

itll sound fine

[drifting bronze]

Yeah?

[wind karma]

i think the biggest upgrade you could do is the switch if anything and not those

[drifting bronze]

Bc it's my first time upgrading my keyboard

[wind karma]

yeah dw

youre good

just get the pc plate

and metal redux

ez

[drifting bronze]

Oh but I also don't like the rattle of the stabelizers and the case just is wierd for some reason in my opinion

[wind karma]

idk much about stabs honestly so we need someone else here

[drifting bronze]

Should I go black then?

On the case

[wind karma]

yeah you choose your colour

[drifting bronze]

I just want all black but Idk if the color would match properly

[wind karma]

if its all black youll be fine

[drifting bronze]

The only switches I can find are the ks20 oranges

[wind karma]

oh

rip

[drifting bronze]

Non dual rail and the jades that are not in stock

So I'm thinking on what I should do

Bc is need to buy tool set lube case PC plate bras weight

So idk man I think I'm screwed

[stray tiger]

Youre going to have to spend some money and experiment. No one can tell you what you will like and telling you what I like wont help you.

[drifting bronze]

Yeah I searched for alot of soundtests and I'm going to buy the aluminium case but should I wait for the cases to come in stock on the eu site or should I just smack the shipment once and pay 130 instead of 106

[pastel vigil]

You just gotta bite the bullet and figure it out.

Soundtests arent really informative of what you will end up hearing.

[elfin garnet]

Here’s a picture of the 60he in a acrylic redux case with stock wooting keycaps. I think it looks nice

[drifting bronze]

Yeah just in general I mean

Do u have the brass weight?

[elfin garnet]

Yes

[drifting bronze]

And what switched fo u use

Switches

[elfin garnet]

This I gave away to a friend so I used the lekker 60s

[stray tiger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjA7Oap5XKo

[drifting bronze]

Nice I think I'm gonna go for the aluminium just for looks though

[pastel vigil]

The way I see it is you either use the keyboard stock and call it a day or you fall down the rabbit hole of trying everything under the sun. Researching a theoretical end game build just doesn’t work.

Or you do the visual mods you like it and also call it a day. The search for acoustics has no end because the variables are too high.

[elfin garnet]

go for it. black on black looks good

[stray tiger]

And what you like in a keyboard sound will change overtime or the board sound changes over time.

[drifting bronze]

Yeah but u just want a other case and a PC plate then I'm gonna just leave it

After I lubed the stabelizers and spacebar

[pastel vigil]

Also true.

[latent fern]

soooo true

[drifting bronze]

Ok stupid question then I'm rocking a 2070s and my dad is going to change his 3080 into a 4080 soon so should I go for the keyboard mod or the 3080?

[stray tiger]

3080

[harsh dove]

^

[stray tiger]

WAY WAY better return on investment.

You can sell the 2070 and still have enough for mods

[drifting bronze]

Nah the 2070 is going to my little brother I think

[stray tiger]

Still a much better return on investment.

[elfin garnet]

yeah I thought I liked deep sounding keyboards until I took out my foam and layers of tape the other day

[drifting bronze]

Oh ok

[harsh dove]

Anti-Foam Enjoyers

[pastel vigil]

3080 its not even close lol

[drifting bronze]

And what like I need to save up for new ram and a new motherboard and stuff

What do u mean?

[latent fern]

3080 doesnt have rapid trigger tho :/

[drifting bronze]

Haha I already have a stock wooting

That's the thing

[stray tiger]

BTW, it did end up being a loose leaf spring in that board last night. Actually 2 loose ones. The left side ones were both barely on. Removing the old PCb from that case twisted them out pretty far

[harsh dove]

You don't need ram and mobo for a 3080

[elfin garnet]

lol fuck the mod I would pick the 3080 any day over the mod. U can just lube the switches and fix ur stabs and be well off in the stock case for a while

[pastel vigil]

Stock case slept on

[drifting bronze]

No just to run it at full potetntial

[pastel vigil]

Out of all the variations ive tried ive landed back on this lmao

[harsh dove]

Yeah I had figured, that happened to me before I used the Loctite , I was like wtf is that sound haha

[drifting bronze]

What can I do to the stock keyboard like a PC plate or would it not be that worth it

[harsh dove]

What CPU do you have ?

[elfin garnet]

pc plate, lube switches and tune stabs

[stray tiger]

Yeah you heard it, I knew something was jacked. I did end up yaking that PCB and putting it back into the stock case with some L45's for the Keycon giveaway and ordered a new module this morning.

[elfin garnet]

big difference.. at least to me. Even with lekkers

[pastel vigil]

Worth is subjective. Nothing is needed, just use it as is. If you have extra money try things out.

[drifting bronze]

I could be wrong but I think a Intel i7 9700k

[harsh dove]

Yeah fair enough, you gonna try it again another time with PC plate?

[spiral anvil]

I too would be anti foam enjoyer but HEs be goofy like that

Maybe that changes with jades

[harsh dove]

Eh, you're fine unless you wanna go to AM5 or sumn

[drifting bronze]

You know what il just get a PC plate lube and tool kit f it

[stray tiger]

Yeah

[elfin garnet]

one thing I noticed without foam is that how many screws you use and how hard you tighten them matters way more to avoid ping

[drifting bronze]

The thing is I have a new Alienware 360hz oled monitor and I run in my cpu based game like 200 to 320 unstable so

This one

So I think I'm just gonna use a PC plate and lube the stabelizers and switches

Iw the black PC plate the same kind of black as the stock case

[stray tiger]

Sounds like a good choice

[drifting bronze]

Okay thx for the help man

[latent fern]

im watching the valorant games rn and ive already seen 3 wootings but i know theres way more

[drifting bronze]

Almost 3 out if 10 pros use a wooting

[latent fern]

rapid trigger goes hard on valo

[drifting bronze]

Yeah

What rank are u

[latent fern]

the only pro player i know that modded their wooting is tenz

the rest is just stock 60HE

[elfin garnet]

I feel like the only reason some pros dont use it is because of sponsors

[latent fern]

im G1 :/

[latent fern]

thats probably true

[drifting bronze]

Oh that's not to bad I know someone that's level 190 and is bronze1

[latent fern]

i only started playing comp recently

[drifting bronze]

I'm plat 2 almost 3 so yeah I hope I'll get to diamond

I'm going to sleep have a nice day/night

[latent fern]

gn

[pastel vigil]

Same reason they use shit equipment in other areas

[drifting bronze]

U to

[latent fern]

im pretty sure sentintels are sponsored by pulsar for mice but they dont use pulsar mice haha

tenz uses a ninjutso and zekken uses a razer prototype

[ember coral]

i hope i dont annoy anyone asking a repeated question but has anyone found succes oring mounting their wooting on other boards except bakeneko?

[latent fern]

gummy o-ring mount is definitely doable

you just have to get the correct gummy o-ring depending on the stabilizers

[ember coral]

o ok

im using tx stabs, like rly good clip ins

and im trying to get the he+ module

would u think this can work

[latent fern]

i think thats what most people use for their gummy o-ring wootings

[ember coral]

o okay

and does that justwork with the bakeneko case

[latent fern]

i was able to do it with the stock screw-ins

[latent fern]

it could work in a tofu too

[ember coral]

this works?

im doing it for a firends bday, and i was looking for smth a little mroe premium compared to a tofu/bake

has anyone tried doing it with anythign else

[latent fern]

i personally didnt like the gummy o-ring mount for the wooting

[ember coral]

oh how come

[latent fern]

it made my spacebar sound like booty cheeks

and idk about yall but my pcb/plate isnt perfectly flat

so when i gummy o-ring mounted my module

my spacebar sat a bit higher than the rest of my keys

[ember coral]

oh shi

what case did u use

[latent fern]

it does effect the functionality

[latent fern]

tofu redux

screwing the pcb in helps it lay flat and it looks better imo

its also kinda difficult to remove the pcb when its gummy o-ring mounted

[ember coral]

wont that defeat the purpose of the oring mount

[latent fern]

i meant tray mounting it without a gummy o-ring

[ember coral]

oh okok

[latent fern]

i would never gummy o-ring and then screw the pcb in after haha

that would defeat the purpose haha

[ember coral]

yeahh tahts what iwas sayin

[latent fern]

just for me personally, the gummy o-ring isnt worth it

now i just got a o-ring chillin in my room ):

[median spade]

Gummy oring is not that good unless it’s designed for it

[latent fern]

^^^

[median spade]

So I can see where you’re coming from

I do it on my freebird just because it cuts 80% of the ping

[latent fern]

also when i gummy o-ring mounted the usb-c port sat a little higher than id like it to in the tofu case

[ember coral]

has anyone tried oring mounting a fjell

[fickle bear]

Anyone have a sound test of a bone stock wooting with a tofu 60 redux?

[ember coral]

have you tried oring mount with the fjell

[median spade]

yeah it was fine

[ember coral]

what type oring did u use

[median spade]

30a

I just didn’t like Fjell in general for my 60he

Sucked imo

Great board for Mx of course

[ember coral]

ive seen some clips of it being pre decent, what about the wooting stuff just makes it bad?

[pastel vigil]

HE mechanics are just not the same as a normal switch

Jades is as close as you get and even then its not really close lol

[ember coral]

using jades or the geon switches will affect the rapidfire and hall effec stuff right?

[topaz herald]

BEHOLD

[stray tiger]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[stray tiger]

Holy

Moly

[topaz herald]

It is indeed the kbd fans holy 60

with the wooting

60he internals

[latent fern]

im guessing the cutouts affect the sound right?

[topaz herald]

credit to u/ramoh1

yes im pretty sure it does

but even then im sure it shouldnt sound bad

I want to make mine exactly like that I love the look

[ember coral]

does even after modding the internals and lubing the swithces theu still r shit?

[topaz herald]

and I dont mind if its clacky

[latent fern]

the jades sound good stock imo. the lekkers sounds okay with and without lube

[pastel vigil]

There just aren’t that many mods to do anyway. Most of them affect the base sound. So if you don’t like the base sound, no mod is gonna change that. I personally think HE boards sound fine, good even.

[ember coral]

so y would it sound shit on the fjell with oring then, seems like if u do the things properly and maybe add case foam, it should be pre good

[latent fern]

sounding the shit them might not sound like shit to you

[pastel vigil]

I never said it would sound shit in a Fjell. That’s not my opinion.

[ember coral]

oh ye i was mentioning to this

[pastel vigil]

It’s just their opinion. I don’t have a Fjell, so I can’t comment.

[ember coral]

ye ur right

[pastel vigil]

If you dont already mod custom keyboards, then imo the wooting is more than fine.

[ember coral]

i did a lot of modding and was in the hobby a lot, i quit last year but its my freidns bday coming up and i wanna get him smth nice cuz he playsval n shit and wanted a wooting

[topaz herald]

anyone link me to any of the best sounding wootings you guys have heard

[ember coral]

so i wanted to make it nicer with the mods n stuff cuz ive already did that for some years

[pastel vigil]

Stock wooting 👑

[topaz herald]

ill give it another listen

[pastel vigil]

Lube if they rattle and call it a day

[topaz herald]

https://www.tiktok.com/@exotichippo/video/7280584486671093034

it sounds really good in this

its basically stock other than the case and lube

[latent fern]

what case is that?

[pastel vigil]

Tape mod and filmed switches

[topaz herald]

Zt60

i can link it

[latent fern]

they make switch films for lekkers?

[topaz herald]

it also is shown on the list of compatible 3rd party list that wooting offers

[latent fern]

oh okay ty

i like the chunky sides a lot

[topaz herald]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804994547526.html?gatewayAdapt=4itemAdapt

[topaz herald]

I also did a lot hehe

I cannot decide wether i like that one or this one

[topaz herald]

.

I might go for the cutout holy 60 case though

[latent fern]

it looks really cool

[topaz herald]

because I like the asthetics and don't mind the clack

Im currently working on my setup and am going to make it black and white

about to build a new pc

in the formd t1

[latent fern]

is the holy60 in stock?

[topaz herald]

its pre-order

https://kbdfans.com/collections/holy60/products/holy60-case

[spiral anvil]

Jades feel so much better

kekwait

Especially with the raptor springs

The bottom out feels so right

[latent fern]

jades are hands down the best upgrade you can make to your wooting

[spiral anvil]

Yea the sound is about the same as the raptors until the bottom out

The bottom out is so much better

kekw~3

[median spade]

welcome to jade gang

[chrome vault]

Is there any performance increase or decrease to swapping switches vs stock lekkers?

[median spade]

nope

[chrome vault]

Was looking at jades rn

[chrome vault]

i figured

jades have a shorter travel right

[median spade]

yep

[spiral anvil]

I don't really like stock jades but with hand lubing and raptor springs its so good

The long poles feel so right with the shorter travel

[median spade]

I have L60 springs in mine so I agree

[spiral anvil]

Its not even really the weight but more the long pole curve

[pastel vigil]

Is it actually long pole though, I have compared the stems and its the same on all the switches.

I think the bottom housing is just thicc and so it stops travelling at .3 5instead of 4

[spiral anvil]

I mean the longer springs

22mm springs feel so right on the curve

[pastel vigil]

oh, gotcha

100% agree with the long springs

[junior sluice]

Why are jades better I don’t get it. Also I’m on the hunt for silent keebing

[latent fern]

jades have tigher tolerances and a closed bottom. both of which make them sound better than lekkers.

[junior sluice]

I wonder how lekker v2 will compare. I want a quiet board so I’m thinking o-rings and the lower travel of jades plus restriction of o-rings might make Jade a no go for me

[latent fern]

from what ive heard, lekker v2's are just lekker v1's with better tolerances

yeah if you want quiet, i wouldn't recommend jades

[solemn gale]

could someone tell me what they used for their keyboard?

[solid plume]

Im@so fucking lost

[glacial wind]

there's a video on their youtube, follow through with that

[static tendon]

Am I able to lube the stabs without a syringe/removing all the switches? Or would I need to remove the switches in order to disassemble and get to the stabs?

[spiral anvil]

Bottom out is solid

[spiral anvil]

Just the one over the stabs

You can syringe if you want

[static tendon]

?

[static tendon]

What do you mean by over the stabs?

[spiral anvil]

The switch

[static tendon]

So to lube the stabs I need to go over the stabs with the switch?

[spiral anvil]

What

[static tendon]

That's what I'm saying lol

[spiral anvil]

You just need to remove the switch above the stab to take out the stab

You can syringe lube in there as well

[static tendon]

Oh, so only remove the single switch that holds the space bar and then I can remove stabs? My stabs are screw-in btw

[spiral anvil]

Ah that makes it more complicated

You probably have to unscrew the pcb from the case and unscrew from the bottom as well

[static tendon]

I got it, I'll prob check back in again. Removing the switches has been a nightmare for me. I'm hoping I won't have to remove everything to get to the stabs

[solid plume]

Boom

Just lubed the stabs and swapped steel plate and silicone padding with PC switch plate and foam

Do I use both or just the one on the right as the base

[marsh saffron]

From what I've heard a lot of people prefer wooting case foam in tofu

Id try both and see what you like more

[solid plume]

So the module sits directly on the Wooting foam?

I’m doing the burger mount and the silicone o rings go on the standoffs correct

[marsh saffron]

Not sure

I'm gonna be friction mounting mine

[solid plume]

Left side of module

You can see the ring

[static tendon]

Love this case

[vale swan]

wait bruh

thats the same color i have

what keycaps you putting on that bitch

[static tendon]

So far I have had GMK Synthwave, then GMK mitolet, and currrntly rocking my old clone GMK Vaporwave. I ordered the real set so I hope to have it come within the next couple weeks

[vale swan]

i have gmk dracula on rn but i ordered pbtfans cookies n creams

[vale swan]

nice

this is mine rn

and i ordered these

they are abs not pbt

[static tendon]

Looks cleannnn. I love the case. I was even considering to get a black one to just swap around with but ended up not going that route

[vale swan]

i tried my pbt wob set on it

like full black

it was clean

not the best pic, but it looks clean

[static tendon]

Yeah black is super clean but I’ve typically steered towards brighter colors

[vale swan]

yeah

im doing that too

[vale swan]

black is well too dark

[static tendon]

In the future I want a set like this

[static tendon]

Agreed. Light caps reflect lighting really well

[vale swan]

that too

[static tendon]

But again, black is clean. Can’t go wrong with it

[vale swan]

its kinda hard on my eyes now ngl

[static tendon]

The RGB?

[vale swan]

no

the color itself

it just doesnt look right

after using dracula

for so long

i only put it on to try the pbt spacebar again and because i was cleaning my gmk

[static tendon]

Ohhh the colored keycaps, oh yeah I can agree

[vale swan]

ye

[vale swan]

Redacted would look good on this too

[static tendon]

I’m excited for these though

[vale swan]

Striker especially

[static tendon]

Very bright tho 😂

[vale swan]

but i wanted to try smth different

ig if i dont like the sound of those pbtfans abs caps i'll go with striker or redacted

they are darker in sound profile than GMK but not PBT levels

[vale swan]

yeah

striker is just clean

[static tendon]

I love the striker, I was so close to purchasing them. But turned it down, I steered towards the Vaporwave set

[vale swan]

the problem with striker

is it seems like everyone has it

[static tendon]

But the blue and white matches my setup well. I think I’m gonna rework some of my setup and go more purple theme. I’ve had blue and white for the past 5 years or so

[vale swan]

i have a wood desk a black pad and a black mouse so the white on white or white on blue dont go with anything

but ye

[static tendon]

100% I can agree. A lot of blue salvations also run a blue striker set

[vale swan]

oh i banned the blue salvation from the cart

for that reason alone

[static tendon]

I was strictly searching around for a white one. I ended up getting mine from mech market

[vale swan]

i got mine from salvun cuz i live in the EU

how much did you pay for yours

[static tendon]

My setup rn. Blue matches it well but I’m gonna steer towards purple

[static tendon]

225$ but this is before the case alone option Novelkeys now sells

[vale swan]

i see

[static tendon]

225$ flat tho, no tax or anything like that which was cool. Brand new, owner never used it

[vale swan]

i paid 370 euros for it shipped

[static tendon]

Ah I gotcha. Novelkeys sells the case alone now. It’s a great offer

[vale swan]

im not in the US but i do know that

we have vat in the prices i think so yeah

and we have 19-20% VAT

[static tendon]

I wish I held off til then maybe? But I did get the PCB and everything so I guess it makes up for it

[static tendon]

Oh makes sense

[vale swan]

i got the pcb and plate included

i havent used either rn

most likely will buy some sorta of HMX switch

then ig decide what layout i want

well more if i want full or split back

[static tendon]

What is HMX?

Like a hall effect switch?

[vale swan]

very good very high pitched very good factory lube MX

nah this is MX stuff

[static tendon]

Oh Mx switch got it

[vale swan]

i have the HE pcb in it rn with the jades no foam and 1 layer of tape with fr4 plate

i like the spacebar

[static tendon]

Yeah that’s something wooting doesn’t come close to rn with its sound profile but I’m sure we’ll see improvements as some more time passes

[vale swan]

but the alphas still arent that great tbh

Jades are still ass even compared to older switches i have

like the tealios the gat blacks the holy pandas i made

especially now that the lube started to break in on most of them

[static tendon]

I’ve just been using the regular Lekkar switches. I hear a V2 will be releasing so instead of getting the Jades I’ll wait out these new sets of Lekkar

[vale swan]

i will most likely put the HE pcb in the tofu redux i have

and keep the MX as my daily driver

[static tendon]

Oh wow, someone else on this discord did the exact same thing but I’m forcing myself to fully switch over to the Wooting PCB, I think Hall effect switches are the future so just getting used to it now

[vale swan]

ik they are the future and im here for it, but i dont game rn

so i dont really give a fuck

[static tendon]

I’ve been loving it so far. Just a stiffer feel, and my settings are twitchy and super sensitive on actuation but again I’m just getting used to it purposely

[vale swan]

its pretty soft in the salvation

[static tendon]

Valid reason, for typing alone mx I think is also the move

The salvation certainly helps

[vale swan]

the problem is that HE springy or w/e noise you wanna call this bullshit is annoying

the loud top out too

these do it way less than the lekkers but still do it

tho I am a pretty heavy typer and i type a lot

the spacebar is the only key that sounds good to me with no other things to complain about funnily enough

[static tendon]

What springs do you typically use?

Heavier?

[vale swan]

well for MX i had 70-80g bottom out springs

but these Jades kinda converted me

the HMX stuff is very good factory lube so i will not open those up

lemme see what springs the switch has that i want

[static tendon]

Oh dang, yeah those are some hefty springs. I’ve usually always steered towards lighter springs, around the 55-60gram weights

I’m using the L45s and man they’re light but I do prefer them over the L60s

I wish they were a smidge heavier

[vale swan]

interesting

https://candykeys.com/product/hmx-sunset-gleam-switch?queryId=2ff59984ce470b5710800e683ae14e7d

these are about 40% of the price of the Jades btw

[static tendon]

Pretty standard in terms of spring weight

[vale swan]

with taxes and everything

70 jades on ali was 79 bucks for me

[static tendon]

Do you use foam or silicone in your salvation/wooting combo?

[vale swan]

no foam

just 1 layer of tape

[static tendon]

I mean PCB foam or still none?

[vale swan]

foam fucks the salvation imo

none

absolutely 0 foam anywhere

the only thing i'd use if you want it slightly quieter is the kbdfans pe switchpad as your plate foam

[static tendon]

Oh wow, I’ve used foam/silicone and got to say I strongly prefer the clack of the silicone. I haven’t tried no foam/silicone though

[vale swan]

but it also makes it deeper and sounds sligthly foamy

[vale swan]

the salvation really doesnt need anything

[static tendon]

The foam was already noticeably louder and brought out the chatter in the switches. I feel like no foam would make that more noticeable

[vale swan]

i put 1 layer of tape to reduce some of the metallic sounds

[vale swan]

oh right ur using lekkers

[static tendon]

Correct

[vale swan]

yeah the jades dont have these issues

oof lekkers in a salvation

[static tendon]

If this were mx switches I’d also probably run no foam or anything

[vale swan]

you poor soul

[static tendon]

😂 for real

[vale swan]

im probably gonna buy these as soon as possible

[static tendon]

Fingers crossed on the V2 set though. Super curious on how those would be

[vale swan]

70 for 36 eur is quie nice

[vale swan]

they'll just be lekkers with less of that spring noise and the chatter

its not gonna be that different

i'd pick up a tofu redux and put the HE pcb in it then put MX in the salvie and use em side by side or smth

[static tendon]

Well you might be right but if it has less stem wobble and has a slightly deeper note, that’s huge to me. The jades have a reduced travel so it’s been steering me away a little

[vale swan]

the salvation isnt really the case for the job with the lekkers

the lekkers are a deeper switch

the salvation bring out a higher pitch in everything

i put my L45s in here and it was awful

mine dont chatter as they are freshly handlubed including the top housing

but it just sounds of nothing

[solid plume]

This is sooooo agonizingly slow

lol

But it will@be worth it

These are jades btw

Jades are being sold on wootings own website currently sold out.

They wouldn’t sell them on their website if it interfered with keyboard functionality

Just food for thought.

[latent fern]

the black plate looks really cool

[naive sage]

Hi everyone. I have my Jades, my 60HE+ PCB and my Salvation case together and ready to go. Is there a consensus on the need for long pole specific stabs? I know that it has been mentioned that TX stabs have been hit or miss.

[pastel vigil]

You don't need long pole stabs unless you get issues with stock stabs.

Most people use jades just fine with stock stabs, if you are using wooting keycaps you will 100% not have issues.

[naive sage]

Perfect, thanks for the response. I'm assuming I should still be good to go with most common cherry sets then as well? I'll be using an old GMK WoB set for this particular build.

[latent fern]

nah it wont work

stem are totally different :/

its all different actually

[pastel vigil]

Yeah GMKs are fine.

Most reputable keycaps should be fine. Once people go into weird obscure profiles and materials is when it starts to be an issue.

[naive sage]

Great, I can't wait to get this put together. Time for the worst part (tuning stabs). Thanks for your help again!

[latent fern]

i just used a syringe with 205g0 and it tuned them pretty well

[naive sage]

Yeah, I've run the entire gauntlet on older builds. I've used BDZ, etc, and my spacebars always come out worse than my other stabs unless I give them extra love. I think I'm just cursed.

[latent fern]

aw damn maybe im just lucky

HE switches aren't compatible with any MX-switch

i wish they were but they arent

yes

no problem you

i would love to use cherry tops with my HE switches

i feel you

that would be awesome

basically haha

i think gateron is filing a patent for their HE switch design tho

what’s new with them?

cherry tops have a nice top-stroke sound

i had cherry mx blacks with 62g springs and they were great

[bronze grove]

Technically more like pre-orders, cause we haven't stocked them once yet. New thing with the 80HE

[drifting bronze]

What's ur opinion on the PC plate with the stock case so Idk if it benefits ass much as much as in a aluminium case

[frigid lodge]

so one layer of tape on the module PCBA works pretty well with an acrylic case

three layers wouldn't let me screw it back in lol

[untold wigeon]

is the factory lubing on the gateron jades good?

[glacial wind]

it's pretty decent. Not as good as hand lube but still solid

[median spade]

No

As much as I want full nylon cherry HE switches

If they ever make them honestly

[drifting bronze]

What's ur opinion on the PC plate

With the stock case

[spiral anvil]

Damn Jades be loud af

[stray tiger]

It's good

[drifting bronze]

I mean when u use the stock case with lekkerd

Lekkers

[stray tiger]

It's all good to me. Which should mean nothing to you but that's my thoughts.

[spiral anvil]

Wait what the

Why do my plate screws keep coming off

Do I need to washer them or smth?

[sharp aurora]

for people that have the jades and the l45s (and maybe the l60s), how much heavier are the jades compared to the l60s and the l45s? (already ordered jades from aliexpress, 110 for 70€)

[stray tiger]

After market plate?

[spiral anvil]

PC plate from wooting

[stray tiger]

Put a little loctite on the screws (blue or purple)

[stray tiger]

About 5g

[spiral anvil]

Loctite my beloved

[sharp aurora]

is that from actual feel or from the technical details

[stray tiger]

Yes

[sharp aurora]

but, actually, do you have them or is that from the technical details?

[spiral anvil]

Both

[stray tiger]

I have them all

[harsh dove]

Good morning brothers and sisters

[old swallow]

👋

hey, i became blue

[median spade]

jades sit in middle

[spiral anvil]

Ngl I don't know if I like the jades with or without the plate foam better

Both have their unqiue sound profile and I can't pick

[median spade]

use them with silicone insert

[spiral anvil]

I hated the silicone insert

But that was the lekkers

Maybe that's changed

[median spade]

depends on what sound you're going for

it does make it higher pitched while removing some resonance if you want that

[spiral anvil]

Can you even get it work with gummy O-ring

[median spade]

I did by cutting out the edges

but no otherwise

[spiral anvil]

Yea I'll pass

[median spade]

not a true modder smh

[spiral anvil]

I spent like 5 hours perfectly lubing the jades, I don't feel like doing more modding for a while

I think I'm just chill without the plate foam

Has more of that Mahjong tile sound

[median spade]

I think you mean rattly top out as that's all HE swtiches ever have!!

[spiral anvil]

kekw~3

[median spade]

I'm sad the lubing of the top housing on my Jades lasted like 2 weeks was all

fixed the problem and then it's back to how they were, a tad better, but still

[spiral anvil]

It do be sounding like Mahjong tiles though

And fuck

I just tighten my mic stand by accident

No sound test I gueess

[median spade]

rip in spaghetti

today I decide if I actually buy 80he

since last day for founders

[median spade]

jades never lost

dog agrees

[spiral anvil]

I had to cut the recording short because she ended up barking right at the end

kekw~3

[spiral anvil]

@median spade With plate foam

[median spade]

Both good

Without better imo

[spiral anvil]

I ended up like with more because its quieter

I realised I boosted the gain more on the second recording so you could actually hear the test

[cedar gate]

Should I pad my space bar and if I should than with what (painters tape?)

[pastel vigil]

I also did the same only to find out I hated it lmao

[vale swan]

were u tryna say doc

[vale swan]

same

tbh its getting pretty hard justifying maining this pcb

instead of MX

[agile grove]

yeah I personally dont get buying a wooting specifically for modding

[spiral anvil]

You tried something with more vicousity?

[spiral anvil]

I like the tech innovations and I like modding so here we are

kekw~3

[vale swan]

i bought it specifically for wanting to try out HE

its getting a lil frustrating ngl but im still glad i did it

like this HE rattle sound and the loud top out is driving me up the wall at times

the spacebar is the only key that doesnt do it somehow

[agile grove]

I bought a wooting module to mod it but mainly I wanted the HE features for gaming and decided I might as well make the thing look cool

[vale swan]

yeah thats fair

ig i just spoiled myself with mx shit

[agile grove]

yea

[vale swan]

and i have researched a lot of stuff since i first bought this

i pray to god the next he switch solves the loud top out and the rattle

[agile grove]

imo ks-20us arent too bad since they dont have the weird lekker rattle, but comparatively to MX switches its pretty rough still

[vale swan]

these still rattle its just subtler

by a lot

[median spade]

idk if something more vicious than 205g0 would really be a good idea tbh

[spiral anvil]

I don't really hear it but maybe I haven't tried the good mx shit

[vale swan]

but its rlly annoying once I take out an MX keyboard

[median spade]

I could do GHV4 I have on hand but yeah

[spiral anvil]

I mean if its wearing off so it seems like the right move

[vale swan]

alexotos used GS2 but thin coats on his v1 ks20 but they still sounded shit

GS2 is thicker than 205

[median spade]

I think gs2 is thinner no? I have some on hand and it seems that way at least

[vale swan]

is it?

i thought it was supposed to be thicker

[spiral anvil]

Jades be nice

Gladge

[vale swan]

or was that GS3

[agile grove]

I tried a very small amount of dielectric grease on the top housing of lekker switches and it reduced the top out sound by quite a lot. very easy to over do it tho.

[vale swan]

ye grease is a no no

[median spade]

let me see if they share the actual data so i can get objective answer

[vale swan]

on a switch

[vale swan]

go for it

[spiral anvil]

I just need my Chinese engraving case and I got the full Chinese pride set up

[vale swan]

i actually wanna know

[spiral anvil]

kekw~3

[median spade]

it's an inbetween it looks like

between 3204 and 205g0

based on cst numbers

[vale swan]

interesting

is it closer to 205 or 3204

[agile grove]

you'll probably be fine with an extremely thin coat but yeah, it'll make your switches feel like you're pressing down on a sponge

[vale swan]

idk tbh

i would not do that

lubing the top housing while the stem is also lubed is not rlly optimal to me

[median spade]

I shall just wait the day once HE sound is solved

it will happen

[vale swan]

i almost wanna sell my pcb once i build up the MX module

[agile grove]

once someone finally makes an HE switch that isnt focused on gaming

[median spade]

At the same time I don't care as much since I dont type all that much on my personal pc

[vale swan]

its so stupid imo to have aftermarket switches that cost so much not be prioritized always on sound

[spiral anvil]

I tried and it was just mushy

[median spade]

it's just gaming there

[spiral anvil]

Plus actually I kinda like the rattle with the theme I have going

It do be sounding like mahjong tiles

[vale swan]

i get the jades is cool with rgb but if ur spending 1 or over 1$/ switch it is insane to have a 30 cent MX switch crush it

[median spade]

that's what stockholm syndrome sounds like!

[spiral anvil]

It is

[vale swan]

that sounds like a cope lmao

ik cuz i had the same moment

[median spade]

tbh when i do gaming on the weekneds I get used to my 60he and don't think about it

[agile grove]

tbh gateron is probably making all these switches to make a bag

[median spade]

then i go and use one of my 5 customs for work

and it's back again

[vale swan]

when u game its not an issue but its more of a mental issue at that point

just knowing that sound is there pisses me off

[spiral anvil]

I don't have any MX boards on hand anymore so I just be ignorance is bless

[median spade]

I also use no desk mat so that doesn't help

[vale swan]

i use no desk mat either

[median spade]

best case was frog mini for no desk mat but that is in the hands of CAM now

[agile grove]

I doubt they actually care about sound that much

[median spade]

or will be on monday

[vale swan]

oh u sold it to him

[median spade]

ye

[vale swan]

nice

[median spade]

If it was black I would have kept it

[spiral anvil]

I got my jades for about 80 cents a pop

[vale swan]

they should after charging 1 or over 1$ per switch

[median spade]

but silver I was over in like 2 days and then it has been in the box ever since lol

[agile grove]

capitalism my friend

[spiral anvil]

What's 72/60 anyway

[vale swan]

the reason HE isnt really popping off in the custom world too much is the switch

[spiral anvil]

Wait common factor of 12

5/6

Uhhh

[median spade]

that and the prpocess for designing HE pcbs

MX pcbs pretty much anyone can do now with a 1 hour youtube video

[vale swan]

and the fact theres multiple switch types and pcbs

not all he switches fit in all he pcbs

[spiral anvil]

That too

And reverse polarity

And tuning the actuations

And accounting for shorter travel or stronger magnets

[vale swan]

The KS37C will work and fit in the 60HE once the update comes but that is meaningless to me because its 100% gonna be a reverse polarity KS20U

[agile grove]

I mean most boards these days use the same chinese firmware and pcbs

[spiral anvil]

Its a lot of work on the software side and I don't think a lot of people know how or want to put the effort

Also I did the math and my jades clock in at 83 cents a pop

[agile grove]

wouldnt be surprised if someone down the line makes an open source HE board firmware

[median spade]

Well it’s already there

QMK

Since that’s what keychron using so whatever they do will be put into the main branch

[velvet egret]

Does anyone know if there are Cherry clip-ins that arent black coloured?

[leaden pawn]

so, gateron over lekker or not?)

[spiral anvil]

Sound wise yes performance wise there shouldn't be a difference

[median spade]

Gateron is lekker lol

[median spade]

Does not exist

Only black

[leaden pawn]

what about wobbly stem?

[spiral anvil]

Much better

[velvet egret]

damn, that sucks. I feel like black clip ins will stick out like s sore thumb

[spiral anvil]

You mean jades or ks20u though

Right?

[leaden pawn]

does you feel it for real? or that's just side to side comparison thing?

jades

[spiral anvil]

Felt it instantly compared to og lekkers

Might be different for newer ones

My lekkers are from a year ago from what I know tolerances got better

[wet hazel]

Hejin Magnetic Switches super cheap on Ali but those are like L45 with Jade activation force? Bottom is open

Spring: sus lol

[fickle bear]

Are the leckers really that bad? Should I just buy jades?

[vale swan]

that is not cheap

just buy L45s lol

[vale swan]

first try it and see

im coming over from custom keyboards

so every HE switch is garbage

[fickle bear]

Alright, I'm going to order my Wooting tonight so I'll see.

[fickle bear]

I'm coming over from a Razer Hunstman V2 TKL, it is really bad, stem wobble, pingy, and just horrible overall.

[leaden pawn]

what is HE switch?

[velvet egret]

Hall Effect switch

[fickle bear]

Hall effect, it is the technology the wooting uses.

[vale swan]

this wont be pingy, the stem wobble will still be there on the lekkers

these will have a rattly chattery sound to them

[fickle bear]

The stabs on the Razer keeb I have suck, they just ping ping ping

[vale swan]

with stabs i dont trust factory lube

no matter how good they say it is or even if it doesnt rattle for like the first week u use it

[fickle bear]

Yeah if my room is quiet is just sounds very squeaky and high pitched when I press some keys

[vale swan]

well this will sound chattery but not pingy

[fickle bear]

Fine with me lol

[vale swan]

first buy these

then see if you like that type of switch

jades are loud closed bottom and high pitched

well louder is the better way to say not loud

they are nothing compared to HMX xinhais lmao

[fickle bear]

are those HE switches, how much?

[vale swan]

no

they are not

[fickle bear]

oh

[vale swan]

your main choices for HE rn is KS20U(best stem stability, way less of that HE sound but open buttom) and Jades(very good tolerances too, way less of the chattery HE sound but higher pitched and closed bottom)

also the Jades are long pole and 3.5mm not 4mm

[fickle bear]

Do you recomend the KS20Us?

[vale swan]

i recommend both

just depends on what you want

quiter and lower pitch

or high pitch louder

[fickle bear]

Alright, YouTube I go for sound tests

[vale swan]

sound tests can be very deceiving

you will not know until you have em

[fickle bear]

Yep, desk surface, mic

Just getting an idea..

[vale swan]

CAM made sound tests

he is in the discord

i think those should be like for like comparable

[median spade]

xinhais and clouds my beloved

[vale swan]

im looking at sungleams for my salvation

[median spade]

they all good tbh

can't go wrong with any of them imo

[vale swan]

yeah il

ik*

factory lube is also crazy good

[median spade]

love the springs too

[vale swan]

ye they seem ight

[median spade]

first time i haven'et wanted to swap it in my 62g 16mm tx

and totally content with the stock ones

[leaden pawn]

too bad gateron switch tester lack both of these

[vale swan]

i would not use a switch tester for that

it is incredibly misleading

[leaden pawn]

i mean you can unplug them and use into a keyboard

the thing is you dont need to buy 10+10+10 etc

[vale swan]

idk tbh

i like to test mine in the board

same row side by side

thats how i test mine

[leaden pawn]

guys, suggest the best/widest items line EU shipping based websites for all the stuff - cases, switches, keycaps etc

[short fossil]

might be a dumb question but is the brass weight for a new case a good move?

[solid plume]

For anyone who’s on the fence about lubricating their switches…..DONIT

DO IT

ITS A WORLD OF A DIFFERENCE

[leaden pawn]

why?)

[solid plume]

Cause hand lube sounds so much better

[leaden pawn]

so we should then)

[fickle bear]

What are the most recomended mods for a stock wooting aside from case and switches?

[marsh saffron]

Lubing

Tape mod

[fickle bear]

what about oring and stuff?

[marsh saffron]

Like friction mount or burger mount?

[fickle bear]

Yes, is that worth it?

[marsh saffron]

Not sure haven't done either

Once my tofu comes in I'm friction mounting it

[pastel vigil]

It's all subjective and it all depends on like your case etc

[solid plume]

Lubed jade switches / PC Plate / Foam / burger mount /

[marsh saffron]

Can I friction mount with the silicone PCB "foam"

Or do I need the foam for it

[leaden pawn]

show please how you did burgers

[static tendon]

Anyone know if I can lube screw in stabilizers in the module without needing to remove all the switches?

[solid plume]

Burger mount goes on the standoffs…I placed the silicon o rings on the standoffs……then placed the module on top and screwed in

[pastel vigil]

You need a lube syringue

[static tendon]

Got it, so I won’t be able to take them out while switches are still on then?

[pastel vigil]

No, you have to take the whole thing apart lol

[static tendon]

I’m trying to avoid the syringe method if possible

Got it. I thought so but thought I’d check in. Thanks

[solid plume]

Today just keeps getting better

[pastel vigil]

GMK really needs to work on their packaging

it's an aboslute joke

[solid plume]

I agree

[pastel vigil]

They should come in something like these https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-keycap-trays

[marsh saffron]

Especially for the price

[pastel vigil]

No excuse to cost as much as they do and come in that garbage they ship in. Even if they charged an extra $10 for it

[marsh saffron]

200$ on keycaps and they come in cheap ass packaging

[pastel vigil]

fr

[vale swan]

thats what the fuck im saying

[vale swan]

they do this because of germany laws

its more eco friendly

[solid plume]

I bought these keycaps to hold me off until my GMK came in

And beautiful packaging

For 30 bucks

on Amazon

lol

[marsh saffron]

Fuck eco friendly I want better packaging 🤣

[pastel vigil]

https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-keycap-trays How is this not environmentally friendly

You really wanna be environmentally friendly go ban private jets

my keycaps aren't killing the planet

[solid plume]

You wanna be environmentally friendly, ban electric cars

[vale swan]

im not saying its a good move

its just how it is

[pastel vigil]

Ban Cars*

[marsh saffron]

No

[pastel vigil]

Yes

[marsh saffron]

No

[pastel vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-driving-car-snapchat-french-gif-26473175

[marsh saffron]

If they ever ban cars I'll outright just off myself🤣

[pastel vigil]

I love cars too I get it

[solid plume]

No no you can’t ban cars

[marsh saffron]

Let's be real every vehicle in the world doesn't make up for a fraction of the damage rich people with jets are causing

[solid plume]

Modding cars and keyboards is life

[pastel vigil]

Damage rich people are causing*

[marsh saffron]

Yeah just in general your right

Ban the rich!!

[marsh saffron]

That's pretty

[solid plume]

Cars and keyboards are life

[marsh saffron]

M4?

[solid plume]

M3

[marsh saffron]

Idk newer beamers much

[solid plume]

It’s a 2015

10 year old car

[marsh saffron]

I'm more of an e30 kinda guy

[solid plume]

love e30s

[marsh saffron]

Id love an m2 comp

Not the newer one it looks kinda ugly

I mostly like my older Japanese crap but love euro cars too

[solid plume]

My endgame car is a Porsche GT3

Once I have kids and get this wedding over

[marsh saffron]

2016 gt3 rs is the most end game car I could ever want

2016 gt3 rs and an r1m side by side is life goals

The r1m is actually feasible, the gt3 rs costs as much as a house already... I'm certain it's gonna be a lot more in the next 10+ years

[pastel vigil]

Everytime I fill my tank I think damn, I could have bought a GMK set.

[little glen]

this is why i put gmk sets in my car instead of fuel

[pastel vigil]

Worlds first ABS ran vehicle

[marsh saffron]

Yeah my car isn't fancy but I love it, it's a fun little thing

It's slow, but it's got a 6 speed manual

And a whopping 160hp🤣

Mine is like a midnight blue though

They aren't that special but are quite rare technically

[median spade]

My wrx is a garage princess ever since I went WFH

[marsh saffron]

My little xrs has had it's fair share of abuse it needs some TLC

[pastel vigil]

As opposed to before WFH when you took it offroading on your way to work?

tfw company provides car so don't even use my car unless am doing a roadtrip on the weekend lmao

[median spade]

It was a commuter car before that with occasional free spirited weekend driving

[pastel vigil]

W

[solid plume]

Well guys

She’s complete

[cedar gate]

What's her name lol

[solid plume]

Anjin

After the show Shogun

Means Pilot in Japanese

[cedar gate]

Lol

[solid plume]

I’m so grateful for everyone for helping out here

Thank you

[cedar gate]

My endgame is a W.I.P. rn but I'm hoping for jades tofu case pc plate and wob crosshair

[cedar gate]

Fr this server is awesome

Can someone link some ks20us

[pastel vigil]

Until you take it apart and redo it 😂

[pastel vigil]

Just google gateron dual rail magnetic orange and ull see tons

[cedar gate]

All I see is ks20 and ppl say ks20u is different and better

[pastel vigil]

First result lol

https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-ks-20-dual-rail-magnetic-orange-switch-sat?VariantsId=10779

[cedar gate]

Isn't ks20u different

[pastel vigil]

these are KS20us

Gateron is just stupid

regular KS20s arent dual rail

and even though they dont say it, Jades are KS20Ts

[marsh saffron]

Almost worse than Intel for naming

[cedar gate]

Awesome I was so damn confused lol

[pastel vigil]

Yeah their naming is stupid lmao

[cedar gate]

Anyways just a few questions

Prelubing is 100% right no need for hand lubing with krytox

https://www.amazon.com/GATERON-Dual-Rail-Pre-lubed-Pre-Travel-Mechanical/dp/B0CYH6M2FR/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?crid=2XU3WMVRDMQBH&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1KV-iLkDWTxoJVDg4x7dIvXoo7NloHuQ2DXgEgbfUspm6-GOLoab-2MzmYKD8cxvDe1LcFu-QnK8H3R08SbDzhOvMG-XSZUJwzo2v0zh8wBC1JWcMFItnZw_7iMh4IFzQW19ldJfIHfGbULpouajqNUgGU8m90PUI0Fnr94Cokc_mrYGRExH9l2NXKYj4HCMox2TOZoSTxkp8YdV9Gbkxw.o5aNqJI74mCHMNnzam07tFxdYK9u6vn8ffeUrs6a9NQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=ks20&qid=1713132896&sprefix=ks20%2Caps%2C285&sr=8-2

Are those legit

[pastel vigil]

They are factory lubed, so you dont really need to do it, but if you can it would be good.

[cedar gate]

And how do they compare to jades

[pastel vigil]

Check ali express they might be cheaper

they are open bottom

so they feel and sound different

wobble is minimal on both

[cedar gate]

I think I tried it for a pc plate once and my card was charged for almost a grand in a diff city

[pastel vigil]

oof

[cedar gate]

But like how more thock less thock? Higher pitch

[pastel vigil]

jades are louder

higher pitched

[cedar gate]

Awesome your super helpful thx

Hope u get your numpad gtg

[pastel vigil]

#1216240474663419995 Boost pls haha

[charred surge]

hey!

so am buying MK 66 pro kit am looking for which switches i should go for.. 🙂

[normal schooner]

lekker switches

(idk anything about switches btw)

[fluid ravine]

[median spade]

Mechkeys would probs be a better place to ask as this all about HE switches here

[latent fern]

what’s your budget

[charred surge]

idk man maybe 60-100

[latent quail]

Will the 80HE switches work in the 60HE?

[agile grove]

yes, in fact the 60he (and all other wooting he keyboards iirc) will eventually ship with lekker v2s

[latent quail]

Brill thanks Luigi

[latent fern]

buy gateron luciolas

[cedar gate]

Just switches will push 70

[median spade]

Got timed out for sending a link to mechkeys

[charred surge]

haha

[cedar gate]

Ask a mod about that

[cedar gate]

Oh is it 60-100$ for just the switch

[charred surge]

yeah

[cedar gate]

https://youtu.be/NgKJIMyz9kI?feature=shared

That sound is unreal

[cedar gate]

Mechkeys is a great place to start then

[charred surge]

now whats that

[cedar gate]

Mechkeys I accidentally typed peys and it auto corrected to plays

[median spade]

Biggest mechanical keyboard server

[cedar gate]

Are ks20u worth lubing at all like jades are good stock but way better hand lubed is it like that for ks20u

And are the switches that can come with the tofu60 redux ks20u

[latent fern]

hand lubing switches is always worth the effort imo but it’s not necessary

[cedar gate]

But like does it make a huge diff

[cedar gate]

and that

[latent fern]

not a huge difference but it will be an improvement

[latent fern]

the tofu 60 redux doesn’t come with switches. it’s just a keyboard case.

[cedar gate]

The optional attachment gatreon Orange

Is that ks20u