🔧│keyboard_modding

[pastel vigil]

Some sets are just sad though. GMK Norse render vs reality

[sacred zealot]

im just trying to figure out how im goint to build a Sombra themed board because im still an Overwatch dweeb

[median spade]

PROPOGANDA IS USELESS

[stray tiger]

You gotta sign up for those Omnitype Happy hour pings

[median spade]

back in my day they were called dixie mech!!

[pastel vigil]

The GMK Nerve IC on GH might interest you

[sacred zealot]

im still pretty new to custom boards, so im learning a lot about what to look for. is there a reason GMK seems to be the standard?

[harsh dove]

Best keycaps

[stray tiger]

I mean thats hard to argue

Ive got Vior and the alt alphas coming next week sometime if the chick will send me a tracking number...

[harsh dove]

Vior looks nice

[median spade]

colors and og cherry profile from cherry themselves as they bought the moulds

[pastel vigil]

They are just high quality keycaps with a lot of custom designs, made in germany.

They are #1 when it comes to legends.

[stray tiger]

Highest quality plastics, top tier machining, and just a very good product from a company who pays good wages

[median spade]

and og tooling from cherry

[harsh dove]

iirc ABS also has a larger color palette than PBT?

[median spade]

very much so

[sacred zealot]

just gotta wait till the 80HE ships. till then ima just sit with my jolly rancher keychron

[pastel vigil]

GMK Pharaoh vs clones

These clones are actually pretty decent too compared to others ive seen

[harsh dove]

That is not a clone, that's a step brother

[pastel vigil]

Step keycap are you stuck?

[harsh dove]

hahah

[pastel vigil]

TX AP flashbacks

[harsh dove]

oof

[vale swan]

😭 whats going on here

[pastel vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-just-hanging-around-gif-6244099902315757809

[sacred zealot]

some questions and some talk about keycaps. with just a git of gamer degeneracy

[solid plume]

Is an O ring needed for the + module and redux case

[pastel vigil]

What do you mean?

[tight hornet]

everglide

[static tendon]

Always coming back with upgrades 😤

[harsh dove]

Thockfather hooked me up

Kitty Kat Keycaps Goated

[static tendon]

Sure are

I recently pre ordered the real GMK Vaporwave set, I'm excited to get it

[harsh dove]

Get me the GMK Symbiote while you're at it

with the Membrane extras

[solid plume]

The sylicon rings that come with the + module is that for the burger mount?

Or do I have to order them seperately

[harsh dove]

Kind of, you place them on the case standoffs

[solid plume]

where do the burger mounts go?

[harsh dove]

you make a sandwich with them between the screw and pcb

[solid plume]

Ok so I have to order more sylicone rings?

You guys are gonna get a crap ton of questions from me as I do this next week. lol

[harsh dove]

This is burger mount

[solid plume]

First keyboard mod for me

Thanks @harsh dove

[harsh dove]

https://youtu.be/tlPX6gYSxyU?si=NhfYQ-R2ItC3JgeI

https://youtu.be/igy_n3f7VeI?si=A4mH52ff-R7JIKHh

[harsh dove]

Also check out #🪛│modding_faq

[solid plume]

Thanks bro.

[harsh dove]

No problem, feel free to ask plenty of questions here, people are happy to help

[inland sparrow]

would the Geonworks Raptor HE work on the 80 HE ? anyone have any experience in this, never modded before

[harsh dove]

99.9% likely

[agile grove]

most likely, however the magnet is too strong and saturates the sensors too quickly (on current wooting boards).

[inland sparrow]

ooooo ok thanks guys

can explain the magnet thingy, dont get that

[agile grove]

pretty much the keys might actuate too quickly or too soon

[inland sparrow]

ahhh

but i thought youre able to set it

so would the magnet still affect ?

[agile grove]

yes, because the magnet is too strong actuation won’t be as accurate (more sensitive than what it’s set to)

imo raptors sound too close to lekkers so I don’t really see the appeal

[inland sparrow]

oh the heck i just saw the faq, theres a post for it hahhahaha

just looks cool and play a bunch of competitive fps, the more advantages i can get the better

[agile grove]

you won’t gain any advantage from different switches

[solid plume]

so the o rings that come with the + module are totally separate then the two o rings placed between the plate and module?

[harsh dove]

I'd honestly just wait till you try the Lekker V2s that come with the 80HE and then decide if you want different switches

[inland sparrow]

cool thanks for the info

[rough trellis]

Do I need to flip my switches with XDA keycaps?

[hidden locust]

will a burger mount affect the performance of the 60he? since it requires a precise distance?

[wind karma]

you may gain an advantage technically if you like the feel of the switches better

even if the performance isn’t any different if i like the feel i tend to play better but maybe that’s just me

[pastel vigil]

https://www.deskhero.ca/products/gmk-pharaoh-d60lite-keyboard-kit-extras?_pos=3&_fid=20bc6295e&_ss=c&variant=39471805530178

Any insight on whether this would fit the wooting? Which layout?

[vale swan]

no modding this will not fuck with performance

[devout torrent]

No this case is gasket mount

So you’d need a custom plate at the very least to make it fit

https://www.reddit.com/r/WootingKB/comments/159oybs/gummy_oring_gasket_hybrid_wkl_wooting_60he/

This guy gummy oring fit into one so maybe it’ll work

[pastel vigil]

ty for the info

never done a gasket mount so not feeling too confident in messing about with one

[latent fern]

WKL 60% look soo good

[fringe quarry]

Lets demand a black pc plate for 80he guys :D

[untold wigeon]

cant go wrong with ks20u

[hexed flume]

A little bit of filing on the plate for the TX AP stabs and I was able to successfully gummy o-ring mount the module into the Freebird60 case

I need to tweak the Enter and right Shift stabs slightly and there's the slightest ticking, but the overall sound of the board is way more consistent

[still wraith]

Are the keychron coiled cables any good?

[polar iris]

ive heard you cant use tachyon with them

[little glen]

@mystic pumice i got the keycaps in, seem very good quality, nice packaging and they look great on my keyboard

(Ignore the accents those are from something else)

Here‘s a pic of how they came, there‘s a layer above and this has 2 layers also, so nordic and some extra keycaps are underneath

All comes in a box

[wind karma]

which keycaps are these?

[little glen]

gmk NorDe with gmk dualshot 2 accents

[wind karma]

nice!

[pastel vigil]

I spy a new plate

[vale swan]

thats not a wooting

[harsh dove]

Rose Gold Aluminum

[harsh dove]

Hehe

[vale swan]

find it funny you used the module stabs for this

[harsh dove]

Lmao

And the alumaze

[vale swan]

i have a salvation pcb around too but no switches to solder on to

i mean i have tealios and gat blacks that are free to put on but i wont do that

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[vale swan]

i need stabs and i will most likely go for HMX switches

i have the tofu alumaze and salvation, alumaze is useless in every scenario for me

[vale swan]

are those aqua kings in there?

[harsh dove]

https://divinikey.com/products/tecsee-ice-candy-linear-switches

[pastel vigil]

Once the novelty of the accent bar wore off I find myself just not vibing with it at all so I sold it. I sold the pcb that came with the prebuilt and put the module pcb in the stock plastic case until the tofu comes

[vale swan]

for me it was the sound

it sounds so thin

i like the looks over the tofu

but the sound is way inferior

[pastel vigil]

ngl I hated that it was ever so slightly wider than a 60 lmao it drove me nuts trying to line it up with the wristpad

But I agree, the sound was not there

[vale swan]

if it had a brass weight it'd been perfect

[spiral anvil]

Finally

[drifting bronze]

What is the best case for the wooting 60 he

To buy

[pastel vigil]

Fjell

It's just preference, whatever is compatible and strikes your fancy.

[heady terrace]

does the pc plate not affect performance on the wooting?

[pastel vigil]

Nope.

[drifting bronze]

Becouse I like the tofu but I don't know where to get it

[pastel vigil]

Ali Express

[drifting bronze]

And is the wooting aluminium case worth it

[agile grove]

fjell is mid

[agile grove]

preference. I'd say its a great quality case for the price.

[pastel vigil]

I just said it jokingly because it's the most expensive one I could think off.

[pastel vigil]

If you like it, sure.

[agile grove]

oh gotcha

[drifting bronze]

I don't like the hook for the strap

And the tofu is clean but I can't purchase it from AliExpress becouse I need to pay really much shipping costs

[pastel vigil]

Get a tofu redux

[agile grove]

check kbdfans offical resellers

[pastel vigil]

Klippe T

Freebird60

Bunch of 60 cases to look at

Just get whatever you feel like is worth the money. They're all gonna have shipping fees most likely.

Tofu off ali epxress is the same price if not cheaper than alumaze from wooting once you factor in taxes and shipping

thats including the brass weight

[drifting bronze]

Ah ok and how much does the tofu go for

[agile grove]

60 usd

shipping on kbdfans is really pricy tho so its closer to $85 with shipping

however if you can find a reseller in your area you can get way better shipping prices

[drifting bronze]

And do you know where.u can get a pbt keycaps set in iso french layout

What is the sound profile of the new aluminium case from wooting

[pastel vigil]

Thats why i suggested ali express

[indigo oasis]

does optipoint switches fit in a wooting 60he

[velvet egret]

Anyone know if there is any sale on ks20u (peaches)? I don't wanna spend 70+Euros on them ( also dont need them but if its possible to get them cheap why not :p)

[agile grove]

no, they dont work since they're optical

[void hollow]

best sounding thocc switch?

[agile grove]

ks-20us probably

[void hollow]

are those the new switches?

[agile grove]

you can usually get ks-20us for cheap on ali

[agile grove]

the newish gateron dual rail switches

[void hollow]

those feel and sound even better than the magnetic jades?

[velvet egret]

Really? I could only find one on ali and those were 70euros

You happen to have a link?

[agile grove]

I dont know if they feel better, just different ig

they dont have the bottom out feel of the jades

and a bit less wobble

[void hollow]

damn haha its been quite some time since ive been here

has wooting had any updates on the newer lekker switches?

[agile grove]

tighter tolerences pretty much

[elfin garnet]

How are you liking the Fjell for the wooting? I'm considering swapping from Alumaze to the Fjell. I built a wooting in Tofu case and the sound was so much better than the Alumaze. I'm just tired of the Tofu look so I want to try the Fjell. It looks premium and I'm from Norway so shipping won't cost me much.

[pastel vigil]

I don't have a Fjell, was just joking because it's expensive.

I think it looks sick and is a great case though. On sale atm too

[elfin garnet]

Ye I like the inclined lines around the case. What are you using?

[stray tiger]

Fjell is an awesome case. One of the best sounding tray mount cases for the 60HE.

[elfin garnet]

good to know. Gonna grab one as soon as black is back in stock on the norwegian store

[stray tiger]

There are some negatives though. 1. Price, 2. Typing angle/height

[pastel vigil]

I've tried a few and I still prefer the plastic case to be perfectly honest

i have a tofu on the way

[elfin garnet]

Im using the long feet on the alumaze and Im used to tofu. Is the angle steeper than those?

[pastel vigil]

Yes.

Its 8 or 8.5

[elfin garnet]

I've tried the alu tofu and the acrylic one. Both with the weight. I think the acrylic one is great for sound

[pastel vigil]

Thats exactly what I have coming, an Acrylic with the brass weight

[elfin garnet]

oh wow 😮

[harsh dove]

If I buy an Fjell, it’d have to be the silver or ultra forest

Likely silver

[random python]

Guys anyone know a good shop for switches in Spain/Europe? I need ISO Spanish keycaps good quality

[velvet egret]

Check https://eloquentclicks.com/ They are a shop in spain. It's the first one that comes to mind.

[glossy pagoda]

Oh hey these folks were at ClackyCon today

They gave out Spanish chocolates 🤩

[velvet egret]

That's cool. Wish i was able to come.. meet some people

[velvet egret]

pfff Belgium choclates is where its at mark

[glossy pagoda]

Okay but I can get that any time

Although I guess I could get Spanish chocolates any time too, I'm sure they're in some store locally somewhere

But I don't really buy chocolate... Except Easter eggs

[velvet egret]

same here tbh i only eat when my gf buys some and she mostly buys the kinder eggs xD

[pastel vigil]

We can almost buy everything we could think of online. What a time to be alive.

[velvet egret]

^ That also depends on your place of residence

[pastel vigil]

Yes and no. With enough money, you can almost get anything sent anywhere. Lots of roundabout ways to go about achieving that. When I used to live in the Middle East I used to rent an address in New York and I had an online shopping credit card with that as the billing address so I could order things over there and then I had a separate shipping agency set to go check the mailbox and forward me any items rarely had issues. It's only items that the local country banned that I couldn't import over, such as a Katana.

Only real hurdle is laws affecting specific items for import and export, but even those can have loopholes. I had a few contacts at customs and they let some banned books slide one time.

[velvet egret]

Valid point, with enough money you could do anything. unless it's illegal.

[pastel vigil]

Yeah like a few hundred years ago, you just couldn't order chocolate from Europe on a whim.

[velvet egret]

i wouldn't know xD

[stray tiger]

Dont start digging in to the Nestle conspiracy theories!

[magic steeple]

the color is awesome!

[marsh saffron]

Now now, with enough money anything can be legal

[solid plume]

Anyone know how long KBD takes to ship your case out from the date of order. I ordered my case April 4 and still have no tracking info.

Side note my + module will be here April 9th LFGGGGG

[eager lintel]

orderes all stuff for modding my wooting

so hype for finishing it

[stray tiger]

The 4th for you was likely the 5th for them and now its the weekend. No idea how long but itll be a while coming from China

[indigo spade]

Is it possible to get the black pc plate with the 60he module, or does it only come with the white one?

[polar girder]

Only white

Have to buy black separate for now

[indigo spade]

Alright, thank you.

[pastel vigil]

If you order the black one with the module its 50% off

[harsh dove]

4090 STRIX Teardown pics for anyone curious

[pastel vigil]

More dust than I expected

[harsh dove]

It’s been almost a year I think

[pastel vigil]

Are you gonna gummy 0 ring mount it

😂

[harsh dove]

Yes

[pastel vigil]

Wack

Such a pretty card

If it wasnt so huge id have gotten it over FE

[harsh dove]

Tbh I wish they did all chrome instead of red n blue like they did on the white version

[pastel vigil]

Assuming stock was available

[indigo saddle]

Hey all, total keyboard noob here when it comes to modding. I’m looking to swap out the keycaps on my 60HE I was just wondering what are the requirements for the new keys in order for it to properly fit on the keyboard? Just make sure it’s a 60% with figment for cherry mx stems?

[pastel vigil]

I agree

[pastel vigil]

Cherry stems, thats about it

[harsh dove]

But mines horizontal anyway so don’t see it

[indigo saddle]

Gracias 🙏

[brazen sparrow]

True…

[wanton blaze]

Anyone got ceramic keycaps on their wooting with Jades?

[solid plume]

This is my home. @harsh dove

3080ti vision

[pastel vigil]

I would slam my leg so many times with that middle support lol

[solid plume]

Ehhh you get used to it. The foot rest manages to keep me sane

but that keyboard is the g915 too

Tkl

Also don’t mind the spit bottles 😂😂😂

I chew tobacco a lot

[pastel vigil]

What cables are you using? First time seeing RGB cables like that

[harsh dove]

Lian li Strimer V2 cables

[solid plume]

Lian Li Strinmer cables

^

They were a bitch to fit in the case

On the backside of the case

Case is from phantekz cooler is a eisbear 360mm (xidax) I sourced through fb marketplace

[solid plume]

Ihy

That is SOOOOOOO CLEAN

[harsh dove]

Eh tryna change it up soon

Thanks tho

[solid plume]

What light bars are those

[harsh dove]

Govee

[solid plume]

I was thinking of doing wood paneling behind my desk and putting up my Lego F1 sets side by side

[harsh dove]

That’d be cool

[solid plume]

But those govee lights are clean

What do you stream?

[harsh dove]

Rn just keyboard stuff sometimes

[solid plume]

Awesome dude. Love the minimalistic look and feel

[harsh dove]

Thanks, I’m trying to go even more minimal and also get a wood top desk

Mount the main monitor

Etc

[stray tiger]

So this is why all of your photos have a red tint

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/alvin-and-the-chipmunks-alvin-whoops-my-bad-oops-gif-15512287650458333097

There

No red

[solid plume]

Ok stop showing off

[pastel vigil]

What about wooting yellow

[solid plume]

“Alexa, woo-tang clan”

[elfin garnet]

Dont understand how u guys are playing with your monitor so far back.. well, that's if you're playing FPS games that is

[pastel vigil]

They are pretty big monitors.

When I used to play on a 23" I used to stick my face to the screen but on the 27" I can maintain a reasonable distance. I imagine I would put even roe distance if it was a larger monitor so I can see it all

[fluid ravine]

Cammmmm
Stop flexinggg

[brazen sparrow]

DAYUM

[tribal pumice]

what's the difference between tofu60 redux and the reg tofu60

As im on kbdfans and they have 2 different options

[pastel vigil]

The tofu redux is what you should check out

It's compatible with the wooting

[fluid ravine]

You should be buying the tofu60 redux

the tofu60 v1 (original) is discontinued

[mild lynx]

does jade make the actuation point feel higher?

feels like .2 instead of .5 for me

and wootility shows .5

[stray tiger]

Be sure you are using the latest beta firmware

[mild lynx]

yeah i used the one in modding-faq

[vale swan]

does it have the option to change switches in wootility or is this still something thats coming?

[pastel vigil]

What do you ya'll think of the stabs? right shift and enter I can still hear a bit of rattling and they feel a bit sluggish, but the rest seem fine to me, thoughts?

[vale swan]

ima listen to them in heapdhones too but on phone speakers only the spacebar sounds sorta good to me

are you using lekkers?

[pastel vigil]

Atm I have Raptors on, normally jades but those are being spring swapped atm

Space bar by far sounds the best I agree, I am proud of that one lmao

[vale swan]

these open backed switches from what i've seen don't really deliver consistent spacebars

before you fuck with the stabs put a jade in all of them and see how it does

[pastel vigil]

aight

[vale swan]

50% of my stab issues were from switches rattling

not the actual stab

on HE that is

the spacebar on phone speakers atleast seems good actually

also try it on a 3mm cloth mousepad or keebmat, on my desk directly my salvation doesnt deliver a consistent spacebar but on the mousepad it does

could be the issue with the other stabs too

@pastel vigil

[pastel vigil]

Sounds better

[vale swan]

the backspace still isnt my favorite but ye thats much better

[pastel vigil]

And whats funny is that it doesnt feel slugish either. Jades really are goated

[vale swan]

with the plastic case on the desk you hear a lot more of the desk

[pastel vigil]

Left side of the backspace i think i might inject a bit more grese and lube the housing

[vale swan]

i have the same issue with my backspace, i could never really get a good backspace in any config

[pastel vigil]

hopefully that works because am too lazy to take the entire thing apart

[vale swan]

tho the worst i had was in the plastic case

are you using tray mount or o ring

[pastel vigil]

it being in the corner really amplifies any imperfections

[vale swan]

yeah thats what i was thinking

[pastel vigil]

Normally o ring, but am tray mounting with the raptors because the lack of a closed bottom fucks with me

[vale swan]

i see

[pastel vigil]

So I need that stiffness to know I've bottomed out

[vale swan]

tray vs o ring isnt really a difference for stabs in my experience

[pastel vigil]

idk if that makes sense it just feels weird not using jades with o ring

[vale swan]

i mean if you stem swap the raptors

at that point both are good switches

thockfather did a comparison and the stem swap raptors/KS20U are the deepest while the Jades are the highest pitched

[pastel vigil]

Still is an open bottom, so I am probably sticking with Jades until other closed bottom HE switches come out

[vale swan]

i dont mind gaming on open bottoms as its kinda nice to have something quieter(my config rn is very loud) but for typing nah

[pastel vigil]

Yeah it's unfortunate because I hate how jades sound but they feel too good.

[vale swan]

lubing them makes them deeper btw

[pastel vigil]

Yeah ive lubed mine

Also swapping out with a longer stem makes them deeper too

[vale swan]

longer stem?

i thought all the HE stems are the same

[pastel vigil]

Sorry, I meant springs.

[vale swan]

ah

[pastel vigil]

Using the 18mm springs instead of the stock 15ish really made a difference. I'm guessing its the extra mass.

[vale swan]

could be

[pastel vigil]

I have some 22mms on the way so I am curious to see how those will sound.

[fluid ravine]

spacebar sounds good

[pastel vigil]

Stock vs spring swapped. Unlubed, this is old.

[pastel vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/no-really-dog-stares-cant-be-serious-funny-dog-gif-2966939698439169510

[vale swan]

ye the jade spacebar is insane dude

[fluid ravine]

fr

someone send me one jade switch

[vale swan]

in any config the spacebar slaps with this except for maybe o ring/try pc plate

[fluid ravine]

:D

[vale swan]

i have 9 left

tho they are not in a good condition

[fluid ravine]

wdym

[pastel vigil]

Where you at? Pay shipping ill send you one lol

[vale swan]

some are overlubed some are opened as i cleaned them

shit like that

[fluid ravine]

i hab no money :D

[vale swan]

tried a lot with those i had left

[fluid ravine]

US

in the cowboy state

[pastel vigil]

Ill ask the post office if I can send a bubble mailer over to you

[fluid ravine]

:D

[pastel vigil]

its like a few bucks in Canada

[fluid ravine]

bubbless

[pastel vigil]

not sure how much to yeehaw town but well see

[vale swan]

the jade spacebar will overpower your alphas so keep that in mind, its way higher pitched than your modded lekkers @fluid ravine

[pastel vigil]

To balance thock vs clack, have 50/50 alphas

The cursed typing experience

[fluid ravine]

im aware :D

[fringe meteor]

oh huh, there's a revamped 60HE PCB with PCB mounted stabilizers? That's interesting

i know i'm a sicko but i'd miss the steel plate, i guess

[vale swan]

carbon fiber is better than steel

[fringe meteor]

i like the sound of steel

[vale swan]

you're not the steel plate was the best in the stock case

[fringe meteor]

reminds me of old typewriters

[vale swan]

this is for alu cases

[fringe meteor]

i put mine in a glass case so that's all a wash for me :)

[vale swan]

just buy the 60he+ and use the steel plate

easy

[fringe meteor]

yeah, i could do that, i assume there's no interference because of the stabilizers

[vale swan]

there isnt

with the stock stabs durocks and cherry that is

[fringe meteor]

yeah, i'd be using cherry style

[vale swan]

glass case?

[fringe meteor]

yeah

[vale swan]

for the 60he?

mind showing>

[fringe meteor]

it's one of these

https://www.helheim.design/products/baldr60

one moment, i'll take a pic

[vale swan]

wow

they thought to remove the standoffs

it looks like a tofu which is hilarious too

thats quite nice

[fringe meteor]

yeah i took the standoffs off on mine, it's vaguely o-ring mounted

with some silicone bottom mounts

[vale swan]

sounds interesting

glass is a dangerous material for me so idk if i'd main that

you should do a sound test of it tho for sure

[vale swan]

thats nice

those sharp corners being glass too I imagine can be quite painful if you run your finger on those

[fringe meteor]

i don't find it too bad but it's definitely sharp

[vale swan]

i know the pain because i hurt my fingers on the alu tofus

this would be even worse

[pastel vigil]

Ive been waiting for this to restock forever

[fringe meteor]

damn, yeah

[vale swan]

i'd def pick this over a tofu redux just off looks alone

i wonder how heavy it is

[fringe meteor]

i could weigh it

[vale swan]

sure

my salvation 60he is 1.65kg fully built

[fringe meteor]

this is not a super clean recording, it's not this... hollow? Rattling? It's just my vocal mic pointed down at the keyboard with the gain cranked hard, so imagine this but like the sharp stuff isn't actually audible

(the first clicks are my mouse for comparison)

[vale swan]

those sound like lekkers

[fringe meteor]

yeah i don't like the springs :(

[vale swan]

its not the springs fault

its the switch tolerance

buy gateron jades

or ks20 dual rails

will sound much better

even stock

[fringe meteor]

i still don't like the springs, haha

the Wooting is 1.7kg with the glass case

(the Sonnet, visible above it in the photo, is a chonker at 3.2kg)

[vale swan]

wow

[fringe meteor]

hm, are the jades that much better? Maybe i should try them

[vale swan]

its heavier than a tofu or a salvation with brass weights

[vale swan]

yes

[fringe meteor]

yeah, glass is heavy

[vale swan]

they are closed backed long pole HE switches

they will be higher pitched too tho

[fringe meteor]

interesting

actually this channel probably has some good suggestions on this: i like heavier, longer springs. The lekker switches are kinda the opposite of my preference there--are there any aftermarket springs out there that actually work with these things?

[vale swan]

ask @pastel vigil and wooting will make their own spring pack

with heavier springs

[fringe meteor]

well i mean, i know they're out there but like... out there in a reasonable way to get them

[vale swan]

ask him as he has tried longer springs

[fringe meteor]

i dunno if they're going to make a spring pack just for me, haha

ahhh, interesting

[vale swan]

idk if they'll have longer springs but heavier they will

[fringe meteor]

are there problems with long springs with these switches?

[vale swan]

not sure ask him as i didnt try them myself

[fringe meteor]

fair enough

[vale swan]

the jades are lighter than the lekkers

30/37-50 instead of 40-60

[fringe meteor]

yeah, i noticed that... i could swap the springs between switches though, right?

[vale swan]

yes

[fringe meteor]

interesting

i guess it messes with the sensing or something?

[vale swan]

not rlly

[pastel vigil]

As far as I know, there are only two options right now. 18mm https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006335105764.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.46.16851802CQEZkC or 22mm https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006583637812.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.631f38daL9wGhP&mp=1

Since the jades are long poles, that makes them feel softer even if you use the same springs as the lekkers.

but that could be placebo, it's very minor.

[fringe meteor]

ah hah, thanks :o

[pastel vigil]

I tried 18mm 70g in jades, doing 22mm 62g next and getting some samples for all the rest. Language barrier was tough but I arranged that with the seller.

[fringe meteor]

yeah

[solid plume]

@pastel vigil should I lube my jades as well?

My switches just came in last night

[fringe meteor]

that's an interesting question

[solid plume]

The only part of my keyboard that I received lol

[pastel vigil]

Not really necessary, but if you have the time/energy for it, it's worth it.

I would suggest just lubing a couple and seeing if you like how they feel/sound after.

[solid plume]

Ok so here is my final question

Aside from the lube, do I have to purchase separate o rings for the burger mount

And maybe the gummy ring for around the module?

[pastel vigil]

If you gummy o ring mount then you don't need to burger mount

Which is better is purely preference, you'd just have to try and see how it feels.

Wooting module includes the o rings needed for burger mount i'm pretty sure. Wooting has a video on it you can look up to confirm that

[solid plume]

They have 8 o rings in the module I believe, so they are for the burger mount?

from a video I saw

[pastel vigil]

I wouldn't know because I never tried to Burger Mount.

[vale swan]

test them out first

[vale swan]

brass weight not brass plate

huge difference

[pastel vigil]

Good catch. I hope that's just a typo.

[vale swan]

im good at picking these differences up

[vale swan]

they arent really o rings

the kbdfans standoff protection things do more to dampen the tray mount stiffness compared to what wooting provides

if you wanna gummy o ring mount get cherry clips in and a normal o ring or get the graveshift s size for screw ins

[latent fern]

i got the gummy o-ring and was disappointed in the sound tbh

tray mount with the wooting silicon pcb sticker things sounded the best to me

[untold wigeon]

wooting silicon pcb sticker? what is that?

[latent fern]

a sheet of like flat silcone/rubber rings came with my wooting module and i put them on my case standoffs

i’m also trying this with the silicon ring stickers cuz why not

i had left over EVA foam switch pads and cut them to stick into my case standoffs

[vale swan]

just a friendly tip i would not use all the standoffs

if you screw all those bitches in it will legit feel like you type on cement

[latent fern]

does it make a difference? i feel like theres no flex in the pcb+plate regardless so not using a standoff wouldnt provide any flex

ill try it out in the future tho

[vale swan]

its not abt flex

its about the bottom out and also the hotpoints

the spacebar is awful with the screw next to it in

also why the tape on the bottom of the tofu? what purpose does it solve

[latent fern]

i filled the brass weight cavity with steel weights and i used the tape to seal it in place

[vale swan]

ah ok

[latent fern]

i decided to just cover the whole bottom of the case while i was at it

[vale swan]

that makes more sense yeah

[latent fern]

the dude the invented the Tempest tape mod also did this to his personal board and said it reduces metallic case ping

[vale swan]

i see

try removing the center and the spacebar standoff, you should get a better sounding keyboard

[latent fern]

https://youtu.be/4T8Ov74i4m0?si=uZO9aAizy39XuHDV

you can see his board in this video

[latent fern]

ill definitely try this

[vale swan]

i need to make my own mod

[latent fern]

im pretty happy with how my wooting sounds rn tho

[vale swan]

thats good

[latent fern]

jades are a huge sound upgrade

[vale swan]

thats all that matters

[latent fern]

the only thing left is to spring swap the jades

[vale swan]

i didnt really mind the jades in the tofu even in tray mount but I wanted something softer and less hotpoints

its definitely the best budget case for this

you can do so much with the tofu modding wise too

[latent fern]

this was my main reason for getting it

[latent fern]

do i remove the whole standoff or just not put screws?

[vale swan]

just remove it with your hands

if you leave it there and not screw it in i found it to actually create hollowness on my side

either way im glad you found a config that you like

[latent fern]

okay i removed them

it does sound better haha

thanks for the advice

the G and H keys always sounded a little different and it was defintely because of the standoff

and the spacebar sounds softer and deeper

now i only need to unscrew 4 screws to rebuild (:

[vale swan]

i actually only screw in 2 screws for tray mount you could try that too

2 at top or 2 at the bottom

[latent fern]

what config do you have on your wooting? @vale swan

[indigo sierra]

How much should i expect to pay for a decent sounding and feeling Wooting 60HE+ set?

Note this would be my first ever quality keyboard build coming from a cheap mx red amazon keyboard / razer black widow.

[vale swan]

salvation carbon fiber plate lubed jades tape mod 1 layer and gmk

[latent fern]

do the leaf springs make the wooting bouncy?

[vale swan]

yeah

its very soft

with the pc plate it is insanely soft

even with the carbon plate its soft but not as soft as that

this is not the one if you are looking for a lower pitch tho

the salvation is high pitched

[solid plume]

@doc have a link for Amazon for silicon o rings

?

Or a specific size @vale swan

[vale swan]

no

[silver pecan]

bro

thats been the issue this whole time

i was like theres no way this kb sounds this dogshit and i just accepted it

turns out i was screwing it more than i needed too, and that really messes up the sound

sounds way better now

[indigo sierra]

Hey wooting modding people. Where can I find sound tests (mainly for ks20u and jades)?

[glacial wind]

oh it's in pins actually for this channel

[indigo sierra]

Okay thanks

How do i go on about finding the right keycaps?

[glacial wind]

Sky is the limit. Keycaps come in a million colors and options

decide on if you want pbt or abs for plastic. Then have a look at the various keyboard websites for sets that fit your look

[indigo sierra]

Quick question does the module come with a cable

[glacial wind]

yeah it does

[spiral anvil]

Durock v3 stabs work

Yipeee

[indigo sierra]

Do you usually end up paying duty ordering from kbdfans as a european?

[glossy pagoda]

I am almost certain the answer is yes

[elfin garnet]

As an european I can confirm (I live in Norway)

[hot raven]

yo nice keycaps

[spiral anvil]

Thanks

[indigo spade]

I want to build the 60+ module with Jade switches and read that there might be problems with the stock stabilizers. Now i wanted to get the pcb mount tx ap long pole stabilizers, are there still compatibility issues with the newest version?

[glacial wind]

It's an isolated thing that happens if you have particularly cheap/loose keycaps, but if it occurs people just throw in a cheap sub $5 stem spacer or o-ring and it's fixed

tldr you don't need different stabs and in the very rare instance where it happens the fix is very cheap (you don't need to replace the stabs)

[indigo spade]

Thank you, than i will safe my money and stay with the stock ones.

[cedar gate]

For gatreon jades is pc plate or FR4 Plate better (or og steel) and silicone or foam plate inserts better

[harsh dove]

Better is defined by your ears only

However I can tell you that if you want a deeper sound, then foam insert and a PC plate will help with that

Otherwise the latter will have a less deep sound

[indigo spade]

I ordered the additional black pc plate and use the foam i think. Will use it with a tofu redux + brass weight.

[vale swan]

if you want deep sound do tofu o ring and use the module foam(if you have one) if not polyfill with pc plate

i tested steel fr4 pc and cf with jades(lekkers suck on all of them so i wont mention it)

PC is by far the quietest and softest
FR4 is higher pitched
CF is the 2nd loudest and highest pitched
Steel is way too mentallic outside of the plastic case with any switch imo and too loud

[harsh dove]

I use FR4 currently , but I want to test out my Aluminum and POM plates again

[vale swan]

POM would be interesting

but i think alu is way too much with jades in the salvation

i hated the PC spacebar so maybe POM could change that for me

[vale swan]

what was your problem with the aluminum b4?

[harsh dove]

I didn’t like the sound with jades

But ima try again

[vale swan]

too loud? metallic

[harsh dove]

I don’t remember

[vale swan]

well what you should do is try it with the KS20Us

[harsh dove]

That’s why I’m trying again

[vale swan]

who knows

it could be a banger

[indigo spade]

Are there any compatible fr4 plates for iso layout? And for the stem spacers, which o-rings can i use? Because the geon stem spacers are 24 Euros of shipping and taxes to Germany everywhere, so i think thats no option.

[short nexus]

What’s the different between 45l and 60l

[vale swan]

why do you want stem spacers

[indigo spade]

Just in case, if i get problems with my jades and the stock stabilizers

[vale swan]

what i did was put plastic wrap in the keycap itself to fix mine

i had it just on 1 spacebar tho

1 of my pbtfans spacebar is very loose

[indigo spade]

That would be an easy fix, i think i will try this, if there are problems. Thank you.

[vale swan]

you shouldnt need to do it anyway

i was doing the plastic wrap mod to fix ticking on the stabs but it also helped with the stability

[indigo spade]

Yeah, i hope so.

[vale swan]

you should only really need this if you have like really cheap keycaps

the stock wooting caps or something like GMK will be fine

GMK especially

[indigo spade]

I ordered the wooting pbt caps, so it's okay then

[vale swan]

yeah u will be fine

this whole jade thing doesnt work with stock stabs started because of a guy on reddit who put $10 keycaps on it

this is not first long pole switch to exist, customs have a lot of these and they are all fine with good keycaps

long pole stabs cuz more issues than they fix tbh

[indigo spade]

Yes, i remember my first custom board with speed silver switches had the issue with one keycap set. Another one worked fine

[vale swan]

before you buy extra shit try it first then you work from there

[indigo spade]

Yes, just wanted to ask, which options are the best, if i run into that problem.

[vale swan]

someone should definitely take down that reddit post

[vale swan]

not sure tbh, but i would start with plastic wrap

i have never used a stem spacer so i wouldnt know

[indigo spade]

Sounds the best for me too, cause its hard to get the stem spacers here in Germany.

So thanks for the help, i will wait for my parts now and hope everything fits.

[vale swan]

i wouldnt worry, the stock wooting caps are actually pretty high quality

the spacebar is a little hollow sounding thats the only gripe with it

[harsh dove]

These IceCandys I put on my wilbatech PCB are long pole

And using stock module stabs lol

No issues

[vale swan]

yeah

tho cannonkeys are good keycaps

this whole thing started because someone used like cheap aura keycaps

so they basically downgraded the stock keycaps to those

im gonna say it again if you are going to upgrade the stock keycaps cannonkeys dcx pbtfans or gmk are really the only way to go. As for RGB caps there arent any better than these

[cedar gate]

This was super helpful but wbt the plate inserts

Silicone or foam

[vale swan]

silicone does not work with o ring

as for foam all it does is quieten it down a bit compared to no foam

[harsh dove]

I’m anti-foam

[vale swan]

the pitch doesnt really change compared to nothing at all

[vale swan]

same

[harsh dove]

I prefer nothing between plate and PCB

[vale swan]

yeah

[cedar gate]

Alright I'm playing val and don't wanna hear my keyboard through my open back headphones

[vale swan]

i only really use case foam

[cedar gate]

So I will do foam ig

[vale swan]

i dont hear mine at all tho i am cranking the music up

[vale swan]

its not the biggest difference and with the foam its a bit harder to get it in and out if you do o ring

i'd say first try no foam

[cedar gate]

Naw I'm at esports lvl so I keep music off to track footsteps

[vale swan]

if u do o ring

[cedar gate]

I'm planning to do burger mount

[vale swan]

if u dont do o ring i'd probably go for the silicone pad as i actually kinda liked it

burger mount is basically tray mount but a little quieter

[harsh dove]

Add foam then

[vale swan]

o ring is way way quieter

ye for burger mount i'd just foam it up

if u have jades also lube them especially around the bottom of the spring

[cedar gate]

Wdym o ring like one on each key

[vale swan]

no

gummy o ring

[harsh dove]

And lube the top housing

[cedar gate]

Oooh

[vale swan]

friction mount basically

[cedar gate]

Like those huge rings

[harsh dove]

Yeah

https://graveshift.com/products/graveshift-m-o-rings

[vale swan]

i usually prefer doing just the stem i tried the top housing on some and it kinda ruined them a bit but i maybe i applied a bit too much lube

[vale swan]

or s size if you have the module and dont wanna change stabs

[harsh dove]

Yeah, just helps reduce the return clack if you don’t like that sound

[vale swan]

i dont like it either

[harsh dove]

It doesn’t bother me but I added some anyway

[vale swan]

but ig i kinda have to live with it

i think a harsh top out makes it sound cheap

[harsh dove]

Jades are nice factory lubed but even nicer hand lubed

[vale swan]

yeah the factory lube is ight if u dont mind some spring ping

[harsh dove]

Yeah

Cause PC top housing

[vale swan]

they are definitely louder stock than lubed tho

i'd like to see some cherry mx blacks or nixxes in an HE form

i think the cherry scratch would work nicely here

or maybe some gat inks or oil king style

[cedar gate]

Imna lube the jades swap to a tofu (maybe use pbtfans keys for cherry profile) do either burger mount or o ring mount because I don't wanna make it too quiet use a pc plate with foam maybe a coiled cable

Is that all good?

[wind karma]

are PC plates the deepest sounding

[harsh dove]

I’d do gummy mount in the tofu but up to you

[vale swan]

its either PC or POM or PP

[vale swan]

i would do o ring if you want absolutely quiet and also not to have the keyboard feel like a cement block

o ring in this isnt as good like a proper o ring mount or a salvation or an arc60 or w/e but yeah

[cedar gate]

PP?

[vale swan]

its a sort of plastic

polypryplene or w/e its called

its softer than polycarb

[cedar gate]

I want my keyboard to not sound hollow at all but still have a sound and I'm worried that o ring mount will not have any noticeable sound

I want it quiet not silent

[vale swan]

its not gonna be silent

its just gonna be quieter

also more consistent row to row

[cedar gate]

Alright I think badseed tech did a comparison imna watch that and find out which one is for me

[vale swan]

well he used lekkers

and his sound tests are very edited

in his video all the plates pretty much sound the same which is not reality even with lekkers

you will never get your keyboard to sound like those sound tests

there are also variables like how thick your desk is, how empty your room is and if you a mousepad or deskpad under it

[cedar gate]

Yeah I think I may wanna use gummy o rings

[harsh dove]

Friction mounting will not make your board silent, it most notably changes the sound of the spacebar but also makes the entire board sound more consistent because you’re not using any screws, which cause dead sound spots near the screws and also make the board feel “stiff”. Friction mounting gives you a softer typing feel and a somewhat “poppier” sound.

[vale swan]

on the pc plate for me it made it quieter than tray and the spacebar didnt really change much but with the carbon fiber it did make it poppier and the spacebar changed it a bit for the better

it does give u a softer typing experience

[cedar gate]

This is what I have so far any mistakes?

[vale swan]

it seems ight just make sure u get the tofu redux with the brass weight

[harsh dove]

Switch foam?

[cedar gate]

Fr sure the weight is essential

[vale swan]

its probably those things you put under the switches like the pe switchpad from kbdfans

[harsh dove]

Oh like switch films

[vale swan]

or switch tripods like badseed did

[vale swan]

nah films are the things u put in the switch, these go on the pcb under the switch

i think thats what he means

if not then i am as clueless as u

[cedar gate]

The thing that comes with tofu60

[harsh dove]

Like the thin liner that comes with the tofu?

[vale swan]

oh that

[harsh dove]

It’s like 0.1mm

Super thin

[vale swan]

it does help a bit tho

i would just use the foam that comes with the module

if you use it with no deskpad that is

[cedar gate]

Yeah I've heard it's better

[vale swan]

its not really better per say

but it does more as a foam

the kbdfans one only helps a little

[harsh dove]

This

[vale swan]

this one does help a lot especially with no deskpad

[vale swan]

that u dont get with the tofu

those come with the kbdfans plates

[harsh dove]

Ah yeah with the CF plate

[vale swan]

but thats what i was talking abt too

[harsh dove]

Couldn’t remember

[vale swan]

this does make it deeper somewhat but i dont really care for it

[harsh dove]

Me either

But it did change the sound weirdly enough

[vale swan]

i am kinda like u, for sure no plate foam

ye its supposed to

[harsh dove]

I didn’t expect it to do much

[vale swan]

pe foam changes the sound to make it deeper and foamier

[harsh dove]

Surprised me a bit

[vale swan]

with the lekkers it does fuck all but with these it does make it deeper

more so than the wooting plate foam

which is interesting

idk i am a firm believer that almost everything in the keyboard changes the sound to some degree

i dont believe people like badseed that said that legit all the plates sound relatively the same when even with the lekkers between pc and cf it was a huge difference for me

theres also his mic and shit and that he is a bit older and his hearing is weaker than mine so there is that

well the alumaze sounds kinda thin and metallic, if you want a clackier sound out of it use it under a deskpad and with just the silicone switchpad

if you want higher pitch pc is not the plate for you

i'd go FR4 or Carbon Fiber or Alu

had the same issue myself

look on smkeyboards

[sacred zealot]

im still constantly surprised about how available carbon fiber is now. i remember when it was almost only on cars and stupid expensive

[vale swan]

yeah its a pretty nice material

its almost as high pitched as steel imo for the plate that is but its not metallic

its kinda like having the best of both

[sacred zealot]

i wonder how long itll take to get carbon plates for the 80HE

[vale swan]

kbdfans will probably do them or smkeyboards

tho the 80he will have some foam in it as its not a regular gasket mount

so its gonna limit the sound difference and shit heavily

[sacred zealot]

i just like carbon fiber. im a gamer, im not going to hear the keyboard

[vale swan]

you will with open back headphones or when you are not wearing them

you will def hear it

[sacred zealot]

eh, i guess thats fair.

i dont have open backs, but i guess i do spend a decent bit of time here too.

[vale swan]

carbon fiber

also would recommend jade switches

lekkers are trash

and are deeper sounding

[vale swan]

not sure if they do but in that case pick alu or go on kbdfans's aliexpress store and buy that

do note you need the kbdfans standoff kit to install the smkeyboard ones as they dont have standoffs on

the kbffans plates come with it included

[pastel vigil]

order from their store on ali express

[pastel vigil]

Dont switch foam the jades. It will make them worse.

Actually, I'm not sure if you meant switch foam as in the pad on the PCB that goes under the switches or the films that go inside the switches, but both of those are unnecessary and can cause more issues instead.

[untold wigeon]

open back clears

[cedar gate]

Oh alr the videos I watched said switch foam can help lekkers but does it screw with jades

BTW I meant the sheet that goes under the switches

[pastel vigil]

No harm in trying, but due to the design it's largely unneeded and can present more problems than it solves

[cedar gate]

No I'm not gonna buy switch foam on a budget just as an experiment

But thx if it's gonna make it worse I won't use

[pastel vigil]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005707202157.html#nav-review

Reviews are currently unaivable in my region, can anybody else see them?

[pastel vigil]

Based, ty.

[pastel vigil]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006050178592.html

found a cheap POM plate if you wanna try lol

[vale swan]

i want someone to try for me, i don't wanna take this apart again and carbon fiber is nice on the salvation

also the shipping costs about 70% of the plate price so no thank you

[pastel vigil]

I'm also too lazy for that lmao

[vale swan]

the spacebar will 100% still be ass

[shell inlet]

How often does moon tower get raffled ?

[harsh dove]

Just finished cleaning, gonna try POM and maybe alu again

[vale swan]

yes try it

then try the vibranium plate too

[spiral anvil]

No rattle on the durock v3s

[pastel vigil]

Are these new? I've only seen V2s

[spiral anvil]

Maybe

[spiral anvil]

https://divinikey.com/products/durock-plate-mount-stabilizers

[pastel vigil]

Did you install them stock or did you lube and mod?

[spiral anvil]

Lube but no mods

Didn't need to mod them

I mean you could tailor or holee but I didn't want to cause another too tight issue since the Wooting PCB be funky

[pastel vigil]

Is tailor mod the one where u stick something under the wire?

[spiral anvil]

Nah that's an outdated mod I forgot the name of

[pastel vigil]

Hard to keep up with all these names 😂

[spiral anvil]

Tailor is the one with nylon threads in the housing

[spiral anvil]

Tailor mod is when you thread nylon wires into the housing

To make it tighter

[pastel vigil]

I am convinced a lot of these mods were made by failed surgeons

[spiral anvil]

Or you know

A tailor

[pastel vigil]

Both possible

Lmao

[marsh saffron]

Holee mod is the bandaid one right

I think I did a ghetto version with tape

[pastel vigil]

No.

[marsh saffron]

Which one is holee mod?

[pastel vigil]

Am bad at explaining. But now I worry so is this photo lol

Bandaid mod is putting a bandaid under the stab/on the pcb

Holee mod is putting a strip inside the housing

[marsh saffron]

Oh

I did the bandaid mod but with tape instead

Made a difference on my space bar for sure, holee mod seems a lot more annoying to do

[pastel vigil]

Ye could use anything

[pastel vigil]

It is thats why I joked about surgeons

I do not have that patience 😂😭

[harsh dove]

Thought about it and too tired to do it after cleaning today lol

I’ll do it sometime this week maybe

I’m supposed to also get a new POM plate this week

[strange quarry]

so i just got new keycaps for my two he, with jades and tx ap long pole stabs the new spacebar is super sluggish and doesn't return fully, but different stabs work fine

[eager hearth]

yo guys, im looking for some input should i go for alumaze or klippe T which one is the better quality / sounds the best (they are both around the same price with delivery)

[split dagger]

Anyone know some nice cases I wanna build my first custom keyboard

[median spade]

Klippe Easily

If you like how it looks

[eager hearth]

is it that much better?

[median spade]

Very dense and not as hollow

[eager hearth]

you're selling me on it

[median spade]

I say tofu redux with weight personally

But idk if that would be more with import or VAT

[eager hearth]

i heard tofu redux is fuckidy cause import

[median spade]

Yeee the one perk us Americans have

[eager hearth]

yeah importing anything above 150 is like 60+ euros

[cedar gate]

Tofu redux or tofu 2.0

Ignoring price just quality I will factor price later

[stray tiger]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[latent fern]

the tofu redux case was designed to be used with wootings so my vote is redux

[stray tiger]

Tofu 2.0 wont work so redux is the only choice

[eager hearth]

bought the klippe t lets see how good its gonna be

[cedar gate]

Thank God I can't afford 2.0

[crystal frost]

about to build two 60HE+ modules what mods should I be worried about doing and which ones are just pointless getting lost in all this stuff.

[stray tiger]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

Mods are done to change something or fix something, not because they need to be done.

[crystal frost]

read through all of this just figured there were maybe some specific mods people tend to do

[stray tiger]

Hand lube your switches and tune your stabs are the main 2 people do. Highly recommended!

[strange quarry]

guess i'm returning em, seem to be incompatible with these spacebars

[pastel vigil]

where did you buy from that lets you return used stabs?

[strange quarry]

i guess it actually doesn't matter because i don't have the original packaging anymore, just reread the return policy

[pastel vigil]

rip

[cedar gate]

I could help u out with the ones I'm doing

And I could give you some options and what they do so you can decide what you need and what you dont

[crystal frost]

im all ears to hear what mods your doing im forsure lubing and tuning my stabs and switches

[cedar gate]

Honestly I would leave the stabs alone

They are really good stock

If you want ig just wipe the lube and re grease but tbh unnecessary unless some of your keys sound inconsistent

[crystal frost]

plan on listening to everything before i do anything besides lubing switches to figure out what i need to do

[cedar gate]

Some factory lubed switches sound great stock btw

But lekker crave lube

[crystal frost]

i bought a set of jades and ks-20's to see what i want to use

[cedar gate]

I would go with jades imo

It sounds great stock but after lubing you get a lot more thock

BTW do you want like a thock or a high pitched clicky

Or just as quiet as possible

[latent fern]

jades get thocky with lube?

[cedar gate]

Imo yeah you can look up a sound test

With and without lube

But imo thocky keyboards sound the best all personal preference but high pitched clicks just sound un intended to me

[crystal frost]

building two keyboards so one will have jades other with have ks-20's but both will be lubed

[cedar gate]

If I were you I would use the jades on the one I'm keeping/for the person I like the most

[cedar gate]

For other mods a tofu60 redux case makes it feel amazingly premium

And I would do a o ring/burger mount depending on how quiet you want it

[crystal frost]

have two redux cases and rings for burger mount aswells

[cedar gate]

Awesome

[cedar gate]

I would also use a wooting polycarbonate plate

For the jades at least

It kinda normalizes the sound and makes it sound less weird

And I would also fr sure use the foam liner that comes with the plate

[stray tiger]

I have a different opinion and preference, preferring the KS-20U over the Jades, as the Jades have a pretty clacky bottom out sound. It's really about preference.

[cedar gate]

Yeah it's all preference I would highly recommend looking up a sound test

Or since you have to build both anyways you can do your own sound test

[crystal frost]

yeah thats why i got both not 100% on which ones i want and just want to test both out myself

[crystal frost]

does wooting sell a polycarb plate for the 60he+? must have missed that on the website

[cedar gate]

Anyways polycarbonate for thock steel for a metallic click and fr4 for a nice hybrid

[cedar gate]

Yes and it's pretty awesome even comes with 2 inserts

[cedar gate]

BTW I would also use this

It can help mute the magnetic sound

[cedar gate]

Keycaps are 100% personal preference but for gaming imo pbt cherry profile is king

I recommend pbtfans on kdbfans

[crystal frost]

where do i get that? and i just ordered two polycarb plates

[cedar gate]

It'll be on kdbfans it might even come with the case but I gt check

[crystal frost]

as far as profile goes these will both be used for work just different offices so i will be using xda profile

ill look into it now thanks for all the help @cedar gate and @stray tiger

[cedar gate]

Wait you got a wooting 60he for work

[crystal frost]

yup lol

[cedar gate]

Are you not aware that it's main purpose is the fact that it's an extremely high performance gaming keyboard

[crystal frost]

yes i am aware this is already have a third for home dont worry

[cedar gate]

At least get a damn two he LOL

It only has like 70 keys

[crystal frost]

already have numbpad

[cedar gate]

I hope you have a func row and arrow keys

And that you aren't using excel ever

BTW even for work I would recommend cherry pbts

Because pbt has amazing durability and cherry you can type longer with less fatigue

[warm helm]

Any of you guys here have some explanation for keycaps? I've been told by a couple people to go after a set of equally price/more expensive keycaps rather than a metal case so I'm sort of confusdd

[cedar gate]

I would highly advise against that

[crystal frost]

i prefer xda not my first keyboard just havent modded any wooting yet so curious to what people have been doing mainly

[cedar gate]

Keycaps are an awesome way to customize and improve your kb but metal case is a much bigger improvement

[warm helm]

Ok, cool

[cedar gate]

Well xda is notoriously form not function it looks better but if you are typing for long periods of time cherry is much more ergonomic

All your preferences tho

[crystal frost]

been using xda for awhile now just dont want to switch i bought a complete board for home loved it so much decided to get two modules for work and make them nice excited to see the results just waiting on my new switches

[cedar gate]

Well yeah it is a bit better for your wrist if it makes you happier with your purchase

But if you get a chance try cherry profile

[median spade]

Why would you buy a 60he for work???

[vale swan]

i'd rather have a custom keyboard for work doesnt matter what layout

[lament grotto]

i love me some xda keycaps too 😄

[crystal frost]

because i already have one for home and i like nice things

[crystal frost]

exactly the keyboards they give us at work feel like punishment lol

[vale swan]

the 60he isnt really nice for work

[crystal frost]

why is that?

[vale swan]

because you dont use any of its features and if you don't its just a bad sounding keyboard and at that point you might as well have a custom for work only

[crystal frost]

the ones im taking to work are modded

?

[median spade]

yeah a proper custom would be better for work tbh

60he is just a tray mounted keyboard otherwise

[crystal frost]

all i want is something better than what they give us im used to a 60% like my wooting and have the money so why not

[vale swan]

its not about the money, it's you can get so much better for the money

[median spade]

yeah 60he is good for gaming and that's it really tbh

typing experience otherwise is meh

[vale swan]

you could've gotten a keychron q2 for example or a q1 v2

[vale swan]

i mean in the salvation with jades its pretty nice but thats pretty expensive

tho idk if you can really classify this is as a tray

[median spade]

i feel like the plate needing to be attatched by screws doesn't give the full salvation experience

[vale swan]

the gasket system on the keychrons are very soft too and have better switches and no hotspots

[vale swan]

well the full salvation experience is plateless

but that is way too much

that is no longer a keyboard its a trampoline

[median spade]

I will say has been funny being in here the past couple months seeing people buy 2-3 60he as it's like being back in 2018 when people were discovering ducky's and pok3r

[vale swan]

ye

[median spade]

like 60he is good but if im going for all day typing I would never use it for that

[crystal frost]

literally have 4 other keyboards but your right lol

came in here to ask about mods for wooting get everyone opinions instead lol

[vale swan]

well its a public chat obviously you are going to get opinions

and the mods themselves are opinions

[crystal frost]

yeah but it doesnt matter ill just use it at work and make everyone mad lol

[vale swan]

i mean ur not gonna make me mad

[crystal frost]

seems like it lol

[median spade]

Yeah I was just saying if you want something nice for work 60he is not it

quite the opposite it is for that in fact imo

[vale swan]

im not sure why we'd be mad that you use your money how you want

we just gave you our opinions

[crystal frost]

exactly

[median spade]

I guess ify ou want that rapid trigger on going through spread sheets faster or something

[vale swan]

so bringing mad into this is a bit weird

[median spade]

but a tray mounted 60% with steel plate is the last thing I would call a good typing experience

[crystal frost]

not weird just very much seemed like yall wanted me to sound wrong

[vale swan]

the q2 iirc has a steel plate too but the gasket system there is much much better

[vale swan]

not rlly no

we just tried guiding u a bit

at the end its kinda ur choice

[vale swan]

forgot about this, but ye do it when you are not tired

i like messing with the keyboard but doing it when you are tired sucks as it will turn into a disaster

[crystal frost]

your so right you should keep talking about it lol

[vale swan]

now who is mad bruh

[median spade]

I can if you want me too

[crystal frost]

i promise you im not angry lol

[median spade]

Can also give options you should have bought instead of 2 more 60he too

[vale swan]

i feel attacked, I owned 2 60he's!!!!

nah im jk, i sold one as soon as i got the module

😭

[crystal frost]

probably already have them lol

[median spade]

Probably don't but it's okay

I'm bored with this already lmao

[vale swan]

its too early in the morning for this

DHL still isnt here with my mousepad and skates

this is just sad at this point

[crystal frost]

you would know right?

this is what im talking about people being mad lol

[vale swan]

I am mad that he is mad that you are mad

does that work for you?

[median spade]

I'm not even mad just can't be bothered after how weird you're being now is all

[vale swan]

^

[median spade]

but anyways have good one im out for the night

[vale swan]

im just trollin

ye gn

n gm to me or well more like bad morning