🔧│keyboard_modding

[vale swan]

i did mine with the thick wooting foam from the module

salvation

with the leaf spring mount

[mystic pumice]

How effective is the bandaid mod for the 60HE?

and is it still possible with the + module?

[vale swan]

the one where you put shit under the stabs?

i'd say it makes them worse

its good for plate mounts tho not on the spacebar

no

plate foam kinda ruins it

gummy o ring is already way quieter with these HE switches

i hated the pc plate for this config too, i used carbon fiber but i prefer louder higher pitched keyboards

if you want to use plate foam do not use the silicone pad

it is impossible to gummy o ring that

even the plate foam is pretty tight

[mystic pumice]

I am using the silicone pad for my + module, but that is only because I wanted to try it out since my non+ module only came with the other one

[vale swan]

the silicone pad is pretty good actually imo

[mystic pumice]

I think I like the sound of the black foam more (because it thocks) than the silicone pad (it mutes a few frequencies and make it a bit more clacky)

[vale swan]

it somehow makes it quieter but also higher pitched

[vale swan]

thats fair all preference

no foam at all is the best to me even in tray mount

no matter the plate(except for steel)

[mystic pumice]

Don't get me wrong I actually really like the silicone pad but I am just a bit more of a thock person

[vale swan]

thats fine

[mystic pumice]

I may switch between them quite often

[vale swan]

ur keyboard

nobody should tell you how to build it

[mystic pumice]

I know

[vale swan]

you build it how you like it

[mystic pumice]

I am just stating that I am surprised how much I like the silicone pad since it sounds a bit different than what I normally go after

[vale swan]

the tofu is pretty versatile for modding tbh

[mystic pumice]

I want a tofu/alumaze case in the future

The only metal case I have is my keychron Q7

[vale swan]

if i still had the 2nd 60he i would've tried some more shit in the tofu

[mystic pumice]

But it sounds a little hollow

[vale swan]

the alumaze has a metallic tone to it

the tofu doesnt with the brass weight

i have them both

[mystic pumice]

How would I get rid of the hollow metal like sound of my Q7?

[vale swan]

im not sure how the Q7 is built but you could either do polyfill/tapemod or some kinda foam or if its built like the old Q1's you could do a force break mod

i know it sounds insane putting tape on the back of the pcb, but it does so much

[mystic pumice]

Does not sound crazy at all

[vale swan]

ye thats what I do

my wooting in the salvation has absolutely no foam in it just 1 layer of tape

[mystic pumice]

But I heard electrical tape is best for tape mod right?

[vale swan]

i use paper tape

people here also use moleskin tape

[mystic pumice]

Moleskin tape is the bandaid like tape right?

[vale swan]

not sure never used it

pads?

oh those

ye i heard abt those

geon has some really cool shit

i wish i owned a frog mini too

you can get a custom plate and put a 60he in it

[mystic pumice]

Force breaking will probably have to be normal shelf stuff

Not to many options for that stuff in EU or I have to spend an arm and leg for shipping and potentially duty tax as well

[vale swan]

look for something like this

[mystic pumice]

So normal tape and not stuff specifically for modding

[vale swan]

should be easy to find

deltakeyco has some geon shit on their store

[mystic pumice]

I can proabbaly just go to a construction shop and ask for 0.5mm tape

[vale swan]

that should work

right those guys too

[mystic pumice]

Keygem is EU?

[vale swan]

germany

deltakeyco is from france

[mystic pumice]

Nice aight

UK usually have tax since brexit

[vale swan]

well UK isnt in the EU anymore

[harsh dove]

Top of the morning yall

[mystic pumice]

EU as in European Union not Europe as a whole lmao

Not after the tax usually

[vale swan]

yes

[mystic pumice]

Hey king

[vale swan]

remember when you promised last night you'd ship me those kitty keycaps?

[harsh dove]

Must’ve been a dream

[vale swan]

nah no shot

atleast i hope you actually main them

they look to good to not be mained

[mystic pumice]

he promised the sleep paralysis demon, not you lmao

[stray tiger]

If Cam hated them as much as he pretends, he would but he secretly loves them

[vale swan]

how can you not love those

they look insanely good

where did you get those btw

[mystic pumice]

Send pic

[vale swan]

i might cop them

[mystic pumice]

Gawd Dayum

They look goooood

[vale swan]

a real shame they arent GMK but still very nice

[mystic pumice]

I bet an arm and leg it has no Nordic layout

[harsh dove]

They haha they are 1.5mm thick PBT tho

[stray tiger]

His room lighting is off, here are the real colors

[vale swan]

do you have a link for these or the name?

[harsh dove]

Yeah my lighting is a bit yellow/pink

[mystic pumice]

Looks even better ngl

[vale swan]

ye my lighting is off too

[mystic pumice]

Mine is just a bit more on the yellow tint instead of clinic white

[vale swan]

thats the advantage of a big screen, put that bitch on white and you have enough light

[harsh dove]

Took out some saturation

Lil bit better

[vale swan]

that poor tofu just chilling there in the 2nd shot

[fluid ravine]

School cooking my brain cells

Sup guys

[vale swan]

not much

[fluid ravine]

Hi pops

[mystic pumice]

Man that low profile keyboard looks siiiiick lmao

[fluid ravine]

Ah yes the cats

[stray tiger]

Its probably because your screen is blurry. BTW the answer is B

[vale swan]

how can you read that

[stray tiger]

https://www.amazon.com/Wunzkii-Dye-Sublimation-Switches-Mechanical-Keyboards/dp/B0BS193G3G/ref=sr_1_7_sspa

[fluid ravine]

[vale swan]

27 bucks for those really

[fluid ravine]

Onggg

[vale swan]

i was expecting more like 50

they look pretty decent

hmm might be a cop

[stray tiger]

They used to be when I got em haha

[vale swan]

ah

[fluid ravine]

Yeah screw gmk

[vale swan]

they support multiple layouts too nice

[fluid ravine]

Cat caps better

[harsh dove]

They actually are tbh

[vale swan]

ye cheap shit is getting surprisingly good these days

[fluid ravine]

Fr

Makes me happi

[vale swan]

its a shame im too into the GMk sound profile especially the spacebar

these would be fun tho atleast to try and i have a 2nd board i could put them on

[mystic pumice]

I want a symetrical keycap set like XDA for my Keychron Q7 because the keys that are supposed to be between the letter keys and the numpad are random heights because of the weird layout

[fluid ravine]

Alr abt to leave for PE
Gonna play volleyball reeeeee

[vale swan]

dont get hit this time

[fluid ravine]

Cya when I get home

[vale swan]

hf

[vale swan]

this is what u have?

[mystic pumice]

Yes but with Keychron Pixel Universe keycaps

[vale swan]

thats a really weird layout

idk why you wouldnt do an FRL TKL at that point

[mystic pumice]

I like weird

[vale swan]

thats fine

im into weird shit too

tho this is a bit too weird for me

keychron makes some good shit tho

[mystic pumice]

I could have gotten the more standard Q1 but thought "fuck it" and got the weird ass Q7

[vale swan]

their Q1 and Q2 and their variants are really good

i love how that Q3 Pro looks to death ngl

isnt their Q1 HE supposed to have dropped by now?

[mystic pumice]

on god

[mystic pumice]

Idk but soon if not

[vale swan]

i wont pick that up, but I'd love to see how it does

especially sound wise

[stray tiger]

Ive owned a V1, Q1 and Q4. I also have a Q1 HE coming in about 3 weeks

[vale swan]

ah nice

it should probably sound the best

[mystic pumice]

I would love to hear you opinion of the sound profile when it arrives

[vale swan]

I wish it accepted Jades

[mystic pumice]

I only have a Q7

I only own 2 keyboard

[vale swan]

i own more than or well i owned more but ye

im more of a try shit on my own stuff before ordering more kinda vibe

i prob took apart my 2 wootings over 200 times since i had them

[mystic pumice]

I techically own 3 because I have my non+ module but I am giving it away to a friend whom is getting a gamer PC sooner this month

My friend only needs a case

[vale swan]

i just sold my non +

[stray tiger]

Yes, its about a month behind. This is the email I got last

[vale swan]

i see

i think they use KS37B switches

[mystic pumice]

Do you think Keychron could be a big competitor to Wooting with their HE tech?

[vale swan]

the boog also seems interesting but apparently it had a lot of broken shit

[stray tiger]

They just changed to KS-37C version

[vale swan]

if there is someone imo it isthem but HE is also sofware heavy

[mystic pumice]

All the others are either not as good or still lag behind in terms of latency

[vale swan]

KS-37C? another one

[stray tiger]

No, becuase the sensor type they are using is the same as the Boog75 and other KS-37 family boards

[stray tiger]

yes

[vale swan]

what changed this time

[mystic pumice]

So Wooting still have superior HE?

[stray tiger]

B vs C. C has no stem protusion

[vale swan]

would be fun to try a plateless config with the KS37 type switches as i think with that thick ass tube it should stay in place

[stray tiger]

Tube is now gone

[vale swan]

oh damn

i just saw ye

so in theory these should work on the 60he

if we get reverse polarity

[mystic pumice]

Reverse Polarity?

[vale swan]

the direction of the magnet in the switch iirc

[fluid ravine]

Wait Are these the revised ks37?

[vale swan]

pretty much what it seems like

[fluid ravine]

(▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)ᴵ ˢᵉᵉ

[vale swan]

these should be fun to compare against the KS20U

[stray tiger]

They will work, they just might not work well. Almost every reverse polarity switch we have tested so far maxes out the Wooting sensor between 3-3.5mm. This is likely due to the increased magnet flux strength required for boards that use the offset integrated sensor compared to the more expensive inline separate sensor that Wooting uses.

[vale swan]

i see

i mean either way I dont think im swapping off Jades

but nice to see new options

[mystic pumice]

I love my jades

[fluid ravine]

Oh so that's what the beta firmware was for?

[mystic pumice]

I may get the dual rail switch at some point too

[fluid ravine]

The one you told us to test the other week?

[vale swan]

we have a beta firmware for reverse polarity?

[stray tiger]

Yes. Simon has been hard at work trying to get all of my different switches to work so I can figure out which ones really work and which ones just register but dont have full range

[stray tiger]

Yes

[fluid ravine]

w simon

[mystic pumice]

Siiiiiiiiiiiiick

[vale swan]

these in theory shouldnt sound too different from the KS20Us tho right? these KS37Cs

[fluid ravine]

Prob

[stray tiger]

Im betting they are identical. In fact, based on Keychrons email to me that they are moving the sensor location, they MIGHT even be the same exact switch as a KS-20U but with the magnet flipped

[shadow fern]

Jades are BIS right now for HE switches

[vale swan]

if you want a high pitched switch ye

[stray tiger]

Im actually rocking the peaches KS-20U's daily over my Jades

[vale swan]

I still might try the KS20Us

[mystic pumice]

Non HE question but have anyone tried the Gateron Smoothie linear switches and what are your opinion on them?

[vale swan]

what config are you running? like plate/case

[shadow fern]

Sand they aren't that good imo

they are smooth but not like the typical Gat smooth

[vale swan]

i have jades with cf plate in the salvation atm and i really love em. a little loud but quite nice

[mystic pumice]

I am currently using them for my Q7 and they seem fine. But may need a bit more lube

[shadow fern]

I have the KS20U, they feel the same as any other open bottom HE switch.

[stray tiger]

We also have these to test. Maybe we can check them out tonight on stream

[mystic pumice]

but I need to learn how to lube first

[shadow fern]

Not a fan of Outemu lol

[vale swan]

Yeah feel wise will be the same, sound tho no

these should rattle way less or not at all and the stem should be the most stable

[stray tiger]

I didn't like the other Outemus we tried but these are a different material so who knows

[vale swan]

no pins at the bottom strange

box stem for sure is interesting

[mystic pumice]

Was thinking the same

[vale swan]

these are 4mm travel right?

[stray tiger]

Yes

[vale swan]

nice

it'd be boring to get 3.5mm again

not that i hate that

[stray tiger]

Here is how they compare to the Outemus we tested 2 weeks ago

[vale swan]

are these not less stable in the plate?

[spiral anvil]

DHL really got my package here in one day

Wow

[vale swan]

express?

[spiral anvil]

Think so?

[vale swan]

if so then thats normal

[mystic pumice]

How do you have so much stuff? Are you like rich or like know some people??? As a poor student I am extremly jealous

[vale swan]

if its the normal DHL then its extremely impressive

[stray tiger]

We will find out tonight. The previous ones were def looser

[vale swan]

u streamin?

[stray tiger]

Im old and dumb

[vale swan]

im young and dumb

[stray tiger]

Sure, we can do one more test stream and play around with some switches

[mystic pumice]

Same

[vale swan]

thats why i have 3 cases, had 2 pcbs and 3 types of switches

[mystic pumice]

Fair lmao

[shadow fern]

I have both Lekkers, Ks20, Raptor HE, Jades stock, Jades w/ 70g springs. Jades are BIS. The dual rail thing is a bit of a gimmick. Tons of other MX dual rail switches too.

[vale swan]

sounds fun, if i dont sleep i'll pop in

ye it is a bit of a gimmick

but still cool they tried it

[shadow fern]

for sure

[vale swan]

i just wish they would drop prices on these things a bit

[shadow fern]

I will say the Roller Linear MX switches are wildly good.

[vale swan]

the KS20U oranges are 65 bucks on aliexpress, the white ones harvested from the prebuilt are 40 on ymdk's ali store

[shadow fern]

The stems have megnets in them (not for HE) but they hold little ball bearings on the stems - 100% the most stable switch I've evr used

[mystic pumice]

https://kbdfans.com/products/roller-linear-switches These?

[shadow fern]

Yes

[mystic pumice]

May try them for my Q7

[shadow fern]

zero stem wobbly in any direction, glide incredible stock, feel incredible stock, it's pretty shocking.

I bought a ton when they dropped, they sold out in a day

[mystic pumice]

Anyone have a suggestion for a silent tactile switch (non HE)

And is there any Tactile HE switches out there? have not found any

[shadow fern]

KBDfans is trying to find better ways to produce them before they release them again and so they can send them out to vendors so they can be sold in more places

they are pretty extensive to produce

No tactile HE

HE has always been about linear movement. In due time I'm sure tactile will come out but not atm.

[vale swan]

idk if tactile HE would fair that well

linear clicky HE would go hard

there are linear clicky switches for MX already

[mystic pumice]

I preferer linear anyway. Just wanted to try something different

But may try some for my Q7 then

[shadow fern]

ya that would be wild

The Melodic switches aren't bad

[mystic pumice]

But does anyone know some good silent tactile switches? prefeably no loud click but a light one is okay

[vale swan]

the best silent tactiles are probably topre

but thats HHKB stuff

[mystic pumice]

HHKB?

[vale swan]

hapy hacker keyboard

this

its sort of a 60% but really cut down

[mystic pumice]

Only in ANSI?

[vale swan]

well where would the backspace go with ISO and yes

ISO would be wack on this

[mystic pumice]

Damn

I wanna learn ANSI in the future but I am already in the middle of learning how to use a 60% from a 100

[vale swan]

take it slowly

i went from a full size to a 65 took me about 2 weeks

then again from a 65 to 60

a 64% percent would be ideal tbh

[mystic pumice]

The lack of arrow keys (having to use fn) really threw me off for the first few months

[vale swan]

i see

this is 64 if ur wondering

its a 60% but with arrow keys

[mystic pumice]

Was about to say

[vale swan]

much smarter use of space

[mystic pumice]

One of the reasons I went with Q7 is because is is small and still have arrow keys

[vale swan]

i just replaced rshift ralt and rctrl with my arrow keys as i never use those keys

[harsh dove]

Same

[vale swan]

the rshift in particular is the most useless key for me

[mystic pumice]

And I like to use the extra ins, end, del, home, pgup, pgdown bottons for macro

[vale swan]

then you would've have been served much better by a 65%

[mystic pumice]

Probably yeah

Does Keychron have a 65%?

[vale swan]

the Q2 and Q2 Pro

you could also try the kbd67 lite if you can find one

[harsh dove]

👀

[mystic pumice]

Their website sells all the parts of the KBD67 but not as the kit

[vale swan]

no 60he pcb 👀

also your n and m key are swapped

[crimson sky]

(it was bait)

[harsh dove]

Oops

[vale swan]

you said to criticize you in the stream

so im going for it

[mystic pumice]

Lmaoooo nice catch

[vale swan]

also if i zoom in 500% i can see dust

absolutely unacceptable

[harsh dove]

Told you, chat is supposed to help me

It’s working

[polar girder]

That’s clean

Nice

[mystic pumice]

You don't wanna see my 8 year old keyboard from Cooler Master then xD

[vale swan]

you dont wanna see the dust behind my monitor

[mystic pumice]

OMG saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame

[vale swan]

well not rlly a monitor but there is so much heat coming off of this thing

[harsh dove]

lol I’m cleaning my pc / setup this weekend actually

[vale swan]

prob why there is so much stuff

i should clean the fans on my radiators

good call

[mystic pumice]

My PC is too new to need a cleaning

[vale swan]

i usually like to clean it every 3-5 weeks the pc that is

[mystic pumice]

I do it every 3 months since I have a dust resistant case and I have slight positive pressure inside the case which helps preventing dust build up

[stray tiger]

Outemu has 2 tactile HE switches. Browns and Blues I believe

[vale swan]

i dont do aircooling so all i have to do is clean the radiators in the back of the case

tho i dont really have to, the gpu is still running pretty cool and i dont play games

[mystic pumice]

I only do air cooling

My old PC was air cooling and AIO cooled

[vale swan]

thats fair

i already had mine since the 2080ti days so i just kept it for the silence

[mystic pumice]

Nice

[vale swan]

brand new i probably wouldnt do it, the gpu coolers are too big to be shit

[mystic pumice]

I upgraded from a 1070 to a 4070
i7 4770k to an i5 13400F

[vale swan]

the cpu will run hot anyways

thats a nice upgrade

i dont plan on changing anytime soon or well until gta 6 comes on PC

[mystic pumice]

My air cooloer is rated for 195 TDP and my 13400f only goes to 65 TDP

[vale swan]

its not just tdp

its also the chip density and voltages and stuff like that

[mystic pumice]

But I am upgrading it to a 13600KF soon

[vale swan]

how good your contact is with the cooler

if you got unlucky and the IHS was soldered poorly

[mystic pumice]

I know I build PC's pretty often

[vale swan]

my 5800X3D runs extremely hot with 2 560 radiators on it for example

[mystic pumice]

I know a hell of a lot more about PC's than keyboards. I have build PC's for many years but keyboards are a new hobbie for me

[vale swan]

well i was the same

but now i feel like its about equal

[mystic pumice]

I may actually get an Intel GPU in the future just to try them out

But a cheaper one

[vale swan]

unlike keyboards i don't really like trying shit out on my main PC

[mystic pumice]

Because I already have a 4070

[vale swan]

i like my pc to be always stable and to perform its best while staying as quiet as possible

[mystic pumice]

I get that

[vale swan]

i might switch to intel again for cpu next time

these amd x3d cpus run extremely hot and arent really that much faster for 4k gaming especially

amd is also pretty inefficient in idle due to the i/o die on the thing

[mystic pumice]

I also heard that he 3D cache is slower for workstation loads and only faster for gaming

[vale swan]

its not that its slower, its just a 1 trick pony cpu

the 14900K can match it 95% of time for 4k gaming while running at the same temp(for gaming) and has 3x the cores which are useful for decompression for example

[mystic pumice]

I think I remember Linus saying it is a bit slower for work because it takes longer for the data in the 3D cache to tranfer because the cache is... well... 3D

[vale swan]

it is slower because of the clocks against its normal non 3d counterparts

the 5800x3d against the 5800x loses 400mhz which is huge

[mystic pumice]

Hmmmmm true

[vale swan]

the 7800x3d against the 7700x loses even more but on Zen 4 its a bit less important

anyways wrong channel and im tired anyway

[mystic pumice]

Never really tried to many AMD CPU's and I have yet to try an X3D chip

[vale swan]

prob shouldnt talk abt gpus in this

[mystic pumice]

lmao its the modding channel they cool with anything dawg

[vale swan]

ye sounds fair

[vale swan]

I'd prob wouldnt try one rn

too late into the generation and they all have their problems

[mystic pumice]

Also why I did not adopt one

I like to have a least 2 or 3 generations of that tech before adopting full time

[vale swan]

7800x3d is shit for anything besides gaming
7950x3d has issues manually swapping ccds so you have to do it urself and runs extremely hot due to chip density
7900x3d is just garbage

[vale swan]

i swapped off of my 9900k because the mobo was dying for some reason

went to a 5950X and it was very good

but it was bottlenecking my gpu so swapped to this

[mystic pumice]

I have a very very slight botttleneck on my 13400f with my 4070. So I am thinking about getting a 13600KF

And selling my 13400f to a friend

[vale swan]

i got about 20-40% better perf on the x3d vs my 5950x

[harsh dove]

They’ve fixed this now

[vale swan]

they didnt

derbauer still had a lot of issues

[harsh dove]

Basically the 7950x3d gets the exact same performance as 7800x3d in gaming

[vale swan]

in his 14900k review

in some games u still have to manually set the ccd

[harsh dove]

The recent video from HUB showed it to be pretty good

[vale swan]

i saw that but still even if thats fixed

the cpu runs so fucking hot

for 160 watts in full load it does 90c that is insane

[harsh dove]

It’s designed too lol

[vale swan]

my 5950X at 220 watts with PBO did 70c

[vale swan]

i know but in a custom loop i hate hot cpus

[harsh dove]

Yeah the X3D have a tjmax of 89c and the non-3D is 95 iirc

[vale swan]

ye

the 5800X3D already runs hot on my side

[harsh dove]

Yeah I feel that

[vale swan]

it gets to abt 70c during gaming while pulling 60-80 watts

my 9900K at 200 watts was doing less than that

but ik why it does it

[mystic pumice]

My 13400F at max load only goes 68-72 celcius with my Be Quiet shadow rock 3

[vale swan]

the 14900K isnt a good solution to my problem either because in full core it sucks a lot of power

im kinda stuck with my 5800X3D for now

not that thats a bad thing

it does really well with a 4090 at 4k

i just wish for more cores for decompression

[harsh dove]

14th gen is lame

lol

[vale swan]

it is pretty lame but its basically a 13900K

[mystic pumice]

Agreed

[vale swan]

which was a very good cpu

[harsh dove]

Yeah

12th and 13th gen were good

[mystic pumice]

Is was just a refresh of 13 gen right?

[harsh dove]

Yep

[vale swan]

its a 13900K overclocked

the 14900KS is really sus tho

its 1% faster than the 7950x3d while pulling over twice the power in this game even tho they still run the same temp

[mystic pumice]

In some places here in Denmark 14 gen is like 20 bucks cheaper than their 13 gen counterparts

But only some places

Which I find weird

[vale swan]

blue line is power

the others are fps

i find that pretty weird

[harsh dove]

I had this same argument with someone before and basically tried to tell me “imagine caring about power consumption”

[vale swan]

1% faster for 3x the power is some pretty weird behavior lmao

[vale swan]

I dont care abt power consumption specifically

i care about efficiency

[harsh dove]

Same

That’s what I tried to say

[untold wigeon]

.

[vale swan]

those 7980X threadrippers pull 350 watts but they are extremely efficient

[harsh dove]

But they were stuck in their opinion lol

[vale swan]

and very easy to cool

[mystic pumice]

I started to care after inflation hurt the power prices...

[vale swan]

ye its not as easy as low power=low temps=less money

[harsh dove]

Right

[vale swan]

AMD still runs hot due to how small the dies are and its hard to move the heat away fast

intel runs hot because it runs some insane voltages stock and has a lot of cores plus the arhitecture is old

also they have that contact issue and bending in the socket

[mystic pumice]

Intel gets really really good once you undervolt that shit

Raises performace AND lowers temps

[vale swan]

if we can make that argument i can turn on eco mode on the 7950X with 1 click and it'd still crushes it

its that kinda vibe

[harsh dove]

Thought that was just 12th gen and up chips

[vale swan]

well ye

im talking abt those

[harsh dove]

Ah

[vale swan]

12900K 13900K 14900K and KS

[harsh dove]

I use those contact frames

[vale swan]

the cpus b4 that are irrelevant

[harsh dove]

When I had mine

[vale swan]

yeah i know them

[harsh dove]

I also have one for my am5 just because it looks good

[vale swan]

derbauer delided recent intel cpus and found about a 7-8c reduction which is kinda crazy

[harsh dove]

Even tho you can’t see it

I know it’s there

[vale swan]

did u have any issues with ur am5 shit?

[harsh dove]

Nah

[mystic pumice]

Undervolting my 13400F was a huge performance boost for me

[vale swan]

i heard people had long boot times

and shit with ram

[harsh dove]

During that whole motherboard fiasco I manually changed my voltages

[vale swan]

i undervolted and oc'd my 9900k and same result

[harsh dove]

Never had an issue

[vale swan]

ye when asus was accidentally cooking up cpus upwards of 1000c in the socket

u know just a small mistake

[harsh dove]

And the boot times were a little long but nothing you couldn’t speed up a bit in BIOS and even without that, it wasn’t that bad

[mystic pumice]

But it can only be done if your motherboard BIOS supports it because since it is a non-k it can't be changed in Intels own tuner software

[vale swan]

its normal for the cpu to delid itself in the socket

thanks asus

but also thanks asus for the good working bios, i love asus bios on my b550 board

[harsh dove]

Yeah those exploded dies were crazy to see on Gamers Nexus

[vale swan]

i dont think too many people had the issue

but ye

it def degraded the cpus tho

[harsh dove]

Yeah lot of people got refunds and got new CPUs even if there’s wasn’t affected

[vale swan]

i want intel to try x3d

i feel like they could make it work better

[mystic pumice]

I have a asus B760M-A WIFI D4

[vale swan]

b550 is amd just fyi

so not comparable

[vale swan]

does intel still block oc and ram oc on b series?

[mystic pumice]

Not that I can remember

[vale swan]

meanwhile i ran a 220 oc'd cpu on a $80 motherboard

[mystic pumice]

I have not checked Ram OC tho

[vale swan]

on amd

[harsh dove]

Yes

[vale swan]

classic intel

[harsh dove]

There B boards suck compared to AMDs

[vale swan]

yeah amds are pretty much the same as the flagship one

[harsh dove]

Better off with Z690-790

[vale swan]

just less shit on it

i mean with a 14900k i'd go with z790 for sure

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[vale swan]

if you have like a 14400F or smth u wouldnt

[mystic pumice]

Only "RAM oc" they allow is XMP

[vale swan]

yeah but does it limit it to a certain clock

[harsh dove]

Correct

[vale swan]

for example on 10th gen it was limiting it to 2666mhz

[harsh dove]

Most likely

[vale swan]

while Z series had infinite

not that it mattered too much on a 10900K

[harsh dove]

Oh nvm

They allow full ram overclocking apparently

[vale swan]

i wonder how many people are still using an 11900K or bought one last minute and got absolutely ripped off

that one was such a trashcan cpu

performance regression in basically every way + price increase

[mystic pumice]

Which one?

[vale swan]

B760

i think

[harsh dove]

B series boards from Intel

Yeah the newer ones

[mystic pumice]

Does mine support it?

[vale swan]

i mean it should

[mystic pumice]

Damn I just thought out of the box it would not since the old B boards did not

I need to do some overclocking then

[vale swan]

u should look it up urself

for myself im pretty happy with the configs im running rn on everything

[mystic pumice]

I will just check the BIOS myself when I restart my PC next time

[harsh dove]

Memory can be fully tuned on the B-chipsets nowadays. Only CPU multiplier OC doesn't work there.
The only thing is, RAM OC might be limited when you use a non-K CPU model, because a certain memory-controller-related voltage can't be raised with those CPUs.

[vale swan]

i do not intend to play any game until gta 6 for PC so ye

[vale swan]

i should prob restart mine

has been on for a pretty decent time

[mystic pumice]

How long is yours usually on?

[harsh dove]

In other words, yes

[vale swan]

well

[mystic pumice]

Thanks for the info

[vale swan]

its been 40 days since last power outage

[mystic pumice]

omg haha

[vale swan]

ye

i thought we had one recently

apparently not ig

[mystic pumice]

I turn mine off if I am away more than 30 min because of electrical prices lmao

[vale swan]

i mean these pcs dont really use too much power

my pc in idle uses like 60 watts

20 from the gpu 40 from the cpu

[mystic pumice]

85 watts here but am poor student with no job... haha

So cash is very limited

[vale swan]

ye that makes more sense

heat for me is a bigger issue

i use a big oled "monitor" and it gets extremely hot here

it can get up to the high 40's in the summer and even for april its extremely hot

[mystic pumice]

When I used to live with my parents then I did not give a shit but now I need to be more mindful of my money usage

[vale swan]

yeah ofc

just hope ur not cooking urself due to temp outside

its almost 7pm and its 26c in fucking april

[mystic pumice]

I live in Denmark (scandinavia) and it is like 5c

[vale swan]

i live in romania

and well its very hot

[mystic pumice]

Only 2-3 months a year is actually warm here

[vale swan]

only 2-3 months a year is actually cold here

we havent had below 5c in like years

i love cold weather myself

[mystic pumice]

I am sometimes in Croatia, Greece and Turkey so I know how hot south-eastern Europe can be

[vale swan]

yeah

i have to use an air conditioner pretty much everytime i game especially in HDR and in summer its always on

[mystic pumice]

I wish it was more 50-50 here but it is like 75 cold and 25 warm

[vale swan]

here its 99 hot 1 cold

we had 35c in the day until late october last year

48c was maximum in july

[mystic pumice]

Our buildings have no air con at all and are build to insolate and keep in heat which makes the summers unbearable

It could be 20c outside and it would be 32c in my apartment

[vale swan]

we havent had snow in 4 years i think

[mystic pumice]

We had snow 2 days ago with 10c outside... I hate the Nordic wheater lmao

[vale swan]

honestly it sounds love

with an ac in the summer it'd be perfect for me

i like the cold

[mystic pumice]

Me too but NOT IN APRIL lmao

[vale swan]

i like it always

it gets really hot in my room due to this monitor

OLED is not really known for its power efficiency

and the bigger it is the worse it gets

especially in HDR

[mystic pumice]

Man the weirdest wheater I have tried is Egypts deserts. It could be like 35-40c in the day and go down to -8 in the night

[vale swan]

that sounds like fun actually

wooting rebuild in -8c in egypt stream incoming

[mystic pumice]

It was but very weird to pack both winter and summer clothes

[vale swan]

just take the cold like a chad

[mystic pumice]

Title would be: CAN I BUILD THIS WOOTING KEYBOARD BEFORE DYING OF HEATSTROKE OR LOSING MY FINGERS FROM FROSTBITE? (Gone wrong)

[vale swan]

probably

took this apart over 150 times

since i got it

[mystic pumice]

I took it apart for the first time yesterday when I switched out my module with the + one

[vale swan]

i can probably do a any % speedrun doing this shit by now lmao

[mystic pumice]

I was confused with the case pad with the + module. Is that for the stock case or is it for a case that does not include case foam?

[vale swan]

i see

well time to eat then get miserable and probably sleep

been up since 4am

hf

[mystic pumice]

Night night buddy, ne vedem mai târziu

[vale swan]

oh

ok

well damn

[stray tiger]

Well done gents. Off-topic for 30min followed by 2 min of random talk and 1 min of keyboard discussion. You make me proud

[pastel vigil]

ADHD speedrun

[crimson crown]

thats basically what most specialized nerdy channels turn into

just off topic but with people who know shit about stuff

[stray tiger]

That's fair

[shell geode]

Just saw the YouTube update. It seems to be implied that the Lekkers V2s will still have an open bottom but still have tighter tolerances than the V1s

[harsh dove]

Correct

[elfin garnet]

For those of you that did the survey the posted today. What would be your number 1 pick to improve Wooting keyboards? Curious to know.

[tawdry tree]

Investing more in Wootility development.

[elfin garnet]

What would be key functions you want them to add?

[tawdry tree]

All kinds of features similar to DKS and MT. Feature improvements and General QoL improvements.

The features it currently has are at the absolute tip of the iceberg.

[polar girder]

see for me wootility is already more than enough

I think it would be sweet for 8k to be new standard

rappy snappy

exciting times

imagine a 60he 8k kickstarter tho

[harsh dove]

Did you read the live stream notes from Mark?

[polar girder]

no

[harsh dove]

Livestream topics

80HE - Progress updates

• Now 3 weeks into the founder's campaign, 1 week to go. Where are we at?
      - Up through now, we've been rebalancing layout and model allocations to match real sales
      - But now with 3 weeks of data, we are locking it down and placing the first purchase order
      - After accounting for order cancellations and pushing B2B buyers into the second batch
          - First batch is 80% sold out across all layouts and models!
      - Also means that we've gotten data about which layouts and versions are popular, and which might not make the cut.
      - All of the prebuilt options will be available to purchase for the entire first and second batch!
          - Second batch is TWICE the size of the first batch.
      - Starting with the third batch, expect that some of the prebuilt models will not be available
          - This won't matter if you buy within the next month or two.
          - We'll give advanced warning!
• How's the manufacturing plan going?
      - The first purchase order got placed today
      - We're on track to meet timelines!
      - More details to come about exact manufacturing timelines
• Lots of people have asked about editing orders; changing cases, that kind of thing
      - This is really tough to handle on the backend; it's better to place a new order for what you do want, and have us cancel+refund the orginal
          - Saves time, which is worth the extra it costs in transaction costs

60HE - New batches, fulfillment, getting in stock

• Bit by bit, we're more and more able to keep up with demand and keeping our keyboards in stock
      - ISO layout keyboards will be in stock and stay in stock
      - ANSI-US is a bit trickier
          - Next week we'll be in stock in the US
          - Two weeks we'll be in stock in the EU
      - Modules were in stock for over two months straight, but last couple weeks saw increase in sales particularly to China
      - We're producing more keyboards per month now than we ever have before
• There have been a lot of questions about 8k 60HE.
      - This is not possible via software, it would only be possible via a new hardware change
      - To run at 8k takes a really beefy MCU, which costs a lot more
      - Would also require a hardware redesign, the MCU is physically bigger
      - In the future maybe it would be interesting, but definitely not any time soon.
• We're more interesting in expanding the accessory options for the 60HE
      - New Alumaze60 cases: pink and white
          - Showed off last stream, now available for purchase and immediate shipment!
      - New wrist rest colors to match, now available!
      - New Take Control keycap colors finished getting manufactured, on the way to our warehouse, for sale soon
          - Blue and Navy
          - Pink and white
          - White and black
          - ISO-DE black and yellow
      - New detachable cable colors
          - Pink, white, blue, purple
      - New spring packs are en route, for sale soon!

Switches?
    - Lekker v2s
        - Feel great, sound great, are great!
        - When will they be for sale for 60HE? Not sure. Ask again next stream.
    - Jades
    - Other switches?
        Our team is actively investigating how we can support as many 3rd party switches as possible. More to come!

[tawdry tree]

It is for most I’d presume. It just could be so much more.

[polar girder]

60HE 8K Release Party kickstarter.com

Nuff said

Gotta do it eventually lolol

[agile grove]

the whole reason the founder campaigns exist is to not use kickstarter

[harsh dove]

lol maybe one day but rn in terms of 60HE they’re just focused on more accessories

[tawdry tree]

I’d expect another layout.

[agile grove]

as it stands an 8k 60he is pretty unlikely. I could maybe see an entire hardware and design refresh like a 60he 2 with 8k polling.

[stray tiger]

Yeah there is no other competitor even remotely close here. I'm very happy with where wootility is at and where it's already going.

[agile grove]

but im assuming that would be way down the line, I have a feeling wooting wants to explore more size options and continue working on their current device offerings.

[polar girder]

I’m sure they’ll fulfill their 60HE contracts and obligations then move on to the 8k version

I’m not delusional. Just excited lol

[harsh dove]

Also an 8K 60HE would cost more than the current 60HEs

[polar girder]

Yeah that’s fine

$2m on kickstar and the price is $250 now

Or founders campaign

Whatever same thing you know what I’m talking about lol

Everyone else charging the same already and doing it half ass

Wooting products command a premium

Best out

[agile grove]

like I said I feel like if an 8k 60he were to happen it wouldnt be slapping 8k onto the 60he (mainly because that is impossible), but rather an entirely new device alongside the existing 60he.

[polar girder]

Maybe make em both sure

Idk whatever’s best lol

It definitely would be a completely new PCB design

[harsh dove]

The 65HE

8K

[tawdry tree]

Exactly

[agile grove]

theres also the question of it being necessary to have 8k polling

[polar girder]

That’s not a question.

[tawdry tree]

For marketing it is.

[polar girder]

8k only

lol

[agile grove]

its nice sure, but I personally wouldnt upgrade to a 60he 8k

[untold wigeon]

^

[agile grove]

thats fair, but would wooting really make enough money to justify making a 60he 8k?

[untold wigeon]

I would say if it was just a relaunch of the 60he with 8k polling rate I would switch

[tawdry tree]

Oh I really believe so. A few have said they bought the 80HE for it’s performance over the 60HE despite not liking the layout much.

[polar girder]

lol it’s very tempting for me

[harsh dove]

That is a good question but let’s look at how many people were skeptical of the 80He because of its layout and what not , yet tons of people bought it because it has true 8K

[polar girder]

I just can’t do the formafactor so haven’t

[agile grove]

yeah but thats quite literally impossible due to size restraints. it would almost have to be an entirely new device.

[polar girder]

But 8k mouse and 8k keyboard is the dream

[untold wigeon]

Performance drainer setup

[stray tiger]

I do think a gasket mounted 8k 65HE would be a killer add even though I'm a 60 lover

[polar girder]

Whatever the smallest possible layout that includes 8k is, that’s what they should do

[untold wigeon]

Holy

[harsh dove]

This

[untold wigeon]

Insta buy

[weary tree]

gasket mount 60he pls

[polar girder]

Yeah I’m down for that

[untold wigeon]

Just for the 65% layout

[latent fern]

is rappy snappy still under development? and will it come to the 60HE?

[harsh dove]

And I know wooting would do gasket for it

[polar girder]

Yes and yes

[tawdry tree]

I highly doubt they’d release a 60HE 8K before a new layout.

[agile grove]

Its hard to really know how many people out of the thousands of founders tho

[harsh dove]

Agree

[brazen sparrow]

This feels more likely than a upgraded 60HE

[agile grove]

I love my 60he but that would go so hard. not sure if theres enough room for a gasket mount tho, bezels might look off.

I mean the 80he isnt really that much bigger than a 60he so its probably possible

[harsh dove]

It’s possible, it’s wooting we’re talking about

[stray tiger]

The larger bezels are due to the desire to decrease typing angle

There are alternatives

[agile grove]

true

[sonic vector]

has anyone had trouble with the standoff screws in the wooting alumaze 60 ?

[tawdry tree]

Bezels on a gasket mounted board? How so?

[agile grove]

at minimum I'd expect 5ish years until we get the 60he 2: now with 8k. (if ever)

[tawdry tree]

Probably depends on how well the 80HE does compared to the 60HE.

[harsh dove]

Idk about that long but yeah

[agile grove]

I mean, the 80he as somewhat been marketed as the newest gen of wooting products, so its not impossible we get another 60% wooting keyboard in this "new gen."

[harsh dove]

Technology moves fast

[tawdry tree]

Old pic

😂

[agile grove]

well it took wooting 2ish years for the 80he so im assuming another 2ish years for the next keyboard, then some extra time for a new 60% keyboard

now wooting is only growing these days so it could be entirely possible the next keyboard comes much sooner compared to the 80he

plus making the 80he came with trying to solve new issues with a new MCU and gasket mount, theoretically they should have the knowledge from the 80he for the next keyboard

[harsh dove]

Ah yeah yeah

65HE 8K gasket mount in 2.5 years

See yall there

👋

[agile grove]

maybe sooner than that tbh

80he was also a brand new layout so it required more designing

if a 65he was just the usual 65% layout it would probably be a bit quicker

so I'd say maybe 1.5-2 years?

so if we do get a 60he 2 down the line it could be within the next 4 or so years.

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsey-look-like-bunch-of-idiots-gif-16002855

Wooting guys probably look at our conversation like…

[agile grove]

imagine we come back in 6 months to see the annoucement of the 65he

[weary tree]

thats impossible

80 He would barely just released its 1st batches

[agile grove]

nothings impossible

this is wooting

[harsh dove]

42HE

Cause answer to life is 42

[agile grove]

I thought it was 37

[harsh dove]

And 69HE

Cause why not

[agile grove]

since its the world's most popular random number

[harsh dove]

Is it

[agile grove]

yes

anyways

[harsh dove]

I believe it

[agile grove]

wootroller when?

it could be made of zinc alloy so you gain while you game

[harsh dove]

Wootroller?

[agile grove]

wooting controller

[harsh dove]

Ahhh

The Wontroller

Need the Woouse first

Wooting Mouse

[agile grove]

no

we do not

[harsh dove]

We don’t not

[weary tree]

ah the veritasium vid

[harsh dove]

So you’re basically saying we do

[agile grove]

the mouse market is saturated enough

[agile grove]

typo 😔

[harsh dove]

Lmao

[agile grove]

I was thinking of we dont and we do not

[harsh dove]

Yeah but no one would be better than the Woomouse

[agile grove]

I guess? all mice these days use the same sensors.

[harsh dove]

Yall ever listen to Pop Smoke? We need the Woo

[agile grove]

its just who can be the lightest and not have awful QC

[weary tree]

rappy snapy mouse

[harsh dove]

Rapid Trigger Mouse

[agile grove]

how would that even work

[harsh dove]

Wooting will make it work

[agile grove]

but mouse buttons arent even linear

[harsh dove]

They will be now

On the Woomouse

[agile grove]

that seems like it would be a step in the wrong direction

[harsh dove]

Nah man, whichever direction Wooting steps, is the right direction

[agile grove]

true

[harsh dove]

[agile grove]

while they're at it, they should make it use magnets

like instead of an optical sensor

[harsh dove]

Yes

Hall Effect Mouse

[weary tree]

magnet skates

make it float

[harsh dove]

The WooSkates

[agile grove]

the mousepad has magnetic sensors and the mouse has magnets in it

[harsh dove]

With the WooPad

With the WooMouse

With the Wootroller

[agile grove]

the proprietary woopad that is required for the mouse to work

[harsh dove]

And the WooMonitor

WooDesk?

[agile grove]

and the woophone

[harsh dove]

Yes we need the iWooPhone

[agile grove]

we need an enitre woocosystem

[weary tree]

i want this to make the mouse float https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWojYBhvfjM

[harsh dove]

Ahh yes WooTube

[weary tree]

lmao

[agile grove]

imagine the flicks

[harsh dove]

At that point you just aim with your mind

Telekinesis Mouse

[agile grove]

the wootalink

[harsh dove]

Yes

Wooting in my brain stem

[agile grove]

(only works with wooting keyboards, woomice, woomonitors, and wootrollers)

really gotta nail in the woocosystem

[weary tree]

would only be logical to have a wooting graphics card

[agile grove]

mhmm

wootram

wootcpu

wootgpu

wooterboard

wootcase

[harsh dove]

WooterSupply

[agile grove]

wootssd

[weary tree]

they should note this down

[agile grove]

fr

[harsh dove]

I mean the names can’t be any worse than how most of these companies name switches

[agile grove]

im looking at you akko v3 cream yellow

[brazen sparrow]

Wooting mousepads could be neat. Like if they could create better quality pads like artisan that’d be sick.

Or desk pads in general.

[shadow fern]

Unfortunately I refuse to buy / try anything Outemu.

[stray tiger]

The Obscuras would like to have a talk with you

Also, the outemu's are the only reverse polarity switches that work decently with the Wooting at this point. So at least they have that going for them

[harsh dove]

Yeah that’s the only reason I bought some lol

[tawdry tree]

What I said before about the browns wasn’t just my batch, another who tried them had the same issue. They are extremely hard to get in/out the switch plate as they for some reason are fat. Only goes for the black bottoms. Can’t even get them in any of my metal switch openers. 😅

[latent fern]

boba u4’s?

[median spade]

Obscura and Boba

[vivid jasper]

Yes, but it’s more correct to call them yiqian. They just use the housing from outemu. Here are their characteristics that the seller sent me
Yiqian (S):
Brown-tactile (30/65gf) : https://i.imgur.com/r8kyqoI.png , https://i.imgur.com/TpxIWdN.png
Blue-tactile (30/65gf) : https://i.imgur.com/rGVKuUx.png
Red (30/65gf) : https://i.imgur.com/jrEjxYx.png
Pink (40/60gf) : https://i.imgur.com/TaelrqD.png
The red ones are poorly made. Spring is magnetic to the stem, no lubrication at all, bad magnet, loud and rattling. Best never to get one.
The pink ones are better made. Got lube, good magnet, double-stage spring.

But unfortunately I did not find any information about tactile switches. Maybe someone has one, write, it will be interesting to read.

I would rather call these ones outemu.
OUTEMU OTM pink switch in the yellow housing (30/60gf, S) : https://i.imgur.com/lutPH0M.jpeg

[median spade]

Put <> around the links

[vivid jasper]

I know, I just forgot

[median spade]

[harsh dove]

[hot raven]

cable ?

[stray tiger]

Why do you say they arent Outemu?

[harsh dove]

Nightcrawler

[vivid jasper]

There is no information that this is done at the Outemu factory. the original source where these switches are sold is Yiqian on taobao, that’s even the name of their company in China. This is written in Chinese characters on the screenshots

[hot raven]

and where did you get it ?

[harsh dove]

WiredIn

[vivid jasper]

东芜市益谦电子有限公司 - Dongwu Yiqian Electronics Co., Ltd.

[hot raven]

and did you know cable design like this but cheaper ? because 90+ all cable i didn't have the money and i need to save it for a new computer

like 30-40€ max

[harsh dove]

For a design like that? No, I do not, sorry

[hot raven]

np but a staright and how can i say this not flat tip, that fit with my tofu 60 redux

[stray tiger]

Oh your message wasnt clear, you're saying those specific Outemu are manufactured by Dongwu Yiqian Electronics

[harsh dove]

Have you looked at Wooting Cable Kits?

[vivid jasper]

https://shop75219170227y6.1688.com/page/index.html see for yourself. this is the original source. they don't sell any other switches other than these.

[harsh dove]

https://wooting.io/product/detachable-cable

Something like these maybe?

Also if you wait, they have some more colors coming out iirc

[hot raven]

me i like the black and like they have the straight one but i would like to buy it for 40€ or more cheaper if it's possible

[stray tiger]

Yes I understand now. Also, you are correct that the manufacturer for the clear pink/red/blue/brown is different from the opaque pink. Magnets strengths/type/size are also significantly different

[vivid jasper]

Yep, and besides, I have pink and red ones on my hands. the red ones are simply disgusting, well, I described them.

[harsh dove]

Anything cheaper than that might not work with the wooting board very well especially if using tachyon mode, I’m not sure of any brands that make them in that price range

Can check out ChubbyTech @hot raven

Oof maybe not

They don’t have great reviews from about a year ago

[stray tiger]

I have the clear pink and opaque pink and you can see the difference

[marsh saffron]

What switch is that on the left

Looks weird

[harsh dove]

These

[hot raven]

and the texture i don't think i will like it but thx for your help i think i will just take the cable of wooting sad that is 54.33 but ok ok ^^

[vivid jasper]

They're seriously different. As far as I know, the ones on the left are actually better. And did I find the right information about the left one, it has a south polarity, right?

[harsh dove]

Yeah, I think the wooting cable is your best option in terms of price and guaranteed compatibility without breaking the bank on a custom cable

[stray tiger]

Yes, both are south pole

[tawdry ore]

any new information about lekker 2.0?

[stray tiger]

The ones on the left seem to max out the Wooting sensor too early, so I wouldnt say they are better. I'll be testing again tonight with new firmware and then checking for fit and sound.

[vivid jasper]

Well, they were not originally made for wooting at all. And as far as I know wooting has no precise calibration on pressing as it is done in other keyboards and therefore it is very difficult to use any third-party switches. I've seen these pink ones in redragon m61 , e-yooso keyboards.

[stray tiger]

Wooting is working on firmware to support as many 3rd party switches as possible, even reverse polarity. There is beta firmware available if you wish to experiment and Wooting's switch calibration is among the best out there (especially with the newer firmware)

[vivid jasper]

You'll pardon me, but I don't have any wooting devices, I use others, but I have a bunch of different switches 🙂 So on the new version will calibration be available when pushing to the end of the switch stroke, or will wooting add each switch to the list of supported switches independently?

[stray tiger]

It already calculates at the beginning of the press and the end of the press but they will also be adding a "switch selector" feature to the firmware as well.

[near loom]

If i switch to the Gateron Magnetic Jades do I have to do anything in wootility since they have a 3.6 bottom out

[vivid jasper]

Okay thanks for the reply! I just didn't quite understand why that pink switch was triggering earlier, so I thought the wooting still didn't have calibration of the start and end of the switch.

[median spade]

Cherry MX HE when

Need my full nylon HE switch

[harsh dove]

Raptors lol

[median spade]

Need that special cherry nylon blend

Raptors just sound like gateron stuff

[harsh dove]

Yeah lol

I don’t care for raptors besides liking their color

[median spade]

Sorry latenpow don’t sue me Gateron

Yeah raptors were better than lekkers

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[median spade]

But 20u and jades clear them

[harsh dove]

Well

Only ever so slightly better

[median spade]

Real

[harsh dove]

In terms of stock

Yeah I’m liking the 20u quite a bit

[median spade]

HE Oil kings when

[harsh dove]

Yes

[median spade]

Come on gateron

[harsh dove]

Made by Wooting tho

lol

[median spade]

True that works too lmao

[shrewd hatch]

Can someone please let me know where to lube the jade switches? Same process as leckers or not the housing on these?

@harsh dove

[harsh dove]

Same

[shrewd hatch]

Housing, stem and spring?

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[shrewd hatch]

Awesome thanks

[shrewd hatch]

And should I wash factory lube off also?

[harsh dove]

No

[shrewd hatch]

Easy, cheers bro

[quiet bay]

Dont even bother 😂

[tawdry tree]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message aren’t good either, just got them for tactility. Did yours fit the switch plate well?

[vale swan]

you have a lot of things that don't fit the switch plate

[solid plume]

Ladies and gentlemen I present you……..

My newest keycaps. Just purchased

[tawdry tree]

silence (I tried em in the ATK first which was tighter than)

[tawdry tree]

Color way is nice!

[stray tiger]

The set I picked up this week doesnt look near as good...

[tawdry tree]

It could look great too. Not a fan of it with that color case personally.

A purple case perhaps?

[solid plume]

Talking to me?

Nvm my discord glitched out

lol

[stray tiger]

GMK Lime doesn't go with anything but it was a blind bag buy haha

[solid plume]

Im@thinking of replacing the red keys on the GMK Sumi with either gold or more hot pink

What do you think

[stray tiger]

Surprisingly green does look good on purple though, you're right. Zooted on the Salvation

[stray tiger]

Nah leave it. I'm grabbing a Bauer Lite IRL version at Keycon and the red would look good with it

[sacred zealot]

mine look like jolly ranchers

[vale swan]

cant find that in the EU anymore unfortunately

[solid plume]

Snagged it off Ebay for 163 w/ shipping including. No novelties tho. Just base + hiragana

[harsh dove]

My gmk sumi is sadly sitting in the closet

with novelties, spacebars, etc

[solid plume]

Willing to part ways?

[harsh dove]

Nope

[solid plume]

🥲

I tried

😂😂😂

Anyone good with photoshop?

[harsh dove]

[solid plume]

Wanna see what it would look like with gold ESC / enter / Spacebars

[median spade]

Can confirm as an owner of this set

[harsh dove]

Red Bauer Lite is sex

[median spade]

There was a guy on Reddit selling sumi he took over from project keyboard for “cheap”

https://reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/1bnefva/bulk_gmk_sumi_extras_keycap_sets_artisans_desk/

[vale swan]

horny on main will lead to disasters

[median spade]

So if you can cancel your eBay order maybe

[vale swan]

163 sounds like a disaster on ebay

[median spade]

@solid plume see if you can cancel eBay order and buy from link I sent you

Can get base hiragana and novelties for $153 shipped

[solid plume]

I’m messages him but got no reply.

Messaged*

[vale swan]

inb4 scam

[median spade]

Email then

He got back to me when I sent an email

[solid plume]

Doc is hella toxic

😂😂😂

[harsh dove]

I still need to buy this set

[stray tiger]

Was on happy hour sale last week

[harsh dove]

And you didn't tell me

[median spade]

I still want purple nights, but it still being $130

Too good

[quiet bay]

🥵

That set is sexy

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/prince-purple-rain-1984-gif-14895265708533998083

[vale swan]

symbiote

[vale swan]

this could work on white

[harsh dove]

Deskmat makes me think of Stranger Things

[vale swan]

indeed

oblotzky has symbiote but its 160 eur 🤨

fucking hell

[sacred zealot]

what brand/set is this? ive been thinking i might want to do purple for my 80 when it gets here

[vale swan]

thats just for the base too

[median spade]

gmk purple nights

[harsh dove]

Didin't you also want Royal Cadet or sumn?

The purp version

not the red

[median spade]

i wanted royal cadet because it was on sale but then I was like meh

[harsh dove]

Ah okay lol

[median spade]

would rather have Hangul sublegends instead of cadet ones again

as I own crimson cadet

[harsh dove]

Yeah

Fair

Id be the same

[vale swan]

hmm yeah that would go pretty hard on the white

shame its so expensive

[median spade]

i think im only person who is not a fan of that set

[vale swan]

and i wont get the enter style caps

[median spade]

but im weird in the sense i like stuff to match match so would need a pale purple board for it

[vale swan]

symbiote?

[median spade]

yeah

i would need a board this exact color for example

https://ilumkb.com/cdn/shop/files/GMK_Symbiote_S75_004_dist_84552e8f-928e-4152-9d4d-0ac0a0860c5b.jpg?v=1699966784&width=900

[pastel vigil]

I get that.

[harsh dove]

Basically why I haven't bought it yet

[vale swan]

yeah i getcha

[pastel vigil]

I'm the same way, I wish I could get color samples of things because It bothers me when things are kinda off.

[vale swan]

yeah i'd sample all gmk sets if possible

[harsh dove]

Wooting Space Lavender Case when?

[pastel vigil]

especially when it's stupid shit like you get a white set and actually its king of beige or grey, motherfucker, this isn't white.

I shouldn't have to guess, gimme the hex code so I can see what it looks like lmao

[mystic pumice]

Wooting X GMK collab when?

[harsh dove]

Pfft

Never

[pastel vigil]

I was surprised when I got my Metropolis and they were navy not black lol

[waxen osprey]

Is the Wooting software open source?

[harsh dove]

Lot of people think that lol

[mystic pumice]

I know

[harsh dove]

I knew when I first saw em theyd be navy

[median spade]

oh yeah metropolis bamboozled a couple of people

i love it with my silver board

this how i have mine

[pastel vigil]

I love them, I got a navy freebird just for them and I have the Rama novelty too

[harsh dove]

Yeah its still a good set

[median spade]

knife in background a nice touch

[pastel vigil]

You know it had to be matching.

Metropolis wasn't what I expected but it still met/exceeded expectatinos.