🔧│keyboard_modding

[latent fern]

can never go wrong with boba u4t’s

[median spade]

Well unless you don't like heavy tactile experience

[polar girder]

Lolz

[latent fern]

valid

[pastel vigil]

Tactile is so awful 😭😭

[stray tiger]

Gateron Milky Yellow Pro's are one of my fav budget switches

[shell geode]

Milky Yellows were my first switch ever and I still use them to test out some boards 🙂

[median spade]

Adding KTT Roses and anything HMX to that

[harsh dove]

Protagonist videos out

[stray tiger]

Yeah, the copper/pc/copper looks sick.

[heady terrace]

what does 8k polling do for the new 80he coming out?

[polar girder]

Decrease latency slightly, as any form of increase in reporting speed would do for an input

But we’re talking single digit ms improvements, I’m pretty sure

60HE is already the king of low latency keyboard

8k is exciting tho

Makes me want to buy my 4th Wooting

But alas, I refuse the form factor.

FWIW

Really hoping for Mouz W but really think Spirit is too determined to win this one. And highly talented.

[pastel vigil]

based

[harsh dove]

Yessir

[pastel vigil]

Why is the 60HE saying RAAKA and not wooting? Anmd what are the ARM and AVR models?

[stray tiger]

Rakka's PCB is also called the 60HE and AVR is the early early of the Wooting 60HE

[pastel vigil]

Is the ARM the current model?

[stray tiger]

Yes

[pastel vigil]

Good to know, ty

[polar girder]

yeah with rappy snappy and 8k wooting prob back on top

hope 1k and rappy snappy stays on top also tho

I will only be happy when all devices are sub 1ms latency

[pastel vigil]

Ill only be happy when there is no latency

I actually want the devices to input before I even know I want to

[polar girder]

Nice. Good call.

[latent fern]

@pastel vigil in your gummy o-ring board are you using a tofu redux case also?

[pastel vigil]

no but I dont see why it wouldnt work

[latent fern]

ohh okay i was gonna ask if removed the middle standoffs. which case are you using?

[pastel vigil]

You have to remove the middle standoffs

The wooting PCB doesnt use those

I use the freebird60 and the alumaze

[latent fern]

oh okay got it

will the non-removable standoffs cause any issues?

[pastel vigil]

you mean the ones on the sides? They shouldnt

[latent fern]

yeah the standoffs near the Tab and the |-key i guess

[eternal osprey]

does anyone know what screw driver is used for tx ap screw in stabilizers

[pale cloud]

Do yall recommend to film jades switches or nah?

[median fog]

I'm pretty surprised response time is not more of a major deal for "gamers", since there have been released many HE boards since Wooting, but like all of them do 2-40ms worse than Wooting, but very few seem to care.
also the pros don't care for some reason, not nearly enough.

also that picture seems inaccurate, don't know where it's from, if you look at RTINGS tests, I think many of those boards do far worse than Wooting. I trust those tests more.
like people care much more about monitor latency than this seems like, when this is almost as important, especially on HE boards that do like 30ms worse and still sell very well.

[stray tiger]

That picture is from here https://eyejokerdb.com/모니터 an Independent third party Korean tech streamer considered to have some of the best methods for testing

[median fog]

a lot of those are not even relevant, like osu kbs or too big etc

[stray tiger]

Doesn't make them not relevant, just means not relevant to you

[median fog]

Rakka 60HE is also optical for example, not as precise and probably no rapid trigger, but otherwise pretty nice.

[stray tiger]

Rakke 60HE is HE just like it says and does have rapid trigger. It has a faster MCU and the results show that. It will likely be surpassed by the 80HE but smaller boards are inherently faster than larger boards (less sensors to poll/scan)

[median fog]

ok was on wrong page, hard to find that new one
called Holy60 for some reason

[stray tiger]

What graphs like this dont show is software maturity, firmware maturity, features and support. All of which Wooting sits at #1 in every category.

[median fog]

but you see it has 3 sensors in both Shift positions, and also seems like Enter, for ISO/ANSI compatibility, so seems like it's very possible to do with HE
so because of that cool thing it's actually better than Wooting already (since it's as good at other things too).

but the plate provided in the keyboard kit only supports the 60% ANSI layout and split Right Shift. If you desire other layouts, you'll need to create the plate yourself.
But silly to not have additional ISO version (plate) tho, that also supports split Shifts.
ISO always neglected, criminal
(but somehow Zoom75 manages to support everything with same plate, so it's possible after all (just probably some "issues" with inconsistent lighting) (but it's not HE, so probably easier))

[spiral anvil]

Oh yea the strap files are somewhere here right?

[slender umbra]

Probably a dumb question but can I switch the case if I bought a standard version?

And not the module version

[spiral anvil]

Yea

[median spade]

Because ISO sucks

[stray tiger]

That's a strong word. Let's just go with inferior (kidding aside, I don't mind ISO personally)

[median spade]

[agile grove]

ISO sucks... for gaming

its fine otherwise

ANSI still better tho

[harsh dove]

when you wake up late for work and realize your friend charged one of your cards $300 for his dentist bill

Said no one ever
But that’s how my morning started lol

[agile grove]

thats... odd

[spiral anvil]

Woopises?

[quiet bay]

Did he pay you back?

[harsh dove]

He will, it was just unexpected to wake up and see a $300 charge lol
, for context I let him use my card before to help pay for a dentist bill, but he never removed my card off his file, so they charged it again

[quiet bay]

Ahh so it all just a simple mistake that caused that to happen 😂

[harsh dove]

Yeah he just needs to remove my card off his account

[median spade]

Yeah that is definitely something I have never heard before

[harsh dove]

Lmao yeah I knew it’d sound random af

[left zealot]

Can confirm: putting Gateron Jade switches in the 60HE makes it sound way better 😛

Sound profile is the same as my custom board now. Only a bit louder. Could fix that by removing the weight bar in the Tofu case and putting more foam in it but i think im fine with this for now.

[still wraith]

Does anyone know if DCX keycaps interfere with north facing Lekker Switches?

[sweet oak]

Nope, just got my dcx set today and no interference

They’re quite grippy

[uncut musk]

the wooting build finally done

[stray tiger]

Vitality just busted the first part of our bracket

[still wraith]

Thank goodness cause I just ordered some (https://drop.com/buy/drop-boba-types-dcd-lunar-new-year-keycap-set?defaultSelectionIds=984428 they hella sexy imo) and I don’t wanna miss out on flashy RGB

[sweet oak]

Oh yeah those are real nice

[still wraith]

Cute little red panda, lovely build

[stray tiger]

Those are going to hide the Cheeto dust really well

[sweet oak]

[still wraith]

Lmfao I don’t eat Cheeto’s at my desk anyways but you‘re right

[sweet oak]

I went with their latte set, it’s real nice

[still wraith]

I was stuck between those https://osume.com/products/year-of-the-dragon-keycaps and the ones from drop

[sweet oak]

Heres how the drop set looks on my twoHE, no novelties so i improvised my profile buttons

[still wraith]

Looks nice especially with that mouse pad

[sweet oak]

Yep yep, kinetic labs coffee shop mat is so nice

[still wraith]

I got a boring GSR SE😅

[sweet oak]

[median spade]

Wonder why they didn't do hi profile no the tw ohe like the 60he

[pastel vigil]

nah, switch filming HE switches in general is a no

[pastel vigil]

yes

[spiral anvil]

Thank you

Going to make one in my teams colors

[pastel vigil]

ooo, would love to see the final product. I'm trying to get one of my friends to make one for me but we are both undecided on what it should look like wnad what material to use haha

[polar girder]

That’s wild

Really did not expect that

Felt like they were playing like poop early stages NGL

beauty of the playoffs

Anything can happen

This next match really makes or breaks it lol

[surreal cradle]

The pbt double shot typing is crazy

I'm so happy about my wooting

[stray tiger]

When Zywoo is on, they are money. I normally never bet against him but I did this time and regret it

[valid sun]

Is there a design file for the wooting two he available here ?
I know there is one on GitHub but it's for a 3d model, I wonder if there is one in for the dimensions on a pdf or something like that here ( a technical drawing of it for example if you don't understand ).

[austere creek]

you can get technical drawings out of the stl files

[valid sun]

Hmmm... Alright, I'll get my hands on them then, thanks.

[polar girder]

😅

[shell inlet]

Does tofu 60 case work with this

[stray tiger]

Original Tofu 60 and Tofu 60 Redux

[stray tiger]

I bet you were really nervous haha

[shell inlet]

Got the case now I need some keys any suggestions ?

[stray tiger]

Which color?

[shell inlet]

White

[stray tiger]

Then any color you like. Whats your budget and location?

[shell inlet]

70 cali

[shell inlet]

.

[stray tiger]

Try NovelKeys or CannonKeys

[spiral anvil]

Can't believe I ended up going back to the default case after everything

Hopefully the paint job makes it sound less thin as a side effect

Had to prime the mfer 3 times

[little glen]

[median spade]

Plastic sounding thin

not usually the words i hear with plastic cases

[spiral anvil]

Not the sound itself more the case being not as thick as other cases

Idk how to explain it

Like when you type you can hear its not a big chonk case

[stray tiger]

Not as resonant but also more hollow

[spiral anvil]

Yea hollow is probably a better word

[polar girder]

lol bruh

My bracket is cashed

[stray tiger]

Same

[shell quarry]

Hi guys! Have anyone here tried putting on the keycaps from Drop + Matt3o MT3 on the Wooting? I'm intrigued to see how it looks 🙂

[stray tiger]

Lots have. Check here https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1070668460905988106

[near barn]

question; is there any type of film or paint i could do to put under my keycaps to reflect rgb?

[stray tiger]

Need more information

[spiral anvil]

Like a holographic film?

You'd have to do that yourself

[latent fern]

where can you buy replacement springs for HE switches?

[spiral anvil]

On wooting site

[latent fern]

is there anywhere else?

[spiral anvil]

Not that I know of

[red crater]

just wanted to followup and say that this project is done! and holy hell do I love my new feeling board! I had no idea it would make such a huge difference to get lube+film and some slightly stiffer springs. but it feels like a whole new board and its a joy to type on

first time doing this but I fear its created higher standards for future me in regards to buying keyboards....nothing else feels right to me anymore

[pastel vigil]

Aliexpress

just search wooting springs

Wooting doesn't currently have springs on their website but its soon tm

[boreal fjord]

Yo

Does anyone know if putting tape on a plate makes a significant difference

[spiral anvil]

A bit but I personally don't like it

[latent fern]

ive never heard of this before haha

[polar girder]

Well there’s a couple different types of tape

Painters tape or tempest mod on the underside of PCB

Or moleskin on the under side

Or medical paper tape on the top side

But I guess never directly on the plate

With PC plate I don’t think I would trust it

Seems very high maintenance to execute properly

[vale swan]

I used 1 layer of paper tape on the back of my pcb and its much better

[pastel vigil]

can you link which one you use?

[tight hornet]

carbon fiber🤔

[latent fern]

jades?

it sounds really nice

[tight hornet]

yes

[marble ridge]

what are some trusted keycap sellers for europe

[undone frigate]

Should the silicone pad in the module be tight and not move when touched, or should it be a bit loose?

I noticed yesterday that in one corner, the silicone pad moved a lot when I touched it with my hand. Perhaps I will try tightening the screws in the back.

[latent fern]

how did you build your board?

[hot raven]

where did you get it ? (your cable)

[median spade]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CRV8TWN6?

[left zealot]

Got mine too yesterday. Indeed, sound way better than the original. Play fine too 🙂

[hot raven]

ok thx

[dreamy estuary]

anyone tried switching out the keycaps to ceramic and the springs in the switches to heavier ones?

[high nymph]

just install switches without transparent bottoms/top (i.e. Raptor HE)

[cedar gate]

What are the best mods to make wooring 60he my endgame keyboard

[remote jasper]

hey guys just got the raptors. I've noticed pulling keycaps off the raptors takes way more force than lekkers. is this normal or did i do something wrong?

[surreal stirrup]

L60s work fine with Cerakeys. Recently swapped to KS-20u and those work fine too. The feel will be lighter compared to a plastic keycap due to the weight of the ceramic keys

[dreamy estuary]

hmm, I was considering switching to ~70g springs. Also what are the "best" (in quality, tolerance etc.) hall effect switches that are compatible with wooting? is L60 the best in the market right now or did you switch to KS-20u because of sound/feel?

[stray tiger]

Thats fine

[harsh dove]

All mods are subjective to personal preference, and there is no endgame really, but you can also make that decision for yourself
#🪛│modding_faq is a good place to start though if you’ve never modded before

[left zealot]

Yeah exactly, your end game keyboard can be a heck of a lot different than mine. All depends on what you think is important on your board. And it may also take some time until you will find the sweetspot. Just go a head and play with it. Insert some foam, test it. Change it. Maybe insert a weight bar for the case you have if it support it and see what that does.

Change the switches around. That will make a lot of difference. I have the Gateron Jade switches in it now and that feels and sounds a heck of a lot better than the first iteration of the Lekkers. The Lekker switches are fine for gaming, but sound wise they lack a little IMO. There are also people that like the sound of the Lekker Switches, So it all depends on what YOU like 🙂

[velvet egret]

I currently got raptors and l60 at home.. due to sale on the jades im very tempted to get them and try them out.

[left zealot]

The Jades are amazing IMO. They kinda have the same sound profile as my hand lubed Akko CS Jelly Blacks. Not THAT good, but the profile is there 🙂

I could take out the weight bar in my Tofo 60 Redux, and then put some more foam in the case to it would sound better than it does now I guess.

[velvet egret]

I do type literally all day long and game at night. is the typing feeling better than raptors would you know?

[left zealot]

I don't have the raptors here currently, but the typing feel is pretty good. I'm a developer, so I too do type a lot 🙂

But i got my custom board for that. But i gotta say, i just put myself on the Wooting 60HE for a few days just to see how the typing feel is and man it's so much better than before.

I could type on this for days

The Jades won't let you down im sure. Atleast for me they feel pretty good for typing. Not to heavy, not too soft.

And as for gaming goes; Tried some counter strafing yesterday in CS2 and that goes flawlesly

[velvet egret]

alright might just give it a shot since they are on a good sale. Thanks for quick responses 🙂

From what ive read in the chat, it had been said the factory lubing is pretty good. did you end up lubing them yourself again?

if i recall correctly someone in the chat only lubed the tophousing and the spring i believe

[left zealot]

I just wanted to try them stock first. Indeed to test how the lubing from factory is. It's pretty decent

Also sound tested them next to my ear, cant really hear any nasty spring ping

Yeah i got some spare switches and just tested it again for you. No spring ping 🙂

So they did a pretty good job

[velvet egret]

Awesome thanks!

[cedar gate]

Jades are super good and I love pbt cherry profile keycaps as well with them

A pc plate can help them sound even nicer

[night knot]

would you guys recommend putting switch films on my 60he? is it worth it?

[agile grove]

doesnt do anything

[glad garden]

What keycaps do y'all think I should go with? I plan on getting the awekeys copper ones when they release but if you guys have any better ideas let me know

[polar girder]

lol I need mouz to win just so I can get one right 😅

[stray tiger]

GMK Copper

[pastel vigil]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[pastel vigil]

Where are they on sale?

[median spade]

typing all day long get a MX board and not use HE for that

HE for gaming, mx for da typing

[velvet egret]

Aliexpress multiple places.. shipping is to netherlands though. not sure if that makes a difference

[velvet egret]

how so?

[median spade]

Better mounting styles leading to more comfortable typing experience

unless you like a stiff typing experience instead all day then HE great for that

[pastel vigil]

Is there like an article or video on all the mounting styles

i just know of screw in, gasket and gummy o ring

[median spade]

A lot of the other ones are not used as much anymore, and for good reason

But there is this

Tray and Integrated being the worst imo

[velvet egret]

Which styles lead to the best overall/comfertable typing experience

[median spade]

Plateless, or some forms of gaskets are the softest

[pastel vigil]

plateless is wild

[median spade]

I like gasket with a PP or Pom plate if I’m going for comfortable

[velvet egret]

Well i did go from a ducky one 2 mini from like 2018 to my wooting 60HE. thats already a world difference to me

[vale swan]

plateless salvation

[median spade]

Yeah it’s decent

[vale swan]

way too much for me though

[median spade]

IDB60 and Kijou been the best platless I’ve tried

For feel

[vale swan]

the salvation with just 2 screws in and a normal pcb feels good enough for me

I wouldn't go for more

[primal pollen]

Wow I just got my salavation put together. Its way better than I expected

[vale swan]

Yeah I got mine in recently, its quite nice

it has the 60he+ module in it currently but it will have an MX build as well

[primal pollen]

I always wanted one but missed the first round forever ago

Glad I was monitoring this chat lol

[stray tiger]

Too flexy can be problematic for me. Makes my typing worse. A good middle ground is what I usually look for

[median spade]

I bought one for my 60he and then it was too good with my Mx build so that’s how it’s used now

[vale swan]

I managed to get the white one but my keycaps don't really match imo so need to buy new ones

[vale swan]

yeah

the 60he with the jades and fr4 plate in the salvation is enough for me

[velvet egret]

What style do you usually go for ? or is it based on multiple factors, switches/springs/mounting style?

[vale swan]

I might try the frog mini in the future too

[pastel vigil]

I agree. I don't like it mushy, but I like a tiny bit of give. Completely stiff typing experience just doesn't feel right.

[vale swan]

its based on a lot of things

[median spade]

Frog mini is best for 60he imo

I just have a silver one so don’t use it

[vale swan]

what I can tell you for sure is to avoid normal tray mount

[median spade]

Was best experience so far but if it was black would be still using it

[vale swan]

the aussie guy that has custom he plates and the frog also has silver

and i dislike silver

white with gmk dracula already looks sus

[median spade]

Hypekeyboards in Toronto has plates too

[vale swan]

I am in EU

I am definintely not going for Canada stuff

[median spade]

Still probs cheaper than Aussie land

[vale swan]

You think?

[stray tiger]

I prefer a stiffer experience to a bouncier one but I'm not a great typist and I prfer the consistency of stiffer boards. That being said, if there is a little flex it helps with fatique by the end of the day or long gaming sessions

[median spade]

Based on one of his reviews yeah

[vale swan]

Good, cuz I got pretty fucked with the salvation

[pastel vigil]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006246144052.html Tofu redux clone?

[median spade]

Anything Aussie land is just expensive

For anyone even the people who live there

[vale swan]

VAT got my ass badly

[median spade]

EU moment indeed

Wait why did you buy from us for salvation

[vale swan]

peak this

i bought it from salvuns store

[median spade]

Oh rip

[vale swan]

I came from an o ring tofu redux

[median spade]

One perk about being America

[vale swan]

I didn't dislike the sound

but the feel was stiff as fuck

I type a lot on this thing

[median spade]

Indeed

[vale swan]

i tried the redux again and it feels like I'm typing on cement

[median spade]

I gave up on my 60he as its only used for gaming so stopped caring

Trying all the cases for it

Salvation, Frog, Fjell, etc

[vale swan]

I have 3 cases for it and 3 switches so I think I'm fine

Salvation Redux and Alumaze

[median spade]

All sounded meh so now it’s just friction mounted in a freebird60

[vale swan]

og lubed L60, lubed 45 and lubed jades

[velvet egret]

Did you guys notice a big difference from going from redux -> salvation?

[vale swan]

In the salvation with 1 layer of tape it sounds as good as I could get it for an HE imo

feel wise yes

[lost badge]

\\\

[vale swan]

sound wise debatable compared to O ring

[median spade]

Yeah I hate tape mod and it made salvation not have the ping with HE

But didn’t like the sound so now it’s just Mx build

[vale swan]

yeah thats exactly my problem

tho I use no deskpad

[median spade]

But I got it for $140 so life is good

[vale swan]

Yeah

I wanna try some HMX stuff because I saw the factory lube is pretty good and they sound good

[pastel vigil]

Why is Salvation and Fjell so expensive compared to other cases that seem like they have the same material and everything?

[vale swan]

because it's not just a basic design

and salvation has a very good mount

[median spade]

Design, smaller amount of units, brass weights, materials used, etc

[vale swan]

it's nice not to risk cutting your finger when you touch the edge of your keyboard

[pastel vigil]

Still seems like a pretty steep difference, like 2/3x that of a tofu with brass weight

[vale swan]

thats a tofu redux problem

[pastel vigil]

lmao really

[vale swan]

yes

tofu has extremely sharp corners

[pastel vigil]

So happy with my freebird60

Got it for like $50 from fb marketplace, guy never used it.

[vale swan]

it is steep yes but if you dont o ring the tofu it is terrible sound wise

by comparison

with the salvation

[stray tiger]

The macchiatos are primo

[vale swan]

yeah

watched alexotos use em a lot

I tune into his streams almost daily

[pastel vigil]

I always o ring, idk why it just feels too good

[vale swan]

well i had a lot of problems with o ring because of the stabs

[median spade]

I like the clouds I have on hand

P nice

[vale swan]

I wanna buy GMK frost with first

[pastel vigil]

graveshift small o rings work with 60he screw in strabs

[vale swan]

think it'd go nicely with the white salvation

[vale swan]

Yeah ik, the issue is TX stabs with the pc plate just didnt work

stabs would bow on the sides and sound like shit

wiht the kbdfans cf plate it worked much better

[pastel vigil]

yeah tx stabs kind of hit or miss with ther wooting

[vale swan]

If i got cherry clip ins it'd work beautifully

[median spade]

Cherry clip ins never lost

[vale swan]

Wanted to get some but the shipping to o ring price ratio is insane

[median spade]

Can probably find some online with the OD and ID

[vale swan]

yeah for sure but I'm lazy af

[median spade]

And local to you

Fair lol

[vale swan]

aliexpress is a god

no customs fees no bullshit

[median spade]

Indeed

[vale swan]

it just gets to u in 2 weeks

and thats that

They stocked the KS20Us too on gat's official store there

[median spade]

I got zoom75 from a guy and he lost all the foam as I wanted to make one foam monster build. Since all my other ones are clack

And they got my back

[vale swan]

I tried putting foam again but I hate it ngl in both the redux and the salvation

I can't do foamy builds anymore

[median spade]

Yeah it’s just this one build for me for like 30 mins

I am a high pitched connoisseur

[vale swan]

I also want a louder keyboard which is why i think the KS20U is inferior to the Jades

[marble ridge]

tysm

[median spade]

I rock Jades and they’re the best so far

[vale swan]

yeah

[median spade]

But tbh HE still sucks

Compared to MX

[vale swan]

Also I feel like I'm going schizo with these keycaps

I hand lubed them and they still are shit compared to MX

does this look good? I feel like I should go with frost witch on this

at times I think it looks good but other times i think it sucks lmao

[pastel vigil]

we need more HE switches with closed bottoms

Kinda crazy jade is the only one

[median spade]

Dracula for me is a good set

[vale swan]

exactly

[vale swan]

i loved it on black

[median spade]

But somehow matches nothing

Imo

[vale swan]

but man on white its kinda hit and miss

[vale swan]

yeah it doesnt match anything but looks goated on black and purple

on white idk

a bit of a shame because I bought these recently

[median spade]

I imagine it would look good on a grey board too

[vale swan]

frost witch seems cheaper by like 10 eur than dracula funnily enough

found the reason to get it!

[median spade]

I have 11 gmk sets so I am not one to ask if you want to be dissuaded

[pastel vigil]

no bro don't say this

[vale swan]

I have been too deep into this

[pastel vigil]

I am getting there and I dont like it

lmao

[vale swan]

trust me

I have extremely expensive shit around me

[median spade]

It's too late for you now

[pastel vigil]

I only got into this like a month or two ago

[vale swan]

I wanted the 80HE too but tbh I feel like it will sound too muted with that silicone thing in it

[pastel vigil]

and I already have 3 GMK sets

[median spade]

They are readily avaible now tbh

[vale swan]

yeah

[median spade]

Been eyeing GMk purple nights lately

[vale swan]

oblotzky has a ton in stock

[median spade]

but then I would need a desk mat to match as well

and i already have 31 desk mats

[vale swan]

i dont even use a pad for my mouse anymore

[median spade]

even when gaming??

[vale swan]

yeah

I am that gone

[median spade]

p wild ngl

[spiral anvil]

Blehhh, Waiting for paint to dry is such a painnnn

[median spade]

what type of desk do you have

[vale swan]

its an ikea desk

[median spade]

i tried the no mouse pad game and couldn't ever find a desk top that worked well enough

[spiral anvil]

1 day to fully dry 3 days to cure

[vale swan]

well i have 3 mousepads i just feel like I don't like the look on my desk with them

2 artisans and a very old glorious helios hardpad

[vale swan]

that's fair enough

I used wood polish on the surface that gets moused over

its much smoother that way

the feet of the mouse will be destroyed quicker this way but they already are and I already want another mouse anyway

[fluid ravine]

Oh hey doc

Hi pops!

[vale swan]

Hello

[fluid ravine]

and tenturo

[vale swan]

I only just woke up

[fluid ravine]

yeah abt that

[vale swan]

like an hour ago

[fluid ravine]

same here...

[stray tiger]

@median spade speaking of black cases, look at the patina on the black of my Iron160

[pastel vigil]

I really want the grey on black set, but it feels insane to pay that much for them. But then again, I bought redacted, so who am I to say.

[fluid ravine]

guess how long i slept this time

[vale swan]

10 hours?

[pastel vigil]

13 hours

[fluid ravine]

bingo!

[median spade]

Feel like you would enjoy my daily drivers:

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[vale swan]

yeah I probably would

[median spade]

yoooo

[vale swan]

I like higher pitched keyboards

[median spade]

Dat looks so nice

[fluid ravine]

fr

[vale swan]

one of these days I need to get myself a unikorn and try a cherry mx switch properly modded

but not easy to do

[median spade]

I regret selling my unikorn like a dummy

been my favorite board outside f1-8x

[vale swan]

how much did you get for it

[median spade]

$1100

[vale swan]

wo

[median spade]

didn't even want to sell it

[vale swan]

w

[median spade]

I had black and traded for pink

then hated the pink a month later and coul dnever get black one back

so sold it as didn't want to ruin the ano with cerakote as was very nice

[vale swan]

i feel like black is perfect because it goes so many keycap sets

[median spade]

but here I am still unikornless 3 years later

[vale swan]

i feel like almost every GMK color works on black

[vale swan]

the old ones would call this a bait n switch

nah im jk i played too much horizon forbidden west recently

[median spade]

My Julie board is like unikorn but drier so it solved the itch

and im not paying $1200 for a unikorn

horizon fw is great

ive been laying it too and the wait was worth it

then we have ghost of tsuhima soon too

[vale swan]

i played both

Horizon on ps5 and pc and tsushima just on ps5

idk if i'll play tsushima on pc tho

it already does native 4k60 on the ps5

horizon didnt and it was a blurry mess on ps5 and controller sucks for bow and arrow

[vale swan]

600-700 would be more comfortable to me

[median spade]

Me too, and I thought when R2.1 lauched back then it would help the market

Little did I know how wrong I would be

[vale swan]

I never looked into this

how do you even get these things

is it a normal group buy or what

[median spade]

I was like r1 and r1.1 are dropping to $800 they'll go lower for sure with drop of new one

then one guy listed his r2.1 at $1700 and rest was history

[vale swan]

i bet it sold quickly cuz of fomo

[median spade]

she does drops of unikorn through

singka.kbd

It sold out in 30 seconds

[vale swan]

yeah i need to check it out but the salvation is pretty fucking nice

[median spade]

I should have got one but she changed payment processor and my card denied it as she's out of malaysia

even after I had did all the settings to make sure it wouldn't

[vale swan]

yeah I have that problem a lot with cards getting denied

usually another browser fixes it

idk how and why

Chome and Safari work the best

[slender umbra]

I could really do with some recommendation for keycaps - nordic 60% layout preferably, or simply some nice small keycap pack with spacebar

[upbeat parrot]

Hey everyone! I got a question. Is it true that regular coiled wires don't work well with Wooting? And if they do work, do you know if there will be any issue with 80HE? Also, are there any advantages to the Wooting coiled cable? Thanks

[stray tiger]

You can get a kalam unikorn for $400 or less

[median spade]

also true

[vale swan]

as soon as you said nordic I was thinking of GMK Norse

[median spade]

after my experience with Kalam Kane V2 Ce

i didn't want to bother with kalamcorn

[slender umbra]

I'll check it out

[vale swan]

its really expensive though

[slender umbra]

From Omnitype?

[vale swan]

i dont think oblotzky has it

omnitype has more GMK sets iirc

NovelKeys also has some

[slender umbra]

I'm super clueless about keycaps, is GMK a specific style/type of keycap or?

[upbeat parrot]

it's a brand

[slender umbra]

Cuz I see OTC, SA and GMK here

[slender umbra]

Ah okay thx

[upbeat parrot]

usually cherry ABS double shot, with usually better quality

[vale swan]

its probably the best ABS keycaps

I personally dislike PBT and especially how pbtfans spacebars sound

also when the gmk abs shines it feels better to my hands

[upbeat parrot]

still new to keycaps and modding myself and have been thinking if I should get get a GMK set also but they're expensive and ABS vs PBT is still a question for me, so I'm trying cheaper stuff before going all-in xD

[vale swan]

my dracula is already shined on wasd lshift and the spacebar

after like 3 months

[median spade]

abs best

well gmk abs

[vale swan]

yeah

[median spade]

and pbtfans stuff not bad either

[pastel vigil]

Good ABS > Good PBT > Bad PBT > Bad ABS

[median spade]

everything else abs usually bad lol

[vale swan]

its not bad no

[pastel vigil]

Imo

[vale swan]

yes

[median spade]

yeah i agree

ill take good pbt over bad abs

[vale swan]

Drop DCX also has pretty decent ABS

[median spade]

bad abs is just the worst

oh yeah dcx too

also good

[vale swan]

pbtfans from what i've seen has more abs than pbt now which is LOL

[upbeat parrot]

maskes sense. Don't know why but somehow it does xD

I'll have to try them

[pastel vigil]

absfans

[vale swan]

these also grip on much tighter on the switches compared to my pbtfans sets(pbt)

with the pbtfans spacebar i had to get a little creative for it to not pop off with Jades

[upbeat parrot]

ever since I got into keycaps I saw many evangelion clones, but didn't have ISO. Maybe GMK has somethingalong those lines

[median spade]

spacebars are honestly the only reason i ever dislike pbt

[upbeat parrot]

really like the purple and toxic green look

[vale swan]

not to hate or anything but I fucking despise ISO enters

[median spade]

they sound so muted and are heavy so dont' return as well

[vale swan]

they sound glassy to me

like

the gmk spacebar sounds so different

it is insane

it completely changes it

i hated my jade spacebar with pbt but ever since i got abs i love it

[upbeat parrot]

sold xD modded my wooting yesterday, and the spacebar was actually the one thing I was still complaining. Holee mod and proper lubing actually solved it, but the sound is still way more clacky than the other keys

[vale swan]

Yeah i sold my other wooting too

with the plate mounts

wootility knows

[upbeat parrot]

but back to my first question, if anyone has an idea, would really help

Is it true that regular coiled wires don't work well with Wooting? And if they do work, do you know if there will be any issue with 80HE? Also, are there any advantages to the Wooting coiled cable? Thanks

[pastel vigil]

foam

[upbeat parrot]

tried it as well

the foam I got was the wrong size 😦

[pastel vigil]

taychon mode freaks out with shitty coiled cables. Wooting one is guranteed to work

[vale swan]

they have issues with tachyon iirc, the ones from wootings store dont have any issues

I still won't pick a wooting one up because I don't like the colors they offer

they dont have a full black white or purple one

[slender umbra]

Having a hard time making a choice haha

[upbeat parrot]

Yeah I've made my order already since they made it available on the website and didn't want to cancel it and make another order just to include the cable :\

tks guys

[vale swan]

I am not a financial adviser but the only way you'll ever be happy is if you buy all of them

[upbeat parrot]

I'll use the standard cable then

[pastel vigil]

The straight cable that comes with the wooting is fine

[vale swan]

its fine but ugly as shit

[upbeat parrot]

performance > looks I guess xD

[pastel vigil]

I agree, even though the yellow fits my aesthetic/desk/setup, I hate it.

[upbeat parrot]

ahahah

it did mine too but now it was themed with other colors and yellow really stands out in a wrong way

[vale swan]

i have a white case with gray and purple keycaps and a wood desk

[upbeat parrot]

but it's whatever

[vale swan]

it doesnt fit anywhere

[pastel vigil]

rip

[slender umbra]

Having trouble finding nordic layout ABS gmk keycaps, that ship to Denmark. Maxgaming seems to mostly have PBT

[vale swan]

look at NK or Omnitype

they should have something

Oblotzky is the only EU vendor out of the 3 that I know but I doubt he has something for that

[slender umbra]

Roger, thanks!

[pastel vigil]

KBDfans spring sale soon, what to expect?

[vale swan]

expect to spend a lot of money

[pastel vigil]

I was tempted with a tofu case but its lighter to just carry a knife around

[vale swan]

I wouldnt buy from them directly anyways due to the imprt fees and shit

do their aliexpress store

[pastel vigil]

You don't have to pay import fees from aliexpress?

[slender umbra]

Sometimes I believe

[vale swan]

i ordered twice from them

never paid anything

[slender umbra]

Are there sites for custom made keycaps? I don't mind a higher price

[vale swan]

one of em even had free shipping

[slender umbra]

Just wondering if there exists a website for that sort

[primal pollen]

Does anyone know why they have both black and clear silicone pads for the wooting PCB?

[marsh saffron]

etsy probably has tons

[pastel vigil]

They don't.

[tardy cove]

Like a custom color scheme? I think WASDkeyboards makes a custom made color scheme of your choice. But The Legends are kind of fixed so I don't think you could add like custom symbols you basically get what they have available

[pastel vigil]

black poron foam or clear silicon.

Unless you mean the PC plate, but that's white and black.

[primal pollen]

I mean the stick on "orings"

[pastel vigil]

ooooh gotcha

idk why I thought about plates lol

[primal pollen]

I got clear ones with my module and black ones that came with my alumaze

[tardy cove]

Each only came with one color? My guess was going to be the black was for the non-show side in the clear was for anywhere the silicone might show. But it sounds like each board came with a different color in which case I have no idea lol

[primal pollen]

Yup I have no clue why they came like that. Makes no difference though was just wondering.

[vivid jasper]

I found the white ones, does anyone know where they came from yet? I can't find any information about them, maybe someone already bought them? Take a good look at the photo. https://www.aliexpress.us/item/1005006625836872.html

[pastel vigil]

Am not sure what you are asking?

What is the question?

They're legit

They're just softer lekkers

Consider them Lekker 30s instead of 45s or 60s.

https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-ks-20-magnetic-white-switch-set?VariantsId=10680

Been a thing forever

[vale swan]

this is not the same

you can tell by the stem

yes

[pastel vigil]

this is the first time you mention anything about single or double rails

if it's double rail then yeah it's the first ive heard of it

I only know the orange double rail switch

[vale swan]

this is white dual rail, the stem is way different

there are white ones now too

these are harvested from a prebuilt keyboard iirc

its funny too

these are 25 eur cheaper than the orange ones

from the gat official store

tho you have a bit of shipping

if you are doing like a pc plate with o ring or a salvation and you want a quieter experience these are good

personally Jades are superior

[halcyon marsh]

any ideas how to fix this

right side regular thockish left side super springy

[pastel vigil]

Have you tried lubing the left side?

[vale swan]

lube stab and the lekker switch never gave me a consistent spacebar

but that is way too different

[brittle yew]

Yo out of curiosity what do you guys do to dampen a spacebar?
I got the gateron jade switches on my wooting so everything sounds amazing, its just the spacebar of my XDA profile keycaps is a bit too loud.
Does filling in the empty space of the spacebar help? Or not really

[primal pollen]

I use the kbdfans spacebar foam

I can tell a difference

[brittle yew]

How much does it cost lol

[polar girder]

https://nuphy.com/products/ghostbar?variant=40570735820909

I got that

Little diff

[agile grove]

you might need to balance your stabilizer wire

[boreal fjord]

Tips on stabilizer balancing

Im rebuilding my module tomorrow morning

Open to some pointers from everyone

My right stab has some thock

Left has rattle

On spacebar, left shift and right shift

How much difference do stab films make difference by any chance

[brittle yew]

Damn only if they had XDA sized ones 😔
I dont use cherry sadly

[vale swan]

@boreal fjord did you lube it properly?

[versed viper]

Anyone have a place to buy really cool looking 1x1.75 and 1x1.25 keys 🤔

I have a maroon theme

Need to replace the menu keys and the caps lock

[spiral anvil]

Bruh

The cardboard box took out half my paintjob

Looks like the paint took longer to dry then I expected

[spiral anvil]

I hate humidity

I waited 3 hours and I thought that was enough so I flipped but was still tacky so

The cardboard ripped off half my paint job on the front

I'll just have to settle for an uneven paint job at this point

My can is just about dry

I'll just clear coat my way to victory somehow

[latent fern]

theres maybe like 3mm of wiggle room on mine

[spiral anvil]

Honestly wait I think I can do this

[latent fern]

we believe in you

[spiral anvil]

2 layers of clear coat and then sand down the extra drip from trying to fill the holes

Repeat

[versed viper]

once you screw it in literally none

lemme know if you need help its not as simple as putting it in the stock case

[vale swan]

its not as simple how

you just align it with the usb port

its normal for tray mount

once you tighten the screws it will not move

[spiral anvil]

I hate how there's 1mm shift on usb port from regular cases

I would totally get a thick purple plastic case instead of painting the default case bus here we are

Gummy O-Ring?

[vale swan]

then legit gummy o ring mount it

[spiral anvil]

A 30A O-Ring should be fine

[versed viper]

corgi

I put the stock case's foam

[spiral anvil]

I'll show after I finish painting

Ughhhhh

[versed viper]

i unglued the top layer of foam and jsut used one layer and it fit great @balmy flame

[spiral anvil]

Its been like 5 days

And I'm still not doneeee

I hate waiting for paint to dry

This is literally the worst thing ever

[versed viper]

how heavy of a coat did you put

light coats man

[spiral anvil]

I didn't put heavy coats

Its just I have to wait for it to cure

[versed viper]

you dont wanna screw it at all?

you have to screw in atleast where the USB port it or it wont line up

[spiral anvil]

2 primer coats and then 3 paint coatings and now 2 clear coats

[versed viper]

with the redux you need to screw in the one closest to the port

idk why you want your board wigglying around like that

[spiral anvil]

Its really fucking humid recently so the paint isn't drying at all

I waited 3 hours and it wasn't dried fully so I have to fix a coat now

[versed viper]

maybe burger mount it so there isnt tons of wiggle?

[spiral anvil]

[versed viper]

i use over racks when i paint

or hang it on wires so you dont run into that

yeah just stay with the stock case

whats the value of no screws?

you want boune when you type?

ahh got it

it bends when you type

slightly

so it allows the no contact

Cool beans man whatever sound you like

i got a carbon plate

[vale swan]

no hotpoints

i have 4 plates

Carbon Fiber was my favorite in the tofu

tray mount is stiff no matter what but FR4 CF or PC will offer a less harsh bottom out compared to steel

its the same pcb but drilled for pcb mount stabs

why do you want wiggle room

if you dont want to use screws get a graveshift m sized o ring or a cannonkeys one

to friction mount

I'd probably just screw it in then

I know it feels and sounds better not screwed in but you will damage the pcb eventually this way

because the mounting points are right against the pcb

and if it moves a lot it will scratch it or maybe knock something off

never seen a flexy tray mount before

i need video proof of that

?

not really and not what i question marked

[quasi topaz]

its not

im dumb

lemme delete my message pls

[vale swan]

yeah but the redux isnt really designed specifically for the wooting its just a refresh for the old one with the 60% standard tray mount design

every tray mount case will have some room for the pcb to move

and every case in general

if you have the old 60he without the pcb mount stabs just order and o ring and friction mount

it will sound better than any config

except for the frog mini and salvation

yes

[spiral anvil]

I should do that

Not really no

[vale swan]

they dont feel different but they will sound better if you are unlucky with your plate mounts

[spiral anvil]

Honestly if you get good plate mounted its basically the same

[vale swan]

then keep it

if you dont have the 60He+ you can get pcb mount anyways

[untold wigeon]

thinking i might just stay with the L45's, they dont sound that bad. i think it might just be the rattle that makes them mediocre

[spiral anvil]

The rattle is the big issue

[untold wigeon]

would an acrylic tofu60 be any upgrade in sound from the stock case due to the density?

[vale swan]

Jades still rattle on my side

[untold wigeon]

$89 after shipping 🤔

[spiral anvil]

Eh probably but not really

[untold wigeon]

hm

[spiral anvil]

I just painted my default case, I'll let you know if it fixes the mass issue

[untold wigeon]

im wondering what to do for sound honestly aside from tape mod

[spiral anvil]

Geon franksteins don't rattle at all for me

[spiral anvil]

Gummy O-ring is my favorite

[untold wigeon]

im too lazy to sit there and lube each switch individually

might not even burger mount either

[vale swan]

takes some time to break in

[spiral anvil]

Rather they're too tight

[vale swan]

Yes thats what I meant

The Jades themselves still rattle a bit

nowhere near as bad as lekker but still do

[spiral anvil]

I fixed the issue by delubing a bit but still no rattle

[vale swan]

had mine for 3 months and they are handlubed

[untold wigeon]

is it even possible to make a 60he sound premium atm or should i just wait until more options release

[vale swan]

you will not make it sound like an MX keyboard

no matter what

the Jades are the closest you can get to an MX keyboard

[spiral anvil]

My best attempt

[untold wigeon]

honestly just trying to get it as thocky as possible, i love the springs of the L45's though cause they feel most similar to my A75 despite it sounding better

[spiral anvil]

Yea I don't really think you can really get more thocker than this unless you tape mod which I didn't like

[vale swan]

you can do tape mod and stick some pe foam in that bitch if thats the case

[untold wigeon]

sounds good enough to me

[vale swan]

I still handlubed my L45s despite not using them and I felt like lubing the top housing a bit helped reduce the rattle and quientend down the switch a lot

[untold wigeon]

im not that much of a stickler for sound, just prefer that rain on rocks esque sound

[spiral anvil]

Also I'm not a fan of foaming

[vale swan]

neither am I

what case and switches are those btw

[untold wigeon]

i honestly dont mind how the L45s sound aside from the rattle

[spiral anvil]

Default case with Geon franks

[untold wigeon]

i think theyre on the creamier side if im not mistaken though with just the default 60he

what's the main feature of raptorHEs ?

i forgot

[spiral anvil]

Default case is actually the best sounding after all my case rolling

[spiral anvil]

Less rattle and more thock

[untold wigeon]

i see

i was under the impression the jade's were the best sounding HE switch atm

[spiral anvil]

Basically since I swapped the plate for the PC one

Oh its been a while since I used the metal one but I believe so

[untold wigeon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_bu0FUwDXI&t=284s

this is the best sounding wooting ive seen so far

sound test at 13:45

[spiral anvil]

Honestly I just need a thicker plastic case

[fluid ravine]

oh shi this sounds prettys similar to mine

[untold wigeon]

have u tried tofu60 acrylic?

think i might go for an all clear build when i case swap but im split between getting keysterine keycaps, jelly poms, or cerakeys solely for the sound

[spiral anvil]

Haven't, it wouldn't match my color theme so I didn't try but on second thought I could probably paint it...

Ah wait fuck I'm out of primer and paint

[pastel vigil]

If two springs are the same force, but one is longer, would the longer one feel heavier?

no wait, it would feel lighter?

[spiral anvil]

The actuation force would feel lighter but the bottom out would feel heavier

[pastel vigil]

That's perfect

[vale swan]

I bet you are happy about it

we say no to thock

[fluid ravine]

not really

[vale swan]

👍

[fluid ravine]

im having mix opinions about it

[vale swan]

good

[fluid ravine]

lol

[vale swan]

if you were happy about it that'd be too easy

[fluid ravine]

it was never easy....

[vale swan]

Me after plate swapping my keyboard 5 times in 2 days

[fluid ravine]

lmfaooo

[vale swan]

what plate do u think i ended on

[fluid ravine]

prob cf

[vale swan]

pc

[fluid ravine]

damn

[vale swan]

im in the salvation

[fluid ravine]

oh

[spiral anvil]

Honestly we ball with default case

[vale swan]

for tofu it'd be 100% CF

[fluid ravine]

yeye

[vale swan]

the stock case is good

[fluid ravine]

agreed^

[vale swan]

the steel plate in it is also fine

[spiral anvil]

Aluminum isn't it ngl

[vale swan]

tbe problem is the switches

[fluid ravine]

it really isnt

[vale swan]

if you put jades or 20U's in it it'd sound much better than any $700 L60 wooting

[spiral anvil]

Tofu 60 redux acrylic is probably the only case I'd go for minus the frog mini

[fluid ravine]

acrylic..

interesting

[spiral anvil]

But you'd be paying another 250 for that

[vale swan]

i like aluminum with brass weights

[vale swan]

i paid 400 for my salvation whats another 250 for this

[spiral anvil]

Frog mini my beloved

[vale swan]

the aussie retailer is the only place I can find a new frog mini

and its only in silver

thats why I went salvation

[spiral anvil]

[vale swan]

then I ofc went with white and dont like it with gmk dracula

so now i have to get new keycaps too

I feel like I'm doing it to myself

@fluid ravine whats your take on this

[spiral anvil]

[fluid ravine]

Finding excuse to buy need keycaps?

real

something i cant do

[vale swan]

well i can't either

I wanted to get something else

with those 200 eur

I guess GMK gets them again

[fluid ravine]

see....

[vale swan]

i heard you need to polyfill the keycaps

[fluid ravine]

wtf

[vale swan]

emphasis on I heard

ifykyk

[fluid ravine]

.

..

[vale swan]

🤙

[fluid ravine]

Indeed

I do

But where the hell did that come from me?

[vale swan]

idk

[fluid ravine]

polyfill my keycaps?

i didnt say jack 💀

[vale swan]

im just making shit up

dw abt it

[fluid ravine]

good

i hope you are..

[vale swan]

someone told me you need to polyfill keycaps to have a truly thocky keyboard

😈

[fluid ravine]

cus im over here finding upgrading things for myself and buying a volleyball

[vale swan]

nice

I mainly want to change this shit desk top from wood to white

[fluid ravine]

I mainly need a new desk

and keycaps

[vale swan]

I don't need anything

but I want

and I want badly

[spiral anvil]

Blehhh

Paint drying is pain

Dry faster god damnit

[vale swan]

i saw alexotos put striker on my exact salvation and it looks kinda fire @fluid ravine still might buy frost witch tho

[fluid ravine]

Does look good yeah, would still agree to what ur saying tho

strikerss

[vale swan]

still would tho

if u know what i mean

😩

[fluid ravine]

👀

[vale swan]

thats a nice ass keyboard

[fluid ravine]

If you were to recommend me keycaps, what would you recommend

[vale swan]

honestly

those gpbt caps you have are very thick and will be the deepest i think

but idk every pbt blend sounds different

pbtfans's abs stuff is much deeper than gmk abs for example

it depends what you want

[fluid ravine]

What about aesthetics ⭐

[vale swan]

thats on u

and thats where the biggest problem is

i need to buy all GMK keycaps otherwise i will never be satisfied

[fluid ravine]

So you not gunna recommend anything? 😂
I dont have a good eye for aesthetics on board, im trying to see what kind of keycaps you would recommend that goes with my case

Not like im actually gonna buy a new set any time soon

[vale swan]

is ur shit black gray or white?

i forgot

[vale swan]

well idk,

i think you should also be financially responsible unlike me

and GMK will also make your build higher pitched

[fluid ravine]

My setup theme?

all three of those

[vale swan]

the case and kinda the setup

[fluid ravine]

Setup is black, gray, and white

case is gray

[vale swan]

i mean kinda everything works with gray

is it a very dark gray

[fluid ravine]

uh ye

wait

[vale swan]

if you want something simple you can never go wrong with WOB

you already have a pretty wild keycap set

glorious cant do keycaps for shit though

[fluid ravine]

Real

[vale swan]

their gradients are shit

[fluid ravine]

Really do stands out the most out of my setup 😂

[vale swan]

yeah

[fluid ravine]

Hate the legends

ermmm

[vale swan]

i wish alexotos would make aether again

[fluid ravine]

oo

[vale swan]

these

[fluid ravine]

oh shi

seen that b4 👀

[vale swan]

yeah

i think he said he wont run them anymore

but these looked sick

[fluid ravine]

wat

why

[vale swan]

boredom and he had some manufacturing issues with them

not sure how recent this was

I watch a lot of his videos

but he did it say atleast within the last year or so

[fluid ravine]

This gray

[vale swan]

wait

even that tofu clone has not very sharp corners

what the fuck did kbdfans think

[fluid ravine]

[vale swan]

also I dare you to use tray mount with steel plate and no foam

[fluid ravine]

Literally tho

[vale swan]

screwed in with 6 screws too

[vale swan]

...

[fluid ravine]

Should I rn?

I don't got anything other to do other than watch netflix

[vale swan]

if you want to torture yourself

[fluid ravine]

Sure

[vale swan]

didnt you have problems with the stabs?

💀

I'd just leave that bitch be

thats a nice gray tho

[fluid ravine]

It sounding stale?

Yep

[vale swan]

dracula would go kinda hard

[fluid ravine]

Pass it over....

Jk

(͡°͜ʖ͡°)

[vale swan]

well I would

but you also have to pass over 110 bucks

[fluid ravine]

u right

[vale swan]

there are white ks20u's on ali right now that are 25 eur cheaper than the normal orange ones btw

if you want to lube another set of switches

[fluid ravine]

drop the link

[vale swan]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EjzW5gl

these are 20U you can tell by the stem

[fluid ravine]

hollup

[vale swan]

these are harvested from some sort of prebuilt i think

[fluid ravine]

i didnt know abt this

hmmm

[vale swan]

ye

these are nice if you want something quiet

i feel like I should give these a try

[fluid ravine]

41 bucks

[vale swan]

for 70?

thats pretty damn good

the normal ones on ali express are 60 for 70

tho this store has shipping costs

gateron's does not

[split dagger]

I bought new switches 😊

[vale swan]

Fitting arrival date

I hope those get stem swapped

[split dagger]

Idk nothing about keyboard modding so idk

[fluid ravine]

oh shi this the real deal