🔧│keyboard_modding

[hazy citrus]

not just nvdia these days

[stray tiger]

I have an old 80mm fan blowing on the GPU now and it keeps it around 55c when streaming but the old fan doesnt have PWN so its running full blast.

The rest of the office is a disaster atm. Trying to clean today

[brazen sparrow]

What is that desk pad? I’ve never seen one like that before. Is it textured?

[stray tiger]

It's just a felt deskpad to cover the desk surface to reduce sound echo/cancellation. I got it off etsy cut into the size I wanted.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1234121741/custom-size-felt-large-desk-mat-mouse

I should have got the dark grey in hindsight

[polar girder]

Fellow 560s enjoyer. Nice

Clean setup dude

Yeah those arc cards are perfect for second streaming PC

[median spade]

Yeah, but who buys amd gpus amirite

[hazy citrus]

ppl who value their dollar

[median spade]

And value worse drivers as well as features

[hazy citrus]

i've owned many gpus from both companies over the years, in the end when im playing games I never notice if I'm on an Nvidia gpu or AMD

[median spade]

Yeah DLSS, and DLDSR alone for me would make me never use a AMD gpu

FSR and VSR are absolutely abysmal in comparison

[hazy citrus]

disagree

FS3 allows you to use upscaling in any DX11-12 game regardless of if the developer decided to implement it

[median spade]

Frame Gen bad in general tbh

Looks bad and input latency are horrid to me

Maybe in future will be good

[tight coral]

Where'd you get those monitor stands? I want some that clamp to the desk like that.

Studio monitors* to clarify.

[median spade]

And DLSS can be injected into almost any game by that logic

[hazy citrus]

I guess you're entitled to your opinion, personally i'd never be swayed to buy one thing or the other due to brand loyalty

[median spade]

If FSR and VSR were actually good I’d consider AMD

[spiral anvil]

#🔌│tech

[median spade]

But they suck in all objective comparisons

[spiral anvil]

This is keyboard modding

[median spade]

Indeed it is

[velvet egret]

Damn, Are those intel gpu's that cheap if your looking at purely stream performance? haven't really given them a look at all. focused on others things atm That's a steal if u compare it to buying a 40xx series gpu.

[velvet egret]

55C when streaming that's hella good or your rooms just very cold too

[spiral anvil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1186265045227802714/1218645074632642701/image0.jpg?ex=66086aab&is=65f5f5ab&hm=ea080bb8d48b3427ff25361442ecb2700af5ca9a3cf401a8e9f22479b35b60bd&

Anybody know of any profiles similar to KAT?

Kinda hard to find colorways for KAT

[stray tiger]

Are you just wanting the scallop profile but with a cherry height?

[spiral anvil]

Yea

[stray tiger]

Check out MTNU. It's a newer profile from GMK

[spiral anvil]

GMK

Have they fixed their QC in the last couple years?

I remember hearing horror stories

[stray otter]

LOL I said that same thing

[stray tiger]

I own roughly 30 sets and I've had maybe one issue. Plastic is plastic though and stuff does happen.

I have not tried the MTNU profile yet though

[spiral anvil]

Looks close enough

[stray otter]

Am I right that MTNU is basically a shorter SA?

[spiral anvil]

Yea

4 colors

[stray tiger]

You can read more here https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/13yh27f/new_gmk_profile_mtnu_launches_today/

[spiral anvil]

Well more options doesn't hurt

[stray tiger]

It's also PBT instead of ABS as the norm for GMK so that will either make you happy or sad if you care at all

[spiral anvil]

Happy happy

[median spade]

Good old KAT

Only had first GB that didn’t take 3.5 years

[stray tiger]

Ive never owned a single set of KAT but I did order a set from MKUltra and got screwed when he ripped everyone off. I also never got my GMK Nord set from him.

[median spade]

You didnt miss out imo

I have the first set which was just white blanks

They fall off every stab I’ve ever used easily, and just kind of meh overall

[stray tiger]

Well I missed out on my money lol

[median spade]

Fair enough

[harsh dove]

Trying the FR4

[stray tiger]

You should try the peaches on some of the other plates and see what you think too. The jades are a bit loud for aluminum likely.

[harsh dove]

Yeah I was gonna do that too

[latent fern]

is it not okay to install lekkers south facing?

[median spade]

totally fine

Mine are south facing

[latent fern]

okay thank goodness

[median spade]

it's the only right way to do it don't let these north facing apologists tell you otherwise!!!

[latent fern]

i got my 60he module and it came with a paper that says to only install north facing

[median spade]

it's just for the leds

you can use either way

[latent fern]

youre help has been amazing

thank you kind stranger

[median spade]

[latent fern]

currently lubing my lekkers haha

[harsh dove]

FR4 x Jades x Salvation is pretty nice

[median spade]

how was alu

[harsh dove]

Fuck Alu with Jades

in the Salvation at least

Its aight

[median spade]

yeah my experinece too

they were fine with raptors when i tried

[harsh dove]

I like the POM and FR4 in the Salvation

with Jades

Need to try KS20u

[quiet bay]

Gonna fix up my friend’s keyboard

[loud zephyr]

am I blind or is that front height as tall as the Eifell Tower?

[static tendon]

It looks like it’s built this way for a wrist rest that comes along with the keyboard is my guess

But yeah the keyboard is massive

What mousepad is that? Setup looks awesome

[fluid ravine]

What in the freaky frick

[static tendon]

Also did those stands come along with the speakers @stray tiger? Since I have a standing desk, those speaker stands would work great with my setup

[fluid ravine]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1234121741/custom-size-felt-large-desk-mat-mouse

[static tendon]

That’s actually amazing. Looks like @stray tiger probably got the custom sizing done. It fits extremely well

[copper arrow]

did you memorize all the key cap labels o.O

[quiet bay]

[quiet bay]

very dirty

also pretty sure it's soldered

[copper arrow]

keyboard looks great btw, but I could never image myself using it. I'd be malding over looking for a specific character xD

[quiet bay]

im going to super lube it lel

it's mx browns it doesn't matter if tactility is gone because there is no tactility lol

[quiet bay]

ty ty 🙂

[stray tiger]

Yeah I had a custom size cut so that it wouldn't sit on top of the desk clamps. As for the speaker stands, they were a separate purchase from Amazon. My entire setup is sit/stand also so everything can go up and down together.

[static tendon]

Thats awesome, would you happen to have the link to those speaker stands? I'd love to check it out

[stray tiger]

Sure Monoprice Studio Monitor Stands (600024) https://a.co/d/7GThb3H

[static tendon]

I appreciate the link, thank you

[stray tiger]

Btw I don't use that desk pad as a mouse pad, it's just to cover the desk top to reduce echo a bit and protect the surface. I still use a mouse pad as well.

[static tendon]

Yeah I got it, I've used these before. The custom sizing really caught my eye, it looks awesome. Ties everything together

[dire canopy]

anyone know a good site to get white xda double shot keycaps? its been hard tryna find xda caps

[quiet bay]

Sry for vertical picture but just took off these keycaps

mx browns 😰

I feel like the slightest hint of tactility in them

but it's nonexistant

[quiet bay]

oh man I can't desolder these switches so i can't tune the stabilizers...

[spiral anvil]

Any reason you can't desolder?

[quiet bay]

Well first, all the screws are covered by the silicone feet
and most importantly, I don't have the tool to do it

[spiral anvil]

Ah the feet are pretty easy but not having the tools is

GG

[quiet bay]

I don't have glue to put the feet back 😭

[spiral anvil]

You can use a heat gun or hair dryer to save the adhesive

[quiet bay]

probably

[spiral anvil]

But yea

[quiet bay]

just dont have the tools anyway 😢

[spiral anvil]

No soldering iron is

[quiet bay]

so now it's just the stabilizers that sound ass

[spiral anvil]

[spiral anvil]

What about just shoving super lube into them

Surely can't hurt to try since you're doing that for the switches anyway

[quiet bay]

I did

but the wire is unbalanced

[spiral anvil]

Oh

gg I guess

[quiet bay]

and I can't do anything about it

[spiral anvil]

Valiant effect

[quiet bay]

gg

[spiral anvil]

[fluid ravine]

Was relubing my stabs, just applied krytox on stem and housing, should i use it for the wire as well or continue on with dielectric

Ik personal preference but I want people to choose for me this time

[quiet bay]

what have you always used before

[fluid ravine]

Dielectric

or sometimes none

[quiet bay]

try krytox for something new 🙂

[fluid ravine]

my enter and right shift doesnt need lube on the wire

Prob my left shift as well

no rattle :D

[quiet bay]

damn

[fluid ravine]

Yeah only spacebar and backspace

[quiet bay]

so pretty much just gotta balance ur wires

[fluid ravine]

minor rattle, doesnt sound too bad

[fluid ravine]

ig so

Alr ima do krytox this time

eeee

[quiet bay]

I wish I could do more for my friend's keyboard but it's not hotswap ;-;

cause she gave me a monitor for free that she didn't need

no soldering iron...

https://tenor.com/view/stupid-cat-gif-21611765

[fluid ravine]

@quiet bay just finished lubing the wires

[quiet bay]

what do u think about them

[fluid ravine]

Stabs sound pretty good
Not the best sounding ive done but still really good

Spacebar a bit hollow..

dunno why

[quiet bay]

put something in it

[tight coral]

not your penis

[fluid ravine]

Theres already Neoprene foam in it

i think it has to do with the case foam

i put the wooting foam in, it sounded stale

so im guessing i have to take out some polyfill

[quiet bay]

🤔

you're still testing with ur wooting foam xd

[fluid ravine]

prob keep like 75% of it

yeah

Just gotta make sure ig

[quiet bay]

Gl

I think my brother has a soldering iron from when he tried to fix his controller before...

Idk if he actually does though

hopefully also has a pump incase I mess up lmao

[fluid ravine]

Idk if its better or not tbh

i removed some

sounds a bit less hollow ig

My N Keycap is scratched up for some reason

i just noticed

[spiral anvil]

Feel your pain

My dog keeps going onto my keyboard and well

[spiral anvil]

Grave O-ring and TX stabs coming in

[fluid ravine]

Nite y'all

[loud zephyr]

nitey

[stuck verge]

Is anyone going to change the stock stabs when you get the 80HE? What do you plan to use?

[tawdry tree]

TX AP screw ins for the spacebar and Staebies for the rest.

💯

[stuck verge]

https://keebcats.co.uk/products/staebies-v2-stabilisers

These?

[tawdry tree]

Correct.

[stuck verge]

Damn site only has the PCB mount TX AP

[tawdry tree]

I like the sound profile of Staebies on all but space. 😅

[tawdry tree]

Screw ins are PCB mounted, or you mean they only have clip ins?

[stuck verge]

It doesn't make it clear

https://keebcats.co.uk/products/tx-ap-stabilisers

Also betting the sold out 1.6mm is the required size for 80HE?

[tawdry tree]

Yes.

All Wooting’s PCBs are 1.6mm thick.

TX APs are widely available though, I’m sure there’s another retailer who has them in stock.

[stuck verge]

That Staebies pack contains all required stabs for 80HE, spacebar included?

[tawdry tree]

Yes.

[stuck verge]

Might just get that then.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, I like Staebies a lot personally.

You do need to hand lube them though. It’s not required but recommended.

[robust briar]

Better than durock?

[stuck verge]

I've done it before, fiddly though.

Got some BDZ and 205

@tawdry tree https://divinikey.com/collections/keyboard-stabilizers/products/tx-ap-screw-in-stabilizers

Correct?

I would just need the Base 1.6T set?

[tawdry tree]

Oh nice!

[tawdry tree]

Yes. Both TX APs and Staebies have tighter tolerances than Durocks.

Staebies more so than TX.

[robust briar]

Odamn. Gotta check them oug

Out

[tawdry tree]

Alright, but do not lube Staebies with BDZ/grease, not even the wire. Grease is too thick for the stabilizers. Using that will make them very mushy, just 205 is perfect. Same goes for TX APs.

[stuck verge]

If you were going to use only TX or Staebies, what would you go with?

[tawdry tree]

Not if you like the way your current stabilizers sound. Only if you want to try something new or looking for a different (maybe better) sound.

[robust briar]

I think I failed with mine

[tawdry tree]

I like Staebies over TX APs.

[robust briar]

I'm too lazy to bother. Gonna try when I get the 80HE

I'm quite bad at all the lubing and stuff

[stuck verge]

And whether I go TX APs or Staebies...the base kits have all I need?

[tawdry tree]

Experience builds expertise.

[tawdry tree]

Yes.

No maybe not

I don’t remember if TX called their full kit “Base” or “TKL”

[tawdry tree]

Base indeed.

[robust briar]

Where to find staebies for EU. I know maxgaming has TX

[stuck verge]

These go with the Jades nicely though

[stuck verge]

Technically a UK site by Keebkats has them

[tawdry tree]

https://oblotzky.industries/products/staebies

[tawdry tree]

They definitely would!

[stuck verge]

Does the colour of the plastic effect the sound?

[tawdry tree]

Not as far as I know.

If it does, it’s unnoticeable.

[stuck verge]

Why has God forsaken me?

[robust briar]

Lmao

[tawdry tree]

Where are you from, not from the UK right?

[stuck verge]

UK

[tawdry tree]

Shipping within the UK is like $25?

Oh, they don’t have TX APs in the UK?

[stuck verge]

Divinikey has got that shipping so wrong.

[stuck verge]

Not that I've been able to find. Only clip ins

[tawdry tree]

Clip ins are fine too but I’d just wait a bit.

The 80HE won’t ship anytime soon

So no need to pay £21 to ship an item of £18. 😅

I speak from experience.

[stuck verge]

https://www.serpentkeys.co.uk/products/tx-ap-screw-in-stabilisers?variant=45135003844778

Found a UK site

Never heard of this site so hope it's legit

That's more like it

[stuck verge]

Yes but from my experience it's get it while it's in-stock. So many in demand items go out of stock in this hobby.

Ordered

@tawdry tree Do you brush on the 205 or syringe it?

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

[tawdry tree]

I brush it on. Inside of the stabilizer housing and stem, the outside of the stem and wire, then in the hole where the wire clips into the housing.

Thin coat, you can always add more later and cleaning excess can be a pain.

[stuck verge]

Do you lube the hole for screw ins?

[tawdry tree]

Not the screw hole, nono!

[stuck verge]

oh I get you now

Where the wire goes into the stem housing lol

Thought you were talking about the hole on the PCB for a second

[tawdry tree]

Yes.

[stuck verge]

So far I got Jade switches, TX AP Stabs, GMK keycaps, zinc case. LGG USB cable. Think that's all for now.

[tawdry tree]

The whole package, awesome! Are you gonna hand lube the Jades and stabilizers before you get the 80HE?

[stuck verge]

I've done my fair share of lubing switches and find it incredibly laborious. I'm currently using Geonworks Raptors and they're the first factory lubed switches I ever used and they're fine for me. People say the jades are even better so I'm going to just go with the factory lube. Stabs I'll lube when I'm assembling the 80HE.

@tawdry tree Having said that I think the Jades arrive tomorrow. So they'll be sitting there a long time and maybe one day when I've got nothing to do I'll break out the switch opener lol

[tawdry tree]

It’s tedious for sure but with a bit of music or movie it can be enjoyable too.

[stuck verge]

Always find my fingers are sore after doing 20-30 switches, switches kind of have sharp bits.

@tawdry tree Wait are you the guy I redpilled into buying a Beast X?

[tawdry tree]

Hmm, sore of holding the switches or opening them?

[tawdry tree]

Not me 😅

[stuck verge]

Must have been a similar name. Opening them.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah probably. There are plier type openers

Those might help

[stuck verge]

Yeah I just have a push one

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

[versed viper]

What’s the most common case for the he60?

[quiet bay]

probably Tofu Redux

[versed viper]

Thanks ❤️

[tawdry tree]

I’d have to say the case it comes with. 😂😉

[quiet bay]

True but I assumed the case that people would swap it out with 😂

[versed viper]

Thanks for not being sarcastic like most people are when you ask simple questions

Oooo this case is sick

[tawdry tree]

Than Lekkers? Not really, sounds similar. Than Jades? Yes, Jades have a higher pitch sound profile.

[primal pollen]

After some extensive gaming testing lol, I have concluded that (atleast for me) the Geon Raptors are better than the jades. Jades sound and feel much better, but the Raptors have less fatigue and also rebound faster and easier for better spamming.

[polar girder]

Yeah stock raptors are nice

With lube job even nicer

[untold wigeon]

Anyone here tested the tofu60 sound compared to the alumaze60 ?

[median spade]

tofu less pingy and hollow when you add the brass weight

alumaze pretty pingy as it's just standard alu and needs the foam

[foggy iron]

is the alumaze profile really that much lower than the tofu redux?

[median spade]

yeah the front height a couple mm lower

[harsh dove]

Is it tho?

[median spade]

tofu is like 22mm

and i think the alumaze is 19mm

[foggy iron]

The back is more important for me as I couldn’t use any „height-legs“ on any keyboard because I am getting cramps

[median spade]

wooting has it with oem keycaps on their site and such so hard to say

[harsh dove]

Side by side

[median spade]

Oh interesting

[foggy iron]

Do you have one from the back?

[median spade]

back isn't going to change anything really

[foggy iron]

I don’t see a crazy difference tbh

[harsh dove]

This is with the large rubber feet

On the alumaze

Not the small ones

[foggy iron]

Thanks! Ahh that’s why.

Well i will get my alumaze tomorrow, if the high feets are ok to me I’ll maybe try to refund for a tofu😅

Looks much better imo

[harsh dove]

Yeah, with the smaller feet, it would be lower like Tenturo said

[iron bear]

Don't know why I dislike to type on the Tofu? The front seem quite the same height

[pastel vigil]

It looks like its not slanted

And the keycaps are shorter

[brazen sparrow]

Is one of those the alumaze

[iron bear]

Yes maybe the typing angle is wrong for me?

[brazen sparrow]

You may need a wrist rest

[iron bear]

I'd probably like the Tofu more with a wrist rest

[brazen sparrow]

Lower angles need wrist rests

[pastel vigil]

Wrist rest mandatory imo

[iron bear]

Will probably use the 2.8° Angle on the 80HE then

[wicked ingot]

should I replace the stabilizers when replacing l60s with jades

[untold wigeon]

So I’m thinking about replacing the keycaps eventually on the 60HE would this be an appropriate place to ask about that?

[stray otter]

Yup

[untold wigeon]

I’m really not too familiar with keycap types but it seems like PBT is universally considered good? I’m looking for something that’s not really expensive that is either all black or black on top with the letters and stuff printed on the side

And I’m just not sure where to start looking since I’ve only had one mechanical board before years ago and never replaced key caps

[iron bear]

https://www.amazon.com/PBT-Keycaps-Minimalist-Mechanical-Keyboards/dp/B0BZCDWNDH/ref=sr_1_3 Also this page has a lot of vendors to look at https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[polar girder]

The Wooting wrist rest fits the redux perfect FWIW

[median spade]

Almost too perfectly

It’s terrible with the stock 60he case imo

[halcyon plover]

hello i have question

[median spade]

But great with the tofu and freebird60

[halcyon plover]

i just got wooting module and tofu redux and idk wtf i’m doing

[untold wigeon]

Thank you for your help

[halcyon plover]

if anyone knows should i use the sound dampeners they give? and where can i find how to screw in pcb?

wooting and tofu give different sound dampeners and screws

jk figured it out

[glad garden]

What do yall recommend for metal keycaps?

I wanna do a black aluminum case with copper color keycaps but metal or near that color

[iron bear]

https://awekeys.com/pages/full-metal-keycap-set-copper-eagle It's a kickstarter though

[polar girder]

https://www.gateron.co/products/gateron-aluminum-alloy-full-set-keycap-set-chinease-year-of-tiger

lol I’m just seeing these for the first time

https://novelkeys.com/products/aluve-keycaps

https://metalkeyboards.no/store/p1/alukeycapset60.htm...

These are pre-order. But that’s what I would buy if I was getting metal keycaps. But solid aluminum is more expensive than a mixed metal

Awekeys are probably the cheapest and decent quality (from what I’ve read online they seem acceptable. No clue really tho)

[glad garden]

Thank you!

[sharp yew]

reminder that you can take off the tofu usb ring if you're friction mounting

don't be like me when i didnt find out about this

[weary tree]

mine still fits with the usb thing in

[pastel vigil]

If you run into issues, yes, otherwise no.

[sharp yew]

so is it even

[weary tree]

yeah looks fine to me

doesnt jades need long pole or something

[pastel vigil]

it is a long stem switch

I've seen it cause issues with stock stabs but for some people it also works fine

I'm one of those people

I bought long pole stabs and didn't even up needing them

[weary tree]

idk i dont have jades

just what i read in the faq

[median spade]

Just depends on keycaps

mine work just fine but im also using gmk

[pastel vigil]

Same

[primal pollen]

They do work perfectly with stock stabs and GMK caps

[tidal frigate]

What keycaps would be perfect for 80he with zinc white?

[static tendon]

Having a tough time removing switches. Any suggestions? If I pull any harder I am probably gonna snap some of the switches

There was a suggestions in the past to remove the PCB or something. I want to make sure I’m understanding it correctly before attempting it

[polar girder]

Click both front and back little things then roll it to the back. Meaning kind of pull the front out first then up

[pastel vigil]

What you ever you like

[static tendon]

Hearing some crunching noises there 😂

Some switches come out pretty easy. Others are insanely difficult to remove. I’m sure I’ll break a couple of them along the way but I’m trying to see if there’s anything else I can try

[polar girder]

Yeah you didn’t do as I recommended

You’re just wobbling back and forth

Don’t pull up in the back at first. Just leave it in place while you roll it backwards and the front pops out. Then pull the whole thing up

Make sure to have both front and back little pieces pushed in fully

[static tendon]

Let me try again

[static tendon]

I’m seeing if do it this method, I’m putting a lot more tension towards the front of the switch. The chances of me breaking the switch feel quite a bit more likely to happen this way

When I slowly wobble it, it seems to help more but still insanely difficult to remove

Even popping them back in is a challenge

[weary tree]

remove the pcb

its way easier

[tawdry tree]

The plate is tight. If you unscrew the plate taking the switches out is a lot easier.

[weary tree]

cuz the top clips dont really move

[static tendon]

@weary tree or @tawdry tree so I removed all the screws for the PCB but it’s not coming off. Is there anything else I’m missing?

[tawdry tree]

It’s most likely a bit tight on the stabilizers. If all but the stabilizer screws are removed from the bottom it is loose.

You can lift up the plate from one side, bit by bit.

Shouldn’t take force to do it.

[harsh dove]

remove stabilizer keycaps

then separate switch plate from pcb

[static tendon]

You know what, this worked for me

[tawdry tree]

Are the keycaps still on?

[static tendon]

Looks like I got it to work without pulling the stabs

Finally

[tawdry tree]

You could look into getting TX’s switch puller. It puts pressure on the entire switch instead on just a small point. It works well for me. Some switches are still tough to take out but no undoable.

[static tendon]

Now try pulling some switches out again

[static tendon]

Got any links?

I’m using this one right now

[tawdry tree]

You can push em from the back too, at least I did.

[tawdry tree]

The other one, the fatter one.

Moment

[static tendon]

Kinda looks like mine. Has the same little prongs towards the bottom

[tawdry tree]

Yeah but with this you can’t “over press” it, just to the edge of the switch and then lift up or tilt.

[static tendon]

Hmm so with the PCB off, the switches don’t really come off any easier. I now get a bunch of flex out of the polycarbonate plate, very interesting. Very different from past keyboard builds

[tawdry tree]

Not even by pressing from the bottom?

[static tendon]

Anyway I actually think I prefer the L45s luckily. I won’t fully switch to the L60s switches. I wish I had like a L50s switch or something. Just a smidge heavier

[tawdry tree]

Did you lube them with superglue maybe? 😉

[tawdry tree]

Spring packs soon..

[static tendon]

Yeah that would be nice but still needing to pull off all the switches which would be a bummer 🥹

[tawdry tree]

The more you take them in and out the easier it’ll be the next time.

[static tendon]

Oh you mean like pushing a finger underneath and pulling it at the same time with a switch pulled? This method actually works a bit better. Not easy of course but definitely helps out

Hopefully this shows it a bit

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, I did it without using a switchpuller but it could be that mine are more loose already.

[tawdry tree]

Yes exactly.

[static tendon]

Oh yeah for sure. Very helpful, thank you for the suggestions

[tawdry tree]

Yw! 👍

[static tendon]

Again I think I like the L45s for now but if I do spring swap I’ll likely pull this apart again

I’m just gonna swap the silicone for the foam this time around

@harsh dove do your switches also pull out this way?

[harsh dove]

In terms of being that difficult? No

Never had that much issue even with PCB attached

[static tendon]

I think I’ll reach out to wooting explaining this issue. It’s like the tolerance is wayyyy too tight

There’s no way it’s normal

[harsh dove]

Which plate is it?

PC?

[static tendon]

The one that comes with the module. Polycarbonate plate

Stock one too

[harsh dove]

Yeah idk, I have 4 Wooting PC plates, 2 black and 2 white, and haven't had tolerance issues

[static tendon]

Yeah, that’s certainly odd. I’ve taken apart switches before but not anywhere near this difficult. I’ve taken out about 10 of these switches so far and my fingers are aching from pulling them out

[harsh dove]

Very odd, and your switch puller looks similar to the Wooting one

I use the Wuque Studio puller

but haven't had issues with the wooting one either

[static tendon]

Mine is from RAMA works or something along that name

[harsh dove]

Ah okay

[static tendon]

Got it from some keyboard site in the past. It’s really sturdy and nice to use but even with it, having trouble

[static tendon]

Even without the PCB, this case looks great 🤯

[harsh dove]

[fluid ravine]

Cam wtf 😭

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yes-what-huh-confused-kid-gif-16656052

[static tendon]

😂

I think @harsh dove also is getting the 80HE 🤔

[fluid ravine]

Yeah

he already ordered

So did Pops

Heh me still being roleless

[fluid ravine]

Holy fak thats bootiful

[weary tree]

Considering getting a salvation. Discount looking juicy

Just not sure which colour

[fluid ravine]

How big?

[static tendon]

I love it. I think you should, it’s going for like 280$ off Novelkeys right now

[fluid ravine]

Whats the original price?

[static tendon]

It was 370$ for the longest time

[static tendon]

But they removed the PCB with it. So you can get only the case. That’s why the price went down

[fluid ravine]

👀 discount do be sounding juicy

[fluid ravine]

REAL JUICY

👀

[harsh dove]

Yeah its only 205

[static tendon]

Even better. Which site?

[harsh dove]

I got mine for $220 on black friday

[fluid ravine]

[weary tree]

Novelkeys

[harsh dove]

but mine was full kit hehe

[weary tree]

Only case tho

No pcb

[harsh dove]

yeah

[fluid ravine]

full kit?

[harsh dove]

wonder if they still give carrying case

[static tendon]

No wayyy they brought it even lower

[harsh dove]

probs not

[fluid ravine]

so pcb and everything?

[harsh dove]

yeah

[fluid ravine]

Ah

Have you done anything with the pcb?

[harsh dove]

Basically I spent $15 for a PCB and a carrying case

Not yet

I will tho

[static tendon]

185$ for soul black. So tempting to get that color as well

[fluid ravine]

Whats the plans

[static tendon]

Might just accidentally purchase it 😳🫢

[harsh dove]

Get some MX switches for it

that I like

[fluid ravine]

185

[harsh dove]

I'm surprised they have the Ecoat red in stock

[static tendon]

It was 205$ just a couple of days ago. I wonder if it’ll continue to drop in price. They must have a lot to sell it for so much lower

[fluid ravine]

I would steal somewhat immediately if i had the money

You know when does sales end?

[weary tree]

22nd

[static tendon]

I don’t think we know those details. It’s possible they’ll keep it this way until they fully run out of stock?

They won’t re-sell again from my understanding

[static tendon]

Where did you see 22nd for the sale?

[harsh dove]

Spring Cleaning Sale

Ends on 22nd

[static tendon]

Ohhh it’s the spring cleaning gooot it

[fluid ravine]

UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Well

I see

[static tendon]

Yeah 100% best price I’ve seen on it. I got mine 225$ off mechmarket so this is a steal

Brand new as well

[vernal brook]

anyone have a link too all white pbt keycaps

[fluid ravine]

So E coat, copper slag, and purple 205

others are 185

holy fk

[weary tree]

im between white and red ecoat

so hard to decide

[static tendon]

Yeah tough choices

[empty sinew]

Thats ships from usa?

[static tendon]

It should yes

[harsh dove]

https://divinikey.com/products/cherry-mx-black-clear-top-nixie-linear-switches?
Probably get these

[untold wigeon]

You can replace the springs in the switches to change how hard you have to press the keys right?

[weary tree]

not typical springs tho

they are bigger

so you can take the l45 and put them into l60 yes

[harsh dove]

bigger and non-magnetic

[weary tree]

and also cant be magnetic or that can affect it

[untold wigeon]

So are there springs one could buy to replace in the lekker60 to make them even heavier?

Or will there ever be

[weary tree]

i hear they were working on a spring pack but that was a while ago

[untold wigeon]

Okay

[static tendon]

After switching over to the foam vs silicone. I think I prefer the sound of silicone more. Makes it clack better. The foam doesn't exactly deepen it. Just mutes out the sound if anything

[fluid ravine]

"Broken-in"
Interesting

never heard of a company that would break in the lube for you

[weary tree]

broken in is like pressing the switches a lot of times

[grizzled path]

probably just in-and-outed in some hole and then put back into the jar

[weary tree]

in this case 500 000 times

[sleek grove]

Which stabs do I need for the original 60he and gateron jades to remove the wobble? I just installed the gateron switches and find the wobble distracting. Any help would be super appreciated. Thanks!

A link would be ideal!!

[weary tree]

long pole stabs

[sleek grove]

Awesome. 1.6 or 1.2?

https://divinikey.com/products/tx-ap-long-pole-stabilizers

[sleek grove]

I appreciate the help

[weary tree]

1.6

more info on the faq

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[sleek grove]

Thank you

[weary tree]

wait 60he or 60he +

[sleek grove]

60he

Not the plus variant

[weary tree]

cuz the clip in only fit the newer version

you need plate mount stabs

[sleek grove]

I thought the tx ap are plate mount

[weary tree]

that link is clip in

[sleek grove]

Oh okay

Do you have a link per chance

[weary tree]

Let me look

[sleek grove]

Great. Thanks again

[weary tree]

Not sure but this looks like it

https://divinikey.com/products/tx-ap-long-pole-plate-mount-stabilizers

Better to double check tho

[sleek grove]

Thanks

[pastel vigil]

How do yall take your pcb out when you burger mount? i cant get a grip on anything to push it out lol

[weary tree]

it doesnt take a lot of effort to take it out of burger mount

apart from screws nothing holding it back

[polar girder]

making gravity your friend and flipping it upside down, and ideally having some switches out, space bar is helpful, and pull down on the plate

be mindful of your usb port as you're pulling it out tho

[loud bough]

alumaze or tofu60 redux?

[static tendon]

Redux in my opinion. I even returned my Alumaze60

Redux is a lot heavier, in terms of aesthetics I do prefer the look of the Tofu more and I think it's overall quality is better

[weary tree]

salvation if you have the money

[quiet bay]

Burger mount? Aren't you supposed to unscrew it first before trying to pull it out?

[pastel vigil]

theres no screw slol

[weary tree]

there are screws on burger mount

[weary tree]

i think you mean gummy oring mount

[pastel vigil]

oops I did lol

[weary tree]

i pull it out from the space bar hole

take out the switch and pull it from there

just careful the usb c hole

dont damage that

[untold wigeon]

hi, im gonna get my wooting 60HE in april, what can i do to make it sound better?

[weary tree]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

all of that

[untold wigeon]

thanks

[weary tree]

most important id say is lubing

[untold wigeon]

krytox?

[weary tree]

and the gummy oring mount is really good too

yeah lubing the switches

i also did tape mod

and put in polyfill instead of foam

[untold wigeon]

is this the one i should get?

[weary tree]

yeah those are the ones

can get them from other sources if you want

205g0 for switches

[untold wigeon]

i have a little bit of 205g0 laying around but it is not enough for the entire keeb

[weary tree]

105g0 is good for bag lubing the springs

[untold wigeon]

alumaze or tofu redux for the best sound?

[weary tree]

i have tofu for price reasons

but im gonna get salvation

because of the insane discount

[untold wigeon]

can you send a link?

to salvation

[weary tree]

https://novelkeys.com/products/salvation-keyboard?variant=39566382661799

used to go for 370

because they didnt sell the case alone

now they do

[untold wigeon]

what makes this better than the tofu or alumaze?

[static tendon]

Not just that but just the case along with this spring sale, brings it down to 185 depending on the color you choose

[weary tree]

it has leaf springs

[static tendon]

It has leaf springs, makes it softer when typing

[weary tree]

makes it bouncy

[static tendon]

I also think it looks miles better than a Tofu case but ofc that's personal preference

I think it's also a little bit heavier

[weary tree]

i think im getting the white one

[untold wigeon]

oh i love the copper slag colour

[pastel vigil]

Sound is subjective. I have done a lot of mods and I just keep thinking the stock sounded best lol

[static tendon]

The white one has a Texture, just be aware of that before making the purchase

I am using it right now

[weary tree]

yeah the red one too

[static tendon]

The other colors feel smooth to the touch

[weary tree]

i just think it fits the white cerakeys better

[static tendon]

Not my salvation but I love this combo

[median spade]

striker and ewhite is a good combo

[static tendon]

Agreed

[spiral anvil]

https://i.etsystatic.com/26055747/r/il/6f7e6a/2966333897/il_1588xN.2966333897_r8ya.jpg

Ahhhhh this looks so good but I'm brokeeee

[quiet bay]

Love the engraving but I probably will dislike the sound profile

[spiral anvil]

This was the old case

Had to retune some switches some of them might sound sticky but this should be close to what it would sound like

[median spade]

run from, dread it, it arrives all the same

HE rattle

[remote dust]

How does one achieve this holy sound

[spiral anvil]

Wood case plus neoprene foam

Also Geon Raptor frankstein

[spiral anvil]

Its more stab rattle

[median spade]

nah it's HE rattle

[spiral anvil]

I did a pretty bad job on them original ones

[median spade]

can't get away from it

[spiral anvil]

The tolerances are literally so tight I had to delube them

It might be the overlube but I guarantee there's no rattle

Its literally too tight

[quiet bay]

hmm yeah I just cant come to like the sound a wooden case produces

[spiral anvil]

Fair

I already had Chinese keycaps with the jade theme going so I was like might as well go for wood

[median spade]

Nah there is def rattle

no one has solved yet on HE switches

unless you do the medical tape mode like pochizo

[spiral anvil]

I'll send the new sound demo when I fix the stabs

[median spade]

Yeah Im talking about your alphas

Stab rattle wasn't even something i noticed

[untold wigeon]

Does anyone know where to find keycaps like this keyboard has? The letters are completely gone without backlighting.

[median spade]

But i've used it all except ks20u (and CAM confirmed they still have HE sound) but have done jades with lubed top housing, raptor/l60 franken, raptors, etc etc and my jades the sound went away with lubed top housing for a while

but now it's just back again

[spiral anvil]

Those were overlubed so I delubed them and they've been better

Stabs come in on Wednesday so I'll fix them up and send new demo

[median spade]

I mean it does sound good for a 60he

[quiet bay]

Those are just regular blank keycaps that u can search up easily

[median spade]

but the rattle shall remain

[spiral anvil]

I don't notice it tbh

[untold wigeon]

No, blank keycaps are blank.

[spiral anvil]

I noticed it on the lekkers

[untold wigeon]

These have legends

[spiral anvil]

These not so much

[median spade]

do you have any mx boards or only HE?

[spiral anvil]

I have MX boards

[median spade]

Hmm okay

I just use my mx boards for work then come to my 60he and just hear the rattle HE sound forever and ever

Like I've done all combos as you can see here:

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[quiet bay]

oh never seen something like that beforr

[untold wigeon]

It’s made to help people learn typing

But I think it would look sick on the 60HE

[spiral anvil]

Yea maybe its just that I zone it out

[spiral anvil]

This wood case is really tempting me

[median spade]

Yeah I've just given up on HE

I only game with my wooting anyways so not sure why I even bothered modding

if I type for long periods just pull out one of my customs

[mild blade]

how do you make it sound good

[median spade]

you wear ear plugs or listen to a mx board sound test while typing on it

[quiet bay]

Yeah I think they aren’t sold separately

[untold wigeon]

I hope someone makes something like this. I’ll keep looking and maybe some day I’ll find something.

Maybe I can buy the keyboard just to steal the keycaps off of it

[median spade]

just buy blank keycaps?

[untold wigeon]

Look at what I linked

[median spade]

I did

[untold wigeon]

They are not blank keycaps

[spiral anvil]

Touch type?

And then look when you need help?

[untold wigeon]

The legends only show with the backlight on.

[median spade]

these are just rgb keycaps with black for the doubleshots

[untold wigeon]

So can you find some? I’m having trouble finding any?

I’d appreciate any help in finding a good set

[median spade]

Oh no cl;ue if someone else sells something like this

just saying what they are

[untold wigeon]

Okay. Well thank you. Maybe that will help me search

Until then I’ll just use blanks

[weary tree]

razer has the phantom keycaps i think

but the quality is not best

i heard they shine quickly

[untold wigeon]

I’ll take a look, thank you.

[quiet bay]

Its a cool concept if it’s done right

[hushed breach]

question i saw this case on the compatability sheet https://ar.aliexpress.com/item/32540926035.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2ara but they only sell in bulk so i typed it in amazon and 2 different ones popped up which one works? https://www.amazon.com/Anodizing-Aluminum-Mechanical-Keyboard-Compatible/dp/B06XKRRX3L

or

https://www.amazon.com/Anodizing-Aluminum-Mechanical-Keyboard-Compatible/dp/B06XNPN32R

[light agate]

is it worth it to switch out my stock wooting stabilizers to durock screw in stabilizers

now that i'm thinking about it more, i don't think so, nevermind 😭😭

[tawdry tree]

Absolutely not.

Something like TX APs or Staebies, sure, only if you dislike the sound and or feel of the stock stabilizers.

But Durocks require a lot of tuning to sound anywhere close to TX APs or Staebies so then you might as well tune your stock stabilizers. 🤷‍♂️

[sage flicker]

Anyone know jade vs raptor lekker stem wobble? Which has less/is better?

Also, is there a switch and stem combo that can be less wobbly than raptor with lekker stem? Just so I know for the 80HE.

Guessing I have to go either jade or raptor, but I haven't seen any jade wobble tests.

[austere creek]

lekker v2's

[sage flicker]

ah but those aren't out yet right? So we don't know for sure heh.

[austere creek]

i might also just not be the best reference. imo the lekker switches as they are have no practically impactful wobble

[tawdry tree]

Stem swapped raptors have very little stem wobble but you’ll also notice a bit of friction when you use them.

I’m not sure yet how long they have to be broken in for to make them smooth.

[crimson sky]

they are smooth from the getgo

the issue is tolerances are stupid tight

they loosen up slightly with a bit of use tho

[sage flicker]

ya i have a raptor lekker stem atm on my Ctrl key, haven't setup the rest yet on this Lekker because too lazy. Very good wobble but wondering if Jade/V2 will be even better.

[tawdry tree]

Not all mine are.

[crimson sky]

interesting

mine are very smooth

just overly tight

[tawdry tree]

Stem swapped raptors have the least stem wobble I’ve seen so far

[tawdry tree]

How long have you used them for?

[sage flicker]

cool. But we haven't seen the V2 yet right?

[crimson sky]

not enough 💀

I should get it out again

[crimson sky]

nope

[sage flicker]

Doubt V2 will beat it though but never know.

[crimson sky]

eh

raptors with lekker stems is too much

[tawdry tree]

I assume V2s are going to be comparable to the Jades.

[crimson sky]

for sure

[glacial wind]

yeah I wouldn't want v2s to be that tight

[sage flicker]

why too much? less wobble the better, no?

[glacial wind]

no

[crimson sky]

they are too tight

[sage flicker]

i don't get the downside of tightness, what's wrong with it.

[crimson sky]

the board sounds muted with that

[tawdry tree]

It feels like a heavier spring.

[sage flicker]

pssh, who cares about sound. Feel> all

[glacial wind]

less wobble up to a point is better. But too tight means it literally doesn't match your spring weight

[crimson sky]

doesn't even feel super nice

[sage flicker]

ah the spring feels heavier? lemme see

[crimson sky]

like still feels smooth

but the stems feel like someone tries to clamp on them

[sage flicker]

ah ur right, these 37gs feel like my L50s.

feels heavier

[crimson sky]

because that is precicely what happened

[sage flicker]

or the same

should feel lighter

[tawdry tree]

I think after they’re broken in they’d be worth it though

[glacial wind]

yeah exactly, it's this artificial kind of tight feel from them being a tad too tight

[crimson sky]

gotta say tho

lekker springs are prob the best stock gateron springs I have tried

[sage flicker]

aren't all springs the same? Haven't seen people talk quality of springs before.

as long as it fits HE switches

[crimson sky]

absolutely not

they vary in tolerances and noise

gateron springs tend to be noisy

even when lubed

[sage flicker]

ic

[median spade]

they do be crunch city still tho

[crimson sky]

mine are not at all

[median spade]

Are yours OG or the newer batches with stock lube from the factory

for the L60s

[crimson sky]

should be a newer one

considering I got them with the module

[median spade]

Probs just some changes then as mine are from like early 2022

[crimson sky]

rip

yea I didn't touch them at all

and they are like very serviceable

[median spade]

first time I had to do 205g0 on springs as 105/106 was not working

[crimson sky]

[tawdry tree]

Stem swapping 20Us with 20Ts is interesting. It’s very tight, very little stem wobble but the fat stem of the 20Us catches on the bottom housing of the 20Ts (and 20s too) resulting in an even shorter travel.

20U’s stem does not fit LTP/Raptor housings by the way.

[golden shore]

Is this the right tape to use for the tape mod? https://a.co/d/c18bhNh

Saw some issues with the tape being acrylic that made me have some doubts so wanted to clarify: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/s/EPgIY0jyXA

[wet hazel]

Any noticeable change on feelings/sound?

[median spade]

The even more pro gamer move

Getting that bottom out as short as possible

[forest tide]

are jade switches way better than lekkers ?

or if i may ask what is the difference

[split pecan]

they bottom out easier really all I know lmao

[forest tide]

what about the press force? like 45 or 60 ?

[split pecan]

• Initial Force: 30士7gf

• Total Travel: 3.5±0.2mm

[forest tide]

thanks, are they coming prelubed aswell ?

[split pecan]

if you order them from wooting they do

yes

[forest tide]

thanks for info ❤️

[split pecan]

np np

[stuck verge]

80HE Prepping

[austere creek]

smh hasnt even tried the lekker v2's yet

[split pecan]

😂

Yeah I am holding off on switches till I try them out

[spiral anvil]

I just delubed and that fixed the problem

You have to put the smallest bit of lube or else it gets stiff

[harsh dove]

Agreed

If you want no wobble and don’t wanna take apart two sets of switches and lube them. Just get KS20u (Peaches) and call it a day. Way less work, same results, and imo even better than stem swapped raptors cause you don’t get the friction feel from tolerances being too tight

https://tenor.com/view/sips-tea-gif-10558867

An KS20u are deeper than raptors if you’re going for that

[crimson sky]

tbh i'd rather have jades

for the closed bottom

[harsh dove]

Me too

lol

[crimson sky]

open bottom sounds kinda bad

[harsh dove]

Yeah I prefer jades over anything else rn

But in terms of wobble

Just get KS20u over raptors

[crimson sky]

too late

got them already

[harsh dove]

Haha yeah

[crimson sky]

actually just got out my wooting again

and the bottom out is silent

and the top out makes clacks

which is kinda annoying

somewhat topre-ish

[harsh dove]

Yeah that’s pretty much the whole thing with current HE

That’s why jades are the only ones that stand out rn cause of closed bottom

[sinful brook]

I have a question about O rings. Which O rings should I get to supress the noise of my two HE keyboard? Trying to find some O ring products on amazon.de

Would this be any good? https://amzn.eu/d/aDYCmW0

[real cedar]

Anyone have experience with the gateron jades yet?

[daring nest]

https://youtu.be/Z3KX_le6_vQ?si=YgQgH9QWBkJcDm6M

[tawdry tree]

Surprisingly the stem wobble on the 20Us at their resting position is more than on the 37Bs. I like how they feel but its upstroke is on the loud side still, less than KS-20s but still quite annoying to me.

[tawdry tree]

🤣🤣 0.1mm total travel distance switches when?

Also

It seems Jades and 20s are exactly the same when it comes to stem wobble. I believed Jades had a bit less stem wobble at first but the 20U’s stem fits as tight in the Jade’s bottom housing as in the KS-20s.

Both top housings and stems are identical.

So I don’t think the Jades are tighter than KS-20s/Lekkers.

[harsh dove]

They are definitely tighter

(Jades > Lekkers)

Just take your finger/tweezers and wiggle the stem on both switches

Lekkers wiggle way more

Even the top housing on lekkers move very slightly whereas Jades top housing is solid/no movement

Source: Testing it right now for the bazillionth time

[tawdry tree]

20U’s stem in 20 and 20T’s housing, I notice no difference. 20 and 20T’s stem in LTP/Raptor’s housing, I notice no difference.

[harsh dove]

That's too many changing parts for me lol

[tawdry tree]

20 top housing on 20T’s bottom housing, I notice no difference. Same vise versa.

[harsh dove]

I'm just comparing stock

[stray tiger]

Similar results here which makes sense

[harsh dove]

A stock Jade has less wobble than a stock lekker

[tawdry tree]

That’s how I do it, I think doing it by hand leaves more room for error? 😬

[harsh dove]

You can physically feel the difference in wobble with your hand

It's not hard to notice

Just use tweezers

[stray tiger]

I also think the Jades are noticeably tighter but its not significantly tighter

[harsh dove]

Yeah, it's just noticeably tighter

Raptors sswapped are even tighter but too tight for me

[stray tiger]

I plan to finish swapping my raptors this week using the old L60 stems. Ive done a few and they seemed good.

[tawdry tree]

Could be, maybe the width from rail to rail is the same but the rail “guides” are tighter. Not sure.

[stray tiger]

I do know some people had fitment issues with newer stems

[harsh dove]

Tesing rn, I'd almost say Jades stem have similar wobble to the KS20u (peaches)

They both barely move compared to stock Lekker

[brazen sparrow]

Is it worth getting the KBDFANS wob if that’s all I’m going to add to the 80HE

Like not using jades or raptors

[harsh dove]

I tried with broken in L60s and brand new L45s and they are just not for me lol, too much friction

[tawdry tree]

If you like WoB, sure!

[harsh dove]

Just feels tight when I type

Even after hand lubing

Tried with and without hand lubing

[brazen sparrow]

The pc plates lets the light bounce off and shine through the gaps in the keycaps

[tawdry tree]

I like stem swapped LTP/Raptors the most, without them being broken in yet, still.

[harsh dove]

Yeah I still have my 45 stems in my raptors from when I swapped them last time

Need to swap em back eventually

to test Lekkers v1 VS v2

[tawdry tree]

I used the KS-20’s stem and LTP’s housing those and the 20Us look the same 🤣

[harsh dove]

by LTP you mean lekker top housing?

[foggy iron]

L45 and l60 same wobble?

[harsh dove]

imo yeah

until the V2

which comes with the 80HE

[foggy iron]

Just got the 60he with l60 which arrives tomorrow, in every video you see crazy wobble which my old keyboard don’t have, hope it’s not disturbing me that much

[harsh dove]

Yeah it bothers some more than others

Just try em, see how you feel, can try hand lubing them too if you want

[foggy iron]

Does hand lubing effects less wobble?

[harsh dove]

Don't let the rest of us bait you into buying new stuff lol

Just helps with the sound mainly

Not gonna change wobble

[foggy iron]

Gonna buy the v2 anyways ig 😄

Same as tape, switch pads and spacebar foam lol

[tawdry tree]

Latenpow Whites.

Raptors but white.

[harsh dove]

Didn't know those fit

Ah

[tawdry tree]

They’re Raptors

Only with no branding on the switch, in white and a reversed polarity.

But if you’re not gonna use the stems anyway, they’re great

Like $30 for 90 switches.

[harsh dove]

So you're using the top housing from the LTPs?

on the Raptor bottoms

[tawdry tree]

The top and bottom housing.

[harsh dove]

Oh okay

with which stem?

[tawdry tree]

With a KS-20 stem

[harsh dove]

Interesting

so basically a lekker stem

[tawdry tree]

Yes

[harsh dove]

So you made your own clear raptors before Geon

Nice

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, he said he’d release them this month but

cba to wait

Has Gateron started to sell the 20Us yet?

[harsh dove]

Don't think so

[tawdry tree]

Oh nice

https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-ks-20-dual-rail-magnetic-orange-switch-sat?VariantsId=10779

[harsh dove]

Oh are they up now

Nice

[tawdry tree]

Not on their AliStore yet I don’t think.

[stray tiger]

yeah they posted on IG last week that they were "coming soon" lol. Few months behind.

[harsh dove]

Right lol

[brazen sparrow]

Can you buy jades directly from gateron?

[harsh dove]

Yes

[stray tiger]

I wont be buying many more switches until the Lekker Pro's come out

[tawdry tree]

They heavily prioritize selling to manufactures over individual consumers.

Lekker Pros haha

[harsh dove]

Same unless something really different comes out in that time frame

[tawdry tree]

Lekkerder or Heerlijk, no V2s or Pros!!!

[brazen sparrow]

OH right lekkar pros 👀

[harsh dove]

For now I'm happy with my Jades and Peaches

[brazen sparrow]

Peaches?

Wow there are a lot more switches than I thought?

[harsh dove]

lmao sorry

We call Ks20u, Peaches

[stray tiger]

I might buy some more reverse polarity switches when/if the firmware supports it.

[brazen sparrow]

How do they feel different are they all linear?

[harsh dove]

Oh definitely same

I want those Sakura Pinks

Pair em with my Olivias

[tawdry tree]

Got a bag of LTP stems and Outemu tactiles ready when and if that happens. 🙏

[harsh dove]

How are the Outemus?

[tawdry tree]

Not great, but they are tactile.

That’s all I cared about.

[harsh dove]

Haha yeah fair

[tawdry tree]

They were dirt cheap as well so didn’t expect much to begin with. 🤣

[sinful brook]

Can anyone guide me with this?

[harsh dove]

I've never tried o-rings on the switch stems or anything but I think KBDfans makes Thock Rings

[tawdry tree]

Hmm, I think you mean the sound caused by the switch’s upstroke which won’t be suppressed with O-Rings.

“Thock Rings” Lmao

[harsh dove]

Ikr

To me they're just "Mute Rings"

Based on videos I've seen

They just mute your board

[tawdry tree]

That’s all O-Rings

[harsh dove]

Pretty much

Foam o rings anyway

Damn Alex got the new GMK Symbiote's

Now I want them

(again)

[sinful brook]

I believe that still would make a lot of noise go away from the keyboard for sure.

[harsh dove]

Yeah probably

[tawdry tree]

You can try them of course. They’ll probably come up if you search keyboard O-Rings. I believe they’re M3 O-Rings originally.

[sinful brook]

thanks

[fluid ravine]

@quiet bay Just recieve a service request
Going to be modding a Yunzii AL66 Wireless keeb

Running out of Krytox tho

[quiet bay]

lmao I superlubed the mx browns

[fluid ravine]

OH hellllllll

[quiet bay]

They were soldered soo....

I didn't handlube them and I was also running out of krytox

[elfin garnet]

Which is the lightest HE switch I can get? Gave away my 60HE to a friend with L60 switches and he thinks the shift key is too heavy to hold. I wanna swap shift+control switches with something light

[harsh dove]

In terms of out of the box, lightest would be L45s, I've seen some people buy the AliExpress springs for their switches and swap them, I believe the lighest they have is 28g

[elfin garnet]

Are L45s lighter than geon raptors as well?

[harsh dove]

Yes

30cn - 45cn

Jades are 37 - 50

I don't know raptors starting but i know their end is 52g

[elfin garnet]

I have jades and like them more than the 60s. Can the AliExpress springs fit any of the HE switches?

[harsh dove]

I don't wanna say any HE switch cause there's lots, but in terms of the Wooting compatible ones, yes

[elfin garnet]

Yeah that's what I meant. So you can effectively turn L60 switches to light weight switches just by spring swapping

Interesting

Thanks

[harsh dove]

Correct, and no problem

[red crater]

just ordered a set of the 64g glorious springs and the wooting lube kit for my wooting 2 (flaretech). any tips or obvious things I should make sure I dont forget? I've never done something like this before

[wide kraken]

not sure if it's the same construction as the Two HE, but the top plate is coated and not anodized, so be careful of scratching it when pulling switches

i had to sharpie over a few oopsies on mine 😅

[quiet bay]

well ig make sure the springs aren't magnetic
not sure if it actually fits lekkers though

[wide kraken]

the ol flaretech boards are optical

[stray tiger]

Those springs wont work unfortunately

[red crater]

😢

can you recommend some that will work? I got the red 55cN switches and I was hoping to make them just a tiny bit stiffer

[stray tiger]

Wooting will have spring packs coming soon (within the next few weeks I believe) if you dont need something right now. If you do need something right now, I dont have a good source for you.

[red crater]

what makes them incompatible? I was under the impression that anything cherry compatible would work

[polar girder]

Non-magnetic