🔧│keyboard_modding

[wispy thistle]

Well there you go. #🔧│keyboard_modding message

[harsh dove]

0.1-3.5mm

[lost badge]

oh nice thank you

[wispy thistle]

Oh really I set to 3 and it wasn’t working for me wonder why

I’ll test it later again but my tab wasn’t being hit at 3

[median spade]

3a2df39c02d3e3745759a82d73bde6384c2f

that is profile code

[untold wigeon]

black rgb?

[median spade]

I don't use rgb so it's just black

[untold wigeon]

a man with taste

[boreal fjord]

Brass plate on the way

[median spade]

https://tenor.com/view/butwhy-why-gif-27438167

[boreal fjord]

Because i can

[agile grove]

thats a really bad use of money

but you do you

[shell crown]

That's a bad plate

I can say for a fact cause I tried it

[boreal fjord]

Yes

[shell crown]

I tried thinner and thicker, both are bad

[agile grove]

someone needs to make the worst sounding wooting possible

[boreal fjord]

Its going to be me

[shell crown]

I have tried 10+ plates till today

[agile grove]

god speed soldier

[median spade]

Brass is indeed awful

Stainless steel has it beat only by this much

🤏

[agile grove]

at least its stainless

[boreal fjord]

Has anyone tried pom

[harsh dove]

Yes

Best are POM, Alu, PC

And I’ll fight anyone over that

[boreal fjord]

i was originally going to try pom

[harsh dove]

But it’s your board

[boreal fjord]

Ended up getting a brass plate

[median spade]

Is it actually a brass plate for 60he

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/m4rkdoll-gif-5238933771739046910

[boreal fjord]

Yes

[median spade]

or did you just buy a random 60% brass plate

[harsh dove]

Only thing with brass is it looks good

[median spade]

I like it with tactiles for the feel but that's about it

otherwise it's awful 99% of the time

[boreal fjord]

unfortunately i have wasted money on brass from smkeyboards

[median spade]

it is what it is

you may like it who knows

[boreal fjord]

true

Its apart of the hobby

[median spade]

Everyone getting int o modding their keyboard for the first time because of wooting is just getting the experience and knowledge we've known for a long time in the keyboard hobby

[boreal fjord]

If i dont like it then ill be in the rabbit hole of wasting money until i get the right sound

i have modded a keyboard in the past but hadnt purchased a plate before

It was a gh60 mod and i believe the plate was already aluminum

[median spade]

well yeah gh60 is same as 60he p much

[boreal fjord]

Although i regret putting foam in it

[median spade]

I'm just talking about using gasket mount, gummy oring, top mount, sandwich, etc

[boreal fjord]

Tape was enough

Aaah

Nah im not gonna do all that

im just going to tape mod it and call it a day

my housing of choice is going to be wood

So im curious how brass and wood are going to sound together

Hopefully it doesnt sound like butcheeks and fart

[harsh dove]

Hate to say it but it probably will

But test it for the rest of us

Be a shining example of what not to do

[boreal fjord]

Yes i will probably be posting a video on it

[hot raven]

can i have an review about the gateron jade ?

[untold wigeon]

a

s

s

there's ur review of them right CAM

[harsh dove]

Yes

A Special Switch

A.S.S.

[harsh dove]

They the best for sound in the HE world currently

That may change when Lekker 2.0s drop

[untold wigeon]

lol got me there

[harsh dove]

Sound is subjective but a good amount of people would agree they are the best sounding HE switch rn

[fluid ravine]

Hi guys (●’◡’●)ﾉ

[harsh dove]

A lot also like the KS20u or Raptor Hybrids

[fluid ravine]

Slept for 12 hrs

[boreal fjord]

Im glad im not the only one who isnt a fan of the jades

[harsh dove]

If you don’t like clack, which most who are new to the hobby don’t, then you won’t like Jades

Some also don’t like the 3.5mm travel

[boreal fjord]

Are silvers 3.5mm?

I cant recall if gateron silver 3.5mm or 4mm

[harsh dove]

3.4

[boreal fjord]

Long story short i went black and could never go back

[hot raven]

and where i can buy them ? curently i have raptor he with stem l60

[untold wigeon]

lemme buy the raptors off you so u can buy new switches 😄

[boreal fjord]

i got my raptors while i could thank god

[polar girder]

Yeah I just swapped out the stuck raptor hybrid with an l45 and problem solved

Just my escape key so all good lol

Yeah jades suck

[median spade]

I"ve liked the jades the most of the options we have

[polar girder]

It’s a quality switch

I just prefer muted and low sound

Not loud high

[median spade]

Makes sense

it's okay we all start out nooby like that and go the other way /s

[harsh dove]

They’ll all come over the bridge eventually

[boreal fjord]

Wait has anyone made a video on a brass plate

I wanna know what you guys are talking about, i had only seen a video on petg/steel/alu and pom

For the wooting specifically*

[untold wigeon]

if anyone got frankeinsteins sitting and are planning a swap/buy new lmk ill buy em off u

[boreal fjord]

What do you currently have lmao

[untold wigeon]

l45

[pastel vigil]

I love this. I need more options for long stem switches

[polar girder]

You ok with raptor everything but the lekker stem?

Could sell you mine if:when I go lekker 2.0 lol

But not now. Sorry

[shell crown]

That is franken switch yes

[untold wigeon]

well for lekker v2 i might get then instead aswell

i kinda wanted them now

but lekker v2’s doesnt release for a couple of months no?

mark also stated they are planing on releasing thocky switches in the live they had couple days ago but no info on what those switches were or if he referred to the lekker v2’s

[polar girder]

Ok yeah I’m not selling soon. Sorry lol

[untold wigeon]

all good man

[untold wigeon]

maybe this guy but he aint answering

[lost badge]

@tawdry tree these are the pics u were asking for

idk if u can see on the vid but stabs are heavier to press kinda mushy

[tawdry tree]

You can buy LTP’s for like €18/70pcs and stem swap.

[untold wigeon]

thing is i dont wanna do it myself

[pastel vigil]

Why not?

[polar girder]

Lazy bum

That’s why

[untold wigeon]

^

[polar girder]

[pastel vigil]

If you dont know how, it's pretty easy and a good way to get comfortable. And if it's a matter of time, well other people's time is precious too so you are gonna have to pay for it.

[untold wigeon]

not if someone decides to switch from them to a new set of switches 😄

[pastel vigil]

They either sell them as 2 sets of switches or they price the one franken set the same price as 2 sets lol

That's just me though

[untold wigeon]

they can try but no one will buy it at a price of 2 sets of switches

[pastel vigil]

If they find someone even lazier than you they easily could.

[untold wigeon]

that will be hard hahaaha

[tawdry tree]

😅 It’s not a lot of work, it takes like an hour, maybe a bit over.

tf is discord doing

[untold wigeon]

nah i cba lol

[tawdry tree]

It's not as rough as some I've seen but there's a lot of tension on the plate and stabilizers. You can see the "wave" in the plate from the front and you can see the
"pins" bent because of the stress.

[lost badge]

so what i can do is sand it?

[tawdry tree]

You can test without the switch plate to see if it is caused by the tension or because of lube/grease.

If it is the tension all you can do is either use the stock stabilizers or sand the stabilizer holes wider. :/

[lost badge]

i think i would have to sand it because i use gummy mount

how do you sand it?

[lost badge]

make that part wider right?

with sandpaper?

[tawdry tree]

Yes.

[lost badge]

how much wider? just a bit?

[tawdry tree]

The red rectangle in the picture above.

[tawdry tree]

or a file.

[lost badge]

oh okayy

[tawdry tree]

But before you do, test once with the switch plate removed as that relieves all tension from the stabilizers so the should work optimally unless overlubed.

[lost badge]

okay sure ill do it now

[tawdry tree]

Alright, once it’s removed take out a switch and put it in the PCB (doesn’t matter that it’s loose), then put the keycap on and test spam. 😉

[fluid ravine]

Ah its the problem from last night

yoooooooooo

[lost badge]

okay first i need to disassemble everything right

[fluid ravine]

You can seperate the plate and switches from the pcb and stabs im pretty sure (I dont know how the screw in/clip in stabs work with the pcb and all taht)

[tawdry tree]

Yes, on the bottom of the PCB are the screws that hold the plate in place.

[lost badge]

oh i used gummy mount so there isnt any screw

[fluid ravine]

Not for the case mount

[tawdry tree]

Yeah you can.

[fluid ravine]

The screws that holds your plate and pcb together

[fluid ravine]

ah ok

[lost badge]

ah shi im confused yesterday i removed all the screws at the back and didnt put them back

[fluid ravine]

oh-

well there should be 8 screws that holds the pcb and plate together other than the ones for stabs (Unless you're using clip ins

[lost badge]

ya im using clips in

[lost badge]

damnnn hahhaa i didnt screw them back lolll

[fluid ravine]

👀

[polar girder]

I did paper tape on the top and moleskin on the bottom

[fluid ravine]

hows that so far?

[polar girder]

Fine

[fluid ravine]

was gonna ask any over heating but i suppose not

[tawdry tree]

😂😂

[polar girder]

Is that a thing

It’s only 1k polling

Better not be 😅

[fluid ravine]

again you're using paper tape so its thin

pretty sure masking tape is like thick enough for over heating

mansen said that im pretty sure

was it mansen? i forgo

[lost badge]

any idea how to remove clips in stab

[fluid ravine]

No fkin clue :D

Aligner!

[tawdry tree]

You don’t remove the stabs yet!

[lost badge]

ohh i remove the plate

[fluid ravine]

Yeah

[lost badge]

first right

not the stab

shii

okayy

[tawdry tree]

Yes!

[fluid ravine]

Oh shi you really didnt screw in the plate and pcb ;-;

[tawdry tree]

Plate so tight on the stabs he don’t need em screws

lmao

[fluid ravine]

[lost badge]

yep🥲

okk this gonna take a while

i will give an update later 😭

[tawdry tree]

All good, is it on tight?

You don’t need to remove the switches from the plate either by the way

You can try to lift up the plate slowly without forcing it

[lost badge]

how about keycap? do i need to remove them

[tawdry tree]

Only the ones that are on the stabilizers

[lost badge]

oh okay

thanks lol was about to remove everything

[tawdry tree]

Yeah I guessed so, all good!

I’ll be back in 5 min

[lost badge]

all good i will still not be done by that time

am i doing it right

ok got it out

[spring mountain]

Hey is there a thread or source here primarily for modding the Wooting Two HE? I needed a full-size keyboard since I use the numpad, pgup/pgdn a lot in my work

[polar girder]

Bruh

[lost badge]

dont scare me

[polar girder]

Attach your plate before you put in the switches

It scares me

lol

Why it’s not flat

[lost badge]

wait im removing the plate to test the stab

following aligner instructions

[polar girder]

Ok yeah idk what’s going on

Ok mb

That picture just scares me lol

Do you

[tawdry tree]

I’m back.

[lost badge]

lolll my heart is beating fast

[tawdry tree]

Seems not mushy anymore?

[lost badge]

ya i would say

[brazen sparrow]

Are those the stock stabilizers?

[lost badge]

feel much better

no tx ap clips in

[brazen sparrow]

What does that mean?

(I’m very confused)

[lost badge]

name of the stabs

[brazen sparrow]

Ah

Are the stock stabilizers fine?

[lost badge]

i think most said yes

[tawdry tree]

The stock stabilizers are fine, yes. Perfect, no.

[polar girder]

lol they’re solid

I’m using them for gummy mount no problem

No plate foam tho

Might change if i swap that in

[lost badge]

when i bought the o ring there wasnt small size

[tawdry tree]

Alright, well, only one this left to do. 🥴

[lost badge]

sand the plate then?

[polar girder]

I’m using medium rn no plate foam

[lost badge]

thought med only works with clips in?

[polar girder]

Works fine for me lol

Stock module screw ins

[tawdry tree]

If you’re sure they feel better now without the plate, then yes. Sanding or switching back to stock stabilizers and giving up gummy.

[brazen sparrow]

There is foam in between the pcb and plate on all boards right? I know it sounds stupid but I really don’t know lol.

[tawdry tree]

On all Wooting’s boards? Stock? I believe so although not sure about the 2HE.

[lost badge]

alrighttt:(( thank you for your help

[tawdry tree]

The 80HE will have silicone and the 60HE has foam stock.

[tawdry tree]

Yw man, sorry it had to be such a hassle. :/

[polar girder]

Like it comes with it but can be removed or swapped

It’s not a necessity to a working keyboard. Just changes acoustics.

[untold wigeon]

is ur pcb uneven?

or like is a side of the pcb slanted in?

[harsh dove]

Like this

Top right and bottom left have gaps

Keyboard is slanted because of screw ins and gummy mount

[untold wigeon]

^yes thanks is ur pcb like this @polar girder

[harsh dove]

And it cannot be shifted/moved around in the case because of how tight it is with screw ins

In other words you can’t fix the gap by trying to move the PCB inside the case

[tawdry tree]

Now I think about it, you might be able to go in between backspace basically excluding it with the O-Ring.

[harsh dove]

Yeah it’s because of the backspace

Mainly

[tawdry tree]

It’d put tension on backspace’s left stabilizer but might work.

You wouldn’t be able to use foam or sili pad though.

Hmm

[polar girder]

Idk I’ll check when I get home later

Guess I’m not as anal as you noobs lol

[untold wigeon]

tyty

[polar girder]

It fits and works

[lost badge]

@tawdry tree if im going to get a custom plate, what do i need to tell them solve this stabs problem?

was thinking about getting POM

[tawdry tree]

To increase the width by 0.4mm, measuring from the center of the hole.

[lost badge]

alrightt thank you

[untold wigeon]

is it worth to get a custom PC plate? i have wooting one that came with the module

[tawdry tree]

You could ask them to make it a clean rectangle too if you won’t be using plate mounted stabilizers.

Which I don’t think you wil.

[tawdry tree]

Custom PC? For what purpose?

[untold wigeon]

only sound lol so im guessing not

[tawdry tree]

Wooting selling PC plates

[untold wigeon]

ik i have it

[tawdry tree]

No I mean Woot sells them, so a different material would make a difference but getting the same material twice not so much.

[untold wigeon]

im guessing pc gets u the most thock?

[quiet bay]

pretty much

[tawdry tree]

Eh, depends really

[untold wigeon]

on?

[tawdry tree]

On everything else in your build too.

[quiet bay]

it leads to a lower pitched sound overall

[wheat mantle]

is it a good idea to do the Tape mod to the Wooting keyboard?

[quiet bay]

but ya depending on how you configure it

the pc plate will influence the sound

[quiet bay]

cheap & easy mod to do

[wheat mantle]

yup, so as long as I get an aluminum Plate

[tawdry tree]

The ATK68 for example had an aluminum plate and was filled to the brim with silicone, it was quite a deep sound and its switches are comparable to the KS-20Us.

[wheat mantle]

I've seen that it's a pretty good mod and that it reduces noise considerably, but I don't know how to do it, I'm completely new to this Keyboard Modding stuff.

[quiet bay]

you just have to get tape that isn't too sticky and doesn't leave residue

put it on the pcb

put how many layers you want

and it's optional to leave holes for the screws

[wheat mantle]

optional?

[quiet bay]

ye

you don't have to

I just take the tape off and then put it back on when I'm done 😂

[wheat mantle]

well gonna search a Tape for my wooting x'd

cause there's two types of tap e

1: the one who doesn't stick to anything

2: the one who sticks like super glue to everything

[polar girder]

Painters tape

[untold wigeon]

hows that pcb looking bruh

[polar girder]

lol I’m at work

I only used paper tape and moleskin on mine

[untold wigeon]

oh okay @ me when ur back and can show

[polar girder]

Word

[tawdry tree]

Who recognizes that logo?

[quiet bay]

looks like owlabs

[normal schooner]

washedup bitcoin logo

[tawdry tree]

It doesn’t seem like it

[quiet bay]

rotate

[harsh dove]

The raw and white zinc cases are calling to me for the 80HE

Will have to decide between the two

[untold wigeon]

u getting it?

[harsh dove]

Of course

[untold wigeon]

go in there raw bro

u aleeady have a white case no?

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[untold wigeon]

go raw

wonder which keycaps you’ll use

[quiet bay]

🤷‍♂️ if you turn your head to the right it does have a resemblance to the owlabs logo

but ig it's not it

maybe Thockfather can recognize lol

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, I searched for it just to make sure.

Saw it on twitter and the guy didn’t mention the name.

64HE triple split spacebar support

idc what it costs

[quiet bay]

did u ask or did you already and are waiting for a response? 🤔

[tawdry tree]

Asked in DMs 2 days ago

[quiet bay]

damn

[tawdry tree]

Nothin yet

[quiet bay]

good luck searching for that pcb

[tawdry tree]

Rakka has a 60/64HE PCB too but it’s not the same.

[harsh dove]

My IV Works possibly or my GMK Dualshots

Or buy another set

Waiting on that GMK Cosmos

[polar girder]

How much wider is the 80 than the 60?

I haven’t looked yet

[stone arch]

20 wider

[polar girder]

Meh

Maybe I should buy it

[old halo]

Hello, I am new here, I bought a 60HE+ module and L45 switch, now I need custom PBT keycaps and custom cases, any recommendations? Like is there any sellers providing customized products?

[polar girder]

I hate the rgb strip tho

Whole thing prob sounds better than a custom 60HE tho

[old halo]

huh?

[polar girder]

Not talking to you sorry

[hazy citrus]

pbt fans is pretty good

[harsh dove]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[hazy citrus]

and tofu redux is the popular case pick

[rapid remnant]

what's the lightest spring that will work? i was looking at 15g or 20g

[old halo]

dang

alum cases are always like around 200$?

[untold wigeon]

tofu with brass weight is 84$

[old halo]

kk

[harsh dove]

Are you trying to type on your keyboard by just looking at it?

Can’t imagine the amount of typing errors at that weight lol

But the lowest I’ve seen is 28g

It’s pretty uncommon to see stock switches go below that of 35g of bottoming out weight, as any lower and the switch stem has a hard time returning after pressing it in. Except in the instances of low-profile switches (e.g. Kailh Chocs), which can easily go as low as 20g of force at bottom out, most MX-style switches hover around 40-50g of bottom out force

[rapid remnant]

ah okay thanks

https://www.keychron.com/products/gateron-double-rail-magnetic-switch are these compatible?

[harsh dove]

I believe those are KS37Bs and if they are, they will not work

[tawdry tree]

They are.

What would be a reasonable price to pay someone for boneyard including all novelties?

$200?

[pastel vigil]

If used, yeah.

[untold wigeon]

wait what are these??

[pastel vigil]

I got a set of Metropolis + signs kit + 2x Rama keys for close to 200 shipped.

[tawdry tree]

unsealed but unused

[pastel vigil]

Yeah 200 seems fair to me if it includes shipping

[rapid remnant]

idk

[tawdry tree]

KS-20U’s brother

[rapid remnant]

so they are good?

[untold wigeon]

whaat?

u sure?

when do they release the q1?

[tawdry tree]

They’re good but not compatible.

[untold wigeon]

what

how are they not

[rapid remnant]

https://mechkeys.com/products/gateron-ks-20u?_pos=1&_sid=f95706adb&_ss=r&variant=44792748343519

[untold wigeon]

ye those work

[rapid remnant]

might be compatible after a firmware update i saw

[untold wigeon]

which ones?

[harsh dove]

KS20u works
KS37b does not

[tawdry tree]

Not these, you can see in the first two pictures.

[rapid remnant]

ah okay ill get the orange ones

[harsh dove]

Only reverse polarity switch might be made compatible in the future

[tawdry tree]

They physically don’t fit.

[harsh dove]

KS37b have a different physical design which makes them not fit

[tawdry tree]

As they require a hole through the PCB.

[untold wigeon]

good thing u edited that shit fast

[harsh dove]

Phone autocorrect (at work)

[spare mauve]

im running jades rn and I think about ordering KS20U. u tried them in your livestream - do you like them more than your jades?

[harsh dove]

Nah I like jades more personally but they are my 2nd fave HE switch currently

[dusk nacelle]

Anyone actually got their stuff delivered through axlehire???

[harsh dove]

Few peeps have

[dusk nacelle]

have their stuff arrived?

[spare mauve]

just because of the sound or is it about the typing experience too?

[polar girder]

I would say they’re both improvements on the lekkers

Jades louder more clacky. 20U’s quieter thockier. Both solid switches that have less wobble than the lekkers.

Prettt different tho for HE. but both pretty good

[harsh dove]

As far as I’m aware, yes

[harsh dove]

Sound

Can’t really care too much about typing experience on HE lol

Or at least not put too much effort into it

It’s HE at the end of the day

[dusk nacelle]

why do they use axlehire and not USPS/UPS/FedEx 😭

[harsh dove]

Not sure tbh

[dusk nacelle]

how long would it take

cus it said its been shiiped

[polar girder]

https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-deep-breath-no-gif-1479667896952987844

[fair flint]

wooting60HE

Case: F J E L L
Milkyway 2DGF dye sub PBT
Switches: Gateron Magnetic Jades
Stabilizers: Durock Plate mount V3 - Handlubed

mods= Tape Modded PCB and spacebar, band-aid mod for all stabs+ case foam.

[golden shore]

So these aren’t compatible?

[golden shore]

But these are?

[golden shore]

Ks20u over raptor frankenswitches?

[harsh dove]

For me, yes, others would probs disagree idk

I've tried franken Raptors twice now, with L60s and L45s and I just don't like it

Not for me

Rather use stock Raptors

[golden shore]

Got it. I ordered the jades but tbh after hearing a bunch of sound tests I’m not a huge fan of how loud and clacky they are. I also didn’t get lekkers with my module so if I want to do the raptor switches I’d have to re-order from wooting + raptors separately.

Would you say the ks 20us are comprable in sound to the raptors?

[harsh dove]

KS20u are deeper

Raptors are kinda clack

[fair flint]

jades, can be loud, but if u running good sound dampening mods u should be fine

[harsh dove]

Most people aren't lubing the top housing on Jades

Do that

and you're good

[fair flint]

Im totally feeling the jades, i lubed bot and top in g205 and springs with oil lube

the stem i gave a light coat in 105

[golden shore]

The sound I’m comparing is in this guys video btw since I copped the alumaze as well

https://youtu.be/RE5vwVlwCm8?si=kLKF0t7rgtZzr3dn

[fair flint]

my phone mic cant pick it up, but mine turned out way more creamy and less clacky

[golden shore]

Is there a sound test with this?

[fair flint]

i'll send a sound sample tomorrow. I don't have access to good mic rn

[golden shore]

That’d be perfect 🙏

[fair flint]

👍😊

[harsh dove]

Both Jades, different builds

[old halo]

ngl I like it, just donno if resin+ wood a good idea for cases

those who designed theses cases are really having a good taste

[golden shore]

Thanks 🙏 I think I like the top one better. What’s the difference in the builds here?

[harsh dove]

Mods list for the Tofu here @golden shore

[golden shore]

And what about the second? Also both jades are lubed the same - as in the top housing as you mentioned earlier?

[rare obsidian]

L100 got my fingers cramping already

[pastel vigil]

Never skip finger day at the gym

[harsh dove]

2nd vid is a Salvation Case, same jades, CF Plate, no case foam or pcb foam

[rare obsidian]

Let me get my 1lb springs out 🗿

[harsh dove]

1st vid is PBT caps, 2nd is GMK ABS Caps

[golden shore]

Damn alright so seems like the foam is making a huge difference. The 60HE+, alumaze comes with both plate and case foam right? Might just have to test out the jades when the come then

[harsh dove]

If you want a deeper sound yeah

I'm not using case foam or pcb foam in the tofu build

Using Polyfill

I don't really like foamy sounding boards personally

[golden shore]

It says case + plate foam here?

[harsh dove]

yeah I meant to edit that

never did

[golden shore]

Oh salvation then?

[harsh dove]

Salvation basically has no mods really

just 1 layer moleskin tape

no foam or anything

[golden shore]

Oh I got you. You meant to edit the build. Never heard of polyfill gonna look into that.

Most I’ll prob do is the foam + lube switches + tape mod and call it a day.

[fluid ravine]

What's your first?

[harsh dove]

Jades

KS20u are 2nd

[golden shore]

What’s the difference between ks20 and ks20u?

Wondering if these are the right ones https://a.co/d/aJOodw9

[harsh dove]

@golden shore I take back what I said, I did edit it lol, I just made another video for it, so the first list was correct

I forgot

switched it back now

and this would be my ideal Tofu build for the Wooting w/ Jades tbh
(Polyfill, no pcb foam)

[fluid ravine]

KS20U is a new version of the KS20. Major changes are the dual rail system (Which eliminates stem wobble).
KS20 are like the lekker 45/60 fyi

[polar girder]

little sound test while in the shooting range

sorry for the mouse on the desk noise lol

[harsh dove]

sounds good

[golden shore]

Got it. The link I sent says double rail. Do those look like the ks20u? Not sure since it says just ks20

[polar girder]

and the monitor background noise

but yeah not bad. thanks

[harsh dove]

KS20u and KS37b are both dual rail switches with different physical designs

KS20u only comes in white/orange

KS37b come in white/yellow/purple/teal

KS37b does not work with Wooting PCB

[golden shore]

You’re basically saying you can’t tell?

[harsh dove]

You can

[fluid ravine]

The stems are a different color

[harsh dove]

https://mechkeys.com/products/gateron-ks-20u?

[static tendon]

@harsh dove your Tofu build came out really nice. Still prefer the salvation over the tofu?

[fluid ravine]

Comparing to the KS20 Orange/white and the KS20u Orange/White
The KS20 Orange/White are one singular color in every parts of the switch
While the KS20U on the other hand, only the stem color is different (Meaning that the bottom housing are white and the top housing is clear while the stems are either white or orange)

[harsh dove]

Yeah I go back n forth on it lol

[static tendon]

Does the salvation feel softer due to leaf springs or do they feel about the same in terms of typing feel?

[golden shore]

sold out :/

[harsh dove]

Idk if softer is the word but just not as stiff as regular tray mount

Tofu feels nice with polyfill and gummy mount tho

[golden shore]

I appreciate the detailed description but was wondering if you could tell me if you personally think these are ks20u? 🙏

https://a.co/d/1dAK3q1

[fluid ravine]

From the pictures yeah

and discription, should we trust it?

idk

[golden shore]

Good point. Amazon has a good return policy so I might take the risk

How come there’s only two places I could find selling these?

[static tendon]

Gotcha, good to know I've been curious about the difference between the two. I don't know anyone else who currently owns a Tofu to try one out

[clear cloak]

can I still mod w the regular 60he+ vs the module 60he+

like whats the difference im confused

[golden shore]

I guess we’ll see on Thursday I just placed the order 👀

[fluid ravine]

ALR GLL

[golden shore]

Lol do places sell fake switches?

[polar girder]

Agreed

big fan

[old halo]

does anyone know the differences between tofu60 redux and 2.0?

[fluid ravine]

In freaking deed

[pastel vigil]

What is wrong with my stabs/what did i do wrong?

[polar girder]

redux is 60he compatible but 2.0 is not

[lost badge]

too tight

[polar girder]

port for 2.0 is in the center

after that i stopped paying attentiojn

[pastel vigil]

The screws are too tight?

[fluid ravine]

what stabs?

[pastel vigil]

TX AP screw ins

[fluid ravine]

gimme a few min gotta do smth, will be right back with you

[lost badge]

ya same as me bro

the plate is too tight

[polar girder]

why not just use the stock ones?

[pastel vigil]

So the screw for the plate/pcb should be loosened?

[lost badge]

no not screw

the stab

[polar girder]

if you're staying with screw-ins

I like the stock module stabs

[old halo]

aite thanks!

[polar girder]

The Tofu 1.0 is also 60HE compatible FWIW

[fluid ravine]

Wait- now i think abt it, does the TX AP Plate mount have the same problems as the clip ins and screw ins?

Cus I had the same problem momentarily

[pastel vigil]

Idk what the problems are

[lost badge]

the stab is too big for the plate

you have to sand it down to make it wider

[polar girder]

lol that’s fk’d

Why not just use stock? Lol

[lost badge]

i have the same problem but they are not stuck like yours

just slow and mushy

[old halo]

keycaps should be compatible universally right?

[stray tiger]

No

[upper tusk]

is there any new switches that are good sounding? better than the jades

[static tendon]

Apparently there's supposed to be some Lekkar 2.0 releasing but we don't know when

[tawdry tree]

One guy said and showed that plate mounted APs did as well but haven’t seen anyone but him mention that, unlike with the PCB mounted APs where it seems to be a 50/50. 🤣

[narrow furnace]

What type of switch is this ? I am new to this modding world. So don’t know a lot. But surly it sounds nice

[tawdry tree]

Picture from ba0ph4n’s plate, you can see the plate pins bent inwards towards the switch hole because the hole is too tight for the stabilizers to fit. There’s a lot of tension on the stabilizer housings making them cave slightly which causes the stabilizer stem to get stuck or slowed down because of the friction.

[tawdry tree]

KS-20T/Gateron’s Jade Magnetic Switches

[pastel vigil]

Because I I like to fiddle

If I wanted to just use it stock I'd just keep using my prebuilt lol, am building a new one for fun/to customize

[pastel vigil]

Yeah I might have to go file it some time in the future

for now I just reinstalled the stock stabs to make sure the rest of the keyboard is good to go and ill deal with that in the future lol ty

[tawdry tree]

It’d be this part that needs to be wider: #🔧│keyboard_modding message

[narrow furnace]

Ok what is gateron switch ? Is it like same red, blue ? Just another name ?

[pastel vigil]

Gatcha. On all the stabs basically

[tawdry tree]

Gateron is the brand.

[narrow furnace]

I see

[tawdry tree]

They produce many different switches, magnetic and non magnetic

[narrow furnace]

Does there also lots of variation in magnetic switches?

[tawdry tree]

There aren’t many magnetic switches available yet as HE technology in keyboards is quite new but there are around 4 compatible with Wooting’s board at the moment.

[narrow furnace]

And what are those 4?

[fringe shadow]

Perhaps it would be more accurate to say HE technology in a cherrymx like form factor. HE switches have been around since the 60s-70s

[old halo]

Is tofu redux made of aluminum?

[tawdry tree]

KS-20/Lekker (white/orange, teal/yellow), KS-20T (light blue/purple), KS-20U (white, orange) Raptor HE (red).

[tawdry tree]

Yes.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, hence “HE technology in keyboards” 😉

Which only started like 6 years ago afaik.

[fringe shadow]

I mean, they were still keyboards back in the 70s. Just the old tall switch form factor

[narrow furnace]

Which sounds the most creamy ?😁

[tawdry tree]

Really?

[fringe shadow]

Yes

[tawdry tree]

Oh wow, I didn’t know.

[tawdry tree]

Eh, KS-20Us I’d say.

[fringe shadow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_xs8_cD6l8

from mid 70s

and they made switches longer than that

[steel yarrow]

pc plate from wooting or some other plate?

i hear TP AP Long Pole screw ins work on PC plate but not FR4 and other plates

[fringe shadow]

They of course werent analog switch designs, but still were nice linears with extreme reliability

[pastel vigil]

wooting's own PC

[steel yarrow]

is ur stabs the long pole version?

[pastel vigil]

ye

[steel yarrow]

hm idk then

[pastel vigil]

the idea was to get long poles for the jades

I just reinstalled stock stabs for now, gonan file the plate later lol

[steel yarrow]

some people had success with that setup and some people didn't it seems

[tawdry tree]

https://telcontar.net/KBK/tech/Hall_effect thanks a lot, I did not know that.

[pastel vigil]

yeah i might dick around with my other wooting and see if it works on it haha

[old halo]

just in case you know about this, do you think brass weight bar is a good thing to have? like I dk if being light is good for keyboard or not, I personally don't really know my current keyboard is considered heavy or light, have no idea why ppl buy weight bars, just because they like heavy ones?

[tawdry tree]

Most who have the Tofu and the brass weight prefer with the weight.

[fringe shadow]

A keyboard sliding on your desk from being too light to get good friction from the rubber pads is... unpleasant.

[old halo]

ok I guess they have reason then, maybe light keyboards shake or slip of surface if you apply some forces while gaming I guess

[fringe shadow]

Been there before

[tawdry tree]

People prefer heavier keyboards for density, to minimize sound resonance within the case and for a sturdy, premium feel.

[old halo]

yeah that was what I think

[old halo]

oh that is a good angle

never thought that before

[tawdry tree]

👍

[old halo]

damn if I actually think about it, after all the adjusting and lubing, your keyboard's switches and strings have a resonance would be kinda annoying

[fringe shadow]

Hollow cases can sound good with clicky switches. I probably wouldnt for linears though

[old halo]

L45 linear aye?

oof

danger danger lmao

[tawdry tree]

Some cases act like a bell almost because they’re metal and have thin walls.

[old halo]

[tawdry tree]

Hollow is tricky, it can sound good or it can change the sound to something you don’t want. Most of this hobby is trial and error tbh.

[fringe shadow]

Acoustics are hard

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, that’s for sure.

[fringe shadow]

predicting how they behave with anything that isnt a circular cross section tube is unreliable

certainly not something I could manage

[tawdry tree]

With the combination of different materials and the amount of factors.

[old halo]

btw my kind heart fellows, I have been browsing keycaps all day long, havn't found what I wanted yet, I kinda want a double shot PBT key caps like this but the white part instead is transparent

I think I have a weird taste lmao

[fringe shadow]

transparent pudding caps?

Yea, I really doubt those are made

[tawdry tree]

I don’t know if there exists a white pudding keycap set?

[old halo]

I dk either

[tawdry tree]

Oh

I read it wrong, yes there are keycaps with the white part translucent but those are smokey.

[fringe shadow]

It could look incredibly awkward depending on the switch under it. its probably a gamble that most companies wouldnt really take

[tawdry tree]

There is a cheap set like that I believe but they aren’t high quality sadly.

[old halo]

I found this one is even more crazy, entirely transparent lol

I like it but the symbols and letters on the top is not very visible

wait the c key is glooming

[fringe shadow]

Yea, mid-dark gray lettering on transparent? Definitely not the most legible

[fringe shadow]

I think the C is just beacuse of that weird laser cross being projected down on it. its POSSIBLE they lettering might light up stronger with switch LEDs but hard to tell without those on an actual board

[old halo]

yeah

POLYCARBONATE

I seldom see ppl using this for keycaps

[fringe shadow]

Could be a number of reasons for it, though I dont have the experience with the material to say why

Could be more expensive to manufacture. less consistent result, more brittle, or just has some other property that isnt as valued as PBT or ABS

It probably works better with completely transparent here though

[old halo]

yeah

[boreal fjord]

Whats your guy's preference plate mounted or screw in stabs

[tawdry tree]

PCB mounted over plate mounted any day.

[boreal fjord]

Real

[grim steppe]

Is it good idea to sand FR4 KBDfans plate to make it fit TX AP stabilizers?

[tawdry tree]

I’m not sure if FR4 is easy to sand or if it’ll splinter.

I think it might be fine as you can sand carbon fiber against the grain as well.

[tawdry tree]

The only benefit of plate mounted stabilizers is that you can remove them without having to remove the switch plate first.

[boreal fjord]

i might just pass up gummy mounting

[crimson sky]

You WANT a respirator

FR4 is fiberglass

You can sand it tho

[boreal fjord]

Last question before i go off to bed but in a standard gh60 housing should i add more aftermarket foam?

Im not sure how much foam is included in the module

Havent opened my box yet

[crimson sky]

Not possible to answer that since there is no "standard" housing

[boreal fjord]

Sorry

Let me uhh rephrase

In a gh60 compatible case

I didnt get a tofu60 and opted into different brand and also lose out on the internal brass weight

Oh yea would it be stupid to tape mod and foam mod simultaneously aswell?

[crimson sky]

depends on the case

[boreal fjord]

Mmm okay

[tawdry tree]

Good point.

[boreal fjord]

Breathes in fiberglass

[tawdry tree]

💀

[pastel vigil]

It's fine, lead, asbestos, fiberglass is just our generations version of that.

[pastel vigil]

What benefit do PCB mounted stabs provide? I am under the impression pcb screw in is like the "best"

[crimson sky]

Screw in stabs are pcb mounted

[pastel vigil]

Yes that much is clear to me

[old halo]

any recommended pudding keycaps?

[narrow furnace]

@tawdry tree bro

Are gateron ks20U jade switches?

[pastel vigil]

Jades are KS-20T iirc

[grim steppe]

It’s pretty easy to slice it with utility knife. Just tried. I think it’s the safest way to make it fit TX AP stabilizers

[tawdry tree]

They’re tight, clip-ins less so than screw-ins but both are a great improvement over plate mounted stabilizers.

[pastel vigil]

and plate mounted stabilizers are always clip ins?

[tawdry tree]

Like FENlX said, Jade switches are KS-20T, KS-20U are the dual-rail switches.

[pastel vigil]

Are the 20Us basically Lekkers?

[tawdry tree]

Yes, all plate mounted stabilizers (that I know of) are clip-ins but not all clip-ins are plate mounted stabilizers, they come in PCB mounted as well.

[tawdry tree]

Yes, KS-20/Lekker version 2 basically.

[tawdry tree]

Nice! Still should probably use a respirator like Yama said. Just to be safe.

[pastel vigil]

ty, i still get confused on these lol

[tawdry tree]

Plate mounted = Clip-ins, PCB mounted = Screw-ins or clip-ins.

[grim steppe]

I will

[median spade]

snap ins for plate mount

[thorn locust]

any tips for modding my new 60HE+?

[tawdry tree]

snap in clip in whatever

[median spade]

take off the catalytic converter, and go straight pipe as well as get a tune to maximizie your horse power and torque

[thorn locust]

hmmmmmmmmm

[foggy iron]

Hey did anybody gasket mounted the 60he+ module? Which case did you case

[agile grove]

I have it in a tofu redux. I had to switch out my backspace stabilizers for clip in stabs but other than that everything works and fits great.

[polar girder]

Gasket mounted in a redux?

I don’t see how that’s possible

Gasket mount not the same as friction/gummy o-ring mount

[agile grove]

oh mb I thought they meant gummy mount since iirc true gasket mount isnt possible with the 60he

[fringe narwhal]

I heard the Magnetic jade is better than the Milky yellow pro, but is it really worth the extra $65? what’s the difference

[obsidian dagger]

it works with the keyboard

the yellow pro are not hall effect

[harsh dove]

Yeah those are two completely different switches, not really worth comparing too

[fringe narwhal]

wait whats hall affect

[cinder merlin]

wooting uses magnets for their switches, hence hall effect

U need to look for HE switches for the wooting, normal ones wont work

[fringe narwhal]

idk why but i swore i read the milky yellow pro had it

[cinder merlin]

no

[fringe narwhal]

yeah im reading it now it doesnt

[cinder merlin]

maybe a different switch from gateron

ur thinking

ks-20

[fringe narwhal]

well i have another question, i see a bunch of types of magnetic switches on the GATERON site, whats the difference between them? is it just the sound and looks

[cinder merlin]

sound, feel, looks, wobble

[fringe narwhal]

ahh thank you

id have to watch a video to see what suits me best

Also i saw that Wooting sells a polycarbonate plate, and when you order a TOFU60 redux, you can add a carbon fiber plate. someone else told me the difference is just in the sound, but that it also may cause the actuation point to not read 0.1mm due to the switch pads. is this true?

[cinder merlin]

switch pads?

switch pads are a different thing

they are stuck to the PCB not the plate

[fringe narwhal]

it says it comes with the plate

[cinder merlin]

mainly sound, I use switch pads but i dont feel the effect it has on my actuation

someone who uses the carbonfiber plate will know better

[fringe narwhal]

im new to keyboarding, so i really have no idea what any of this stuff means, all i know is what i like

I like what people call "thocc" where it sound deep, rich, and smooth. so i just want to know how i can mod a Wooting to make it like that

[cinder merlin]

polycarbonate

[fringe narwhal]

Thank you, is there anything else i should add?

[cinder merlin]

lube switches, case foam

preferred switches

rest is experiementation

certain keycaps as well

[fringe narwhal]

keycaps is another think i wanted to look into, i like those little round type ones

ill pull up a pic

[polar granite]

anyone know of the top of their head the height difference between wooting front and redux front or just if its noticible

[fringe narwhal]

these look nice, they say WHYSPXDA profile PBT

[cinder merlin]

i mean just pick what u like

some keycaps sound different but the plastic ones should be relatively similar (unless quality big diff)

if u want really different sounds u would be looking into different materal keycaps like ceramic or metal

[fringe narwhal]

Ill look into ceramic, metal are too expensive for me, im alr pushing it with a $350 keyboard

[cinder merlin]

ceramic for 60he is about 80-100

gmk keycaps can be around that price as well

[fringe narwhal]

wow that almsot the cost of the switches

[cinder merlin]

the keycaps will usually be more expensive than switches if ur going for quality stuff

if ur just going on amazon and picking out cheap keycaps, then its gna be like 20-40

[fringe narwhal]

the vids ive seen plastic will do fine, the switches seem to mae the biggest difference, so ill cheap out on keycaps

[cinder merlin]

really just depends what ur going for

no right or wrong build

[fringe narwhal]

is there a channel where everyone post their builds, i was told there was but i dont see it

[cinder merlin]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1070668460905988106

[harsh dove]

Friday gonna be a fun day

Finally getting my customs

[twilit karma]

What are some good all white coiled cables that provide all the features for the 60he? Any help would be very much appreciated ! For a wrist wrest I’m gonna wait until they come out with an a official one here

This is the aesthetic for reference

[harsh dove]

Just because they’re magnetic doesn’t make them compatible with Wooting PCB

For example the Gateron KS37Bs do not work with wooting boards even though they are Magnetic switches

They have different physical dimensions

Check the #🪛│modding_faq for most of your basic questions

More advanced questions can be answered here

[harsh dove]

Not sure on brand as there’s many to choose from but you’re ideally looking for something shorter than 6ft

Coiled cables can be tricky because the coil usually takes up most of the length and are typically longer than 6 ft

Coiled cables add more resistance

Pssst, straight cables are better

[twilit karma]

Haha really? Okay I’m barely getting into this world of keyboard and I feel like I went all out on the keyboard but nothing on the cord itself

[harsh dove]

lol yeah the coiled cable is overrated imo but it’s your room setup so do what you like

[twilit karma]

I saw that the official wooting ones are good for that but sadly the white version of it is not out yet

No no, I honestly wanted advice so this is helpful

I want performance more than aesthetic

[harsh dove]

Yeah the wooting ones are guaranteed to work, any 3rd party cable you’ll have to check specs

From my understanding most of the kinda big name 3rd party brands work

If you’re going for aesthetic and something maybe a bit more custom or personal, you can check out Randall’s work from WiredIn

https://wiredinstore.com/

All hand made stuff , shipping takes a bit because of that

[twilit karma]

Oh that’s awesome!!!

Cam, thank you so much!! You have been amazing help!

[old halo]

Talking about keycaps, 60HE+ should compatible with OEM profile right?

[obsidian dagger]

that is what it comes with

that is to say yes it is

[foggy iron]

Hey guys, which Case would you recommend for the HE+ Module? I see the tofu redux very often. Would be great if a case comes with foam 🙂

[old halo]

it does

I just ordered it

[foggy iron]

Well that’s nice 😄

[pastel vigil]

the module also comes with foam

[foggy iron]

With Case foam? Thought just between plate and pcb

[old halo]

was trying to get a fancy resin&wood case but it took months to arrive lmao, and I feel like it might be a bit awkward on my all black desk environment

[pastel vigil]

case foam too

[foggy iron]

Much Love

[devout torrent]

protagonist looks so good

[foggy iron]

Im really excited to build that board. Got an ROG azoth with shitty software 😄

[old halo]

lmao

[foggy iron]

Maybe just order the tofu redux then with durock v2 stabs

[harsh dove]

Yeah it’s nice

I got a custom Nightcrawler V2 on the way from him

[foggy iron]

For that price i could just buy the case from wooting tbh 😄 Only thing its not that „clean“ as the tofu but got a flater angle which i like

[old halo]

lol

[pine idol]

a part of my spacebar stabilizer just broke off, I have the regular 60HE in a alumaze case. What stabilizers should I get

[harsh dove]

Uhm

How

[harsh dove]

TX AP TKL Base Kit Plate Mount

[pine idol]

Was pulling the spacebar off and I guess I pulled to much to the right side and broke the plastic off one side of the stabilizer

Shitty mistake but it happeneds

[harsh dove]

Ah okay damn

Yeah just get the ones I said

[pine idol]

Okay thank you

I appreciate it

[quiet bay]

well

good excuse to get an upgrade ig 😂

[pine idol]

Yeah 😅 it still works but I know it will brother me if I don’t fix it

[fluid ravine]

Fight me Black PC better

[polar girder]

Yessssss

[quiet bay]

DEPENDS...

[harsh dove]

Black Aluminum better

[polar girder]

Oh fkkk

Me buy where

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-omg-shocked-what-the-gif-16789848374806317711

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-darkside-star-wars-evil-innerme-gif-14818845

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/sanford-fred-heart-attack-nervous-gif-24657978

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-smirk-shrek-sus-shrek-smile-gif-4983018699107868283

[grand hawk]

has anyone tried to put shine through side legend key caps (ex: higround keycaps) on the 60He? If so, how is the shine through? I know the board has north facing leds and the switches mostly aren’t see~through but I want confirmation on whether or not it works.

[near barn]

i was under the impression that higround keycaps weren't shine through

[eternal girder]

not sure about the keycaps, but you can rotate the switch 180 degrees so that the switch acts as south facing. It makes it a little dimmer, but I've done it with keyboard.

[grand hawk]

ok thanks!

[old halo]

Bro, 19.99? I am worried about the material quality

I mean, cheap is good, but is that price normal?

[grand hawk]

i have those

their mid

pudding keycaps are not usualy made with the best materials

[old halo]

but ABS are easy to wear, unless using giga good materials and, the price is gonna be high

I guess I know why

it is cheap because not double shot

okay that makes sense then

[eternal girder]

i just get my keycaps off aliexpress

[grand hawk]

if you add tape it will mimic the double shot sound but the pudding keycaps especially space bar sound hollow

[eternal girder]

i bought gmk clones off of aliexpress, and I think I perfer them over my genuine gmk set

• they're pbt too

[old halo]

dang, sadge I like pudding keycaps

what?

nah

almost more expensive then the keycaps themselves

[weary tree]

might as well get good keycaps

[wispy thistle]

do i need to put those stab stopper things in the tx ap clip ins?

nvm was easy

Does this looks good or I make holes for each of those white + signs

And for the two switch stubs

[polar girder]

Is that like a styrofoam sheet?

[wispy thistle]

pe

.5mm thick

[old halo]

guys, does anyone have black theme 60HE+ modding show case? my mouse is black, I think using white theme on 60HE+ is too eye catching on the desk

my case is tofu redux

black

struggling on choosing fancy keycaps

without breaking the black theme overall

[weary tree]

maybe topo keycaps

[old halo]

goddamn

that is smoking hot

[harsh dove]

The only time I like topo is computer wallpaper

Everytime I see it on caps, I just think Highground

[weary tree]

lmao

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/veeunus-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-squidward-done-gif-24674884

Nothing against Topo

but I have something against Highground lol

[weary tree]

ye is true tho

[fluid ravine]

Pretty sure all of us do

[celest vapor]

Australia - Cafege, https://cafege.com.au/

you guys can still buy the frog mini here and it comes with he wooting plate

[loud zephyr]

yeah, we know. Man I still need drink my coffee from Cafege https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984799440072220692/1167961783978426498/IMG_0618.JPG?ex=65ff5fac&is=65eceaac&hm=c12fb34e5239176d7b9a370c59794eafd1bb8db7864cb3f70a62f1cf8c6a4c01&

[fierce canyon]

Hey would anyone mind teling me how long it took them to get their raptor switches off geonworks' site? I was grabbing some off amazon but i think they may be a scam...

considering cancelling and grabbing them off geonworks' official site instead despite the insane shipping costs.

[loud zephyr]

Direct from Geon to Australia was less than a week but with express; the switches are OK. I certainly wouldn't be in a rush to buy them

[fierce canyon]

oh hm mk

[loud zephyr]

I'm sure he'll refine the Raptors to coincide with his own HE board

Venom I think it's called

[fierce canyon]

i want them mainly for the heavier magnets tbh

[loud zephyr]

Yeah give them a try but I doubt you'll notice much of a difference. Between the Lekker's, Raptors and Jade the performance all felt the same to me

[fierce canyon]

i've been pressing down my spacebar and A/D keys to make rapid trigger more sensitive (at the cost of actuation) and to me, at least for spacebar, it's suuuper noticable

[agile grove]

wdym? the branding isnt excessive at all.

[loud zephyr]

I see, with spacebar being jump in all my fps games, I've yet to notice whether my timing is off or not; same goes for the rest of the keys. But if you wanna experiment, definitely go for it 🙂

[fierce canyon]

yeah i'm just oversensitive to my inputs being off lol

also it was most noticable for stuff like platformers for me

like hollow knight (i'm doing unreasonably difficult modded stuff)

[loud zephyr]

That is something I've yet to try, platform games with the Wooting. So yeah, I see what you mean and how it could be impactful in regard to magnet strength

[fierce canyon]

yep

i still don't feel entirely confident with my double jumps unless i sacrifice like a whole millimeter of actuation distance by weighing down my spacebar as it recalibrates

or even basic jumps

but more-so doublejumps

stuff like this is waaaay easier the more responsive and natural my controls feel

[loud zephyr]

I think I might just to pull out Super Meat Boy and try it on the Wooting. Haven't played a platform game in so long despite my Steam wishlist filled with these kind of games

[fierce canyon]

SMB might not be the beeest game to test drive just 'cause it's got a 60fps cap

[loud zephyr]

Ahh ok

[fierce canyon]

physics are tied to the framerate too to my understanding

Celeste has a mod that lets you disable its framerate cap (its physics are NOT tied to fps, they just capped it for speedrunners and for some reason everyone else just has to live with that)

[steady sandal]

Stuffed some double sided tape in the space bar see what it does. Kinda imagine it’d be like putting hot glue but you could take it out if you don’t like

I put too much lol

[loud zephyr]

put moarrr!

[loud zephyr]

How's it sounding, are you happy with the mod?

[steady sandal]

It sounds really good

In my ears it got rid of the echo and it sounds pretty facking solid

[loud zephyr]

nniiice

[steady sandal]

I might do the same thing to the back space

[wispy thistle]

how did i do? first custom was going for that marbly slightly clacky type of sound. I did pe foam + tape mod and gummy mount + case foam and polyfill. I can still hand lube the switches for maybe a slight improvement or what do you guys think it will make a big diff? using pc plate maybe a nice alu plate would help out for a slightly higher pitch marbly type sound.

[steady sandal]

I think it’s spot on for what ur going for. Getting that kinda creamy and clacky vibe

[wispy thistle]

any other mods you recommend trying out?

[empty sinew]

sounds good

what case?

[shy torrent]

Does any stabilizers work with the wooting plate?

Nvm I didn’t see it in faq

Was wondering if these would work

[tawdry tree]

They would.

Not sure why you’d want them though.

[shy torrent]

I got a pcba collecting dust without it the stabilizers and want to sell it complete

[steady sandal]

Lol i just got the wooting and im barely also getting into the keyboard hobby thingy so im not sure tho you can find a bunch of mods you can try on youtube

[elfin garnet]

https://x.com/gateronofficial/status/1768231450728632528?s=46&t=XAv16iTrzXxSOp1Je5IJZQ

GATERON (@GATERONOfficial) on X

Dual-rail Magnetic Orange Switch is coming🚀

Twitter · Mar 14, 2024, 11:03 AM

[tawdry tree]

I just saw it

I’m dead

that shit looks like those intros everyone had in 2010-2015

[wet hazel]

The spring is much wider? Or at least it seems

[tawdry tree]

I don’t think so.

You can use springs from KS-20s in them

[empty sinew]

I have the switches

installed on my 2nd woot build

they are quite obviously heavier to press then l45's

a lot less wobble\rattle though, sound is ok nothing special I would say

stock lube job is overdone

[glacial wind]

i coulda sworn they posted this already

or are they just reposting again since it's closer to the non china release

[median fog]

isn't that orange like ledge used to go against the metal leaf, for tactile, on the wrong side here? the room for the leaf is on the left, not where the orange thingy is

[crimson sky]

not shaped the right way to be tactile

I know of some weird contactless switches that still have leafs for "the feel"

[median fog]

that's still semi-tactile kind of, since only one contact point, we need Tactile HE lekker switches with 2 contact points, full leaf.
one-corner-point kind of applies uneven (also rotating) pressure, two-point is more symmetrical pressure
I also kind of bet that one-point wears out faster, since you need to apply more pressure to emulate some two-point

[devout torrent]

no this is a dula rail switch

wont be tactile

just uses 2 rails for less wobble

[median fog]

what's that orange ledge for tho

[devout torrent]

you can alreayd buy the KS-20U from places like mechkeys etc

and some kbs like the oasis 75 come with it

all switches have that

so you cant put in stem the wrong way

for example on lekker

[median fog]

so what does this leaf really touch tho #🔧│keyboard_modding message

[devout torrent]

in this case nothing man

the KS-20U is a linear

not a tactiel

tactile*

[harsh dove]

https://wooting.io/wooting-80he

30 mins

[devout torrent]

LETS GOOOOOOOOO

[devout torrent]

what colors we all getting

[median fog]

well whatever, not looking for some pseudo-tactile with 1 contact point. need 2-point full HE tactile lekker.

[devout torrent]

I believe kailh makes a tactile HE switch

but not wooting compatible

sorry not kailh, outemu

[crimson sky]

alps was only one contact point

[devout torrent]

and alps fucks

so good

[median fog]

outemu has interesting center 2-point tactile seems like

[devout torrent]

https://kprepublic.com/products/outemu-otm-magnetic-switch-black-red-blue-brown-pink-switch-linear-tactile-no-pins-for-specific-magnetic-mechanical-keyboard?variant=43888157851811

brown and blue ones on this page are HE + tactile

which sounds kinda weird tho ngl

[median fog]

just this pic

[crimson sky]

you mean they copied space invaders

[median fog]

why they do this, this seems very imprecise right

[crimson sky]

that is normal

old cherry spec had +/-15gf

[median fog]

work travel travel doesn't matter much, since it's magnetic, but yeah

[wispy thistle]

Tofu redux

[crimson sky]

they just give massive tolerances so it doesn't matter if a batch is especially shit

[median fog]

at least like Jades seem more precise

Initial Force: 30士7gf
• Total Travel: 3.5±0.2mm

[crimson sky]

they are not more precise

they just got a tighter spec

[median fog]

well you do loser specs because you have less trust in your product tho, to not be subject to refunds etc.

this is jades, what are these numbers for wooting

Initial magnetic flux: 120±15Gs
Bottom-out magnetic flux: 800±80Gs
wooting supposed to have calibration, but at least nothing calibrated when I tested it

[median spade]

It's Gateron is the first issue

[crimson sky]

wooting also uses gateron switches

[crimson sky]

wdym

if anything gateron is still one of the better companies in that regard

[median fog]

yeah but still, maybe something is differnt

[crimson sky]

should be the exact same

even if they give a different spec