🔧│keyboard_modding

[harsh dove]

https://cafege.com.au/products/frog-mini-he-plates

Found it

Most people don’t like the sound they give off

[fierce canyon]

yo please keep us updated this sounds interesting if it's nonferrous and fits

[agile grove]

just looks like the jade spring is a bit more compressed (probably due to the shorter travel distance). it should fit fine.

[fresh quail]

@harsh dove what wrist rest is that

[wet hazel]

Yup it works fine, the full travel also (checked using the rgb pressure effect from wooting)

But also doesn't feel noticeable lighter

[harsh dove]

Which one

[wet hazel]

It's like changing from 52g jade to 45g lekker

[harsh dove]

Well they’re 28g which is probably the initial actuation , end is probably close to the L45s

[wet hazel]

That seems more like it

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[wet hazel]

I tested a lekker spring from the L45 and they feel almost the same

[normal schooner]

you tested a spring?

do I read that correct?

[wet hazel]

Maybe it was misinterpreted, I mean changing other switch spring to the L45

So I have jade, L45 and 28g springs in three different keys

[normal schooner]

wicked man

spring pack comming up next

[wind karma]

i see

are they stiff

tho

i want a not harsh bottom out

altho i dont want very flexy cuz consistency

[idle pier]

Anyone has had problems with enter key being stuck? This keycap set seems to not work with my jades 🫠

With switch facing same direction as LED it works but feels super scratchy

[agile grove]

what stabs?

[harsh dove]

Nah they flex

It’s the same material most PCBs are made of

[idle pier]

stock

[empty sinew]

need to catch one WK version

[empty sinew]

actually found one 🙂

[static tendon]

GMK Mitolet

[harsh dove]

Is this a piece of hair?

[static tendon]

This is done intentionally

[harsh dove]

Lmao

[static tendon]

Oh oops

[static tendon]

I had re-binded keys there. I thought that’s what you were going to mention but yeah that’s hair. Probably from my cat 😂

[harsh dove]

Hahaha I was mainly hoping is wasn’t a scratch or something

[static tendon]

No no, I make sure this thing is far from anything that can damage it or risk getting it scuffed

[harsh dove]

Don’t hate me

But there’s another one

Lmfao

[static tendon]

You know after I sent that I did notice I just moved it to the side 😂😂😂

Third time has to be free of hairs 😤

[harsh dove]

[narrow comet]

Bought this Artisan Keycap on AliExpress, very pleased by the quality for the price (~9$)

[potent wedge]

TX AP stabilizer (Almost perfect) - Can version 4 be used for wooting 60he?

[stray tiger]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[potent wedge]

Stabilizer Plate Mount FL-Esports FL CMMK used for wooting 60he?

[stray tiger]

Not sure what that is. If you have a link that will help. The wooting 60HE does comes with stabs though

[potent wedge]

TKL kits can it be used?

[static tendon]

Do all e-white Tofu’s have this textured finish?

[harsh dove]

https://unikeyboards.com/products/fl-cmmk-plate-mount-stabilizer

These and I already own them

They’re eh

Rather use the stock stabs tbh

Too much tuning required

[potent wedge]

Have you tried the TX AP stabilizer TKL kit?

[harsh dove]

I’ve tried everything known to man

Kidding, but yes I have

I’ve used every version of TX AP stabs except Long Pole

[potent wedge]

Which version can be used for wooting 60he ?

[narrow comet]

I think its only the Redux. i looked closely on a standard tofu 60 e-white (with a photo) it doesnt seem to have that finish

[static tendon]

Interesting, I didn’t know that 🤯

[fluid ravine]

Those works

Those use to be used a lot back then

Tx ap plate mounts are more preferable as of now but those are ok

In general tho you can lube any stabs to make them sound good

[obtuse pivot]

hi guys i have a question does the HOLY60 case from kdbfans works with the wooting60?

[harsh dove]

Do you have the new Wooting60HE+ PCB or the old one?

[stray tiger]

It should

[potent wedge]

I have the old one

[harsh dove]

Then you need to get Plate Mount stabs

The stock stabs are fine if you lube and tune em, but if you want/need new stabs then the TX AP Plate Mount TKL Base Kit will work

[harsh dove]

https://divinikey.com/products/tx-ap-plate-mount-stabilizers

[potent wedge]

Thanks

[potent wedge]

Still will work above the old one (TX AP)

[harsh dove]

Wdym?

[potent wedge]

It's okay if you want to change it

[mild geyser]

anybody using a cf plate from kbd fans? the caps and left shift sound fucking attrocious, is that just me?

[foggy haven]

has anyone else gotten the tofu redux?

[harsh dove]

Yes and yes

[harsh dove]

Yes

https://tenor.com/view/simeb-gif-6183588

[foggy haven]

i ordered it and i was wondering when it ships because i got it march 4th and still no info

like how long did yours take to get tracking info

[harsh dove]

Took 4 days for me to receive it

[foggy haven]

oh alright

after u got that how long did it take?

[harsh dove]

No I mean in total

[foggy haven]

oooooooh ok

[harsh dove]

like from time of ordering to the time it got to me

[foggy haven]

are you na?

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[foggy haven]

same same cause the makers of it are a chinese company

[harsh dove]

and I ordered off Divinikey

so

[foggy haven]

i got mine off of kbdfans which is also reputable

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[mild geyser]

what case and foam are you using?

[harsh dove]

but I think shipping is longer on KDB

if you're NA

[foggy haven]

legit?

[harsh dove]

Rn, Salvation, no foam

[foggy haven]

what keycaps are those?

cause i got the gmk olivias

which are also similar

[mild geyser]

8008

[harsh dove]

Lubed?

[mild geyser]

olive are very different

[foggy haven]

yeah its white with pink accents

i just meant the pink

cause i like ping

pink

[mild geyser]

rest sounds fine, just that side, raptors with lekker stems

spings bag lubed

[harsh dove]

What mounting style?

[mild geyser]

screw in

[harsh dove]

Hmm, how do you have the pcb mounted? Screwed in, gummy mount, burger mount?

[mild geyser]

screw in

[harsh dove]

Any case foam? Could be caused by the screw maybe? Could try loosening it a bit

[mild geyser]

plate and case foam

sounds like that not screwed in at all too

just fucking aweful

[harsh dove]

Really odd tbh

I have a video in a tofu with cf plate hold on

here

[mild geyser]

its the switches

swapped a few better ones around and they sound fine now

i wonder if the spring lube just comes right out the bottom makeing these sound aweful

i need to get some of those jades

[harsh dove]

Ah fair

[empty sinew]

question I got how does the usb port work with the frog mini?

it looks like its on the other side

[harsh dove]

Its not

[empty sinew]

ahh yeah your right was looking one pic

and it was kindof optical confusing me

[harsh dove]

Yeah I think you were just seeing the indent on the otherside for one of the tadpoles

[empty sinew]

well found one on the mechmarket, maybe I'll be able to get it

[harsh dove]

Nice, yeah I wouldn't mind one myself

[empty sinew]

but I am unsure about the plate

prolly hard to find one in europe

[harsh dove]

I'm not sure tbh, I'm sure someone in here might know a place/guy

[empty sinew]

I think the guy listing has 2 plates included

just don't know which

ALU\POM

probably the ones from geon

do you know if those fit wooting?

[harsh dove]

They do not

https://cafege.com.au/products/frog-mini-he-plates?_pos=2&_sid=308f07085&_ss=r

This is an AUS company

dunno how much that'd be for you

[empty sinew]

this is why I was thinking

[harsh dove]

Sold separately I assume?

[empty sinew]

ye

I am checking the site and idk

[harsh dove]

Could try contacting the seller

[empty sinew]

ye I did, he offline will see tomorrow ig

hopefully is not sold yet 🙂

[harsh dove]

Forsure

[median spade]

Only in Korea*

It’s on his Korean store

@empty sinew also what color you going for

[harsh dove]

That makes more sense

I remember you saying this now

[median spade]

I have my silver one collecting dust and it’s Alu/pom plate

[harsh dove]

I wanted to get the Silver one too lol

[median spade]

For wooting 60he*

[hazy citrus]

fully built!

I think i still need to get a red and black cable tho 🤔

[meager pine]

He is travelling right now so he won’t be in for like 3 weeks but he will have two other employees fulfilling his orders

[lime bay]

No, the Ali page says the force is bottom out. I also have these springs and i can feel the difference easily.

[lime bay]

The longer spring results in a higher starting weight and a lighter force increase, this gives a more crisp feeling and stronger rebound. Plus these can push Cerakeys easily without feeling mushy.

[crimson sky]

you need a fitting plate

otherwise it works fine

[harsh dove]

Ah okay, nice

my b

[empty sinew]

Who?

[wary pollen]

The Frog mini plate file is available here, and you can just send it to a shop that commission custom plates

[empty sinew]

Yeah first i need to find the case

Hard task 🙂

[potent wedge]

The Frog mini plate makes thock sound

[potent wedge]

Compare lekker L45 switch and GATERON Magnetic Jade Switch

[lyric linden]

Ive got a question for the people who know better than me 😅 Ive currently got my Wooting in a Mekanisk Klippe T, with the PC (ISO) plate and Magnetic Jade switches. I cant friction fit, because the way they did the ISO plate means one of my corners isnt screwed together. But, I've been thinking of burger mounting it. Would I gain much in the way of sound and feel? I already quite like the sound of my Wooting, but was wondering if it would be worth it?

[empty sinew]

damn the frog mini was sold already :\ missed it

oh well

[potent wedge]

try polypropylene

[potent wedge]

Where can I find a POM plates?

[empty sinew]

The frog mini I wanted was sold month ago rip

[gaunt marten]

just order a custom plate service

[bleak ginkgo]

why does the stock wooting case foam not fit in the 60redux

i already removed 1 layer but the usb port still cant fit

[empty sinew]

Use the tofu foam

[remote jasper]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006094316561.html?pdp_npi=4%40dis!PKR!PKR 6%2C944!PKR 6%2C944!!!24.85!24.85!%40211b61ae17098159091342969e8311!12000035711054400!sh!MY!2644510420!&spm=a2g0o.store_pc_allItems_or_groupList.new_all_items_2007525187909.1005006094316561 anyone tried these? Wanted to get the raptors but they're out of stock in my region

[wide kraken]

from what I understand the first generation ks-20 variants are pretty similar to lekker

[polar girder]

Yeah idk fits in mine

[tawdry tree]

Those are the KS-20 switches. Lekker switches are a recolor of the KS-20 switches so they are perfectly compatible with Wooting’s boards. They come in white and in orange. The orange one will shift the color of your LEDs to orange, if you don’t want that you could consider the white version.

The Lekker switches are identical to the KS-20 switches so don’t buy them expecting a different sound or feel.

[remote jasper]

identical to L60 or L45?

[empty sinew]

you can try the KS20-U switches

I am using them atm, they are the new improved version of the KS20, with dual rails

[tawdry tree]

Springs are different. Lekker L45 switches are identical to KS-20 white switches and Lekker L60 switches are close to KS-20 orange switches (10g lighter).

[remote jasper]

ohh alright, thanks! considering getting the ks-20s then

[empty sinew]

https://mechkeys.com/products/gateron-ks-20u?variant=44792748376287 my recommendation @remote jasper

5g heavier then the lekker45, same travel and actuation supported, has dual rail, far better lube job stock and less wobble rattle on the stem.

[tawdry tree]

Alright, only if you have neither the Lekker L60 switches nor the L45 switches already. :thumbsup:

[empty sinew]

Last time I posted KS20-U sound test in the Alumaze60, now here is a new sound test for those of you who asked about Tofu:

• Tofu60 Redux Acrylic with Brass Weight and Tofu stock foam
• Wooting 60HE+ module with Poron sandwich and stabs greased\lubed.
• KS20-U peaches stock
• Phone bit noisy rip

[minor mist]

my key caps arrived I'm currently making my 1st step finally, my case is also almost done in the 3D side, so i could start printing tomorrow 😄

do you think the switch is a good idea? it's the part i'm mostly on the fence with, i'm not sure how well it will work tbh

but i wanted to get rid of the noise of the key almost completely when the key is released

[weary tree]

i dont understand where the rubber is supposed to go

[rapid sphinx]

hey! I've never modded a keyboard before but I saw videos of people putting their 60he into a metal case, the alumaze60 one? I want to do this, where can I start? What do I need? Anything I can just read and figure it out from there?

I want to order just the case but I read online people also get the PC Switch Plate as well because it supposedly works better with a metal case. But I have the 60he, not the 60he+ which the plate supposedly "officially" supports

[weary tree]

wooting just released a vid on youtube

[rapid sphinx]

oh what's it called I'l have a look

[weary tree]

https://youtu.be/eJgxb9WtYGY?si=iQunfvifK4mnA4tG

[rapid sphinx]

THANK YOU!

[minor mist]

the rubber is not suppose to "go" anywhere 😄 i hope hahaha

I will be remaking this parts in rubber, to be precise TU rubber rigid rubber for sound dampening for 30 keys

and for the switch marked

[weary tree]

oh

like rubber stem

[rapid sphinx]

would you guys recommend this PC switch plate for the 60he? https://wooting.io/product/60he-pc-switch-plate On the website it says its better for a metal case but I don't really know what it does

[weary tree]

its mainly for sound purposes

[rapid sphinx]

oh right, so the stock 60he comes with a plastic plate instead?

[minor mist]

yes like rubber stem slightly softer, but just slightly

[polar girder]

Steel

[weary tree]

steel

you can try i guess but the tolerances on the switch are quite slim

you can get problem like high friction

[rapid sphinx]

OH! so this would be swapping out the steel plate for this new plastic one I see.

But I have the ISO layout, it says it has some issue with standoffs? Is it a big deal?

"The ISO PC plate is officially compatible with the 60HE+ ISO layout. You can also install it with the 60HE ISO layout, however, you can’t screw in all the standoffs"

[minor mist]

yeah i am aware, thats why i'm afraid it will not work, i will use a original piece for the mold, but this is not precise, so it will be kinda hard, but if it doesnt work i will try to CNC rubber cutting machine this, but this means i will have to do it in two different parts, and i like even less that idea lol

[weary tree]

no idea honnestly

[valid rover]

guys whats the best way to silence the 60he? i want to make it as quiet as posible without too intrusive modding methods, any help :)

[minor mist]

o rings

[valid rover]

whats size you recommend

[minor mist]

im using 1.5mm

[valid rover]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/374115713719 are these good?

[minor mist]

lubing asnd foam would help aswell, you would have to spend like 2 hours or something around it but it would help a lot

[valid rover]

ya if it wont be quiet enough with o rings ill try to go into more depth

[weary tree]

switch tape mod can reduce upstroke sound

but it takes time

[valid rover]

ok ill look into it

thx

[weary tree]

#1173784544529363034 message

nothing online about it

[minor mist]

why am i choosing the hard path of rubber instead of the easy way out tape mod xD if the rubber switch doesnt work i might try that on the jades.

[valid rover]

still havent got my keyboard tho 😓

like 3 weeks still

[minor mist]

tbh just changing my keycaps decreased the sound like crazy for me

[weary tree]

you can also put polyfill as case foam

but you need to do the tempest mod

like taping the pcb

i have ceramic keycaps they sound hella nice

[minor mist]

yeah i have seen that

i have XVX V2 Low Profile atm while i dont finish the rubber ones

[shrewd dragon]

your arrow keys make me mad

[minor mist]

hahaha i dont use the up and down arrow key so i kept it like that to trigger ocd people 😄

[median spade]

You also like carpal tunnel and arthritis

[valid flint]

Please for the love of god tell me that the lube has that color

[empty sinew]

please don't use that amount of lube 😄

[valid flint]

Just wanted to make sure that its actually lube..

[weary tree]

it is

its from a video

https://youtu.be/EAW_vD0BzgM?si=kp3v2Uz8ZWbtEn3B

[shrewd dragon]

a little more lube, gummy O rings , PCB O ring, Or tape mod are the more simple ones

[undone meadow]

no way you paid 300 for a mouse that isnt even that good for the price

[minor mist]

i didnt hahaha i paid 60 bucks for a broken one ( the left click was completely woobly almost coming out) i fixed it, i use it for day to day use, i use the UltralightX for gaming, but i collect gaming mouses i like to mod them so i have almost all of them, most in second hand, starlights, logitechs, razers, beastX, currently i have 8 mouses on my collection

[minor mist]

its also a mouse i can easly flip for 300 bucks right now if i wanted to lol, insane.

I did something similar with a starlight pegasus, i bought one with a broken bottom, printed a new custom bottom with a different design sold for 300 euros more at the time

[minor mist]

low-profile with reduced height and shallower keys, will contribute to a more comfortable experience, especially for those who prefer not to use a wrist rest. By minimizing the keyboard's height and inclination, the strain on your wrists and arms can be lessened because a flatter angle may reduce the need for your wrists to bend upwards, thereby aligning more naturally with your arms and reducing potential discomfort during prolonged sessions.

using the wrist up would be better but i spend 10 hours on my PC so having it up all the time would be impossible.

[median spade]

You should look up proper ergonomics and you would see this is wrong tbh

You want to float wrists, and have angle to your keyboard

There is a reason cherry knows what they're doing with keycaps and how they designed MX

[harsh dove]

Have to agree here

[median spade]

My last job we had a whole team around ergonomics (how they held a job was bit interesting to me but I digress) and I talked with them extensively so my setup is how it is now becuase of them

[harsh dove]

Keep the tilt in mind as they say

[undone meadow]

ohhh that makes sens lots of people wouldnt even think its fixable so they just sell it

[undone meadow]

ye you could flip it for 300

@minor mist try to light one of your magnesium alloy mice on fire

trust me ☺

[minor mist]

ahm i like how you think hahahah

[valid flint]

Wait

Can someone explain to me why that mouse is so expensive

Is that the brand that made the ultralight or what

[minor mist]

special edition made of magnesium

[valid flint]

I should eat it

[minor mist]

xD

[valid flint]

Curious about those niche mice

[minor mist]

i guess it's like keyboards some people like other stuff

[valid flint]

Are there replacement parts that you can order? The issue why I usually get a new mouse every 3-4 years is due to the switches not working anymore or registering multiple clicks etc

[harsh dove]

Main issue I see with this is it’s completely flat, unless you plan to angle it with feet or something

[valid flint]

Because I don't see a valid reason to pay 300 bucks for one

[minor mist]

no, well someparts you can change with other not brand parts, other you can use from the normal mouse edition ( you would buy a broken standard edition mouse and use his parts)

[minor mist]

its super light, people pay for being super light and hz

[slow iris]

Is the connector on the wooting coiled cable the same size as the stock one? Not sure if it will fit on my 5degree case

[harsh dove]

It’s the same type of connector but the coiled cable has a bigger one technically

[grim steppe]

As I know FR4 kdbfans plate doesn’t work well with tx ap clip-ins
Is it ok to sand it like PC plate?

[slow iris]

Hm, not sure if it will fit then

Btw is the stock cable also 1.5m?

[harsh dove]

I believe so

Here’s the coiled cable connector

It’s tapered on the end

So it might fit

[untold wigeon]

can i do PE foam mod on the module?

doesnt work right?

[slow iris]

Do you have a stock cable to compare?

The stock is a tight fit xd

[median spade]

it will work, but it really doesn't do anything

[untold wigeon]

😦

[undone meadow]

xs

xd

[median spade]

Like I was telling you and others. THat sound you love on the mx side and such don't bother chasing it for HE rn

You just gotta do what I did and find what you can tolerate/don't care enough to do more

HE vastly is worse in sound to MX right now and just how it is

[harsh dove]

Not with me, as I’m at work currently

[harsh dove]

Yeah if you’re chasing a good sound without trying to break the bank.
My recommendation would be:
Tofu Redux w/ Brass Weight
Polyfill
Any plate of your choice, preferably POM, PC, or if you’re a bit more daring then Alu, CF, or FR4.
Gateron Magnetic Jades
No PCB foam/silicone
No Switch Films or Pads
Just lube switches and tune stabs
That is all

[wind karma]

why no PCB foam?

[harsh dove]

I don’t like foamy sounding boards

[wind karma]

oh

[untold wigeon]

gotcha

[median spade]

Personally I think you should do pcb foam, foam inside switches, foam on the plate, foam on top of switches, foam in the keycaps, foam in the bottom of the case, and foam in stabilizers

[harsh dove]

Lmao

I smell cap 🧢

[wind karma]

foam in the table

foam AS the table

[median spade]

[wind karma]

foam USB cable

[minor mist]

@harsh dove @median spade I don't plan on keeping it flat all the time; when I'm typing or playing, it will be slightly tilted, barely though, since I have a low grip. But for the rest of the day, when I type intermittently i usually do lazy typing, as most people do, example in in my first photo, for that I want it as flat as possible. And yes, this is because of carpal tunnel.

These are the recommendations from my doctor (a carpal tunnel specialist). She showed me exactly how I should position my hands and what kind of inclination would be best for the keyboard. ( i just took some pictures and grabbed some images of the internet showing what she explained)

The flatter your keyboard, the less angle your wrist makes when it's resting and even when it isn't. Most people are guilty of wrist resting. No one can stay 9 hours or more with their arms up in place; that's just unrealistic.

You could argue that using a wrist rest would do the trick. Well, yes and no. It could help, but some people don't like them. I don't, for example, especially when gaming. For some, they become sweaty, among other issues and ideally they should be as long as your arm, and that's simply not practical.

To keep the arms straight i use something like you see in the last image, wrist restraining that keeps my arms straight and my pulse closed, i don't use it all day, specially when gaming, since its not practical, but i use it at least for 5 hours a day.

Regarding this topic i have done my research i'm not a doctor but i have consulted professionals and was operated to my hands twice already, since in my previews job i completely damaged my hands ( in construction).

Of course all this advice from the doctor was applied to me not everyone, but i guess most of this applies to everyone.

[wind karma]

i think i may go KS-20U's over jades

but that will be down to whether i like the L45's or not

[median spade]

The solution is to have a proper chair with elbow/arm rests

I type 8 hours a day for sysadmin work and float the whole time

Using a flat keyboard is working around the problem and not fixing it

[polar girder]

Instructions unclear. Foam in ass.

Yo I got my syringes today

[median spade]

You're doctor is telling you what works best for your setup sure, but If you had a proper chair, desk height, etc with elbows lightly touching the shair arms it solves this

[polar girder]

But how the fuck I get the bar out of the stab????

[harsh dove]

I can agree to this, my main point was that if it’s too flat, they your wrist could arch upward as shown, so you need at least some angle to the board itself

[polar girder]

I can’t just go 90* up like some YouTube vid said

[wind karma]

(insane)

[median spade]

The literal image you shows validates what I'm saying too

[polar girder]

For the module screw in

First time stab modder here

[harsh dove]

And yeah just like Tenturo said, it’s also desk height, chair height, arm rest height, and even monitor height and tilt

[harsh dove]

Lmao I did that too

[minor mist]

i just posted those images lol

😄

[harsh dove]

But yeah bottom right is my point about it being too flat

If it was flat your wrist would arch

[minor mist]

not if you dont claw grip most of the day

like i said

[polar girder]

Send help

[median spade]

I had budding arthritis and when I did all that Is aid of proper chair height, desk height, etc it went away in basically 2 days

[minor mist]

and arm rest is the wrost thing you could use theres entire research's regarding the damage arm rests are making to the muscles of your wrist arms and back

[median spade]

been doing it ever since

flat keyboards are worse for you just facts

when I say arm rests my elbows are lightly touching

Enough for if I need a small break I can maintain proper wrists and hands floating

[harsh dove]

Grab one stab housing and hold the other, lift one side up so that the wire is almost straight up and down if that makes sense and then pull out

[median spade]

It's just like working out the more you do it the more it's possible to maintain floating wrists majority of your day

[harsh dove]

Yeah wrist rest are bad as well

I used to use arm rest a lot but now I rest the meaty part of my forearms on my desk

[minor mist]

thats actually an improvement i want to do in my desk, because i do exactly that and it makes me arch slightly my arms ( instead of the correct way having them straight) so paid to cut my table like that to help. I will need to see if it actually helps.

[harsh dove]

Hahah that’s exactly what I have

Curved inward

[minor mist]

does it help?»

[harsh dove]

I think so personally

Vs just the flat edge

[minor mist]

https://tenor.com/view/hysterical-laughter-laughing-gif-25735842

maybe its my belly its getting bigger, i should do more exercise

[harsh dove]

Hahaha yeah I’m a thin guy so

[minor mist]

so am i, but my belly is showing up lately, getting old.

😄

[harsh dove]

Ah okay fair enough lol

[static tendon]

Oh that being said, the 7.5° angle hasn’t bothered me in the slightest. Cherry profile sits a lot lower than my previous OEM profile. I also don’t use a wrist rest

Years back I did use a wrist rest. I stopped using it and never went back

[polar girder]

They’re like held in place and don’t really lift up tho

Unless I’m just not understanding correctly

[agile grove]

you have to take the stab off the pcb first

[harsh dove]

I thought you already had them removed tbf

[polar girder]

Well they’re off the PCB

Sorry that’s just a Wooting pic

[harsh dove]

Oh okay

[polar girder]

Cuz I’m at work lol

[harsh dove]

Well if they’re already off the PCB then you should be able to do what I said still and just kinda lift the wire up and out of the housing

[remote cairn]

hey, I'm going to pollyfill my keyboard and I'm wondering how much of it should I use? Is that a good amount or do I need to use more, and what are the benefits of putting less/more?

[median spade]

youll want to play around with it to your preference

is all really

[harsh dove]

Yeah, I try not to do too much as it pushes the board out of the case

And reveals the plate and switches which I don’t like

Like a low profile board

So I do just enough to remove any case ping/resonance really

And try to keep my keycaps flush with the case

Like this

[median spade]

[empty sinew]

thats the salvation right?

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[empty sinew]

do you like it?

I've heard very mixe reviews

[agile grove]

really? I've only heard good things about it.

[empty sinew]

yes on other mech discords people are not rlly liking it a lot

well

I think its kindof love or hate case

i would love to try one though

[harsh dove]

I mean you either like it or don’t care for it

As with anything

[empty sinew]

I kindof like it hehe

I want one to compare it to alumaze

I think for the money alumaze sounds pretty good

[harsh dove]

Yeah Alumaze isn’t bad

[empty sinew]

yeah I was rlly surprised by its sound lately

[stray tiger]

For all the blacked out lover, this set looks legit https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=122582.0

Loving the samples

[empty sinew]

lovely

[stray tiger]

The sparkles in the alpgas is sweet too

[harsh dove]

When it shines will it still sparkle or will my fingers be sparkly lol

[stray tiger]

Like mini disco balls lol

[harsh dove]

Hahaha

[stray tiger]

I'll for sure get this set if it goes until group buy

[harsh dove]

Yeah same

I like it

I know I shouldn’t but I’m tempted to get a frog mini

[stray tiger]

I like mine, just not for the 60HE but I was a really early adopter. Might be better now with some of the new plate choices.

[harsh dove]

Yeah Tenturo shared the same sentiment

That cosmos set seems like it might be my 80HE set

[median spade]

I think about getting a sonnet many days

but my favorite 75% layout is 7v

should have hever sold mine

[harsh dove]

Yeah the mode sonnet is nice

[median spade]

Board is nice but that 75% layout is just the worst one imo

well outside compact 75% but we don't count that

[harsh dove]

Yeah I’m referring to that lol

The board itself

F the layout

[median spade]

but alas layouts are subjective and preference haha

[empty sinew]

Rainy evening who wants to help me

[stray tiger]

I wanted a Mode Tempo but I dont own a single hhkb layout. If there was a winkey option Id have ordered it, but mocing forward I'll only be buying HE boards most likely

[untold wigeon]

get white cable

[polar girder]

lol

[empty sinew]

just tried a bit of white caps 😄

[polar girder]

Looks great

I want to finally get my module swapped in tonight

[outer cobalt]

Hey there I'm looking for a neat wrist rest for my modded 60 he

[polar girder]

Switches are good to go just have to tune stabs

Get the Wooting one

If you’re ok with the silicone

Fits redux perfect

[outer cobalt]

my palms get sweaty not so sure about silicone I'd like something like my case

It's an old tofu60

[polar girder]

Aluminum wrist rest?

[outer cobalt]

Yeah

That would be nice

[untold wigeon]

kb looks better with the white keycaps

[grizzled path]

just smother the wrist rest with butter first

[harsh dove]

Marble wrist rest

[outer cobalt]

haha

[median spade]

Yeee, I'm in same boat where I just want like a 75% again to round out my mx collection but only like certain styles of 75%. Probs going to pick up a zoom75

[fluid ravine]

Enough to the point where you wouldn't need force to compress it

[gray shoal]

There are no aluminum cases compatible with the 80he correct?

[stray tiger]

Not yet

[gray shoal]

Gotcha thanks

[wide kraken]

anyone have a sound comparison between PC plate and FR4 plate? only found BadSeedTech's video so far but he also changes the case with the plates

[celest wedge]

PC is more thocky and fr4 is more clacky

[wide kraken]

i feel like that's the conventional wisdom, but there's a weird kind of ringing or resonance in the pc plate and i'm wondering if that goes away with FR4

like you know that sound when you flick a thin piece of plastic and it vibrates?

then again it might not pick up in a recording anyways...

[celest wedge]

I'm not sure I haven't had that issue with PC plates before

[wide kraken]

actually it seems to go away switching from poron plate foam to silicone pad

maybe the poron doesn't support the plate enough and allows it to vibrate a bit

[gloomy umbra]

Sheeesh

So nice

And the wrist rest is incredible

[minor mist]

question,

are this suppose to be flat or the should have screwing design? and i mean all the inserts basically not just the ones marked

(i didnt open mine yet as i didnt need to yet)

[wide kraken]

not quite sure what you mean, but are you asking if they are threaded?

[minor mist]

correct

[wide kraken]

unthreaded plastic, the screws self-tap

[minor mist]

if they should have the inserts, female

so that would mean the case i currently have when opened several times those might start getting loose, correct me if i'm, wrong

[wide kraken]

for designing custom case yeah i'd recommend designing them for threaded inserts
i've opened mine about 5-6 times so far and it's starting to feel a bit loose (and I do take care to re-seat into existing threads)

[minor mist]

yeah my toughts.

i will be adding the threaded inserts female, i just wanted to make sure what the design was here. thank you very helpfull

since they are going to be aluminium, i will have to open mine to assure myself of the correct size for the screws.

would you know that information on the screw sizes?

everything will be coated with rubber tho, but i think they would last only one single opening before the tread would be damaged.

[potent wedge]

I was wondering if I got the new switches(L45), should I lube over the new factory lube?

[wide kraken]

i don't have that info, sorry. i think there are just two sizes though (plate -> case and pcb -> case)

[wide kraken]

at least personally i've felt like all the HE switches i've tried noticably benefit from hand lubing

[formal comet]

I think they're asking should they remove the factory lube before applying their own

which, I don't

[stray tiger]

No need, just lube over it

[willow tendon]

Is it worth it to buy magnetic jades?

[potent wedge]

Question since the Jades are already kinda tight, it’s recommended to only do 1 layer if you do

Right???

[fluid ravine]

yeah

idk what you're talking abt but ye 😂

[potent wedge]

[potent wedge]

If using Jade magnetic switch, only tape mode 1 layer

[fluid ravine]

Personal preference

[harsh dove]

Jades will probably only work with 1 layer tbh

Anything more will likely be too thick

The jades are nowhere near as loose as Lekker stems

Lekkers can take 3 layers

[fluid ravine]

I think hes talking abt tempest

maybe

i wass lost as well

[harsh dove]

I figured he was referring to switch tape mod

[fluid ravine]

Yeah same here

[lost badge]

hey guys im lubing the switches, is it ok to put them together like this?

[harsh dove]

Yeah

Just the magnets loving each other

Before they get separated again

[wide kraken]

at least imo i prefer doing one by one so it doesn't smear everywhere but

[lost badge]

haha aight

[polar girder]

As magnets do

[wide kraken]

also these lubed KS-20Us are everything I was looking for on the 60HE, just as nice feeling as the jades but not as loud, deeper sounding

[harsh dove]

You've ascended

[quiet bay]

just gotta get cerakeys and I'm done my wooting build....

white crazed not released yet tho

[median spade]

thats what they all say

[harsh dove]

Pochizo will never be done

[quiet bay]

foreshadowing? 👀

we'll find out if i'm ever satisfied

[pallid grove]

Hello for anyone who is using the jade magnetic switches have you had issues with the space stabs? Heard it’s hit or miss if there’s an issue. What stabs would you recommend to get?

[tawdry tree]

If you plan on using stock keycaps there’s no issue at all with stock stabilizers in combination with Jade switches.

Many 3rd party keycaps will be fine too but not all.

If they’re too lose and you press hard then they can pop out.

[quiet bay]

damn I think the cable for my UwUting just bricked

doesn't work on either my uwu or 60he

no loose cables

tried both usb inputs on my monitor

ok nope tried the usb on my computer and it worked

weird

ok restarted computer and now it works 👍

[empty galleon]

can you put the little o spaces on the standoffs after fitting the case foam or does it have to be before

[wide kraken]

order doesn't really matter there

[tawdry tree]

After is probably easier.

[empty galleon]

sweet thanks

[tawdry tree]

👍

[empty galleon]

still waiting on my switches

it looks white in the photo but it’s the baby blue tofu60

[harsh dove]

Black PC plate would probs make it show more

Looks good either way

[polar girder]

Truu

Great start tho

[quiet bay]

I never would've guessed that it was baby blue

[lost badge]

i've done lubing the bottom, stem and spring, can I just leave them there and assemble the top housing tmr?

[polar girder]

Yeah that’s chill

[fleet summit]

What does EVA foam on a pcb do? Makes the board Thocky or Clacky?

[stray tiger]

Yep

[polar girder]

Like I’m bending the stab if I do this

I’m scared for the stab lol

Nvm

Finally got it lol

[harsh dove]

Oh ok lol

Was gonna send a video

[potent wedge]

Is it okay if I use gmk sumi keycaps

[gaunt marten]

U can use any keycaps that fits 60% layout, its just tolerance issue

At worst u use some tape or o rings on the stab

[polar girder]

Almost done 🥵😅

[polar girder]

Thanks

[potent wedge]

together with jade magnetic is still good ?

[gaunt marten]

Like I said, its a tolerance issue

Not guaranteed

But 90% of the time you're fine

At worse u buy silicone o rings, use tape or something

https://divinikey.com/products/geon-stem-spacer

Something like this

[kind helm]

i think you have to press the side of the space bar very hard to cause that issue to occur

i am using jade and with stock stab and i honestly don't see how that can be an issue

[tawdry tree]

GMKs are perfectly fine.

[onyx tundra]

are the orange linear switches a must when purchasing the tofu60 redux case?

[true patrol]

definitely not a must

[polar girder]

This syringe I got sucks

Unfortunate lol

Not good for micro management of grease in to stab. Need something tiny and measurable

[onyx tundra]

not worth the price? whats your reasoning to if i should get them or not

[agile grove]

exactly the same as lekkers (except the springs) and a higher price than lekkers with a module

[true patrol]

^ this. if you have a below average batch of lekkers like I had then the ks-20 might be "an improvement", but honestly I'd rather get jades or raptors if I was going to get any separate switches, not a (maybe) slightly better version of the same switch

[untold wigeon]

ks-20u are nice

[pastel ridge]

https://streamable.com/mjph59

salvation soundtest

[true patrol]

what was this recorded on and why is it insanely loud

[pastel ridge]

iphone

idk why its loud

[true patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yurzs7QjBII
I recorded this on an iphone today and it isn't nearly that loud, I dunno what happened lol

[pastel ridge]

ima lower the db and resend

[true patrol]

not too much of an issue, just had to listen to it at like 10% lol

it does sound good though

[empty sinew]

the bottom seems to hit quite some

[pastel ridge]

wdym

[empty sinew]

probably its the plate?

what are you using for it

[pastel ridge]

kbd carbon fiber

irl it isnt that loud

the bottom out or whatever

[empty sinew]

ye has a diff sound the cf

to the pc

[pastel ridge]

i used the pc

but i didnt like it too much

it sounded a little dead

[empty sinew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5Fw8Qrit4E i like his salvation sound

[pastel ridge]

yeah i liked that too

but i like the popper sound i have now

clacky

idk

[empty sinew]

its not bad yeah, I guess I just prefer more thocky hehe

[pastel ridge]

https://youtu.be/Z3KX_le6_vQ?si=gqngeZBxTK5KhbKI

this vid his salvation sounds very diff

[empty sinew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1208142154040352778/1214611945437790270/IMG_5386.mov?ex=65f9be86&is=65e74986&hm=c577352eb30e8668b56f9eeafdb9f831b9f66612f6654bf60519876dcf6ba7f3&

this is my STOCK alumaze lol

well with stabs\switches done

and some foam

was really surprize how good it sounded

alumaze underrated tbh

[pastel ridge]

i used the tofu redux before salvation

but it sounds like

too flat

[empty sinew]

i also got the tofu redux

[pastel ridge]

i cant describe

[empty sinew]

I am thinking on getting the salvation but I am not that convinced

[pastel ridge]

i had got mine from ashkeebs

i built the original pcb with gateron oil kings

and put it in the tofu

it sounds really good in the salviton tho

[empty sinew]

I would rather get a frog mini tbh, but I been through several sellers around and can't seem to find the WK version avail

[pastel ridge]

oh yeah the frog plate is avaliable

[empty sinew]

yep, the case isn't though 😄

[pastel ridge]

that one sound test from that dude with the raptors were good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsz3e3QI4wE

this

[empty sinew]

he is tripping me ocd with his bad typing

😄

can't watch

[pastel ridge]

he was like the first raptor sound test

[gaunt marten]

HAHA

[polar girder]

Still need to finesse it a bit. But happy with it so far

[loud zephyr]

Just go with the aussie store which includes the plate and standoffs but silver is the only option for now. If you're fromn the US then your dollar should be strong against our free falling pesos

[polar girder]

Raptor with l45 stem/spring, redux brass weight, module with stock screw ins, lubed and greased lightly, 1 layer of gentle paper tape on top PCB and 1 layer of moleskin on bottom PCB, poly fill and friction mount (with medium size ring) and nuphy space bar.

[remote cairn]

What are your mods?

[polar girder]

Right here

And it’s module so it has PC plate but I did get the black one

[remote cairn]

Ohh mb

Thx

[light agate]

does anyone know if it's worth it to hand lube the jade magnetic switches? i've heard that the factory lube feels pretty close to hand lubing.. but i'm mostly wondering if the hand lubed version would give a lower pitch to them.. hoping that makes sense

[meager pine]

Definitely worth lubing it

[glacial wind]

osume restocking a bunch of their limited run deskmats on march 14th btw if anyone looking for clean/comfy deskmats. Honestly not usually a graphic deskmat person myself but their designs are really nice for matching themes

[light agate]

alright, thank you !!

one more question about the jade switches, would it be okay to lube over the factory lube or would i have to remove it before lubing them myself?

[untold wigeon]

looks really nice, do they have any black and white themed pad?

[glacial wind]

https://osume.com/collections/deskmats if you want to see the full range

[untold wigeon]

oh wow

really cheap

[meager pine]

Yeah it’s fine lubing over it and be sure to not forget lubing the top housing of the switch as it helps reduce the chatter when topping out 🙂

[empty sinew]

how is the E-Coat on the salvations?

I am looking at the white one

[untold wigeon]

its best

i have it

[tawdry tree]

Lubing over the factory lube is fine as long as you use the same or very similar lube. Krytox 205 works well.

[vague socket]

Hi is it ok to not use the plate standoffs? Will it affect the performance of the hall effect switches

[tawdry tree]

Plate standoffs? You’re using the Tofu Redux? If so, you can’t not use the standoffs between the plate and PCB as the keyboard relies on a constant distance between the two.

I’m also not sure how you would have the plate attached without the standoffs? So maybe I’m understanding you wrong.

[vague socket]

Yes i am using the tofu.

[vague socket]

So it doesn’t work if i just rely on the switches to hold the plate and pcb together?

[tawdry tree]

No, that only works with soldered switches.

Make sure to use all standoffs for a good experience. 😉

[vague socket]

Ahh icic

So it does affect the performance?

[slow iris]

Can someone take a picture of both the stock cable and the wooting coiled cable connectors that go in to the keyboard next to each other? Not sure if the coiled cable will fit my kbd fans 5degree case...

[tawdry tree]

Yes. The distance between the switch and HE sensor won’t be constant if the switch plate is not firmly attached.

[vague socket]

Noted

[tawdry tree]

👍

[tawdry tree]

Maybe check Wooting’s store? There are pictures there and maybe the dimensions too.

[light agate]

thank you !!

[light agate]

thank god i bought more krytox

[slow iris]

Cant find any info about the connector dimensions

[empty sinew]

?:D

[kind yew]

Has anyone tried making wooting wireless, or would anyone like to try it?

It's impossible?

[untold wigeon]

doesnt work

yes

[kind yew]

T^T

[half bloom]

Do i screw these into these holes?

And what about these holes?

I have only 3 screws

[crimson sky]

these two

• 1 extra

though they are very much optional

iirc wooting recommends using the lower one next to the spacebar, but even that one is very much optional

[half bloom]

Will use the two then, and leave one of the screws unused

Seems to be the right way?

[crimson sky]

I'd definetley leave out the middle one

[half bloom]

Wait, should i do only 1 then? o.o

[light agate]

turns out i have one more question...... is it more beneficial to bag lube the jade springs with krytox 105g0, lube the top and bottom with 205g0, or just leave them alone all together

[half bloom]

Or like this?

[crimson sky]

yea i'd do 1 or none of them

[crimson sky]

not the outer ones

[half bloom]

Ah, okay

[crimson sky]

the outer 4 already have the right height and don't need standoffs

[half bloom]

Ahhhh

Why should i keep the middle one out?

Does it change the feel/sound?

[crimson sky]

removing the middle two were a popular mod since it makes the board a bit softer and more even

otherwise you have an odd hardpoint in the middle of your alphas

[half bloom]

Okay, it's better to leave that one out then, for sure xd

Which screws do i use to screw the PCB onto the case?

There are 7 white ones and 6 + 6 normal ones

With 6 holes

[vague socket]

Hii for people that have used the kbdfans wooting plates, do u install the standoffs?

[crimson sky]

the white ones

[half bloom]

Oh, okay!

[crimson sky]

have not used a kbdfans plate, but if you want your switches to actually be secured in any way I would recommend using them

[vague socket]

But i will lose out on the flex :<

[crimson sky]

the other option is the glue the switches to the PCB

[vague socket]

Oh gawd

[obsidian dagger]

just use cardboard

Lots of flex

[half bloom]

This side up, right?

This is very important

[obsidian dagger]

north facing yes

there should be a little paper piece with that Info included

[crimson sky]

doesn't really make a difference other than RGB

if you have an ISO model just make sure not to poke the LED out for the enter key

[untold wigeon]

you dont say.. i learned they hard way😁

[arctic matrix]

Geon raptor he or gateron jades which one is better for wooting ?

[weary tree]

Yes

[glossy pagoda]

Raptor switches saturate the sensors due to the magnet being too strong.

[empty sinew]

but you can frankenstein them

with stem swap

[tawdry tree]

Both are very different switches. The Jades have less stem wobble than the stock Raptors but as lolhero said, you can use the KS-20/Lekker stem in the Raptor switches to drastically reduce stem wobble.

[weary tree]

frankenstein raptors can result in some unwanted friction tho

[hazy citrus]

my stock raptors have been pretty good so far

[median fog]

@spiral canyon any idea what leafs would be compatible with like Gateron Nebula HE switch (for Tactile feel, not clicky)? or are they pretty similar to Lekker. like if I modded Keychron Q1 HE with those switches.

[spiral canyon]

If Nebulas have such small slot on the side, just like Lekkers, then KS-22s Blue leaf fits in there (the one on the photo)

[median fog]

basically if it's off-center there right, doesn't look like it's off-center, so I guess it doesn't have it

does Keychron Q1 HE support lekker tho? not seeing any answers on this anywhere
(well the lights are placed in different spots, but maybe works turning the switch)

[agile grove]

no I dont think the keychron supports lekkers

[median fog]

but not known for sure I guess

[agile grove]

I could be wrong, but wooting boards dont support nebula switches so one could assume it wont be compatible

[median fog]

Nah I guess you're right, found

Cannot use lekker, raptors, or jade’s. The Q1 HE uses Gateron’s KS-37 series of switch which is not compatible with the KS-20 format

no one makes HE Tactile switches, what a mess, just do it already

[tawdry tree]

Outemu, I have them but they aren’t compatible sadly.

[median spade]

Not compatible yet

[tawdry tree]

Reversed polarity support when @woot

[agile grove]

actually they probably would be compatible with the Q1 HE, pretty sure KS-37 use the opposite polarity aswell

[tawdry tree]

Outemus should be compatible with the Q1 yeah

Not with Woot though, not yet

[median fog]

I mean reverse polarity or something shouldn't be an issue I think, they just need to let us re-calibrate switches, they are already calibrated to begin with I think individually

[tawdry tree]

It needs firmware support, hardware allows it I think Simon said.

[polar girder]

Yeah I might want to get the peaches

With l45 spring

[stray tiger]

Getting amped for the 80HE release now too.

[median spade]

Said I wasn’t going to get it, but at this rate I will

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-wrecker-like-there-was-any-doubt-without-a-doubt-no-doubt-gif-25320639

[median spade]

I've just always used 60% for gaming and don't like bigger layouts really so it's still tentative haha

[stray tiger]

In case you guys missed it on the stream today, jades will be available soon on the wooting site to order and firmware updates are coming soon to select your switch

Also, the new Lekker 2.0 switches will be available in the next few months, more details coming in the near future.

[static tendon]

Same usually not a fan of larger layouts, but can appreciate them

[static tendon]

Oooo. Were these Lekkar 2.0s discussed during this recent stream? I would certainly be interested

[stray tiger]

Just discussed that they are coming soon. Can't say more at this time.

[static tendon]

Understood

[wind karma]

amazing!

so if i do purchase the module along with jades would it come cheaper

[stray tiger]

Founders edition pre-orders are b1g1 free on the Lekker switches but the Jades aren't included as part of that deal.

[wind karma]

ah i see

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-cat-dance-cat-cat-meme-chinese-cat-gif-12629347036627000898

[tawdry tree]

Ah ha! So there must be a down side to the current implementation of dynamically changing the total travel distance per switch. Very happy to see switch selection coming soon™️!

[polar girder]

Yeah I’m going to hold off for next switch until lekker 2 drops

Hope it’s good lol

[stray otter]

I really just want to see what cases end up being made.

As of now I'm thinking about getting the module+zinc 80 then adding my own switches and caps.

[median spade]

Well they’ll probably only be from wooting if they are

I doubt designers on the customs side are going to make cases for it except for line a one off

[stray otter]

Oh I'm sure someone like KBD will make one.

[median spade]

They’re starting their own HE stuff

So I wouldn’t plan on it

[stray otter]

So you think that not a single 3rd party case will ever be created? In a hobby full of group buys and crowd funding I find that very hard to believe.

[median spade]

Yeah, the interest isn’t there as much because HE doesn’t sound or feel good for designers

They sound much worse then MX counterparts as it stands

Or it will just be what we see now and companies like Wuque studio make their own for the Zoom75

[stray otter]

Folks in this hobby are waaaaaaaaay too obsessed with sound over function and performance.

[median spade]

Sound is one of the reasons the hobby exists

[stray otter]

For me sound is the least priority

[polar girder]

Speak for yourself

Yeah lol

[median spade]

No point in designing and making a nice board for it to sound like your average Corsair from big box store

[stray otter]

There's a wiiiiiiiiiide gap between the keyboard uber elite and the performance gaming dudes.

[median spade]

Then there is those who are both like me

[stray otter]

Well yeah, it's performance and function.

[median spade]

But I’m just giving you the reality of people aren’t going to design nice cases for a one off layout like the 80he

[stray otter]

Except that there isn't a standard 75%/TKL standard yet so there's a chance it's created.

[median spade]

KBDfans did for tofu as they added a metal slider was all and it benefitted them

Since standard tray mount

But they’re already working on their own HE line like I said so that will come before they do a 80he dedicated case

[stray otter]

I'd argue that the entire reason that the Redux happened was Wooting folks looking for a new metal case option.

[median spade]

Geon making his Venom HE pcb that will fit in a variety of custom TKL btw

[stray otter]

And I say that as a Blade owner who paid a premium because it's no longer made

[median spade]

Yeah that’s what I said above for the redux

Wei added a slider for the usb port and that was it

[stray otter]

I don't trust the other OEMs software. Although I was slightly tempted by the EGG 65% that dropped

[median spade]

But 80he is using its own mounting system and plate so it would be if the designer or KBDfans wants to design around that

But they’re going the route it appears of their own pcbs which are more standardized

[stray otter]

I'm not even saying it WILL happen, I'm saying it's not that far fetched.

[median spade]

Of course there is always a chance but as someone who been in the hobby for almost 6 years now

The odds are very slim

There will be the off user who does their own thing like how we have plates for frog mini and the 60he

But that’s been the disappointment around the 80he a bit as it’s wooting‘s own layout

Not that 75% is standardized so that would have changed nothing too lmao

[fluid ravine]

Woa!!!!

Hit me up on the next stream when they're talking about it

[stray otter]

Exactly that's why I thought some of the hand wringing here was strange

[quiet bay]

damn I can rarely tune in on the stream since it starts on a school day in the morning 😔

[fluid ravine]

fr

[obsidian dagger]

school 👴

[grizzled path]

bad timezone

[remote cairn]

Hey, could someone advise me a good desoldering tool like this one for e.g. and one that is priced at like 40/50€ max please, thx

[stray tiger]

Most good desoldering vacs are going to run you $100+. The cheap ones will gum up and need constant cleaning

[median spade]

^

$100 is where they start to be decent

SS02 solder sucker will be your best bet otherwise

[remote cairn]

@median spade @stray tiger thx guys

[remote cairn]

Is the SS02 any good?

[median spade]

This the ss02 btw

[stray tiger]

If youre only planning to desolder 1-2 boards just get a cheap solder sucker like Tenturo said. If you plan to do a lot of boards, invest in something good

[median spade]

^

[remote cairn]

I plan on doing 1 board

thx

[median spade]

Oh yeah get what I linked then

[stray tiger]

Oh then get a sucker and call it a day

[remote cairn]

Okay thx

[median spade]

This one even better apparently

https://a.co/d/h90E6uG

Improved on some aspects from the SS02 which is already great

[remote cairn]

Okay thx

[quiet bay]

ngl I want to try soldering and desoldering a keyboard one day

but I know it will be such a pain in the ass

[median spade]

Indeed is awful

Especially since most boards use non leaded solder

[remote cairn]

In my country I can't find it on amazon so SS02 is fine right?

[median spade]

yeah it's great

[remote cairn]

okay thx

[static tendon]

What is the founders edition?

[austere creek]

just extra items/bundle discounts for buying during our founders campaign

[normal schooner]

discount on new lekker switches

[static tendon]

Is the founders campaign a discount for everyone within their timeframe or does that discount only apply if you already own a wooting keyboard?

[normal schooner]

everyone

[stray tiger]

Founders campaign is basically B1G1 free on Lekker switches during 80HE preorder (if you buy the pre-built with the L60's, then you get a pack of L45's free), a discord color/role, and your name on the Wooting website as an 80HE founder.

Jade's will be available to buy on the site soon but will not be part of the B1G1 promotion and a new Lekker 2.0 switch is in the works but likely won't be available during the 80HE pre-order period.

[harsh dove]

Save my B1G1 for when the Lekker v2 is out

😉

(I already own them all)

[stray tiger]

Wish that were possible but maybe they will offer a discount. It "almost" sounded like there may be more than 1 new switch coming as Mark said they wanted people to be able to pick a switch based on their preference of clacky, thocky, smooth, etc

[harsh dove]

Yeah definitely

Sounds good

[empty sinew]

speaking of which and since both of you are here, just finished lubing my lekker45's put them in the alumaze

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1190818120588337253/1215779536961011832/IMG_5457.mov?ex=65fdfded&is=65eb88ed&hm=575885d13d9c30e4f877a6da3051de3c0a32cddea1ebd275da8875eb51a84554&

how do you guys like the sound

(sorry for phone rec)

tbh idk if I heard them sound this good 😮

[stray tiger]

Too much light in the recording needs to be darker

[empty sinew]

😄

[stray tiger]

They sound good though

[empty sinew]

sound good right?

[median spade]

Time to buy a mic to plug into your phone and go pro

[empty sinew]

yeah I need to get myself a set

atleast something that holds the phone

[uncut musk]

Jades should be here sometime next week

[empty sinew]

I want to buy them also 🙂

[cyan adder]

what is b1G1

[cyan adder]

jades available from wooting site? big

[drifting heart]

W

[stray tiger]

yes

[harsh dove]

Buy One Get One

BOGO / B1G1

[static tendon]

Hmm so in this case you’d need to order a 80HE to get discounts on the lekkar switches? Makes sense but I do plan to hold off until the Lekkar 2.0 releases

[light agate]

should i leave my jade springs alone.. or should i relube them by bag lubing them or by putting 205g0 on the top and bottom of the spring?

[winged flint]

made a costom keybored for my sister what yall think was a cheep one and a way for me to try some fun mods

[fluid ravine]

keeb and mods?

[shell geode]

You should do one and see if you notice and prefer the difference!

[winged flint]

wym keeb

[empty sinew]

prolly he means which pcb

[winged flint]

tbh dont know had one laying around

[empty sinew]

grease the stabs :L)

[winged flint]

already did they arnt great they are holy moded too

[loud zephyr]

bro is that a mouse inside a mouse(BeastX)?

[minor mist]

what is up with that x beast xD wat the hell

[winged flint]

yes

[winged flint]

wym

oh im on duel pc so use 2 mice

my secound pc uses the superligth

[harsh dove]

I think they're referring to the way it looks

[loud zephyr]

that's the most ghetto mod I have ever seen

[minor mist]

that doesnt even look real, looks like a AI mistake hahahah >D

[empty sinew]

his beast x mouse was hungry and ate another mouse

[winged flint]

its a stock mouse its how its sold xd

[winged flint]

lmao

[empty sinew]

🙂

I got the ice blue mini

can see in my vid

[winged flint]

my hands too big for the mini

[hazy citrus]

is super lube fine on the 60he+ screw in stabs?

[empty sinew]

I used the molykot for wires

and 205g0 for housing\stem

[empty sinew]

hmm doesn't look so big hand.

what size is it?

[winged flint]

20 by 10

cm

if i rember corectly

lemme check

21 by 10.5 cm

[empty sinew]

oh ye thats too big

I am on 18x10

which makes it pretty good on finger\claw

[copper pulsar]

yea

i used super lube synthetic before i got permatex

works fine

[marsh saffron]

Why is the dongle so fucking big

[worldly phoenix]

Are these worth buying?

[gaunt marten]

eating mouse?

sign my friend up

[heady terrace]

@harsh dove what was that one keycap set u sent

with a sword

ashen or something?

[harsh dove]

IV Works Ashes

[heady terrace]

ty

[light agate]

you're right, thank you !!

[potent wedge]

https://youtu.be/9C3Et0kLfDo?si=AAQb7fhEyZG6BrHt

[potent wedge]

Has anyone tried it yet?

[tawdry tree]

If you’re not doing many boards then just wick is fine. It’s more consistent and cleaner than a sucker but takes a bit longer. Wick and noclean flux are quite cheap and versatile.

[tawdry tree]

I wouldn’t recommend it. 😂

Seems very slippery.

I guess that’s one way of hiding keycap shine. 🤷‍♂️

[median fog]

are Keychron kbs known for low input lag similar to Wooting or more on the slow end

Q1 seems significantly higher latency than 60HE

[tawdry tree]

Did you check Rtings? I think they do thorough latency tests.

Don’t think they’d have Q1 HE already though.

[median fog]

might just have to buy 80HE and mod switches to Tactile, since like all other HE kbs have shit latency, and also no Tactile options.

[tawdry tree]

Tactile will come, I have faith.

Tactile leafs will come and when Wooting decides to implement reverse polarity support we will be able to use the already existing tactile magnetic switche(s).

[median fog]

idk if it's just an easy/precise fix like that, I think better somehow to let us calibrate each key, so this way more precise, a calibration mode where you need to press like every key.
so this way also meaning probably just better support in general for many future switches.

[tacit mist]

would this be good for tape mod?

https://www.amazon.com/Scotch-Delicate-Surface-Painters-Tape/dp/B000BPRGFQ/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=MjVG7&content-id=amzn1.sym.3c3990c3-513c-4686-8d92-a42b4095cecb%3Aamzn1.symc.8b620bc3-61d8-46b3-abd9-110539785634&pf_rd_p=3c3990c3-513c-4686-8d92-a42b4095cecb&pf_rd_r=1CN062J7N9Z2C2212E58&pd_rd_wg=FfHyr&pd_rd_r=a7c68008-0bd3-43f2-b691-7aa10bc23021&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_d&th=1

[median fog]

Tactile leafs will come
So why don't we even have tactile leafs yet? surely they exist somewhere

how do these leafs even work with like lekker stem, if stem is not made for tactile i guess

[floral gale]

should i get jade switches or wait till new he switch releases come out

[hard moon]

that's the tape I prefer for it

[glacial wind]

I'm glad I didn't get them yet personally. Since there's buy one get one free with the module kit in the 80he campaign

[median fog]

I guess lekker stem has something for the leaf yeah, only that literally no picture shows that side of the switch (only if you search "lekker switch stem" you get a picture)

Tactile leafs will come
you mean probably like official leafs from wooting yeah. should have had them long ago i guess

there is still issue with that they would be off-center and only 1 touch point, so like would make key maybe feel a bit weird when pressing

[pastel vigil]

afaik bogo doesn't apply to jades

[tacit mist]

do they have that on amazon?

[median fog]

so how are Jade switches just compatible out of the box with Wooting, no calibration needed, or is kb like pretty constantly calibrating itself

[tawdry tree]

I very much agree. I initially though this would be the only way to properly support the Jade switches but that wasn’t the case. From my understanding, magnetism in the magnets used doesn’t deteriorate much so calibrating each key’s full travel and saving that would seem the best option. You’d have to do it once for each switch and if you swap switches you’d have to do it again which might not be great..

[median fog]

no you would do this fast tho, calibration takes like 1-2 min

[tawdry tree]

The KS-20 and KS-20T switch’s bottom housings have slots for tactile or clicky leafs. Their stems have actuators that bump that leaf so they were designed to have tactile and or clicky versions.

[median fog]

yeah but it's only semi-supported, no 2-touch leafs, less stability etc

[tawdry tree]

From Gateron as the Omni Point/KS-20s already had them as well. Perhaps Wooting could sell the leafs as well. Really not sure when and if they will be released though. But I have hope and all reasons to believe they will be coming.

[glacial wind]

you can't get 2 packs of jades but according to livestream you can get jades and get a pack of lekkers with it

[tawdry tree]

I might have seen another switch with a leaf design like that where the leaf attaches to the opposite side of where it is “actuated”. I don’t remember which switch it was though but I’m quite sure.

[tawdry tree]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

3.5mm until proven otherwise. Basically.

[median fog]

yeah so it calibrates itself always, I also wondered before if it does what happens if you don't press key first time completely etc

[tawdry tree]

^

[median fog]

so this is something that should be communicated better tho by Wooting

who of the pros really know for example, that use wooing and trust it

[tawdry tree]

As long as a switch isn’t pressed deeper than 3.5mm the keyboard will treat it as a 3.5mm switch.

[tawdry tree]

How you mean?

[median fog]

like those that use analog keys, especially I guess in trackmania

but also relevant in other games a bit

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, it seems to me more like a quick fix to make Jades more compatible.

[median fog]

no but I think it's also so you don't have to calibrate keys all the time, so it doesn't maybe interfere with like tachyon latency etc