🔧│keyboard_modding

[cyan adder]

But since I didn’t want to take them out from plate and put them in back I just lube them directly when I got them

[pale cloud]

Or don’t need

[cyan adder]

Personal preference

[pale cloud]

Okok

I thought springs were already lubed so

[cyan adder]

I found out that they weren’t on my batch

But maybe on yours

Also personal preference but I like to feel the oil on my fingers when I hold the spring with my fingers

So I know they’re perfectly smooth

[pale cloud]

ah i see

thanks for the tips

[shell crown]

No, they different

If its same then yes, if not nope

[gaunt marten]

https://fxtwitter.com/AviFPS_/status/1764300874170695715 @pale cloud

now i just need my oring and my 16 jades thats stuck at a courier hub

[elfin garnet]

I like them a lot. The only reason I'm asking is because I have the jade space key problem. So if I press hard on the left hand side it pops out on the right side. It's not really a problem though because I have to try to make it happen. It doesn't happen by accident

[gaunt marten]

u can put tape on keycap stem

or use o rings

[tawdry tree]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[pale cloud]

Anyone got any idea what oring size is ok that fits wooting, burger mount

Wanna purchase one off shopee

[daring helm]

https://shp.ee/5k60zqq isnt this just the ks20

[gaunt marten]

yes

its ks20 white

[wet hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqFJkStxZI8

interesting

[gaunt marten]

different profile & materials affects the sound by a decent amount

[wet hazel]

Yup, the video was too short and no description xD

[boreal fjord]

Does anyone know the diameter size of raptor HE springs

[median spade]

same as lekkers

and jades

[median spade]

and position of switch on the board with mounting style, etc etc

it's honeslty so much that changes sound and all that

[polar girder]

Busted out the module yesterday and realized I need to tune and lube the stabs if I’m going to rebuild this thing.

Need a grease syringe

Alexotos video is goated. Shame I didn’t watch it before I went to put it together tho lol

[gaunt marten]

just dont syringe too much

add little by little

[slim drift]

Those keycaps are SICK

[minor mist]

where can i find or request the design files for the wooting two HE?

[iron bear]

https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-design/tree/main/wooting-two-he

[minor mist]

thank you

are this files suppose to have the correct life measurements?

[iron bear]

It's Wootings files so i'd guess so yeah?

[minor mist]

this dont look like the files they used for printing, its also missing the board, that its crucial when doing modifications to the case, the geo is not consistent over all of it witch tells me this are not the printing files, for the size it self i will assume the value of "m" its actually mm, it seems to almost match the "advertised measurements.

but with out the board it self its hard to make modifications, i need to know the tolerances

[dapper nebula]

hey people. can I use any custom keycaps on the wooting 60he ?

[iron bear]

This file should have everything

[minor mist]

yeah i didnt try that one since its a stp file i use blender, i will do the conversion i guess.

[iron bear]

Yeah

[kind helm]

modding_faq, the channel below this one

[minor mist]

why would they make this case so big o.o i really dont see the point, sure even if u had a bit more then what i marked. but its so much more space, it almost looks like they wanted to put a battery in their

i'm going to cut this case in half, make a mold of it, make a rubber bottom case change the keycaps to lowprofile and make this a low profile keyboard, my wrist already hurts from using it even with the wrist rest

rubber is to make it more silent, i hate that this trend of my keys need to sound "x" in my opinion my keys need to sound like i'm not clicking them, silence.

[shell crown]

Bro that is for the looks, and to make it angled. You can do whatever you want with it but you lose warranty

[minor mist]

make it 50% bigger and taller for the looks giving gamers carpal tunnel syndrome lol from all the keyboards i had its probably the tallest, i dont even know why they include feets to make it angled 😄

[minor mist]

and it just gives less options to people, thats why the feets are there, to give it less or more angle, if you add a non removable angle your taking away options.

And yes i dont really care for the warranty i bought it with the intention to fully change it apart from the board and switches, it's all it matters in this keyboards.

[dapper nebula]

oh sorry, and thank u very much

[kind helm]

i didn't expect the faq to have so much information either. a lot of the mods that people do are already covered in there. 🙂

[minor mist]

this is what i dont understand about this tech companies, i had to do the same for my headphones, had to buy a super light Logitech headphones, cuz i wanted light headphones, customize a proper mic into them from artic 9, and add the battery swap, to have a proper light, with swappable battery and proper mic, cuz no one is making that. wireless, light, good sound, good mic, no cables by using batteries.

The only companies doing a acceptable job are mouse companies but they take ages to deliver, different problem.

its nothing new, just look at the new incoming keyboard, 80%, why not 75%? that would make it so much easier to mod.

Its almost as they dont listen to what we ask.

[iron bear]

It's nice to be able to mod ones gear but to each their own opinion because i use the Maxwells & a G502X Lightspeed lol 🏋️‍♂️

Even with 75% cases one would have to make the Gasket plate fit somehow, 60% cases have more of a standard

[pine kayak]

Raptor HE swithces with the lekker stems goes hard for anyone on the fence.

[iron bear]

Yeah they sound nice

[kind helm]

low key i agree :3

[loud zephyr]

more height please, keyboard design is at its peak; brick it up

[kind helm]

hey, at least you are not bending your wrist anymore, just a arm workout

W design

[minor mist]

its not just about preference, but about health as well why do you think you see so many people with carpal tunnel syndrome this days?

Like for example your headphones are 490g, geez thats insane, mines are 160g lol using that all day will do some harm.

that's the reason i mode mines, i was feeling headaches from hearing the headphones all day, during work and after work playing games.

[iron bear]

Should tell that to e.g. F1 drivers too then

[kind helm]

in terms of headphones, i think earbud is superior. i felt tired using headphone all day and i was using wired ones

[minor mist]

see thats my point, i agree earbuds are superior, but sadly i have stupid ears that make the earbuds fall all the time, and i dont like the ones that you have to rape your ear only open ones, and their mic is crap. but you are right still better then headphones.

[pastel vigil]

lowkey think the 80 might flop

[kind helm]

have you tried changing to like a memory foam earbud tips? also mic i just buy like a 40 dollar one and put on my table. i dont need my boys to hear me use my bathroom when my headphone on :3

[iron bear]

Seperate mic is the way

[kind helm]

80 look weird af ngl

[pastel vigil]

They could have just created a notch in the case for the LED strip similar to the one for the strap in the 60 and stuck with a more traditional 65% layout, or just gone full TKL

[kind helm]

the keys on the right looks chunky when it is arranged that way

[pastel vigil]

idk they picked the worst of both worlds and its driving my ocd crazy, hard pass for me.

[kind helm]

yea

LOL

exactly my thoughts

like you already made that part chuky why not just go tkl at that point

[pastel vigil]

and even though they moved the arrow keys, it still looks bad idk what they were thinking. 0 compatibility with anything 3rd party too.

I hate to sound like a hater because I love wooting and I love everything they are doing with the 80 but the layout.

[kind helm]

i sometimes work from home and do some programming, i wish i can have 65% and get my arrow keys back

but i am not gonna get 80 because the way it looks, i rather use my old 75% if i am have to

[pastel vigil]

Arrow keys is really the only thing I miss on the 60

I have a seperate numpad that I like to use on the left and that basically has a navigation cluster built in

[iron bear]

We do not know how the gasket plate is mounted in the 80HE so 3rd party cases are still a problem, also there's an add-on, 3 angles on it etc.

[minor mist]

actually no, i used those kind of earbuds once, and it felt dirty, rapy almost lol i dont know how to explain it hahah i never used them again, i bought a old earbuds from samsung that looked likes small bugs, they work fine, but at the desk i rather have the other ones, and i needed wireless including my mic so i couldnt use a desk mic, i end up going for this combo :

Logitech G G435 Lightspeed -- super light 165 grams
with the following mods:

Removed useless stuff - minus 25 grams
Artic 9 swappable batteries + 20 grams
and Callstel HZ mic incorporated inside the headphones +10 grams

For a total of 170 grams

[kind helm]

man's building that neck muscle

[iron bear]

Can get better sound for cheaper with IEMs

Had a 75% and sold it & don't like the normal ''TKL''

[minor mist]

lol so much better

[wide kraken]

not that i disagree with some of the comfort points, but i feel like every keyboard ever is like that unless it's specifically a flat case/low profile board

you'll also still have to find some space for the connector daughterboard

[minor mist]

yeah i accounted for that, just need to make it cleaner and add my own style to it

[median spade]

Issue is more people not having proper chair height, desk height, etc

[minor mist]

true they should see the opmius video on that 😄

[median spade]

Ever since I fixed desk height for me, and such no issues with keyboard front height while gaming

I float wrists when I type and that’s what everyone should be doing too

[iron bear]

This be me

[minor mist]

for typing yes, for gaming maybe its wrong but i play much better with my wrist down

[median spade]

Yeah I’m the “right” picture

Should want wrist floating no matter

Even when gaming

Otherwise your impinging wrist and that’s what causes carpal tunnel

[minor mist]

yes i'm not saying youy "shouldnt" but i play better with them resting on the table xD

[median spade]

But funny enough how you said the wooting is “tall”

It’s super low actually you just want 0 degrees

[minor mist]

yes since i have the wrists resting on the table

[median spade]

You also shouldn’t be using a full size if you care about ergonomics

They are awful for that

[minor mist]

and yes you should have an option for 0 degrees i can show you what i used before and what i use now

[wide kraken]

split ergo choc HE keyboard when

[minor mist]

i need full size for work

[harsh dove]

Wrist rest are actually bad for people

[median spade]

Why everyone using their wooting for work

[median spade]

Correct

[iron bear]

https://gcustomcables.com/products/libra-mini-keyboard-kit Such ergonomics

[median spade]

I don’t want to even touch my 60he outside of when I game as it’s such a subpar typing experience and sound against my customs

[minor mist]

look at the difference lol

[clear kindle]

Just got the KS-20u in. From feel alone, they feel drastically better and firm compared to the L45. Practically no stem wobble, which was what was annoying me with the L45. Spring is bigger than normal too.

[median spade]

I had that same Logitech and it caused more pain for me tbh

[harsh dove]

Yeah they use a bigger spring

So can’t spring swap

[median spade]

Oh interesting

[minor mist]

i dont want 2 keyboards sitting in my table and having to be constatly changing.

[clear kindle]

Yeah it's fine. I don't plan to swap. They feel so good.

[median spade]

You plug in keyboard for 8 hours and then the other one when done?

[harsh dove]

Yeah I just threw those in my salvation

[median spade]

Wooting is an awful typing experience for all day work tbh

[clear kindle]

It feels like a nice middle ground between L45 and L60 on the firmness.

Getting my ducks in a row

[minor mist]

thats why i am changing it, i liked the logitech, but its not usb C, and i wanted to give a try to rapid trigger, so i have low profile keys comming and changing the case to make it more lowprofile and more silent

[median spade]

I mean none of those things would make it good for all day imo

It’s stiff, has tray mount points all over, steel top case, etc

If you care about comfort get a proper custom imo

[untold wigeon]

hows the sound?

[wide kraken]

dang, that must be wafer thin then. my nuphy air isn't much thinner than the Two HE other than the caps

[clear kindle]

A tiny bit more thockiness, and less treble compared to the L45.

[minor mist]

i never had a problem with the Logitech keyboard on that matter, and i am making the case in rubber, and the logitech is also steel top never bother me

I hate custom keyboards to type, 1st i need a full keyboard, for 3D, second most people do custom keyboards not for typing but cuz they want to customize it and with their pretty keycaps and for orgasmic sounds, i would pay for a coompletly silent keyboard instead xD, i type much faster and better on low-profile keyboards like the logitech.

[clear kindle]

Sorry I wish I could give more information, but I'm kinda new to this. I just know that these feel much better than the L45. Like it's really noticable on the quality and firmness.

[minor mist]

and yes its crazy thin lol

[median spade]

I mean silent switches exist for a reason lol

Quieter than the Logitech you’re using now at that

[minor mist]

they are not silent, my brother has them on his custom, they are a bit less noisy, still noisy, and yes logitech is not silent, with my changes its a bit less nosy most likely the same as the quiet switches.

[untold wigeon]

where did u order from?

[clear kindle]

https://mechkeys.com/products/gateron-ks-20u?variant=44792748343519

[median spade]

probably his build tbh

with proper lubed silent switches, and case they are quiet as you can get

In terms of keyboards

[minor mist]

tbh his gaming keyboard is quiter then the custom one he uses to take to work, and its a 60 he lol, but we made a rubber case, it completely changed the noise plus the o rings ofc.

thats why i want to make a rubber case for this one it will decrease the sound by a lot the only problem, this one is not standard, meaning i have to do all the modeling myself. annoying.

[iron bear]

So the PCBA will be ''hugged'' with the 3D printed ''rubber''? or how are you mounting it?

[minor mist]

there will be a layer in between but yes

there will be a layer here, i will use the one that already comes with the board

[iron bear]

I see, what low profile keycaps did you get for the switches?

[minor mist]

the only ones available that are low enough xD from all the options they looked the best i guess, still waiting for them to arrive to actually test it out

XVX Horizon V2 Low Profile

https://en.xvxchannel.com/en-eu/products/xvx-horizon-low-profile-shine-through-keycap-set-117-key

[iron bear]

Ok i've seen those, yeah

I like silent keyboards too will be interesting to see how this mod will turn out!

[minor mist]

i will share each time i make one of the modifications

and real sound tests not like this youtube videos where i see no dam difference in their "silent" mods

sounding different is not silent sounding hahahaha 😄

and regarding your question, its not printed rubber, i will be creating a mold to have a better result

[iron bear]

Ah i see, how are you intending to do that?

[median spade]

This was a build I made for silence, and even this is louder than how it sounded irl

[minor mist]

3d print the actual 3d model for the final case, create a mold with silicone and clay

[median spade]

was basically no sound with any ambient sound in the room

[iron bear]

Ok as i thought then

[kind helm]

it is good enough after modding, and i am a grad student who doesn't want to be alone in the lab so i just do my stuff remotely from home :3

[median spade]

I mean I work remote too, but I have other keyboards for work

with the cost of stuff these days you can get a board for $30 that outshine wooting when it coems to typing and sound

[wide kraken]

that's impressive for zilents lol. so many videos i've seen of zilents they sound almost like regular switches

either that or you can just see them typing unrealistically softly

[median spade]

Nah I pound my keys lmao. It's just room, plate, and lube, etc

They were so quiet it was boring

[kind helm]

silence switch i personally like gateron brown, it is quiet but still got a bit of sound for personality

:3

[iron bear]

I usually have headphones on so i don't hear the switches

[median spade]

I like high pitched or clacky for my personal stuff i use every day

[iron bear]

I'd say feel is more important but that's preference i guess

[median spade]

like this is one of my daily drivers for example

[kind helm]

i agree with that actually, because if the feel is good, the sound won't be so bad. and you can control the pitch through modding the case and foam things like that

i always look like wobble and smoothness before "sound"

[wide kraken]

i started looking into silents after bringing my nuphy air into the office and getting looks 😅
those gateron LPs feel damn good when lubed, but they CLACK

[kind helm]

you are brave lmao

[median spade]

I've tried pretty much all of the silent stuff you can use out there

MX zilents are still the quiestest but they also cost $$$$ to make

[kind helm]

my boss practially sit next to me back in my old lab i never even tried to bring the keeb i use at home

[median spade]

to the point just get some of the other stuff and lube them these days

well if you want to make true zlients i should say they are costly

[kind helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahShvBMoMWk i saw this video same time ago and i think its kinda cool

[clear kindle]

All done

[minor mist]

have you tried rubber? still to loud for me

[iron bear]

That's very silent for the Lekkers though

[median spade]

yeah that test can't be accurate lol

that's quieter than even silent switches

[kind helm]

you use openback headphone?

no way i can hear that with my headphone on

[minor mist]

no but my brother does

he uses DT 990

and the problem its not him, its the people around him.

and yes its accurate

[median spade]

yeah no way that's accurate lol

unless he dumped a tub of lube on the switches and it's sitting in sorbothane

[iron bear]

Have you got a pic of the Rubber case?

[kind helm]

in the video link, that switch did like a flex cut for the switches

maybe you can try that

[minor mist]

lubed, rubber keycaps, rubber case , o rings, foam and slicers

[median spade]

I had to raise the decibels by 25 in audacity to even hear something so i know this test is not accurate

it now sounds exactly like what you're saying however

like this sound test is not accurate lol

[kind helm]

plus the holes, appearently the guy in the video did it from some other switch and it works in terms of dampening sound

https://youtu.be/ahShvBMoMWk?feature=shared&t=237 with time mark

[median spade]

sound just getting dumped into the case instead of reverbing in the housing

makes sense

p cool

[kind helm]

yea i was gonna try that switch out because the no rubber design is pretty interesting

[wide kraken]

i have the wuque studio silents (also OEM'd by Haimu) and they're pretty neat

[minor mist]

wat, i can hear it pretty well what are you talking xD i just recorded with my mic, not a "special" tool recorder or anything if thats what you mean

[wide kraken]

albeit scratchy even with lubing (but also my actual hotswap board hasn't come in yet so that's just initial impressions outside of keyboard)

[median spade]

yeah i listened to it on my phone and then on my pc as well

audacity suggested 30db to even make it audible

[minor mist]

thats pretty cool overview 😮

[median spade]

it literally has no sound

[clear kindle]

I'm gonna cream. These KS-20u are delicious! Gonna return the L45's tomorrow.

[median spade]

just sounds like unlubed topre when audio is adjusted properly

so i can see why you think it's loud

using silicone mid piece with a plastic plate would help noise a lot too

as well as sorbothane in the case

[untold wigeon]

are they actually that good?

[clear kindle]

They are better than good!

[untold wigeon]

damn

[kind helm]

record the sound, let's hear it

[minor mist]

thats the slicers rubber domes, is that what you mean?=

[clear kindle]

factory lube is pretty good

[untold wigeon]

imma have to re order them when max gaming gets them

mind sending a sound test?

excuse me?

[wide kraken]

that's the sound test

[untold wigeon]

😂

[kind helm]

next level sound test

LMAO

[clear kindle]

Sorry, was making a video

lmfao

[untold wigeon]

im schleep

[wide kraken]

mine have been "in the air" for 2 days somehow 😓

[median spade]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[wide kraken]

probably unloaded but unscanned

[median spade]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

here are two sound tests with proper mic from cam

on the KS20U

[clear kindle]

The escape key is a metal keycap btw. The rest is GMK Laser.

[kind helm]

better than lekker for sure but low key i think most switches are better than lekker. it is crazy that a lubed lekker with no leaf can feel scratchy.

[clear kindle]

Ohh shit. I just realized I had my fan running in the background

Let me remake the video.

[wide kraken]

i think the scratchy comes from when those 4 nubs in the corners make excessive contact with the top housing or something along those lines

[median spade]

idk what you guys been using if you think the lekkers feel scratchy at all

[median spade]

I don't know any mx switch remotely that smooth at all

[wide kraken]

i think it's manufacturing tolerance, i've had a handful of lekkers that are just straight up scrunchy

[clear kindle]

That should sound clearer than the first video

[kind helm]

👀 i think mr. tenturo is coping

[median spade]

Uh no lol?

[wide kraken]

i was reading some older threads and the scratchy stuff was one of the reasons people were pointing switches south facing

[median spade]

they're basically "contactless" so would be surprised if you can tell me a mx switch that even is close to the level of smooth

[untold wigeon]

have u done tape mod or case foam and poron pad?

[median spade]

And I've used pretty much anything in the keyboard hobby you can think of

[clear kindle]

I'm using CF plate and poron pad.

[median spade]

og gateron inks were probably the closest

[untold wigeon]

kk

[clear kindle]

Total build is $500

[median spade]

it's a phone video so not going to be accurate, i sent you the two cam did with a proper mic that show the sound better

[kind helm]

I would open it up and check but i moved and didn't buy a new switcher opener. i think there is for sure something happening in there

[untold wigeon]

yes i know

[median spade]

phone sound tests are my main gripe with the hobby

it's the way to get people to waste money

[kind helm]

because there is like a extra layer of sound in lekker

[untold wigeon]

bro i need someone to buy my frickin module so i can buy the switches

[median spade]

from what we've been able to deduce it's just poor top housing quality and the upstroke noise

I know what you mean as it drove me nuts on all HE switches, even the Jades, till i lubed top housing

[kind helm]

jade is much much much cleaner

[median spade]

sounded like a rattle as i called it

[kind helm]

yea

[median spade]

but yeah i fixed it by lubing top housing on jades, or the medical tape mod pochizo and others did for their lekkers

[iron bear]

https://www.youtube.com/@DBOKEY This person have soundtests from a few sources which is good

[untold wigeon]

thats the tape mod?

[kind helm]

think its a different thing for lekker

[median spade]

no the og tape mod is putting in on the pcb

[kind helm]

specifically

[median spade]

yeah it's for lekker specifically

but here is my thing to show the lubed top housing vs not

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[untold wigeon]

like 3 layers of painters tape on the back of the pcb?

[median spade]

yep

or however many you like

[untold wigeon]

oh

yeah ive done that

[median spade]

medical tape mod for lekkers is literally cutting thin strips of medical tape and putting on the top housing

[wide kraken]

fwiw i don't think you need to lube the top housing separately, as long as you get the top edge and those 4 nubs on the stem corners (which are what contact the top housing)
because people usually only lube the rails

[median spade]

takes like 7 hours it's horrendous

[untold wigeon]

i tried doing that for stabs

well i did

[median spade]

I tried moderation, and what you said before just doing top housing

[untold wigeon]

never again

[median spade]

as i hate overlubing stuff but had to lube full top housing to finally get rid of it

[untold wigeon]

might just send my l45’s to kbdfans and let them lube them for me

since i cba

[median spade]

lol look in your region before doing that

will cost you a ton to go the kbdfans route

[kind helm]

lubing the top housing is it like an alternative to the thockson's switch tape thingy

[median spade]

unless you live in china

[untold wigeon]

35$

[median spade]

for jades yes as they are tight on the top housing for the stem

[untold wigeon]

with shipping i think

[median spade]

for lekkers no

[untold wigeon]

imma look again

[median spade]

the stem wobble is too much so that's why the tape works

it helps on the lekkers but the rattle sound still there becuase of all the wobble the lekkers have

[kind helm]

ah i c

[untold wigeon]

54$ with shipping

lube service cost 24

[median spade]

yeah look in your region instead

[untold wigeon]

shipping 19

i live in sweden aint no one doing tht

[kind helm]

i think it is better to just get ks20 or something instead of lubing lekker

[median spade]

would be surprised

[median spade]

or jades, but yea

lekkers only if you want everything from wooting really

[kind helm]

cause i feel like without that switch tape mod, the sound is just s44t if i am completely honest.

[untold wigeon]

ill just order the ks-20u’s when available in EU

[kind helm]

i still remember the moment when i just got the keyboard. other than the RT feature it feels like a 30 dollar knock off gaming keyboard

[untold wigeon]

im not dropping 80/90$ on switches+shipping xd

[median spade]

Yeah compared to my customs too i was like welp we back on a gamer keyboard

used my stock for a year before finally lubing the switches

well i put gmk keycaps on it and rotated the switches to south facing back then

but that was it

[kind helm]

you are too resilient, i don't even want to touch that until i got all the stuff to mod it first

[median spade]

basically didn't type on it and just gamed is how i even tolerated it

[wide kraken]

i have handlubed jades on my alphanumerics and stock L60s on my numpad right now and it's a shock every time i use the numpad lol
(waiting for next shipment of jades and KS-20Us to finish)

[kind helm]

LMAO

[median spade]

the good old HE rattle

But yeah i've wasted too much money on my wooting trying to get it to sound good

so i gave up and jsut went back to a tofu case for it lmao

[untold wigeon]

tofu case is best

i had alumaze but i sent it in for return after reciving the tofu redux

[median spade]

best was frog mini so far

salvation after that

but salvation sounded too good with mx I gave up on using my wooting in it

[feral timber]

question,do you use Gummy O-Ring and GraveShift together or pick one?

[median spade]

they are the same thing

graveshift is just the brand for the orings they're selling

[feral timber]

ic thanks

[untold wigeon]

how much is salvation case?

[median spade]

it's $300

[untold wigeon]

yeah

[median spade]

but i got mine for $140

[untold wigeon]

fuck that xddd

[median spade]

so no love lost

now it's just another board to use in my collection as built it with mx blacks and such

[wide kraken]

that's the one with leafsprings?

[median spade]

ye

[untold wigeon]

redux is bang for buck then

[wide kraken]

dang

[median spade]

idk what the cause is on HE stuff but it would soud amazing with mymx builds no hollowness, and then i swap in 60he and hollow

gave up on it and just now use it at work desk

[wide kraken]

yeah i honestly kinda regret getting the alumaze. something about it just sounds hollow compared to tofu even with foam

unless i just haven't thrown enough/right mods at it

[agile grove]

I wonder if the magnet weight is increasing upstroke force giving it that "HE" sound

[untold wigeon]

so its no point trying to get the module to sound good?

[median spade]

I mean stlil a point, but just get it to a point you are fine with

I gave up on it sounding actually good like my mx builds

[kind helm]

i think using module you can't do gummy oring mount as well

[median spade]

it sounds good now for HE tho

[untold wigeon]

u can

[median spade]

you need clip in stabs to gummy on the module

[agile grove]

not true anymore actually

[kind helm]

oh?

[agile grove]

also not true

[median spade]

or the thinner oring that too

I mean it's true

[untold wigeon]

yea

[median spade]

but we have a edge case now lol

[untold wigeon]

30-55A small oring works

[median spade]

with thinner oring

[agile grove]

graveshift's new small o-ring works just find with screw in stabs

[kind helm]

idk i just checked the faq, i am not buying a module after i f44ked up and brought the 60he

[wide kraken]

do you have to cut off your standoffs to use the gummy o-ring? I saw some people doing that on other 60%s...
wonder if I can just leave on the bottom burger o-ring or something

[median spade]

This why I gave up and just put my wooting back in a tofu as look at that difference

[kind helm]

ah the echo

[median spade]

echo, rattle, etc

[thick mural]

that's tuff

mine sounds pretty nice

[untold wigeon]

you can buy my iso with one broken LED on the enter key for cheap xdddd

ez fix

[median spade]

yeah idk still how your ssounds good

[kind helm]

nah man, i spent too much money on wooting already. the money i spent on building a wooting i can build like 3 or 4 decent keyboards.

[median spade]

Fjell was the worst case I tried for my 60he

worse than the tofu

[kind helm]

PAIN🥲

[median spade]

sent that thing back as soon as possible

[thick mural]

i didn't do much tbh

i use raptors

[untold wigeon]

maybe in the future😄

[thick mural]

with lekker stems

[median spade]

Yeah I did raptors, jades, etc everything in my fjell and sounded like a tin can

do you use like 3 desk mats or something

[thick mural]

no, it's on my bare metal desk

[median spade]

it be like that sometimes

oh wow lmao

when i was using it on my bare desk it went from tin can to ultra tin can

but yeah fjell was the last straw alongside salvation for me to give up on my 60he in a nice case

now it's friction oring in a tofu and living life

[thick mural]

[median spade]

xg2431 good taste

used that monitor for a while

[thick mural]

i used to use the omen x25

[median spade]

did it die on you or something

[thick mural]

but tn viewing angles

[median spade]

ah

x25 best 240hz for motion clarity on lcd stuff still to this day

but yeah tn things

[thick mural]

it's not as fast as the x25 but xg2431 is still pretty good

i have 2 x25s in my storage rn

got both on a flash sale a couple years ago

[median spade]

@kind helm @untold wigeon this is where i have settled with my 60he and doing no more

[median spade]

where were you when i was going after one and got scammed so hard to chargeback

[untold wigeon]

MY EARS

[thick mural]

i got them to guinea pig

[untold wigeon]

i hate clack

[median spade]

oh clack is life

[thick mural]

heard so much about it so i bought 2

[median spade]

you'll realize it one day everyone does

[untold wigeon]

nuh uh

doubt

[median spade]

I started off as foam enjoyer

[untold wigeon]

cream is where its at

[median spade]

or "thocc"

and then you use a proper clack board and it's over

natural progession of keyboards

[thick mural]

wish they would rerelease it with e-tn or ips

[kind helm]

that is jades right, jades is fine. higher pitch than my taste but it is cleaner than lekker.

[median spade]

jades with lubed top housing ye

and no plate foam or anything

[thick mural]

i like clack

but not when it's too high pitched

thock tho >

[median spade]

the higher the pitch

the more i enjoy it

want my ears bleeding

[kind helm]

i am cool with no foam actually, it kinda just showcases the switch sound on its own

[median spade]

exactly

[thick mural]

i went no foam on my original 60he build in the fjell

[untold wigeon]

need it quiet as possible

[thick mural]

sounded not too bad

[median spade]

this is my other daily driver and my ideal

mx blacks on aluminum plate never lost

[kind helm]

always going to be my favorite.

[median spade]

I have one foam monster build I pull out when i want to get some "creamy" or going

use it for 15 mins to satisfy the urge and then get bored

pretty good

[kind helm]

that double stage spring is so nice to type on

[median spade]

long springs are best springs

one of the things i can't live without in my boards now

[kind helm]

i am waiting for the double stage spring for he switches rn, then i will buy a switch opener and torture myself again

[kind helm]

it is crazy how small stuff like this is actually noticible when you switch out to something else..

[feral timber]

anyone got any luck getting stabies to work?

[median spade]

indeed

normal springs now jsut feel so light and i get typing errors all over

and "slow to respond"

[agile grove]

they arent compatible

stock that is, you need to file the plate

[feral timber]

pointless upgrade lol

thanks

[kind helm]

yea, with that old keyboard my stopping in val felt very clean because i can feel the switch snapping back as i let go. but with wooting i can do weird ass "running" one tap

[pastel vigil]

Tragic I can't get some for wooting

[feral timber]

so i order prebuild 60he+ and non screw in stab are supported?

[wide kraken]

yes:

[untold wigeon]

yes it comes with plate mount

but u can use screw ins

[kind helm]

the platemount is pretty good though it is decently tight

screw in you have to use the module version no?

[untold wigeon]

yes

[feral timber]

Damn i will need to cancel it

[untold wigeon]

why?:/

[kind helm]

honestly just grab the module, then switch from gateron, and case from someplace else maybe like tofu

[feral timber]

I got some stabies

[untold wigeon]

yeah?

[kind helm]

no point getting that stock key cap and lekker switch and that plastic case

[feral timber]

Yah was told it wouldnt work so.

I got all many old part sitting around

[untold wigeon]

stabies wont work on module or the pre built i think, you’ll need to file it down or smth

[feral timber]

So what screw in work? i try search and i cant find the compatible list.

Thank you

[untold wigeon]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

read here

[feral timber]

last question does GraveShift oring work with platemount stab?

[kind helm]

comon brother

xD

[feral timber]

didnt see that but thanks for answering

[wide kraken]

basically plate mount = graveshift M, screw-in = graveshift S

[feral timber]

that all i really need to know mate,thank a bunch

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-all-nice-gif-22927671

[valid flint]

guys so far i have these parts collected for my first custom keyboard.

- Wooting HE+ Module
- Tofu60 Redux
- Gateron magnetic Jade switches
- Krytox 205G0 & Molykote EM-50L Lubes
- 3Layer-Tape mod
- Switch pads

I wanna make it as thoccy as possible, any tips or additional parts that would result in a very nice thoccy sound? :)

Also best for thoccy sound would be multiple shot PBT caps right?

[kind helm]

👀 jade = higher pitch to work with, thock = low pitch. throw a bunch of foams in there and pray to the keyboard god

[valid flint]

Are there any options to the switches for the wooting rapid fire then?

I just heard that the Gateron magnetic jade would be the best option for wooting

[kind helm]

i dont have a clue which one is deeper sounding though

[median spade]

Ks20u from what we know currently

Are deepest

[valid flint]

thank you ::)

[wide kraken]

tfw was wondering why my alumaze sounded hollow compared to all the sound tests I've seen in the tofu

it's the dang feet

alumaze have corner feet, while the tofu has the full length feet

take the tall feet off the alumaze, boom, no more hollow
(but carpal tunnel instead)

[valid flint]

is your hand more likely to get carpaltunnel when the keyboard is flat? damn didnt know that

is it also the case with tofu?

[wide kraken]

hm, think i got that backwards actually

less deflection = better, so flat is better?

anywho i was (incorrectly) using that as synonym for "uncomfortable", since i'm using MT3 profile keycaps and laying flat makes row 1 slightly annoying to reach over

[median spade]

Bumpoms or feet make a surprising change in some cases

Pretty wild it is

[wide kraken]

yeah, makes a big difference

side note: "silicone feet" on amazon is not a precise enough search for this use case...

[untold wigeon]

has anyone tried switch pads here?

if so did it even make much of a difference

ive heard very mixed reviews, not sure if its worth

[untold wigeon]

same, mt3 keycaps goat..

which mt3 u got? i got the usual b.o.w looks clean paired iwht a silver case.

i think my spacebar came with a QC issue or maybe its meant to be like that

as another user reported here the light shines thru the spacebar and u can see all the internals, looks super ugly

but other than that its all good

[tardy cove]

Switch pads that sit on the edge of the plate? I think it's been mentioned that they change the height of the switch and can cause some inconsistencies

[untold wigeon]

rlly wanna pick up an artisan spacebar but not sure where is a good place to start

[tardy cove]

But I have not tried them myself

[wide kraken]

dusk on 60HE and pulse on 2HE

[wide kraken]

just tried one and it made the switch sit high enough that pulling the cap pulls the whole switch. probably would not recommend for what NorseKaffe said.
also didn't noticably change the sound, probably since the guide pins need to go through anyways, so

(this was with a jade switch)

[median spade]

Did absolutely nothing

[copper pulsar]

for my build

i am debating on getting this pink one

orrrrr

do i get something maroon to match the case instead

this is the build in question.

[untold wigeon]

thank you yall, yeah im gonna stay away from it fs

[median spade]

Stop now

Don’t get into artisans

[copper pulsar]

I NEED ONE

i feel like

it just completes the build

yk

added character

[median spade]

It does but next thing you’ll know you’ll have $40k in artisans

It’s worse than keyboards itself

[copper pulsar]

to be completely honest

i’m debating on getting a 3d printer

and making them.

LOL

[median spade]

Do that

Having an artisan that costs more than your keycaps would be

[copper pulsar]

LOL

i was thinking of getting this

[wide kraken]

just be prepared for all the cleanup and post-processing that comes with a resin printer

[median spade]

Does it come with domain expansion

[copper pulsar]

yea, my dad has a 3d printer for work and he’s told me that it’s a hassle

[copper pulsar]

i hope so

[loud zephyr]

Get the brocap skull, pretty much as OG as you can get

And sorry for your wallet if ever you fall in that rabbit hole

[minor mist]

Raptor’s & Gateron KS-20’s are compatible switches with wooting, being gateron the ones who provide wooting with the switches right? is there any others?

i'm am looking for the smallest travel distance switches available, i know theres not many options, probably this are the only ones i guess.

[wide kraken]

there's a compatibility list in #🪛│modding_faq - gateron jade (KS-20T) would have smallest travel distance (3.5mm), but since you mentioned quietness earlier may or may not be what you're looking for

[minor mist]

yeah i saw in their website they had till 3.5 but yeah probably loud, thats why i was looking for more options, i will take a look at the list thx.

[minor mist]

Thank you, i will give them a try and probably drip some lub on them and mod them

you guys are deep on keyboard modding, why there isnt more options of different materials for switches? theres so many materials that would probably sound so much better.

i learn this stuff by watching videos and doing it myself but never was able to actually ask certain questions

[wide kraken]

for what it's worth here's my sample of what lubed jades sound like in a very sound insulated 2HE case (poron plate foam, ipxe case foam, butyl lining)

obv environment/mic/mods will vary etc. but a general idea

[minor mist]

ty

uh its even louder then i expected.

[wide kraken]

i think it's mostly just that HE switches haven't taken off until recently, gateron's the main manufacturer, and they only recently came out with newer designs like Jades and KS-20U

[minor mist]

yeah but even standard switches are always made of the same materials, like theres no rubber or materials that dont make as much sound

[wide kraken]

most of em just stick some silicone in contact areas, other than the haimus mentioned earlier, so generally the tradeoff is soft bottom-out or "mush"

as for other silent materials though, i did just order some lichicx raw switches, they use PTFE on the bottom of the stem instead which should be interesting

[minor mist]

https://drop.com/talk/133268/we-know-nothing-about-switch-materials

yeah i have been reading a bit about it, and most use the same variations of materials, i guess cuz its a easy way to go.

[gaunt marten]

https://cafege.com.au/products/frog-mini-he-plates ig there's no need for custom plate for frog mini anymore

[median spade]

well maybe if you're in australia lol

but tbh

hypekeyboards.ca has same thing

[gaunt marten]

We'll probably see them be more widely available after geon venom 60 launch ngl

[median spade]

yeah a couple shops in NA already have them but it's still a custom plate technically

As I got my two frog mini 60he plates from hypekeyboards

geon also sells is own already made plate for 60he in frog mini

but only in Korea....

[gaunt marten]

Yoooo nice vid

[harsh dove]

Thanks lol

[median spade]

Cam working that $500 mic finally

[gaunt marten]

I see we all got the same issue with wind noise

HAHAHA

I use noisegate and its scuff

[median spade]

imma upload my wooting to my youtube eventually

[harsh dove]

Lmao so I was messing around testing wind noise and had my window open for that video I think

[median spade]

when i stop being lazy

[gaunt marten]

Cuz if not the wind noise is constant

[median spade]

tis fine tbh

[gaunt marten]

Same

Mine is on twitter at least

🗿

[median spade]

ambient noise gives idea and makes sound test more accurate

[harsh dove]

Oh wait nah thats my PC fans I think lol

[gaunt marten]

Lmao

[harsh dove]

I do hear the wind blowing tho too haha

Window was def open

[median spade]

window open in march

[stray tiger]

Im going to stream in about 15min rebuilding the Sirius60 HE with the new POM plate.

[median spade]

I tried some stuff with my ligthing and made it even better, but I should probably put my wooting in frog just so there is a proper one on youtube and then go back to selling it

[harsh dove]

Lol I have another vid I made with the KS20u in the Salvation but idk if I like it

[harsh dove]

Multistream or YT?

[gaunt marten]

I use a shit 300$ phone to record stuff will look clap anyways

[median spade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCn1Kj6MXYg

as this was my most recent

need to get wooting on there for all the stonks

[stray tiger]

Just youtube 4k this time. New mic hasnt arrived yet but I'm trying some new settings on the old mic

[gaunt marten]

Yall have the camera angles

Meanwhile theres me

LOL

[harsh dove]

Bro nah lmao I'm just learning, testing, messing around with stuff

[gaunt marten]

https://fxtwitter.com/AviFPS_/status/1764300874170695715 look at this ultrascuff angle

[median spade]

Well I do have an actual camera so it helps lmao

already better than 99% of sound tests on youtube

you killing it

[harsh dove]

fr lol

[gaunt marten]

I mean there's an a6400 i can hook up but cba

[median spade]

a6400 is what I use

[harsh dove]

Bros sleepin

[gaunt marten]

Fr

Maybe ill hook it up once the build is fully completed

Waiting for my 14 jades & o ring to arrive

[harsh dove]

Waiting.... lol

in peace

[gaunt marten]

Istg can nvidia broadcast stop causing bsod

this bug has been happening since one of the latest updates

[median spade]

@stray tiger

oops too early

but did you try boog75 in game btw

remember you had that sound test for it

[stray tiger]

Gotta reboot router then I can start it up

[kind helm]

i watch like 4 videos, man loves that clack

[median spade]

clack is life

wish I had recoreded and uploaded more

I owned roughly 115 different customs in 2.5 years but didn't bother to record them all

[kind helm]

115? you are hella rich

gadamn

[median spade]

bought and sold alot during peak times

you could list a keyboard and sell it in 5 seconds not even kidding

just had to be there

[kind helm]

i built like 6 keyboards before i moved, i gave them all away. boys were lining up in my room like its blackfriday

🤡

[median spade]

relatable

most i ever had physically on hand was 18 and it was indeed overwhelming

finally got rid of the box of 11 i moved to 3 different houses and they sat in closet for year and half ish

market died so got lazy to sell

[median spade]

what is raptor insert letters here

oh is that lekker stem in raptor or something

[wide kraken]

says raptor chimera so probably stem swap yeah

in the background as well

[potent wedge]

Spring raptor

[median spade]

might put my l60 stems back in my raptors

[stray tiger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgTz89_mvj4 @median spade streaming now

[median spade]

[harsh dove]

I wanna stem swap mine again but I prefer the way the stock raptors look lol

miscolored stems bothers me even if you don't see it

[median spade]

fair enough haha

[potent wedge]

Spring raptor or lekker l45???

[harsh dove]

Part of the reason I just use KS20u tbh

[gaunt marten]

harvest the magnet on l60

put em on raptor stem

[harsh dove]

Stem swapping is more for the reduced wobble than for the magnet performance

[stone arch]

does gummy o ring mount work for 60he+?

or will stabs make it not

[gaunt marten]

It will work with graveshift s o rings

[stone arch]

@gaunt marten do you know which color?

[agile grove]

module or prebuilt?

[agile grove]

depends

[stone arch]

module

[agile grove]

graveshift s o-ring 30-50a

the harder the o-ring the hard it is to take it out of the case

[gaunt marten]

I assumed he meant 60he+ as in module cuz he said of the stabs

55a works too

[stone arch]

sorry if this is a dumb question.. what does the numbers stands for

[gaunt marten]

Hardness

[stone arch]

ohhh okay

which one would you suggest

idk if it makes a diff?

[gaunt marten]

Its preference

If u wan a softer typing experience 30/35

Stiffer 50/55

[stone arch]

would it have any influence on the sound

or mainly feel

[pastel vigil]

its funny how I was immediately familiar with the hardness numbers because of skateboarding.

Looking at truck bushing and like what is considered soft there is considered hard for a gummy ring

[pearl flume]

the first one is the frankenswitch raptor with lekker stems, and the ranking shown is least to most stem wobble

[half bloom]

Doing my first Keyboard build. I decided to go for the 60HE+ module.
Currently looking into the Raptor HE switches, does anyone have experience with them?

[normal schooner]

#🪛│modding_faq may answer some of your questions

[half bloom]

Oh no

Gosh, building is so complex, so many things to take into consideration..

[normal schooner]

its not complex stack three layers screw it with screws and screw it tight

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-working-hammering-hammer-gif-14039888

[half bloom]

Wait a minute.. The Jade switches do not have the Hall Effect, right?

[glacial wind]

Magnetic jades from gateron are Hall effect switches if that’s what you mean

[half bloom]

Ah, got a little confused

Just to be sure

These are the right ones, yes?

[glacial wind]

Yeah those are wooting compatible ones

[half bloom]

Thanks sir

[gaunt marten]

i like dem jades

[half bloom]

When using the Wooting 60HE+ module, do i need a cable?
USB-A to USB-C?

[gaunt marten]

theres an included cable

[half bloom]

[gaunt marten]

poron plate foam, foam to use it caseless, silicone rings for standoff

what else

[half bloom]

OH DAMN

[half bloom]

That is super sick

🤝

I welcome myself to the club

[gaunt marten]

u can claim da role on da website

[half bloom]

Done!

[untold wigeon]

u had jades right?

[gaunt marten]

Ya i have jades

[untold wigeon]

so if i were to get jades, is there anyway i could lower the high sounds of it?

my english sucks ass

idk how to explain what i want to do

[gaunt marten]

Dampening the sound idk

[wet hazel]

Probably using a lot of foam

Or sound dampeners as Avi said

Jades are louder and clacky compared to lekkers

[gaunt marten]

Good sound dampeners ig

[half bloom]

Excuse my dumb question, but which one is the right one for the Wooting module?

[gaunt marten]

Top left

Ansi 61 keys

[half bloom]

Thanks!!

[obsidian dagger]

unless you bought iso 🤨

[half bloom]

No no

When choosing keycaps, do you have to keep anything in mind?

Beside ANSI 61 k

[gaunt marten]

profile, material

custom keycaps probs dye sub pbt

[normal schooner]

hahaha while wooting is releasing soon cool colorful take control keycaps

🙂

[remote cairn]

Hey, I've got some questions, I've never built a keyboard of my life and I'd like to order the 60HE, I've compared the price of the 60HE+ and the module, for some reason the module is more expensive and I was wondering if changing the case on a normal 60HE would be easier than building from 0 with the module?

[gaunt marten]

ig?

u dont need to install switches yourself

doesnt module+switches+keycaps cost same as board

except no case

[remote cairn]

It's more expensive

[half bloom]

Where can i read about this?

[glossy pagoda]

The module is the more premium product that comes with screw-in stabilizers and a polycarbonate switch plate, compared to the prebuilt 60HE+ that comes with plate-mounted stabilizers and a steel plate

If you buy a module and an alumze at the same time, there's a large automatic discount on the alumaze, but that is going to cost more than the prebuilt with a plastic case

[normal schooner]

this is 1 month old

[grim steppe]

I have ordered common TX AP screw-in stabilizers but received this. Is it worse for wooting 60he+?

[glossy pagoda]

Hey it's not 1 month old yet....

[normal schooner]

it is

keep with the time mark!

[glossy pagoda]

Oh snap you're right

Well in my defense, those "less than a month out" products are at the warehouse already, just need to get them added to the store 😅

[half bloom]

Do we have pictures of it yet?

[normal schooner]

maybe if you ask mark really nice

[glossy pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/spoilers-doctor-who-gif-8623491

[half bloom]

White and pink does sound tempting

[glossy pagoda]

Shhhh don't tell anyone

[gleaming crane]

:0

[half bloom]

Aha

[shrewd dragon]

damn i got my case to early

[remote cairn]

But if I buy the module, I’ll have to build the full keyboard myself right?

[normal schooner]

yes

[remote cairn]

Might not be a good idea then

Thx

[glossy pagoda]

You'll have to install the PCBA into a case, put in the switches, and add keycaps. Stabilizers come preinstalled.

[shrewd dragon]

Have u ever mounted something with little screws?

[remote cairn]

I've built a few computers ig

[shrewd dragon]

That's enough knowledge

U are over qualified

[remote cairn]

I won't have to add the foam myself or stuff like that, it comes pre installed, right?

[polar girder]

Well like “add the foam” is literally put a piece of foam in the bottom of the case

[shell parrot]

built computers but cant handle a piece of foam

[remote cairn]

Does it come with the module?

[uncut musk]

mr mark how much free food do i have to give you to put these on the store 😂

[half bloom]

Uh, would these work with the wooting mudel and jade switches?

I'm so confused by keycaps

[gaunt marten]

send link

[half bloom]

https://www.gmkkeycaps.com/product/gmk-olivia-series-cherry-custom-keycap-set/

I'm from Germany, it's so difficult to find decent Keycaps :<

[gaunt marten]

ps dats fake gmk website

[gaunt marten]

candykeys

[half bloom]

Oh

[obsidian dagger]

keygem, maxgaming

[half bloom]

Thanks guys!!

[gaunt marten]

https://candykeys.com/products/keycaps?brand=GMK

[valid flint]

You almost baited me into buying these they wouldve been perfect for my baby blue tofu

[median spade]

I mean you can still buy them

they're just clones is all

[shell parrot]

yes, the module comes with a EPDM foam

[median spade]

real set is called GMK Shoko

[valid flint]

god digely dayum if those shokos were priced at 160 in 2020 i dont even want to imagine what their price is today

[empty galleon]

hey i got the same case nice

[valid flint]

pog

you already thought about keycaps?

[empty galleon]

i have no money so still looking lol

[median spade]

still priced the same unless you look at aftermarket

[valid flint]

Yea meant aftermarket, since its not on stock anywhere

[median spade]

looks like the last 2 shokos sold for $110 and $120 aftermarket

[valid flint]

Man this keyboard loophole I found myself falling into fills my brain with dopamine. I browse the web for stuff I want to install into my keyboard -> proceed to not understand something specific and put my 5036th question into a mechkeyb discord server -> find something that looks/feels/sounds very good -> realizes the price is way above my budget or its just not available -> realize that i didnt even calculate customs into the price thats above my budget already -> cry myself to sleep

[valid flint]

eeeh could you tell me where someone could find said aftermarket

[median spade]

reddit.com/r/mechmarket

[valid flint]

thank you :)

https://youtu.be/1_bu0FUwDXI?t=737 These are the lekker L60 right?

[empty galleon]

relatable

i get the basics but nothing super specific

[valid flint]

yea

[valid flint]

These clones probably do something worse than the original right? Therefore the price. I wonder if they sound different because if not I would buy them until I get hold of a real shoko set

[solemn lynx]

just did the holee mod on my spacebar and its so much better now

no more ticking

[harsh dove]

GMK Clones are almost always PBT instead of ABS so you get a different feel and sound

[solemn lynx]

they're green so yes

[valid flint]

And PBT is thicker and would be better if I wanted it to sound thocky anyway right? So its perfect lmao

[harsh dove]

Thicness varies, thicker PBT sets usually cost more, around $100 for like 1.4-1.5mm +

Idk the thickness of GMK clones typically

Could end up being cheap and thin PBT idk I've never bought clones

[grim steppe]

Are tx clip-ins worse than screw-ins?

[harsh dove]

No

Basically the same

[grim steppe]

Okay, thanks

[solemn lynx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204008942137638923/1214230735226146877/IMG_2186.mov?ex=65f85b7e&is=65e5e67e&hm=dc7ae64594c17b5c530b910dc9d708accd1c3672e75356a2d6b6487c651cbb40& spacebar lubed with the holee mod

dont mind my shit aim aiming at the alt key

[remote cairn]

If I were to switch the switches for some gateron magnetic jade, would the wooting technology still work?

[agile grove]

yes

[valid flint]

i have no clue if there are specific stabs that sound more thocky or not

which should i get? i read that the durock v2 are good ones

[agile grove]

what model do you have?

60he, 60he+, or 60he+ module?

[valid flint]

60he+ module

[harsh dove]

Stock stabs are fine

Lube and tune

[valid flint]

but is fine enough

[harsh dove]

99% of stabs sound the same after tuning

[valid flint]

would it feel very different with durocks

oh ok

[harsh dove]

Main thing is to just make sure you don’t have any rattle or ticking

[valid flint]

thanks cam

[harsh dove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxHb6CJc9V8

Use this for reference

[harsh dove]

[Unedited]
Replaced Case foam with Polyfill
Swapped CF plate for PC plate
Removed PCB Foam/Plate Foam

Also swapped back to my TX AP Clips In (prev Screw In)
I prefer to use the M-size ring vs the S-size, as the S-size makes my PCB sit crooked in the case, even if I try to shift it, just goes back to original crooked posisition

and drives my OCD crazy

[untold wigeon]

https://youtu.be/Z3KX_le6_vQ?si=qIgg7Qocn4_szyFm&t=161

jades that sound like this i do not mind

they sound wonderful here

[median spade]

yeah that's how mine sound tbh

[untold wigeon]

how?

what mods

[median spade]

lubed top housing

and hand lube rest of switch

[untold wigeon]

nah but they are stock where i sent the vid

[median spade]

oh well it's the environment then

his desk, room, etc

weirdly he did sound test in 3 different areas kind of odd

[untold wigeon]

the stock sounded better than the lubed ones for me xD

[median spade]

well he did sound test in different areas so

[untold wigeon]

yeah

bruh idk what to do

lube lekkers

get jades

or get ks-20u

im fucked

[median spade]

well if you are wanting

then get ks20u

[untold wigeon]

yeah thock/cream

but if the jades sounds like that like in the vid im totally fine with that

[median spade]

[untold wigeon]

sounded really nice

[stray tiger]

@harsh dove how loud was the music I was playing in last nights stream?

Video got yanked for 12 music violations lol

[harsh dove]

Damn, it didn't seem that loud but yeah Youtube don't mess around

[stray tiger]

On my end it was very very low lol, like ambient background music

[harsh dove]

Yeah same

audible but low

[stray tiger]

Where as Raxx is streaming rock n roll all day long in his streams lol.

Maybe thats just a twitch advantage

[harsh dove]

Well on Twitch what you do is have the music on a separate track

so on VODs and Clips there's no music

only on the Live

[stray tiger]

Ahhh makes sense

[harsh dove]

Otherwise Twitch will get you too

yeah lol

[half bloom]

Yeah, i really like the color scheme..

I can't find any non-fake white/blue keycaps for the 60HE+ and Jade switches 😦

[valid flint]

@half bloom where did you order the jade switches if i may ask

[half bloom]

MaxGaming

61 euro in total

With shipping

[valid flint]

I wonder if its worth the upprice of 21€ compared to the lekker45

I will try the L45 first

[harsh dove]

Basically how mine sounded when I had them in my Salvation

here

[harsh dove]

very odd

[median spade]

pretty much how it was

[harsh dove]

@untold wigeon Stock module x Stock Jades in Salvation

[empty sinew]

is the salvation case sold anywhere without the pcb stuff?

[harsh dove]

Not that I know of

[empty sinew]

is pcb any good?

[median spade]

Yes?

It’s a wilba tech pcb

Best in business outside Hiney stuff

[untold wigeon]

yeah i aint spendig 300$ for that

[empty sinew]

can I find some info about what does PCB offer

because I am checking the site and there isnt any much info

[median spade]

I mean it’s a pcb

If you’re expecting features like wooting it doesn’t have that

It’s just using a good mcu, traces, etc for Mx stuff

Supports QMK/VIA

[granite blaze]

how benefitial is burger mount

[harsh dove]

lol

You must if you want that sound

[median spade]

@empty sinew https://novelkeys.com/products/wt60-c-pcb

[harsh dove]

Plus GMK keycaps

[median spade]

this is closest you'll get to specs btw

[untold wigeon]

all good lmfao

[harsh dove]

Hahaha

No clack for you then

You must pay the price for clack

[empty sinew]

thanks

going to check it out

[median spade]

but you youngins only getting into the custom side of wooting don't know how good you got it

it won't look like anything special but back in our day you had to pray if your pcb was going to be south facing and also qmk supported

[empty sinew]

does wooting pcb fit nicely in the salvation?

[median spade]

fits even better really as it's smaller

[empty sinew]

and you don't add any foam?

[median spade]

can't add foam to salvation

with the mounting style

[empty sinew]

yeah I seen it has a lot of the mounting points

[median spade]

cam did moleskin tape on his

I stopped using my 60he in it and just made it regular build

[empty sinew]

but you probably put the oring stickies on the unused mounting points right?

its a interesting case

[median spade]

no that would do nothing

the mounting points are using silicone gasket setup

[empty sinew]

oh so they don't hurt the pcb?

[median spade]

no lol

that's the whole point

it's to make a unique mounting style with tray mount stuff

[empty sinew]

maybe I'll get it for the birthday hehe

[untold wigeon]

ill just leave the keeb as is, no point trying to get the wooting to sound good

[empty sinew]

you guys have ecoat or ano?

[median spade]

Ano on mine

same with cam

[empty sinew]

you got some pics?sorry if I missed em

[harsh dove]

lmao

[untold wigeon]

is it this shit?

[empty sinew]

yep

[untold wigeon]

unavailable ofc

[empty sinew]

you can get it through salvun

https://salvun.com/

[median spade]

it's not unavailable

choose options and it shows