🔧│keyboard_modding

[static tendon]

I've really been changing up the Rapid Trigger to see what I like the most

[solemn lynx]

im trying to unscrew my wooting pcb with a manual screwdriver but i cant send help

its so airtight or smth its hard to unscrew

[static tendon]

I think this 0.25mm has been a good sweet spot though, but again it'll likely change again

[static tendon]

You turning it the right way? My module for example came off relatively easy

[solemn lynx]

im turning it counter clockwise

yea this feels so airtight i cant

[static tendon]

Hmm that is odd, perhaps it's more often geared toward the 60HE? My experience was likely different since I had the module

[solemn lynx]

yea i rlly need help cuz i dont have a phillips screwdriver

or an electrical one

[bronze grove]

Then you shouldn't be trying to opening it.

Only use a PH1 Phillips screwdriver.

[somber drum]

can someone explain to me what this message means? Its a reply to my original question enquiring whether or not the gummy o ring they were selling was compatible with my Wooting 60he V1

[untold wigeon]

has anyone hand lubed their jades? if so yall think its worth it

[paper bloom]

Most will say its better

[onyx pier]

this will fit the module?

[austere creek]

our pcb doesnt have oring cutouts

[somber drum]

dafuq, so do i have to cut the wootings pcb?

isnt that gonna destroy it

so confused rn

[bronze grove]

No cutting, no using that ring

Ask whoever you got that reply from to clarify wtf they're on about 😄

[shell crown]

Oring cutouts, have fun making them I ruined 3 of my boards when I forgot to add them to my design files

[crimson sky]

[uncut axle]

Should I remove the factory lube before hand-lubing the lekkers? I saw how to wash them, but the process seems tedious.

[shell crown]

I never wash away the lube

But for springs I do what I like to call skinny dipping

In a ziplock and mush it all well

And other parts just lube well

[uncut axle]

[shell crown]

No need to wash away unless you want to be a perfectionist

If I was gonna wash it all away I'd prolly use gasoline ngl

[bronze grove]

I'd say it depends on what you're lubing with.

205g0? Just add more as needed. Same thing.

[uncut axle]

Yes 205g0 :)
ty :D

[near barn]

does anyone know of any (possible) mods that i could add to my case to get an underglow rgb affect?

im under the impression of highly unlikely, but was wondering if it's possible

with the 60he module ofc^

[untold wigeon]

spacebar foam worth?

[bronze grove]

Nothing that wouldn't involve warranty voiding self-soldering work at least.

[shell crown]

It's possible without the soldering and damaging the PCB but it depends on the case

Depends on the case highly

If the case already is bottom transparent then it would be much easier. If not you'd need proper skill

And tools

I've done it with mice but not with keyboards yet

[harsh dove]

Good morning people

[stray tiger]

Good morning good sir

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/brad-pitt-coffee-good-morning-caffeine-need-coffee-gif-15089710

[shrewd dragon]

Im feeling so stupid doing that ngl

It's like my first day at the auto Garage and my Boss told me to get a left handed wrench

[median spade]

did you also get the blinker fluid

[shrewd dragon]

Ofc

[agile grove]

how?

not sure how else you'd get the LEDs

on top of that, even if you did get the LEDs connected somehow I doubt wootility would recognize them

[untold wigeon]

same

[shell crown]

No need to connect them to wootility....

You can get an external RGB module that you connect through artemisRGB

[shrewd dragon]

are the black and translucent o rings any different?

[shell crown]

vNope

[shrewd dragon]

thx

[shell crown]

I mean they do have some difference in material but that's barely noticeable if you use them inside

[agile grove]

black ones are foam, white ones are silicone

[shrewd dragon]

appriciate it

[dull cipher]

Hey does anyone know a good place to get custom made keycaps in the uk

[agile grove]

etsy

[shrewd dragon]

The screw next to my spacebar stabilizer won't reach that far into the alumaze case

Is it meant to be like that ? Are the middle and spacebar for different Modules?

[agile grove]

you probably didnt install the standoff

[shrewd dragon]

Wait a what

How does it look

[agile grove]

theres a brass screw/nut looking thing that comes with case that you're supposed to install there

cant install a screw into a hole that doesnt exist

[shrewd dragon]

The thing that look like nuts but with a Screw on one side

[agile grove]

it should be noted that the 60he doesnt use the middle standoff so theres no point in installing that one

[agile grove]

yes

[shrewd dragon]

It was in the package of the strip lmao I thought I wouldn't need it

Thanks my man

[agile grove]

np

just install it into the hole in the case there with your fingers

[shrewd dragon]

ther hardest part was putting that damn strap on the case ngl

[bitter valve]

Ah, shit…

Anyone actually got their stuff delivered through axlehire?

[shrewd dragon]

never heard of them

[bitter valve]

Me neither, read some stuff on Reddit, not good lol

[median spade]

never even heard of this

I've pretty much had all the shipping you can think of but seeing a new one is rare for me

[bitter valve]

Exactly… Hoping it’ll be delivered, it’s just a cable but still

Damn Wooting, just use UPS or FedEX

[shrewd dragon]

is there a trick behind isntalling a german layout enter key bcs im about the get mad and i dont wann use force

[median spade]

Wonder if it's your region

as Wooting just ships USPS for me

[bitter valve]

Nah, was USPS for the Module, I believe and for the wrist rest also

[median spade]

what is this order?

switches?

[agile grove]

speaking of the ISO enter key, you installed the switch sideways right?

[bitter valve]

But this time I decided to pick expedited, my fucking bad lol

[shrewd dragon]

ye i used th wooting starter guide

[bitter valve]

Cable

[median spade]

expedited gave me usps priority weird

Very interesting

[shrewd dragon]

its the only switch i hat do install sideways

[median spade]

as I bought the wrist rest recently

[bitter valve]

I wish😂

[median spade]

which i got the wrist rest and don't like it womp womp really lol

it's a great product just feels weird when gaming for me

[bitter valve]

I mean, better for typing, I don’t use it while gaming from time to time, depending on the game/mood lol

[median spade]

Oh yeah typing I dont' even rock it

[shrewd dragon]

the stableizers just have to much room to wiggle

[median spade]

I started floating my wrists back in 2019 as was feeling the pain in my left wrist and been much better

keeping the rsi demon at bay

[bitter valve]

Which one is that? Google search doesn’t return relevant results

[median spade]

Repetitive Strain injury

or arthritis

[bitter valve]

Oh, I just misunderstood, apologies

[median spade]

I did word it weirdly to be fair lol

[bitter valve]

Nah, brain is broken, need coffee for a jump start

Got my tx ap long pole screw-ins today

Have a feeling that I will have to fuck up my pc plate

[median spade]

Caffeine first and then all will be well

[harsh dove]

Shouldn’t have to mess with plate hopefully

[median spade]

btw @bitter valve how much quieter would you say your jades are than mine here: #🔧│keyboard_modding message

curious as only difference is you added the medical tape

[shrewd dragon]

Is there a reason im to noob to understand why this won't fit?

[bitter valve]

Is it upside down or I’m tripping?

[shrewd dragon]

ye i just laidd it down upside down

i tried it the right way tho

[median spade]

I see the issue here

you're using iso and not ansi

[shrewd dragon]

i ned help pls

[bitter valve]

Downstroke is much quieter, the upstroke was heaven with overlubed top housing, but that worn out relatively quick, so upstroke sound returned. Also somborthane removed a lot of sound. In the office, my coworker on the other side of the monitor can’t hear me type

[torn summit]

Iso = usa's keyboard with a small enter
Ansi = L shaped enter

[bitter valve]

Then it should work

Remove the switch

Try without it

[median spade]

Weird that the upstroke returned for you

[shrewd dragon]

why u guys fuckin with me so i just gotta live with no input on my enter

[median spade]

The issue of HE upstroke for me stayed fixed for the moment

also interesting that you're using 60he for work

[bitter valve]

Maybe I didn’t overlube it hahaha

[bitter valve]

It’s a nice kb😂

[shrewd dragon]

ye and the original problem i have is that my shit wont fit i have an Ansie layout i know but the cap should fit then

[median spade]

Yeah like it still has upstroke on mine of course, but not the ticking rattling noise it had before

which is why I did lube on top housing as we know

[bitter valve]

Oh, no, it’s not rattly or anything

Just sort of “pop” on the upstroke

[shrewd dragon]

im getting a headache what the fuck are u telling me

[bitter valve]

I’ll try to mod them a bit more, maybe will find the solution to solve the upstroke

[bitter valve]

Bro

[median spade]

Oh yeah the pop is still there for me too just no longer rattling

you won't fix that ever till you get silencers on the stem haha

[bitter valve]

Also, no one HAS TO help you

[bitter valve]

That’s the plan😂

[shrewd dragon]

ye i know

but does your enter key work without a switch

i dont think so, so how does that help?

[bitter valve]

See if it fit

[median spade]

real talk though silent he switches would be so nice

[bitter valve]

Ugh bro

[median spade]

At this point just give me those lol

[bitter valve]

Troubleshooting requires trying by eliminating

More factors = more possible issues

Wtf, you ask for help and then question

[shrewd dragon]

thank you for telling me its part of troubleshoot

it worked without thew cap i will try diffrent ones

[bitter valve]

Mx silent cherry stems?🤔🤔🤔

[bitter valve]

You can also try to put a different switch in that spot, they all look the same but the slight variation is possible

[shrewd dragon]

ye it happend to be the keycap itself a normal switch with the right direction fits perfectly but as soon the 90° angle sets in the keycap had issues to fit

[median spade]

LIke I get bored of silent switches quick

but would take them over the he sound we have to deal with rn

[shrewd dragon]

thanks for that and sorry for my temper wasnt trying to be an ass

[bitter valve]

Me neither, you’re good

[bitter valve]

I would probably try a different switch. You can also try to force the keycap on the switch with the correct positioning and then install it on the plate, see if it works that way

[wispy thistle]

what switch pads do i use the kbdfans hotswappable ones? wanted the poron switch pads

[median spade]

they don't really make a huge difference tbh

[bitter valve]

Was about to say

[median spade]

I have some on hand when i was going for meme foam build thing

put them on my 60he and literally could not tell a difference

sound test i made too confirms that

[wispy thistle]

the switch pads dont?

[bitter valve]

I got these tho

[median spade]

yeah

[wispy thistle]

gothca thanks

[median spade]

oh im talking about teh switch pads on pcb ginox

but yeah they didn't really do anything

[bitter valve]

Ah, either way, mine made no difference also

[wispy thistle]

do i need to do band aid mod on screw in tx ap stabs?

[bitter valve]

No

[wispy thistle]

ok thanks just need to lube and wirebalance them? i dont evne know what that means lol but ill look it up

[median spade]

if anything absolutely do not band aid mod or holee mod them

the tolerances are so tight youll just mess it up

balance wires if needed and lube

[wispy thistle]

thanks

@median spade what abnout using the poron pad that comes with a the module if im going for a deeper sound>

or that doesnt really make a diff either

[untold wigeon]

keycaps orings worth using

[median spade]

yeah the pcb foam works

not as much as on mx stuff but it helps

[wispy thistle]

is it dangerous? i heard something about messing up ur pcb idk

[bitter valve]

Mushy?

[median spade]

the one that comes with the moedule?

it just sits a top the pcb

[bitter valve]

Nothing is too dangerous with kb, just try to avoid using too much force

[untold wigeon]

idk, im wondering if it would be worth using since i have a pack of them sitting on a shelf haha

[bitter valve]

Oh, I read as a statement, not a question lol

Personally, don’t like the feel that they add

[wispy thistle]

ok thank you

any difference between bag lubing springs with grease or donut dipping springs with same lube i use for swithces?

[waxen bane]

Is it easy to change switch springs?

I’m satisfied with my jades but if it’s not that much of a hassle I would like to swap to heavier springs bc they are a tad light

[tardy cove]

It's easy imo just time consuming. You have to open each spring individually and swap them out

A good time to lube switches and add films if you have interest in doing so

It helps to have a good switch opener as well. They all aren't made equal in my experience

[median spade]

your time is the only difference

[wispy thistle]

bag lubing is faster?

yea of course it will be

nvm lol

[tardy cove]

Ya quit a bit faster

[wispy thistle]

thanks

[tardy cove]

You also have to use a thinner lube when bad lubing

Just an fyi

[wispy thistle]

yea

i dont have it so i would have to buy it

[tardy cove]

Cuz to viscus of a lube won't spread through the bag

[wispy thistle]

yea i would i have to buy seperate lube

[tardy cove]

Ya alot of people really like super lube. It's cheap and works good

[wispy thistle]

ok thanks

[median spade]

super lube on amazon

oh yeah other person said it lol

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UKUHXK/

thi sis what i use

[tardy cove]

I think I got mine at like ace hardware for something in my shop

And just had it in hand haha

[wispy thistle]

ty

[waxen bane]

For what? What’s its application

I actually have that laying around as well

[tardy cove]

Bag lubing springs instead of doesn't dipping each spring

Both work good just bag lubing requires a thinner lube such as super lube

That's what brought it up haha

[waxen bane]

It says high viscosity though

[tardy cove]

Donut dipping*

[waxen bane]

So im hesitant on using it

[tardy cove]

Ahh maybe that's the incorrect link I didn't click it

[waxen bane]

I have a small tube

[tardy cove]

It should be thin like an oil

[waxen bane]

Idk if it’s the right one I’ll just try it

[tardy cove]

The two viscositys I'm used to are thin and clear like an oil. And white and creamy like thin marshmallow fluff

You have to use one that is similar in consistency to olive oil or it won't spread in the bag very well and leave an uneven coating on your springs

There is also everything in-between for viscosity and many different brands with different offerings but use your best judgment

Also food for thought krytox offers 105 which is good for bag lubing. A little more expensive and similar results to super lube. But a little more consistent and thicker if you are worried about lube being to thin. For what it's worth anyway haha

[median spade]

I like 106 myself or 107 even depending

just feel like 105 overall too thin

especially for these HE springs which are crunch city

[tardy cove]

Haha fair! It's nice to be able to take those incremental steps in consistency though. I'm not so sure super lube offers those different viscosities

And atleast the super lube I have is even thinner than 105

[weak basin]

Hey guys, I'm trying to lube my switches, but when i close them, they keep on getting stuck so i cant move the stim, anyone know why?

[harsh dove]

SuperLube does offer different viscosities, ranging from ISO 10 - 680

Most people end up buying the Multipurpose ISO 100-150

[tardy cove]

Good to know! Like I said that was just the one I had on hand from the hardware store haha. The only ones I've ever looked for specific viscosity was in krytox or tribosys

[median spade]

cst is the rating you want to look at more

as it's sthe viscosity one

but they really only share the cst on the silicone for some reason and not the pfte

[harsh dove]

Yeah idk why

So I just went with the iso rating

[tardy cove]

Random side note. What is people opinion on krytox xht-bdz for stab wires?

[harsh dove]

There

[tardy cove]

Ah good food grade. I was worried about eating my lube like past habit

Paste*

[quiet bay]

are you making sure the stem is facing the right way when u close them?

[weak basin]

yeah.....

maybe

i've watched some videos about it and tried to follow them.

[weak basin]

do you have any ideas why?

[bronze grove]

Like he asked. Are you sure you're putting them back together in the same orientation as they were, when you opened them

[weak basin]

yes

wait

i found out why, thank you :?

🙂

[quiet bay]

👍

mb

was eating

[red flame]

Is it worth lubing new L45s?

[quiet bay]

Hand lubing is always better than factory lube

[red flame]

So just go over it?

The factory lube

[quiet bay]

that's what I did

no problems

[polar girder]

Same

[stray tiger]

same

[red flame]

Also the pc switch plate comes with a silicone and foam pad do I use both or choose one?

[bronze grove]

Both

[red flame]

Okay 🙂

If im lubing should i try to do it all at once or is it okay if i let the switches out in the open for the night

It's getting pretty late 😴

[median spade]

they will die if they're out in the open

but you will be fine of course

[quiet bay]

😱

[quiet bay]

it can't fit both so u gotta choose one xd

[red flame]

Haha

I guessed

Which one would you choose tho

[quiet bay]

foam

I like foamy sounds

also cause silicone doesn't work with gummy o ring mount

too stiff

[untold wigeon]

if i get a custom coiled cable does it need to be anything that has to check inorder for the module to work as it should?

ik type c to type a

but like any specific things i need to consider?

[quiet bay]

at most 6ft long

past that it might cause some issues

[red flame]

Do you lube one side of the spring or both?

[bitter valve]

Only official wooting is guaranteed to work tho

You might see weird stuff with outside cables

They also might work fine🤷🏻‍♂️

[harsh dove]

Also have to keep in mind that a coiled cable adds more resistance and is typically longer than what’s stated because then don’t include the length of the coil if it were to be unwound

Think of it like your intestines in your body, way longer when stretched out

Plus straight cables are better anyway

https://tenor.com/view/change-my-mind-meme-gif-23310141

[bitter valve]

Coil goes brrrr

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/fake-news-point-trump-false-not-true-gif-17803737

[median spade]

tbh not sure how anyone is even using the poron with gummy oring

I don't use ti but i tried for fun and literally can't get the oring to work with it

[tame vessel]

I've only had that issue with the silicon since there's no give to it

[bitter valve]

Yeah, no issue with poron on mine either

[shell crown]

Coils basically limit themselves

[bitter valve]

Wym?

[shell crown]

Magnetic field generates current too

So look

Current generates magnetic field which generates current in the opposite direction sometimes

And they heat up also, which wastes eneergy

[bitter valve]

Oh, yeah, but from the kb perspective, I don’t think we see affect of that

[pastel vigil]

I'm super new to this, just wondering if these keycaps would fit on a 60HE+? https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-doubleshot-basin

[quiet bay]

yes they would

[sweet shard]

anyone here mod their stabs on 60he+ module?

wondering if i can use durock screw ins in replace of the stock ones

[pastel vigil]

Thank you. Found a local seller who has 2 new boxes of them, selling each for $40 so figured it's a good deal to get one to dabble with modding.

[stray tiger]

Yes you can but it wouldnt be much of a change

[sweet shard]

ahh i see

[sweet shard]

thock father please tell me ur ways for making my keeb more thocky

[stray tiger]

Lots of ways, I would start by readding the https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[sweet shard]

thank u thock father

[static tendon]

Is Rapid Trigger customizable for separate keys? For example can I make only my F key be 0.15mm rapid trigger while all the other keys have 0.30mm Rapid Trigger?

[harsh dove]

I’d honestly say the stock screw ins are better than durocks

[zenith yoke]

yea

[static tendon]

I didn’t see the option, I did see you can customize the actuation points but not the rapid trigger function specifically. Any idea how to do that?

[harsh dove]

Set per key rapid trigger

And set the actuation per key

[bitter valve]

Work pc, so I can’t take a screenshot lol

[harsh dove]

^^

[static tendon]

Yeah but when doing this, it just disables rapid trigger entirely on the keys that aren’t selected

[harsh dove]

Right

Cause you have to set it per key

[bitter valve]

Yeah, will have to specify for every key

Click the key - set the value

[zenith yoke]

it's tedious but that's what u have to do

[static tendon]

I guess when trying, I wasn’t able to set it customized to this extent. It just forces me to use 1 rapid trigger setting. So if I chose like 0.15mm rapid trigger. The other keys wouldn’t have rapid trigger and it wouldn’t give me the option to set it individually to each key if that makes unless I am still misunderstanding here

I’ll dig around again to make sure though

[zenith yoke]

can you show us a video rq

[static tendon]

Yeah lemme try getting something here

[zenith yoke]

alright

[median spade]

Yeah no clue, wasn't going to bother with how much pressure it wanted to take if it was even going to work

I don't like poron foam anyways so no love lost

[zenith yoke]

I found a Crack in my pc plate :<

[agile grove]

mine straight up has a chip in it

[zenith yoke]

gg

LOL

[agile grove]

that’s my fault tho

[median spade]

Yeah not a big deal really

[zenith yoke]

should I go for a custom plate from kbd?

[median spade]

I will say the pc that wooting chose to use is way different than any other pc iv'e experienced

[agile grove]

nah

[zenith yoke]

It's alot more fragile

[agile grove]

you won’t notice it ever

[zenith yoke]

true

[median spade]

Seems more brittle and and flimsy to me as well

also my switches sound a lot more loose on it as i ahve like 5 different plates to compare against it

[zenith yoke]

I gotta redo my stand after only a month

[median spade]

they clip in the easiest on the pc and come out the easiest so it checks out really

[zenith yoke]

stock lube on the stands isn't bad

but it isn't great

stabs*

[harsh dove]

My black plate feels a lot tighter around the switches than my white one

[median spade]

interesting

[zenith yoke]

what switches u runnin?

[median spade]

I"m just using my black pom from hypekeyboards and it's

[harsh dove]

Jades

[median spade]

plate was so tight i had to swap back to stock stabs actually

[zenith yoke]

bro I've literally broken all my clips on the stupid jades

I hate how tight it is

[harsh dove]

I get my CF plate tomorrow , then just gotta wait for the Black POM, Black FR4 and Alu plates

[zenith yoke]

missing the little clip on all the tops

[agile grove]

I’ve only broken one clip on one lekker

how tf you break all 61

[bitter valve]

I broke three lol

[zenith yoke]

jade is unbelievable soft

[median spade]

Haven't broken one yet tbh

[zenith yoke]

I'm just like that

[median spade]

I also have the really nice wuque studio switch puller however

[harsh dove]

I’ve only broken one lekker

[median spade]

so that's probably it

[zenith yoke]

I have a decent puller

[median spade]

get this bad boy

[harsh dove]

I broke a lekker cause it was my fault lol

[agile grove]

I broke mine trying to push the clip back out

[median spade]

best switch puller by a country mile

[harsh dove]

Yeah I bent the clip backwards

[median spade]

all the others suck tbh

[zenith yoke]

this shit is ass

[median spade]

those were the best we had for a while

[agile grove]

same one I have

[median spade]

then wuque studio came around and now they are bad

[agile grove]

you gotta mess around with it until it’s as straight as possible

[zenith yoke]

I just said fuck it and ripped it all out whether or not it wanted to come out or not LOL

I got tired of patiently taking each out

[median spade]

did you take the pcb off first?

[agile grove]

also make sure to apply as little force as possible to push the clips in, otherwise you’re gonna break it

[zenith yoke]

yeah

[median spade]

word was just making sure

[median spade]

back in 2022 when i got wooting and they didn't have many videos on it

[zenith yoke]

Bing chillin rn

[median spade]

I got arthritis pulling the switches out from the pcb

[zenith yoke]

I'm rn redoing the stabs

[median spade]

because they hadn't done video about taking off the pcb before pulling switches lmao

[zenith yoke]

Lmao

[median spade]

also is the physical size of the wooting pcb like smaller or something? I noticed compared to another 60% pcb i have it takes up less sapce in the tofu

[zenith yoke]

Yeah it is

I have the redux tho

so it's fine

[agile grove]

my biggest issue when pulling switches is that the bottom clip is so much tighter than the top one making it really easy to snap it

[zenith yoke]

EXACTLY

THATS MY ISSUE

[median spade]

it do be like that

[agile grove]

I felt like the switches are closer together

[zenith yoke]

also is it me or is it that the pcb looks like it's covered in oil

stains

[static tendon]

Oops hold up

[zenith yoke]

all good dw

[agile grove]

probably the water resistant layer

[zenith yoke]

o fr?

I didn't even know thay

[agile grove]

either that or you got lube all over your PCB

[static tendon]

@zenith yoke

[median spade]

yeah that part is standard and to mx spec

[static tendon]

I really hope this shows it enough to understand. Anything longer and I can’t send the video

[zenith yoke]

never

[median spade]

but the pcb itself is just physically smaller

[zenith yoke]

wtf

[static tendon]

When I try customizing the rapid trigger, it will always set everything to the same rapid trigger setting. I can’t do individual keys and have different rapid triggers set all across the board

[zenith yoke]

lemma download it rq

my phone doesn't display it properly

I see the issue

don't select all

since u click on select all its confusing it

just select specific keys instead of clicking on select all

[static tendon]

Alright I tried this method as well but no matter what, it will always default the rapid trigger to the last setting I chose. Like it doesn’t allow me to do 0.15mm on my f key and some other keys I can’t do like 0.30mm or something. It will always choose my last rapid trigger being 0.30mm in this case even when individually selecting the keys without pressing “select all” or “deselect all”

[stray tiger]

https://help.wooting.io/article/102-how-to-set-up-rapid-trigger

[static tendon]

I can set custom actuation points but not custom rapid trigger

[zenith yoke]

interesting

I works try it out on my keyboard but it's disassembled rn

lol

would*

[agile grove]

I think you guys are a little confused

[static tendon]

Thanks for the link but when doing this method, it will just disable rapid trigger on the keys not selected. I’m trying to have different rapid trigger settings for specific keys

[agile grove]

he’s asking if you can adjust RT sensitivity per key, which tmk you cannot

[static tendon]

I want rapid trigger on all my keys at all times but specifically the f key to be 0.15mm rapid trigger while other keys may be like 0.30mm rapid trigger @stray tiger

[static tendon]

No worries. Previously I thought I made it work as well but then I realized it just disabled the rapid trigger entirely on the keys I didn’t select which I don’t want this

[zenith yoke]

I see

[static tendon]

If it’s not a feature added now, I’m sure it’s something that may be added in the future

[zenith yoke]

ye most likely

just curious have u tried saving it before changing the other keys

[static tendon]

Yes I have done this as well

[stray tiger]

Im not sure what youre asking. Changing some keys to .15 and some to .30mm you set the global range to .3 and then manually set the ones you want to .15

[static tendon]

To confirm this isn’t the actuation points I’m referring to, is this what you initially meant?

[stray tiger]

For example, my default is 1.2 for all keys and then I have .1 on WASD and 2.5-4.0 on other keys

[static tendon]

Right right, I have custom actuations like my Ctrl is 2.0mm while my others are like 0.3mm actuation but in terms of rapid trigger, you can’t individually set custom rapid trigger settings for individual keys

[zenith yoke]

guys should I use dielectric greese on the metal pole or krytox

I have either

[static tendon]

Once rapid trigger is set at 0.15mm or something, all other keys with rapid trigger will have the exact same setting of 0.15mm. I can’t set for example 0.30mm on individual keys

[stray tiger]

I think youre confused by what rapid trigger is. Rapid Trigger off means thats there is only a single actuation point for upstroke and downstroke. Rapid trigger on means you can customize the upstroke and downstroke

[agile grove]

dielectric for wires, 205g0 for housing and stems

[static tendon]

Correct, so in my particular case I wanted to do 0.15mm rapid trigger on only my “f” key while all others keys would be 0.30mm

But when setting this rapid trigger setting, it forces me to use 1 rapid trigger setting for all keys. I don’t want to disable rapid trigger at all in this specific case

Sorry for the explanation it’s quite hard to explain. It would be easier over a screen share or something. I can’t fully record it either since the video is too long to send here

[static tendon]

That’s why Luigi commented this here as well

[stray tiger]

Again I think your understanding of rapid trigger is a bit off. There is no such thing as .15 rapid trigger. There is only .15 actuation but if rapid trigger is on then you can change how much you need to release the key to deactivate it. Without rapid trigger, you cant change that.

[static tendon]

I appreciate you looking into this with me but I’m trying to go step beyond just having rapid trigger enabled and have these on customized keys. If there’s ever a time I can screen share it or something I’d be happy to show it more in detail. Perhaps I’m also misunderstanding something here but regardless I appreciate your help

[stray tiger]

The quickest resolution would be to open a thread here https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1019755933959733258 if rapid trigger isnt working correctly for you.

[static tendon]

Sounds good

[stray tiger]

Based on what you are asking (set .3 actuation for all keys and set .15 actuation for F key) that is entirely possible to do with rapid trigger

[harsh dove]

I think there’s a misunderstanding here from Kosmos perspective

[static tendon]

Yeah for example I’m not trying to do this setting here

[harsh dove]

@static tendon you’re basically trying to change the rapid trigger sensitivity to be different sensitivities on different switches

[static tendon]

Exactly yeah

[harsh dove]

Which is not possible

[stray tiger]

Rapid Trigger Off = Whatever is set under "Set actuation point" is the same for all keys for both the up and down stroke.
Rapid Trigger On = Whatever is set under "Set actuation point" is the same for all keys for both the up and down stroke UNLESS you make a change to the sensitivity settings under "Rapid Trigger"
Set per key rapid trigger = You can change the sensitivity level of the up and down stroke separately for each key or just certain keys. Any key you don't set gets the global sensitivity applied.

[harsh dove]

All that sensitivity setting is doing is changing the point at which the key deactivates by how much you release it

It’s not changing actuation

You set the actuation per key yourself

The sensitivity is how much you release that key until it deactivates

[shell crown]

Wait what

[harsh dove]

You cannot set different sensitivities per key to my knowledge

[static tendon]

Might be a bit delayed on replying here. I think my salvation case arrived 🤯

[zenith yoke]

W

[zenith yoke]

?

[shell crown]

My brain is cursed nvm

[zenith yoke]

Bro I just took out one of the stabs and it's bone dry

[zenith yoke]

lmao what were u thinking

[agile grove]

rough

[shell crown]

Okay look, I saw stabs on pcb

And I was like wtf

[zenith yoke]

Oh

LOL

it's screw in

not plate mounted

I have the moudle 60he+

no the original 60he

[agile grove]

@zenith yoke do you happen to have a thin paint brush?

[zenith yoke]

I got a glouris lube brush

[agile grove]

even better would be a syringe

[zenith yoke]

I wish

I already took everything apart

dw

[agile grove]

i’m assuming that’s pretty thin?

[zenith yoke]

I'm doing second to last stab

[zenith yoke]

yea

[agile grove]

because if so you can dip the brush in the dielectric grease and apply some onto the stab wire after assembling

[zenith yoke]

trye

lemma take a picture of how much grease I put

lol

camera doesn't do justice but it's a decent amount

[agile grove]

you put it too far up the wire

you’re supposed to end before the bend

[zenith yoke]

people say u cover after the bend

Idk

I watched several ytbers

[agile grove]

also while that looks like enough, in my experience it’s still gonna rattle

[zenith yoke]

should I clean the wooting pcb

[harsh dove]

Alexotos stab lubing guide is the only one that matters

[zenith yoke]

there's a tiny bit of lube on it

lol

[harsh dove]

https://youtu.be/vxHb6CJc9V8?si=FBLQ3DLUuvZ8HdmN

Any other video is wrong

lol

[zenith yoke]

oh well

ima leave it be

[zenith yoke]

yoooo

WW

[static tendon]

It’s here 🥹

[zenith yoke]

i would love a salvation

[static tendon]

It’s real nice so far. I’m not a fan of this texture the white has tbh but I do love the look and everything else including the white color

[zenith yoke]

@harsh dovewould u like a sound test?

[static tendon]

It feels slightly texturized

[zenith yoke]

i just finished

[static tendon]

The difference in color between concrete white and salvations textured e white

[harsh dove]

Sure

[harsh dove]

The e coat white is textured

[zenith yoke]

lemma just finish washing my hands

[static tendon]

I know, I am aware of that but white was a requirement for me. But I gotta admit I do like the texture of the anodizing of the other colors

I do love it so far 🤯

I have to assemble everything here as well

[harsh dove]

Yeah it’s great

[static tendon]

Now we both have Alumaze60 and salvations 😂

[quiet bay]

I want a white salvation 🤤

[harsh dove]

I’m bout to have a tofu too

[zenith yoke]

don't mind me

I'm in my bathroom cuz my room is too loud LOL

[untold wigeon]

any mods?

[zenith yoke]

nope

i just relubed the switch and had the foam gasket instead of the rubber

[static tendon]

Hey @harsh dove did you use the black screws for these?

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[static tendon]

It looks sick

[zenith yoke]

niceee

i just dropped a new top play on osu lol

redoing the stabs feels so nice

[static tendon]

Fully built

@harsh dove and @median spade ^

[zenith yoke]

sheesh

clean asf

[static tendon]

It does look cleannnn

Here’s with RGB lighting

[halcyon sparrow]

Does anyone know if ks20us come prelubed?

[agile grove]

they do

hand lubing will always be better however

[halcyon sparrow]

Oh thank god

[halcyon sparrow]

I'll eventually try it but I'm a little worried enough lubing my stabs. My wooting is my first custom keyboard so I'm learning all the ins and outs with you guys

[potent wedge]

Which stabs model is good for wooting60HE ?

[median spade]

that looks great

[stray tiger]

Stock stabs

[tame vessel]

Did a layer of painter's tape and moleskin, digging the sound. This also has jades with L60 springs, friction mount, pc plate with poron foam, tofu60 redux w/ weight and the the foam the tofu comes with.

Recorded with a samson q2u through obs

[stray tiger]

Sounding good!

[tame vessel]

Thanks! I'm not really sure what else I could do to change things at this point, but I'm digging this sound so I think I'll stick with this until another interesting mod comes up

[median spade]

[shrewd hatch]

Anyone know if theres a way to mod the wooting keycaps to make them non-transpart? some sort of way to cover the light shining through?

[stray tiger]

Could probably paint the inside, use a small piece of eletrical tape, permanent marker, etc

[agile grove]

it should be noted that this won’t show up on the outside and will just make them effectively blank keycaps

the legends will be barely readable

[median spade]

Yeah will probably be more worthwhile to just buy some new caps

[zenith yoke]

god damn

love how it sounds

gs

[tame vessel]

Thanks 😄

[zenith yoke]

curious where did you buy the l60 srpings?

lowkey needa mod it the way u did

LOL

[tame vessel]

Oh, I ended up buying just the wooting as a whole earlier on so I just popped open the lekkers that it came with to get the springs.

[zenith yoke]

ooooo

[tame vessel]

I did bag lube the springs, but besides that the jades seemed fine with the factory lubing so I didn't touch that

[zenith yoke]

curious can you show me a video of the mods you did?

id love to do the same

[tame vessel]

Just like which ones in general? There are a few videos up already. To list the things I did in order it was:

• Gateron Jade Switches, swapping the springs for the standard l60 springs
• Tape mod with one layer of painter's tape and one of moleskin tape
• Friction mount
• PC Plate and the foam that came with it from wooting
• Tofu 60 redux w/ weight and the foam that came with it.

They can actually be found in the modding FAQ for the most part. I don't quite have the setup to record a video properly

[zenith yoke]

the tape and friction mount

[zenith yoke]

all good

[tame vessel]

Honestly, it's all a lot easier than it seems. I think the one thing I realized with keyboard modding after doing it is everything outside of messing with switches is pretty easy to do.

[zenith yoke]

yeah switches are kinda annoying

lol

[tame vessel]

Like tape mod is just putting tape on the back of the PCB. The friction mount is just finding the right o-ring to and wrapping it around the space between the switch plate and the pcb to have a bit of rubber to rub up against the case.

[zenith yoke]

ahhh

oh and u put both the wooting and tofu foam in?

[tame vessel]

Just the tofu foam

[zenith yoke]

lowkey gonna have to order some things now

[tame vessel]

There's a video in the FAQ that has the science, but basically thin foam = thock and thick foam = clack

[zenith yoke]

oo isee

[tame vessel]

I also used GMK key caps, but I honestly don't know how much that impacts things. I just did it for aesthetics.

[zenith yoke]

i used hyperx pudding keycaps lol

i had them laying around

rgb through them is amazing

[tame vessel]

Oh, the one dumb thing I did was use a small amount of white tack in the space bar to make it sound less hollow

[zenith yoke]

thats not dumb

[tame vessel]

Pudding keycaps are tempting, and the wooting RGB is pretty slick

[zenith yoke]

thats actually pretty good

[tame vessel]

Oh just dumb in like simple I guess. I just had some laying around and I was not keen on the spacebar foam prices xD

[zenith yoke]

Lmao

[median spade]

Quite a lot actually

Especially on space bar

[tame vessel]

Oh, interesting. I'll have to swap them around with the default at some point just to see.

[zenith yoke]

Pudding

[tame vessel]

Yeah that looks good

Wooting does have good LED software if that's the best way to refer to it? The ripple effect of button presses scratches the brain itch

[static tendon]

I can definitely agree with that. I got my first GMK set like 3 weeks ago and it made a huge difference to the space bar sound

[near barn]

the case itself is transparent(for the most part), it's a tofu60

[median spade]

GMK space bars the goat

[static tendon]

They are, they have this really nice pop to it

[static tendon]

Wilba Tech Salvation type test

[novel yoke]

how big of a difference is the hand lube vs new ffactory lube?

[untold wigeon]

Hand lube sounds better

That all I know

[gleaming crane]

I’m sorry but I’m just now hearing abt the moleskin mod, can anyone explain what it does, is it any better than painters tape?

[shell crown]

Putting led strip in the bottom, just so you know it voids warranty for the case

[bronze grove]

You're forgetting something. How to power and control said LED strip

[near barn]

this^

unless there is a way and has been done before, i'd love a link to said strip

[shell crown]

I've done my ones with custom pcb micros inside mice

Not my ones but have done it

You can get an usb c breakout board

Tho you won't really get controls over the lighty

Ill do a custom mod on classic plastic wooting case for underglow and custom paintjob

Will let you know how it goes, waiting for Nyumi to send me the case

[tawdry tree]

It’s thicker than painter’s tape. I presume 3 layers of painter’s sounds similar to moleskin.

[bleak ginkgo]

is it worth to lube magnetic jades?

[tawdry tree]

It is if you mind the loud upstroke. If not, I wouldn’t say it’s worth it but it depends how much you value your time of course. 😂

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-goodmorning-morning-good-morning-cat-goodmorning-cat-gif-7884458409206722834

[lapis stump]

yes for me, sounds more consistent a bit deeper

[wet hazel]

If anyone is interested another time sales for Jades on Ali

[bleak ginkgo]

does using an alu case make the sound diff?

[strange blaze]

Oh fuck yeah i cant wait to lube them idk why but it annoys me so much lmao

[glacial wind]

that's pretty tempting

I don't really need new switches but $35 for 70 switches is a good deal

[untold wigeon]

for guys that have tofu redux, do you use any kind of foam in the case or just the brass weight?

[wet hazel]

110 switches cost like 70 on Gateron's website so even for 2HE it's a good deal

[polar girder]

Yes

Aluminum and plastic sound different

[glacial wind]

yeah super tempting price. I wish I knew how these compared to lekker v2. I do need to pick up some switches for 80he eventually

hrm to go jades or not to go, that is the question

[median spade]

it's not the real jade experience unles you pay $1/switch /s

if lekker v2 are going to just be ks20u then cam has compared the two

[glacial wind]

yeah we don't know anything about the lekker v2 though is the thing - people were just guessing ks20u but there's nothing saying that or not

[median spade]

either way jades for $35 easily clap

best swtiches overall right now imo after trying evreything but ks20u

[glacial wind]

would be $50 for 90 needed for 80he, but yeah still cheap

[harsh dove]

If you’re not super keen on having Jades, I’d wait bro

[glacial wind]

i should have applied for the mod position when asked just so I could get the internal nda to plan my 80he options better lol

[stray tiger]

Its not ks20u

[lapis stump]

I use the wooting case foam, I have an acrylic with the brass weight and it does sounds too hollowish wihtout any foam, tape mod can help too if you dont want to do that

[harsh dove]

I’ll plan for you

lol

[glacial wind]

yeah it's just $20 difference in the end, I must as well wait and see how lekker v2 turn out

[harsh dove]

Yeah, I’d just wait

When Wooting drops some new heat…

https://tenor.com/view/here-take-my-money-take-my-money-pay-the-man-pay-it-now-just-pay-the-money-gif-23950346

[median spade]

Why is mansen name white now and he gone

[harsh dove]

He’s doing something

[agile grove]

according to tony he's taking a break

who else will answer the same exact question 14 times within 8 minutes now?

[glacial wind]

he's taking the next step towards progressing the church of the white 80he zinc alloy

making his name white is part of the process. excellent commitment

[harsh dove]

[polar girder]

Is moleskin on the back of the PCB the new wave? Lol

[agile grove]

define "new"

for like the past few months

[polar girder]

Well like it just seems like it’s all the rage rn lol

I know it’s not actually new

“New”

[untold wigeon]

i have the foam from the module i could use and ive also done 3 layers of tape mod

[harsh dove]

I mean I did it like back in October or something

I think I’m one of the few to do it here but it’s not new

[polar girder]

Why everyone trying to flex how long they’ve had it lol

Is it sweet?

[harsh dove]

Idk I just prefer it

[polar girder]

You’re using it rn?

[harsh dove]

Gotta be an OG bro

[polar girder]

Ok cool kid

Lolol

[harsh dove]

Yeah I’m using it on my regular 60HE and the module

[harsh dove]

Only the coolest

https://tenor.com/view/the-breakfast-club-brian-johnson-anthony-michael-hall-cool-sunglasses-gif-4110995

[polar girder]

Time to get some moleskin I guess lol

[harsh dove]

Nah bro if you didn’t do it first , not cool anymore

I don’t make the rules

[harsh dove]

I do advise getting the Dr Scholls one cause it’s wider and covers the width of the PCB so it’s easier to cut/less cutting required

[tame vessel]

Yeah, I followed that advice and it made it so convenient

[median spade]

Understandable and why I stopped helping in another server i frequent

[harsh dove]

Just gotta get creative in your responses

[median spade]

I just said I won't spoonfeed anymore and google exists

these were more simple questions than in depth keyboard modding

or not obscure

[harsh dove]

Yeah lol fair

I get on my own friends and family for not looking something up when they easily could instead of asking me

I’m like you know we all have smart phones right?

And opposable thumbs

[agile grove]

yeah people are just allergic to using google or discord's search feature before asking questions

[harsh dove]

I’d still say a lot of the keyboard modding questions are Google friendly

Most questions are about application tho, I.e. how do I apply such and such

[stray tiger]

If there are constant questions not addressed in the FAQ let me know and Ill gladly update it

@harsh dove if youre around this evening I want to test simulcasting to youtube and twitch at the same time and setting volume levels on mic #3. I think thats the last hurdle

[tame vessel]

I think it's also how intimidating keyboard modding seems at first before realizing it's really just a lot of slapping X on Y and seeing what happens.

[stray tiger]

Now youre getting it.

[tame vessel]

For example, thinking about friction mounting and being like "Oh, this must be a super special O-ring fitted to the PCB" to being like "This is literally a wholesale O-ring that was just ripped off from some other use and slapped on"

[median spade]

just like moutning systems in the custom scene

oh this is poron foam

now lets mnake strips and isolate the plate with it

[tame vessel]

Yeah, like it's all just really janky stuff really except when you mess around with switches

Like bandaid mod? Actually just snipping up some bandaids to put down because they're sticky and can cushion xD

[median spade]

too be fair a lot has changed since the days these all really became popular

now you can go on amazon and get all that you need

before it was only if local vendors had and even then

or just kbdfans in china but then wait 20 years for shipping and it to get to you

[polar girder]

Got it. Thanks.

[stray tiger]

yes but some stuff that I used to be able to get on Amazon is nowhere to be found and I blame keyboard enthusiasts lol

[median spade]

also true

[harsh dove]

Alright I got you when I get home

[median spade]

at least it's not as bad as 2020-2021 when one video was made and then everything would be sold out for weeks

[thick mural]

i used to work on service desk as a network infrastructure engineer and i sat next to a guy who never googled anything and just asked me everything

[median spade]

within minutes

[harsh dove]

Yeah no problem , lmk how you like it

[thick mural]

literally the worst

[stray tiger]

Superlube nlgi 0 for example I cant even find it on Amazon now

[median spade]

I've wondered about that

it absolutely just disappeared

makes me wonder if it's a production reason

[stray tiger]

Nope can still get it from their site or from other stores that arent online

[median spade]

hmmm interesting

wasn't it basically a budget 205g0

or that's waht people used it for

[stray tiger]

Thats what i used it for before I started mixing nlgi 2 and oil

Trying to play some Last Epoch on my lunch and servers are taking a shit.

[harsh dove]

Damn

I get off work early

I wanna go home and play

What class you make?

[stray tiger]

You picked it up?

[harsh dove]

Yessir

[stray tiger]

I went Marksman since I loved Bladedancer in pre-release but Marksman isnt as good

[harsh dove]

Haha yeah I’m a Rogue in any game that lets me

I went Falconer

Been loving it

[stray tiger]

add Tirade when you get in and friend it up

Just wanted to log in and respec my skills. Finally just got in

[harsh dove]

Will definitely do!

Just hit Lv 52 last night

[stray tiger]

Oh sweet Im 50 so we are close. Ill get to 52 before you get off work

[harsh dove]

Sweet

[harsh dove]

People were getting mad and said they only care about US Central

And I’m over here laughin in Colorado

[stray tiger]

That would explain it. I feel like I should have played offline since launch

[harsh dove]

Right yeah but online is worth it

[stray tiger]

Just watched a hardcore streamer die at 79 like just now lol

Zizaran

[harsh dove]

lol I watched Wudijo die so many times

He finally got to 100 last night

[stray tiger]

Oh nice, just like d4

[harsh dove]

Yeah lol

[stray tiger]

I normally love the Archetype stuff but these ones arent doing it for me

[harsh dove]

Uh wot

[stray tiger]

Yeah cant even log in, so maybe I wont be 52 haha

[harsh dove]

Ohhhh

I see it

[harsh dove]

Yeah peeps complaining in their discord

I’d just keep trying

Usually ends of working

[harsh dove]

It’s a Cthulu key

I don’t like it

[agile grove]

why does it look like its made of really scratchy carpet

[harsh dove]

Like felt almost

[stray tiger]

Thats what I love about the caps, but this fluffy version is meh

[harsh dove]

Yeah Cthulu is cool

But that material is not

Makes me feel itchy

[harsh dove]

Lmao they put a 30min slowmode in their discord general chat

[agile grove]

thats tough

[harsh dove]

Lmao right

People in there complaining about servers

Servers are suffering from success

Too many peeps wanna play

[agile grove]

tbh they should just make their discord read only at this point

[harsh dove]

literally

[agile grove]

its pretty much just complaining about the servers

[harsh dove]

Complaining about servers is dumb to me, at least when the issues is because so many people wanna play

[agile grove]

why must peak be limited by server capacity

[harsh dove]

It’s different if the servers just aren’t working cause they’re shit

[mental salmon]

What servers/game? I came late to the party

[harsh dove]

Last Epoch

[agile grove]

this is a little off topic (to an already off topic topic) but I like how this channel is pretty much general 2.0 for the keyboard modders, even when not talking about keyboard modding nothing to see here keep scrolling

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/fizzer1k-5597-3689-move-along-nothing-to-seehere-gif-12353147

[median spade]

I think I've sent like two messages outside of this channel

I joined for updates back in the day when mine was shipping

[halcyon sparrow]

Lads where can I find the 60he steel plate I feel dumb

[median spade]

what do you mean by find

it comes with it unless you bought the module

if you mean like to willing buy a steel plate then they don't have it for sale

[stray tiger]

Probably a few people willing to sell you one though

[median spade]

just pay shipping amirite

[halcyon sparrow]

They come with 60hes and not modules?

[agile grove]

60he(+) prebuilt comes with a steel plate, the module comes with the PC plate.

[median spade]

^

[halcyon sparrow]

Mmm makes sense

[agile grove]

you cannot buy the steel plate separately

[median spade]

tbh you'r enot missing out on anything

steel sucks

never met someone who actually likes steel plates

[halcyon sparrow]

I was just looking for a stiff experience because I'm using a plastic case and I really want to keep it

[agile grove]

theres minimal differences between the stiffness of the steel and PC plate

[median spade]

Yeah due to the design and neewding standoffs

but if you wnat stiffer just get this

https://divinikey.com/products/kbdfans-wooting60-he-compatible-plates?variant=40629269889089

The carbon fiber one

[agile grove]

tbh never really heard of someone wanting a stiffer typing experience

your poor fingers man

[median spade]

i liked it for tactiles

but that's the only time

and i dont' use tactiles really so yeah

[halcyon sparrow]

I might just say f it and do a resin mod

[halcyon sparrow]

Oh okay I'll keep mine then

[bitter valve]

?

[halcyon sparrow]

Tbh my whole mindset for my setup is comp gaming it's a little unorthodox but cs players understand

[stray tiger]

I understand

[median spade]

yeah my friends were basically dying on a hill that gasket mount is dumb for he when i was doing frog mini conversion initially

[median spade]

"you need stiff and tray mount for consisetency or else!"

and then I told them thats the whole point of teh standoffs

[halcyon sparrow]

I do understand it's a question of minute changes here, we don't "need" anything this is purely enthusiasts min maxing attributes of a very customizable tool

[median spade]

Oh for sure

I was just letting them know it's not needed or will work fine without super stiff plate and tray mount

as they were sure you do anything other than that combo and hall effect would not work

[halcyon sparrow]

It's awesome to see what people who like typing do and how I can use some of theirs and my own preferences to find a build Im content with

Facts

It's probably world's better typing on your build

My keyboard spends majority of it's light at a 45 to 90 degrees angle so I can sit comfy with wasd on my hand 🤣

[harsh dove]

Or else what

[median spade]

they said it would mess up the hall effect sensing lol

[harsh dove]

They know nothing

[halcyon sparrow]

That's crazy

[median spade]

one is well versed in keyboards and relented to

"well im just saying it could have issues"

[harsh dove]

It could

He’s not wrong

[median spade]

me: "that's not what you said originally"

[halcyon sparrow]

I don't even think it would effect a board with .01 and continuous rapid trigger on that fast mode

[median spade]

Was going ot say my typing experience not too much different kingg but it's a tad better

[harsh dove]

As long as you’re not affecting distance between PCB and switch plate for HE, most things are fine

[median spade]

can onlydo so much when the plate is secured to pcb with screws

mmhmm

she was also dying on the hill you shouldn't lube he switches at all

[harsh dove]

Uh

[median spade]

that part she never changed stance on

[harsh dove]

Ok

[agile grove]

what

[median spade]

ye

[agile grove]

why

[halcyon sparrow]

WHAT

[median spade]

basically saying lube would effect magnet sensing and ruining the pcb etc etc

[halcyon sparrow]

Blue switch enjoyer

Mx

[agile grove]

its... a magnet

[harsh dove]

Somebody hasn’t studied magnets

[median spade]

vintage keyboard enjoyer but same thing

[harsh dove]

There’s a lot to learn tbf

Magnets are underrated

[agile grove]

you learn about magnets in like 5th grade

[median spade]

yeah her angle was more "lube will get on pcb and ruin it"

which i was like

[bitter valve]

we love magnets

[harsh dove]

That’s part of why PCBs have protective films

[median spade]

we don't love magnets for sound thats' what!

yeah i gave up after like 2 hours

[bitter valve]

upstroke is not a magnet problet haha

[median spade]

it was not worth the convo anymore lol

[median spade]

yeah bottom out still kind of weak tho is my point there

[agile grove]

wouldnt you have more chances of messing up a mechanical switch when lubing compared to an HE switch?

[median spade]

yeah

[harsh dove]

Yes

[median spade]

overlubing a he jsut spam it till it thins out

Mx kind of ruined until you ultrasonic the leaf

[halcyon sparrow]

Did she remove the factor lube from her switches?

[bitter valve]

So I had to sand down my pc plate to fit tx ap long pole screw-ins... Ended up using the wooting stab on the space tho. This built makes no sense, but it works

[harsh dove]

That’s a shame

[bitter valve]

you have more chances to mess it up even when pulling/putting it back

[harsh dove]

Stabs wouldn’t work otherwise?

[bitter valve]

nope, too tight, but I sanded like a little bit, can't really tell a diff even with wooting ones in there

[agile grove]

yep

[harsh dove]

Damn that sucks, nice tho

Which plate?

Polycarb?

[bitter valve]

but considering that both clip-in and scre-in had issues, I'm wondering if its the plate itself causing it.

[bitter valve]

yes, white wooting pc

[harsh dove]

Well I got both my screw in and clip ins to work

So idk

On the black pc plate

[bitter valve]

yea, exactly why I'm wondering if the issue is just my plate

but too many interchangeable parts, so won't be able to determine

[halcyon sparrow]

Btw guys for the space bar stabilizer, is there a way to remove the clicking sound it makes when the switch pushes the stab back to the idle position? I used grease on the stable and the bar and 205g0 on the plastic parts but no luck

[harsh dove]

Yeah I can’t imagine tolerances being that different but I wouldnt write it off as not being possible either

Or just a defect maybe

[strange blaze]

Fr its rlly a shame tx stabs also dont fit, i also have some staebies lying around on my desk since they didnt fit

[bitter valve]

yeah, it's whatever, happy with my frankenboard lol

[harsh dove]

Right lol

[harsh dove]

Well they do, at least mine did

[agile grove]

that might actually just be the switch

[harsh dove]

Staebies are confirmed to not work tho

[strange blaze]

Idk if i should try sanding down my pc plate to fit in some staebies

[harsh dove]

You’ll have to sand more than you would for tx ap

As their housing is even thicker

[strange blaze]

Yep but i only learned that after they arrived👍😭

[bitter valve]

for staebies honestly not sure, I would rather get tx ap and work with them

[harsh dove]

Yeah I figured lol

[bitter valve]

returning not an option?

[strange blaze]

Nah im def keeping them for future builds

[bitter valve]

You can also just try lol, the worst that can happened is you'll need to buy a new plate

[halcyon sparrow]

I'll try tonight to see maybe through on a single keycaps on it to test

[strange blaze]

Yea not sure if the result would be worth it

[bitter valve]

default screw-ins are relatively good. I had to improvise because my shift, enter and backspace were rocking left and right. Couldn't get a consistent sound out of them.

[strange blaze]

Yea im on stock stabs rn, been desperately looking for a sound test of someone that actually sanded it down for staebies to decide if i should try it

[bitter valve]

long poles are also louder(?). I think it's because the stem hits the PCB more aggressively.

[median spade]

me and her had first batch taht were dry

when the lekkers were truly even more horrible then now

[halcyon sparrow]

Oh daaamn

[bitter valve]

If I were you, I would just try, but if you are not in the mood to fuck around, just leave stock and forget about it lol

[median spade]

used those bad boys no lube for a solid year and half

[strange blaze]

Wouldnt that make it not compatible with thinner houseing stabs anymore

[halcyon sparrow]

I'm very surprised she didn't consider the fact that they come lubed now that it's more then acceptable for her board

[median spade]

oh trust me that didn't do anything

[bitter valve]

would make it non-compatible with plate mounted, I assume. Shouldn't really affect screw-in or clip-in since they are on the plate anyway

[median spade]

[strange blaze]

Yea im honestly pretty on the edge of trying or not, well we will see, ill just wait for keycaps and lube to come in to finish my build and then probably think about it again

[halcyon sparrow]

This poor girl

[bitter valve]

yeah, fair

[halcyon sparrow]

She might be locked in Plato's cave

[strange blaze]

Well i dont plan on using plate mounts so ig thats not a problem

[strange blaze]

Honestly if my build comes out nice without them ill just probably leave it be

[bitter valve]

yeah, then I don't really see a problem. Granted, all I'm saying is pretty much an assumption, I haven't tried staebies.

[bitter valve]

yup, I did that initially, after my clip-in didn't fit, but then noticed that 2U are not doing that good.

[halcyon sparrow]

@harsh dove do you have a link for ks20us? I can't find them just searching on google

[bitter valve]

I believe it's on Ali

[halcyon sparrow]

Does it have an English name or do I need to translate?

[bitter valve]

lemme see if I can find them

[harsh dove]

Got mine on MechKeys

[bitter valve]

yup, that's easier