🔧│keyboard_modding

[quiet bay]

I was just showing as an example of WK and WKL

xd

[untold wigeon]

What size did you go with

[agile grove]

I got medium because they didnt have the new small size when I got my o-ring, but that one requires clip in stabs on the backspace key. a few people in here have had success using the small o-ring with screw in stabs.

[untold wigeon]

Bet is there a big difference between 30A-60A

[agile grove]

the bigger the number the harder the o-ring is, I think most people agree that 40a is probably the best

[untold wigeon]

Ok dope, Ty for your help! I will get a small 40a 😄

[median spade]

this was p cool if you haven't see this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNT34c8a7sI

raptors data output was a bit more than lekkers

[bronze grove]

Because someone told them to, they don't know what they're doing

[quick gate]

Got my module, alumaze, L45s, and keycaps together, love this keyboard. Unfortunately my case sitting on every surface I can test is wobbly, hopefully just the feet and not the aluminum case itself but we'll see if Wooting can help me fix.

[polar girder]

lol

There’s an advantage with switches now? Hmm

I guess there is a difference in magnets

[agile grove]

apparently the raptor's magnet is outside of the range the wooting accounts for making it more sensitive

[polar girder]

Right. Yeah I’m using lekker stem in Raptor housing so I guess I’m missing out

Man lekker stems and 1k polling keyboard

[harsh dove]

Yeah the raptor has a stronger magnet

[polar girder]

I really don’t stand a chance

[harsh dove]

Which means something like 0.3mm feels like 0.1mm

[polar girder]

OP

[harsh dove]

You just adjust accordingly in the software

That’s also why I like jades tho cause faster bottom out

[polar girder]

Maybe a l45 or jade spring with a raptor stem feels feather light

What games you play cam

[harsh dove]

Tarkov and Helldivers 2 lol

[polar girder]

Gotcha

I’m a CS2 and OW2 maniac lol

Helldivers looks kind of cool tho.

[harsh dove]

It’s so fun

[static tendon]

The 80HE is said to have 8k pulling rate. Will the module also have this feature after an update or something?

[wind karma]

hey cam. you use sticking to the jades for now or?

[agile grove]

its not planned as of now

[static tendon]

Got it

[agile grove]

also they would have to update the entire MCU, which imo isnt really worth the cost and testing for .9ms

[polar girder]

60HE lacks the hardware they sai

So no 8k for 60HE module or +

[polar girder]

Damn bruh. Speak for yourself

I’d buy another module to have 8k

No 🧢

[wind karma]

buy 80he, saw off 20 keys ez

[harsh dove]

Iirc 60HE can’t handle it

Would need entirely new hardware

[polar girder]

Yeah 80HE form factor not gonna work for me

[agile grove]

yup, 1k is the max the MCU can handle

[polar girder]

Module is so 2023

[agile grove]

I dont mean the cost for us, I mean the cost for wooting

[polar girder]

8k is the future

[halcyon sparrow]

It's more about costs for wooting not us

[normal schooner]

hmm im kinda crious what simon can do with the arm chip and the 60he has fewer keys

[polar girder]

I know lol

[agile grove]

nope, only change was holes for screw in stabs

[tawdry horizon]

Jades better than raptors?

[agile grove]

personal preference

[static tendon]

I thought the hardware was already new coming from the module/60he+?

[halcyon sparrow]

Depends the goal

[quiet bay]

most prefer jades

[polar girder]

Most haven’t tried jades and raptors fwiw tho

[agile grove]

like I said above, only change was holes for screw in stabs

[halcyon sparrow]

The 80 is a concept still it's "new new"

[normal schooner]

no thats a you thing

[polar girder]

Jades are more unique

Raptors are more like better lekkers

[harsh dove]

Yeah the module uses AVR instead of ARM but still can’t handle 8K

[quiet bay]

😔

[harsh dove]

As far as I’m aware*

[quiet bay]

raptors do sound clackier and have more of resemblance to lekkers
jades are kind of closer to a mechanical switch sound but kind of still have that he signature sound

[halcyon sparrow]

If you want to receive a strong effect in regards to latency polling difference in a keyboard from 1k to 8k there's a lot to look at

[agile grove]

wait what are you saying the 60he+ uses AVR? they've used ARM in all of their boards since summer 2022.

[tawdry horizon]

Shortest travel time and for fps

[polar girder]

Stem swapped raptors stay on top for the thock imo

[harsh dove]

Do you have the module? Look in wootility

[quiet bay]

you do kind of have to break them in tho since it will add friction

[halcyon sparrow]

Then get lekker 45s

[quiet bay]

I mean

[halcyon sparrow]

They have the most sensitive springs

[quiet bay]

they're all light as hell in general

[halcyon sparrow]

If he truly wants an end all answer

[quiet bay]

I would assume he's trying to get good sound too 🤔

[harsh dove]

Shortest travel would be Jades currently

[halcyon sparrow]

In a question of minute differences

[agile grove]

yeah it uses ARM, like I said they switched from AVR in 2022.

[harsh dove]

Hold on I just woke up lemme double check

[polar girder]

Yeah mine is ARM

[quiet bay]

wait

what

why would they

switch back to AVR?

[polar girder]

LAST I CHECKED^^^*

[tawdry horizon]

Ty that would be great

[agile grove]

they didnt, CAM's just a little eepy

[quiet bay]

would be really weird if they did cause what's the point xd

[halcyon sparrow]

@tawdry horizon do you mean bottom out height or initial actuation?

Because one switch could activate first with the same force and be bottomed out at a later time

[harsh dove]

Literally, my bad lmao

I swore I saw AVR in my wootility recently and for some reason thought that

[tawdry horizon]

Shortest travel time and least initiation force

[agile grove]

that being said, the 60he+ still cant handle 8k since it uses the same MCU as the old 60he

[harsh dove]

Correct

Point still stands lmao

Even if I’m sleepy

[harsh dove]

Initial acuation on jades is similar or the same as lekker

Bottom out is faster on jades cause of the closed bottom housing resulting in 3.5mm total travel

[tawdry horizon]

So are overall jades faster than raptors?

[polar girder]

Define faster

[tawdry horizon]

Due to shorter travel time

[tawdry horizon]

Sorry I’m kinda new to HE switches but faster if it makes sense is travel time

[wind karma]

if you bottom out without rapid trigger yes

[harsh dove]

^

[wind karma]

with rapid trigger travel distance shouldnt matter

unless you dont like how it feels

[harsh dove]

Basically

Because you’re changing your actuation anyway

So unless you use the full 3.5mm

And it limits some DKS and analog I think as well unless that’s been worked on in recent firmware update

[wind karma]

why do the jades have a starting point of 0.2mm btw

weak magnets?

[agile grove]

bro I really dont know at this point lmao, we've moved on from the beta that was added in and the stable version is past that beta version so im assuming its in the stable version?

[median spade]

The magnet is stronger on the raptors by a bit so they're more sensitive than the Jades, but not a huge amount or anything

[harsh dove]

That’s what I thought too but I need to check

I’ve been lazy

[wind karma]

yeah i meant compared to lekkers

[median spade]

jades are just lekkers with closed bottom and such

[harsh dove]

Jades have same magnet as lekkers iirc

[tawdry horizon]

Lekker 45s?

[wind karma]

yeag but it says they have a starting actuation point of .2mm

[median spade]

lekker stem

[halcyon sparrow]

You have to remind when spamming a key for example in a jiggle peak, you can probably most the fastest with the weakest spring bottoming out with a magnetic hall affect switch isn't as important as normal mechanical switches... In my opinion I like having a longer bottom out to using rapid trigger's continuous feature

[wind karma]

not the .1 of lekkers

[wind karma]

good point

[median spade]

60g spring in jades =

[wind karma]

i like 3.5mm but with my current keyboard its painful cause i bottom out hard into a metal plate lol

[tawdry horizon]

Ah Ty for such info

[agile grove]

the wooting is known for being super stiff to type on

[wind karma]

fatiguing after a while honestly

[wind karma]

im using a razer huntsman LOL but yeah thats why i’m getting a module

[median spade]

Yeah i use my jades with a pom plate

[wind karma]

i want that PC plate

[wind karma]

whats the difference between pom and pc

[halcyon sparrow]

@tawdry horizon my pleasure man consider these and also look at a post by the thocc father I will attach in regards to switches

[agile grove]

you should gummy mount it

[agile grove]

they sell the PC plate separately too, but its more expensive

[median spade]

pom is more flexy

besides like obviously plastic composition and sound profile

[wind karma]

if the bottom out is 45 grams does that mean its a 45g spring or 30 im so confused

[median spade]

yes

bottom out denotes the spring weight

never actuation

[halcyon sparrow]

#🪛│modding_faq message this is a list of other switches if you do decide to research deeper

[agile grove]

45g

[wind karma]

thank god i thought it was a 30 gram spring which i would have to swap from

[median spade]

it's still really light

[wind karma]

i use 40 rn and cannot imagine goong lighter rlly

[tawdry horizon]

So looking at this can we say jades are very similar to l45s?

[median spade]

I swapped mine to L60 springs in my jades

[wind karma]

i want 45 yeah

[wind karma]

oo

[harsh dove]

Jades are similar to 45s in spring weight

45s are lighter

[tawdry horizon]

Ah got it

[wind karma]

idk how to do that and what difference does it make?

[agile grove]

jades and L45s share the start weight but jades are about 50g bottom

[wind karma]

yea ill get a module which comes with it right?

[halcyon sparrow]

Oh ya they are similar, it's just when I am given a question of "the best" I had to choose between the two

[agile grove]

#🪛│modding_faq

[agile grove]

yep

[wind karma]

oh. which one sounds deeper

[wind karma]

oh alr

[harsh dove]

Gummy mount is the process of wrapping an oring around your PCB and inserting into the case without using any screws, gives a deeper more consistent sound profile

[wind karma]

sick !

[wind karma]

oh

[harsh dove]

A lot of us do it

It’s nice

[wind karma]

any problems i may face?

[harsh dove]

Fitting it into the case

[tawdry horizon]

Ah cool with that said ima go with the jades

[harsh dove]

With gummy mount you can’t use the silicone sandwich pad, you’ll have to use foam or nothing

[median spade]

PC

[agile grove]

I will note this is slightly outdated. it says you need clip in stabs but if you get a graveshift small o-ring you can use the stock stabs.

[lost badge]

can I use Medium 45A and is the color affect the appearance of the keyboard?

40A is out of stock:(

[harsh dove]

Yes you can and color is up to you

Some RGB can bounce of the o ring color tho

If you use RGB

[wind karma]

guess ill get that then.?

[wind karma]

i see okay

[median spade]

In the material of the graveshift listed

Orings can be buna n, silicone, FKm, etc

[lost badge]

ohh okay good to know tkss

[polar girder]

What did you end up with? Foam or nothing?

[agile grove]

@harsh dove you ever try out those graveshift smalls?

[wind karma]

i have no research done for gummy o ring mounts so which ones work fir the 60HE

[harsh dove]

I’m using nothing with o ring mount in my alumaze

[median spade]

Just be like me and give up on making 60he sound good because it’s impossible

[harsh dove]

Yeah they work fine

[agile grove]

with stock stabs?

[wind karma]

ive seen some decent sounding ones that i like

[harsh dove]

I used TX AP Screw Ins

[agile grove]

gotcha

[harsh dove]

I wanna swap back to stock stabs tho I think

[median spade]

Decent is a far as you can go

Still never touches most Mx stuff

[agile grove]

graveshift small o-ring

[halcyon sparrow]

I was considering tx aps what's the largest difference between them? Just the sound?

[wind karma]

i like decent its still an upgrade in every way over what i have

[agile grove]

https://mech.land/products/graveshift-o-rings

[lapis stump]

did your spacebar stab not give you any issues with the rings or did you tell me you have a platemount for those?

[wind karma]

oh

[harsh dove]

Nah you can get them to sound the same imo or very similar, tx ap just has tighter housing tolerances

But their entire housing is also thicker so you can run into potential issues when fitting to the plate

I’ve gotten them to work fine on my PC plates

[halcyon sparrow]

For typing experiences what makes you watch to revert?

[agile grove]

[halcyon sparrow]

Rubbing? Or the tight feeling while typing?

[harsh dove]

Nah spacebar was fine but I did have to work that side in more

To get the oring under the plate

Kept wanting to pop up

[agile grove]

what about the backspace key?

[harsh dove]

Nah that was fine tbh

Mainly had to work the spacebar side

[lapis stump]

yeah i didnt have issues either, other than the space, i did replace the spacebar one with plate mount and now all fine and dandy. Ended up using the 65A for it too over the tofu case foam and it sounds great

[harsh dove]

Nah the tx ap are great either way

But so are the stock screw ins

[agile grove]

I was able to get the stock spacebar to work with my medium graveshift but I had to fight it lol, dont think backspace would've worked tho had to switch that to a tx ap clip in stab

[harsh dove]

Yeah I might try with the stock screw ins then and see if I have any issue

[polar girder]

Yeah I was thinking stock screw ins, small o-ring, no foam, polyfill in case

[lapis stump]

i think people have had easier time with the aluminum

for me, i have an acrylic tofu so i can see how warped the rings gets when you wedge it down wrong and it triggered by ocd

[wind karma]

i will remember this now, great

[lapis stump]

do you have an acrylic too?

[wind karma]

nope im planning to build an aluminium 60HE but

[halcyon sparrow]

Guys a friend of mine recommended me a bronze plate for rigidness. And I noticed we don't have that sort of option. Would you guys say FR4 plate is the closest experience to a bronze one? (I have no clue what FR4 even means)

[wind karma]

knowing that theyll be warped…

[fallow hinge]

has anyone tried out jade switches? I feel like the standard lekkers have a lot of stem wobble and I'm thinking about trying something with a tighter tolerance (maybe my batch of lekkers was an outlier)

[wind karma]

lekkers are wobbly yes

jades are not wobbly from what ive heard, someone else answer that for them lol

[harsh dove]

Jades or KS20u

[wind karma]

i m not sure

[lapis stump]

they were warping when i had the stock space bar stabs

[harsh dove]

Jades have little to no wobble, KS20u basically has no wobble

[fallow hinge]

appreciate that

it genuinely feels like my switch is sliding around in the socket

but the switch is perfectly stable

[wind karma]

that looks cool but the o ring 😿

[wind karma]

ks20u vs jade? ive never heard of this switch

[harsh dove]

It’s new

[polar girder]

Dual rail gateron

[fallow hinge]

I'm looking to keep a similar sound profile to the lekkers with tighter tolerances

[agile grove]

KS-20us are newer, think of them as lekkers with "no" wobble

[wind karma]

ohh

so they still sound like lekkers but not rattly

?

as in no rattle sounds

[polar girder]

A lubed up 20U could be sweet

[fallow hinge]

some of the switches in feel perfectly fine and then the other half feel shot so if I wanted to qc it myself I'd need like double or triple the switches to qc it

[agile grove]

pretty much

[wind karma]

i see

[harsh dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984799440072220692/1205971868285407312/2024-02-10_13-14-49.mp4?ex=65da4fd3&is=65c7dad3&hm=c785a1690c40ec0ae1f81daaea5d677b242dab6f843e9116e1c40ee80e62281d&

Alumaze x KS20u

[wind karma]

oo yeah better than lekker

do you use those now

[harsh dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984799440072220692/1205974610328420432/Salvo_KS20u.mp4?ex=65da5261&is=65c7dd61&hm=d37bcbaef07dcb334e8d52299528b56daaedfc02b71c89c78e9f9ba7f5af9b03&

Salvation x KS20u

[harsh dove]

Yeah I mess around with em from time to time

[wind karma]

especially nice in the alumaze i think personally

i think jades are my favourite

tho

[agile grove]

they sound better in the alumaze imo

[harsh dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984799440072220692/1205975607478067250/Salvo_Jades.mp4?ex=65da534e&is=65c7de4e&hm=fb9b6c02e8492c749cc5782ede528aa53a014d90daca4da50833917e338415c4&

[wind karma]

which switch do you like most?

[harsh dove]

Salvation x Jades

I like jades more

[harsh dove]

Yeah I think so too

[polar girder]

So clacky

[wind karma]

oh yeah wtf the jades are really clacky in this lol

[harsh dove]

Lmao

[wind karma]

atleast in the salvo i like the ks20u it suits my preferences better ig

[agile grove]

do you have jades and tofu or alumaze?

[wind karma]

ye i wanna see that

[harsh dove]

Yeah hold on

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984799440072220692/1193329453229678713/IMG_9287.mov?ex=65da7628&is=65c80128&hm=fee4fc58017666affb70d096b4f45b33eaac344f6b428c809e47c9d10f261cb7&

Gummy mount, case foam, moleskin , no plate foam

[agile grove]

meh

[gaunt linden]

What plate are you using?

[agile grove]

I think im good tbh

[harsh dove]

Pc plate

[wind karma]

alr

[harsh dove]

I prefer them in the salvation lol

KS20u in alumaze

[wind karma]

hmmm maybe KS20u new best for me?

[lapis stump]

were you using a different mic for those vs the previous video?

[lapis stump]

i would take video sound with a grain of salt, they would sound pretty different in person depending on setup etc

[harsh dove]

Yeah iPhone 14 Pro vs SHURE MV7X

Top downs are SHURE

Side views are phone

[lapis stump]

these taken with a samsung s21 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0AADO7oBjw

[wind karma]

yeah true. seems like the KS20u’s have a deeper profile for sure though?

[lapis stump]

appears so assuming the setups for the salv are the same in terms of foam, plate,caps and the only difference is switches

[wind karma]

yeah. cam can you confirm?

[harsh dove]

Salva doesn't have case foam and Alumaze does

So keep that in mind

[wind karma]

the keycaps are different ig

[harsh dove]

Gonna sound deeper in Alumaze for that reason

Otherwise both are using 1 layer moleskin and no plate foam

and both using GMK ABS keycaps

[wind karma]

so it seems the ks20u’s do have the deeper profile i guess

[harsh dove]

Compared to Jades, yeah I'd say so

[wind karma]

why do you prefer the jades btw?

[harsh dove]

I just like their sound

[wind karma]

I see

[harsh dove]

I like the feel of KS20u tho

[wind karma]

i like the deeper one from the ks20u

[wind karma]

that no wobble feel or spring?

[harsh dove]

Just overall ig

They feel nice

[wind karma]

oh

whats the spring weight

[harsh dove]

exact same as Jades

[wind karma]

nicee

what abt

is it factory lubed

[harsh dove]

Yes and pretty good factory lube too

[wind karma]

lets goo wtf

ill build my 60HE with these i think

which site can i purchase them on?

[harsh dove]

Mechkeys

[wind karma]

alright

why does it say 50gf for spring there

feels the same though id assume?

as 45

[harsh dove]

Jades and KS20u are 50g springs

Raptors are 52g

L45s are 45g

[wind karma]

ohh i thought jades were 45

[harsh dove]

No 45s are lighter

[wind karma]

yeah

how different is 45 to 50

[harsh dove]

I own 45s but never typed on them so idk

[wind karma]

oh

have you tried anything lower than 45

[harsh dove]

No

[wind karma]

i see

hows rgb with the ks20u

[harsh dove]

Good, they have a better diffuser

[wind karma]

thats good

i have all the info i need ig thank you

[harsh dove]

Np

[fallow hinge]

I heard the jades aren't compatible with the space bar is that true?

you have to change like the stabs or something, no?

[lapis stump]

they are compatible with the screw ins that come with the module

[fallow hinge]

oh perfect that's what I have

thanks for the info

I guess that's why they made the change to call it the he+

[vivid orchid]

what's your sleep score

[bitter valve]

You might have issues with wobbly spacebar, but that requires prior testing.

[midnight lotus]

if you wanna switch out the keycaps, what kind of keycaps do you need to buy?

[halcyon obsidian]

Not sure if this helps anyone but I just got normal tx ap rev 4 clip ins and I have some kbdfans keycaps which have some tight tolerances and I have 0 issue with stab wobble or one side popping out the other when pressing down too hard

[lapis stump]

lol thats not a smart ring

[vivid orchid]

lol

[median spade]

yeah it really only is a issue with keycaps that have terrible tolerances

[agile grove]

cherry mx stem, 6.25u spacebar

[median spade]

I have a KAT set that the spacebar just pops off no matter what is is used with it

can only imagine if would ' even work on jades if I tried

[midnight lotus]

thanks!

[quiet bay]

spacebar could do some tuning

otherwise it does sound nice

[lapis stump]

just needs a touch more lube on the wires lol

[median spade]

viper mini se 60he gamer

[agile grove]

I should wipe off the stock lube when lubing stabs with dielectric grease right?

[median spade]

Yeah

[agile grove]

ight bet

time to take this thing apart... again

how much lube should I use? I heard I should just dip it into the tube.

[stray tiger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxHb6CJc9V8

[agile grove]

the goat himself! thanks.

[stray tiger]

Alex is the man, solid video

I actually did a 30min interview with Alex a few days ago to put up on the channel. More details soon.

[agile grove]

very interesting

[median spade]

I like to hand paint it on thin like 205g0 myself

But what he shared works great too

[agile grove]

my stab wasn’t ticking outside of the housing and off the board but it seems to be ticking now

[lapis stump]

Did you put it back into the housing the same way you pulled it out?

[sour blade]

wow the tofu is kind of annoying

giant hole in the middle for brass weight

what if i dont want the bass weight

now theres giant gaping hole in the middle to create hollowness

makes me realize why most keyboards have the weights installed on the bottom instead of the other way around

very annoying

[bronze grove]

You didn't notice the big gap during checkout?

[wet hazel]

That's where I put foam

[balmy geyser]

does the wooting pc plate fit staebies stab?

[sharp yew]

put something in it

[glacial wind]

yeah, spring tension is personal preference and jade is roughly middle of the options available

no reason to swap those springs unless you specifically want lighter or heavier switches

[tawdry tree]

No.

[median spade]

would still be hollow without it trust

All aluminum cases, unless gasket mounted or lots of foam, are inherently pingy. Tray mount, top mount, etc

[placid blaze]

Does the 60HE+ support clip ins 😳

I may have copped the wrong stabs LOL

[paper bloom]

It shld work

[placid blaze]

phew

cheers

[paper bloom]

Cam has clip ins in his poly carb

For the module

[placid blaze]

much appreciated

crisis averted

[paper bloom]

Happy 2 help

[quiet bay]

yis
plate mount, clip ins, and screw ins work

[stray tiger]

Get some zipfit or tungsten weights for the cavity

[placid blaze]

jade switches are no joke

holy they're nice

tbh I don't like that they're so lightweight, but they sound great compared to L60s IMO

[median spade]

spring swap the l60 spring into them like i did

makes them even better

[placid blaze]

I've actually got a bunch of super heavy springs on order

I think the heaviest is 125g

I don't think I'll ever be bottoming out 125g switches but adjustable actuation is awesome, so I might just set them to 3mm or something

[obsidian dagger]

where did you get compatible sprijgs? people are probably interested in that

[wet hazel]

Prob Ali, there are several 'Springs for magnetic switches'

[obsidian dagger]

yeah but lekkers have bigger stems than other switches

[wet hazel]

The first result at least

[obsidian dagger]

that is nice then

[austere creek]

Wire diameter 0.25~0.3 mm
Free length (not pressed) 16.5 mm (length might change when the start & end gf is different)```

our springs dimensions

[wet hazel]

Mmm not quite an exact match

Better to wait for the official spring pack release from wooting

[median spade]

they work

talked to some peopple on reddit/other discords about it

I was going to buy them but I just murdered my l60s for it as they weren't getting used again ever anyways

[stray tiger]

@harsh dove you around?

[minor pond]

Finished the keyboard pc fans loud my b

[vivid orchid]

I’m gooning to this

[shrewd dragon]

is that spacebar upside down

?

[austere creek]

yes

a lot of people do that for a nicer angle in relation to the thumbs

[shrewd dragon]

alr never considered that

[minor pond]

It feels nice for me

[wild sphinx]

What are oem keycaps?

[bronze grove]

OEM typically refers to the profile.

We use OEM for all of our keycap sets (as do most gaming brands) with the exception of our take control set, which is cherry

[normal schooner]

What now

why no one every told me this

I didnt know tc is cherry profile

[stray tiger]

demoted

[normal schooner]

[bronze grove]

https://tenor.com/view/tough-fair-soue-gif-14430740

[harsh dove]

Wassup

[mystic pumice]

Can someone send me a link for the Wooting beta driver?

[bronze grove]

That's not how it works.

You access it from within Wootility.

[mystic pumice]

No I got a github link for a beta driver once so I could get driver support for Jade switches

I was told normal drives from Wootility does not support Jades and I need beta drivers from github

I had to flash reset my 60HE because it keeps changing profiles and RGB setting on its own and I need drivers that support Jades

[stray tiger]

Was going to have you help me check audio levels and test youtube streaming but I apparently had not submitted for streaming verification to youtube so now Im waiting a day lol

[harsh dove]

Oh okay haha, yeah just let me know

[wide kraken]

so I feel like I got my Two HE to a decent sounding state (poron plate foam, butyl case lining (kilmat), tape mod, MT3 Pulse caps)

one more thing I want to tune out is a bit of the rattle, from what I've read the jades and peaches have less stem wobble/rattle than the lekkers, any ideas if one or the other will do the trick based on the sample?

[mystic pumice]

I got the Jades and they are fantastic

I have no clue if the same goes for Two HE but if I wanna change keycaps on my 60HE with Jades I may need to change stabilizers to a Long Pole 1.6mm

Because of the 3.5mm travel distance instead of 4.0mm

[unkempt crystal]

lf for cheap red blank keycaps

aliexpress or temu shi

[wide kraken]

yeah, thinking of the peaches since apparently they don't need new stabs? i actually kinda like how they sound at the moment so

[unkempt crystal]

or anything below 50$

[stray tiger]

Jades wouldn't likely need new stabs either

[mystic pumice]

?

[wide kraken]

with the o-ring on stab in the FAQ?

[unkempt crystal]

?

[wide kraken]

usually haven't been a huge fan of how those feel on the spacebar stabs but am open to trying

[mystic pumice]

Who where you talking to?

Was someone asking for keycaps advice?

[unkempt crystal]

wshat

looking for cheap red blank keycaps

is what i said

[agile grove]

don’t even need o-rings, just the stock stabs should work

the stock wooting keycaps should be tight enough

[stray tiger]

Yes IF you even notice an issue.

[wide kraken]

ah okay

[mystic pumice]

Oh you did not say you where looking for them. you just said "if for red keycaps" so I thought you where suggesting them lmao

[unkempt crystal]

i said

lf

[mystic pumice]

Are the wooting stabs prelubed? Because they still have a very distinct and loud metal ping

[unkempt crystal]

lf-looking for

[grand hill]

Hey guys

[unkempt crystal]

🤓

[grand hill]

i wanna get a better sounding keyboard but idk what i should start with

[mystic pumice]

Looked like an i not an l

[mystic pumice]

Depends on what sound profile you want. Are you into "thock" or maybe perhabs "clacky"?

[grand hill]

prolly thock but whats cheaper

[mystic pumice]

Idk I am completely new to modding and have only switched out my stock switches for the Jades

And the jades made my 60HE quite a bit more thocky

But I need to change out my stabs in the future since my spacebar still have a distinct and loud metal ping sound

[glacial wind]

don't change it out, just grab a syringe with stab lube and put a little in

that fixes 99% of stabs without needing to do anything else

[mystic pumice]

I wanna get new stabs as well since I am considering trying out a few differenct types of keycaps as well. So I would like to have them on hand just in case

[glacial wind]

with stabs if it's changing plate mount stab for another plate mount stab it's basically throwing away money

[mystic pumice]

So I am permanetly stuck with stock keycaps with my Jade switches?

[glacial wind]

huh, what do you mean?

the keycaps have nothing to do with the stabs

[mystic pumice]

I was told I need to change to long pole 1.6mm to make jades work with different keycaps

There is inteference with different keycaps with the Jades

[glacial wind]

no that whole jade thing is only if you get keycap wobble on the space bar in particular

do you get keycap wobble on space bar right now?

[mystic pumice]

No I have stock Wooting keycaps but I am planning on buying 5 different sets of keycaps to test out and want a compatible stabilizer on hand

because having to order just one item in EU is expensive as fuck

[glacial wind]

you don't need to change stab to change keycaps

[harsh dove]

You don’t NEED long pole for jades, that’s a false rumor

Only needed if you experience issues with keycap tolerance on the spacebar

[stray tiger]

Stab and keycap compatibility isnt a thing in the MX world of keyboards. They all work. Check the FAQ for details about switches https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[mystic pumice]

Even when stated by the Wooting staff themselves?

[harsh dove]

Don’t know whoever said it but yes, you don’t NEED long pole stabs for the jades, im using them right now with regular stabs

Zero issue

[stray tiger]

Not sure who you're referring to. I address it in the FAQ I linked.

[mystic pumice]

You are using stock keycaps right?

[harsh dove]

Using GMK

But they worked with the wooting keycaps too

[mystic pumice]

I am using Jades with stock keycaps too and it works fine but I just wanna make sure before spending a lot of money on keycaps

[glacial wind]

changing keycaps doesn't change stab compatibility - it's only that sometimes keycaps have looser tolerances and might get keycap wobble on long pole switches

[harsh dove]

If you’re not buying $20 keycaps you’ll likely be fine

And what Sno said

[glacial wind]

aka what we're trying to tell you is whatever aftermarket keycaps you're planning to use doesn't change the stab you use usually

I'm using long pole switches on normal keycaps right now in multiple boards without changing to long pole specific stabs

[harsh dove]

^^ same

[mystic pumice]

Aight cool thanks

[harsh dove]

And in my experience if your keycaps aren’t cheap, the tolerance isn’t an issue usually unless you happen to get a bad batch like warped spacebar but again, typically happens with cheaper sets

[mystic pumice]

Hopefully that wont be an issue with Cerakeys

[harsh dove]

Nah should be fine

@stray tiger

Showed up early

[stray tiger]

Yeah man

[stray tiger]

Stream it so I can see what they look like. Never seen them outside of photos

[harsh dove]

alright hold on

[grand hill]

so what should i start off to make my kb sound better as cheap as possible? my kb is stock rn

[stray tiger]

lubing

[grand hill]

what lube should i get

and doesnt htat take like 5 hours

[stray tiger]

You asked for cheapest not fastest 🙂

[mystic pumice]

You also need to buy a tool to disassemble each switch

And a brush

[grand hill]

how much does that cost

[mystic pumice]

https://www.gateron.co/products/gateron-switch-opener

[stray tiger]

You could buy the wooting lube kit for an all-in-one and its a great deal if you only plan to lube a few keyboards

[grand hill]

how much does it cost

[mystic pumice]

this one is 30$ but you can easily find them cheaper from a different seller

[grand hill]

wtf

[mystic pumice]

?

[grand hill]

$30 is super expensive imo

[stray tiger]

https://wooting.io/product/blank-switch-toolkit if you dont have any lube, switch opener, brushes, etc etc

$35

[mystic pumice]

Welcome to keyboard modding

[grand hill]

bro what

would the tape mod help at all or nah

[stray tiger]

Not for a stock board

[grand hill]

what does a switch opener even need to do like cant you just use a screwdriver or smth

and i have some rubiks cube lube would

do you think that would work 💀

[stray tiger]

It opens the switches so you can lube them wiothout damaging the switch

[mystic pumice]

If you force open a switch with you hands you can easily damage your hands and switch

[wide kraken]

switch openers basically just open all the tabs at once

yes, you can open them with screwdriver or fingernails even, but then it takes longer and more error prone

[grand hill]

i mean can i not just like make one with liek cheap materials

[mystic pumice]

If you are too poor to pay 30 bucks for tools then maybe modding isn't for you @grand hill

[grand hill]

its not that im too poor to pay $30

[wide kraken]

if you have access to a 3d printer there's lots of models of them

[grand hill]

which i also think is a pretty dickish thing to do

or say

but i think its a massivve waste of money

[mystic pumice]

Then don't mod?

Stock wooting is still really good

[grand hill]

$30 for a piece of plastic

[minor pond]

Ngl I used a end of my switch puller to open the switch

[grand hill]

how

[stray tiger]

It does sound elitist but he isnt exactly wrong. Finding mods that make a noticeable sound improvement for less than that isnt common

[wide kraken]

what's wrong with the wooting kit though? $35 for various tools and lube is pretty fair imo

[minor pond]

Just hit the clips on the switch with the end of the puller just don’t pull too hard on it or you might brake it open

[grand hill]

the wooting kit seems kinda expensive but not that bad but he sent a $30 switch opener

[mystic pumice]

I said there are cheaper aftermaket onces

I never said that was the go to

It was just from a known company

The same company that makes the stock switches for Wooting

[grand hill]

nah i know its jut an insane price imo

[mystic pumice]

Not really

[grand hill]

wait wdym what clips on a switch

[grand hill]

how

[mystic pumice]

Then not mod a keyboard? It is gonna take some money like it or not

[grand hill]

Bro why are you talking like this

[mystic pumice]

Because all you do is complain about the prices of stuff people suggest

[grand hill]

all i do? i've been in here for like 20 minutes

[mystic pumice]

And in those 20 minuttes all suggestions have been throwned out the window for being expensive

[grand hill]

what all suggestionns

[minor pond]

https://youtu.be/Aqm-iNPuXZ4?si=VG_cHEYUIlOc1GGZ

[mystic pumice]

30$ mod KIT is too expensive? A whole kit?

[grand hill]

im not talking about the mod kit

[glacial wind]

switch openers are often about 7-10$ by itself if you get the quality ones

then lube is about $10 or so depending on what you get

[stray tiger]

He is trying to save money, totally worthwhile effort that I encourage but it is what it is, its not a cheap thing if you're on a solid budget

However, its a good investment if you intend to mod keyboards in general

[mystic pumice]

This. You can't expect to get a HUGE sound and feel difference from 20 bucks but it definitely will do something

But if 30 bucks is too expensive then you are looking at the wrong hobby

[glacial wind]

if nothing else please invest in at least a cheap switch opener - your hands will thank you

[minor pond]

Fr

[glacial wind]

trying to manually open switches is not fun

[grand hill]

nah im not trying to do it as a hobby but my wooting has like a clacky sound that it didnt have when i first got it

[wide kraken]

i mean it kinda depends on where you start from but lubing is probably the biggest sound and feel difference
aside from just rebuilding with new case/switches/etc. (which as mentioned is obv expensive)

[grand hill]

is there anything special about kb lube or is it just like lube becasue i have like rubiks cube lube

[wide kraken]

nothing really special, the ones in that kit are just a commonly used composition/viscosity

[stray tiger]

Can you open the switches by hand? 100% https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85c-6kn55Ww

I dont suggest it though

[wide kraken]

not familiar enough with rubiks cube lube to know if it's similar thopugh

[mystic pumice]

If you do use the wrong lube on accident you can potentially destroy your keyboard

Whatever you do DO NOT USE WD40!!! I had a friend destroy his Wooting TWO HE because he thought spraying it would be 100 times faster and because he had it in his home

[stray tiger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZb2xBn62ig

[wide kraken]

well that's because WD40 is also a solvent/cleaning agent

i doubt rubiks cube lube is lol

[grand hill]

95% of the time I use my keyboard is for gaming

[mystic pumice]

Do you use headset?

[grand hill]

so instead of lubing every. single. switch. i think i could just lubhel ike wasd f, spacebar, f, e, tab, etc. righnt?

[mystic pumice]

if so then no NEED to change anything since you wont be hearing it much anyway

[stray tiger]

If you want overall sound then I would do them all.

[grand hill]

idk what that really like means but is there a way i could find the viscosity of my rubiks cube lube

[grand hill]

nah i just play games and some keys kinda piss me off

[stray tiger]

Which lube are you using for your cube?

[grand hill]

i can check i had like a few

and i might have some butterfly knife lube too

[mystic pumice]

Dude if your biggest complaint is about spending time AND money on the keyboard then don't change anything.

If you are on an extreme budget then its gonna be hard and if you refuse to spend an hour or two lubing every key the one and only time you need to then don't do it

You only have to lube them ONCE and then that would be it

[grand hill]

nah time is whatever but i have heard people say lubing their keys was the worst most time consuming thing ever but if i use wasd f e space bar c and tab like literally 50x more than my other keys than it seems worth it to me

[mystic pumice]

It takes like an hour dude max 2

[grand hill]

i thought you had to lube them every few months

[mystic pumice]

No

[grand hill]

oh i heard someone say block out like MULTIPLE hours they siad like 5

[mystic pumice]

Only if the lube dries out from not being used

[mystic pumice]

If you use fingers to open switches then yes

But no just lube them once and you are good to go

Only need to relube if the keyboard have not been used for maybe a month or mulitple

[grand hill]

i have martian lube

[grand hill]

Gans magic lube, speed 3 cube lube, and some random bottle + syringe

[mystic pumice]

But again I would recommend lubeing EVERY switch and then not worry about it as long as you use it pretty often.

Lube only dries out if it is not being used

[stray tiger]

That stuff looks way too thin to be a good switch lube. Might work on the springs but not the housings

[grand hill]

ok

[stray tiger]

But...

[stray tiger]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/jtd2ss/rubiks_cube_lubricant_for_mechanical_keyboards/

People saidf it works but that yes its too thin and didnt last long enough. Plus if its too thin itll puddle under your switch

[mystic pumice]

If you want to make sure you get the correct lube I would recommend buying lube made for keyboard because using wrong lube could be more expensive than looking for a cheap alternative

If the wrong lube breaks the keyboard that is

[wide kraken]

(also unrelated to this convo, but as far as I can see the KS-20U aren't up on gateron's website yet, right? only mechkeys?)

[grand hill]

ok

[mystic pumice]

Again not to sound like an elitist or a dick but if you are new and don't know a whole lot, then just get whatever is MADE FOR KEYBOARDS! Becasue getting the cheap stuff MAY work but if not then in the end it is much more expensive becasue you may need a new keyboard in the end

Only try aftermarket lube if you know what you are doing and if you are new to modding @grand hill then take the safe route or risk damaging/destroying your keyboard

[grand hill]

ok\

[true fulcrum]

lol anyone got any tips on how to remove pcb with gummy oring mount in the alumaze case?

That shit is hard stuck rn xD

[grand hill]

what do o rings do

[stray tiger]

Start here https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[mystic pumice]

You can use O rings for A LOT of different stuff on a keyboard

Mounts. on stabilizers. keycaps. etc etc

[mystic pumice]

So the answer is "many things"

just depends on where they are

[wide kraken]

"make hard contact point not as hard"

[mystic pumice]

Yeah you can even make your own bugdet gasket mount

If you want CHEAP gasket mount that is

But it can do the trick

[normal schooner]

gatreon bad

[mystic pumice]

K

Depends on who you are

Very much subjective

[normal schooner]

a wooting customer

[mystic pumice]

I don't like most Gateron switches but the Jades are pretty good

[normal schooner]

[honest flume]

https://www.amazon.com/GATERON-Magnetic-Pre-lubed-Pre-Travel-Mechanical/dp/B0CQXGTJWG

is this page legit?

its off amazon, just wanna make sure I dont get a fake

[stray tiger]

I cant vouch for it but if its on Amazon you are pretty protected

[wide kraken]

weird that Gateron as a seller would only have 4 ratings, but worst case you just return

[harsh dove]

My New PBT Set

[honest flume]

how would i tell if they are fakes or not?

[stray tiger]

Its extremely unlikely there are fake Jades floating around. There just arent any manufacturers to do it

[mystic pumice]

And fakes most likely would not factory lube them

[harsh dove]

Not fake

[honest flume]

Okay thanks guys ima order em rn

should i get any stabs as well? or default stabs okay? im putting them on the 60he+

[mystic pumice]

No need

Only if you have some low quality keycaps

which may have trouble locking on to the stabs on the spacebar

But that would be a keycap problem, not a stabilizer problem

[harsh dove]

Brightened it up a bit

[quiet bay]

yoo that's clean

what set is that?

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/its-classified-tom-cruise-classified-private-secret-gif-9579704

[quiet bay]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-cat-meme-meme-meme-cat-gif-14470917232397934693

[mystic pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-annoyed-cat-symm-annoyed-cat-gif-2854085661560673382

[minor pond]

IV Works Ashes?

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-stiller-hand-gesture-shh-hush-gif-15857614

[minor pond]

Lol

[mystic pumice]

Thx imma buy it at some point

Looks sick

No idea why Cam is so secret about it... Kinda weird if you ask me

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-boy-walk-away-cry-man-tears-gif-392054591380143077

[minor pond]

I’m not gonna be seen for a week

[heady terrace]

is it worth to buy jades if you have raptor frankens

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/kidnap-ready-to-go-ready-packing-revenge-gif-14345059

[harsh dove]

Not really unless you're going for a specific sound

[minor pond]

I like the stock raptors better

[mystic pumice]

Will the IV Ashes fit on my stock 60he with Jades?

[harsh dove]

its not weird, its secret
https://iv-works.com/ashes/

[harsh dove]

Yeah

I'm using them on jades

[quiet bay]

he wants to gatekeep it so that his keyboard is more special xddd

[minor pond]

All he had to was screenshot and do photo search

[quiet bay]

although it's already special because its in a salvation 😭

[harsh dove]

lol yeah

[mystic pumice]

It weird when the stuff you buy is publicly available but you won't say your setup because you want to be the only one with that setup or something like that

[quiet bay]

im waiting for cerakeys to drop their white crazed

[mystic pumice]

Its not like you are under an NDA

[quiet bay]

and then I might buy them 👀

to put on my wooting

[minor pond]

Gatekeeping 💯

[harsh dove]

Lol yeah I feel you, I don't usually gatekeep, I was just messing around cause this set was recommended to me and most peeps don't know this set

[quiet bay]

actually Cam will you ever try out cerakeys?

kinda curious how they'd sound on your wooting

[harsh dove]

Idk maybe one day

[mystic pumice]

All it does is it wanna make me not ask you for your setups in the future if you are going to be a dick about it but alright

[harsh dove]

Lol I wasn't tryna to come off as a dick, just joking around

[mystic pumice]

I know that know but I did not know at the start

[harsh dove]

Yeah fair enough man, no hard feelings

[mystic pumice]

I honestly also wanted to know what keycaps they where but I was just met with a "no"

[quiet bay]

IV Works got some nice ass keycap sets tho

and they're not group buys

[minor pond]

I’ll only gatekeep food places

[quiet bay]

valid

[mystic pumice]

Anyone know of some good keycaps that also come in ISO Nordic layout?

[fluid ravine]

I'm home 😀

[quiet bay]

helo

[quiet bay]

uhhh gmk blot?

[fluid ravine]

Hiii pochiii

[quiet bay]

actually

idk if it's actually even nordicl ayout

[quiet bay]

yezz

[fluid ravine]

Say Hi >:(

[quiet bay]

ok Hi

[fluid ravine]

[mystic pumice]

omg I love the fact there are Norse runes with that set

[quiet bay]

hella expensive tho cause it's GMK

[median spade]

GMK best

[stray otter]

DMK>GMK

[mystic pumice]

I find it stupid that they do sell the ISO buttons with the base kit but not the ÆØÅ letters that we use in Scandinavia... Those are a bundle of its own...

[quiet bay]

RIP

[mystic pumice]

[quiet bay]

and since it's GMK it's usually on a limited supply too so it's probably sold out

[mystic pumice]

Not base set

ÆØÅ set is sold out...

So I will probably go with IV-Works

[quiet bay]

ye probably just go with that

they sell nice keycaps

[mystic pumice]

and just use some of their custom print keycaps as my æøå

[median spade]

[harsh dove]

IV-Works > GMK

[median spade]

[harsh dove]

You seen my new set?

[mystic pumice]

Imagine stating something subjective as facts lmao

[harsh dove]

Nobody knows what they're talking about, $20 Amazon keycaps are goated

[median spade]

Yeah that black and grey above? Looks great

[harsh dove]

Yeah, thank you

[median spade]

GMK is objective best ABS tbh

Only thing better is OG double shots

[mystic pumice]

What is the difference between ABS and DS PBT and Sub-Dye PBT?

[median spade]

Injection process and plastic type

[quiet bay]

^

[mystic pumice]

Okay does not really tell me much

[harsh dove]

https://www.keyboard.university/100-courses/keycaps-101-ydy8j\

[median spade]

Yeah that will tell you everything

It’s great

[quiet bay]

personally

[median spade]

For caveman terms

[quiet bay]

my wallet likes subdyed pbt keycaps

[median spade]

ABS higher pitched

PBT lower pitched

[harsh dove]

Make sure its thick PBT tho

[median spade]

Yeah

[harsh dove]

Like this Ashes set is 1.55mm

[median spade]

I do have some tai hao ones from 2018 and they thin pbt

Very high pitched

[mystic pumice]

Is stock Wooting PBT good PBTs

?

[median spade]

Decent yeah

[mystic pumice]

I have them atm

[median spade]

Pretty standard OEM quality

[harsh dove]

They're decent, I don't like the texture personally

[mystic pumice]

I may get the same Iv Ashens as you

What kind where they again?

[harsh dove]

They are PBT as well

[mystic pumice]

Double shot or sub dye?

[median spade]

They should add “reverse dye sub very hard and fails most of the time”

[mystic pumice]

Nice cool thanks

[harsh dove]

Also vendor list

I bought directly from their site tho

[mystic pumice]

I may have to as well since MyKeyboards don't have any Iv works funny enough

[median spade]

My 60he has shine master GMK wob

[harsh dove]

shine master lol

[harsh dove]

My dualshot set is starting to shine a tiny bit too

not like that tho

[quiet bay]

I think ima just go Cerakeys lol

always shining but looks nice

[harsh dove]

Cerakeys already shiny

lol

[quiet bay]

hey

atleast it's consistent 😂

[median spade]

If I liked the I would get them

[mystic pumice]

It is ceramic so I hope it shines all the time or else you need to wash your fucking hands xD

[quiet bay]

would also be easy to clean for me

cause my finger sweat is grimy 😔

[harsh dove]

I wouldn't mind hearing them on Jades

[quiet bay]

i am very curious to how they would sound on my wooting

[mystic pumice]

You think they are compatible?

[harsh dove]

Yeah I'd think so

[mystic pumice]

I hope so

I may get those as well when blank white cerakeys are in stock

[harsh dove]

Would probably have to swap out spacebar spring for a heavier one

like 60g

[mystic pumice]

You have stock spring or modded? I have stock spring

[harsh dove]

on the Jades? Stock springs

which are 50g

[quiet bay]

i hab lekker60s

[mystic pumice]

Do you think I need different stabs for spacebar with Cerakeys?

[quiet bay]

no why

[glacial wind]

you'd need different springs

[mystic pumice]

Damn

[glacial wind]

cerakeys spacebar is heavy

[mystic pumice]

Maybe I won't be getting cerakeys then

Not until I learn how to mod

[glacial wind]

honestly cerakeys is a bit scary with the quality of their glued on stems

[harsh dove]

Their stems are glued on?

I had no idea

[mystic pumice]

I don't think they are glued anymore? They changed that a long time ago

[glacial wind]

seeing a lot of the photos online with the alignment issues for the price is not very appealing

[quiet bay]

spacebar should be fine on lekker60s

[mystic pumice]

I am not going back to lekkers

[quiet bay]

they can be good with uh...

[glacial wind]

how did they change it?

[quiet bay]

a good amount of modding

trust

[mystic pumice]

Idk lemme google

[quiet bay]

look at mine and thockson's wooting c:

[glacial wind]

v2 is the one where they changed it to glued on stems

v1 is non glued and it would wear down peoples switches and fall off

[quiet bay]

cuz the stem was pure ceramic

[glacial wind]

yeah, basically the glued on was what they changed to

[mystic pumice]

I think they changed it so instead of glued it is placed inside? I may be wrong tho

[harsh dove]

I just thought they had plastic stems tbh

On cerakeys

[quiet bay]

they do

on v2 cerakeys

[harsh dove]

Oh okay thought so

But they’re glued on or no?

[quiet bay]

I think they are

[mystic pumice]

Googled and yep they are

Shame

Going with Iv works then

[harsh dove]

Interesting

[quiet bay]

I do want to try out cerakeys anyways

[harsh dove]

Yeah I’d agree with Sno then lol

[quiet bay]

would be a pretty good fit for me

my keycaps are already smooth as hell

I don't need the bumps to know where my fingers are

[glacial wind]

i don't mind glued on if they were aligned well, but stuff like this is kind of not great for how expensive they are https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/192tphh/new_cerakey_v2_qa_issues/

[harsh dove]

This is 1 month ago too

Kinda worrisome

That’s pretty rough

[quiet bay]

damn

i do kind of need new keycap modifiers tho

my caps lock key, left shift key, and enter key have all broken their stems 💀

[quiet bay]

luckily I had another left shift keycap tho

[harsh dove]

At least they send out free replacements

[glacial wind]

i love my new game1989 keycaps, now I just need wooting to release a light mocha or cream 80he case

[harsh dove]

This is reassuring at least @quiet bay

[harsh dove]

Yeah I’d like a nice mocha cream case

[quiet bay]

yee

cant wait to see their white crazed

if I don't like their white crazed I'll just wait for white blanks to restock

[harsh dove]

Yeah I would want the blanks

[mystic pumice]

Are there any other types of blank white keycaps where the light from RGB can shine though like the cerakeys?

[quiet bay]

no idea

I only know cerakeys

[harsh dove]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/973203798/pom-keycap-white-keycap-transparent

[quiet bay]

oh right

[harsh dove]

I don’t know of any reputable brands that make them

[quiet bay]

completely forgot about pom keycaps

[harsh dove]

I know gloriouspbt has a set like that but it’s not blanks

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/glorious-polychroma-translucent-keycaps-rgb/6547954.p?

[mystic pumice]

Bestbuy is only NA

[harsh dove]

Yeah but just showing what I meant

I know you’re EU

[mystic pumice]

Gloriouses own website says ANSI only...

That is the worst part about being from EU

Trying to find ISO layout keycaps

Some include them. but most don't have ÆØÅ buttons

[harsh dove]

Oof yeah my bad

[harsh dove]

Yeah it’s hard to find sets with those included

[mystic pumice]

Even Iv works ashes have ISO buttons but not the Nordic ÆØÅ but I can probably just use some of the left overs with custom print on them for those instead

[mystic pumice]

https://oblotzky.industries/products/gmk-cyl-norde?variant=44609459814668 Found these but if I like thocky sounds should I be worried that these are ABS?

[stray tiger]

@harsh dove K Im back man. You free to help me with streaming test for a few?

[quiet bay]

u streaming? 😮

[stray tiger]

ABS is usually a little clackier than thiock PBT caps but if you want thock you should look at larger keycap profile than cherry

[mystic pumice]

I mostly just want different color keycaps

[stray tiger]

Yeah about to start testing audio and video in a few min while I swap switches on one of my older boards to the KS-20U dualk rails (peaches)

[mystic pumice]

But I like thock but don't wanna lose it

Not looking for more thock just keycaps

[stray tiger]

Then get the ones you like and enjoy em

[mystic pumice]

I have been looking for DAYS for keycaps that include nordic layout but these are the only ones I can find

And the colors is not really me either but I can't for the life of me find good keycaps with Nordic ISO

[quiet bay]

where? yt? twitch?

[mystic pumice]

ONLY these

but it is ABS which will reduce the thock and I only slightly like the Dolch color scheme but I may just have to bite the bullet

[quiet bay]

I mean...

you can always go ahead and get blanks

[stray tiger]

https://www.twitch.tv/thethockfather

[quiet bay]

😮

[mystic pumice]

I smoke too much weed to remember the different +´´¨¨''-., buttons in my head lmaoooooooo

[quiet bay]

rip

just nordic iso layout isn't that popular

ISO in general isn't popular

[mystic pumice]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN NOT POPULAR?????????????? IT IS REQUIRED TO SOME LANGUAGES????????????

[quiet bay]

NOONONONOI MEAN LIKE

not as many people

make specific iso layouts

[mystic pumice]

I know that lmao

I just thought you meant ISO was a niche thing when it is literally required to spell the Scandinavian languages properly

And many many more

[harsh dove]

Yessir

[stray tiger]

Sweet just started

[quiet bay]

@fluid ravine should hop in c;

[fluid ravine]

HUH

HOPPING WHAT

[quiet bay]

MAN IS STREAMING

testing

[marsh saffron]

Skill issue

[mystic pumice]

I mean over time I 100% would get used to it but it would be a learning curve

[marsh saffron]

I'm a pot head to but I don't really have much issues with that stuff

[mystic pumice]

I have ADHD and bad memory so my brain is all over the place

[marsh saffron]

Blanks would just be annoying for the occasional time to I need to look at my keyboard

Usually only an issue for me if I'm not sitting with my hands in the right position

[marsh saffron]

I've got a pretty good memory

[mystic pumice]

I used to as well but since a bad concussion from MMA a year ago my memory haven't been the same...

[marsh saffron]

Blanks are cool but I like the look of having legends more anyway

[marsh saffron]

Thankfully with all the wipe outs on dirt bike/skating I've never had a concussion

[mystic pumice]

Me too, especially with cool and unique legends

[mystic pumice]

I too skate but thankfully never got a head injury

Just broke my pinkie knuckle and a million twisted ancles

[marsh saffron]

If I didn't wear helmets when I was actually doing more crazy stuff I'd definitely have brain damage

[marsh saffron]

Broke every toe I have and my wrist

Fractured knee cap as well

Also a finger but that happened just from walking.....

[mystic pumice]

Lmao...

[quiet bay]

my first broken bone was me stubbing my pinky toe on the doorframe 💀

not technically broken but fractured

[mystic pumice]

I had a fractured orbital bone from my previous concussion

[sacred jay]

broke my left ankle from kicking my mom too hard when i was still inside, again when i was 4 and my brother jumped over me but my leg was up and it was like butter

[harsh dove]

Lubing Jades

[median spade]

I just got done soldering one of my mx boards myself

with switches that are also called jades

but if the different variety

[harsh dove]

Box jades?

[median spade]

Called WS jades

they got a metal insert in them sound so cool

[harsh dove]

Interesting

[median spade]

Idk if this even does them justice but yeah they slap

mods outside teh spacebar are a tad muted as it has the metal on the downstroke and then dampeners on the upsroke

so there is no upstroke noise

[harsh dove]

Sounds good

[fluid ravine]

oh yeahhhh

i like that

[median spade]

sounds so neat in person which mic doesn't capture the livelyness of them a bit

very satisfying

[wary anvil]

Just got some TX AP screw in stabs for my 60HE+, they fit great! :)

They also really do fix the upstroke / ticking sound

[polar girder]

Y'all seen the new lamzu HE keyboard?

silicone/abs keycaps and box stem HE switches

I wonder if one could buy a atlantis pro and a module and swap the switches and use the keycaps

[indigo oasis]

how do i make my wooting spacebar not rattly, ive bandaid modded it and lubed it its still rattly

[polar girder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxHb6CJc9V8

[static tendon]

Hey @harsh dove, for your salvation, did a screw driver for the screws/hardware come along with the keyboard?