🔧│keyboard_modding

[tawdry horizon]

Only concern I had is that I thought alumaze60 is a inferior case compared to tofu

[harsh dove]

All personal preference

[agile grove]

if anything its the other way around, but its literally just personal preference

[marsh saffron]

Yeah tofu is just a cheap metal box, but if you prefer that door wedge look id go with it

[tawdry horizon]

Then again it’s cheaper than alumaze I believe

[marsh saffron]

I'm gonna get alumaze and paint the gold accent

[marsh saffron]

Yeah it's a lot more simple, much less production time/cost

[agile grove]

as a tofu owner I can confirm, I got stabbed by one of the corners

[tawdry horizon]

Lul

[agile grove]

vinyl wrap would prob be better, doubt the paint would stick

[tawdry horizon]

I’ll stick with the alumaze60

🙂

[marsh saffron]

Id sand it down so it does

[tawdry horizon]

How to paint that?

[marsh saffron]

With paint

And a brush

[median spade]

it's a right of passage for owning one

[tawdry tree]

Just get old, then you won’t hear it anymore. 🤣

[strange blaze]

Guys does the gh60 wooden fit without sanding?

[bitter valve]

It doesn’t feel cheap tho, it’s not plastic. It’s also a perfect fit for the wooting wrist rest and more importantly, it’s symmetrical. But it’s all personal preference.

[marsh saffron]

cheap doesnt mean low quality

its a very basic box

its very easy to machine, making it cheaper than the alumaze

[bitter valve]

It’s minimalistic, yes

Eh, just adding my two cents here, not arguing

At the end of the day salvation is really the winner lol

[sour blade]

if you sand down the PC plate they will fit
up to the individual to decide if its worth it for the results
"almost perfect" is an accurate description

its a common fixable issue, up to you to decide if its worth the result, can just return them if you dont think its worth it

[untold wigeon]

Same 💀👌

[empty sinew]

can any of you explain me the diff between using the two optional standoffs that are mentioned for the alumaze60

whats the diff\benefits of using or not

the mid\space ones

[bronze grove]

Center one does literally nothing.

The one near spacebar helps keep the plate rigid and less flexible. I recommend installing that one (by hand, do not use tools to screw it in)

[empty sinew]

so the center one I can skip ok, this also recommended for the 60he+ module right?

[bronze grove]

Same thing.

[empty sinew]

and the o-ring stickers or how they are called, I place them on top of standoffs right?

[bitter valve]

Or on the PCB, up to you, I placed mine on the standoff

[empty sinew]

did you put them on each standoff?

[bronze grove]

One on each standoff.

[distant shale]

Does the geonworks frog mini plate compatible with the 60 HE + or I have to custom make one?

[marble shuttle]

which plate ? depends but you have to make custom plate for frog mini

[distant shale]

What’s the difference between the custom one and the plate from geonworks

[raven osprey]

I plan to finally give in and get into the wooting custom scene. I tempted to buy the modules and jade switches and probably redux case is there anything else i need or recommend as a first time builder?

Nevermind I see the modding faq

[marble shuttle]

send photo

in barebone kit it isnt compatable because that plate has 2 stab positions wooting has 3

[empty sinew]

anybody uses poron instead included sillicon sandwich plate for the module?

is there any advantages

[bronze grove]

It's just a different sound profile.

[empty sinew]

is there any videos of sound differences?

[median spade]

No you need a custom one made

[empty sinew]

tried checking around and can't find much

[lofty needle]

Poron sounds better

Trust

[empty sinew]

hmm

really?

isn't poron default on the 60he assembled?

[viral mesa]

any key cap recs for side printed ones that allow rgb? i know the rgb will be muted since the leds are north facing and the side prints are south

[median spade]

It’s preference between the two plate inserts

Silicone is more muted but makes it higher pitched at same time

[agile grove]

no

[median spade]

Poron is deeper

[uncut musk]

on the fully built 60he they use the Poron

[slow iris]

Gonna paste here also:

Im curious if the stabilizators on the 60he are shorter or something? I already tried like 2 keycaps sets and the spacebar keeps falling out

So i have 3 keycap sets, all cherry profile. One of them fits well and the spacebar does not fall out from the stabs, and the other 2 sets the spacebar keeps falling out (out of these 2 one is a random china aliexpress set and other is an original jtk yolch)

[bronze grove]

Deleted the other one. Please pick a lane and stay in it. 🙂

[agile grove]

the stabs should be standard, sounds like a keycap issue rather than a stab issue

unless your stabs arent sitting right

but if it works with one keycap set and not the other its probably a keycap issue

or you're just not putting the keycaps on right

[tawdry tree]

You’d need really high quality keycaps to make that work and afaik there aren’t any like that. The cheap ones which are doubleshot PBT allow little to no light through.

[tawdry tree]

If Wooting’s stock keycap falls out then it’s a stab issue and if it does not it’s a keycap issue.

[viral mesa]

ahh good to know thank you!!... any resources u can poitn my direction for exploring top tier, boutique key caps?

idk if it exists.. but looking for something that has like a sand/bead blasted texture that doesnt pick up oils much

[stable kindle]

compared to most on here i might be considered old lol

there a desktop mat you guys like? instead of a extra large mouse pad im thinking about getting a larger desk mat and a smaller mouse pad

[stray tiger]

I'm sure I have you beat on the age. What size deskmat are you looking for?

Ive got a few that are almost full desk size, like 65" x 28" and then some that are the standard 1000mm x 500mm

[gaunt linden]

Where did you buy them?

[stray tiger]

The desk size one or the 1000mm x 500mm?

[devout torrent]

lethal sells most of their pads in a 1000x500mm size and even 1200x550

[thick mural]

i have a glass deskpad lol

[stray tiger]

Yeah any of the lethal ones like the Saturn / S Pro, etc you can get in 1000 x 500 but if youre ok with 900mm x 400mm thats the standard deskpad size for the GMK matching pads and most artisan pads. You can see some here for example https://novelkeys.com/collections/deskpads

I think I have about 30 pads or more in the 900 x 400 size

[wet hazel]

Mmm the magnetic jades are on sale on Ali for 43 euros, I don't know if It'll better to buy them now or wait for the 2.0 and other HE releases. I want a more thocky/kind of silent switch and Jades seem to be louder than lekkers

[harsh dove]

If you’re not keen on the jades sound I’d just wait

[lapis stump]

I just switched the silicone foam with the poron for my jades. And they honestly sound better, fuller, less pingy. But still clacky, took off my 2 layers of tape mod

Can't wait to see how gummy oring is going to affect it further

[bitter valve]

Lubed top housing + tape on the magnet in jades, sorbothane in heavy alu case. Makes it quieter than my old ducky with silent reds.

[agile grove]

gummy mount had no ping for me, even with no polyfill or any other sound dampener

[bitter valve]

Not by much, since it’s mostly just friction mount, not true gasket. Will reduce vibrations tho.

[harsh dove]

I find the gummy mount to change sound quite a bit personally

[bitter valve]

Hmm, maybe that’s my build then

[harsh dove]

Tested in my alumaze and salvation at least

[bitter valve]

I know sorbothane eliminates a lot of sound

[lapis stump]

I guess it depends on the hardness lvl too what # was yours

[harsh dove]

40A

Yeah lots of variables

But just how I felt personally

Lot more consistent forsure

[lapis stump]

With 40 vs tray mount what was different for you

[agile grove]

compared to my friends wooting, each row sounds pretty consistent

[harsh dove]

Overall sound is more consistent vs tray mount, you have dead spots near the screws

So you get inconsistent sounds

[agile grove]

like no ping

[lapis stump]

Yeah the ping is what gets me. Glad it gets resolved

[lapis stump]

Did you get a chance to test a 65a or are you getting those today from what I recall?

[wet hazel]

Thanks for the tip! I'm WFH and appreciate a little less noise, at least in the early hours on the morning

[bitter valve]

Yeah, I’m the same way, can’t really handle loud keyboards. This one makes me want to type.

[wet hazel]

This one is a huge upgrade compared to the scratchy Anne Pro 2 with kailh box browns that I had before so no complains

[bitter valve]

Oh yeah, enjoy!

[wet hazel]

Btw if I make that mod, it's medical (or other) tape inside the magnet or outside below the plastic bottom?

[bitter valve]

That’s what I did

[agile grove]

whould that do anything on lekkers?

[bitter valve]

Took time tho, and definitely pain in the ass to cut every single one, but imo worth it

[agile grove]

I mean theres a hole there

[bitter valve]

Open bottom, so I don’t think so

Lubed top housing will definitely help on lekkers

Oh, I also used 60g springs in mine

[wet hazel]

Well I already invest like 3 hours lubbing all the switches

I don't dislike this kind of works that serve a purpose or improve things

[bitter valve]

It’s okay, I spent three evenings fucking around with stabs lol

[wet hazel]

I mean if there was 0 improvement I would be very upset, but that was not the case

Oh well, the stabs, I have 3 of them that sound different, more clacky/metallic

If I open the case another time I'll lube and add more polyfill if that matters

[bitter valve]

I’d suggest you try the mod on 3-5 switches and decide if you like the change, then go for the rest

[bitter valve]

I used sorbothane, instead, so won’t be able to say much, but Thockson here put a whole lot of polyfill in his

[wet hazel]

Yup I saw the picture, compared to Thockson I have like 1/4 that amount of polyfill

But the wooting foam+ linen tofu, so not a lot of room for more

[bitter valve]

For top housing I also lubed rails on all 4 sides, if that makes sense

[wet hazel]

If I want the USB to keep matching the hole

[median spade]

this must have been so tedious sheesh

[agile grove]

nice thing about polyfill is that it compresses, esp with gummy mount

my 60he is almost perfectly lined up in my redux and has a stupid amount of polyfill in it

[bitter valve]

It was, but honestly took less/same amount of time as lubing. I did buy a new pair of relatively small scissors just for that, and extremely happy with the result. Harsh bottom out sound is pretty much gone.

[wet hazel]

I tried gummy mounting for like 30 minutes applying pressure but no way with the stock screw in stabs

I know that those were not compatible but I had the gummy bought already

Maybe the 'slim' one that appeared some days ago

[agile grove]

the new graveshift small is compatible with stock stabs

[cyan adder]

Okay thanks @harsh dove u make me take my decision now it’s ordered

Let’s just hope my spacebar keycap will fit fine so I won’t have to swap stabs

[harsh dove]

Getting them today and currently at work, gotta wait till I get home

[harsh dove]

You ordering these for sound?

[cyan adder]

Sound, feel, everything

Closed bottom most likely

[harsh dove]

Kk

Just making sure

[agile grove]

jeez everyone is getting the orange role lmao

[wet hazel]

For that price it's a good deal

Also the shipment was free

Ordered them too, if I can make those a little bit silent as GinOx said

[cyan adder]

Could be, but i took premium fastest shipping so I paid 7€

Extra

[wet hazel]

Ah I bought them from Ali

[cyan adder]

Same

I took aliexpress premium shipping ahah

[wet hazel]

Aaah okey, though that was Gateron's official store

[agile grove]

im temped to buy the jades but I know better switches will come out this year

[cyan adder]

I would but they are on hold since it’s Chinese new year

Can’t wait more / aliexpress was way cheaper

[agile grove]

the shorter travel distance is sorta a deal breaker, and the sound just isnt really my thing

[wet hazel]

4-8 March estimated for the free delivery

[cyan adder]

Too long

[harsh dove]

Yeah if you don’t care for the sound and the shorter travel bothers you I’d just wait or try KS20u

[wet hazel]

I don't know how that will feel on typing/games

Maybe putting O-Rings can simulate that short distance?

I have lots of them without use

[agile grove]

im good on the KS-20us too, the lekker wobble doesnt bother me and they just kinda sound like lekkers so I dont see a point in gettin in. im good on waiting tho, that way I'll have more options. im mainly looking for my forever switch that I would be happy with even if something better came out.

[ruby belfry]

are cerakeys too heavy for the gateron jades. anyone know

[harsh dove]

Yeah they only have no wobble, sound is similar

I think my alumaze made them sound marbly

With mods

Cause they don’t sound marbly in my salvation

[harsh dove]

Most likely for the spacebar

[ruby belfry]

fook

tryna make my jades more marbly

[harsh dove]

Gaming with cerakeys is a sin

[ruby belfry]

yeah true LMFAO

lubing takes so long

my fingers were dying

mf

[static tendon]

Hey @stray tiger are you by any chance on today, had a quick question

[stray tiger]

Im always on (well 7am-10pm MST)

[static tendon]

We previously spoke about my wooting not drawing enough power possibly due to my usb switch

I purchased this one here, and before taking apart some cables here, do you think this would possibly help with that power issue?
It has an external power cable as well
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0C5WMSRSC?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_image

[stray tiger]

I dont have any experience with that one (and really not with KVM's in general) but I do know that using powered USB hubs vs non-powered has been the difference between working and not working, so I like the idea of the KVM also being powered.

[static tendon]

Sounds good I’ll give it a shot and update back here. Appreciate the help and recommendation on the externally powered usb switch. I feel like this will fix the issue

[stray tiger]

Thanks and keep us posted! I hope it helps.

[static tendon]

Took a while to get it set up here but it is working. I even have 100% brightness and Tachyon mode enabled. I'll keep an eye out on it to make sure no weird inputs but so far so good

[stray tiger]

That's great news.

[static tendon]

Yeah for sure! It's pretty neat to see it fully functional 😎

[median spade]

10% brightness on one key to let mek now that i activated tachyon mode gang

[lapis stump]

@harsh dove when you used the 40a gummy o ring did you have the silicone or poron plate foam? use any case foam?

[median spade]

works with poron foam, but not the silicone

silicone too firm to allow for it

[lapis stump]

yeah makes sense, glad i switched already

[harsh dove]

Me

On esc

[median spade]

literally the exact same

[harsh dove]

Lmao

[wide kraken]

any chance there's a compilation of "known good" coiled cables for tachyon+higher LED brightness out there? so far aside from the official one, seeing gunmjo and cablemod pro cables appear to work?

[shell crown]

<3m

<=3m basicay

basicay

basically

[wide kraken]

ah okay

[tired niche]

does this mean they're 37g springs?

[harsh dove]

That’s starting force

They don’t list end force

Which is 50g

If you look at the KS20u

It’s the same

[tired niche]

got it so this is pretty much the lowest springs you could get on the market

was just looking at these

[harsh dove]

“Gareron”

[tired niche]

hahaha

[harsh dove]

And yes they are basically

[wet hazel]

28g springs damm

[tired niche]

oops

sorry damn i even missed that

[wet hazel]

lol

[tired niche]

but damn

[harsh dove]

Yeah there’s lighter springs lol

[tired niche]

that's super light

[wet hazel]

I mean the L45 are already light

[tired niche]

seller cant even organize spring rate by order

yeah i dont think there is a need for an even lighter spring

i think the 37g is pretty reasonable compared to the 60g

i did not like how much effort it took to press 60g

but i could understand there are people who play racing game who would benefit from higher spring rate for better actuation control

[harsh dove]

S Rings are in for testing

[stable kindle]

@stray tiger 1000mm x 500mm sounds about good, a little bigger would be ok too. my current mouse pad is 900mmx420mm

[stable kindle]

awesome, thanks for doing that.

[agile grove]

37g is the start force of that switch, 60g is the bottom out force of the L60s.

you're comparing the wrong numbers here

the L60s start at 40g, which is only 3g higher

[harsh dove]

Yeah start force of l60 is 40g

L45s is around 30 give or take

For starting

[tired niche]

oh wth

[harsh dove]

Sorry 30

[stable kindle]

what about the jades? you stilll consider them #1 as of today?

[harsh dove]

Yes

For me personally

[agile grove]

wooting is coming out with the spring pack with even lighter springs

so if you're willing to open your switches

[stable kindle]

the stem wobble isnt significantly better than the jades?

[harsh dove]

Well jades barely have any to begin with

But the KS20u almost removes it completely

[agile grove]

ks-20us have effectively no wobble, while jades still have a very small amount of wobble. the jades is so small that its not noticeable unless you are trying to see the wobble.

[stable kindle]

gotcha, but sound and feel on the jades are better im guessin

[harsh dove]

Obviously there’s going to be some wiggle room because if you have a 0:0 tolerance, you just have a ton of friction so you need a little tiny bit of wiggle room to move freely

[agile grove]

the feel is probably worse, but the sound is better

[harsh dove]

Yes

I like the feel of KS20u nothing wrong there

But sound is similar to Lekkers

[stable kindle]

gotcha

[median spade]

[harsh dove]

Mx meme

[tired niche]

they would sound similar to lekker because they have an open bottom

just like the lekker

[harsh dove]

Yeah

And Gateron refuses to use a different top housing for HE switches

[stable kindle]

o i see the jades right now on amazon, i see that the bottom are closed

[harsh dove]

Yeah which equates to 3.5mm travel

[agile grove]

I wonder if we're ever gonna get a good sounding open bottom HE switches

[harsh dove]

Instead of 4mm

[tired niche]

opening the bottom will rid of a lot of sound

[bitter valve]

With changed top housing maybe

[tired niche]

the sound could escape the switches

[agile grove]

which wootility to my knowledge supports now, but personally I wouldnt recommend it for gaming

[agile grove]

prob yeah, but they wanna appeal to gamers

[harsh dove]

I have no issues with it for gaming

It’s basically faster bottom out

Like trigger stops on a controller

[bitter valve]

It depends on where you are coming from. Any he is better than classic switch for gaming

[agile grove]

I more meant for something like DKS and analog features

[stable kindle]

interesting. another $60 for the switches and $10 for the o-ring hmmmmmm

[agile grove]

if you dont use those you're probably fine tbh, but it could be a little odd bottoming out quicker

[stable kindle]

do you still screw down the pcb to the case with the o-ring mount?

[harsh dove]

Yeah for those it can be limiting but I think that’s also being worked on

[bitter valve]

Nop

[harsh dove]

I don’t play apex or anything like that so I don’t use DKS personally

Don’t need to super slide or whatever tf they do nowadays lol

[harsh dove]

Anymore*

[agile grove]

no... thats the entire point of the o-ring mount

[tired niche]

so the pic of spring rate i posted earlier

those are all bottom out forces

[harsh dove]

I haven’t looked into this myself

But someone said it works now

[tired niche]

since the lekker 40 is 45g
jades are 50g?

[harsh dove]

With jades

[tired niche]

anyone here tried both the lekker40 and jade switches?

[harsh dove]

Yeah I have both

[tired niche]

do you have issues with fingers resting and accidentally hitting with the lekker40?

[bitter valve]

I put 60g springs in jades lol

[harsh dove]

If my actuation is set super low then yeah

Like 0.3mm

[azure jacinth]

I've been using the jades with the 0.1 actuation and only really catch myself hitting the space bar accidentally when resting my hand on the kb

[potent wedge]

Color jades ?

White red ... ?

[harsh dove]

I use 0.3mm on WASD, 1.2 on everything else and 2.0 - 3.5 on a couple keys

[harsh dove]

What do you mean?

[potent wedge]

What is the color of the switch?

[harsh dove]

White and teal green

Like a jade stone

[potent wedge]

Thanks

[tired niche]

hmmm might order some 42g 45g to try

36g seems wayyyy too senstiive for this keyboard

[harsh dove]

https://mechkeys.com/products/gateron-magnetic-jade-switch

[tired niche]

@harsh dove based on your experience with lekker40 and jade... how much lighter would you put the lekker40?

im just trying to gauge it

[harsh dove]

They’re pretty light, jades are ever so slightly lighter than Geon Raptors which end force is 52g

[tired niche]

okay i think im going to give 45g springs a try

[sinful copper]

where can i get lighter springs

[tired niche]

im just looking for something that is a bit lighter than stock on the jades

[tired niche]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806086739065.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0.56af1caeUi4Rui&mp=1&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa

just purchased 42g 45g to try both

[agile grove]

the wooting switch pack which is coming soon™️

[tired niche]

see which ones i like better

[tired niche]

they've been saying that since 1999

they cant get together with some chinese supplier to work on a bag?

come on now

lol

not everything needs a wait time

[sinful copper]

lmfao they uised to sell springs too

should i go 36g or that overkill

[agile grove]

they've been saying that for like 2 months relax

[tired niche]

36g seems over kill vs lekker60 (60g) and lekker40 (45g). jade are undisclosed but we're guessing it's around 50g.

[stray otter]

Basically the same thing

[agile grove]

because they want to be assured of the quality of their product?

[sinful copper]

is thje 60he 60 or 45g

[agile grove]

pretty sure they actually had some issues in the past with their springs being magnetic

[agile grove]

L60s

so 60g

[sinful copper]

dayum

[tired niche]

they are just shopping off the current supply available springs. they are not going to be able to sell enough for the manufacturer to make something custom just for them...

unless they were going to use it in another switch that they could sell you for $40

[agile grove]

fs, but working on packaging can take a long time

and setting up a deal with said manufacturer

[agile grove]

its not as simple as buying some springs from someone and then slapping it in a cardboard box

[agile grove]

they dont sell or make those anymore

[sinful copper]

yeah

[radiant dagger]

mekanisk klippe t + gmk fuji + 60he+ module

sound test recorded w blue snowball - mods: hand lube l45 lekkers, tempest tape mod, burger screw mount, polyfill, tape mod stabs

[sinful copper]

holy

[bitter valve]

need a desk mat for sure, but good sound overall. Respect for chipotle napkins lol

I cant record a decent sound test because my iphone is boosting sound to the oblivion

[agile grove]

my iphone makes everything sound so muted

do you have a dualsense controller?

use that as a mic

[bitter valve]

I have an xbox elite one that I haven't touched in ages lol
Might try that , or my razer seiren, but not expecting much from both

Good idea tho, thanks!

[teal parcel]

When we switch to the “rapid profile” and tachyon mode is on how do i actually know it’s on and working? I read somewhere someone was having issues with their power wire?

[bitter valve]

You can probably just see in-game if any weird movements or random key presses are happening. Not sure how to scientifically test it tho.

[median spade]

it's almost like these will be almost the same springs they are going to sell

since they're just gateron springs

[marsh saffron]

If you use stock cable it's fine

The power issues only occur if you have cheap/low quality cables

Coiled cables especially have issues(wooting sells one that is guaranteed to work fine)

[static tendon]

@stray tiger as an update, still no issues so far with the externally powered USB switch. I'll do some more testing on my laptop sometime tomorrow but it's been great. Tachyon mode with 100% brightness. No issues at all 🙂

[stray tiger]

Yeah with 100% brightness it pulls quite a bit of power. Add in an unpowered hub, switch or kvm and they might just pull enough extra power to cause problems

[raven osprey]

these are needed right?

[agile grove]

no

[fluid ravine]

optional

[static tendon]

Yeah for sure, but even at 40% brightness previously without the powered USB switch, I had weird inputs randomly activate. Adding the USB switch has solved everything and allows me to keep max brightness 🤯

[bitter valve]

There’s LED fx for RT, just found out.

[uncut musk]

O-Ring should get here friday

[rigid patrol]

tried out the Magnetic Jade Switches (Stock) and it is quite nice!

PC Plate, Keebtaped

[sick drum]

how the wrist rest works? is it stick to it?

[radiant dagger]

its really nice but its not magnetic or anything so it doesnt stick

[strange blaze]

Should i pull the two white stickers off or will it damage the pcb in any way

[austere creek]

unsure why youd remove them

they are for identification purposes if we receive a pcb back for rma

[strange blaze]

Oh true, my dumbass didnt think of reading what even was on them💀

[austere creek]

just tapemod over it since tapemod shouldnt be non removable anyway so the stickers shouldnt get damaged either

[strange blaze]

Yep exactly what im doing rn

[tawdry tree]

It wouldn’t work. From what I can tell its size, layout and mounting is different. There are also no cases that I know of specifically made for the 2HE which is required as the 2HE does not fit in any “standard” case.

[obsidian dagger]

uuh

[uncut axle]

F

[obsidian dagger]

what was that

[uncut axle]

me testing keyboard and forget was in discord

[bronze grove]

Thing is - There's already a german company working on a 2HE metal case.

It is not an easy task. You need lots of expensive prototyping to turn a plastic case into metal.

[true patrol]

needed a frog mini 60he plate and I’m waiting on a pc one to come in the mail. decided to try this and…I’m genuinely astounded this print worked on the first try

I still want to use other mats, pla plate is….Not Good™️

But it’s definitely useable

[agile grove]

they wanted to do wood

[bronze grove]

Ahh.. Wood is even more tricky.

[agile grove]

yeah wood is not easy

[strange blaze]

Guys what are these for

[true patrol]

they are extra mounting screws for securing the board to the case, just in case you lose the others

[agile grove]

@untold wigeon they have all their files on their github, so you can use these for dimensions and such. just note that it will be wildly expensive to get someone to make such a large wooden case.

[true patrol]

what does this have to do with wooting lol

[agile grove]

I dont see how this is on topic or worse than north korea

[true patrol]

I mean discord is a trash company and this app has gotten consistently less usable, but this is a keyboard discord my guy

[strange blaze]

Well i bought a wooden case so should i use the ones that came with the case or the module ones

[lofty needle]

I like not having numbers after my name

[true patrol]

You should use the ones that came with the case

[lofty needle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[strange blaze]

K thx

[lofty needle]

Yes i do?

[agile grove]

its literally just a username, I fail to see how this is worse than north korea or on topic

if you want to complain about discord either go in #💬│general or a different server, this is not the place at all

[lofty needle]

I also have an old discord account so I got my name lmao

[true patrol]

Username change is literally not even the worst thing discord did this month, lets ignore and move on

[lofty needle]

U rite i wont engage further

[agile grove]

im not

just dont want this chat to be filled with random stuff about discord

then... dont use it

[true patrol]

yeah but he’s a mediocre troll at best, talking to him is just going to make him post more, these kids just want attention

[agile grove]

true

I am, yes

[lofty needle]

on a seperate note I dont know what to do further with my wooting

I think im good on everything for now

[true patrol]

time to get a second one then and start trying other stuff with it :)

I genuinely want to get a module so I can use good stabs, I have the 60he and those plate mount stabs are…bleh

[lofty needle]

I dont think im gonna get a 2nd HE keyboard

I only need one keyboard to game on lmao

[agile grove]

buy another one and do the opposite build

[true patrol]

Yeah that’s fair if I get a 60he+ I would get rid of the 60he, but it’s far from my only custom

[lofty needle]

I think im just gonna get a new keyboard for work and fuck around with it next

[true patrol]

I have neo80 coming for work, gonna build it with those gateron melodics

[agile grove]

75% is probably the best layout for general use, 60% for gaming all the way

[lofty needle]

im prob gonna get a 96 for work because i use the numpad

[agile grove]

you could get a separate numpad

[true patrol]

actually considering a separate numpad for mmo stuff, would use the numpad from the keys I have on the wooting right now so they match

[lofty needle]

Yea, i could get a separate numpad. Bit more expensive than just getting a beeg keyboard tho

Might just get a keychron for work then upgrade it whenever

I love my 60HE+ for home tho

[agile grove]

its not the PCB that has issues, its the plate

[strange blaze]

Oh

Lemme try then

[agile grove]

you wont know until you put the plate back on with a switch and a keycap

[strange blaze]

Oh

Well

Deleting that then

[strange blaze]

Nvm they do not fit

Well gonna go with stock stabs then

Might use them for a future build

[agile grove]

stock stabs are great tbh

if they sound bad just tune and balance them

[valid sun]

The spacebar seems... Weird ?
Idk how to explain but is feels out of place somehow

[untold wigeon]

hahaha

I turned it

Is more natural for me

[valid sun]

Ah I knew something was off lmao

[strange blaze]

Do you think i should maybe use the o-rings that come with the staebies screws or would that be unnecessary

[agile grove]

thats probably unnecessary

[stray tiger]

Boog75 initial sound test. Will have a full review up on stream in the next few days. Initial thoughts are that the alphas sound pretty good out of the box. Similar to the KS-20U's (which makes sense as they are the same switch but with a different magnet). Stabs are horrendous but I feel that way about a lot of stock stabs so I dont hold that against them. Software is going to take some getting used to, Wootility has spoiled me for sure. All in all gasket mounting is a nice touch and it makes me even more excited for the 80HE.

[agile grove]

those stabs suck dear lord lol. sounds pretty clacky.

[cunning nimbus]

Swapped out the Raptor HE’s for the Jades and I feel like they definitely sound better but feel slightly mushy. Anybody else have this experience?

[somber inlet]

Has anyone attempted making attachable modules for the Two HE

ie like snap on XLR/Headphone mixer or Stream Deck attachment?

[agile grove]

dont think so

all the case files and dimensions are on their github if you were interesting in making one yourself

[somber inlet]

was thinking how nice having a mixer for all of my audio tracks, maybe a mod switch for switching between what i hear and my stream

maybe an additional stream deck on the side for other useful things so i dont have to make my own

and for good measure maybe a DAC passthrough for headphones?

[quiet bay]

spacebar kind of reminds me of a membrane spacebar

the sound is alright

[stray tiger]

The stabs definitely need a lot of work. I wouldn't be surprised if the ones that went out to streamers were hand lubed in advanced because every one of the stabs sound bad. That being said the alphas do sound good for stock

[median spade]

Dats p good

also where you get that cable

I like it

[harsh dove]

KS20u felt mushy for me but not the jades

[unborn yarrow]

Do I need to adjust anything in Wootility if I switch to Jades?

[harsh dove]

If he told you, we’d have to kill you

[polar girder]

Pretty sure thock daddy rocks the wired in cables

https://wiredinstore.com

[dark quest]

That's crazy how much worse it sounds than all the review samples.

[harsh dove]

Now we have to kill you too

[polar girder]

I been dead

🤪

[lapis stump]

@harsh dove hey how did the o ring tests go?

[median spade]

Sound tests can only be taken with so much objectivity

as someone who does them alot there is so many factors

Room, dampening in the room, is your desk on carpet, is the room all wood floors, etc etc

I type at my personal pc all my keyboards are very muted and quiet as i have very thick carpet in my room, and lots of furniture so sound is soaked up. I type on my work desk in my kitchen area with hard wood floors and more open space it's more high pitched and sound resonating through the room etc

As far as the osund test though it's spot on with some others I heard personally

[harsh dove]

Haven’t done it yet

[proper patio]

Hello, idk much about anything when it comes to modding, but is there a specific type of keycap I should look out for if I wanna change them? There's a few I'd like to try but ive heard there's different profiles? Which I'm assuming is the height/size of the keycap

[harsh dove]

https://www.keyboard.university/100-courses/keycaps-101-ydy8j

[formal tapir]

little boy

[granite blaze]

where to buy tofu redux internal brass weight for cheapest lmao

[uncut musk]

it will be 25 basically everywhere but cheapest shipping prob depends on what country you live in

for NA id get it from KBD Fans ali store

[strange blaze]

Btw, just saying my staebies also didnt fit, so im pretty sure they just dont fit at all on any wooting

[uncut musk]

shipping on it is like 7 bucks vs like the 20 on KBD fans store

[stray tiger]

I havent heard of anyone being successful with them yet so thats good to know.

[strange blaze]

Yep, they are basically just not compatible, good to know that now after trying them myself, will probably just use em on a future build and go with stock for my wooting

[uncut musk]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806297142149.html

whenever i order stuff from their ali store gets to me in like 8-10 days

[bitter valve]

Also, don’t spam across multiple channels

[stray tiger]

I even think that things like microphone and audio processing are even more important.

For full disclosure that was recorded using a Sennheiser MKE 600 microphone pointed straight down at the keyboard from exactly 24" above with no audio processing at all.

[harsh dove]

Yeah that’s why I always say to take sound test with a grain of salt

[bitter valve]

Any suggestions for a coiled cable that would machine space grey case?

[harsh dove]

Mic, room acoustics , desk acoustics , mods to keyboard, any audio filters etc

[median spade]

Indeed, like when I make my sound tests they are as accurate as possible to what I hear

but that's in my room and my setup

[harsh dove]

Even something as simple as a desk mat/keeb mat can make a difference or carpet vs wooden floors or a thick butcher block desk vs an ikea desk

[proper patio]

Oh thank you I will read this and ask any silly questions I have after

[median spade]

Yep that’s what I was saying above haha

Boards in my room quiet, boards at my desk with hard wood floors much louder

[polar girder]

Ali express I think

[harsh dove]

Hope everyone having a good day

[polar girder]

Same 2 u bro

Thx

[fluid storm]

do screw in stabs not block o ring from pushing into case?

[stray tiger]

They do, that's why he is using plate mount

[fluid storm]

Ah, right. didnt see

misread

[old swallow]

i mean, its always plate mounted right? he just doesnt have the foam/silicone

[stray tiger]

I'm not clear on the question

[old swallow]

oh wait, i read the text wrong. i tought you were talking about switches being plate mount, which it always is. but you were talking about plate mount stabs

[static tendon]

Day 2 of max brightness and tachyon mode enabled with no issues 🔥

[stray tiger]

At this point I would consider it solved!

[static tendon]

Yep! I even re-did all my cables to have that USB switch stick around for a while 🙂 Thanks @stray tiger!

[fluid ravine]

Jades released on amazon!?!

bettt

[quiet bay]

yay....67 dollars

not including tax

[fluid ravine]

its $71 with tax and free shipping for me

[median spade]

they learned from their partnership with zeal 🔥 🔥🔥

$1 per switch

[bitter valve]

And you need to spring swap them additionally if you prefer your switches heavier lol

[median spade]

the life and times

[paper bloom]

Aliexpress its cheaper by a bit

[raven osprey]

okay this my first time building a keyboard and need yall opinion if yall think i should grab anything else? currently i already order 60he+ module/ tofu meteorite gray case w/brass plate/linear45 switches/8008 switches/burger mount oring.

[median spade]

afaik there isnt' a brass plate for wooting rn

unless you have one custom cut

[cinder merlin]

lube

[raven osprey]

@median spade it’s just a brass weight thing that’s a add on from tofu redux case

[paper bloom]

I run the tofu 60 redux the module 60HE

With a brass weight with silicone standoff's from Kbdfans

Ur build is good, But if u want u can run jades but check #🪛│modding_faq Before making an information desicion

[median spade]

yeah thatg's a weight ant not a plate

big difference

[tired niche]

is there a big difference with the silicone standoff? i doubt there would be since the rest of the case is being mount on the metal standoffs

i think there are only two silicone standoffs (middle and bottom slight right near space bar) right?

[paper bloom]

Sound profile

[paper bloom]

Yes

[tired niche]

what does it do to the sound

[paper bloom]

Clacky and thocky

More on the clack tho

[tired niche]

ahhh yeah not interested in that

[paper bloom]

Without the stand off

[tired niche]

ohhhh

hmmm

[paper bloom]

Silicone

its thocky

[tired niche]

okay got it

[paper bloom]

But it isnt like how do i explain it

The silicone dampens the sound of the metal stand off, You dont feel re assuring with the silicone standoff from Kbdfans, and there isnt a bounce feeling to it

While without it, its pretty re assuring

So to speak

[tired niche]

i have to say after building a neo65 from qwertykeys

i really like a soft typing feel

[paper bloom]

Well, what you got now is def better then a silicone stand off

I'll give you much of that

And if i were you id rather run a burgermount unless youre lazy just run a silicone stand off

Or don't

[tired niche]

these things are great

i wish there's a case that could mount the wooting with those

the entire board flex as one piece, unlike flex cut

[median spade]

Wouldn’t change much as the plate needs to be secured to pcb

[tired niche]

the bottom out feels really gooood

[paper bloom]

I mean you could gummy mount

Then screw it in

[median spade]

I have my 60he in a frog mini and it still stiffer

[tired niche]

yeah gummy mount is the closest thing

but not really since gummy is compressed

[median spade]

Due to needing standoffs on the plate it really gets rid of all benefits of other mounting

You can’t ever get flex or super soft

[tired niche]

burger mount made a bit of a difference (that's what im using right now)

[paper bloom]

I am running the Tofu 60 redux

[tired niche]

same

[paper bloom]

• the wooting PCB needs to breath

So if its too stiffled in sometimes without air it will X_X

Or idk

[tired niche]

i think you miss the idea here. we do not want a flex board with wooting. it will mess up key actuation

[paper bloom]

I literally bought 4 keyboards

after 2 weeks of buying 2 modules

🗿

1 Prebuilt 60HE+ And another Module for someone else

[tired niche]

but if wooting designed the pcb to be mounted using rubber gaskets the entire board would be moving together

trust me, i didnt think it would make that big of a difference in feel but what you get is a very nice absorbing bounce feel when you bottm out

on the wooting the bottom out is felt pretty good

on my neo65 it feels luxurious

lol

[paper bloom]

Thats nice

[tired niche]

i got an oring coming in from ringerkeys

i will test it out and hopefully it is softer than the burger mount

im just looking for a little less fatigue while button smashing

but yeah the burger mount did help with the bottom out feel. anything is better than straight pcb to metal standoffs

i also tried removing the standoffs all together

it felt like burger mount so i just put the burger mount back on

[paper bloom]

The feel should be the same

But a bit more bouncier

[median spade]

Either way as someone who has used their 60he in 3 different nice case now

the way the plate needs to be secured to pcb ru ins all benefits of most mouting styules

[tired niche]

wooting with this is a no no

the actuation points will be affected

[median spade]

Yeah

[tired niche]

performance > feel imo

[median spade]

Regardless of the case you pout it in not much is changed with the wooting 60he in terms of feel

since you need to screw the plate and pcb together

[tired niche]

well im getting away from screws all together and using the oring mount

[median spade]

No I’m talking how you screw the pcb to the plate

From the bottom of the pcb

[tired niche]

ohhh

you mean the standoffs

?

[median spade]

Yeah

[tired niche]

is going to touch the pcb

ohhhhh

well i might double side tape some orings on there

from the burger mount

that should help isolation

not sure if the usb port would line up though

i have to experiment

I really like the Neo65 layout and sound

I just wish it was HE

One day… I feel like the wooting has been so difficult to get great sound and feel with

[median spade]

Yeah HE switches right now just impossible to sound like MX stuff

One day hopefully

[median spade]

@static tendon white salvation https://reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/1aqcq96/usga_h_boards_switches_keycaps_w_paypal/

[static tendon]

Nice, recent post but 300$ is a bit steep. Even offering less I don’t think I can get too much lower 🤔

[static tendon]

Super tempting though, I’ll look into it more. Thank you for pinging

[devout torrent]

https://twitter.com/marere_e/status/1735977701088059748

まれ (@marere_e) on X

静音性は皆無

Twitter · Dec 16, 2023, 10:58 AM

go to 32 serconds in

[median spade]

I'm not trusting anything after the gateron video for jades sounded the same way with no HE sound to them

[devout torrent]

these switches are apparently a jade recolor

so wouldnt expect them to really sound any different

but it does look like neo65 he is coming at least

[wind karma]

polyfill vs wooting stock foam?

[median spade]

[agile grove]

polyfill

it gives more thock

but tbh just try both and see what you like

[mental salmon]

Good to know, makes this easier to buy and return if needed

[wind karma]

oh

is polyfill messy?

[agile grove]

not really

it can sorta squish out the sides tho

a very small amount

like a few fibers here and there

nothing flat tweezers cant fix

[polar girder]

Yeah not messy

It’s clumpy not like loose bits of stuff

[stray tiger]

Morning gents. Hope everyone is doing well

[agile grove]

im doin good, wbu?

[paper bloom]

Happy valentines day

[paper bloom]

Hope youre doing well brother

[stray tiger]

Ahh yeah Happy Valentines Day! Im doing good thanks. Just trying to find time to do actual keyboard stuff instead of work stuff! @agile grove thats good man, I like hearing when people are good.

@tawdry tree the Outemu switches work fine in the Boog75, further confirming its a polarity change.

I dont encourage FOMO buying but if you love GMK keycaps and limited quanity, single run keycaps also excite you, these went live this morning - https://thekeymachine.com/products/001

[gaunt marten]

Wait outemu he switches in gat sockets

Standardized switches/socket soon™

[stray tiger]

There are no legs on the Outemu HE switches so they fit every socket technically

[old swallow]

i think there will be a Neo65 HE

oh, someone already said that, i was behind in the chat

[tired niche]

Yeah I’m not sure if I could count on QK for software though

All the wooting clones have really bad software and performance.

Wooting software is top notch.

These other guys are just rushing into the HE gold rush but their products are B or C grade.

[median spade]

From looking geons stream

at*

it appears to be faster than the 60he with what information he shared

was showing 1.15ms for his venom and then 2.8ms for 60he

[agile grove]

I thought that figure for the 60he was outdated

[median spade]

Idk I was just was going by what he showed on stream

[glacial wind]

Geons board is definitely faster, but that’s to be expected because it’s 8k polling with 3k-4kish scanning

[glacial wind]

He’s using a different guys numbers

These numbers for key latency from a Korean YouTuber

Wooting is the fastest 1k scan board on the list though, so credit to their optimization

[wet hazel]

Pompomboard dominating at 37$?

Ah well it's an 8 key kinda uwu

Not a full keyboard

[glacial wind]

It’s key latency so all the high scanning boards will crush the test. And smaller boards also have advantage in scan time - which can be seen in how rakka beats geon even though both use same mcu

Here’s where the other non wootings fall below it, about 1-3 ms slower

[agile grove]

when will people stop blatantly coping wootility

[glacial wind]

Latency tests are also a bit ‘eh’ because you’re testing latency and not really rapid trigger consistency and performance which is a separate thing

[delicate bison]

hey don’t know if this is the right channel but I recently got my 2he and I am currently looking for new keycaps with swiss layout. I couldn‘t find any with this layout online is there a site to customize keycaps?

[stray tiger]

What does membership disclosure mean for the Boog75?

[glacial wind]

He has a private list for his membership subs im pretty sure

The whole testing list is made by a Korean tech YouTuber

[stray tiger]

Ahh makes sense

[agile grove]

https://alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list

[fluid ravine]

Happy singularity day!

[lapis stump]

so i got the graveshift gummy o rings today 40a and 65a and they are a super tight squeeze into the case. Now the left and right side seems to have squeezed themselves above to where they are now interfereing with certain side keycaps,

any way to take the whole thing out safely :D'

[stray tiger]

What size o-rings and what type of stabs?

[lapis stump]

small and the screw ins from the module, i heard they were compatible, this ia redux case

[stray tiger]

Ive never had good luck getting o-rings to work well with screw-in stabs.

[lapis stump]

yeah not sure how @bitter valve or @harsh dove did it unless they had plate mounted

[bitter valve]

I have screw-ins in redux, worked for me. You have to position the o-ring between plate and pcb. Also, not going to work with silicone, only poron.

I legit can pick up the pcb from the case by pushing it to one side with minimal force, but it won’t fall off if flipped.

[lapis stump]

yeah i have the poron, the sides tend to be the issues not sure how you positioned it to not squeeze those sides up

maybe its cause my case mght be acryllic?

[bitter valve]

The key thing here is making sure that the ring is under the plate

[stray tiger]

I also dont have a Tofu Redux case to test with or I would try for you

[bitter valve]

Try to use a thin tool to push the ring slightly in while installing

Where it gets stuck above the plate

Plate should be on top of the o-ring, if it makes sense

[lapis stump]

This is after oring attached. Do I need to somehow squeeze the side in more? The screw in stabs juts one part of it out

[bitter valve]

This looks good, just make sure it stays the same way when installing in the case. The ring will get caught by the plate, so you would have to push it down slightly with something

Like this, kind of, here you just need to push the ring, like you are pushing the plate down and the ring into the poron foam

Sorry for pic quality, currently at work lol

[lapis stump]

Now the top part is sticking out. Sides are a lil better lol

[bitter valve]

Also, make sure you are inserting top in first, so your usb aligns

[bitter valve]

Yeah, just push the ring itself further here

[bitter valve]

This needs to be under the plate

[lapis stump]

yeah its just difficult to do with even pressure without some side just jumping out

now the bottom is sticking up

[bitter valve]

Use a tool to push on the o-ring

[lapis stump]

do you have a case foam at the bottom

or just nothing

[bitter valve]

Thin layer of sorbothane

Your pcb goes in okay, from what I see, I highlighted on the picture where you should force your o-ring to be below the plate

Use a key or keycap puller to force it below the plate

On all sides

[lapis stump]

think it finally worked. lol it's harder than I expected 😂

yeah keycap puller was the way

[bitter valve]

Yeah, there you go

Also, to safely remove it, you can try to pull out two switches on both sides of space key, and just pull using the created holes

[fluid ravine]

Try taking it out

[bitter valve]

I can take mine out with keycaps on and without any tools lol

[lapis stump]

i had to use a switch puller and pull that hole right beside the spacebar

yeah its not as easy for me 😦

[bitter valve]

Might be the difference in acrylic case

Or o-ring hardness

I use 30A, so it’s easily compressed

[fluid ravine]

same
well only bc im using the 60he and no plate foam

slowly slides right out

[lapis stump]

Yeah I don't think it's going anywhere the 65a worked just gotta wedge the sides in with a cap puller

[bitter valve]

Yeah, I still have to do the same while installing

Oh, @lapis stump , make sure your usb port aligns properly

[lapis stump]

it is! first thing i checked after

the going in usb side first helps

[bitter valve]

Oh, cool, so you should be all set! Let’s see that final build pic!

[lapis stump]

I think the gray helps hide itself the best in this case. I briefly tried the 40a and it didn't seem to make a difference

in sound or bounciness

[primal geode]

Any news yet when they have their white wrist rest incoming? want to pull the trigger on the module but don't want to order two times

[bitter valve]

Yeah, it wouldn’t, since it’s not a true gasket, just friction instead of screws

[lapis stump]

but it does sound much better than the having the tray mount

[bitter valve]

Less ping?

[lapis stump]

yeah more consistent sound on the keys. Sounds a touch more marbly too. I used no case foam, 1 layer of painters tape, my redux has a brass weight as well.

i want to try it with a foam, but with the hassle it just took might wait a few days 😄

[bitter valve]

Hahaha, yeah, fair enough

[true patrol]

maybe someone who doesn't use the plate foam can answer this for me:
I know the switches aren't physically connected to the PCB in any way, but do the bottoms of the switches still rest on the PCB itself? Or are they actually suspended in air by the plate?

[bronze grove]

No contact at all.

[true patrol]

rog

[bronze grove]

They're mounted to and held entirely by the plate.

[stray tiger]

``The switches have legs that insert into the PCB but they arent secure/tight so the plate actually holds the switch

[true patrol]

Right, I know the PCB is not going to hold the switch

I'm just concerned with whether or not the bottom of the housings rests on the PCB

[bitter valve]

Just the feet

[true patrol]

gotcha. mostly trying to determine how detrimental a two-part plate would be if all the standoffs are still present/screwed in

if the switches rested on top of the PCB then it probably wouldn't have affected anything but if they don't, then I think it's not viable

[harsh dove]

It’s harder if your using the plate foam

Easier if you have nothing

[lapis stump]

Yeah I just don't think I am comfortable with those switches on a pc plate without some support in between

[harsh dove]

lol it’s fine

Could always just test it and see how you feel

[stray tiger]

Tearing down the boog75 now and its no wonder the stabs are garbage. There is no lube hehe

[harsh dove]

Lmao

[fluid ravine]

LMAOO

[harsh dove]

Unlubed stock stabs, nice

[stray tiger]

Well almost none, Like next to nothing

[bitter valve]

Yikes

[true patrol]

eh, unlubed can be good if you're the type to like doing it yourself

[fluid ravine]

So what's the new rating now that it has no lube

[true patrol]

a lot easier to lube factory unlubed than it is to fix bad factory lube

[bitter valve]

You just toss it in a soapy water to dissolve the lube

[stray tiger]

Still the same, I already thought they sounded really bad, now I know why

[harsh dove]

Always do stabs by yourself or you’ll never be happy in life

[true patrol]

yeah, I'm just saying it may be unlubed intentionally to cater to the crowd that likes doing it themselves

whether or not it's a negative on the board depends on each person, for me it's a positive

[harsh dove]

I would think, personally, with a prebuilt for it to be factory lubed

Something like the module I could expect to be unlubed

[bitter valve]

Yeah, but it’s a prebuilt, so supposedly ready for the consumer to use out of the box

[harsh dove]

Yeah

Exactly

[stray tiger]

I could fire up the stream but my grand baby in the background might be audible.

[harsh dove]

It wouldn’t bother me personally cause I do my stabs anyway but yeah, should be somewhat ready out of box

[true patrol]

I think we're in an era where factory lube on switches and stabs is just kinda expected, but a lot of boards do it for a checkbox and don't actually do a good job anyway

[harsh dove]

Right yeah

We end up doing it ourselves anyway

But some of your more average gamer consumers will just want the board to be good out of box and they might not even know the stabs sound bad

If they aren’t an enthusiast

[bitter valve]

They might not know what stabs are to begin with

[stray tiger]

Pop into https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/167181566978555905 and Ill show you what I mean

[lapis stump]

So how different is the typing feel or sound without the foam for you?

[harsh dove]

Sound is def more thocky/foamy with the plate foam but it's easier to remove without it and I kinda prefer the sound with no foam on my current build

[lapis stump]

You have jades with a pc plate right?

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[median spade]

Ahh that would do it

[stray otter]

Same day that Wrath is released

[bitter valve]

8k polling is a scam lol

[agile grove]

yeah it only has 4k scanning anyways

[median spade]

not really a scam, but just a thing

higher number = more faster = more better

[meager crane]

Do your guys have any recommendations for high-performance, nice-sounding switches on 60he ? I usually play League of Legends

Keycap as well, look like for black color but not fully black

[median spade]

Sound is really preference thing, but the two best right now are Raptors and Jades for most

[meager crane]

This ?

[devout torrent]

No geon raptor

[meager crane]

https://www.angrymiao.com/en/icy-silver-switch-pro/ and is this work on 60he?

This ? So I need buy like 4 of it ?

[toxic sapphire]

18x4 is 72 yeah

[paper bloom]

I run the L45's

For FPS and what not since i just need is a 45

Than a 60

[meager crane]

What keycap ur guys think good

[hot raven]

what you like

[meager crane]

black, but not fully black

A little light transmittance, preferably not gonna be dirty, i dont know if it exist

[paper bloom]

I run normal stuff from landingPad, Wooting's stocks are good

GMK and PBTFans are not bad

[hot raven]

you have this but i think you can search and find someone sell this

https://kbdfans.com/products/clear2048-keycaps-set

[meager crane]

anything similar with this? cant find any

with no japanese charater on it will be better

[crimson sky]

so much link

all you needed was:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004514220975.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005033431773.html

no it is because you did not cull tracking bs

same stuff happens on amazon or ebay

[stray tiger]

You can remove everything after the ? in the URL

[crimson sky]

latter is even worse

[hot raven]

mb

[meager crane]

ty, but that 2 look ugly

😶‍🌫️😶‍🌫️

[hot raven]

idk i just search somethings similar

and you need to know which texture you like too

metal ceramic poly

[meager crane]

I am searching now

[true patrol]

just keep in mind if you look for more of these, there is a "geon raptor" and a "geon raptor HE"

If you are getting raptors, the HE version is what you want for a wooting/other hall effect board, the non-HE will not work

[meager crane]

tyty， got it

[wispy peak]

is the .5mm difference between the jades and lekkers very noticable?

[dense token]

whats a jade

[wispy peak]

gateron jades

[dense token]

oh

ive had some other 3.5mm things its not too noticeable

it would feel a little bit quicker if anything

[wispy peak]

alr thanks

also if anyone has the jades, should i lube them or are they good factory lubed?

[harsh dove]

My batch was good factory lubed but hand lubing never hurts

[grim steppe]

Has anyone tried Gateron KS-20U yet?

[wispy peak]

thanks

[harsh dove]

Yeah Im using them right now

[grim steppe]

And how is that in comparison to Jades?

[harsh dove]

I prefer the Jades personally but the KS20u is good

[grim steppe]

Because of sound?

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[grim steppe]

Okay, thanks

[craggy viper]

anyone try the orange 2.0s yet?

[glacial wind]

it's mostly if you use it back to back that you notice, but you get used to it pretty quickly

[wispy peak]

cool thanks

[bronze grove]

That's not how cases work.

[true pulsar]

Hey guys, do you think that the o ring that comes with the neo65 can be used to gummy o ring mount the wooting 60he+ module in the rofu60 redux case? I am using Clip in stabs so clearance isn't an issue overall. Will the neo65 o ring be too loose?

Thanks in advance 😊

[brave lagoon]

I still need help how to customize my key caps, I’ve been seeing pro gamers with coloured key caps

Does anyone know where pro gamers get them?

[meager pine]

Does anyone have a sound test on jades stock (factory lubed) vs lubed

[loud zephyr]

what about these bad boys

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0013/1383/3071/files/KC2-US2-DYS-CTRL_5.jpg?v=1692707332

[brave lagoon]

Mmm

I like them but

@loud zephyr can I show u an example of how I want mine to look

[loud zephyr]

otherwise search 'cherry mx keycaps' on Amazon, Kbdfans, Novelkeys, Cannonkeys etc

[loud zephyr]

yes, please

[brave lagoon]

I kinda want to customize my keyboard like this

Since I’m a gamer, I want my WASD keys to be coloured

Most gamers customized their keyboard and make them sound good but I don’t know how y’all do that

[loud zephyr]

what region are you at?

[brave lagoon]

@loud zephyr you mean Country

[loud zephyr]

yeah

[brave lagoon]

Canada

BC

[loud zephyr]

this has a Vendor list for Canada https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[brave lagoon]

Okay lemme check it out first

[orchid hawk]

what clip in stabs are u using im also planning on doing that but im not sure which ones i should get

[loud zephyr]

if they're pricey then just roll with Amazon and search 'cherry mx keycaps', there's like millions of different colourways

[true pulsar]

Im using the tx ap clip in stabs for 1,6mm pcbs

[brave lagoon]

@loud zephyr I play valorant competitively, what keyboard do u recommend PBT or ABS?

[orchid hawk]

perfect lol those were the ones i was looking at ty ty

[loud zephyr]

either one is fine but Pbt won't shine as fast as abs

[true pulsar]

Np, have fun and i hope everything works out 👍🏻

[orchid hawk]

likewise

[brave lagoon]

I want to click fast

[brave lagoon]

Are u saying ABS is good for me?

[loud zephyr]

there's no advantage to either material type

in terms of gaming

[brave lagoon]

What’s GMK keyboards

I don’t understand the abbreviation

[bronze grove]

GMK is a manufacturer of keycaps.

[brave lagoon]

But why does it say

“PBT” or “GMK”

[bronze grove]

What does, where

[brave lagoon]

BLK

DMK

are those the company?

[bronze grove]

Now YOU'RE the one throwing around abbreviations with no context 😄

[brave lagoon]

I’ll send a pic

@bronze grove u see these

[loud zephyr]

those are brand names, gmk and ePbt

[brave lagoon]

Ohhhhh

But

But what’s ABS

[bronze grove]

ABS and PBT are materials.

[brave lagoon]

Ohhhh okay

[craggy viper]

pbt is the way

[bronze grove]

https://wooting.io/post/abs-vs-pbt-what-are-the-best-keycaps

[brave lagoon]

Do they matter for FPS games?

I play FPS games

I just need help on what I should pick

[bronze grove]

Personal preference.

[loud zephyr]

no not at all, once abs shines it might become slippery but I haven't gotten that far

[brave lagoon]

Hmmm okay

Which sounds better abs or pbt

[loud zephyr]

I don't think either one sounds better than the other, but GMK lovers will tell you otherwise

just go with whatever imo

[brave lagoon]

Okay thanks

You guys helped so much

[loud zephyr]

no problemo 🙂

[honest flume]

how we feel about gat jades?

any problems with them?

going to put them on my module

[brave lagoon]

Bro I still can’t find a keycap set with a coloured WASD

I want keycaps like this

[knotty narwhal]

Again about the sound.. I read a bit on reddit and found this silent Switches.. Would it be possible to mount such switches on a Wooting Keyboard?

(Link is coming in a second)

https://chosfox.com/products/outemu-silent-honey-peach-switch

[brave lagoon]

@loud zephyr are anything with cherry profile good?

[loud zephyr]

pretty rare to find sets with WASD in different colours, I bought mine separately but the novelty wears off pretty quick imo

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984799440072220692/1196599292543119512/IMG_0679.JPG?ex=65dd20ef&is=65caabef&hm=15c75177c337623e51d9187c2c7e6a052edf1bbdcadf6e5b17667f03b2f93c49&

try https://www.wasdkeyboards.com/

[loud zephyr]

cherry or oem are probably the most popular profiles; not too high / not too low

[brave lagoon]

Okay thank u

@loud zephyr any custom switches will work with my Wooting module right?

Cuz I’m also getting custom switches

[loud zephyr]

no, it has to be compatible with Wooting's pcb: ie Gateron Jades and Geon Raptor HE

Lekker's of course

[brave lagoon]

Ohhh shit

[serene verge]

As Prospa said. It needs to be HE switches (Hall Effect)

[brave lagoon]

Will Gateron G pro yellow work?

[loud zephyr]

no

[brave lagoon]

Shoot

That switch sounds so nice

[loud zephyr]

some useful info on third party switches #🪛│modding_faq message

[brave lagoon]

So the lekker switch is what makes wooting the fastest keyboard?

[loud zephyr]

I heard it's voodoo magic

I'm not sure

[obsidian dagger]

the hall effect is

and that takes magnetic switches

[brave lagoon]

Ohhhh

[obsidian dagger]

conventional switches are electrical contacts

[thick mural]

the firmware makes it fast

[brave lagoon]

I got so caught up on the fact that some keyboards sounds so good cuz of the switches

So I should just stick with what I ordered then

I got the lekker switches

[thick mural]

try lekkers first, if you aren't happy look at others

[brave lagoon]

Ok

[obsidian dagger]

there arent many options, yes

[loud zephyr]

I'd just go with Lekker's for now, they're finely tuned for the Wooting; kinda like Max Verstappen is to Redbull

[brave lagoon]

Okay 👌🏼

[thick mural]

lekkers aren't anything special

but they're good enough and a bit of lube can help

[brave lagoon]

So I can use any custom keycaps but the switches are very limited

[thick mural]

depends what you're looking for

[thick mural]

any mx stem compatible keycaps work

[brave lagoon]

I didn’t order lube 😭

[thick mural]

which is like 99.9% of keycaps

[loud zephyr]

as long as the keycaps are cherry mx compatible then yeah

[brave lagoon]

I currently have Logitech KDA keyboard but I’m getting Wooting I’m hoping there’s a difference

I really hope Wooting is faster

I swear

[upper tusk]

What stabs can i go for 1.2T or 1.6T