🔧│keyboard_modding

[full tulip]

Anyone have any suggestions for switches? I just ordered some tx ap stabs so I’m pretty sure I can’t use long pole switches, correct me if I’m wrong.

[glossy dirge]

It sounds like many people use the jades just fine with regular stabs

[full tulip]

Oh, yeah I wasn’t sure if they would work with regular stabs or not

[glossy dirge]

You might need to update to beta firmware to use them properly, the modding_faq has a section on compatible switches

[median spade]

Yeah I'm using jades with tx ap rn

also stock stabs

one day we will get there, one day

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/no-randy-jackson-dawg-gif-12730917

[agile grove]

wait which TX AP stabs?

[harsh dove]

Way too hollow

[agile grove]

also why? the stock ones are good enough.

[harsh dove]

Basically has no character to it besides the design

[full tulip]

plate mount tkl set

rev 4

[agile grove]

the holy60 is an unholy abomination

why do I need my keyboard to look like venom

[harsh dove]

Sounds better with foam but you'll never get your spacebar to sound good

I mean I like skeletonized things but I don't like this

[median spade]

does show it's the bottom out or something with HE like he was saying as he put in the nixie build and then it was good

[harsh dove]

and its light af

[median spade]

yeah that's so when you rage you can hit your monitor with it

[agile grove]

tbh it probably would've been better to tune and balance the stock stabs, tx aps are going to sound exactly the same if not worse due to no factory lube. also some have had issues with plate mount TX AP not fitting.

[placid blaze]

1.2mm or 1.6mm stabs for the 60HE+?

[quiet bay]

yeah holy 60 is a no for both looks and sound for me 🙏

[harsh dove]

1.6mm

[placid blaze]

Thanks!

[median spade]

Oh I have sound test for you

[quiet bay]

what sound test?

[median spade]

I lubed my top housing on jades as noticed even on them they had that slight HE rattle

[harsh dove]

This is sex tho

[median spade]

rattle gone

[harsh dove]

Funny I was gonna get that Fuck Off Keycap

Now I feel like I still should

Think dbrand made em right?

[quiet bay]

ayeeee now sound test where

[median spade]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

they did lose a bit of character however

[full tulip]

I'll just lube them myself, no biggie

[quiet bay]

yummy sounds

a little bit of ping tho

[median spade]

stock case too #🔧│keyboard_modding message

Yeah

Salvation with HE just pings for some reason

[quiet bay]

Jades sound rlly good

[harsh dove]

Sounds good but sounds like what I imagine extra lubed to Jades to sound, which is like wet dominoes lol

[quiet bay]

too bad gateron is greedy 😔

[median spade]

ye pretty much accurate

[harsh dove]

Lmao

its good tho

No hate

[median spade]

yeah the price pretty not it

Makes me want to try top housing on raptors too

[harsh dove]

You using no foam?

[median spade]

that was silicone pad iirc

[harsh dove]

Ew

Any tape mod?

[median spade]

Nah as no painters tape

or masking

[harsh dove]

I felt like my moleskin layer removed the ping

I'm also using no foam

[median spade]

oh imma buy some of that real quick

[quiet bay]

yez

[median spade]

Yeah it's the weirdest thing to have ping, and then I put in my bsun build and ping begone

[quiet bay]

I liked 1 layer of masking and 1 layer of moleskin tape for tape mod

mainly cuz taking off 1 layer of moleskin tape is a pain

so I put it on top of masking

[median spade]

makes sense

[quiet bay]

and it sounds better than 5 layers of masking imo

in my case atleast

[harsh dove]

Yeah it has a stronger adhesive, not strong enough to damage PCB, at least I didn't lol but you can do what Pochizo said or cut your own screw holes like I did then you never have to remove it

[median spade]

I've never done the tape mod to this day, but might try it as why not

[harsh dove]

and it doesn't leave a residue

[quiet bay]

can confirm that atleast

no residue 👍

[harsh dove]

but yeah its hard to take off the first 2-3 times

then the adhesive weakens a bit and its easier

[supple girder]

what stabs do u guys use for your jades? I just put them in and I can kinda feel the imbalance. Wondering where i can buy new stabs and which ones to use

[median spade]

stock ones and tx ap

no issues with either

but if you want absolute compatibility buy the TX AP Long Pole

[supple girder]

do u use the 1.2T or 1.6T option?

[median spade]

1.6t

as 1.2t is for 1.2mm PCBs

[gleaming crane]

@polar girder when do you receive your small o-ring? I’m thinking of maybe getting it if it works out for you

[bleak steeple]

which tape was it you said? i’m thinking of doing two different tapes, first layer being painters tape and other layer being something else

it’s called mole tape?

[tawdry tree]

Moleskin but you can use other thick tape too.

If you’re doing the first layer with painters tape that is. You don’t want very sticky tape on your PCB.

[teal parcel]

i'm probably going to tape mod my pcb after i get around to lubing my switches

[blazing saffron]

How much lube should be on the stabs?

I don’t want to overlube

[teal parcel]

light layer

should be clear

if you see white you put too much

[tawdry tree]

Depends on your stabs.

[blazing saffron]

Default wooting stabs

[teal parcel]

on the wires you can go crazy

[bleak steeple]

yeah, that’s what i’ve heard. so i’m planning on doing painters tape first layer but im unsure what the other layers should be, what’s ur take on it? what should i do for the other layers?

[agile grove]

probably moleskin

[tawdry tree]

They come prelubed but if you want to relubed then a light coat on the stab stem and thicker around the wire.

[blazing saffron]

The stem is the + part that sticks out right? Or like the part that is inside the other part? Sorry I’m new to modding

[tawdry tree]

Honestly just doing multiple layers of painter’s tape is great. I don’t know how one layer of painter’s tape and moleskin compare to three layers of painter’s tape.

[tawdry tree]

Yes, the “+” part that sticks out.

Again, Wooting’s stabilizers come prelubed so you’re not required to relube them at all.

[blazing saffron]

I overlubed them so I had to clean the lube off

[bleak steeple]

ah i see, yeah i might just go for the painters tape then

[blazing saffron]

There is no lube on them at the moment

[tawdry tree]

You can always try one layer, then two and then three. See what you like most. 👍

[bleak steeple]

that is also true😎

[blazing saffron]

Thanks for the help. Appreciate it

🙂

[bleak steeple]

yes yes appreciate the help aligner

[tawdry tree]

Did you balance the wires? That can help the sound and feel quite a bit.

[blazing saffron]

I’m not sure

What does that mean

[tawdry tree]

https://youtu.be/xlSIIZqyQR0?si=nbTvAmyNOAAerNyf

[blazing saffron]

Not home rn but I’ll have to take a look

[tawdry tree]

Bent/unbalanced wires can cause the stabs to tick.

[tawdry tree]

All good, I’d recommend checking if your wires are balanced before lubing. 👍

[blazing saffron]

Alright I’ll be sure to, thanks!

[median spade]

I got those geon wire twisters even tho I have nothing to build

Or wires to tune

[tawdry tree]

They’re great to have when you need them. Timesavers too.

[autumn dome]

Never modded a keyboard before, what is the best mods to improve the sound of the HE?

[ionic heath]

I juts finished modding mine

immediately i recommended tuning and lubing the stock stabs, maybe im just unlucky but mine were pretty wobbly

I swapped to hand lubed jades, tempest mod, and switch pads

And i definitely over lubed the right shift... but other than that I feel accomplished

As for the overlubed shift, you think with time it will thin out and settle? Or would it be necesarry to go clean it out.

For a first time i dont think its bad

[cinder merlin]

check the modding faq for some basic mods first

has a good list

but usually just recommend lubing swtiches, maybe tape mod

[cinder merlin]

depends how much you've added

if its just slightly, it will thin out over time

[ionic heath]

okay i think ill be okay then

[cinder merlin]

if too much and it's affecting ur usage, i recomeend cleaning it out a little

[ionic heath]

its not mushy or anything, just feels maybe a little slower than the other keys coming up

[cinder merlin]

yea it will "break in" as u type alot

[ionic heath]

well that makes me feel better

[autumn dome]

Ok thanks!

[cinder merlin]

u can also get different switches since most of the modders here don't like the lekkers

these are also mentioned in the faq

[left kayak]

the gateron jade is awesome

[mellow beacon]

Has anyone here gotten TX AP Long Poles with Jades to work on a german ISO-DE 60he+ module? I cannot possibly get them to not be scratchy/slow no matter what I do

and its not just slight scratchyness or slowness theyre borderline unuseable

Stock stabs work perfectly fine

Things I've tried :
-Adjust screw in force
-Try unlubed/lubed
-Try with/without PC top plate on (more to this after the list)
-Different keycaps
-Different switch but of the same sort (Gateron magnetic jade)

With the top plate on the scratchyness/slowness becomes 100x worse. Another thing I noticed is that compared to the stock stabs the top plate has a much more tighter fit when the tx ap stabs are on the pcb, it takes quite some force to get it around all of them. I wouldnt say enough force to be squeezing the stabilizer housing causing friction though.

[remote epoch]

no ones replied in other channels any help with the remapping software, i cant find the at sign to remap it to a key and its not on my shift 2

[tawdry tree]

Wooting’s plate is too tight for TX’s AP stabilizers. You can force them through and they will work perfectly fine for some and won’t function well or at all for others. You can either continue to using the stock stabilizers that came with the module or enlarge the stabilizer holes on the plate with a hobby knife.

[mellow beacon]

I guess I'll try making the holes a bit larger

I've had that idea but it was gonna be a last resort typa thing

[tawdry tree]

That might be a windows issue. You can’t remap Shift + characters I don’t think.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, as it should be. Cutting polycarbonate with a hobby knife can be very tricky.

There’s no other option if you wish to use your TX stabilizers sadly.

[mellow beacon]

I feel just scraping the holes bigger with the knife should also work

[mellow beacon]

Yeah makes sense. Nice to know I'm not the only one who has experienced this issue before though

[tawdry tree]

Maybe, or sanding it.

[mellow beacon]

yep

[tawdry tree]

Me. 😁

and a few others.

By the way, if you use stock keycaps you don’t need to use long pole stabs with your jades. Jades work fine with normal stabs.

[mellow beacon]

I use dye sub keycaps but they also work perfectly fine with stock stabs. It's just that since I purchased the tx ap ones I'd prefer using them lmao

Also heard theyre somewhat better

[urban chasm]

it has been 2 weeks since i ordered the jade switches where is it 😭

[stray tiger]

Those stabs are known to cause issues for some people. The stab housings are too close to max tolerance levels.

Pick any other brand with the exception of maybe staebies and they will work fine.

[grave quail]

Which clip-in stabs would you all recommend for the 60he+ module, for a gummy o-ring mount?

I've only used screw in stabs to date

[robust bramble]

Can someone help me, i got my wooting 60 he + module and I don’t know where to place the foam

There is no yt video or something where it is explained, how to layer the different parts

[bronze grove]

What foam? Photo please.

[robust bramble]

This

[bronze grove]

That is an optional alternative to the preinstalled pad that the module already has installed (made from silicone)

To swap it, you'll have to screw the PC plate and PCB from each other, swap the pads, and screw it back together.

[robust bramble]

Ok ty and what is this

[bronze grove]

Just part of the packaging.

https://help.wooting.io/article/177-putting-your-60he-module-together
This little guide I wrote might help answer most questions. 🙂

[median spade]

Mansen you’re not purple anymore

[waxen bane]

gg

[lofty needle]

MANSEN GONE

[bronze grove]

And yet... I am still somehow here.

[robust bramble]

Is it normal that these things are not going down? In the spacebar

[bronze grove]

Those - are in their down position.

They're only supposed to move up and down when attached to a keycap.

[robust bramble]

Yes but they are not moving

[bronze grove]

Grab one and pull it upwards.

Does it go back down by itself, and does the other one follow it?

[robust bramble]

No

[tawdry tree]

Hard to recommend any at the moment. The PC plate is too tight for TX’s AP stabilizers which causes them to bend the plate and makes them unusable for some. If you don’t mind enlarging the plate’s stabilizer holes then those will do.

[robust bramble]

When I put a keycap on it it’s stuck somehow

[agile grove]

MANSEN WHY ARENT YOU PURPLE

[bronze grove]

Just cuz, cuz

Don't make it weird, and stay on topic.

[tawdry tree]

😂

[tawdry tree]

Those are the stock stabs right?

[agile grove]

oh mb my brain skipped over that part ig lol

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/thumb-up-thumb-up-eating-thumb-up-moment-gif-18075118

[grave quail]

Thanks for this. What about Cherry? Same issue?

[tawdry tree]

Cherry’s clip ins would fit perfectly fine but I don’t think reviews were great for those.

Tendency to rattle in the PCB

iirc

[grave quail]

I appreciate the input!

[velvet drift]

i just ordered the two he can somebody point me in the direction of some keycaps? i'm planning on starting to mod keyboards when i get it

[agile grove]

what are you looking for?

[idle pier]

i feel like a pro: just mounted my module into my alumaze but forgot the foam....

[idle pier]

oh yeah i should have definitely checked out this before starting lmao thanks

[velvet drift]

i'm not too sure yet because i'm new to modding. i was looking at these but not sure what other options there really is

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BJ1H33DM/ref=sspa_dk_detail_6?pd_rd_i=B0BJ1H33DM&pd_rd_w=8A3VJ&content-id=amzn1.sym.f734d1a2-0bf9-4a26-ad34-2e1b969a5a75&pf_rd_p=f734d1a2-0bf9-4a26-ad34-2e1b969a5a75&pf_rd_r=P63J6DN6WWEG13N8PGN9&pd_rd_wg=2w5Jv&pd_rd_r=23b7e628-d104-4d0d-b526-545d5ec00685&s=pc&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9kZXRhaWw&th=1

[stable kindle]

is there room to use both poly fill and case foam ?

or do you have to do one or the other?

[wet hazel]

I have wooting foam+Tofu foam+ polyfill

[stable kindle]

was that your fav combo?

[wet hazel]

I don't have anything just mounted the keyboard as I needed it for work

Some prefer no foam

[agile grove]

anything with a cherry or cross stem (which is most keycaps) is compatible

[stable kindle]

@wet hazelis the tofu foam the super thin one with a bunch of cutouts/holes?

[agile grove]

yes

its not supposed to be case foam, they call it a liner

[stable kindle]

so that is supposed to be on the bottom of the pcb?

[agile grove]

wait I think you're actually refering to the plate foam

im a little confused

[crimson sky]

cherry clip ins are great

I need to order some again, only have one set left

[agile grove]

the foam that comes with the tofu goes into the bottom of the case

the plate foam goes inbetween the plate and PCB

[stable kindle]

@agile grovewhy is it so much thinner than the one that wooting gives you?

so like where the silicone pad is?

[crimson sky]

top is between plate and pcb

bottom is between bottom case and pcb

(these are only exemplary not for the wooting)

[agile grove]

because like I said, its just a liner. I personally didnt design the tofu redux so I cant really answer that question .

[tawdry tree]

@grave quail maybe give Cherry clip ins a shot?

[median spade]

cherry clip ins never lost

goated

[velvet drift]

okay thank you!

[agile grove]

probably needs some balancing and tuning

[tawdry tree]

I meant Cherry’s mounting here. I read something like that.

All stabs need tuning, it’s very rare to get one perfect out of the box. 😉

[agile grove]

true

[stable kindle]

where would this thin foam go?

after the plate foam, before the pcb?

[devout torrent]

oh this is kbd fans foam

[stable kindle]

so its a replacement for this?

[devout torrent]

no this one is for the swithces I think

I would just use the one that came w/ board

[stable kindle]

so i understand that one goes between the plate and the PCB

im trying to figure out where the one that came with the KBDfans foam is supposed to go

[bronze grove]

That doesn't look 60HE compatible at all.

[agile grove]

im assuming its meant to go in-between the plate and the pcb as well, but it certainly is not 60he compatible

[stable kindle]

Gotcha, thanks for the infos

[tawdry tree]

Seems about right no?

[bronze grove]

[tawdry tree]

Or am I blind?

[stable kindle]

It does align with the board

[tawdry tree]

Maybe I’m trippin

[harsh dove]

This goes between plate foam and PCB

[tawdry tree]

It got the space bar rgb cut outs too

[stable kindle]

Came with the carbon fiber plate

[sharp yew]

it works

[harsh dove]

Yeah

I believe it does work with wooting

Put it between PCB and plate foam

[stable kindle]

would i install that with the plate silicone/foam?

[harsh dove]

Underneath switches

Yes

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/chuck-mcgill-im-not-crazy-i-am-not-crazy-better-call-saul-bcs-gif-25855903

[stable kindle]

gotcha, the extra distance doesnt cause any issues?

[harsh dove]

It shouldn’t

It’ll compress

[sharp yew]

chicanery.

[tawdry tree]

You can use the plate foam on top of it I presume?

[sharp yew]

you can

[stable kindle]

kk gotcha thanks. so Carbonfiber Plate -> Platefoam-> KBDfans foam -> PCB

[harsh dove]

Yes

It’s thin

[tawdry tree]

I kinda want a sheet, I didn’t know it was included.

[harsh dove]

Yessir

If you have any issues please keep us posted

[stable kindle]

@harsh dove thanks again boo

will do

[harsh dove]

Also wouldn’t mind a pic of it on the PCB to see how it lines up

[stable kindle]

i gotchu

thoughts on holee mod or plumbers mod?

worth doing?

[harsh dove]

What stabs you have?

[stable kindle]

the ones that came with the module

[harsh dove]

Nah I wouldn’t do those mods tbh

Just tune and lube

[stable kindle]

what do you mean by tune?

[harsh dove]

Make sure wires aren’t bent

[stable kindle]

what about the switch tape mod? do i need to clean the top housing before i apply the tape? worth doing?

[harsh dove]

What’s switches you have?

[stable kindle]

or shouldi wait for the KS-20U switch you guys were talking about

lekkers

lekker-60

[harsh dove]

Up to you, I’d just lube top housing

Esp if you gonna get new switches

[stable kindle]

do people clean the housing of lube before applying the tape?

[harsh dove]

Yes

Won’t stick otherwise

[thick mural]

it'll slip off once the wire moves

[stable kindle]

aight. imma see what you guys say about the KS-20U when they are released. will just grease and lube for now

[thick mural]

i use a brush soaked in alcohol to clean them

[tawdry tree]

They’re on mechkeys already.

[stable kindle]

@thick mural was it worth it for you? notice a significant difference?

[stable kindle]

whats the general concensus?

[thick mural]

yeah, the factory lube can be bad depending on shipping

[agile grove]

dont think anyone has gotten their hands on them yet

[tawdry tree]

Nobody has them yet, soon though.

[harsh dove]

I get mine today

[thick mural]

for me, i over lube slightly and then let it wear in

ends up sounding better

try not to overlube the bottoms of the housing tho

otherwise it'll make the stem stick

[stable kindle]

kk

[stray tiger]

same

[thick mural]

im still rocking raptors

[stable kindle]

so its like $70 for 70?

[harsh dove]

Ima find your courier truck and swap yours out

I also got the tx ap screw in

So I’ll test those as well

[stray tiger]

haha, I wont be home until Monday to get them anyway.

[harsh dove]

Aw damn

[agile grove]

cam that means you can steal them easier

[stray tiger]

If he waits until Tuesday he can steal my Boog75 too. However we dont have mailboxes in my neighborhood, just locked postal boxes at the end of the road.

[harsh dove]

Just take an angle grinder to the back of it

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-done-all-done-all-set-im-finished-gif-14305651

[dire vale]

Hey everyone i wanted to do a burger mount on the 60he+ do you guys have any advice ?

It's my first ever custom kb

Also for a thockier sound which foam should i use ? I have a tofu 60 redux

[harsh dove]

Wooting stock foam or tofu foam is fine

[harsh dove]

Not much advice besides just follow the guides that show how to do it and don’t overtighten screws

Wooting has a guide on their YouTube as well BadSeedTech

[dire vale]

Oh perfect thanks mate

I have a couple other questions if you mind

I bought jades switches do i need to lube them or they are good as it is

[tawdry tree]

They’re alright as is but if you want to mute their upstoke a bit you should lube them, where the stem impacts the top housing to be more specific.

[gaunt linden]

You mean the bottom housing?

[harsh dove]

Personal preference, I’ve left mine as is for a couple weeks now

Probably will hand lube at some point

But factory lube on my batch was consistent

[uncut musk]

when im bored i lube

[gaunt linden]

I did the same as you but i bag lubed the springs

[dire vale]

Oh ok thanks, guess ill leave them as is for now then

[harsh dove]

I bag lube as well with SuperLube Oil

[dire vale]

And has anyone ever tried the "holee mod" for stabs ?

Is it good or the basic stabs lubing is enough

[tawdry tree]

No.

[tawdry tree]

Depends on your stabs.

[harsh dove]

Not really needed unless your stabs are ticking but a good lube and tune job can fix that @dire vale

[dire vale]

Ill keep the original stabs included for now

[harsh dove]

Yeah they’re fine

[dire vale]

Tune job?

[harsh dove]

Yeah just balancing wires and such

[dire vale]

Oh ok

[harsh dove]

https://youtu.be/vxHb6CJc9V8?si=hyaSPkwK6_ljpYqR

[dire vale]

And basic painter masking tape is good or do i need the blue one ? Like everyone else use ?

[dire vale]

Thanks !

[harsh dove]

Any painters masking tape will do

[dire vale]

Ok great well lets get to work then thanks everyone

[tender rain]

Can I do burger mount even on the smaller holes that are in the foam? It's my first time, don't really know if I'm doing it correctly, and the screws should still go from the back of the pcb like it was when I unscrewed them right?

Like this part doesn't have that bigger cut out like others

[harsh dove]

So that hole and ones of similar size aswell as the straight line cutouts are for the switch plate

They align with the switch plate

[tender rain]

can I burger mount them too?

[agile grove]

no, they arent for screws

[harsh dove]

No

[agile grove]

the holes with a metal circle around them are for the screws

[rough wagon]

Hey guys, I’m getting my 60he module today and was wondering—for the Tofu 60 redux, do I install the module in the case with the screws Tofu provided or the ones Wooting provided?

[agile grove]

either or

should be pretty much the same

[rough wagon]

Ok thanks!

[tender rain]

I added this on the screw

[agile grove]

those arent for burger mount and they dont go on the screws. they go on the standoffs.

[harsh dove]

That’s technically fine, these are adhesive foam and silicone o rings for the case standoffs

[tender rain]

ohhh

[harsh dove]

They either go on top of the case standoffs or on the bottom of the PCB

They have a sticky adhesive side

You want to align them with the screw holes for the case where the PCB will sit

[stable kindle]

wait a min, i also thought they were for burger mount so i returned my silicon o rings

[harsh dove]

It’s the same concept as burger mount pretty much just different design and procedure

[stable kindle]

ok so its like a pancake mount

[harsh dove]

You could technically do both

[stable kindle]

gotcha i see what you mean

by same concept

right then ill continue with the project and use these

[tender rain]

Where should I place those little o rings?

I'm sorry, but I really don't understand where these things should go

[agile grove]

^^^^

the case standoffs or the bottom of the pcb where it meets the standoffs

[tender rain]

if I add on the standoffs can/need to add on the pcb as well?

[bronze grove]

On either, not both.

[tender rain]

Okay, ty!

[bronze grove]

You might have trouble screwing it in, if you double stack.

[tender rain]

how do I install the switches i'm scared of breaking the pcb or something, should I support it from the back

[agile grove]

just push the down untill they click

thats about it

[tender rain]

okay

[agile grove]

ever played with legos? yeah just do that lol

[glossy dirge]

and the window part up, as it shows in the picture

[tender rain]

yup

[polar girder]

@harsh dove 🥴

[halcyon sparrow]

@bronze grove would you know what term to use when search the replacement for those rings

[halcyon sparrow]

.

[harsh dove]

Same date for me

[finite swan]

only true low profile wooting is naked one

tried ali flat case and its kinda tall still

just foam and pcb work and sound surprisingly well

[harsh dove]

My KS20u are out for delivery now tho

[polar girder]

Nice

[teal parcel]

Nice. Did you get expedited? That was pretty quick

[median spade]

we pray that they will be the best sounding switches so far (they won't be) and HE shall be saved

[median spade]

standard delivery time from mechkeys according to their website

[primal geode]

Nice, mine were delivered Wednesday, but cant test them yet since im still on a trip :/

[harsh dove]

I think so I can’t remember tho, I’ll check

Might’ve been only one delivery option tbh

[tender rain]

Is this symbol alt?

[old swallow]

yes

[tender rain]

this is windows button right?

[polar girder]

Wooting button

[old swallow]

yes, it is by default

[polar girder]

But yeah 😅

[tender rain]

:D

[old swallow]

if you are using a symbols kit and have function on the most right key then it should be like this

[tender rain]

yo ty so much!

[old swallow]

its a bit confusing, cause usually the bottom right 2 are swapped around

but to make it easier to use with layers wooting by default puts FN on the most right one

[tender rain]

is that your keyboard?

[old swallow]

yeah, those are mine

[tender rain]

Nice, one question, did you use the tofu60 foam or the wooting one?

[old swallow]

i just used the tofu foam, i didnt test the wooting foam, but with the tofu foam the fitment was perfect so i just kept that

[tender rain]

yeah I'm thinking the same :D

[old swallow]

the wooting foam is a bit thicker, it could work. but it would just become a little bit compressed i guess

[agile grove]

I'd recommend the wooting foam for sound, if you got the 60he then make make sure you only use the top part, if you have the module then the foam it comes with is fine stock.

[median spade]

my desire to match wants these to be switched

[median spade]

works well and wish we could get a slightly thinner version of it tbh

in cases not the plastic one just pushes the assembly up and defeats points of aftermarket case

[uncut musk]

i felt like the foam liner worked better for me

both work just fine

[median spade]

Ye

[agile grove]

actually for sound I'd recommend polyfill

polyfill is the best option

[median spade]

I'm fine with foam till you put it in case and then it just pushes the assembly up, and makes it look like low profile keyboard

drives me nuts

like this

or this

[dire vale]

Hey guys are these included with the module for burger mounting ?

[tender rain]

Hey, I got tofu60 redux with wooting module, i'm trying both of the foams and man it's hard to decide, there is a difference but It's hard to pick, if going for thocky sound which one would you pick?

[dire vale]

Also found additionnal screws, they seem a bit longer

[median spade]

yeah

[agile grove]

for thocky I'd recommend polyfill, but between the two foams I'd recommend the wooting one

[agile grove]

false

[agile grove]

no

[median spade]

are those not for putting on the standoffs

[dire vale]

What is it for?

[agile grove]

yes exactly, but thats not burger mount

[median spade]

same concept essentially

[agile grove]

you put them on the standoffs or where the PCB meets the standoffs

[dire vale]

Not on the stabs screw only on other screws right ?

And for a thockier sound which pad should i use thé foam one or the silicone one ?

[agile grove]

the foam switch pad

[dire vale]

Thanks

[agile grove]

no not on the stab screws, only where the pcb meets the case standoofs

[dire vale]

Thanks !

[uncut musk]

ngl i just tested both the thin foam line and the foam from wooting and i felt like there was almost no difference in sound

the wooting foam might make it a tad bit deeper

this look like polyfill to yall?

[tender rain]

What is this for?

[tender rain]

should I add them?

[uncut musk]

up to you tbh, i just kinda put them on there, idk if it affects anything i know some people just throw them away and have no problem without them so

[tender rain]

Do I need to use the brass ones?

[median spade]

if you want more contacnt points

sure

if not no

try it with and witthout and see what you prefer

[tender rain]

does it make any differance in sound?

[median spade]

yeah

more contact points so it will reverbate more where it touches and screwed in

preference if you like it or not

[uncut musk]

yo how much polyfill should i use

[tender rain]

So I use one in the middle and in the right bottom side?

[stray tiger]

Just a bit. A thin cloud that doesnt stick up above the case

[uncut musk]

?

[uncut musk]

smth like thisv

sorry just realized how hard that is to see lmao

[median spade]

Yep

[fluid ravine]

more

[uncut musk]

fr?

[uncut musk]

okay

so

lmao

wait does i change if you are gummy mounting

it

[waxen bane]

Gummy mount + polyfill for what

i genuinely want to know tho

also is it expensive

[uncut musk]

i dont think they are that expensive right

[fluid ravine]

wdym

Oh

[uncut musk]

idk i feel like if i put that much its just gonna cover up the standoffs for the screws

[fluid ravine]

I need to read a book lmao

[clear kindle]

@harsh dove Yo, you get your switches in yet?

[fluid ravine]

just space them away from the standoff

[harsh dove]

Yeah

Not home tho

[clear kindle]

How are they?

ahh okay

Hurry home please. I need to know!!

[fluid ravine]

oh shi congrats just noticed

[clear kindle]

lmao

😛

Also, how long did it take to arrive after order?

[harsh dove]

About a week

[clear kindle]

Sweet!

[harsh dove]

Was ordered on the 31st

So 9 days

[clear kindle]

Ahh okay. Not bad. Where does it ship from?

[harsh dove]

China

[uncut musk]

@fluid ravine this better ?

[fluid ravine]

[uncut musk]

dude this material is so annoying

gets little strands everywhere

[fluid ravine]

try it out see how you like it

i prefer more but who knows

[harsh dove]

I love the torn open pillow

[fluid ravine]

plus i cant see 👀

[wet hazel]

That's a lot more polyfill that what I put in my case👀

[fluid ravine]

lmao it does look alot

[harsh dove]

Thank you btw

[uncut musk]

dude i was taking a gamble

[wet hazel]

Weight-wise is not a lot, that's light as f

[fluid ravine]

nah its not

if it is it would be raised point to narnia

[wet hazel]

I though that was hair the other day and nope, another strand of polyfill escaped

[polar girder]

Upside down Wooting wrist rest perfect holy60 wrist rest??

😅

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[harsh dove]

Yanno I was looking at this recently on mine and I imagine that’s how they came up with the design tbh

[tender rain]

I can tape mod wooting pcb right?

[uncut musk]

my space bar is smth else lmao

[median spade]

how much does your pcb sit elevated with this much polyfill

just curious

[agile grove]

yes

[devout torrent]

is tape mod worth

idk if I wanna pull this kb out again after fitting it with oring

lol

I stuffed it full of MLV but might wantw to swap to some sorbothane

[bleak steeple]

anyone know of a good screw driver set specifically for keebs?

[harsh dove]

iFixIt

[tender rain]

My first keyboard build:))

[devout torrent]

cant go wrong

I have a set like this as well that works quite well

since its extendable for smaller/harder to reach places sometimes

[harsh dove]

Yeah my iFixIt set has a extension that is bendable

Flexible rather

[median spade]

not bad not bad

looks good

[devout torrent]

yeah that one is a bit thicker though

[fluid ravine]

lmao

[devout torrent]

haven't always had luck with that one

[median spade]

shark you hear my jades stuff i did for the top housing

[devout torrent]

but htbis is in very rare scenarios tbh

[devout torrent]

oh no I don't think so

lemme try to find that in a sec

[bleak steeple]

looks sick, i have a similar looking build

[median spade]

yeah just search from me audio

youll see one for salvationa nd stock case

[devout torrent]

sick I will check in about 2-3 mins

wrapping up a meeting

[bleak steeple]

yeah i saw this one but i was a little skeptical about the extended bits since i’ll really only be using it for my keyboard

[devout torrent]

I woulkd ojust go for something like ifixit

quality and prettty cheap

[median spade]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

Saved you time

[devout torrent]

oh sick ty

[harsh dove]

https://a.co/d/1GeKL8N

[devout torrent]

I have htis one as well, good stuff

the only downside I ever really had was it was sometimes too big to take apart my GPW

lmao

[harsh dove]

https://a.co/d/6L7H5wF

I have this one personally

But didn’t wanna recommend a $75 kit

For just keyboards

[bleak steeple]

yeah, i saw a geon collab tho, i kinda like how it comes with a small compact case,

[median spade]

geon one also nice

[harsh dove]

If you do other stuff then you can go for a larger more expensive kit

But for keebs I’d like at around $30

Kits

[devout torrent]

this is nearly the exact one I have

mine is a good 7-8 years old though

but theon e I had had a lifetime wraranty on it as well

and I've had it swapped out a couple times now

mostlyu just swap bits for wearing down over time

[uncut musk]

ngl i just got a like 20 buck ifixit kit and it works great

[harsh dove]

Yeah iFixIt is lifetime as well

[devout torrent]

sweet

[bleak steeple]

that’s true, i don’t really have use for a screw driver, other than for taking my keeb apart,

[uncut musk]

actually the 15 dollar one

[harsh dove]

Yeah the minnow kit

[hard sapphire]

do I need to take about the m60+ module at all to install the switches?

[bleak steeple]

so i think imma go with the geon one, looks super compact

[devout torrent]

man salvation sounds pretty good actually

maybe I should have bought that one for 150 LOL

[harsh dove]

https://a.co/d/9F4VdE7

Here’s the minnow kit

Fits in your pocket

[bleak steeple]

ouuu nice

[uncut musk]

super convenient

[bleak steeple]

damn still a tough decision, thanks for the recomendations but i think i’ll meet it in the middle with the geon one, it has 23 bits and still seems a bit compact so i think it’ll get the job done well!

[median spade]

But yeah no more rattle top housing sound

[median spade]

Are you going to get anything else from geon?

Shipping is $28 minimum usually

[devout torrent]

I lubed my jades as well but sound didnt really change much

didnt really notice any rattle

I might go back do do the top housings since I skipped those the first time though

does sound like it makes it sound better

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/hype-party-gif-23560775

[median spade]

go light if you do of course

But it's not something that's hugely noticeable unless you go back to mx boards every day like me

[devout torrent]

yeah I havent used my mx boards in a while

I am too lazy to swap back and forth tbh

wooting def doesnt feel as good but with jades its much better

more usabele

[median spade]

Yeah my work desk has my mx boards for sound and feel

and then gaming desk/personal pc is 60he

so i notice all the rattle/loose/upstroke etc with HE stuff immediately until I lubed the top housing at least

now they are just very quiet and such

[devout torrent]

I work from home

so my work desk and game desk are same

D:

[median spade]

Same, and I used to have that setup but gave myself extra space for my work stuff now haha

been nice

[harsh dove]

It’s nice to have things separated for mental clarity

When you walk into the office you know it’s time to work, when you walk into the game room you know it’s time to relax

It’s like imagine having your office in your bedroom

[rough wagon]

Anyone available to help me make sure I set up my Wooting correctly?

With the tofu 60 redux

[waxen bane]

Theres a case swap tutorial on the official wooting youtube

Easiest mod ever

[rough wagon]

I’m new to this stuff and have anxiety lmao

[bleak steeple]

jeez 28 for shipping, hmm. i might, any reccomendations on things i should pick up just to have around for when needed? its my first time building a keeb so really any other needed tools i may need in the future would be nice to know about

[rough wagon]

So i start with the foam like this correct?

[median spade]

Yeah he's in korea so it's dhl express only

[bleak steeple]

ohh i see.

[harsh dove]

Yes

[rough wagon]

Ok where does this piece go?

[harsh dove]

Below the switch plate

[bleak steeple]

got any reccomendations for other tools i may need?

[median spade]

well

[rough wagon]

@harsh dove so do i put this in first or that foam piece first

[median spade]

if you still really want the tool kit from him that bad

[harsh dove]

Do case foam first

[median spade]

maybe the stab adjusters

[harsh dove]

So by default, this has the silicone layer between it

[rough wagon]

can i dm u so i don’t flood chat?

[median spade]

and they're sold out nvm

[harsh dove]

That foam layer is the other option you can use instead of the silicone @rough wagon

[bleak steeple]

yeah i saw someone talk about em and saw they were sold out a couple days ago

[harsh dove]

Nah it’s fine here, helps other people too if they have similar questions

[median spade]

blame me

i bought them with my addtional plate for my f1-8x

probablyh was me that sold it out

[bleak steeple]

:sob :

LOL

[rough wagon]

ok this is what i’m currently at @harsh dove

correct and next step?

[harsh dove]

Yep

[rough wagon]

ok now what

[harsh dove]

And someone will tell you to flip the foam so the usb cutout is lined up but it really doesn’t matter tbh

So now if you want, you can take apart the module and swap out the silicone layer in between for the foam layer you showed a minute ago

Or leave the module as is and put your switches in

[rough wagon]

ima just keep it how it is!

[harsh dove]

Yeah that’s fine

[rough wagon]

i think they did a good job with the module as is

[harsh dove]

Yeah it’s good as is

All personal preference

[rough wagon]

ok so now just screw in the module and put the switches?

[harsh dove]

Correct

[uncut musk]

the right side of this foams needs to be on the left side

[harsh dove]

Need is a strong word

[rough wagon]

like this? @uncut musk

ocd i get it lol fixed it

[harsh dove]

Yeah it lines up with the usb that way

[uncut musk]

cut out for the usb port right?

[harsh dove]

But like I said it doesn’t matter

It’ll still fit

[uncut musk]

True

but

like

[harsh dove]

I have mine swapped around in the “wrong” direction

Even badseedtech does it lol

In his modding video

[placid blaze]

oh hey double rail switches are on sale

how long have they been on sale :o

[uncut musk]

cams got delivered today

[rough wagon]

now just screw in? @harsh dove

[harsh dove]

Yessir

[uncut musk]

yuhhh

[harsh dove]

Only gonna need 4 screws since we didn’t have you use any standoffs @rough wagon

Two on each side

[rough wagon]

ok one sec

do i use the gold screws for anything

or just the silver?

[uncut musk]

gold ones are the standoffs

[harsh dove]

Those are standoffs and they are optional

Don’t need to use them

(Brass ones)

[rough wagon]

if i did use them where would the go and why?

[placid blaze]

case

[uncut musk]

LMAO

[harsh dove]

If you take the foam and module back out you’ll see screw holes that don’t come up like the rest in the middle and near the spacebar

Again, optional mounting points

Not needed if you don’t want too

[rough wagon]

ohhh ok

[harsh dove]

I personally use only two screws

But I’m different so

[rough wagon]

ok so the 4 screws go into the 2 holes and i’m assuming to the left and right of the holes

[harsh dove]

Yessir

These 4 holes

[rough wagon]

ty!

[harsh dove]

No problem

[rough wagon]

?

oh LOL

[harsh dove]

lol

(On phone at work)

https://tenor.com/view/wink-eye-wink-gif-12352742718877841322

[uncut musk]

im stupid didnt even see this

[rough wagon]

ok it’s all screwed in!

switches now

[harsh dove]

I told you someone will

[rough wagon]

do i just pop them in

also are the l45s lubed from factory?

[harsh dove]

Yes

[uncut musk]

are you planning on testing out the new switches tn when you get home?

[rough wagon]

is there a specific way to do this or do i just shove them in lmao i’m paranoid

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[rough wagon]

i know the orientation just wanna be sure i force them in

[uncut musk]

yeah'

[harsh dove]

Don’t be too rough but they should have an audible click

[rough wagon]

hm maybe i’m not putting enough pressure

not going in

[harsh dove]

Yeah it takes a little bit of force

[rough wagon]

do u push from the top?

[harsh dove]

Yes

Straight down

[rough wagon]

ok there we go

brb lol

[uncut musk]

they are def a little tough to get in lol

[harsh dove]

Especially the first time

[uncut musk]

mhm

also pulling them out the first time as well lmao

[harsh dove]

If you ever take switches out, it’s much easier if you unscrew the PCB from the switch plate and then remove the switches

[uncut musk]

🤞 the new switches are good

I think ill be buying a GMK set this month at some point

[harsh dove]

Any idea which set?

[rough wagon]

i just noticed there’s a screw hole in the middle, do i screw in there too for 5 screws?? @harsh dove

[bronze grove]

Not used on the 60HE.

[rough wagon]

okay so i don’t need to use that one?

ok here she is before the keycaps lol

[harsh dove]

No, that’s one of the optional locations I mentioned for the brass standoffs

Not needed unless wanted

[rough wagon]

mansen said its not used so i’m leave it

[harsh dove]

Yep yep

[uncut musk]

currently either gmk lavenders or tuzis

also trying to decide if id like a full purple set or not

[harsh dove]

Ah okay nice

[rough wagon]

all done!

[harsh dove]

Awesome!

Congrats

[mystic pumice]

I never really done any serious mods on a keyboard before but I gotta say the stock 60HE with Jade switches sound incredible

[old swallow]

just all stock case and everything just jades?

[mystic pumice]

Yep ONLY Jades are non stock

Really thocky

[old swallow]

ok ok, nice.

[rough wagon]

the l45s sounds so crisp and nice

[mystic pumice]

The woble on the lekkers are just too much for me

[old swallow]

the newer lekkers arent as bad, but still more wobly then the jades

[mystic pumice]

I only tried the Lekker 60 switches

[old swallow]

ive got the old Lekker60's and te revamped Lekker45's and the jades

jades are best thats what im using in main board, then second board ive got the new lekker45's, which are still much better then the old 60 imo

[mystic pumice]

But switching the switches with Gateron switch puller v2 made it a piece of cake.

I was too scared to take the whole board apart like Wooting suggests on their youtube

[old swallow]

yeah i get that, if youre new to modding doing something like that can be kinda scary

[mystic pumice]

Did not even know they did a rework of the L45s

[old swallow]

i didnt really take my 60HE apart until i got the module, but that was also because 1 of the screw was stripped

[mystic pumice]

Are they much better than the old version?

[old swallow]

not like a V2, but just small updates on the tolerances and them being better lubed then at first

[cunning nimbus]

Raptor HE’s or Jades?

[old swallow]

jades

[mystic pumice]

Jades are considered much better by the masses

[old swallow]

Less stem woble, better sound, and same magnet as the lekkers, the raptor magnets are stronger so its a bit tricky adjusting thing in wootility

only thing is that Jades are only 3.5mm travel compared to lekker and raptors 4.0mm, which you might not like, personally i do

[cunning nimbus]

Word I’ve been using the Raptors for months but if Jades are objectively better I think I’m going to order some

[mystic pumice]

And jades are made from Gateron so same company as the switches the stock comes with

[untold wigeon]

with the jades are they prelubed and if so, is it the same prelube as the stock lekker ones with wooting or is it a bit better?

[old swallow]

they are the best pre lubed HE switches

[mystic pumice]

Yes Jades are prelubed

Even better lubed than Lekker

[old swallow]

im just using stock jades and theyre great

[untold wigeon]

awesome as much as i like the sound after i lubed the stock switches they arent 100% the sound i want

[old swallow]

HE offcourse wont get you the same sound that normal switches would, but you can definetly get a better sound with mods

[harsh dove]

Just wait unless you’re going for that specific Jade sound

[mystic pumice]

You looking for click or thock sound?

[stable kindle]

@harsh dove i just woke up from my nap, imma start working on mine. im next in line for help LOL

[untold wigeon]

thock

[harsh dove]

XD

[mystic pumice]

Jades are very very thocky

[old swallow]

wait, youre woothelp now cam? since when. or were you already and am i dumb

[mystic pumice]

I have completly stock 60HE with ONLY jades and it is the thockiest keyboard I have tried

[untold wigeon]

awesome, guess im picking some up on payday lol

i have the alumaze and some white keycaps coming on monday

[mystic pumice]

You need a Beta version of Wootility if you want the Jades new length to not become a problem

If I am not mistaken

[untold wigeon]

are they longer/ shorter so the acuation distance wont be accurate or something?

[mystic pumice]

Because Lekker is 4mm in lenght and jades are 3.5

[untold wigeon]

ah

[mystic pumice]

But after an update of Wootility it works perfect again

[old swallow]

im just using old version and it still works aswell, but since the travel distance is shorter it doesnt say that in wootility

[mystic pumice]

It still says 4mm for me as well but going down to 0.5 actuation still is 0.5mm actuation on the switches

[old swallow]

its pretty much that if you set your travel to 4mm in wootility it activates at 3.5 because that is the bottom out still

[untold wigeon]

so with my dks would i just havwe to adjust my a uation points down .5mm or it would work fine how it is

[old swallow]

ive got the jades and my windows key is set to 4mm for actuation, but i still hit it even tho i cant go under 3.5

[cunning nimbus]

Wait for what? 👀

[old swallow]

well, there might be lekker V2 soon, but nothing official yet

[mystic pumice]

They should let you adjust yourself how long your switch is in Wootility

Would make it easier to understand

[old swallow]

true, but you should pretty much just see it as a percentage kinda, so 4mm in wootility is 100%, so 3.5 on jades is 100%,

[untold wigeon]

that makes more sense

[mystic pumice]

If I have a stock 60HE with ONLY Jades as my mod then what would be an easy and cheap mod that could make my board sound even more thocky?

[cunning nimbus]

Gotcha well the Jades are on Amazon so I can just give them a shot and return them if anything

[old swallow]

wait what, didnt know those were on amazon

[mystic pumice]

Can't find them on German Amazon tho

[old swallow]

maybe US, cause i cant find on NL amazon either

[cunning nimbus]

https://a.co/d/eqc4GEF

[old swallow]

oh yeah, guess they are on US site

[cunning nimbus]

Yeah this is Amazon US

[harsh dove]

I had an evolution

Like a Pokémon

[old swallow]

damn, wheres my evolution 😠

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/riolu-lucario-pokemon-riolu-pokemon-lucario-riolu-evolves-gif-24246556

[old swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-anime-pikachu-whos-that-pokemon-gif-1594688352208299494

[mystic pumice]

I got them from Gaterons own website. They gave me some test switches and a free t-shirt because I asked in the order description lmao

[old swallow]

yeah i got them there aswell, didnt ask for a tshirt tho haha

[stable kindle]

anyone try shrink wrap on their stablizers?

seems like a better idea than plumbers or holee mod

[harsh dove]

Warm and moist as Jade

This is great

[old swallow]

how i feel when i see cam in keyboard modding my beloved

i mean what

[harsh dove]

Funny how it says custom spring too like they can’t tell us what it is

Just like their black inks housing material

[old swallow]

iiiiiiits custoooooooooom

[harsh dove]

Don’t wanna tell us

[old swallow]

isa secret

[mystic pumice]

Maybe it is patented?

[old swallow]

well, you cant copy it if you dont know what it is...soooo

cause i dont think they can patent switch materials

maybe, but idk

[stable kindle]

so any thoughts on the shrink wrap?

[old swallow]

toughts, sounds like a bad idea. but who knows, im an idiot, so probably shouldnt listen to me

[stable kindle]

thanks man, i really appreciate that useless input

@old swallowthoughts on why you think it might be a bad idea?

[old swallow]

👍 youre welcome

[stable kindle]

ok then .. XD

[old swallow]

i am think

cant tell

[stable kindle]

LOL

[old swallow]

.....

[stable kindle]

i was thinking the holee mod might be a bad idea

[old swallow]

bad vibes

haha

[stable kindle]

thats fair

[old swallow]

only 1 way to find out

[stable kindle]

i dont see too many videos on it

i see one 40 min video claiming it to be better than the plumbers mod

[mystic pumice]

Anyone tried the kinetic sand mod?

[old swallow]

dont

[stable kindle]

that seems like a bad idea

[old swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-like-sand-pocket-sand-anakin-gif-18419382

huh, not what i meant to sand

[stable kindle]

but who knows, im an idiot, so probably shouldnt listen to me

[old swallow]

hey, thats my thing

[mystic pumice]

Lmao xD

[untold wigeon]

I’m not sure if this is the right place to ask but I accidentally scratch the board while taking off the screws. Will this do damage to the board?

[old swallow]

well, if its scratched its technically damaged, but you would just have to check if it will still work without issues, hard to tell this way

[mystic pumice]

If the scratch is over a used PCB solder lane then yes

If the scratch is on a solder lane that is not in use then you are Gucci

But best way to figure it out is like how Strukeduker said. Test it

[old swallow]

hey you actually spelled it correct, since people kept misspelling it anyways i decided to make it even more difficult with the letters haha

[mystic pumice]

Lmao a lot of German places have something that sounds similar-ish to your name so it was not too hard to read

[old swallow]

hmmm, being from the NL i am kinda intrigued in what places sound simmilar

[mystic pumice]

NL? Netherlands?

[old swallow]

yeah

[mystic pumice]

I am Danish so even though we use a Scandinavian language, our neighbors are either also Scandinavian or Germanic

So I can kinda tell the difference between German and Dutch (Afrikaans too to an extent)

[old swallow]

its not actually dutch, its frisian.which is even more simmilar to german then dutch is tbh

[mystic pumice]

Southern Danish Dialect is a mix of Danish, German and Frisian. (Nobody understands Southern Danes lmao)

[untold wigeon]

I’m not very knowledgeable about keyboards in general but what should I look out for?

[old swallow]

well, just test it and see if the keys all activate still

[mystic pumice]

You see those small lines on the Board? Those are solder lanes and transmit power and info

If they are scratched then they are damaged. But not every lane is in use

Best way to figure out if everything works is to rebuild the board and check if everything works that way

[untold wigeon]

So rgb and key response?

[old swallow]

yeah, pretty much

[mystic pumice]

It could be whatever

It a scratch happens near the USB C connecter then maybe no power at all. If a scatch is near only buttons then maybe only RGB and button function

Depends on where the damage is and what is connected to that lane

Lanes are like wires built inside the PCB itself

[untold wigeon]

It’s more to the left side so probably the keys

[mystic pumice]

Probably but if the scratch hasn't removed the connection between the solder then it may work just fine

[untold wigeon]

Someone told me I should try tape modding a 2he and I’m not even sure if it works

[old swallow]

i would just test it, if it works then dont worry about it, if you have issues then i would come back here and ask for more help

[untold wigeon]

Alright

[old swallow]

cause now youre worried about something that might not be an issue at all, but you wont know till you do

[mystic pumice]

This is a PCB board without the black coat on it

The long lanes you see are connectors and they work just like a wire (info, data, power, everything)

Only when the whole wire is broken is when it is broken, a small scratch could mean it still works fine.

But like Strukeduker said. Test it before you worry about it because on my old GTX 1070 Graphics card I scratched the PCB and it worked fine for many years

[old swallow]

"the long wires you see are connectors and they work just like a wire " aah yes, the floor here is made out fo floor

hehe

[mystic pumice]

I just fixed to

Meant to say "work just like a USB wire" lmao

[old swallow]

haha fair

[stray tiger]

That scratch isn't an issue

[mystic pumice]

maybe even "physical wire" would work idk I ain't native english lmao

[stray tiger]

Most PCBs have a protective coating over the traces and that scratch doesn't appear to be very deep. I think you'll be fine

[mystic pumice]

Exactly what I was thinking

[old swallow]

yeah, no need to worry until you know it doesnt work

[mystic pumice]

I also worried too much when ordering Jades because I thought I needed to buy new stabs and lube for the stabs etc etc lmao

[old swallow]

aah yeah, the old you need new stabs for jades. someone said that and then everyone who ordered them asked if you needed new stabs

[mystic pumice]

But I learned I only needed those if I wanted to use some types of different keycaps

[old swallow]

i was convinced by cam to get jades, i was just asking questions about it and saw his sound test, so that was all the convincing i needed

[mystic pumice]

Only a few types of keycaps actually require you to change to a 1.6mm long pole stab

[old swallow]

yeah, but it just started the whole rumour that it couldnt be used normally

[mystic pumice]

I thought soo too

Glad I just got the Jades and did not waste a bunch of extra money and time

[old swallow]

yeah, i was tempted to get the raptors before the jades came out, but i was holding on for a bit since i already had lekkers on order to go in my new build, but then jades released and i have a set of lekkers sitting in a box

[mystic pumice]

Are the Raptors any good? I may get the 80HE and want different switches than the Jades I have in my 60HE

[old swallow]

yeah, they arent bad i believe, less stem woble then the lekkers, and sound pretty good i think, but stronger magnet so you gotta configure it differently in wootility

[mystic pumice]

Are the Dual Rails good?

[old swallow]

next cam sound test coming to a keyboard modding channel near you soon

[harsh dove]

Bro chill

Lemme put em in first

[mystic pumice]

I thought it was like a little older picture lmao

[harsh dove]

Nah lol I just got home

[mystic pumice]

Lmao aight

[old swallow]

make sure to give feedback to the wooting team to see if its a good upgrade for the lekker V2's

[mystic pumice]

Wont the red housing defuse some of the light tho?

[old swallow]

tbf, they probably got some there or on order aswell

[harsh dove]

Wooting is ahead of the game, that’s all I can say

[old swallow]

yeah, it does somewhat, i think someone posted a video of the RGB with the red housing

maybe cam, dont remember who it was

[old swallow]

oooohh

[harsh dove]

Yeah I did

RGB isn’t that bad, just have to adjust your colors for accuracy

[old swallow]

i know that jeroen was teasing new lekkers on the wooting live today, but nothing official

[old swallow]

i was thinking on getting some for the board where i just use the red RGB effect only anyways, but i dont need another set of switches just sitting there

[harsh dove]

Gonna take all these apart and examine housing and what not and see how the factory lube is

[teal parcel]

lol from what you see was it worth it

[harsh dove]

It’s always worth it for me

[old swallow]

i would like to see 3.5mm with closed bottom for new lekkers, but idk if wooting want to go for the shorter travel distance

[teal parcel]

lol all those switches you got for the he

[old swallow]

the wootwhale himself

[teal parcel]

doing work

[mystic pumice]

I LOVE the 60HE with 3.5 travel

[old swallow]

cam, do you just have a cabinet full of switch containers?

[teal parcel]

are they less wobbly as speculated?

[mystic pumice]

Probably a basement full

[harsh dove]

No, but I have a closet

Actually two closets and two sheds

Tbf

[old swallow]

damn, didnt know you were gay.... oh you mean full of switches

[mystic pumice]

The Jades have very little woble, no clue about the dual-rails tho

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/gotword-deeznuts-gottem-deez-nuts-gif-4394929

[old swallow]

yep, i dont care too much about sound tbh, im usually gaming with headphones anyways, but they just feel nice to use

[mystic pumice]

I also use headset 95% of the time but when I do homework I have no headset on so I think the sound is a plus

[harsh dove]

When you get dual rails, you forget what wobble is