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[languid kestrel]

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[wispy hazel]

https://wooting.io/product/wooting-take-control-5-sided-dye-sub-pbt-keycaps

Does this ever gonna get Nordic layout?

[bronze grove]

No plans for right now.

[normal schooner]

ooh i misread nordic just iso

[bronze grove]

Nordic just isn't big enough of a market to justify these special keycaps. Very expensive initial investment.

I feel your pain - Dane here 😄

[normal schooner]

there will be iso uk and de eventually

right?

[bronze grove]

I... think so?

[normal schooner]

will ask next livestream

[bronze grove]

An excellent question to ask during a live stream 😄

Yeah 😄

[wispy hazel]

Is ANSI and nordic same pcb layout?

just wondering

[normal schooner]

no

[wispy hazel]

I might not need them to read ÖÄÅ etc

hmm

[bronze grove]

You'll need an ISO based keycap set.

For the L shaped enter and so on.

[wispy hazel]

take control looks so good

may I ask why Alumaze60 concrete gray is 10 euros more than other options?

and Is there some video where can I hear difference between alumaze and with and without PC Switch Plate Kit

[bronze grove]

It's because it uses a different manufacturing method for the finish, which is more complex and thus a bit pricier. 🙂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjIHyIxfUwA

I don't think we have a video specifically of the alumaze and PC plate kit, but we do have one for the stock case.

[wispy hazel]

thank you very much

[sage mirage]

it feal so good though

feels like cramic

[wispy hazel]

This might sound stupid but is there difference between white and black PC Switch Plate Kit? 😅

[bronze grove]

Only the colour 🙂

[wispy hazel]

😭 thought so

[light hawk]

I am ready guys 😎 (gmk modo2 keycaps not in photo)

[sage mirage]

nice thoughs jades

[harsh dove]

Black one makes you a better gamer

[stray tiger]

false. more rgb makes you a better gamer so white

[harsh dove]

Incorrect. Misinformation.

[thick mural]

the finish on the black pc plate is amazing

[stray tiger]

kind of digging this https://mekibo.com/products/keykobo-moon-rabbit

[uncut musk]

hmmm

the blue and white is nice

[devout torrent]

gonna pretend its gundam themed

[gusty mist]

After loosening the connections between wire and stab housing problem still occurs. Improved on some but got worse on others, even though wires are def looser now.
Starting to suspect caps or PC plate fit issues, because idk how I could have installed them wrong.
There seems to be a noticeable difference in the action of the stuck stabs, they sort of "hitch" about halfway down

When no keycap is installed the stabs aren't loose, but not difficult to move like they were originally. Don't notice the "hitching" or bumps in the action when no cap installed either.

[harsh dove]

Did you get a black plate by chance?

[harsh dove]

These are nice

[harsh dove]

For context, are you using the module, with wooting pc plate, with tx ap screw ins or clip ins?

[gusty mist]

Correct, module with PC plate and TX AP long pole screw in

[harsh dove]

Thank you

Just takin note of people with issues so far

I will be getting my tx ap clip ins tomorrow

I have have the module and various pc plates

Mine are not long pole or screw in

[mental salmon]

2 white and 1 black PC plates

[harsh dove]

Yes

[mental salmon]

Will be the same for me, but I only have one 60HE 😅

[devout torrent]

@tawdry tree I think you were asking about where HE sensors are one ATK68 right? Drunkdeer posted about their new keyboard and it does seem like ther are integrated LED + HE sensors

[gusty mist]

Tested with known good caps and still sticking. Not sure where to go from here. Manually moving stabs feels fine after loosening wires up so idk why it feels so bad once caps go on.

Looking closer at the plate shows that it’s bending around the stabs, maybe this is putting the switch slightly off center and causing opposite side of stab to bind

[stray tiger]

I didnt. I usually just turn RGB off so it's not a concern for me.

[stray tiger]

Turn the cap around and try it. Sometimes there may be slight warping that causes this

[gusty mist]

It still occurs when tested with caps that work fine on other stabs

[stray tiger]

Is it all stabs or just one?

[harsh dove]

I don’t use RGB either but I like the black between the gaps even tho with GMK the gaps are almost nonexistent

[stray tiger]

I get it. Makes it look nice and sleek

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[gusty mist]

It was all of them originally (1 returned but barely). I took them off and reinserted the wires maybe 20 times for each housing and they became noticeably looser. However once the cap goes on they don't go straight down smoothly and won't return at all. Currently LShift and space return mostly OK but others stick hard.

[stray tiger]

These are the stock stabs?

[gusty mist]

TX AP (long pole) screw in

[stray tiger]

yesterday @tawdry tree mentioned his TX screw-ins also did not fit well. So this might be a TX issue.

[gusty mist]

I saw that discussion but gave up trying to follow it because I thought they were talking about plate mount. Now that I look closer I think you're correct, this might be TX tolerance issue.

These stabs were highly recommended, but I guess that was only with those using plate mount on prebuilt

Can anybody confirm they're successful using screw in TX AP stabs on module?

[stray tiger]

Yeah, the plate mount ones work fine but they also dont have to worry about cut-out clearance. Youre now the 2nd or 3rd person to say the screw-ins have an issue. I know that @harsh dove is testing the clip-ins this weekend to check those.

[agile grove]

thats odd that screw in specifically doesnt work. badseed used TX AP clip ins and those worked just fine for him. I wonder if they changed the molding up a bit between the two.

[stray tiger]

Yeah who knows. If Cam confirms the clip-ins work fine then I think we can safely say it's TX screw-ins only. However I'd also like to know if it affects only the PC plate or the steel plate as well.

[thick mural]

screw ins seem to warp slightly when screwed in tight

[agile grove]

my module arrives soon so I'll be able to test my clip ins

would suck if they didnt work lol

[thick mural]

my plate came today so time to use my new module with new stabs n switches

bought some jades too, gonna compare them to raptors

[stray tiger]

If that's the case @gusty mist could try loosening them a bit just to see if that's what's causing the problem.

[thick mural]

i noticed it with the stock module stabs

loosening them slightly fixes it but even warped, the stock ones are fine, must be the tolerances on tx stabs being a bit tighter

[stray tiger]

Well that would explain why clip-ins don't have an issue. I'll wait for Matt to test it out

[agile grove]

its possible, the tolerences are pretty tight on TX APs and if it gets warped I could see them having way too much friction or just getting stuck entirely

[gusty mist]

Will test ASAP thanks guys

On-call for work atm and everything is on fire lol

[thick mural]

np

[untold wigeon]

Sup I received the 60He+ module and I was looking at case compatibility, is just what is the difference between Tofu 60 and redux and which one should I get?

[gusty mist]

Just want to fix keeb despair

[thick mural]

redux offers a brass weight and also allows you to align the usb cutout correctly

[upper tusk]

Guys what is the absolute best modding for this keyboard i dont really care about the budget I just want it to sound good or should i wait for the wooting 80 and mod that one?

[untold wigeon]

💪💪💪thanks mane imma get this one then

[upper tusk]

And do i need to lube the switches or is it already lubed?

[bronze grove]

Factory lubed, up to you if you want more lube.

[harsh dove]

I’ll test both plates

Unless you’re meaning screw ins

Then I cannot test unless I buy some

[uneven linden]

I just used tx ap long pole clip ins and they work great

Are the standoffs on the pc plate removable?

The standoffs make the o ring kind of hard to fit in but it does eventually work

[median spade]

nah

they are injected into the plate

[harsh dove]

I’ll test wooting steel and pc plates with the tx ap clip ins regardless tho just for science

[median spade]

I have my ap stabs in the steel plate right now

and the are a bit slower to return

[harsh dove]

Clip ins?

[median spade]

oh no sorry thought you mean the plate mount ones

[harsh dove]

Oh no

No worries

[uneven linden]

Yeah it didn’t look like it was possible without dremeling it off

[median spade]

indeed

[empty linden]

Any one know will this solve the issue if I use the gateron magnetic jade, thx

[agile grove]

I wouldnt recommend buying long pole stabs before testing out to see if you have any issues

[gusty mist]

No luck. Still sticking when completely loose

What's odd is even though the plate is bending around the stab, I put a switch in and stab is still loose. Once keycap is on it binds up and wont return.

However, if I take the left shift keycap with working stabs and put it on the right shift, stabs stick

[glacial wind]

do you have any other keycaps you can test?

[gusty mist]

Yes I have already stated that same issue occurs with confirmed good caps

[stray tiger]

Then as we mentioned earlier, it just might be an issue with TX screw-ins as you would now be #3 to report a problem with the plate binding or being too tight with TX screw-ins.

[gusty mist]

Yeah I agree but what would the issue be

If it's not binding because of the stab housing being compressed

Idk what else it could be

[stray tiger]

Likely the same issue Ive run into with staebies and its the the tolerances are so tight (in an effort to reduce any wobble) that they sometimes are just too tight.

With tolerances that tight, even a .1mm off in the housing or the plate could cause a problem

[gusty mist]

But here's my confusion:

• Stab works fine with a keycap installed and NO switch
• Stab works fine with a switch installed and NO caps

But when both installed it wont budge

[stray tiger]

Someone else 2 days ago solved the problem by shaving off the plate cut-out slightly. I dont suggest that as its a destructive fix but it would likely fix your issue.

[gusty mist]

I disagree

If plate fit was the issue the stab would be binding with switch installed and no cap

[stray tiger]

Hmm... I see your point and the only counter I would have to that would be that with the switch in, which forces alignment of all 3, its just enough to cause it to bind up.

[gusty mist]

Yeah I'm not trying to argue it's just baffling

[harsh dove]

Makes me wanna buy screw ins

[gusty mist]

Also frustrating bc these stabs have a lot nicer action than stock

[stray tiger]

I agree. I dont know the real reason, just speculation. Ive only ever tested with the plate mount TX stabs and I only own the clip-ins that I could test with.

[gusty mist]

Like what's the point of being compatible with screw ins if they don't fit industry standard stabs

[agile grove]

I have a theory

maybe the keycap is pulling the stem of the stab causing it to bind

[midnight rock]

Hello

[gusty mist]

I have to assume it's some alignment issue between the switch and stab. Because good keycaps still have this issue

[midnight rock]

Does anyone know any website that sells iso nordic keycaps but also ships them to Canada

Odd request i know

[stray tiger]

Well like I said, the TX and the staebies push the envelope a little which decreases tolerances. Id be willing to bet that you could throw in durock, cherry, gateron or almost any other brand screw-in stab and they would work fine.

[agile grove]

pretty sure wootng uses gateron

[stray tiger]

I havent looked at the screw-in's yet so could be.

[midnight rock]

Like everything i find that ships to canada is ansi and i'd need iso nordic

So any help would be appreciated 🙂

[stray tiger]

Im not an ISO guy myself but I do think there are some CA vendors who sell ISO keycap sets

maybe try deskhero.ca or wasdkeyboards.com

[misty rivet]

1st party "mods" vs 3rd party mods

[midnight rock]

Why did I have to marry a dane... them and their wierd alphabet xd

[harsh dove]

Bought them for science

[stray tiger]

Both sound great but you should also post up a 2nd party mod video. And maybe a larger primary monitor for monketype.

[midnight rock]

Thank you btw @stray tiger

Appreciate the help

[stray tiger]

Hope that works out

[harsh dove]

Can’t help myself

[stray tiger]

Sounds like kin25 should make a Rev 5 because rev 4 has some problems

[harsh dove]

Right

3day shipping so I’ll let you guys know what I find

[stray tiger]

To be fair, they are called "Almost Perfect" not perfect

[harsh dove]

Hahaha exactly

Idk how people miss that

[stray tiger]

Extreme truth in advertising lol

[harsh dove]

Literally

[agile grove]

TX P stabs when

[desert moth]

Hey, guys i got my wooting today. Can i deactivate the windows key?

[stray tiger]

Yes you can.

[desert moth]

I cant find it

[agile grove]

this isnt the right channel to ask but

[stray tiger]

Or you can just remap it all together.

[desert moth]

lol

thanks

everything else is working like before?

[stray tiger]

yes

[proven tendon]

magnetic jade vs raptor he with stem swap

[harsh dove]

Jades all day

[azure jacinth]

I went with jades and absolutely love them

[proven tendon]

Does anyone have a sound test comparison

[harsh dove]

I do hold on

Here’s raptors

Also this

Jades

[tawdry tree]

The 60HE+ supports screw in stabs.

[gusty mist]

Though apparently not TX AP screw-ins

[tawdry tree]

I used APs once before and didn’t have this.

[gusty mist]

I have all but confirmed that the stab housings being compressed by the plate/switch is NOT causing the issues.

[tawdry tree]

Yes it should, the plate is too tight for “some” TX stabs to fit, screw ins, clip ins and plate mounts

[gusty mist]

Seems most likely that it's alignment problems between switch stems and stab stems. But only evidence for that is this - I'll quote from my msg above:

• Stab works fine with a keycap installed and NO switch
• Stab works fine with a switch installed and NO caps
  But when both installed it wont budge

[stray tiger]

Yeah, not quite sure. Looks like you baited Cam into buying some screw-ins to test next week and he is testing clips-in this weekend

[tawdry tree]

Yeah very interesting!

[gusty mist]

@tawdry tree did you end up going back to stock stabs or waiting on a solution for TX?

[stray tiger]

He is waiting for TX P stabs instead of AP stabs.

[tawdry tree]

Went beck to stock and waiting on my staebies to test next.

[tawdry tree]

Do you have screw ins or plate mounts again?

[gusty mist]

Screw-in

[tawdry tree]

I think I know the problem

[stray tiger]

Out of the oil into the fire. Staebies have been my most problematic hehe. They will probably work great though.

[tawdry tree]

Moment

[gusty mist]

Reluctant to put in stock because there's so much more rattle

Maybe better once relubed

[stray tiger]

100% better relubed and if you have a syringe (you should get one) you can tune them really well.

[uncut musk]

ngl the stock screw ins on the module seem good, esp the stabs for the space bar

the escape one and the left shit need some tuning

[waxen bane]

Idk if it’s just me but the only one I have an issue with is the right shift on my module

[sage mirage]

if you used jades you wil need to oring on the stab for the long term

[gusty mist]

stock caps are so tight I rly don't think it's necessary

fuckers are pulling my switches out

[waxen bane]

So do I need o rings for jades or not

[sage mirage]

i ment for custom stuff but you might want the oring anyway cause after long term use it might get deformed

[agile grove]

stock lube will almost always be inconsistent, you're better off tuning or even just lubing them normally

[harsh dove]

No

[sage mirage]

i did it for every stab casue it make not feel or sound diffrenc with the oring on the stab but it helkp the balance as it cont get onesided after long term use

[agile grove]

no

[gusty mist]

Well ideally the high quality stabs I bought would work but apparently tolerances on this board are just shit

[tawdry tree]

If you don’t shave off the outer edge on both sides of the plate highlighted in green here, the plate will cause both stabs to be pushed towards each other thus shortening the distance between the two, the wire and keycap will push the stab stem outward resulting in a too tight or unusable stab.

[harsh dove]

Use your jades on regular stabs, see if you have issues

If you do, try o ring

[agile grove]

theres almost no sound difference between stock stabs and TX AP stabs, just lube your stabs and you'll be go to go

[tawdry tree]

Well, third time is the charm so they might not work this time 🥲.

[stray tiger]

I have faith

[sage mirage]

i mean over time the key (spacebar) will move depending on how hard you game an press down on the keyboard

[tawdry tree]

Varies per user.

[uncut musk]

also was going to ask are these switches like really hard to pull out/put in compared to regular mech switches or am i just weak

[harsh dove]

Literally no sound difference, tx ap just requires less tuning normally because they’re tighter

[agile grove]

probably the latter

[uncut musk]

lmao

[gusty mist]

This isn't the case for me. Stabs work fine with no switch and keycap installed. Stabs work fine with switch and no keycap installed.

[agile grove]

exactly

TX AP stabs are just better stock

[sage mirage]

god the jades do sound amazing

[uncut musk]

these new cable colors need to get here faster than they are planning for them to be

[tawdry tree]

Check if the stabs work outside the plate with a keycap, if they do then it’s probably what I said. If not, it might the that your keycap stems are too thick foe the stab housing. 🤣

[sage mirage]

LOL

[uncut musk]

ngl these switch taped lekkers sound real nice

[gusty mist]

Brother please read, they work fine INSIDE the plate with a keycap

[uncut musk]

compared to the non taped versions

[tawdry tree]

thought you meant no switch and keycap 😂

do you use stock keycaps?

[gusty mist]

Yeah stock, but also tested with caps that don't have stab issue on other board

So in my case I've ruled out warped caps and housing compression issues

Technically the plate compressing housings could still be causing it ONLY IF it's causing the stab stems to go out of alignment with the switch stem

Which is very possible considering the only case where stab gets stuck is when ALL THREE keycap + stab + switch are installed

[glacial wind]

Keep in mind keycaps don’t have stab issues with all stabs if they have warping

[gusty mist]

Ok but i think it's fair to say caps are fine if 2 sets of caps work on another board and 2 sets of caps do not work on this board

[tawdry tree]

Then it wouldn’t work with just the stabs so my only guess is with the switch installed the stems of the stabs don’t exactly align with the holes of the keycap.

[tawdry tree]

My stock caps are fine with the APs

[agile grove]

mattzz are you sure your TX APs dont have some sorta molding issue?

[glacial wind]

For example none of my lower quality keycaps work on my tx ap stabs in my zoom75 due to warping and the more precise tolerance

But those same keycaps all work fine on my wooting stock stabs because those stabs are a bit looser

[tawdry tree]

They work w/o switch

[gusty mist]

My left shift works but when i move the cap to another stab it binds up

[tawdry tree]

^

[gusty mist]

Yeah ^^ prevailing theory

Plate just has bad tolerances

Maybe we should wait for Cam to get his so somebody else can attest to this, but prob should be reported to Wooting

[tawdry tree]

Does your plate not look like this when you put your stabs through? With the plate “pins” all bent outwards

[gusty mist]

It does #🔧│keyboard_modding message

[tawdry tree]

It’s what I said 100%

They’re off center from where they normally should be in any other plate.

[gusty mist]

Good thing we can just buy the premium plate from wooting
oh wait

we have it

[tawdry tree]

😂

I’m not quite sure why this happens yet though

Cause there are standards to this shit

[gusty mist]

I understand tight tolerances but this is ridiculous it's not even close

[gusty mist]

exactly

[tawdry tree]

And I’m pretty sure Woot used just cherry standards

[gusty mist]

I'm reporting it

[tawdry tree]

I did in feedback already

[tawdry tree]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1202064549092794378

[crystal hornet]

So I just got my 60 he but I’m not sure which o-rings I should use

[tawdry tree]

Both are the same but a different color.

Actually

Is one foam?

[crystal hornet]

One is like a silicone feel and the other is kinda hard

[tawdry tree]

Interesting, well both have the same use

To put on your case’s stand offs

and on the top of your PCB

[crystal hornet]

The stand offs of the case

[gusty mist]

Love the response you got, that's rly helpful

[tawdry tree]

😂😂

[gusty mist]

"Just take a fuckin file to it day 1"

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/woodworking-patlap-sanding-woodsanding-gif-26143022

[agile grove]

my question is: why is this only happening with screw in stabs?

TX AP clip in have been reported to work just fine

[gusty mist]

I have no fear of minor DIY but this is an industry standard product. Either TX AP screw-ins or PC plate is not up to spec

[tawdry tree]

Not, one report with clip ins and another with plate mounted.

[agile grove]

weird, because a good few people have used TX AP clip in with no issues here

maybe they changed the molding a bit or something?

[tawdry tree]

Yeah that’s what I’m trying to understand as well.

[tawdry tree]

I doubt it as the first guy to adres this said it over a month ago

[agile grove]

weird

I wonder if they have a few different molds or something

and depending on the batch you could get screwed over

[tawdry tree]

Yeah that’s what I thought as well but then I’d think you’d have a couple that work and some that don’t.

And none work

[gusty mist]

Screw-in mold is bad or TX QA/QC is bad

Or wooting plate is bad

[agile grove]

could be a wooting plate issue

yk I wonder actually

I've seen people in the EU use them just fine, but now that NA clouds is getting theirs people are having issues?

[tawdry tree]

some with a 3rd party plate should lay them on top of each other and compare the holes.

[gusty mist]

Honestly probably combo of both. In theory if Wooting makes stab holes tight for snug fit and TX makes housing large for snug fit this would happen

From what I can tell the stock and TX housings are the same size but I don't have a micrometer on hand

[tawdry tree]

True but then either or both would’ve disbanded the standard which isn’t really smart to do if you want broad compatibility.

[stray tiger]

If it was the wooting plate though, this would be an issue with TX clip-ins AND other stab brands. But thats not the case.

At this point and time the only data we have says its a TX AP screw-in issue.

[agile grove]

yeah

[gusty mist]

Or the PC plate mold has changed with the module delivery

[tawdry tree]

Three people with screw ins reported this, one with clip ins and another with plate mounted.

[agile grove]

wouldnt be surprised if theres a mold difference between the two causing the issue

[agile grove]

my other theory was that the EU-Wolken batch had an ok batch of PC plates while NA-Clouds had a messed up batch

[iron bear]

Lol i did file a plate on a keyboard day 1 because of the stabilisers, are people new to this or?

[stray tiger]

Well with the hundreds who have replaced plate mount stabs, then this is sounding more and more likely like a TX brand issue. Has anyone said they have stab problem with any brand other than TX? I havent seen one

[tawdry tree]

TX stabs with Wooting’s plate?

[iron bear]

Not Wooting keeb

[tawdry tree]

Oh I see

[gusty mist]

I don't think many ppl have installed 3rd partry screw ins since modules just started being delivered

[stray tiger]

The TX and Staebie tolerances are very very tight. Its a thing. A known thing.

[tawdry tree]

I didn’t have to widen the plate before

[agile grove]

tbf I dont think people have really replaced stabs all that much since stock stabs are pretty damn good

[tawdry tree]

Thock do you have a 3rd party plate to compare the two? See if there’s a difference in hole sizes?

[agile grove]

however I havent heard any issues with stabs until now

[stray tiger]

There have been hundreds for sure. Not maybe yet on the module screw-ins, but for sure on the original

[iron bear]

I filed a steel plate because Durock V2s screw-ins wouldn't fit in it (Not Wooting)

[agile grove]

also TX plate mounts work fine aswell

[stray tiger]

Non-wooting to be clear

yes they do, or have for me

[agile grove]

it seems like TX AP might just have really bad QC issues

[iron bear]

All stabilisers are not made equal

[tawdry tree]

Could be QC but then again it’s so consistent.

Would make more sense if it was a change of mold

[gusty mist]

I think the first thing we need to figure out is if ANY replacement screw-ins have worked on the new 60HE+ board and PC plate

[agile grove]

tbh I think wooting PC plate is just tight and sensitive to these issues

[gusty mist]

I agree it points to TX QC issue

But could be something like the screw holes out of alignment

[iron bear]

I've not compared TX Stabs to Durocks sizewise

[agile grove]

tmk I dont think anyone else has switched out for other screw in since stock wooting ones are really solid

[gusty mist]

Although precision required to make a PCB would imply they can't fuck up hole placement LOL

[gusty mist]

Except for the Jade travel issue

[tawdry tree]

Your plate is deforming, like mine. It has to do with the stabs and plate, nothing else.

[gusty mist]

Pretty naive to assume that, but yes that's most likely.

[tawdry tree]

I don’t think it’s naive, just look at it 😂

[agile grove]

I think people use TX AP long pole clip in for that

[gusty mist]

Bro I know that but screw-in should be superior to clip in, i shouldn't have to get the exact same stabs with different attachment method

[agile grove]

also almost everyone has moved on from getting long pole stabs for jades

[tawdry tree]

Someone with clip ins reported this too, it’s not an only screw in issue.

[tawdry tree]

as they should.

[gusty mist]

Yeah which is why Luigi's msg is useless lol

Long pole is better solution than shoving an o-ring onto the stem lol

[agile grove]

wdym? which message?

[agile grove]

thats not what I meant actually, you dont need to do either

unless specifically you had issues I should add

[gusty mist]

Stating that people use long pole clip in to resolve the travel issue. I already have long pole stabs so obv I know this. You're suggesting replacing the stabs I already have with the same thing

[tawdry tree]

You don’t need long poles for jades by the way, that’s what I meant with as they should. Someone said it one day and everyone thought they had to use long poles.

[gusty mist]

I know they're not necessary but they're better and if I already wanted to upgrade stabs why not get the ones that better suit my build?

[agile grove]

I didnt suggest you replace the stabs? I said "tmk I dont think anyone else has switched out for other screw in since stock wooting ones are really solid" you said "Except for the Jade travel issue" then I said "I think people use TX AP long pole clip in for that." I was stating that even in the case of the jades, I dont think anyone has really switched out to other screw in stabs.

[gusty mist]

Also, I bought the stabs before module was delayed for 2 weeks and EU had time to do more testing

[agile grove]

they're not better?

[stray tiger]

If you plan to stick with Jades forever then maybe its a good decision. However with new magnetic switches coming out weekly, you might find way better switches coming soon that would require you to switch back to standard stabs.

[gusty mist]

How are stabs that match the travel distance of my switches not better for those switches. Please explain this logic

Actually dont

I don't wanna read ur msgs anymore LOL

[agile grove]

uh thats sorta rude but you do you ig

ok I more meant that they're not better in any really meaningful way, im sure if you stuck with the stock stabs you wouldnt have any issues.

most jade users use the stock stabs or regular stabs with no issues

[harsh dove]

Ok lunch break

What I miss

More stab skill issues ?

[tawdry tree]

Yes

[harsh dove]

Figured

[tawdry tree]

Cam do you have a 3rd party plate around that you can compare the stabs holes to by any chance?

[harsh dove]

I’m not home but I think I do

[gusty mist]

Won't matter without micrometer we're talking .1mm differences here

[harsh dove]

I have digital calipers

[gusty mist]

Huge

[tawdry tree]

Would be awesome to know if there is much of a difference between the two.

[gusty mist]

Also interested in size of TX housing once they arrive - and difference between clip-in and screw-in

[harsh dove]

Will do

Screw ins do appear thicker-wider from the pics you guys have posted but well see

[gusty mist]

They look the same as stock but no way I could detect .1mm diff

[harsh dove]

To provide evidence, I’ve had my jades since December 28th, 2023. Using stock stabs with no issues since

Or rather tx ap stabs not stock wooting stabs

And not long pole

[stray tiger]

Are your screw-in's long pole?

[median spade]

just a warning those l60 in raptor will be a bit tight

probably already knew that tho

[weak fable]

Yea I was feeling that. Definitely little to no stem wobble and as long as my keys come back up I’m happy haha

[median spade]

Yeah i used them like that for 3 weeks

It gets better the more you use them

[weak fable]

Did you switch to something else?

[median spade]

personally tied with jades for best way

Jades currently

[weak fable]

Was looking at the jades

Yea haha

Was typing that

Did it affect your stems at all with the jades?

[median spade]

you mean the raptors and l60?

[weak fable]

Not stems. I meant stabilizer

[median spade]

Oh no but I run gmk on mine

issue is keycaps more than the stabs really

and im rocking tx ap stabs (not long pole)

[weak fable]

Ohhh got it. Well if I don’t like these I’ll definitely give jades a try. Did you put the l60 stems into them or kept the jades stock?

[median spade]

Jades stock and won't really add anything to them

going to swap them to l60 springs eventually as too light for me but been lazy

[weak fable]

If you have the raptors use those springs. Nice middle ground between the yellows and greens

Total Frankenstein haha

L60 stem, raptor springs, and jade housing

Fire

[median spade]

Yeah raptor springs are good too, but l60 spring weight been my favorite so far

[weak fable]

This is my first time modding a keyboard though

[median spade]

Makes my custom boards for work feel "heavy" if i use anything else

[weak fable]

So I appreciate the advice

[median spade]

[tawdry tree]

No.

[jagged geode]

Hey guys I have an RK61 lubed Akko cs silver switches how do I make them sound deeper ? I’m thinking of doing this last mod before buying a wooting

[agile grove]

tmk you cant really make switches themselves deeper, just the mods you add to the board can change how deep it sounds

why do you want to mod other switches before getting a wooting anyways?

[heavy dune]

PE foam insert vs silicon insert vs nothing, which would sound cleaner and more clacky in tofu redux?

[stray tiger]

Clacky? Probably silicone all things being equal

[fluid ravine]

I agree

[heavy dune]

sorry, forgot to mention i am running the PC plate comes with the he60+ module

any reference on pc plate without anything between plate and pcb? that's how i built all my other boards.

[fluid ravine]

"The silicone pad gives a more muted experience of the sound profile by lowering more mid frequencies and creates shorter, snappier sounds."

[fluid ravine]

I'm running on no plate foam

Tirade as well

[heavy dune]

do you have a sound test?

[fluid ravine]

Mines deep or just thock ig

but yeah holdup

[fluid ravine]

#1173784544529363034 message

Sound test are above the thing

[heavy dune]

oh, you have a silicon plate insert there?

ah, i found more

[fluid ravine]

#1166204178759176283 message

heres this one

[fluid ravine]

theres like configs

i listed above the vids

[heavy dune]

tyty

[stable kindle]

sup fellow degens

[fluid ravine]

sup

[stable kindle]

prince of thocc !

Day #69 of wooting taking my money and holding my module hostage

[fluid ravine]

ayyy wsg

[stable kindle]

um

went to golfing for the first time in a while. played like shit, forgot a club that the korean group behind me stole. went to eat hotpot and burned my self on a quail egg badly enough to get blisters on the inside of my mouth. been shitting non-stop last night + today. but other than that and wooting still having my module its been pretty good i guess. wbu? LOL@fluid ravine

[thick mural]

tasty

[fluid ravine]

Was suffering from school

wrote 4 drafts for an essay

have to do a project for CS

mannnn

it sucks

finally got to play

[stray tiger]

computer science? counter strike?

[fluid ravine]

Computer science

[stray tiger]

boo

[fluid ravine]

guess what kind of project im doing

[stray tiger]

Keyboards

[fluid ravine]

YES

DIY KEYBOARDS

[stray tiger]

Yeah i talked to your mom

[fluid ravine]

AKA USING A FKING KIT YEAAAAAAAAA

[stable kindle]

good stuff, learning cs early on is a huge advantage

[fluid ravine]

ok pops- 👀

[stable kindle]

what a coincidence i talked to her the other day too

[fluid ravine]

i was literally assigned this an hour ago ;-;

[stable kindle]

how do schools deal with chatgpt these days?

[fluid ravine]

uhhh

dont know

no one got caught yet ig

[thick mural]

turnitin has a built in ai check

[stable kindle]

i feel like i had a problem with connecting ideas smoothly and grammar mistakes.

[stable kindle]

for example, what if it was an argumentative essay, and you told chatgpt to write the essay but you gave it your own view points

would the ai check catch that?

[thick mural]

yes

it's a language model

it has predefined grammar and syntax

it's very easy to pick up on

btw @stray tiger the tofu's black seems much richer than the fjell's

sounds pretty good too

finally have a full black keyboard

even the plate lol

[stable kindle]

syntax i can somewhat see, grammar i dunno. if see kids writing their rough drafts and asking chatgpt to correct it for grammar and syntax. dont see anything wrong with that.

guess thats different compared to asking chatgpt to generate an essay

[fluid ravine]

interesante

[thick mural]

the way to get around it is by telling chatgpt to summarise

then u interpret the info yourself

it's hard for chatgpt to cite sources sometimes

so you might have to do that yourself

[agile grove]

@fluid ravine after listening to your soundtest I think silicone switch pad sounds similar to no switch pad but with higher pops, foam switch pad sounds the most muted, and no switch pad sounds the thockiest.

[untold wigeon]

Sup mane sry for ping I’m the one that asked for tofu 60, the brass weight is worth it?

[sage mirage]

i mean most people say yes and if you dont like it you can always take it out

i mean i like my keyboard on the heavy side

[untold wigeon]

Maybe sound a dumb question lol is just I’m new in this, I mean this add more weight but since aluminum case is already heavy, is worth to add this?

[sage mirage]

i mean the brass will change some of the sound i think the with the brass sounds better

[untold wigeon]

Okey thanks!💪💪💪 Imma order it then

[sage mirage]

from what i havew seen i also have yet to order and build my redux but other i heard sound better with the plate

what switchs are you using

[untold wigeon]

L45

I’m coming from steelseries and they also weight 45 so I picked this and the 60He module

Just now I’m using it caseless

[sage mirage]

make sure to lube them

i have jades

[lofty plover]

I'm also getting jades for my wooting, did you run into any issues with the jades?

[untold wigeon]

Okey mane thanks!

[midnight hornet]

You need to grab the beta patch for the jades cuz of the shorter travel but they work completely fine on the wooting

[sage mirage]

no only that you may have to use o ring on the spacebar stab so the space bar don't lean to one side and pop off

cause the stab that come with the wooting are short and the jades don't go as far down as the lekkers

[lofty plover]

Okay thanks for the answer

i just ordered everything i'm super hyped

[sage mirage]

i feel that i have mine and might order another module for another build

[lofty plover]

cant wait to get all my parts

this will be my first custom keyboard ever

[harsh dove]

So many parts coming

And I don’t need any of them

Lmfao

All those parts are for testing, only the keycaps were bought for personal use lol

[uncut musk]

lmao

[fluid ravine]

gib

lel

What that from ebay'

[harsh dove]

Keycaps

They’re sold out everywhere else

Was $150 on eBay new in box

[static tendon]

Just now received my module

[stray tiger]

Don't look at this then https://cannonkeys.com/products/freya

That knob is sick

[harsh dove]

Bro I’ve been looking at this

I posted it last week I think

Here

I think ima get it

[stray tiger]

I need to make a decision at some point to go full HE only moving forward.

[harsh dove]

Ikr

[stray tiger]

Probably not today, but at some point.

[devout torrent]

this is what I decided and sold a few mx boards I had

[harsh dove]

Yeah forsure

[devout torrent]

gonna keep a few but only buy HE going forward

at least for nwo

now*

[stray tiger]

2024 is the year of HE

[devout torrent]

There's so much HE stuff popping up on what feels like a near daily basis

[static tendon]

Which stand offs should I include? Just the one near the space bar and keep the center off correct? For the Alumaze60

[harsh dove]

None imo

[stray tiger]

Will probably be 100+ boards available by year end but Wooting has and will be leading the pack. The stuff you guys are going to find out about over the next few weeks is ridiculous.

[harsh dove]

Should I save my money for wooting then?

[devout torrent]

I really like the way they did the gasket mount ont he 80HE and I'm sure the unrevealed info will make it a definite buy

I do prefer 65% though, but it seems worth it going bigger for the 80HE

[static tendon]

Did you end up assembling your module as well?

[harsh dove]

Yeah, I’m still gonna do a live stream tho if people wanna see me mod it and test out different stuff

I haven’t modded it at all

[stray tiger]

That's just the start. Wooting is playing chess while the rest are playing checkers.

[harsh dove]

It’s as stock as can be right now

Not even lubed

[stray tiger]

What's your socials

[harsh dove]

@harsh dove

[harsh dove]

Lmao

It’s @ cam off life on most things

One word tho

[devout torrent]

Definitely going to hold out for it

I really hope we see a 65% at some point as well, especially gasket mounted like teh 80HE

that would be perfection

[stray tiger]

Followed on twitch

[stray tiger]

I'm sure if there is a market for it, it'll happen eventually.

[fluid ravine]

HE finna be the new standard

😂

[devout torrent]

I saw some rumours that raesha is also working on a silent HE switch

very excited for those as well

even if they wont be wooting compatible for the time being

[mental salmon]

Twitch says your last stream was 3 years ago

[harsh dove]

Probably was

I’ve been leaning more towards YouTube content

To me streaming is something you do when you already have an audience that wants to watch you but not when first starting out

I used to help other streamers/tubers with their content and setups years ago but never done anything for myself

[mental salmon]

I see, will find your youtube channel then

[thick mural]

btw

for anyone planning on using tx ap clip ins

they're pretty wide on the housing

may take some pushing to get the plate over them

[harsh dove]

I have like ugly live streams of myself testing equipment on there lmao

[static tendon]

Geez these switches fit ridiculously tight. I thought I’d snap the switch pulling it out

Only 1 switch too. Hopefully I like the L45s and don’t have to switch out for the L60s

[harsh dove]

Youll like them unless you prefer a heavier switch

[static tendon]

I’d probably say I like lighter. Tested them out side by side

Geez this thing sounds good right out the box. Video doesn’t do justice

There’s a tick there but compared to most gaming keyboards that’s pretty impressive

[waxen bane]

Now Im curious how the lekkers sound irl

Because my first switches were gateron jades

[static tendon]

Anyone know which rows typically experience Cherry profile interference? I want to test it for myself before I put everything on

Maybe @stray tiger

[harsh dove]

Someone can correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think this issue exists anymore

[static tendon]

That is correct but I do want to test it to be certain for myself

[stray tiger]

Row 3 was the traditional row but should be good

[harsh dove]

Yeah I think it was a thing like 2 years ago

Then they changed switch design I believe

To account for it

[near loom]

anyone have any recomendations on how to mod the wooting screw in stabs or should i replace them? The space bar is good for the most part but has tick when i ever so slightly tap it. Also my right enter key has a lot of wobble

[static tendon]

Thanks for the confirmation. I don’t feel interference in any row

[stray tiger]

Test row 4 also

[weak fable]

Finally finished

[waxen bane]

Does anyone know what the wooting keycap profile is

[queen pier]

Did you end up installing your switches north or south facing?

[static tendon]

Checked the rows. Compared a north facing and south facing orientation. I don’t notice anything off

I’ll proceed with north facing throughout the entire keyboard

[thick mural]

this is what they can sound like too

[static tendon]

Dang I don’t doubt if I remove these switches I’ll break at least 10 of them in the process. They sit wayyyy too tight

I think it’s the PC plate. Not the switch

[thick mural]

they're easy to remove, just gotta wiggle instead of pull

[static tendon]

Not in my case. I’ve pulled a bunch of switches in my lifetime so far. These are some of the tightest fitting switches I’ve felt yet

[thick mural]

i have the same switches and plate, pretty easy to remove in my case

but they are definitely tighter

than the original l60s

[smoky lintel]

anyone elses new gat jade switches constantly spamming?

[thick mural]

#🪛│modding_faq

u need the beta firmware

[static tendon]

Perhaps yours is not as tight as the PC plate I’ve received. But they are certainly a challenge to pop off. I have a Ramaworks switch puller as well

[stray tiger]

Remove the PCB from the plate and it'll be way easier

[thick mural]

i have 3 pc plates including a black, they're only hard to remove if i pull straight up

[smoky lintel]

w save thankyou🙏

[fluid ravine]

i like thatg

[smoky lintel]

i just saw a stable update for 4.6.12

[thick mural]

i like clacky main keys and thocky spacebars

funnily enough, only took 1 try to get it perfect

[fluid ravine]

whatchu do

[thick mural]

stab foam, tx ap clip ins and some lube

[static tendon]

If I did that, how would I re-install the PCB once the switches are installed to the plate? Perhaps I’m misunderstanding?

[fluid ravine]

ic

[thick mural]

remove the module, remove the plate, remove switch, reassemble

[fluid ravine]

i have the plate mount ver
Light lube of krytox on housing and stem and also light amount of grease on wire

[stray tiger]

Remove the PCB from the plate, take out the switches, reassemble PCB and plate and install new switches

[thick mural]

it's the longer but easier way

[near dagger]

Anyone know how to the the black and white strap for the wooting

?

[static tendon]

Gotcha. I’m about 80% done so I might not turn back now. But I’ll keep that in mind moving forward

[thick mural]

buy an alumaze

[harsh dove]

Pretty sure it’s OEM

[thick mural]

i like that wooting kept plate mount compatibility

[near dagger]

They don’t sell separately ?

[thick mural]

some plate mount stabs are pretty good

[thick mural]

not as of yet

[harsh dove]

Remove PCB when removing switches from plate

Makes life easier

10x

Sorry I’m late

Realizing people already said this

[fluid ravine]

mines sound pretty good
dunno what else i could do with it to sound different but ya

[thick mural]

im happy with mine atm, might change switches tho

raptor hes are amazing rn

[fluid ravine]

Mid game rn lol

[harsh dove]

One of my friends said my keeb sounds like dominoes falling

[static tendon]

Alright got them on

[harsh dove]

(Stock module x Salvation x No Mods at all)

[thick mural]

very nice

[harsh dove]

Beginning Game

[harsh dove]

No mods at all , no foam, nothing

Bare bones module

[fluid ravine]

@median spade

[harsh dove]

He’s seen

I’m pretty sure

[fluid ravine]

o

clack clack

i like

[harsh dove]

Yeah lol

True Jade sound

[fluid ravine]

fr

id like this

[harsh dove]

Tiny bit of ping

[fluid ravine]

o

[harsh dove]

Can hear the metallic resonance in the case

[queen pier]

Is there any noticable difference between using the thin case foam that comes with the alumaze and the thicker foam that comes with the he module?

[harsh dove]

I’ve been kinda liking it too

Gonna mod this weekend tho

[fluid ravine]

they're both the same
its just each one fits the their own case

[static tendon]

Fully assembled with module

[harsh dove]

Nice

[cinder merlin]

planning to get this too lol

Been wanting to achieve that lil shoosh creamy keyboard feel

Tho he uses a mammoth 75

[marsh olive]

Got this in my module, does this mean I can’t have my switches southfacing? Because I want zero interference with my cherry keycaps

[harsh dove]

No, it doesn’t matter

Only affects RGB because wooting PCB has north facing LEDs

[marsh olive]

Gotcha

[static tendon]

Type test

[marsh olive]

Yeah I care more about keycap interference than RGB

[harsh dove]

Yeah, nothing to worry about

Won’t have any interference

[static tendon]

Yeah I just now set it up. No interference with Cherry profile

[ionic heath]

I plan to get jades for my 60he and Ive read about the spacebar popping off and the easy fix being to put an o ring on the stabilizer stems. Does that make a noticeable difference to the feel or sound? Im new to the whole modding scene.

[marsh olive]

South facing ? Because north does have interference when you slide a piece of paper in between them

[harsh dove]

The spacebar popping off is an uncommon issue

I would just get normal stabs with your jades and see if you have any problems

You most likely won’t

[static tendon]

Yes I tested south facing vs north. North facing doesn’t have any compatibility issues with these lekkars. You’re fine to use all north facing with Cherry profile

100%

[marsh olive]

Get a strong o ring and not a mushy one

[marsh olive]

I got ks-20s

[static tendon]

Gotcha, I’m unsure with those switches. I am using L45 Lekkars

[marsh olive]

I’ll keep it on south facing, just making sure that there weren’t any performance differences

[fluid ravine]

oh fk that sound alot better than i thought

[ionic heath]

You mean the stock ones? Im modding the original keyboard, didnt buy just the module.

[static tendon]

Sounds good. No complaints from me

[harsh dove]

Yeah stock stabs are fine

[ionic heath]

K cool! Also, the jades arent rattly like the lekkers right? I was going to film and lube the lekkers but it seems like its better to invest in better switches to do that with. Is it even necessary to film the jades?

[harsh dove]

I don’t recommend filming jades, no

And they are not rattly

[static tendon]

So I’m not sure how I feel about the Alumaze60. The concrete gray looks like a dirty white and the weight is noticeably light. I do like the typing angle though. Wondering if I would have enjoyed the redux more 🤔

[harsh dove]

Alumaze doesn’t have a weight

[static tendon]

I mean it’s overall weight

[harsh dove]

I assume you’re referring to the brass insert?

[tawdry tree]

Nor is it heavy.

[harsh dove]

Oh ok

Yeah Alumaze is fairly light compared to other cases

[static tendon]

It’s little brass insert is insanely light 😂 feels hallow actually

[harsh dove]

Cause it is, kind of

Look at the bottom

[static tendon]

Yeah that makes sense. I do love the strap though. I’ll give it 1-2 days and consider returning it

If I like it within that time frame I’ll keep it

Tofu might be a better option after all.

[tawdry tree]

It is significantly heavier.

[static tendon]

Happy to be able to test it in front of me

Yeah it is. The typing angle steered me away

[harsh dove]

I also think they kept it lightweight intentionally

[static tendon]

I like the low typing angle of the Alumaze

But I don’t like this dirty white and light weight. Feels like a gaming keyboard rather than some custom board

[ionic heath]

Okay! Thanks

[tawdry tree]

I feel like light weight with metals cause it to ping more.

[static tendon]

The strap is unique though 🤔

[tawdry tree]

It is.

[static tendon]

Yeah perhaps. I’m sure it keeps costs down as well

[harsh dove]

Possibly, but I think they kept it lightweight for people who travel with their boards

Idk

[static tendon]

Love the way the module feels. No complaint there. Far better than my past ducky mecha mini

Feels soft, has this thump sound, solid

[waxen bane]

Thoughts on Cherry mx vs OEM?

[tawdry tree]

You can use the Mecha’s case as well if you want.

[slender nymph]

\\

[harsh dove]

Basically the same, Cherry is slightly slimmer

[tawdry tree]

But it’s not much heavier than the alumaze.

[static tendon]

Still getting used to typing on it though

[tawdry tree]

I think.

[static tendon]

I’ve had my ducky like 4-5 years

[static tendon]

Yeah I’m aware. Just wanted something new with a white color to match more keycaps

[static tendon]

It does, 100%

[tawdry tree]

Ah I see.

[static tendon]

I really like how light the L45s are

[harsh dove]

I want a white case too tbh

[static tendon]

Yeah if I ever go for the salvation down the line, I’ll pick it up in white

[harsh dove]

lol that’s the white case I was looking at

Cause idk what else idk want

[static tendon]

I think the salvation is end game for the wooting

I don’t even know what else can top it off

Some people mention Fjell case but I don’t like how it looks

[harsh dove]

It’s just hard for me to justify Fjell cause it’s basic tray mount

And doesn’t come with anything else

Salvation is a full kit

[static tendon]

Yeah that too. Leaf springs are very unique

[ionic heath]

I was also considering switch pads but some people were saying that interferes with the HE sensors. Is that also an uncommon issue? I just don’t know how stuff will interact with a switch thats not the same size as the stock switches.

[past parcel]

Hi! I just bought a 60he, would you guys recommend me lubing the switches?

[static tendon]

This is my opinion, but I definitely don’t think it’s worth lubing them. They feel great right out the box

Lubing switches takes ages and personally didn’t enjoy it

[tawdry tree]

It most likely won’t interfere as the keyboard recalibrates itself.

I don’t remember anyone here who had issues with switch pads.

[past parcel]

yeah, its really time consuming, but so it only affects the sound and not perfomance?

[static tendon]

It is only the sound. Nothing to do with performance correct

[past parcel]

Alright ty

[ionic heath]

Thanks! Yeah i read through the server and a couple people were advising against it but Im not sure if they ever bothered to even try it.

[past parcel]

But does the key caps affect sound alot too? I've heard that the abs key caps sound bad?

[median spade]

Gib with shure now too

My salvation will be here Sunday

[harsh dove]

Yeah I’ll work on setting that up when I get home

[median spade]

[tawdry tree]

Most foam switch pads are quite thin and there’s a little room still between the switch and the PCB normally so I think it’ll be fine.

[median spade]

Fjell has been in the box lol

Sadly was not impressed

[harsh dove]

Told you

[static tendon]

Yes the caps certainly impact the sound signature. Depends what quality ABS but yeah that can also make the sound change a bit

[harsh dove]

I like the Fjell too but it’s hard to justify for it

[static tendon]

For example GMK keycaps are ABS but they are high quality feeling keycaps. Expensive but nice @past parcel

[median spade]

It’s fine with a standard Mx build as I have those lying around but it really bad with the 60he for some reason

[harsh dove]

Yeah I feel like it’s not doing anything for the wooting

[median spade]

At all

[static tendon]

What color did you pick up?

[median spade]

Black

Got it for $140 too bless aftermarket

[harsh dove]

Nice

[past parcel]

I already own some tai hao pbt double shot: https://www.maxgaming.dk/dk/keycaps/pbt-double-shot-keycaps-nordisk-layout-sunshine?utm_term=&utm_campaign=&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&campaign_id=17121483809&adgroup_id=137841082682&ad_id=595850825888&utm_term=&utm_campaign=&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&campaign_id=17121483809&adgroup_id=137841082682&ad_id=595850825888&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIs9uz2OuNhAMVNZKDBx36lAC7EAQYAyABEgJMc_D_BwE

arent they good? @static tendon

[static tendon]

I havent tested this exact set but I’ve had good experiences with Tai Hao. These look good. I don’t see what profile they are though, and they appear to be ISO layout just to keep in mind

If ISO is what you’re going for, perfect. But confirming the profile is important as well

[past parcel]

Im from denamrk so i thinkh iso is the correct layout

rn i have the keycaps in a keychron k2

[median spade]

OEM

They’re a bit thin for PBT too so might be a little higher pitch then you’re expecting

[static tendon]

If you’re set on these, that’s great. But you can also consider DCX profile keycaps from drop. (They’re very similar to Cherry profile but are a lot cheaper)

[static tendon]

Gotcha. OEM is fine, again it’s all preference. I personally have been aiming for cherry recently

[past parcel]

im not really sure what the speecific layout are called or what difference there is but thanks for the inputs, i really appreciate

it

[past parcel]

im pretty sure they are SA profile, from looking at the internet

[static tendon]

May reply a bit slow here. Handling some stuff on the side. Will reply once able

[light hawk]

just finished my build 🤩

• wooting module 60he+ w/ PC plate
• tofu60 redux white
• gateron magnetic jade switches
• tx ap stabilizers
• gmk modo 2 keycaps

mods include: tape mod, gummy o-ring mount, stabs/switch pads

[harsh dove]

Which stabs

Screw in or clip in or plate mount?

[tawdry tree]

Yes.

[waxen bane]

Anyone have any good Cherry MX keycap recommendations? Just want best quality for price idc about looks, can be ABS too

[stray tiger]

https://matrixzj.github.io/docs/gmk-keycaps

[waxen bane]

ty

[harsh dove]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

Also this

[weak fable]

South facing. Idc about the rgb with this keycap set

[stray tiger]

@harsh dove https://www.twitch.tv/alexotos Freya build

[harsh dove]

Oof rn ?!

Boutta leave work in 20 mins

I’ll check rn

[light hawk]

long pole clip-ins. screw-ins wont work with o-ring mount

[stray tiger]

You got time. Alex going to spend while building it

[harsh dove]

Correct, just wanted to see which stabs you got for plate compatibility

[tawdry tree]

No issues?

[harsh dove]

Been having some people with issues with the screw ins

[tawdry tree]

Clip ins too

[harsh dove]

Oh did one of the guys have clip ins that we talked too?

[tawdry tree]

Yes

[harsh dove]

Okay ty

[tawdry tree]

Three screw ins, one clip ins and one plate mounts.

[harsh dove]

Gotcha

[stray tiger]

like $50 in packaging lol

[harsh dove]

Bro

Literally

I love good packaging tho

[light hawk]

nope, I ordered an A55 red o-ring from aliexpress for 2$. its literally the same one that graveshift sells. 185mm OD, 3.5mm

@tawdry tree ^

[loud haven]

why is everyone talking about o rings lately

[tawdry tree]

I mean with the stabilizers fitting in the switch plate.

[harsh dove]

You used orings on your stabs?

[tawdry tree]

Some others and mine didn’t fit that’s why I’m asking

[light hawk]

no talking about the gummy o-ring mount

[harsh dove]

Okay

So no issues with your clip ins then?

[spice bronze]

🫠

[light hawk]

you need to have clip-in stabilizers, was that the issue?

[harsh dove]

For gummy mount. Yes

For what I’m talkin about, no

[light hawk]

no clip-ins work great, super solid.

[harsh dove]

Awesome

Good to hear

[tawdry tree]

No, mine physically didn’t fit in the hole of the switch plate. You didn’t have an issue like that?

[tawdry tree]

Interesting.

[light hawk]

however one thing to note, don't use any full stabilizer pads, i had to cut mine off partially because with clip ins they need to sit flush on the PCB. even 0.5mm difference made it almost impossible to insert those small plastic retainers on the backside

would probably not make any difference anyways, but I had them laying around so I might awell used it

[tawdry tree]

Yeah and you don’t really need stab pads with APs from my exp

[light hawk]

yeah can totally see that. but again, I just had them already

I had a QK65 with oil king switches before, I must say that build had more of that marble sound, however the stabs def sound better in the wooting. kinda like both, actually surprised how well the 60HE turned out from a sound perspective.

[median spade]

South facing

[tawdry tree]

Haha, HE boards can sound as well as non HE boards!

[old swallow]

gateron magnetic jades appear

[empty sentinel]

silicone or black foam inlay ? And which sound do each make

[thick mural]

you have to force them through

my tx ap clip ins were the same

they work fine once in tho, top of the housing is slightly too large

[mental salmon]

Did you get the 60HE with already installed l60s or the module with switches in a jar?

[light hawk]

I used foam, I think it gives a lower pitched sound compared to silicone. BadSeed Tech made a comparison. see his latest video about wooting 60he module from 2 months ago

[empty sentinel]

Thank you, new to this

[static tendon]

Anyone know why I cannot connect to module to Wootility?

[static tendon]

Looks like someone replied saying they are OEM profile so they will sit higher than a cherry profile keycap

[harsh dove]

Phew

Finally headed home

[static tendon]

Just quickly looking at it, these don't look like they're SA profile

[tawdry tree]

Your plate looked like this when you forced them through? With the switch plate “pins” bent outwards?

[thick mural]

yep

doesnt affect anything tho

[tawdry tree]

It isn’t normal and you’re lucky that yours work.

[thick mural]

its perfectly fine

[tawdry tree]

For some it puts so much stress on the stabilizers housings that it caves inward causing the stab to not function properly/smoothly.

[thick mural]

with thin housings yeah

[tawdry tree]

TX AP stabs too

This issue is only with TX’s so far.

[empty sentinel]

This normal

Just opened it anddddd…

This is my box lol

[harsh dove]

No

Your courier sucks

[upper tusk]

Does anyone know a good top housing that would fit the lekker switches

[empty sentinel]

Module and case box look fine but this lol

[harsh dove]

I’m happy to see another brotha keyboard modding tho

[harsh dove]

Yeah that’s odd lol

[static tendon]

Anyone have any preferences on fortnite settings? I have 0.4mm Rapid Trigger on with 0.4mm actuation

[empty sentinel]

Imma overlook it lol. Waited way to long to be mad over a box 🤣

[harsh dove]

As long as your switches are fine

[stray tiger]

Usually this is caused by another USB utility like the Razor or Logitech software.

[sour blade]

yk this is entirely possible right

just-

[harsh dove]

Ah, good ol Microsoft paint explanations

[sour blade]

take anything

push against the stabs in different directions

with the entire thing set up

when it loosens up when you push in certain direction

you will know what your problem is

any tool will work

[harsh dove]

@stray tiger finger print magnet

[sour blade]

dam didnt know that mb

[upper tusk]

Did anyone try to change the lekker switches top housing?

[sour blade]

i know now

thx

[upper tusk]

Damn really no one tried 😢

[harsh dove]

I tried

Can’t remember with what switch

Think it was raptors

But didn’t work from what I remember

[static tendon]

It was a silly mistake from my end, I didn't realize you can click the message and alllow the browser permission. Once I did that, I got it working 🙂

[upper tusk]

Yeah same problem i tried with multiple ones the stim is too big

[harsh dove]

For me it just wouldn’t clip back down

Fully

[upper tusk]

Did the stim fit?

[harsh dove]

Yeah lekker stems fit in raptor housing

Albeit kind of tight

Too tight for me personally

[upper tusk]

Damn i tried with milky yellows and ink blacks and some other switches i cant seem to make the stems fit

[harsh dove]

Those housing probably don’t have the curved sides

I’m guessing

@upper tusk

Mx switch housings don’t have that curve around the stem

[proven tendon]

that is nice. i already got raptors but i dont know if i completely like them

[harsh dove]

Hence why they wouldn’t fit

[harsh dove]

Are you going for a clacky sound?

[upper tusk]

Yeah

[proven tendon]

yeah basically

the bottom out sound isnt completely satisfying if you know what i mean

[harsh dove]

Raptors are good then but you might like the Jades or wait for more switches to come out

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[proven tendon]

yeah thats what i was thinking about

theres not enough innovation in he switches yet

[harsh dove]

Nah, jades are the first biggest change I’ve seen so far

Most of the other HE switches are the same

Some have reversed polarity

Got some dual rails coming out

[proven tendon]

my wallet..

[harsh dove]

Trust me

We know

[proven tendon]

😭

[lofty plover]

reading this makes me rethink my jades purchase

[harsh dove]

Why

[lofty plover]

because then i'll be tempted to spend even more on new switches

[harsh dove]

Oh

Thoughts on the Freya so far? @stray tiger

[tawdry tree]

All g

[upper tusk]

This should be working since it has the same curve but the stem still doesn’t fit

[harsh dove]

Curve tolerance probably isn't enough

and based on photo, it doesn't look like it is

[upper tusk]

It has same curving but the stem seems to be stuck on the white bit thats sticking out on top right and bottom right

Is there a way to tell if it will fit or not

[harsh dove]

Ah yeah I see the little notches

[harsh dove]

Besides just trying to fit a stem in the top housing, no not really

[upper tusk]

Sadge

[stable anvil]

Just got these KeyTok Ctrl keycaps to pair with the Alumaze lavender. I think they're gonna look nice together!

[upper tusk]

I always forget to ask this question but is there a way to open switches without bleeding

😂😂😂

[tawdry tree]

A switch opener?

[upper tusk]

I am using one

[tawdry tree]

🤨🤨🤨

[upper tusk]

I just seem to always bleed when opening alot of them

[tawdry tree]

How?

You could get a switch opener with handles

[upper tusk]

Since i dont think its a good idea to let krytox into an open wound i would wait or put a plaster

[upper tusk]

Wdym

[upper tusk]

.

[tawdry tree]

Idk the name in english, wrench switch opener maybe?

Gateron’s one for example

[upper tusk]

Ohh damnnn

I will try them

[harsh dove]

$35

[tawdry tree]

Prob cheaper ones too

[upper tusk]

Prob there is one in aliepress that is cheap

[harsh dove]

Yeah there is, but I use the Gateron one's as well

[static tendon]

@harsh dove what rapid trigger settings do you use?

[tawdry tree]

I don’t like it, it’s a hassle compared to a smaller switch opener.

[harsh dove]

It's like a nutcracker to me

[static tendon]

I feel like I'd squeeze too hard with that switch puller and the entire switch would crack

[tawdry tree]

A switch cracker, yes! That’s its new name from now on.

It sounds like it too 😂😂

[tawdry tree]

You can’t really squeeze too hard with it as it only goes until a switch is open.

[harsh dove]

Literally lol

yeah you can't really break a switch with it

Least I never have

[static tendon]

I'm assuming this isn't the browser version of the Wootility correct?

[harsh dove]

No

[static tendon]

Oh I see, it looks like yuou have Rapid trigger enabled only on the WASD keys correct?

[harsh dove]

I have it on all keys when gaming

Some people take it off their shift and spacebar tho