🔧│keyboard_modding

[tame vessel]

I might give nothing a go later on just out of curiousity

Thanks for the input folks 😄

[fluid ravine]

yep

[uncut musk]

https://www.permatex.com/products/lubricants/speciality-lubricants/permatex-dielectric-tune-up-grease-3-oz/ this the good good shit for stabs right

[fluid ravine]

yes

now that you mention it

[uncut musk]

the eu guys who have gotten their module are prob asleep rn huh

[fluid ravine]

hmm i might grease my stabs later

[fluid ravine]

yea prob

mine stabs rattle
but the rattle sounds good

[uncut musk]

wanna ask how the lube job is on the screw ins, I know badseed said it was pretty good but

[fluid ravine]

they dont sound like bad raattle

\

https://tenor.com/view/mile-morales-no-way-wtf-impossible-baffled-gif-6958367924105399718

no rattle on both shifts

no grease?

[uncut musk]

spacebar and my del key are the only 2 without rattle 😭 , the other ones are fucked

my

once i get my module ill prob just assemble it first without fixing the stem wobble on the switches and see how im feelin abt it before putting in all that time

[silver pecan]

1.6 pre sure

yo i just installed the tx ap stabs

[quiet bay]

good?

[silver pecan]

for some reason my backspace is like hard to click

[quiet bay]

a

[silver pecan]

everything else is good

[quiet bay]

wdym

[silver pecan]

but idk i tried changing it with different stabs and a switch

its just really hard to click

[quiet bay]

can u demonstrate it?

[silver pecan]

sorry for bg noise

[scarlet blaze]

Ugh... Silicon sounds so much better....
I really appreciate the snap to calibrate my ears to.

[quiet bay]

Does it feel snappy or something 🤔

[silver pecan]

no

feels like shit

prolly just gonna change that stab with the durock

[quiet bay]

mushy?

[quiet bay]

I mean if that fixes the issue might as well

[static tendon]

Hey @stray tiger figured you'd be a good person to ask. While this may be a bit of a stretch, do these GMK striker set look authentic? Anything I can ask to verify them being an authentic set? https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/847437153463964/?referralSurface=messenger_lightspeed_banner&referralCode=messenger_banner

[hearty sierra]

does anyone have a good foam suggestion to put under the pcb in a tofu redux

[loud zephyr]

something like this but need to cut to size

https://www.amazon.com/HONKID-Keyboard-Foam-Mechanical-4mm/dp/B0BLTZWXZZ?th=1

[lethal dove]

first person to mention it haha 😄 when designing the case I was thinking about the pcb traces and the case standoffs distance to each other that I completly forgot to account for switch position xD good thing I did 3D-print prototypes

[glad geyser]

no im not, same thing happens with no foam.

[untold wigeon]

its nothing to do with the plate unless yours is damaged some how

there are tons of people using the fr4 plate

[hearty sierra]

would this be good for a deeper, thockier sound if thats a thing?

[glad geyser]

im convinced that none of them are using rapid trigger at 0.15 then beacuse if they were they would have the same problem as me

ive been trying this for months. its the plate

[untold wigeon]

the issue is your stabs seizing

...?

the plate isnt affecting your RT

[glad geyser]

do u own an fr4 plate?

[untold wigeon]

FR4 plate is fine i have one and others in here also have fr4 plates

[glad geyser]

weird

OG steel plate causes 0 issues

same case, same foam

what case do you use?

tofu 60 redux?

[shell geode]

@fluid ravine F is Lekker, G is Jade, and H is Jade with Lekker stem. To me, it sounds a touch deeper.

[glad geyser]

j is paid by kbdfans

[loud zephyr]

I'm not really sure what the combination is for a thockier sound, I don't really chase a particular sound profile. @fluid ravine is the lad to ask

[hearty sierra]

no worries ty

[loud zephyr]

Here's the list of his mods and sound test #1186418994509529198 message

[tawdry tree]

Make sure the stab stems are all the way up in the keycap, press down on the keycap above the stabs!

Oh

Suggesting durocks should be a criminal offense honestly

[tawdry tree]

🤣😂🤣

[tawdry tree]

Is the fr4 plate wavy if it’s not installed as well?

[glad geyser]

no looking it at it on my desk its not warped at all. once u screw it in however it bends at every mounting point

im not the first person to have stabilizer issues with this plate but for some reason people are in denial about it.

[tawdry tree]

Does it happen w/o the foam or pad in between?

[glad geyser]

happens with and without

tried every combination of switch foam and switch film

[tawdry tree]

Maybe the standoffs are too short?

[glad geyser]

same problems with the stock ones as well as durock ones

[tawdry tree]

So when you screw it down it over tightens maybe?

[silver pecan]

my backspace still trippin btw

like feels mushy

with tx ap

[tawdry tree]

Overlubed?

[silver pecan]

nah

changed stabs

changed switch

cant be

cause the other stabs dont feel like that

[glad geyser]

@tawdry tree if i unscrew the screw by the spacebar quite a bit then it doesnt warp and the stab works fine. this does however create inconsistent travel distance and makes the rapid trigger very wonky

[gleaming crane]

Can anyone link me some good long pole stabs?

[untold wigeon]

tx ap

[glad geyser]

@tawdry tree these are the stabs i used

https://www.amazon.com/DUROCK-Stabilizers-Gold-Plated-Mechanical-Keyboards/dp/B0B2J41CVT

[silver pecan]

do u have jades?

@glad geyser

[bronze grove]

Ermagerd. I'm getting doxxed

[glad geyser]

l45s

[tawdry tree]

Okay, does the fr4 plate get stuck on the stabs? I mean like is the stab hole too small or something?

[glad geyser]

no the stabs fit great, but i think when i tigthen down that screw its bending the plate and causing friction with the stab wire

[tawdry tree]

Are those in plate mount as well? If not you should mention it for old 60HEs

[untold wigeon]

they make screw and plate

[gleaming crane]

Thx👍

[glad geyser]

sorry king 🙏 stabs work great

[bronze grove]

[glad geyser]

@tawdry tree ive been trying every combination of things for weeks/months and I gave up and ordered the first part PC plate

never got the rapid trigger to be consistent under 0.4mm

im using the stock steel one while i wait for it to arrive

[tawdry tree]

It’s hard to see on the picture but the bend in the plate looks like to be caused because it gets stuck on the stabs.

Which is not the case with the steel plate

[glad geyser]

I heard power cycling and restoring the board will recalibrate it and that worked temporarily but then the next day i run into the same issue again; rapid trigger disabling my switch when i wiggle a key

what do u mean stuck on the stabs?

[tawdry tree]

The bends happen directly above the stabs

Again, it’s hard to see but it looks to me like they’re getting stuck on the stabs.

[glad geyser]

i guess it looks that way but theres a standoff to the right of the spacebar right by the stab and more on the far left and right side of the plate

thats where the pressure is between the screw plate and standoff

the standoffs are all where the plate bows inwards

[tawdry tree]

You sure? Because then I’d think the stand offs are too short.. 🧐

[glad geyser]

its what came with the kbdfans kit

i was thinking longer screws would maybe help but those are the screws it came with

ive tried the stock ones and the ones that came in the plate kit and theyre both the same length it seems

[tawdry tree]

Two people I know use fr4 without an issue.

[glad geyser]

do they use rapid trigger at 0.15?

[tawdry tree]

If the plate stand off length look the same something is holding the plate up, has to be. It looks like the stabs.

[glad geyser]

because at 0.4 theres no problems

[tawdry tree]

Not sure, but their plate is not warped one would notice that instantly.

The problem was with stock stabs as well right?

[glad geyser]

any ideas on how to take a crack at it ?

yeah stock and durock

i broke a piece of the stock one trying to take the space bar off lol

[tawdry tree]

The plate shouldn’t warp, obviously. So I’d check what the cause is, too short stand offs you could solve with a tiny o ring if the screw length allows it. Thing is you don’t want the plate distance to be higher than normal as that messes with your actuation and rapid trigger.

[glad geyser]

i dont think the screws are long enough for that to work. i have some o rings as I was gonna try to burger mount it but ended up getting a big gummy o ring instead

i could pick up some 5 or 6mm screws and try

[tawdry tree]

Are the stock screws longer, if so you could try those.

[glad geyser]

theyre the same length i believe

they look the same and they both cause the plate to warp identically

ive tried both sets

[tawdry tree]

If you screw in the fr4 plate without anything in it, does it warp still?

Without switches, stabs or foam.

[glad geyser]

havnt tried that actually

[tawdry tree]

I’d take the foam out. If it remains, take the stabs out, if it remains take the switches out.

[glad geyser]

if it was somehow the stabs what would the solution be ?

[tawdry tree]

Well, not sure yet 😉

Could you take the foam out and take a picture of the stabs?

See if they’re touching the pcba or not.

[glad geyser]

ill do it tomorrow and @ you

[tawdry tree]

All good!

[glad geyser]

thanks

[tawdry tree]

Anytime

[glad geyser]

i was using it without the foam for a bit and it was still an issue

havnt tried removing the stabs and switches and checking for bowing

[tawdry tree]

I’d presume it’s either the stabs that are stuck between the plate and pcba holding the plate up too high.

Or the stand offs are too short.

Don’t really think it could be anything else tbh.

[glad geyser]

im almost certain its the standoffs but we will see tomorrow

[tawdry tree]

Could be.

[glad geyser]

not sure why KBD fans would ship this with standoffs that are too short, especially after advertising that it works with a wooting 60he

tofu 60 redux btw

[tawdry tree]

The two I know that have fr4 didn’t have a warping one

so either kbd gave you the wrong sized stand offs

or it’s something else

[glad geyser]

i feel like thats it or maybe they meant to send me longer screws

ill take all this apart tomorrow

i really like the sound and feel of the Fr4 espically after switching back to the steel plate lol. i want it to work

[tawdry tree]

Yeah of course.

[fierce void]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/912579872549916712/1196728036519841853/IMG_5057.mov?ex=65b8aed6&is=65a639d6&hm=1b93634bfc3b09356f0da60d815fa28b298de387e5ecc777833bfa49b5aaf8db&

stock stabs no case foam stock jades PC plate poron plate foam

[marble shuttle]

Salvation ?

[fierce void]

it is

It sounds better in person and also feels pretty damn good too

flexy

[remote cove]

Yo guys i had a weird question, does anyone have experience with both ansi and iso layout? My question is if i went with the iso layout (since im european) will the big enter key sound worse than the small enter key u get with ansi layout?

Or is there no big difference sound-wise?

[lunar dagger]

I have a few of both, cant say I noticed a difference

[remote cove]

Amazing, thanks

@lunar dagger its just annoying how only a few keycaps shops support the iso layout

[fierce void]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09FDZPVTW?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1

Do these actually work for the wooting

[bronze grove]

Can't share a shopping cart like that.

[fierce void]

I fixed it

[remote cove]

@fierce void i there a reason u didnt use case foam? Cuz im about to build my keyboard in like 10 days and wanted to know if it sounds better without the case foam or what

Because yours sounds good

[bronze grove]

It takes less than thirty seconds to compare for yourself just sayin'

[fierce void]

For me it was more comfortable without

[remote cove]

Interesting, what do you mean by more comfortable? Like a better typing experience?

[raven cave]

Here's an example of a Wooting 60HE put into an HMKB case. It required a special FR4 plate, as the case is top mount, as well as drilling some holes for the standoffs between the plate and PCB, but the end result was worth it.

There is the tiniest bit of flex and bounce now, which makes for a much more pleasant typing experience, and the ergonomics are almost on par with the stock plastic case, as the HMKB has a pretty low front height and a 6° typing angle.

The keycaps are XMI Swedish base with APL sublegends in gradient, from Erland's last groupbuy round. I can highly recommend them.

[fierce void]

what is this plate can you share it with me in DMs

[fierce void]

more bouncy

[raven cave]

I could, but I'll just write it here. 😄

It's available for purchase from the HMKB site (heavymetalkeyboards.com) itself. But the maker didn't realise that HE switches don't have contact pins, so he didn't make holes for the standoffs – he figured that there were hotswap sockets for the switches to latch into to hold the plate and PCB together. Hopefully he will correct it for future buyers.

[untold wigeon]

gatekeeping keyboard pates is insane

Plates

[crimson sky]

not really gatekept

the plate file is public

it just isn't optimized for HE boards

[untold wigeon]

I dont think you understand what I was saying

Bam asked him to DM it was like Bam didn't want anyone else to know

It was a joke lol

[crimson sky]

a

reminds me

someone asked me to make a plate for this case

https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005005094285669.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2vnm

but wasn't long ago enough so that they could have tested it by now

[devout torrent]

Yeah I have yet to get the plate or case

[hearty sierra]

how many he switches are gonna be coming out this year

[crimson sky]

5

(probably more idk)

[devout torrent]

this year will probably have tons of he boards and switches

[obsidian dagger]

🔮

[hearty sierra]

😭

silly question by me lmao

[slim drift]

What are the mods on that wow

[halcyon obsidian]

this is CAM's but I think its in the salvation case, alumaze case foam, and maybe tempest tape mod

[slim drift]

Very fancy

[devout torrent]

man the hibi hero is also a very tempting case but the front height is so tall at 23mm

[untold wigeon]

id say a minimum of 8

probably way more

i wouldnt be surprised if it ended up being 15-20

[hearty sierra]

good to know theres a few coming

im gonna wait and see what comes out to get some

[untold wigeon]

akkos he switch is going to be good

[hearty sierra]

when does that release?

[untold wigeon]

no idea

they already have one but you have to buy a $300 keyboard

[hearty sierra]

damn

[mental salmon]

Hey, did they give an update regarding the black PC plate? I also received a white one. And I do not think I have seen a picture of the Wooting Black PC plate just yet

[kind yew]

BROS

best HE switch = gateron jade? or which one

[harsh dove]

Wait you ordered a black one and got a white one as well?

[mental salmon]

Yes

[harsh dove]

Damn

Nah they haven’t gotten back to me yet

[mental salmon]

Just contacted them through the hub, lets see how that goes…

[harsh dove]

Yeah I sent my email on the 9th

[mental salmon]

At least I will receive my Alumaze this week, do not expect to receive the wrong color

[old swallow]

atleast you wont get a white alumaze 😉

[potent rover]

does anyone have the plate files for the frog mini to be compatible with the wooting

[devout torrent]

I’ll be at my PC in 1 hour and can send then if someone doesn’t

I have it downloaded somewhere

[potent rover]

alright thanks

[devout torrent]

Found link

#996573707235491950 message

[spice steeple]

My keyboard arrived today.. wasted no time

[quiet bay]

very hawt keyboard

[mental salmon]

Are FN, Control in the bottom right corner wrong or did you personalized them in wootility?

[tawdry tree]

Personalized probably, I prefer that too.

[mental salmon]

Also what keycaps are you using? color look similar to mine

[tawdry tree]

Fn next to space, then Menu, Alt and Control. But I have the last three bound as dedicated arrow keys.

[halcyon obsidian]

gmk blue samurai

[spice steeple]

https://drop.com/buy/drop-redsuns-gmk-blue-samurai-custom-keycap-set?defaultSelectionIds=980141

[mental salmon]

Thanks, no comparison, mine are just a budget set, I was asking about DCX feedback the other day, but does not seem to have so much use here 🙂

[halcyon sparrow]

Hey guys I had a question regarding HE switches. I saw a post regarding a comparison between lekker 45s, and raptors. I noticed they mentioned that the 45s had a smaller actuation distance, but the raptors had a more consistent actuation because of its magnet.
Could anyone who knows about switches well enough tell me if there's a possibility of getting the actuation distance of the 45s but the consistency of the raptors though combining the twos components? Or is the component required to get one benefit the same as the one required for the other.

[devout torrent]

Just stem swap them

Lekker stem in raptor housing

[agile grove]

iirc the raptors are more sensitive than L45s. if you're talking about actuation force you should be able to take the lighter springs from the L45s and put them into the raptors.

(by sensitive I mean actuation sensitivity. 0.1 actuation on lekkers is about 0.3 actuation on raptors tmk, this is because the raptors have stronger magnets iirc.)

[halcyon sparrow]

To rephrase so I understand correctly, the .01 actuation on lekkers is the same force as 0.3 on raptors, so raptors require a slighly longer distance but same force?

[agile grove]

I think thats right, pretty sure the raptors have a longer travel distance than the l45s.

[halcyon sparrow]

This is what I have found prior to this question

So taking the lekker stems and springs putting them in the raptor housing should theoretically produce a .01 actuation point, the fastest response times and reliability of the raptors?

[halcyon obsidian]

I'm confused why its saying the raptors are more "consistent"

[halcyon sparrow]

I haven't had hands on with either of them nor have I seen an explanation

[agile grove]

im not entirely sure what you mean or what you are going for. lemme explain a little bit.

if you put the l45 springs into the raptors they'll have the operation forces of the l45s (meaning easier to press). however, the raptor magnet is stronger meaning theoretically you could make the switch activate faster/sooner. if this is what you're going for, then yes, otherwise im not sure what you mean.

[halcyon sparrow]

But I've seen people.mentiom the magnet so I'm assuming its that

[halcyon obsidian]

I think people have just said the magnet is "stronger"

But that doesn't make it more consistent

it just makes it feel lighter

[halcyon sparrow]

That's pretty much it i was just combining your advice with someone's above who mentions the stems

[agile grove]

maybe they mean more consistent because the force difference is 10 rather than the 15 of the lekkers? im really not sure.

[halcyon sparrow]

I am going for the "benefits of both" from what I've been reading

[tawdry tree]

He’s said fastest, he means lightest. He said most consistent, he means most consistent in spring, the raptors have an initial of 42 and bottom of 52, a difference of 10 which is the most consistent of the bunch. I don’t think this has anything to do with switch performance, rapid trigger or actuation point. Afaik you can use .1mm on raptors just fine.

[halcyon sparrow]

Oooohh

[stray tiger]

The switches are calibrated during boot up so even if a magnet is slightly weaker/stronger than another it doesnt matter. The PCB knows your travel distance when you press the switch.

[halcyon obsidian]

another thing I'm confused about is if you use lekker stem aren't you using lekker magnet?

[tawdry tree]

I presume you can switch out the raptor’s spring if you want something heavier but I’m not sure.

[agile grove]

im not talking about travel distance, im talking about how the stronger magnet in the raptors makes them more sensitive

[stray tiger]

But it doesnt because the magnetic strength is taken into account when its calibrated

[tawdry tree]

Yes.

The stem holds the magnet.

[halcyon obsidian]

yeah I would take that post with a big ol grain of salt then

[halcyon sparrow]

They mean the effort your finger has on a press not the keyboards ability to read the press

I'm assuming

[tawdry tree]

It seems accurate but they’re just talking about the springs and force required. Using “fastest” to describe the lightest switch was a poor choice of words.

[halcyon sparrow]

Noted, thanks

[tawdry tree]

Yes.

[halcyon sparrow]

My apologies

[tawdry tree]

The author said “fastest”, not you. 🙂

[agile grove]

really? I remember when the raptors first came out people were talking about how they were more sensitive.

[tawdry tree]

More sensitive than .15mm? 🤣

[halcyon sparrow]

To be transparent the module is my first custom build and I decide I would go full 100% into this looking to mod switches and custom lube and even mod the case

[halcyon sparrow]

Is it possible they were comparing the lekker 60s and not the 45s?

[tawdry tree]

Awesome man! Best of luck and if you don’t know something just ask here.

[stray tiger]

Those people were mistaken. In fact every magnet has a certain level of variance based on a number of factors and they do change over time. Thats why the board recalibrates each time. Otherwise you would have different results even with the same switches.

[tawdry tree]

Probably, or they came from 60s and started using the raptors which are lighter.

[stray tiger]

I can see that being the case. Meaning more "pressure senstive"

[tawdry tree]

Yeah exactly.

[halcyon sparrow]

Does this mean the redditor who posted in the screenshot was incorrect when stating the different actuations?

[tawdry tree]

You mean this?

[halcyon sparrow]

When they state actuation "force" is that pressure or distance?

[tawdry tree]

Pressure.

Not distance.

[halcyon sparrow]

Exactly

[halcyon obsidian]

yeah all he is talking about is the springs and force it takes to press them

[tawdry tree]

They’re only talking about the force required and the springs.

[stray tiger]

Im not aware of the post you're referring to but again the switches are recalibrated each power cycle so even if one switch has a slightly weaker or stronger magnetic force, the board adjusts accordingly (unless were talking a very large variance outside of tolerance levels)

[halcyon sparrow]

Okay so the distance across all should be identical

[halcyon obsidian]

between lekkers and raptors yes

[halcyon sparrow]

Okay cool

[tawdry tree]

All switches mentioned have a travel distance of about 4mm and function properly (0.1mm actuation works).

[halcyon sparrow]

Thank you

[halcyon obsidian]

jades have a closed bottom and have a travel distance of 0.2mm - 3.5mm

[tawdry tree]

0.1mm - 3.5mm.

[halcyon obsidian]

does this not mean 0.2-3.5?

[tawdry tree]

No, it means it can have a difference of 0.2mm

[stray tiger]

It means + or - .2mm meaning there is a variance/tolerance

[tawdry tree]

+/-

[halcyon obsidian]

O

[halcyon sparrow]

I do find the range to be a nice option in case I would like to use the "trigger like range" for things like driving or pressure sensitive actions

[halcyon obsidian]

thank you

[tawdry tree]

That’s only possible with the Analog Profile and not all games support it, fyi.

[halcyon sparrow]

Oh ya because the inputs wouldn't be a controller it would be a keyboard in the settings

[tawdry tree]

For a ranged input you need it to be analog, with digital you only have on/off. 😉

[halcyon sparrow]

One final question lol (sorry for the whole list) changing the stem would be solely to try to remove the key cap wiggle (if the stem is larger then the original)

[halcyon sparrow]

Understood

[tawdry tree]

No problem at all. Yes, stem swapping the the raptors is to reduce stem wobble.

[halcyon sparrow]

Cool I'll take some of my extras apart and see what I will do for the module

[tawdry tree]

With the raptor switches it works alright but the stem can feel a bit tight at first.

[tawdry tree]

👍

[halcyon sparrow]

Id assume a mode like this wouldnt be perfect

Kind of like a scroll wheel on mice with bad qc

I had to file down the PCB of my glorious mouse once 💀

[tawdry tree]

Some who have tried like it a lot after the “break in period” and others prefer something like the Jades over it.

It’s good to give it a shot if you have them already. Maybe you’ll like it.

[wind karma]

klippe T vs redux for sound? 🤔

[stray tiger]

Wont be much of a difference

[agile grove]

pretty much nothing different

[wind karma]

I see thanks

what about weight

im talking about the redux with brass weight btw

[agile grove]

klippe T is just higher quality

[agile grove]

redux with weight is heavier*

[stray tiger]

They are close to the same weight and same material with the same mounting style. The Klippe is better made but more expensive

[agile grove]

~same weight without brass weight

[stray tiger]

Klippe T is roughly 1050grams tofu redux is roughly 800g without weight and tofu Aluminum case approximately 1.08 kg (with brass weight bar)

[wind karma]

oh hm

[stray tiger]

edit

[agile grove]

gotcha, was looking at the weight and both said aprox 1kg

tofu says aprox 1.3kg with weight

[wind karma]

so its 30 grams heavier?

[stray tiger]

From the kbdfans site

[agile grove]

oh mb I was looking at the redux kit

[terse bane]

Do i need to buy o rings to burger mount the module or its included in it ?

[stray tiger]

You need to buy them

[terse bane]

wich size do i need ?

[untold wigeon]

?

[stray tiger]

BURGER MOUNT – This mod is aimed at reducing the sound differences occasionally heard at the mounting points on tray mounted keyboards. This is more prominent with aluminum cases as the frequency changes at the mounting points can be amplified in a metal case. This a simple mod that only requires some 1mmx4mm rubber/silicone o-rings and some slightly longer mounting screws (M2*5-6). The goal is to try and isolate the PCB from the case by placing o-rings on the mounting screws between the PCB and the stand-offs (optionally, you can place a second o-ring between the screw head and the PCB). You can find the Wooting results from burger mounting in this video - https://youtu.be/tlPX6gYSxyU

[untold wigeon]

Module and reg 60he comes with plenty of orings

[stray tiger]

More information can be found here - https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[untold wigeon]

You can do the burger mount out of the box

[stray tiger]

Not sure what you're referring to but they do not.

[untold wigeon]

Yes they do? lol

They come with orings my man

Not enough for keycaps or stabs but enough for burger mount

[stray tiger]

They may come with some peel off protection rings but those are not 4mm burger mount silicone o-rings

[untold wigeon]

the dude in that video is literally using the included orings...

nevermind he isnt

but they come with o rings

that acn be used for the burger mount

10 if i recall

[quiet bay]

if I had those protection rings earlier my stand offs wouldn't look so bad 🗿

reason why I got gummy o ring instead LMAO

[untold wigeon]

weird, mine came with actual o rings but it was from ebay albeit brand new

ive also seen actual staff refer to them as orings and the reviews ive watched they look identical to orings

@stray tiger you're 100% sure the protection rings aren't just renamed orings? because mine definitely came with 10 o rings, but i suppose the seller i got it from couldve put those in there

unless he lost the protection rings and replaced them with orings

[polar girder]

Gummy/friction mount is goated

[stray tiger]

The o-rings in your box looked like this?

Or like this?

[untold wigeon]

this buy i just assumed those on the bottom were the same

unless the image online is misleading

i got these ^

[stray tiger]

Ok then yes your ebay seller swapped them out. The 2nd photo is what comes with the module

[untold wigeon]

yeah akes sense i see why he did it

[stray tiger]

Which to be clear will provide a burger mount like experience, but typically the thicker ones are used when burger mounting.

[halcyon sparrow]

For the modules are there only 2 styles of mounting?

[stray tiger]

Only 1 is officially supported and thats standard tray mount.

[frozen spire]

would tape mod be worth doing to my 60he module? im using tofu60 redux case

[polar girder]

Define “worth”

I would say it’s worth the experiment to see if you like it

Tempest mod takes like 1.5 minutes

[frozen spire]

for a deeper sound i should have said

[frozen spire]

yeah i was asking to see if anyone had done it just incase coz i would have to go buy some tape

[polar girder]

Yes many have but “worth” is subjective

[stray tiger]

deeper, no. Poppier, yes

[mental salmon]

Pre-alumaze status 🙂

[mental salmon]

I will give it a try

[terse bane]

Ok so this should work ?

[stray tiger]

I dont read that language but looks right

[normal schooner]

huh no? its m2 right

not m2.5?

[bronze grove]

Arden is right.

[stray tiger]

Yes its m2

Looked like a multi-pack from the photo and I thought it was 2m-5m. I apologize

[terse bane]

Ah yes my bad

[harsh dove]

Gateron KS20u Sound Test /s

[fluid ravine]

Heh.

You and me both..

OH AND GDAY YALL

@stray tiger spent 15 minutes on putting den contacts on :) (could've been 10 mins but my left one felt itchy so I took em out and clean them again)

[stray tiger]

Better than not getting them in lol

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

Real

How y'all day been

[stray tiger]

Busy work day, knocking stuff out and using AI to make a logo for The Thockfather

[tawdry tree]

(real) lmao

[quiet bay]

it sounds worse than a membrane keyboard

[normal schooner]

[harsh dove]

Welp

Time for a new monitor

Check this out on @Newegg:ASUS 34" 240 Hz OLED Curved Gaming Monitor NVIDIA G-Sync 3440 x 1440 (2K) DCI-P3 99% sRGB 135% ROG Swift OLED PG34WCDM https://www.newegg.com/black-asus-rog-swift-oled-pg34wcdm-34/p/N82E16824281295?Item=N82E16824281295&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-24-281-295-_-01162024

[tawdry tree]

I cba about monitors man, it was a dead market for a few years and now every year there’s a new best

[tropic storm]

sounds amazingg

[harsh dove]

Thank you

[stray tiger]

Have they fixed the OLED burn-in issues?

[normal schooner]

yes i have a oled monitor

[tawdry tree]

Screen savers 🤣

[normal schooner]

no issues

all you need to do is pixel cleaning 1 time a day , which lasts 5minuts and the screen goes black

pg27aqdm

[mental salmon]

It seems they added a cooling system as well

[stray tiger]

That wont work when using it all day

[late pulsar]

O-ring mounted module with magnetic jades is heaven

[harsh dove]

For the most part yes, the main complaints you’ll find online are from people who don’t know how to care for an OLED or they consume A LOT of 16:9 content on an UW

[tawdry tree]

I think that’s what the new oleds do

[harsh dove]

I’ve had no issues with my current Samsung OLED G8

[late pulsar]

no comparison between the old one 🙂

[normal schooner]

thats a tv not a monitor 😛

[tawdry tree]

This is as a screensaver right?

[harsh dove]

And I’ve had it past the 6 month “death mark”

[tropic storm]

"SNIPER NIGHT VISION"...

wtf are these built in monitor features

[harsh dove]

People claim issues after 6 ‘months

[normal schooner]

no its not

it cleans the pixel to prevent image retention

[tawdry tree]

Oh thought I saw that in a vid

how does it work?

[harsh dove]

lol true

[normal schooner]

they are not open about that. I tried to google it

[tawdry tree]

you have to manually start the process each time?

I hope not

😂

[normal schooner]

yes you get a notification from the monitor they want u to clean it, but u can do it a bit later if e.g. youre in game.

I get it once every day. and I use my pc the whole day

[harsh dove]

No

It happens every time the monitor turns off

I was concerned about this at first too but if you look up the manual pdf, it states that it does pixel optimization every time it powers off

[tawdry tree]

And that prevents burn in? REALLY?

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[tawdry tree]

That is insane

That’s a massive leap forward

[harsh dove]

I also use dynamic taskbar, no desktop icons, and don’t consume any 16:9 content except Netflix sometimes

[tawdry tree]

Yeah but you don’t really need to then right?

Or you have an older model without the burn in prevention?

[mental salmon]

In CES a 480Hz OLED monitor was announced

[tawdry tree]

Yeah

A whole lot of crazy at ces this year

[loud zephyr]

Is this the one with dual res, 240hz at 4k and then 480hz at 1080p. Perfect for solo games and switching to sweaty mode

[tawdry tree]

Yes

[loud zephyr]

[tawdry tree]

2024 the year of OLED.

(in monitors)

[scarlet blaze]

I'd just like to point out for you all, since you're all so steeped in this.... You may not see the forest anymore.
You are all so.... so very nerdy.... Nerds. The lot of you.
Ok... please continue.
I'm learning.🤓

[tawdry tree]

That’s the politest way to call everyone a nerd. 😂

[loud zephyr]

You can be a fitness nerd, car nerd, keyboard nerd and if you're not nerding out. Ya probably dead inside. D.E.D

[scarlet blaze]

Nothing wrong with it... It's cozy.
And I have learned a lot in a short order....
But this a a deep lil pocket in the tubes. Deep, dank, nerdy lil pocket, FILLED with nerds.

[loud zephyr]

ok, nerd

https://tenor.com/esAv47sz9NP.gif

[scarlet blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/ded-dead-dead-ded-raksha-bandhan-2023-wishes-robin-hood-gif-16197208948599534646

[scarlet blaze]

As they say, it takes one to know one.
I'm already all signed up.

[harsh dove]

No, probably not but I like it setup that way and nah, I have a newer model from July 2023

[untold wigeon]

lol

oled is a very long way from being the standard

[harsh dove]

Thank you

[tawdry tree]

I use translucenttb. I can’t stand dynamic tb 🤣

[tawdry tree]

If burn in is no longer a problem like it used to be, it’s gonna be very popular this year.

[harsh dove]

OLED def hits different

I really like QD OLED tho

[untold wigeon]

oled is alwsys gonna have burn in issues

its organic

until oled monitors drop massively in price

[harsh dove]

Yeah it’s more like burn in prevention

[untold wigeon]

and get impressive warranties

they will not become a standard

[harsh dove]

Also have to make sure your brands warranty covers burn in

Some do not

[untold wigeon]

theyre currently for a very small audience, and itll be that way for while

Awhile

[normal schooner]

idk man I have an oled tv from 2019 and still no burn issues today. its 4 years later

[tawdry tree]

The new ones from asus have normal warranty I think

[untold wigeon]

tv way different, way easier to keep static elem3nts at bay

[harsh dove]

It’s usually between 2-4 years warranty

[untold wigeon]

monitors not so much

tvs also seem to have better tech in them currently since theyve been made for much much longer

[normal schooner]

ok whatever u say. my friends also have oled monitors without issues

[untold wigeon]

I have 2023 oled monitors with burn in

Taken care of pixel cleaner user

Your friends experiences dont nullify the issue.

[tawdry tree]

bro played the same game 20 hours a day for a year straight.

[untold wigeon]

Theres burn in reports all over from the lg alienware abd asus

And

OLED has no mid range or budget options

its a very long way from being a standard

[agile grove]

im not sure if this is still an issue with recent panels but theres also mura (I for one have a steam deck oled with pretty bad noticeable mura)

[untold wigeon]

LCD will remain king till people are comfortable with burn in possibility and oled has a selection of monitors at multiple price points

LCD also is still motion clarity king due to ULMB2 and 540HZ E-TN

[harsh dove]

Yeah OLED is kinda niche and expensive

[tawdry tree]

I don’t know about the burn in issues, I know it happened very often but there’s a prevention technique now

[harsh dove]

Would love to see more people adopt OLED tho as the tech gets better

[untold wigeon]

There has always been prevention

It doesnt nullify anything

[tawdry tree]

Yes but to a point where there is no burn in.

[untold wigeon]

That is nkt true

Oled is orgsnic

[tawdry tree]

Not my words.

[untold wigeon]

Organic

Burn in is ALWAYS going to be there

It degrades.

No burn in is not and will not be a thing

[agile grove]

is mura still bad on oled panels?

[untold wigeon]

Microled this year will be bigger than oled

[harsh dove]

Haven’t experienced it personally on the two I own

[untold wigeon]

A microled monitor with MBR would slaughter OLED

[untold wigeon]

not as much

[agile grove]

it depends on the manufacturer I think

[untold wigeon]

alienware and lg are thr go to for oled monitors

[harsh dove]

Main issue with monitors for me is color accuracy and ghosting . Panels are personal preference in terms of LCD, MLED and OLED

[agile grove]

I got a steam deck oled (tbf this is generally just a steamdeck oled issue) and the mura is pretty dissapointing

[untold wigeon]

asus should be avoided, but most know that

OLED atm simply cant compete with 540hz E TN LCD

for clarity

[harsh dove]

I have an ASUS and Samsung OLED

no issues

[normal schooner]

same no issues

[agile grove]

really?

[tawdry tree]

asus and dells new monitors both use samsungs pannel no?

[harsh dove]

Yes

They all use same panel

[normal schooner]

no always lg panels

[untold wigeon]

dells warranty and qc is a million times better

also thr panel isnt the most important thing

[harsh dove]

Alienware and LG have better warranty than Samsung but iirc Samsung updated theirs as well

[untold wigeon]

its how the panel is tuned

[tawdry tree]

the one from dell from ces uses Samsung’s

[untold wigeon]

if the panel is tuned badly, its going to be shit

[tawdry tree]

that goes for every monitor

[untold wigeon]

yes

im aware

i was saying in general

also were gonna piss off the mods talking monitors here

lmao

[normal schooner]

well this is going nowhere

[harsh dove]

Tbf all of my ASUS monitors had better QC and Color accuracy out of box than the other monitors I’ve tested

[tawdry tree]

🤣

[untold wigeon]

older asus was good

[tawdry tree]

My friend had an asus 1440p 240hz ips and after a year 3 dead picels 🤣

[harsh dove]

Ilol yeah they are older ones

[untold wigeon]

asus in 2024 is uhh

nkt the best company

theyre pretty fucking bad these days lol

[harsh dove]

Damn

[tawdry tree]

That was like 4 years ago though

idk about asus these days

[harsh dove]

After that 7800X3D and Motherboard fiasco lol

They kinda dropped the ball

[untold wigeon]

yeah that was abhorrent

i need to return my 7900 xtx

prices are tanking lol

[harsh dove]

lol yea and meanwhile 4090 prices going up

https://youtu.be/o4TNuvJvSk0?si=bOrjQgJkHDnQXe_V

[harsh dove]

Like I said, ASUS got the that color accuracy dialed in lol

Beautiful

[stray tiger]

Yeah thats really good

[harsh dove]

💯

[fluid ravine]

@harsh dove hows the jades with the tx ap stabs

[harsh dove]

Amazing tbh, haven’t had any issues that I’ve noticed while gaming

[fluid ravine]

good

[harsh dove]

No keycap wobble or anything

[fluid ravine]

doc got them but he had the wobble issues

[fluid ravine]

thats good

[harsh dove]

I think my gmk caps just happen to have a really tight tolerance where the stems go in

But who knows

[fluid ravine]

have any other keycaps other than gmk

[harsh dove]

Yeah I’ll test out the stock wooting caps when I get home actually

Just on the stabs

[fluid ravine]

typimh with no keycaps rn

[fluid ravine]

k

[harsh dove]

Lmao

Just remind me later today if I forget

[fluid ravine]

what time?

[harsh dove]

In like 4-5 hrs

[fluid ravine]

Ok

Gonna clean my keycaps

[harsh dove]

Warm water and soap brother

[austere creek]

im confused as to why theres scissors

[fluid ravine]

Yep got it

[fluid ravine]

Had to cut smth
Dont worry abt it

[harsh dove]

He’s gonna scrape his finger dirt off the keycaps with scissors

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[austere creek]

great

[fluid ravine]

Cheetos dust go hard

[austere creek]

i usually use beltsanders for this

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[harsh dove]

Oh nice

I use a gemstone buffer

[fluid ravine]

💀

Ok ima go wash dem now

Cyya in a bit

[harsh dove]

Enjoy

[thin notch]

I don't eat near my keyboard

seeing oil on keycaps makes me want to do bad things

also how can somme people stand using a phone with greasy fingers

[shell geode]

@fluid ravine Hey! Did you see my video I tagged you in?

[fluid ravine]

link?

[shell geode]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[fluid ravine]

ohh

yeah i forgot i watched it

how was stem wobble

with stem swap

[shell geode]

More wobble than the Jades

[fluid ravine]

o see

[shell geode]

I'm pretty happy with them after relubing and taping

[harsh dove]

How’s the tape feel?

And how many layers you do? One I assume

[shell geode]

Feels good! The slight spring ping I was noticing is now gone

[harsh dove]

Nice

[shell geode]

Yup, just one on each side of the housing

[harsh dove]

Gotch, I probably won’t do it myself as I already did that on Lekkers but happy to hear some feedback with it on the Jades

[fluid ravine]

Sound test?

[shell geode]

Oh, like a typing test? Sure I can do that tonight

[harsh dove]

Sweet

[fluid ravine]

K

[shell geode]

Now that I've gotten rid of that hollow and spring ping by swapping to the Jades, I'm pretty happy with my Woot and I'm done modding it, it's now where I am satisfied with it being. Before I would swap it out when working, but now I actually enjoy using it outside of gaming

[mental salmon]

What is the program/webpage people use for the typing tests? That also shows words per minute?

[shell geode]

You can try monkeytype

[muted sequoia]

just ordered the wooting module, going for the tofu cases - i like silver. but any idea what keycaps fit w silver? I don't want too colorful

[stray tiger]

Any color except beige/brown

[muted sequoia]

i wanna get a neutral one but feel like black white wont fit w silver so is shades of grey the only option?

[stray tiger]

Black or white both look great with silver

[muted sequoia]

current setup looks like this

[mental salmon]

Not for Wooting, but for a silver case I have put blue and also purple keycaps, both look good

[muted sequoia]

would fit w my starlight as well ig

[mental salmon]

What is your take regarding keycap colors for the Concrete Alumaze?

[stray tiger]

Anything except silver

[fluid ravine]

finished cleaning my keyc aps

[lunar dagger]

WoB

[fluid ravine]

they smooth as hell now

[cyan adder]

eeeeh i was gonna buy the jades soon but my french local store just received a raptor HE batch what u guys think about raptor vs jade again? lets fight

[fluid ravine]

lmao

[fluid ravine]

jades

i want jades really bad right now but i still want to was for the KS-20U reviews

board atm sounds meh

decent but meh

[harsh dove]

Same, I bring mine to work all the time

Coworkers love it lol

[harsh dove]

I’d get you some if I wasn’t about to buy a $1300 monitor lmao

[devout torrent]

Ks-20u I think someone posted an email here

should be avail after cny

[harsh dove]

Jades win in the first round by TKO

https://tenor.com/view/kinblood-ko-boxing-knock-out-gif-12154201

[fluid ravine]

real

LMAO

[shell geode]

Since we're getting closer, I think you should really wait to see if you want them over the Jades, you're in no rush right?

[fluid ravine]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

idk if i am or not

[shell geode]

Once I heard the Jades, I knew I wanted them, because I really wanted to enjoy my Woot

[fluid ravine]

you do!?

[fluid ravine]

fr

[fluid ravine]

DAMN WHAT MONITOR ARE YOU GETTING

[harsh dove]

lol yeah

[devout torrent]

prolly one of the new oleds

[harsh dove]

Gotta make use of that carrying case somehow

[harsh dove]

New ASUS PG34WCDM

[devout torrent]

very nice

[fluid ravine]

holy shiet 😭

[devout torrent]

I have the dell AW3423DWF since rlease

love it

[harsh dove]

Yeah I currently am using the Samsung version of that

Odyssey OLED G8

[devout torrent]

the Asus is semi gloss right?

not matte/AG?

[harsh dove]

Matte

[devout torrent]

it looks really good, and 240 hz

oof

I hate matte coatgings

[fluid ravine]

240 hz 1440p?

[harsh dove]

But it’s actually one of the best matte coatings I’ve seen

Yes

And yeah matte coating is controversial in OLED community

But this one looks great imo

[devout torrent]

yeah I just dislike matte in generall

[harsh dove]

Comparison

[devout torrent]

even on non-oleds

yeah I'm watching tshi rn

lol

[fluid ravine]

woah :0

[devout torrent]

it looks pretty good though

[harsh dove]

Right lol

[devout torrent]

if someone drops a 240hz glossy ultrawide I will upgrade

[harsh dove]

They will

Glossy is more popular

That new ASUS uses an LG panel anyway

So LG will come out with their own and may or may not have a diff coating

And other brands will make versions as well using same panel

[devout torrent]

yeah for sure

glossy + gsync pulsar is the dream rn

[harsh dove]

I’m curious about the strong 800R Curve tho

[devout torrent]

I think youll get used to it

[harsh dove]

Oh forsure

[devout torrent]

aggresive curve seems better anyways tbh

the AW is barely curved

[harsh dove]

Just gonna be different from my current 1800R lol

[harsh dove]

Agreed

[devout torrent]

yea

[harsh dove]

Depends on content tho

[devout torrent]

true

also its funny when you go cfrom aggressive curve

to a flat panel

[harsh dove]

Flat content is better on the 1800R

[devout torrent]

you brain is like wtf

[harsh dove]

Lmao yeah

I’m curious to see how different it feels to my current monitor aside from any placebo effects lol

Anytime you buy something new, it’s just better bro

[devout torrent]

me evertyime I buy a new mouse

[rotund wedge]

do i need to clip the feet of the stock stabs on the wooting for holee mod?

[stray tiger]

no

[rotund wedge]

ty!

[stray tiger]

Thats the excuse Im using tomorrow when the Samsung S24 launches. Still rocking my Note 20 and finally feel like I need to upgrade but not sure why other than its new lol

[harsh dove]

lol man, exactly. I’m sure I don’t even need to upgrade. I might not pull the trigger on it just yet. Ima do more research when I get home and see how I feel

[agile grove]

me when I start considering buying jades:

[harsh dove]

Might wait it out for later this year to see what other ones pop up

[agile grove]

also me when I start considering buying jades:

[harsh dove]

lol well they showed a lot of monitors at CES

Plus Alienware and LG warranties cover Burn-In and Samsung and ASUS do not

Not that I’ve had burn issues on my Samsung and ASUS but still

I do like this feature a lot tho. Hopefully the other new monitors come with this as well

[stray tiger]

How is it different than a normal KVM?

[harsh dove]

Cause it’s Smart

https://tenor.com/view/skeletor-laughing-running-80s-retro-cartoon-hahahaha-gif-12615111

[devout torrent]

some other monitors have KVMs already

pretty useful for those that need it

[quick gulch]

The ultra wides are really cool would have liked to have seen more burn in prevention stuff but the 4k model is sick

Seems like the same panel as last year but it can actually push 4k 240 not just 60

But probably won’t see anything really cool until we get some micro led monitors perhaps

[harsh dove]

lol tbh it’s the same thing @stray tiger

Just ASUS version of it ig tryna make it more seamless

[stray tiger]

The older 240hz gigabyte monitors I have include a built in KVM and I never use it

[quick gulch]

I’m sure there’s people out there who want it

[harsh dove]

Shame on you lol nah some people either use it or don’t . It can be useful tho

[quick gulch]

They have to stand out otherwise people will just get lgs rather than a brand

[harsh dove]

Yeah

https://youtu.be/GJf6iBDIyOc?si=3ftIsjC0ugUxv5S_

For any curious

[quiet bay]

30 New Oleds that I can’t afford

[harsh dove]

Alright I think ima just wait for a 240Hz QDOLED 34” UW Preferably Glossy Finish but idc either way for my specific setup.

I prefer QD OLED over WOLED

[stray tiger]

Cam are you running a 4090?

[harsh dove]

yes sir

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/moneystacks-baller-asiangirl-money-happy-gif-18612166

My PC is over 3yrs old rocking a 3080 and all i did was changed the CPU to a 5800x3d and I feel like it runs everything I play great at 1440p 240hz (which admittedly is mainly FPS)

[harsh dove]

That’s a super solid PC

Them 3D chips change the game

[stray tiger]

Yeah seems like it runs great. I think when I do upgrade itll be to an ITX build though

[harsh dove]

Can I suggest a case for you lol?

[stray tiger]

Then I can get this giant tower off the floor

[harsh dove]

Or at least one to look at

[stray tiger]

do it

[harsh dove]

https://news.coolermaster.com/2023/05/29/ncore100-max/

[stray tiger]

I liked the one from the recent optimum tech video

ohhh that looks nice

[harsh dove]

Yeah I like it a lot

[agile grove]

for when you want your pc to look like a garbage can

[harsh dove]

Lmao

That’s not nice

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/broke-no-cash-gif-25565154

[harsh dove]

Garbage can from the future

Or garbage can from Japan cause yanno they have nice things

[fluid ravine]

real

[harsh dove]

Gotta scan your face before you can throw something away

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/the-question-question-faceless-detective-noir-gif-17542996

what face

[stray tiger]

This is the one from OT I saw - https://www.dan-cases.com/c4sfx.php

[harsh dove]

lol it’s in reference to those new vending machines they have that require Face ID

[agile grove]

perhaps even a space heater PC

[harsh dove]

That’s super clean too, reminds me of the NR200P

https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/cases/mini-itx/masterbox-nr200p/

[stray tiger]

The current rig

[harsh dove]

O11 EVO?

[stray tiger]

yeah razer edition

[harsh dove]

Very nice

[uncut musk]

clean setup

[stray tiger]

And I dont even use the RGB lol

[harsh dove]

Good lol

[agile grove]

this PC case looks like a wii https://www.newegg.com/white-fractal-design-ridge-small-form-factor/p/11-352-211?Item=11-352-211&cm_sp=product-_-from-price-options

[harsh dove]

I use RGB on my rig but it’s just white with red accents

[agile grove]

currently I use rainbow vomit

[harsh dove]

Eww

I did a dim white with rainbow accents before tho and it wasn’t bad

[stray tiger]

I think the only non keyboard/streaming purchases I made recently are new cushions for my chair which should be here Friday.

[uncut musk]

i just have a static white on my cooler

[stray tiger]

I like monochrome builds. People sleep on it sometimes

[harsh dove]

But this is my current

These aren’t like great pictures lol. I was using them to show a friend, fan orientation

[uncut musk]

I want to do a full white set up but uh the white parts are more expensive 😭

[stray tiger]

Yeah that looks clean man

[harsh dove]

Same

I wanna do monochrome makeover to my setup

[uncut musk]

looks so good damn

[fluid ravine]

i was abt to say, was that a vertical mount but VERTICAL

if that makes sense

[harsh dove]

Lmao yeah

[stray tiger]

The only thing that scares me about an ITX setup is the noise. My rig is big but its silent, even when gaming.

[mental salmon]

G500A or what is the case?

[harsh dove]

I have a vertical bracket but I prefer not too

[harsh dove]

Yeah same I run quiet fan curves

Although this new AIO isn’t as quiet as I’d like it to be compared to my previous

[harsh dove]

Lian Li Lancool III

[stray tiger]

In fact, I just recently had to switch out the laptop I was going to stream with because it was so damn loud

[harsh dove]

Mini leaf blower

[mental salmon]

Seem couple videos about that brand in Hardware Canucks

[stray tiger]

My wasnt either but I changed out all the LianLi fans and now Im running 9 of the phantek t30's

[mental salmon]

I have a Phanteks case

[harsh dove]

Yeah I’m a Lian Li shill

[uncut musk]

I already hate doing cable management in my atx case, can only imagine how perfect cable management has to be in an itx case for it to be nice

[quick gulch]

It really doesn’t

[stray tiger]

Im prepared to solder custom cables

[quick gulch]

Most itx cases expect you to have long cables so there’s space for them. Unless you’re doing something crazy

[uncut musk]

https://youtu.be/-O4OWP0TPtE?si=Wg6IfJdjVJkc4-eo this board sounds so nice

[harsh dove]

My cable management

[quick gulch]

Getting custom sized cables is nice though

[harsh dove]

I have updated it tho so that cable on the right isn’t as noticeable

[uncut musk]

My first ever computer was itx and I had no idea what I was doing and it was a fucking rat nest in there

[stray tiger]

everythign alex builds turns out nice

[bronze grove]

Cables you say?

[uncut musk]

His spacebars are always so satisfying

…

Jesus

[bronze grove]

The utter nightmare of dealing with 9 RGB fans, of which have two cables each, plus three controllers.

[harsh dove]

Why I love Lian Li

Literally

[uncut musk]

Gotta get those cool ones

That like

Daisy chain

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-gingerbread-man-you-are-a-monster-broken-leg-shrek-gif-5498298

[harsh dove]

Other brands have made strides tho in fans. Most have magnetic fan connections now

[bronze grove]

Myeah... next time definitely grabbing those.

[harsh dove]

They all learned from Lian Li lol

[bronze grove]

This is just to control fans and RGB.

WITH cable management.

[uncut musk]

O,g

Omg

[harsh dove]

Oof yeah OG Corsair fans

[normal schooner]

aside from the cable management

[harsh dove]

I remember those

[normal schooner]

thats a good pc

good parts

[uncut musk]

Definitely has a lot of air

[harsh dove]

I hated Corsair for that design

Node Pros and Commander Pros

So annoying

[bronze grove]

Gotta have my bling.

[harsh dove]

And the commander pro is like $80 alone

[stray tiger]

Have you seen the CES motherboards/cases this year with the new form factor to reverse mount all the connections?

[harsh dove]

Looks great Mansen

[uncut musk]

It’s all worth it

[harsh dove]

Yes, I love them BUT, I see major issues in terms of case compatibility

Haven’t seen or tested myself but I expect there to be case issues

[stray tiger]

I think its just Asus and MSI

[harsh dove]

Ah okay

[bronze grove]

It's all still very theoretical.

Due to the whole legal situation.

[uncut musk]

are those the motherboards ltt made a video on

[harsh dove]

Right cause I worry about those ports being blocked by the motherboard tray

[bronze grove]

Mhmm. They made one from CES with an update.

[harsh dove]

And if you don’t have a case with an adjustable motherboard tray

[stray tiger]

Yeah MSI calls it project zero and Asus calls it BTF

[bronze grove]

I'm not a fan - Because it means adding more complexity to motherboards, which makes them more expensive.

Those proposed GPU power sockets instead of cables.

[harsh dove]

Right I like the idea but agree

[uncut musk]

Yeah I feel like a few cables don’t look bad

[harsh dove]

And personally, I like seeing cables if you have good cable management

But I can see the appeal of no cables

Eveyrthing is just “floating” so to speak

[uncut musk]

Kinda like how some people don’t want any cables on their desk at all, not even for their keyboards

[harsh dove]

Yeah basically

[stray tiger]

We call those people blasphemers

[harsh dove]

I have a friend who like the NZXT boards cause they cover everything but I actually prefer to see the “bits & bobs” on the motherboard

It’s like a little metropolitan city to me lol

[uncut musk]

Lmao fr

[bronze grove]

I was so close to buying the original one they made.

[harsh dove]

Oof

[bronze grove]

But I screwed apart the ASRock I had instead and gave it a brush over.

[harsh dove]

Pretty sure those had issues iirc, no?

The NZXT one

[bronze grove]

Note the grimy look on the cover on the left. Took me hours to do.

[placid field]

this is why i got daisy chain fans instead of corsair fans xD

[harsh dove]

Idk why I really like the way that grimy metal looks

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/its-been84years-titanic-rose-dawson-gif-5372593

[harsh dove]

Gives me like old spaceship vibes

From Destiny or something

[bronze grove]

Putting those old Warhammer painting skills to work 😄

[harsh dove]

It’s like you took that part out of a spaceship junkyard, cleaned it up and made it work

[stray tiger]

Need to see the finished product

Now I see why you want my beskar keycaps @bronze grove

[bronze grove]

Don't have the motherboard anymore sadly.

But it was an important part of my then and current case. Going hard on that Cyberpunk theme. Neon and grime.

[harsh dove]

lol my friends dad used to paint Warhammer figurines all the time

Love me some Warhammer

[bronze grove]

Old photo I have of the board all done.

[harsh dove]

Helmet gives Dead Space vibe

[bronze grove]

Yeah the artist had full freedom. Mixed a bunch of things. The little screen is Pokemon Blue

[harsh dove]

Haha that’s awesome

You got a nice PC man, that’s some sick work

[bronze grove]

[stray tiger]

yeah impressed

After seeing your throw back bbox board I wasnt expecting this lol

Figured you kept up with the retro vibe

[bronze grove]

I have two very radically different themes. 80s grey and neon cyberpunk 😄

[harsh dove]

lol I call my PC Silverblood

From Star Trek

[bronze grove]

This is why I have the 80s style Bbox (I also have the transparent purple one)

[fluid ravine]

thats so cute 😭

[harsh dove]

Wow that’s awesome lol. We got one of the old Apple computers thru my job recently idk if I have photos or not

Had that same mouse with it

No keyboard tho

[fluid ravine]

how to check cables in prebuilt pc

[normal schooner]

i saw that on 2 places

3

here

wootup

module 60he+ webpage

[bronze grove]

I still have all the little notes you shits put on my board 😄

[normal schooner]

thats not something I would write

[bronze grove]

[harsh dove]

Wym lol

[fluid ravine]

i just wanna take a peek at my cables but idk how to take the panel off cus im a dumbass

[harsh dove]

Should be 1-2 screws holding it on or it could have some sort of clips or pop tabs

[void hollow]

i just came back to say hi

[fluid ravine]

hmmm.. ok

ima look into it later

[void hollow]

i swear i could never

but that indeed looks fucking fire

[bronze grove]

https://imgur.com/a/QVTYZp7
Even better in motion (old video)

[void hollow]

i always love the blue purple mix. im running a blue purple too, just that its a way lighter and simple rgb. would really prefer yours anyday man

gskill trident?

[bronze grove]

The blingiest Royal ones.

Freebies from my reviewer days.

[void hollow]

oh right i got the name wrong HAHA, BUT STILL ITS AMAZING

and those fans are?

[bronze grove]

QL120's from Corsair.

[void hollow]

holy shit i didnt know corsair made something so fire although i have ptsd from their software

[bronze grove]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message
Before you buy them. This is the wiring required for the 9 fans.

[void hollow]

no daisy chaining

[bronze grove]

Not on these ones. Maybe the newer Corsair ones.

[void hollow]

normal i guess for corsair products, im currently like running a mix of daisy chain case fans and standard ones haha

[harsh dove]

Yeah the new Corsair fans have magnetic connections

No wires

[void hollow]

magnetic

[marble shuttle]

Lianli inf fans 👌

[void hollow]

wow i havent really looked into the pc building market for quite some time and thing have changed eh

[harsh dove]

Yeah Lian Li was really the first to do magnetic connectors

[void hollow]

anyone into those case fan spacers that help to mute the decibels by a little

[harsh dove]

I think optimum tech did a video on that

[void hollow]

yeah haha i saw the video, the 3d printing one right

[harsh dove]

Yea

[void hollow]

im currently rocking the fractal design meshify c, and im thinking like it doesnt really look as good as it is advertised

too broke to change shit anyways

[marble shuttle]

If you want to upgrade gpu in future i think it might be not good choice otherwise if they will make smaller gpus

But really good case tho

[void hollow]

im gonna have a really big problem upgrading, and anyways i usually get the rog dual series so yea

im currently still on old mobos, old cpu slots and old pcie

[marble shuttle]

The sizez of gpus are problem.. not a case actually

[harsh dove]

Yeah the 4000 Series overengineered the air cooler designs so they have bigger air coolers than they really need

[marble shuttle]

I am waiting lianli vision in my country

Want to set up with inf fans

[harsh dove]

Yeah I like that case but I don't need to be buying a new case lol

[marble shuttle]

What case do you have

Dynamic evo ?

[harsh dove]

Lian Li Lancool III

[marble shuttle]

Ohh literally we have same case

I have lancool I I performance mesh

[harsh dove]

lol Yeah I bought it for the 4090 tbh just cause it has a lot of room and air flow