🔧│keyboard_modding

[fluid ravine]

perfect for pochizo's hand'

[polar girder]

Too heavy

[quiet bay]

sadly I don't use fingertip grip

I wouldn't have enough control lol

[mental salmon]

What is your grip and current main?

[sonic crown]

Has anyone had a hard time unscrewing the plate screws?

[tawdry tree]

They’re tightened, quite a bit.

[sonic crown]

I can't say quite a bit mine are too tight and it is no fun trying to get them out

[agile grove]

what kinda screw driver are you using?

[sonic crown]

I was trying to pull out the switches but they are also very hard

[tawdry tree]

Mine were tight but not hard to get out.

[tawdry tree]

You’re using a switch puller?

[sonic crown]

Yea

[sonic crown]

I have a PH1 tip which should be the correct one

[tawdry tree]

Are you sure you’re using it correctly? Switches have 2 clips on the front and back of the switch. If you press those in with the switch puller it should come right out.

[sonic crown]

Yeah

[tawdry tree]

This happens with every switch or only one?

[agile grove]

I meant is it one of the small little tech repair screw drivers or like an actual screw driver sorry

[fluid yacht]

https://youtu.be/IfiILqbFMnI?si=XMO1JGf8rbwxFI73 has anyone tried these raptorshe

[tawdry tree]

Many, they’re better than Lekkers but not as good as Jades, tolerance wise.

[sonic crown]

Most of them are hard but I was able to unscrew some of the plate screws which helped remove the switches

[tawdry tree]

Some have had good experiences with the stem swapped Raptors, Lekker stem with Raptor’s housing.

[sonic crown]

The switch that is closer to the screw the harder it is

[sonic crown]

The small ones

[tawdry tree]

The switch plate screws?

[sonic crown]

The screws that goes through the PCB and plate

[agile grove]

its hard to unscrew things with those little screwdrivers, not ideal

do you happen to have any actual screwdrivers on hand?

[sonic crown]

Nope

[tawdry tree]

Okay, those screws don’t affect how difficult it is to get the switches out.

[sonic crown]

Ic

[tawdry tree]

I don’t mean any offense but have you watched a tutorial? Because it really shouldn’t require much force at all.

[sonic crown]

Rn I only have 28 switches that are not pulled yet but hard af

[sonic crown]

I have pulled out switches before

[tawdry tree]

Hmm

Is your switch puller bent maybe?

That can happen sometimes

[sonic crown]

Don't think so

[agile grove]

I dont have a switch puller

I might get one eventually

but like I hate some tweezer that I think might be able to get the job done

[sonic crown]

Originally was going to pull it out with the PCB but it was hard so I tried unscrewing the PCB off the plate

[tawdry tree]

Very odd, you could send it or take out the module, unscrew the switch plate from the bottom and then try.

[tawdry tree]

Get a good switch puller when u do, you don’t wanna scratch you plate or damage your switches

[sonic crown]

Was trying to unscrew it but it's quite tight

Was able to unscrew 5 of them

[agile grove]

any recommendations? I was just thinking of getting a glorious switch puller but it seems sorta overpriced.

[tawdry tree]

Only one more I think.

[tawdry tree]

I used the gateron one but I got it for free

[agile grove]

which did you get?

[tawdry tree]

but that has been great

so easy lmao

[supple girder]

Got a question. My 60HE is coming in NA-SEA with the new PCB and im wondering if magnetic jades work with that out of the box? I just got these switches a few days ago

[agile grove]

they should

you may have some issues with the stabs

[supple girder]

yeah i heard something about the stabs should I be changing them

[agile grove]

but I'd recommend you just try it before getting new stabs

[tawdry tree]

Jades have a travel distance of 3.5mm compared to Lekker’s 4mm so the lowest actuation point you can set in Wootility is 3.5mm, lower than that and the actuation point is below the reach of the Jades so it won’t register.

Also use the Wootility Beta.

It does.

Gateron yapping

[agile grove]

pretty sure setting it to 4mm wont break it

or so I've heard

[tawdry tree]

No need. Because the Jade’s travel distance is 3.5mm and the stems have a travel distance of 4mm you need to really press the keycap in above each stab.

[tawdry tree]

The Jades use the KS-20 stem and magnet so it’d be weird if 4mm worked by default on Jades. I don’t think that’s the case.

[agile grove]

I've heard that 0.3 is pretty much like 0.1 on lekkers

[tawdry tree]

I think so.

[stray tiger]

Please ignore Aligner's comment. As of today, continue to set your actuation to 4.0 even with the Jades

[tawdry tree]

All that matters really is that the magnets are within range of the HE sensor, if that’s the case I believe recalibration solves any issues.

[tawdry tree]

Wootility update?

[stray tiger]

No but as typical, you lack all of the information and then talk as if it's gospel and that causes confusion. Per Simon

[tawdry tree]

Syte advised to use Wootility Beta, that’s what he said.

[stray tiger]

Yes but even in the latest beta you still need to set it to 4.0 to get the full range.

[tawdry tree]

Yes, in Wootility you should set it to max 3.5 and in Wootility beta to 4mm.

3.5mm

The maximum of 4mm.

Not set it to 4mm 😉

[tawdry tree]

I worded this wrong, should be “Or use Wootility Beta”.

[tawdry tree]

In agreement? Also “as typical”? 🤨

[stray tiger]

Please provide a link to the message you saw from Wooting that says to set it to 3.5 in the non-beta Wootility.

[tawdry tree]

Looking for it

Can’t find it

#archived_wooting_60he message

I know he said it

but can’t find it in discord search

[agile grove]

pretty sure hes right about the actuation in non beta wootility

[tawdry tree]

This was 3 days ago so not “lacking information”.

[stray tiger]

Well if you find a message from him saying that please let me know as it's not what was conveyed to me internally. Otherwise, please be sure the information you share has been validated and confirmed as accurate. The ultimate goal is to help people, not create more problems or confusion.

If you find it I'll pin it to help make it clear. Until then time for dinner

[tawdry tree]

That’s what I’m trying to do. Still not sure about that “As typical” though. 🧐

[stray tiger]

It means this wouldn't be the first time you have stated something as Wooting fact that isn't. I'm asking you to be more careful.

[tawdry tree]

Simon will probably say it again or when Wootility Beta is no longer in Beta 😉

[tawdry tree]

Could you elaborate after dinner?

[agile grove]

imo its pretty simple to understand. you have said in the past things as a fact when they werent.

it seems like you pull things from memory rather than backing them up

or hearsay even

[tawdry tree]

I ask for the thing(s) I presented as fact but weren’t. As that’s misguidance.

[tawdry tree]

I try to back everything up, with this I couldn’t find Syte’s message. I did say the exact same thing 3 days ago so I was either guessing the impossible or it was accurate and not my own word.

“As typical” I would understand as “happing often”, that’s why I ask for an example. So I can learn from it as well.

[polar girder]

Yeah just go through your own chat history. It speaks for itself.

I feel like we just had this conversation a little while ago. Or maybe I’m tripping

[frosty sentinel]

Yeah. There was a post (maybe a tweet?) stating if you are using jade switches to set max actuation to 3.5mm.

It was both posted in here, and on Reddit.. it’s weird that it can’t be found anywhere tho

[polar girder]

I mean it only has 3.5 of travel

So it would make sense to just set it accordingly

[gloomy stratus]

anyone know of any cream and black keycaps? the only ones i've seen are from tai hao but they've been out of stock for years.

[glacial wind]

You could make a custom set by buying both variants of the gmk snail that geon is ordering I guess lol

[tawdry tree]

Not me and you I don’t think so.

[tawdry tree]

This as well.

[stray tiger]

This is the reddit thread you are likely referring to - https://reddit.com/r/WootingKB/comments/193xfo5/psa_reset_your_board_when_you_install_new/

[stray tiger]

GMK Boneyard/Nines had another set that was the opposite color I think. Let me look

Oh yeah its GMK Sixes

I have GMK Boneyard and Nines but never bought sixes so cant show you those

Oh and looks like they are still in stock - https://mekibo.com/products/gmk-sixes

[gloomy stratus]

that's exactly what i was looking for, thank you

[naive hill]

will the module be fine to gummy o ring mount?

[fluid ravine]

you would need to get clip in stabs in order to gummy oring mount

[glad geyser]

if i tighten down the rear assembly screws down all the way, my spacebar stabs sieze. why could this be? i have to keep that screw in particular loose

using KBD fans Fr4 plate

[untold wigeon]

overtightening maybe, how loose is loose

[glad geyser]

like multiple full rotations

if i were lightly tightening the screw until it stops, i have to do multiple 360s to get it to a usable position

[north mason]

I just got my wooting TODAY, and the factory lube sounds good? is there a different lube proccess compared to last year? 60he

[static tendon]

Just to add onto this @scarlet blaze for visability as well. So it looks like there will be a compatible version down the line

[tawdry tree]

The compatible switch is the Gateron KS-20U. It is already available on Taobao and will be available on AliExpress soon (late January/early February).

👍

[static tendon]

Gotcha that's good to know

[static tendon]

I may be late to this or don't have enough information yet but are the Gateron KS-20U expected to outperform the jade switch in terms of sound and feel?

I did pick up 2 sets of the lekkars along with my module order so I'm trying to keep my options open down the line if I need to pick up more switches to try out

I am not all about sound here but I do strongly prefer less stem wobble

[tawdry tree]

The selling point of the KS-20U is the same as the KS-37Bs; the dual rail design which should reduce stem wobble to create a smoother feel. Sound is subjective and there’s not really a better or worse sound. It shouldn’t be scratchy or rattle if that’s what you mean.

[static tendon]

I guess to help clarify, I typically prefer a louder pop/clack sound so that's the sound I would try aiming for anytime I'm building a new keyboard

[tawdry tree]

The moment they’re on Ali I and I assume others as well will order them and show sound tests here.

[hearty sierra]

what do the ks-20u’s look like

[hearty sierra]

ty

[static tendon]

Gotcha so these switches would be tighter tolerances along with a smoother feel. Makes sense. Overall the functionality seems to be the same regardless of lekkars or the jades or even Gateron KS-20U

[tawdry tree]

I presume the sound to be a bit similar to the Lekkers as it’s an open bottom as well. Lekkers lean more towards clack so it could be a good switch for you. 😉

[tawdry tree]

Yes, but there’s not much information on them yet.

[static tendon]

Nice! I'll have to keep an eye out for those switches to potentially try them out down the line

[tawdry tree]

Functionality of the Lekkers/KS-20s and Raptors are nearly identical, a different sound profile of course. Then the Jades have a shorter travel distance than the bunch, 3.5mm instead of the 4mm.

[static tendon]

Oh that's right. I do prefer a reduced travel distance. That would actually play a huge factor into me purchasing some switches down the line

@tawdry tree what is your current build that you're using? Case, switches, etc

[tawdry tree]

It doesn’t matter that much honestly, it’s hard to notice I think. 😉

[tawdry tree]

Nothing as of right now. Sold my 60HE and currently waiting for module.

🤣

[static tendon]

Eh, I have 2 switches in front of me right now being cherry mx silvers along with Durock linears and it's a night and day difference for me

[tawdry tree]

Oh wow, what’s the travel distance between the two?

[static tendon]

I know these aren't hall effect switches but the 4.0 mm travel on durocks feels too much

I believe cherry mx silvers are 3.4 travel and durock is 4 travel

Durocks feel and sound better but I still prefer reduced travel. Just feels snappier and more natural to me

[tawdry tree]

HID-Labs is developing travel distance limiters for the HE switches. Maybe something for you: https://x.com/hid_labs/status/1744283842100535601?s=46&t=uFrAs-7GGUduYiIB1-Qdbw

It’s like the bumper stopper/limiter on controllers you know?

But for your keyboard instead.

[static tendon]

Oh gotcha, that's pretty neat. I wonder if they would impact the feel and make it more mushy or something

[tawdry tree]

So you could have a travel distance of 0.2mm and an actuation point of 0.1mm. 😂

[static tendon]

Didn't even know something like that could exist

Haha that would be quite the experience

[tawdry tree]

Not sure yet, there’s also little info available on them.

[tawdry tree]

Yeah!

[static tendon]

@tawdry tree do you think hall effect switches will become more of the norm in custom keyboards down the line?

[tawdry tree]

For sure.

For rapid trigger alone.

[static tendon]

Something that hall effect switches require is less flex and a lot of the customs have gasket mounts and other things to help improve a more flexy/bouncy feel for a more comfortable typing experience. I wonder how hall effects will handle those types of custom boards as time passes

I think they will become the norm as well down the line

I'd love to see keycult or some higher end company make a hall effect version of their keyboards

[tawdry tree]

Gasket is fine, HE switches require a constant distance between the switch plate and PCBA that can’t change much. Flex cuts for example can hinder HE performance.

[static tendon]

Hmm I see, so it may be do-able without flex cuts?

[tawdry tree]

Rakka60 😉

[tawdry tree]

Yeah for sure, the 80HE will be gasket mounted.

[static tendon]

I actually was not aware the 80HE would be gasket mounted

[tawdry tree]

Yeah, it’s pretty neat.

[static tendon]

I'm checking out the 80HE right now, I didn't see any mention of gasket mount. Would you happen to know where you found out that information?

[tawdry tree]

In the live stream on Youtube.

[static tendon]

Gotcha, that would explain how I missed that part about the 80HE

Is it supposed to be aluminum or plastic? Or do we still not know either?

[bronze grove]

Plastic or Zinc Alloy options

[tawdry tree]

It’ll be in plastic and zinc alloy

[static tendon]

Ok nice!

[tawdry tree]

There should be more info on it either this month or the next.

[bronze grove]

Also #🌟│wooting80he

[static tendon]

Since we're somewhat on the topic. Has wooting mentioned anything about a 65% layout or is this not something wooting is aiming towards at this time?

[tawdry tree]

Nope, sadly not.

Maybe after the 80HE, who knows.

[static tendon]

Makes sense

[tawdry tree]

But that would be next year I think.

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1195394399706808441

[static tendon]

Just because 60%'s have more case options and are typically more customizable I'd probably stay within 60%'s but I do like the arrow keys

[tawdry tree]

Yeah exactly, I’d like the arrow keys as well.

A 64% could work, it fits inside 60% cases and has arrows but it has an unusual key sizes.

[static tendon]

In the meantime I plan to rebind my lower right alt, windows, Ctrl and Shift keys into arrow keys

[tawdry tree]

So keycap compatibility would be limited.

[tawdry tree]

I have exactly that. 🤣

[static tendon]

Makes sense, kinda like the tofu layout

[tawdry tree]

I don’t use that whole area.

[static tendon]

Haha it's a very effective method. Surprised I don't see people use it more often

[tawdry tree]

Many here do actually, dedicated arrow enjoyers. 😎

[tawdry tree]

That’s 64%

[static tendon]

Oh nice! I think there's ways to just enable it real quickly but a lot of tech reviewers also don't remap the keys this way. At least not from what i've seen

It's been a lifesaver for me using it this way though

[tawdry tree]

Many people also use the right shift.

[tawdry tree]

Same.

[static tendon]

Stepping away for now

[tawdry tree]

Take care!

[robust pawn]

Will wooting 60he be provided better performance firmware in the future

[bronze grove]

Not really the channel to ask this in.
But we're committed to improving all of our keyboards, old and new.

[robust pawn]

My bad thx for ur reply

[glad geyser]

Avoid the KBDFaNs FR4 plate! makes the space bar stabs seize

Fr4:

Steel:

And no i didnt overtoghten it

[late pulsar]

Can’t wait to get my module, throw mag jades and TX stabs on and o-ring mount it into a tofu

[austere creek]

fr4 is way way more flexible than steel... the foam just pushes it up

especially since kbdfans uses flexcuts i beleive

[gleaming crane]

What’re some good screw in/clip in stabilizers for the wooting, I’m currently running the og wooting and the jade switches so LP stabs are what I’m mostly looking for

[austere creek]

well first of all the og wooting cant use magnetic switches. it only uses flatech type b switches for analog sensing

and it doesnt support screw ins either as all is plate mounted

the only keyboards to support jades are our HE line of boards and screw ins are only supported on the 60he+ module

[spare mauve]

and for all 60he which will be shipped out starting next batch right (screw in)?

[austere creek]

that idk im not too deep in product dev rn

[gleaming crane]

Sorry, when I said og I meant the original 60he😅

I should’ve been more specific

[austere creek]

oh well most of the message still applies then

jades will work screw ins wont as your pcb doesnt have support for it

[gleaming crane]

Okay, any recommendations for long pole clip in stabs?

[kind yew]

Like sex.

Finally I completed it

[bronze grove]

[kind yew]

High school student who spends $400 on keyboard LOL

[marble shuttle]

🧐

[kind yew]

Actually, better than

[marble shuttle]

I spent around 700 800 dolar for wooting 🤣 it should be better

[kind yew]

Yo WTF

💀💀

[marble shuttle]

Literally bro deadass

Most of money for it alu case

[wet hazel]

You have a Fjell?

[marble shuttle]

Frog mini

[kind yew]

Geon?

[marble shuttle]

Yeah from geon

They are really good company

[kind yew]

Yes

Someone I know works there

[marble shuttle]

Cool, i wish i knew too🤣

[pale aspen]

best wooting case

did you get sliver?

[marble shuttle]

Yeah bro @pale aspen

+1

[pale aspen]

how many percentage did you pay in duty and vat?

[marble shuttle]

Look dm

[kind yew]

come to korea

[marble shuttle]

I want it , but know i cant iam Just a broke uni student 🤣🤣💀

[kind yew]

[marble shuttle]

Literally all my savings goes to keyboard

Hahaha

[meager fable]

Just the cable for the rest it looks super sick

[kind yew]

ohhhfuckfuckfuckfuck

cable

[tawdry tree]

I believe TX’s APs come in plate mount as well and you don’t need long poles for jades specifically. Normal stabs are fine you just need to make sure they’re all the way up in your keycap by pressing down on the keycap above the stabs. 👍

[lunar sand]

True. Just bought AP plate mounts.

[agile grove]

you dont need them

[untold wigeon]

TX AP long pole stabs

[untold wigeon]

ive done a side by side with long poles and regulars

long poles especially on the sapcebar still feel better than your "fix" but each to their own

[tawdry tree]

No, Minerva didn’t mean plate mounted stabs. I don’t think there’s a long pole of plate mount but maybe I’m mistaken. Either way long poles aren’t necessary.

[tawdry tree]

If the stab stems are in the keycap all the way, there’s no difference. As it sits exactly the same as it would with any other switch. 😊

[untold wigeon]

do you have both?

[tawdry tree]

I do not.

[untold wigeon]

there is still misalignment/wobble if you press the edges of the spacebar with your fix, unless all 70 of my jades are uneven

this goes away when i use the long poles

[tawdry tree]

The switches are at the center of a key so I’m not sure what you mean with wobble. If your experience is better with long poles that’s fine but many use Jades without any issue with normal stabs.

As there’s nothing different really.

[untold wigeon]

if you press the edges of the space bar even with the stems pushed all way the way in there is still wobble/play

ive tried a bunch of different jades in my spacebar slot

the only way i was able to make it feel normal was tx long poles, and im sure my original stabs arent broken too

[tawdry tree]

Wobble/play in the stabilizer? If so it’s probably the stabilizer you’re using. In both instances, long pole or normal the stab stems don’t sit on the PCBA when the switch is not pressed. Only when you bottom out the entire switch the long poles stem hit the PCBA where’s the normal stab stems do not.

[untold wigeon]

its something youre doing, you probably have too much foam

as the other guy said fr4 is way more flexible

many people use the fr4 plate with their wooting with no issue

[tawdry tree]

The cause of the wobble could be a lose or bent stab wire, stab stem tolerances or how it sits in the keycap. This is the same for both.

[untold wigeon]

the stabs i have are just regular tx ap and tx ap long poles

i dunno, im not arguing against you either way what i can say is after doing your fix it definitely made the regular stabs feel much better

[tawdry tree]

All good, if it works for you that’s all that matters.

[glacial wind]

Are you using jades?

wobble isn't that abnormal with jades. Some people will get it, some won't. Just depends on tightness of their keycaps + how hard they push on the sides of space bar in particular

I wouldn't say long pole stabs are required but also saying it's not required isn't true either - it's kind of a 'if you get the issue with your keycaps then you need long pole stabs, if not then you don't'

[stray tiger]

To fix the wobble without buying new stabs, decrease the stab stem height buy using some o-rings

[tawdry tree]

Smart but they have to be thin O rings.

Won’t work with the thicker ones

[stray tiger]

$8 on Amazon and you'll have every oring you need

[halcyon obsidian]

does anyone have a sound of dielectric grease vs krytox 205 on stab wire

[stray tiger]

205 isn't really thick enough for wires

New toy I didn't need but will use.

[halcyon obsidian]

What makes it so smart?

[stray tiger]

No idea honestly

[tawdry tree]

Got that too!

[tawdry tree]

Firmware is pretty neat.

[tribal marsh]

🙏

[tawdry tree]

Maybe check out a Youtube video for a sound test? It depends on the tolerances of your stabs. Staebies get mushy with XHT on the wire because they’re very tight already.

[radiant plover]

What is the thing called when u lube switches and u put it in that holder thing? I'm buying some stuff from aliexpress so might as well get one

[bronze grove]

A lubing station?

[tribal marsh]

uh nuh I paid $60 for UPS Express shipping but Wooting just sent it through regular PostNL? KEKW

huuuuuuuuuuuh

[stray tiger]

I think you're in the wrong channel for shipping questions.

[tribal marsh]

aint a question

[stray tiger]

I think you're in the wrong channel for shipping statements

[tribal marsh]

enlighten me?

[stray tiger]

This channel is for keyboard modding, hence the name keyboard_modding. Shipping or order related questions, statements, concerns, feedback arent for this channel

[tribal marsh]

sure thing I have filled a support request already and I just want it to be visible

[untold wigeon]

Bro just email them, or put it in support. You can even get removed for being a nuisance

[bronze grove]

https://tenor.com/view/ace-attorney-phoenix-wright-objection-capcom-gif-20965907

[halcyon obsidian]

are the tolerances on tx ap stabilizers too tight for dielectric grease?

[bronze grove]

Corrections aside, please email us at [e-mail] for assistance, @tribal marsh

[tribal marsh]

^

[stray tiger]

Not at all, just go lighter than you would normally. A thin coat should be sufficient.

[bronze grove]

It won't be any more visible here. We cannot assist with any order issues via Discord.

[turbid karma]

okay...opinion time. do i order a copper slag salvation to match with gmk copper, or do i order the cheapest slavation i can find on r/mm and have space cable ceracote it copper with an aztec teal splatter?

[stray tiger]

Get a cheap blue salvation and the custom cable

[agile grove]

looks like it has a screen

[spare mauve]

suggestions for very sexy keycaps (ISO - DE)?

[stray tiger]

Going to need more info than that. Sexy ia subjective 🙂

[spare mauve]

not white tho. maybe black / greenish / blue

has to fit black alumaze

[stray tiger]

Anything goes with black honestly. There are 100's of choices. Whats your budget?

[spare mauve]

no limit

okay - maybe i should correct. like max 300

[stray tiger]

https://matrixzj.github.io/docs/gmk-keycaps

[spare mauve]

oof. thats a lot input

[stray tiger]

You asked a very big question hehe

[spare mauve]

when I found some caps that fitted my expectations in looks there was no option for german layout. yes it was ISO but the special characters on the numbers and such didnt fit DE layout somehow

[stray tiger]

You live in Germany? Just go to the GMK factory

[spare mauve]

its a few hundret km away 😉

[stray tiger]

Fair enough

[stray tiger]

Start here - https://candykeys.com/

Great seller and good selection

[polar girder]

Exciting

[stray tiger]

And in Germany

[stray tiger]

Yeah kind of interesting. Wont have to drag out the solder statton hopefully to do small jobs. For example, I have a bad switch on a single board that I think just needs resoldering.

[spare mauve]

thank you! looks like i have to buy "international kits" seperately to fix this special character issue i just mentioned

[stray tiger]

Thats usually the case

[normal schooner]

thats some cuphead artstyle

^

[spare mauve]

looks like most of the caps wont let the LED shine through the caps character. is this true?

[stray tiger]

Yes, it's almost/near impossible to find quality shine-through keycaps in a cherry profile. If you want shine-through, especially in an ISO/DE layout, your choices are now narrowed down to very very few

[spare mauve]

Ah! okay so let me ask again:
do you have suggestions for shine through keycaps in ISO/DE layout?

[median spade]

for those that got the gateron jades does shipping take as long as they say at 10-20 days

from gateron

[stray tiger]

I dont hehe

[spare mauve]

express took like 3-5 days to GER, economy like 9-11 days

[median spade]

of course i find a us store with them after ordering from gateron ffs

[spare mauve]

lets say ill go with the olivia, do you think the keyboards backlight will be bright enough to easily read the characters in the dark?

[stray tiger]

I dont have an issue seeing legends in low-light with normal keycaps but thats not a scientific answer.

[spare mauve]

any chance to share a photo?

[stray tiger]

Well its daylight here so that would be tough. You can find 100's of photos through google though or check the https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1070668460905988106

[polar girder]

Can’t wait for The Thockfather “Best of HE Switches 2024” video at the end of the year

[stray tiger]

That would be a lot of switches to test with the amount coming out lol.

[weary tree]

Maybe cerakeys? No idea if they are iso compatible tho

Mine should arrive this week

[mental salmon]

Hey Guys, I would like to ask you about your experience with drop DCX keycaps, if the legends, colors are good, the durability and sound, also if you have favorite colors among them? Thinking about getting one set

[bitter valve]

I jumped on MV T3RMINAL GMK CYL GB. Hopefully won’t look terrible with gray tofu, but really enjoyed the design.

GB but pre-order, so won’t have to wait for years lol

[stray tiger]

Everything except beige looks great with Gray. Itll look sick.

Plus thats a sick looking set.

[bitter valve]

Tru, got it mainly because we have the same binary wall in the office hahaha

Office sleeper kb

[polar girder]

Life of a YouTube reviewer is tough lol

[stray tiger]

I'll probably end up making like 2 videos and hate it

[polar girder]

Whether you review them or not, I am excited for what HE switches will come this year

Exciting times for a 60HE fan boy

[fluid ravine]

Good day yall

[stray tiger]

Good day sir

https://tenor.com/view/in-said-good-day-willy-wonka-and-the-chocolate-factory-have-a-good-day-bye-leave-now-gif-21443425

[fluid ravine]

GOOD DAY

I HAVE GOTTEN MY CONTACT LENSES FOR ZEH FORST TOIME

[stray tiger]

That movie GIF was probably (100% for sure) way before your time

[fluid ravine]

It really looks like it

[stray tiger]

Funny story, when I was exactly your age I got contacts for the first time. I couldnt leave the eye doctors office until I put them in, took me like 45min. The next day I had to get up before school an hour earlier to put them in and couldnt do it or I would be late. I never wore them again lol

[quiet bay]

lol I could never

fear of having them get stuck in my eye 🗿

[stray tiger]

I just couldnt touch my damn eye lol

[uncut musk]

“back in my day”

[fluid ravine]

Spent 20 mins in the eye doctor reading instructions and signing things

[tawdry tree]

When you accidentally fall asleep with your contacts in and you wake up thinking you magically have 20/20 vision.

[bitter valve]

I don’t even want to try contacts, glasses sounds good enough lol

[fluid ravine]

Spent 2-3 mins learning to taking them in and out

Felt pretty goood ngl

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[stray tiger]

I ended up getting lasik done 15 years later and enjoyed no glasses until I turned 40 and then back to glasses...

[fluid ravine]

Now I hope I don't forget how to do everything the next morning

[fluid ravine]

💀

[uncut musk]

Im so ready to build this board

[fluid ravine]

Imagine being old NO HATE

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/hype-gif-25972342

[stray tiger]

I dont have to imagine lol

[uncut musk]

i wouldn’t take this slander

[fluid ravine]

oh God 😱

[fluid ravine]

Sorry pops and dad

[uncut musk]

me every morning hoping a update will say “Just arrived at the warehouse”

[fluid ravine]

I was born blind

[fluid ravine]

Then +1 day everyday

[tawdry tree]

I saw this: https://youtu.be/BXzn0EmN19E?si=hdP7Y1mWESbG92pT and too scared to ever do it now. 🥲

[uncut musk]

shhh

let me have my copium

[halcyon obsidian]

are you na

[uncut musk]

yeah

[halcyon obsidian]

me too

[stray tiger]

Im not even going to watch that

[halcyon obsidian]

: (

[fluid ravine]

Same

I'm scared now

[uncut musk]

whats yalls favorite keyboard modding yt channel

[tawdry tree]

😂 You’ve done it already and it went well I assume so you don’t need too.

I shouldn’t have either tbh

[stray tiger]

Not specifically modding related by alexotos is a great one

[fluid ravine]

me looking at myself after wearing contacts realizing how ugly I am

[stray tiger]

Different, not ugly.

[uncut musk]

i love putting his vids on before going to sleep

[stray tiger]

Youre used to glasses

[uncut musk]

so calming

I tried contacts once

hated it

stuck to glasses

[harsh dove]

My forecast today

[stray tiger]

Really positive streamer and love what he does for the community. We both follow the same ideaology of doing more with less, don't overspend, expensive doesnt always mean better, etc etc

[uncut musk]

yeah, and he does a lot of cool builds that are fun to watch

[harsh dove]

I watched his Salvation build stream before I bought mine

[fluid ravine]

And he's the reason why I equally love clack as I love thock

[harsh dove]

https://youtu.be/HjWNncXG0ds?si=mwfmq3hzGcCqAgaE

[glad vale]

thoughts? :) i wanna put a silver tofu redux case in a few months

[quiet bay]

what happens when you blink during those surgeries 🤔

[harsh dove]

You’re lost forever

Nah I’m pretty sure your eye is held open and they lubricate it every so often for dryness

[uncut musk]

right, like i feel like a lot of the keyboard youtubers only focus on thock, and use “Thock” for click bait/views

[harsh dove]

I’m sure Tirade can correct me tho

[fluid ravine]

Yep

[harsh dove]

I have a friend who’s a boxing coach and he got lasik done as well

[fluid ravine]

My dad told me that

[stray tiger]

Yup, its held open by a device, you wont be blinking lol

[harsh dove]

Yeah lol

[quiet bay]

oh damn lol

[harsh dove]

Thought so

[quiet bay]

I would be quaking in my boots waiting for the laser while my eyes are just forced open 🗿

[fluid ravine]

HAHA

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/clockwork-orange-eyes-gif-23439382

[stray tiger]

You actually cant see anything. The light they shine in your eye basically blinds you

[fluid ravine]

Great

[stray tiger]

Oh and they give you gas to calm you down

[quiet bay]

even more terrifying 💀

[fluid ravine]

OH HELL

[harsh dove]

Some good ol Nitrous Oxide

Good stuff

[fluid ravine]

AMERICA YOU BETTER CHANGE IT UP

I HAVE A DECADE UNTIL I DO THIS

[harsh dove]

I remember when I got my wisdom teeth done and they gave me nitrous

Good times

[fluid ravine]

Good times

[fluid ravine]

Ig so

[uncut musk]

some yt shorts will be like listen to the thockiest keyboard ever and that shit has so much ping

[fluid ravine]

Imagine some put "Thocciest keyboard you ever heard (Click bait for content)" but then they actually made a thocky keyboard sound test

Double click bait?

[uncut musk]

hmm you might have to make a video

[fluid ravine]

"Thockiest Wooting you ever heard (Clickbait for content)"

[uncut musk]

My wooting will sound

like

something

[fluid ravine]

or "Best lekker switches you ever heard"

[quiet bay]

and then chatter chatter chatter

[bitter valve]

This is terrible, but thanks for sharing. I was asking my gf if she wants to do it, because of all the positive reviews I’ve seen…

[quiet bay]

oh nah

I dont want those things to clip my eyes openw tf

[uncut musk]

“SWITCH TAPE MOD GO BRRRRR”

[fluid ravine]

HAHAH

[still quest]

it’s a pretty high success rate, i know many people that’ve done it and no issues

[fluid ravine]

what is

[still quest]

lasik

[fluid ravine]

ah

[bitter valve]

Yeah, but from the perspective of “do it once and your eyesight will be perfect for ever” doesn’t sound too bad. Sad that reality is so stupid, and this is another example of something that supposed to help, but turned into another business scheme

[fluid ravine]

yes

[quiet bay]

i don't think it's forever tho

[uncut musk]

nope

its not

[bitter valve]

But to touch your eye 20 years later and become fully blind?

[fluid ravine]

as you grow older

your eyes just get worst naturally

[bitter valve]

I don’t think it’s worth it

[fluid ravine]

so you would have to

wear reading glasses and shit

ima still do it

[still quest]

?

it’s a risk, but low risk

[fluid ravine]

i rather get reblinded than being mroe blind by 20x

[bitter valve]

When they make something 100% safe I will consider lol

[fluid ravine]

i hope so

[shell geode]

I might have went overboard with the lube on my Jades when I relubed and taped them

[fluid ravine]

huh?

you bought the jades!?

[shell geode]

I did!

I like them better!

[fluid ravine]

wait you taped them!?

:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

[shell geode]

But after the relube, they are a bit too wet

[gleaming crane]

https://keebsforall.com/products/tx-ap-long-pole-stabilizers?variant=44698510983387&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gclid=CjwKCAiAzJOtBhALEiwAtwj8tk4R_lCCultAF_R2sw5AcGjvlmaaFHKncTT2D4s6m2XfQlVVfofYAxoCT80QAvD_BwE

How are these?

[fluid ravine]

not surprised!

[shell geode]

Gonna have to use them for a bit to break them in

I can tell you I'm not a fan of redoing the entire prcoess again haha

[fluid ravine]

lubing?

[shell geode]

Yeah, relubing and taping the top housing

[fluid ravine]

you taped the jades!?

:0

[shell geode]

I did!

[fluid ravine]

WEOEW

[halcyon obsidian]

you could try cutting a box to the size-ish of ur board so you can press every key at once

[shell geode]

I got a little lube station thing so it was much quicker this time around, under 2 hours for the whole prcoess

[fluid ravine]

how they feel and sound my besto friendo

[shell geode]

Good idea!

[halcyon obsidian]

kinda like a speed breakin and to evenly break them in

[shell geode]

I admit they were better stock on the actuation. They're too wet now. However, that spring ping is gone, so for me it's worth it

Just like Sindria said, I'l need to break them in

[fluid ravine]

@shell geode do you have time

[shell geode]

https://tenor.com/view/hammer-gif-11719688

[shell geode]

Time for?

[fluid ravine]

swapping stem

lekker stem into jades

[shell geode]

Oh!

[fluid ravine]

just one or so

[shell geode]

Sorry I'm at work, I won't be home until night, and probably not for another 10 hours or so

[fluid ravine]

o

oki

i be sleeping by then

but thats fine

[shell geode]

I can post a video and tag!

[fluid ravine]

oki!

[halcyon obsidian]

I unlubed and relubed my jades, but they just sitting the container rn

[fluid ravine]

send me one

:)

jk

[halcyon obsidian]

I mean I don't need all of them lol

[shell geode]

What are you currently using, and why them over the Jades?

[halcyon obsidian]

my alpaca v2s cause I don't have my wooting module yet lol

[fluid ravine]

BET

lmao

[fluid ravine]

what board

[halcyon obsidian]

monsgeek m1

[shell geode]

oh gotcha

[fluid ravine]

ahhhhh

well he finna get a upgrade

performance upgrade 💯

[halcyon obsidian]

I like it, I like the 75% layout

[uncut musk]

i currently am using an epomaker th66, i have tried my hardest to make this board sound good, it still sounds so meh, was my first board i ever did anything too

[shell geode]

Keychron showed off their Q1 HE at CES this past week. They'll be using the Gateron 2.0 HEs

It can be wireless, has a knob, and can be configured through their own web app

[stray tiger]

Yeah it's using the KS-37B switches so not currently compatible with Wooting but it's on the roadmap from what we have been told.

[shell geode]

Even though I find the Q1 body quite limiting for mods, I look forward to see how it feels and sounds

[harsh dove]

Only thing that bothers me about keychron is their latency

[stray tiger]

I've owned the Q1, V1, Q4 and Q7. The typing angle isn't my jam due to the significant height (needed for the battery), but they make good boards.

Full transparency, I did pre-order the Q1 HE back in Nov, so I do plan to provide my thoughts on it

[harsh dove]

Nice

[bitter valve]

Stock q’s sound awesome

[harsh dove]

Lmk if their latency and Bluetooth gets better

[bitter valve]

Will it even fit?

[harsh dove]

Yes

[stray tiger]

I don't think I have a way to test the latency of the wireless and as a gaming board I'm not sure I would ever use it that way. I do plan to see what the interface/software, feel, sound, etc are like

[bitter valve]

Interesting, might try that, gotta justify getting both lol

[harsh dove]

They didn’t have good latency while wired either tbh

Was somewhere around 13-14ms iirc

[shell geode]

April is going to come quick!

[stray tiger]

Oh interesting. This is what my spreadsheet says for polling rate - Keychron Q1 HE 75% Gasket Gateron KS-37B 1k (Wired & 2.4Ghz), 90Hz (Bluetooth) Wireless Support, Knob

[harsh dove]

Oh okay nice

Sounds good on paper

We’ll see then

[bitter valve]

What are the benefits tho? I thought jades are pretty good on wobbling, and I don’t think it affects sound

[harsh dove]

Personally I don’t like stem swapping on any switches

I don’t know how to articulate it properly but I basically like to use switches in their original design and purpose so to speak

And I don’t like the feel of the stem swaps while typing

Usually feel off

And no it doesn’t change sound, stem swapping can just provide a tighter tolerance in some cases

[bitter valve]

Never tried, so don’t have enough experience to say anything, but I understand what you’re trying to say

[halcyon obsidian]

holy pandas

[shell geode]

I feel the same way, I've also never built any frankenswitches, but it sounds fun

[bitter valve]

As long as I can achieve something close to thock I will be happy lol

[harsh dove]

Yeah it’s fun to test

[halcyon obsidian]

I feel like these are good example of making something great from frankenswitching

[bitter valve]

Well, the raptor x lekker at least made sense lol

[shell geode]

Right, I've seen some posts. Lekker stem in Raptor housing?

[bitter valve]

Yeah, eliminates wobbliness

But messes up rgb completely

[shell geode]

Hmm interesting. So the Raptor housing is better than Lekkers, but the Lekker stem is better

[bitter valve]

Yeah, I bet you can find comparison on reddit or youtube pretty easily, but that one made sense

[near loom]

is there any way to fit the wooting into wkl 60% cases

[bitter valve]

https://youtu.be/qyKa1hIXnQQ?si=2LIhSj7Rc0uykg8G

[bitter valve]

Is it a standard 60% case?

[shell geode]

Oh wow, that's an improvement

[near loom]

https://parallel.limited/pages/snake-keyboard wanted to the wooting module in here that would be truely endgame

[stray tiger]

If its a GH60/DZ60 standardized case, it doesnt matter if its WKL or not, you would just not be able to install switches in those positions.

[bitter valve]

This makes me think there’s a custom PCB, so it’s not standard

Also, look where the port is

[spiral canyon]

Also has those indentations, which probably make installing any other 60% PCB impossible

[agile grove]

unless you could somehow cut up the case

but since the port is that low yeah it wont work unless you made your own port hole

is theoretically possible with some heavy modifications

[near loom]

so its not really the wk blockers causing the issue but no standoffs and port being too low

[agile grove]

pretty much

if you had the resources to cut it up and make holes and stuff it could work

but thats a lotta work

and requires a lot of skill

[spiral canyon]

Every case will be compatible if you go to town with dremel on it

[near loom]

if there's a will there's a way, but yeah i dont think i got the machining skills to cut up such a expensive case

[spiral canyon]

Kinda weird they didn't make it 60% "standard" compatible, when it's so close to being so

[bitter valve]

Well, it’s intended as a kb, not just case, am I wrong?

So not too weird

[stray tiger]

Its more than just layout compatibility. In the case of the snake its gasket mount so standoffs arent an issue.

[fierce canyon]

finally someone who GETS IT 👏

[spiral canyon]

Still, if you're marketing to keyboard enthusiasts you could expect they'd want to mod the hell out of the keyboard sooner or later

[bitter valve]

Well, in that case, as you said, everything can be modded lol

[halcyon obsidian]

I wouldn't say that the stem is "better" its just bigger so fits the raptor housing snugger

[near loom]

does snugness make a difference, i canceled my lekkers and got the raptors

[bitter valve]

Less key wobble

[stray tiger]

Some people who stem swap the lekker stem into the raptor housing report it being too snug and causing friction. A few even reported not being able to get the stem inside the housing on a few switches. The tolerances are very tight.

If youre not stem swapping and you're ok with all your RGB colors having a red tint, the raptors due indeed have less stem wobble

[fierce canyon]

ordered jades the other day, might also grab some raptors if i'm still not happy with the wobble. Glad i peeked in here, thank you guys for that info :o

didn't even know the raptors existed.

[halcyon obsidian]

I think jades have less wobble then raptors

[fierce canyon]

i modded some of my lekkers to reduce travel distance but after the mod, i had issues with unintended deactuations partially due to wobble

[fierce canyon]

ayyy nice if so

[halcyon obsidian]

https://reddit.com/r/WootingKB/comments/193xfo5/psa_reset_your_board_when_you_install_new/

[halcyon obsidian]

meant to reply to this lol

not sure if this will help or not

[fierce canyon]

lol you're good. Thankfully i saw that and was also aware of that anyways! but ye ty

[near loom]

anyone got some good sound comparisons between jades and raptors

[halcyon obsidian]

Cam has some I'll send them

[polar girder]

At first mine were a bit snug. Now they’ve smoothed up nicely

Raptors with l45 spring/stem

I’m a fan of them currently after full lube/oil and a month of use.

But wouldn’t necessarily recommend it.

[polar girder]

In response to this. Didn’t load the other responses. Whoops lol

[bitter valve]

So jades are still the best option for now

[halcyon obsidian]

Raptors I think

Jades

[bitter valve]

That sounds way too similar lol

[polar girder]

You can’t go wrong with raptors or Jades IMO

Both have decent factory lube jobs but benefit from hand lube

Jades change the travel distance a little bit, if that matters to you

[bitter valve]

Raptors mess up rgb

[polar girder]

Define “mess up”

Slightly alter? Agree

[bitter valve]

Red hue

[polar girder]

Ruin? Disagree

It’s slight

[bitter valve]

No-no, obv not ruin

[polar girder]

Yeah mess up and ruin are synonyms

[stray tiger]

I'm pretty sure one of my local keyboard group members has a switch actuation machine. Wonder if that would help break in the stem swapped ones

[polar girder]

It changes it

Doesn’t mess it up

[polar girder]

Probz

Took mine a bit but feel great now

[bitter valve]

Red hue looks like a mess up for me🤷🏻‍♂️

[near loom]

hmmm raptos sound more muted and lower pitch than the jades

[tawdry tree]

If you want to use white or a light color light I imagine it’d be red.

[tawdry tree]

open bottoms 🤷‍♂️

[shell geode]

How did you reduce travel?

[halcyon obsidian]

I mean it does mess it up tho

it changes it the hue from what it SHOULD be

[tawdry tree]

Maybe: https://x.com/hid_labs/status/1746785912267350240?s=46&t=uFrAs-7GGUduYiIB1-Qdbw

[cinder jolt]

good tape for tapemod so I won't damage my keyboard?

[tawdry tree]

frog

[bitter valve]

Frogtape

[cinder jolt]

on amazon?

[bitter valve]

Yup

[tawdry tree]

🐸

[shell geode]

I did this for mine

[bitter valve]

Not feeling mushy?

[tawdry tree]

Smart

[cinder jolt]

thank you

[shell geode]

Not that mushy at all, surprisingly

[bitter valve]

Interesting!

[fierce canyon]

i cut up some clothes' pricetags to fit inside the switch, to where they'd fit snugly in. Took a bunch of time and patience but well worth it

also had to cut up the spring 'cause otherwise it'd take like a billion grams force to press

[harsh dove]

Optimum tech has one as well I believe or something similar

[polar girder]

Prob depends on softness of o-ring there

That’s cool tho

[fierce canyon]

planning to redo the mod with my jades when they get here, but with plastic scraps if i can find something viable.

[bitter valve]

Jades are 3.5 already tho

[fierce canyon]

i want <2mm 0w0

got the jades for the wobble mostly tbh

but the 3.5mm will just make the mod easier to do

[bitter valve]

Figured, but threw it there just in case

[fierce canyon]

took me like an hour+ per switch to do with WASD

[halcyon obsidian]

wait what took you an hour+ per switch

[fierce canyon]

the mod i did to reduce travel

hol' up lemme just...

[harsh dove]

@stray tiger

[fierce canyon]

grabbing a video if i can

[harsh dove]

This little guy right here

[stray tiger]

He has something like this https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=120229.0

[fierce canyon]

please ignore the insanity that is my keycaps i swear there's method to the madness

[harsh dove]

Oh wow interesting

[stray tiger]

I think its that exact one - https://dangkeebs.com/products/group-buy-mx-switch-break-in-machine-ktechs-x-keekeen?_pos=20&_sid=2e7369bd0&_ss=r&variant=43860431503581

[tawdry tree]

Someone here used their stem swapped Raptors for about a month and they felt smoother after that time. A month break in time with normal use maybe.

[harsh dove]

I like the idea of this

[tawdry tree]

Controller bumper stoppers in keyboards. Never thought I’d see that day.

[fierce canyon]

it's genuinely real good

[halcyon obsidian]

700 actuations a minute is wild

[fierce canyon]

i did similar mods even before getting a wooting... to. much less success

[halcyon obsidian]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/c7v8ju/psa_how_to_break_in_your_switches_efficiently_10k/

this is slower but easier to diy

[tawdry tree]

Yeah of course, HID-Labs did that as well, not sure if they’re selling the stoppers yet though. I’d want to try it out as well but I don’t think for my movement keys tbh. 😅

[fierce canyon]

i did it exclusively for my movement keys lol. do you have a link/source/etc though? that sounds interesting if i'm ever lazy in the future.

if it's affordable and good and, exists, might be a good option for future mods.

i'd like to make my 60he into effectively a low profile board. xD

[stray tiger]

Just buy a low profile HE board and be done with it

[fierce canyon]

do those even exist? o.O

looked for low profile HE switches before and couldn't find anything

[stray tiger]

They do as do the switches.

[fierce canyon]

Got a link? I can't find anything online

[stray tiger]

https://zenaim.com/products/zenaim-keyboard

1-1.8mm travel distance

[fierce canyon]

ahh, japanese. explains why i couldn't find anything on it. I'll look into that, thanks!

[stray tiger]

$600 off Ebay if you want them today

[bitter valve]

Is the dude in the picture tiny or is the keyboard huge lol

[fierce canyon]

though on second thought i'm also not about to drop a bunch of money on a keyboard that's likely not quite as good as a wooting, 'specially when that 80HE design (the one with the arrow keys shifted to the right) speaks to my soul

[quiet bay]

wth

when it looks that plain??

[fierce canyon]

jeez yeah i'd also much rather mod some switches than spend several hundred extra dollars on something i don't know is at least as good as a wooting :X

[stray tiger]

I didnt say it was smart, just that what you are looking for already exists. Time is money and for some people spending the money is easier.

[fierce canyon]

But! Awesome to know at least SOMETHING exists, so maybe i can have my dream of wooting-compatible low profile switches someday

yeah nah that's valid

i'm just not rich enough for that lol

[tawdry tree]

https://x.com/hid_labs/status/1746785912267350240?s=46&t=uFrAs-7GGUduYiIB1-Qdbw

[fierce canyon]

ohohooooh, that looks incredibly useful. Saving THAT for later, thanks!

[stray tiger]

Thats all they are? I've got some of those already

Asusming they are small nylon washers/spacers (which they appear to be)

[fierce canyon]

Seems so, but made to fit into a lekker switch?

[stray tiger]

Well that would just be finding the right inner diameter and OD.

I've got hundreds of these in different sizes.

[fierce canyon]

i mean you're right, but, god i haven't been able to find anything to fit right

[stray tiger]

Yeah to be fair, I havent tried any of mine either, so it might be something I dont have.

[fierce canyon]

yeah if someone knew and shared the right sizes, i'd immediately love them forever, heh

[stray tiger]

All you need is a caliper

[tawdry tree]

Thing is, I don’t yet understand how they stay seated in the switch itself. The bottom housing doesn’t sit directly on top of the PCBA so if a washer is too thin it can slip out. Maybe they’re meant for the Jade switches or there’s something else that holds them in place.

Also getting them in the switches and then in the switch plate is a pain if they’re a bit lose. They’d fall out the moment you try to place the switch. 🤣

[fierce canyon]

honestly i should just get one at this point... there's been multiple different times i've needed one

[stray tiger]

Good question

[fierce canyon]

oh shi- wow okay i assumed those were bigger

they sit UNDER THE STEM's MAGNET???

nevermind lol i'll just get normal washers

[stray tiger]

I had a really nice one and the LCD cracked when I dropped it. Now I just have a cheap one. You just reminded me I should look for a new one

[fierce canyon]

Lol nice

[halcyon obsidian]

is it possible to make post in a case like the tofu and using an o-ring to gummy mount it, to make it gasket mounted?

or would that also require drilling the pcb?

[tawdry tree]

mitutoyo calipers are fantastic, they last a lifetime if you don’t use them as a hammer or drop them.

[stray tiger]

And I dropped mine

[tawdry tree]

Gummy is sort of a makeshift gasket. I’m not sure what you mean with post though.

[tawdry tree]

Anything measuring, dropping is catastrophic. 🤣

[stray tiger]

They landed just right and the screen cracked. Probably still measure great

[fierce canyon]

checks online
ahah, nah. Don't doubt their quality but i don't need something super fancy (and expensive lol). Within a 20th of an inch accuracy, and not dying randomly, is about all i need i think

i can just grab something cheap

[stray tiger]

Yep Ive got like a $20 one now

[tawdry tree]

You have different ratings on how precise they are. The more precise, the more expensive. But they are worth every penny IMO.

[fierce canyon]

oh whoops i meant to say millimeter

20th of a millimeter

my bad lol

though even that's slightly more precise than i need

either way yeh, just different use cases for different needs is all.

[halcyon obsidian]

doesn't the bakeneko have little punches on the edges of the pcb, and then little post on the case to actually make it gasket mounted

but like just putting the o-ring around like a wooting pcb is just friction mounting because no post and no holes

[fluid ravine]

Yes traditional gummy mounted boards like the bakeneko has posts inside of the case around the edges. The pcb has half circle cutouts (the punches you're talking abt) is for the gummy oring to have space and sit on the post of the case. Depending on the hardness (#a) it will determine on how bouncy the board will be.

bouncy bouncy ooo im having a good time- Old friend from elementary

[tawdry tree]

I would like this with the Jade switch as you could then easily remove the switch(es) with the travel limiter for other ones to type on. Or just the swapping the entire switch plate for another with different switches without all the stoppers falling out. 🤣

[fierce canyon]

(oh hey by the way- just very rough eyeballing with a ruler. inner diameter needed for a washer looks like about 5mm, and outer looks like 9mm if you wanna squeeze against the rails at the side? You'll 100% need to cut it up regardless though. I'ma order some cheap washers, trim them a bit as needed and test my luck.)

[halcyon obsidian]

me when my module comes in

[fluid ravine]

HAHHA

💀

@lethal dove drilled his pcb to perform this

[halcyon obsidian]

wait did bro actually

[fluid ravine]

dont do it, you will risk drilling a trace of the pcb

yues

[halcyon obsidian]

did it work

[fluid ravine]

he had to sacrifice some few LEDS iirc

yeap

[tawdry tree]

Good luck man but are you sure about those measurements? 9mm seems a bit big or am I tripping?

[fluid ravine]

it worked

lemme find the thread

[halcyon obsidian]

wait thats awesome

[fluid ravine]

i will link it

[fierce canyon]

from one side of the inside of switch to the other, if that's not clear

not like, the thickness of the ring

[fluid ravine]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1169726936805806171

[tawdry tree]

Oh, alright.

[tawdry tree]

Bottom left. 🤣

[devout mesa]

anyone know a good budget case for the wooting 60he?

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/community-ken-jeong-ben-chang-cant-see-small-gif-5154350

[fluid ravine]

i blind as shit

holdup

OH HAHA

[fierce canyon]

problem is that the top side is suuper narrow, so i'm gonna have to cut like a third of the washer out

[tawdry tree]

2 holes 🤣

[fluid ravine]

lel

[tawdry tree]

Yes, the stock 60HE case. Free!

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[tawdry tree]

It’s interesting though, but he only uses the switch pad now? not the foam?

[halcyon obsidian]

thats so awesome

[fluid ravine]

im sorry?

like when mounting?

[tawdry tree]

Yes

[fluid ravine]

ah

im not sure myself

he doesnt have to

[tawdry tree]

The pad sits on the posts right?

[fluid ravine]

but you probably can

[devout mesa]

i mean a alluminium case ?

[fluid ravine]

maybe

depending on how far the foam compress

if it compress enough then the oring can sit on it

but if not then just take it out and use it as is

but i honestly dont think he needs it

[tawdry tree]

Isee

[fluid ravine]

he has alu plate and a custom case atm i think

i havent caught up to date

[tawdry tree]

Poseidon is not that expensive afaik

[fluid ravine]

@tawdry tree he has the plate foam

so yes it does work

[tawdry tree]

Oh damn

That’s bouncy af probably

[fluid ravine]

List of mods so far:
-custom cnc bakeneko case in unikorn style
-modified 60HE pcb with standoff cutouts for gummy o-ring mount
-custom aluminum plate, plate foam currently still installed
-50A o-ring
-switches lubed and filmed (krytox 205g0 and TX 0.150mm films)
-stabs lubed with 205g0
-keycaps: GMK Striker R2

[tawdry tree]

Oh no nvm

It sits directly on the O ring

[fluid ravine]

yeah

thats how it works

[tawdry tree]

Did he say if it was worth it?

[fluid ravine]

uh

lemme check

i just know its really risky but gimme a momento

[tawdry tree]

Yeah it is 🤣🤣

Mad lad

[fluid ravine]

fr

respect

ima just stick to my friction mount with my polyfill

still getting that bounce

aint risky my wooting to do that

[devout mesa]

are the jades switches not as fast as the lekker switch? sorry im new to this

[tawdry tree]

Jades are as fast, they just have a shorter travel distance than the Lekkers.

3.5mm for the Jades compared to 4mm for the Lekkers.

Jades are not yet fully supported in Wootility though but they are in Wootility Beta.

[fluid ravine]

oh so thats what they meant

i was getting confused with one or the other

so magnet is equally as strong but the distance to bottoming out is .5mm shorter?

[tawdry tree]

Yes.

So you can use them in the current Wootility but you could only set your actuation point to 3.5 and not 4.

and DKS wouldn’t work.

But the Beta fixes that.

[fluid ravine]

dks?

[polar girder]

DKS

dynamic key stroke

[remote cove]

So i ordered the wooting 60he+ module with the wooting alumaze case, the gateron jade switches and the traitorkeys eternity keycpas, looking for as thocky keyboard as i can get

anything else i should buy?

or do something special while assembling it? i was thinking about burger mount or electric tape mod?

[normal schooner]

do you even mod-tap?

[stray tiger]

Start there and see how you like it. You might be good just like that honestly

[willow bronze]

jades just arrived, and my module label created today. everything is going smoothly

[remote cove]

u think i should go with electric tape mod or burger mount?

or neither of em?

[stray tiger]

Neither. Try it as it is

[remote cove]

hmm alright, i've seen on some vids that burger mount and tape with the foam in the bottom helps the thock on wooting

but i might try it witout it now haha

[polar girder]

When I get module I’m going to try tape both sides of PCB

With that soft medical paper tape stuff

[remote cove]

i havent heard ppl use the medical tape, only heard of electric and paint tape

sounds interesting

[fluid ravine]

yes

my arrow keys

? alt code ctrl

[fluid ravine]

indeed im a noob

[harsh dove]

Moleskin tape FTW 🙌🏽

And also, less is more when modding

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-dwight-the-general-manfredi-sylvester-stallone-tulsa-king-s1e6-gif-27284894

[remote cove]

but does tape mod and burger mount help the thock at all or not rlly?

[fluid ravine]

yep

[devout mesa]

when i get them and install them, do i need to do something special or will they work?

[remote cove]

pretty sure u dont, all u gotta do is make sure ur stabilizers are fully inside of the keycaps

so u dont get the wobbly feel

[loud zephyr]

Forget Jades, lubing, taping... grippy WASD is the performance upgrade u need. No more slipping over just like the first and last time you tried ice skating

white pc plate though

[polar girder]

lol that’s sick

Yeah I had to get the black PC Plate in addition to the module can’t stand the white plate

[loud zephyr]

the white pc plate will test the OCD you may not realized you had lol, ngl it's kinda tilting but great for rgb lovers

[harsh dove]

I’m still waiting on my black pc plate

I’m just a loser with two white plates

[loud zephyr]

oh yea didn't u buy a black plate and recieved a white one? that's some wicked trolling, Wooting

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-need-you-to-remind-me-sam-owen-the-oval-the-hornets-nest-s3e16-gif-25018162

[loud zephyr]

[harsh dove]

[halcyon obsidian]

Weird question but any particular reason you want a black one?

[fluid ravine]

🌟 aesthetics 🌟

[polar girder]

Yeah black case

[halcyon obsidian]

I mean for the most part you don’t see it I just figured it muted rgb

[remote cove]

wait what, can u choose the color of the 60he+ module plate color? the only thing i could choose bout the module was the layout

[normal schooner]

true you can only buy a black plate seperatly

[remote cove]

ohh so the white one comes originally? thats perfect cuz thats what i need

[normal schooner]

ya

[harsh dove]

Yeah just aesthetics and I don’t use RGB

The rumor is the black plate adds more thock /s

[lunar sand]

A… darker sound right ?

[river shore]

w the wooting - anyone got any alternatives in terms of foam besides the slim layer that comes w the tofu redux? i cant find the foam from the og wooting case 🤣

[loud zephyr]

cereal is a good alternative

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984799440072220692/1138233351849914538/Screenshot_2023-08-08_081056.png?ex=65b822ea&is=65a5adea&hm=3f68be3f4ba1ad2d88c284569dd679e47fb59bdf169d5ac8487ae984ff359f38&

[river shore]

i respect that

[bitter valve]

Ouch

[loud zephyr]

this is the best mod for spacebars though

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/N8uFOYVK43g

[glass jay]

im sorry but W H A T

[crystal dock]

Hey guys, I just got my wooting today and I just wanted to look for recommendations for nice keycaps

[fluid ravine]

where you live

[crystal dock]

Ireland

[fluid ravine]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

these aare the list of vendors in your region

[crystal dock]

It’s a rough place to get any pc related things lmao

[fluid ravine]

you can go into the web and find whaat you like

ah i see

[crystal dock]

Okay, Tyty

[fluid ravine]

np

[quiet bay]

new improved and better sounding lekkers when 🙏

[agile grove]

soon™️

[normal schooner]

very soon

actually I have no idea

[agile grove]

I would imagine near 80he drop

unless they want to bless us

[normal schooner]

thats your speculation

[agile grove]

indeed

[tawdry tree]

Like Kalash said; make sure your stab stems are all the way up in the keycap by pressing down on the keycap right above the stab. For Wootility, I’d advise to use the Beta so you don’t encounter any of the problems with the non beta + jades. 👍

[harsh dove]

I bet this taste better than using a normal bowl because of the Wooting Case

Just refer to this anytime someone has a question about Jades and Firmware.

@devout mesa

[kind yew]

https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-magic-jade-switch

Hmm...

[stray tiger]

Yes, odd. I think its a switch

[fluid ravine]

WOAH REALLY>?!?!?!?

[silver pecan]

Bro who tf lied and said u don’t need long pole stabs for jades

I just got some tx ap plate mount non long pole stabs and they don’t work properly

Ppl lying for no reason bruh

[polar girder]

Really what lol

[tame vessel]

I dunno I'm using jades atm with the normal stabs and haven't had issues. I did do the bandaid mod.

[polar girder]

Just cuz others have different experience than you, doesn’t mean they’re lying

[silver pecan]

Yeah I was wrong

I screwed the 5 screws for the pcb in really hard

And it works bette

My fault my fault

[fluid ravine]

lmao

[silver pecan]

Ngl they sound insane

[fluid ravine]

wait 5 screws?

[silver pecan]

Fuck durocks please don’t suggest those to noone

Yeah

[tame vessel]

I dig the jades, though I found that my phone mic can't really pick up the difference

[silver pecan]

The 5 screws that screw on to the pcb

I have a burger mount

So it’s kinda like higher

The pcb ^

[tame vessel]

Also now I'm trying to figure out whether the poron or silicon sounds better under the PC plate

[fluid ravine]

the pcb..?

are you talking abt the module into the case?

[bitter valve]

Layer between pcb and plate

[bitter valve]

Poron for thok I’d assume

[tame vessel]

Yeah, that's where I'm leaning. The silicon kinda mutes it oddly? I dunno. Lemme put up some typing from my phone

[fluid ravine]

not taalking to you (sorry not trying to be rude, idk how to word that)

[fluid ravine]

Yes, silicone gives a muted experience by lowering the mid frequencies

[tame vessel]

1. silicon 2) poron

[fluid ravine]

jades?

cus i honeslty dont hear the difference

they sound the same to me

[tame vessel]

Yeah, Jades

[fluid ravine]

technically, it does mute more of the higher pitch frequencies

[fluid ravine]

They sound good but again the plate dampening materiaals between the silicone and poron in your sound test sounds the same

besides that i like your build

sounds good

[stray tiger]

Try with nothing I between

[tame vessel]

Yeah, I keep listening to them to try and compare but it's too similar.. I think it may be my Pixel 6's mic that's the issue? That or I'm just coping a bit 😛

[bitter valve]

Well, silicone doesn’t mute, rather balances out

[tame vessel]

Thanks!

[fluid ravine]

this is for poron