#🔧│keyboard_modding
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damn wtf
yo what screwdriver do i need to unscrew the back of the pcb
i tried everything i have
but i didnt have the right one lmao
I used a flathead screwdriver that fit
really wtf
im pre sure i tried a flathead
nothing would work
u sure ur not tightening it instead of loosening it?
aint no way i dont got a phillips head
nah, i need to get my hands on the HD800s then i can say i have enough money
would this work
idfk
no way u dont have a screwdriver at home
i have no clue on screw sizes
i have like 20
none of them worked
that seems too big
it works
could probably just order new ones
u can wiggle it around
u unscrewing left ye 🤨
i have a whole ass box with m2 screws
im not doing it rn lmao
u dont have the weight or the plate
yeah ik
then why
im not unscrewing it rn
but when i tried
it wouldnt unscrew
so i wanna make sure beforehand
YOU SURE UR UNSCREWING IT LEFT?
these should be PH1 screws
YES
there's no wayyyy u ccan't unscrew a single one
hey pochizo what did u think of the spontaneous stream?
@quiet bay i think u and me need to have a "how to use a screwdriver" class
i was trying but it was too hard i aint wanna break it

what do you have to lose anyway 
kinda hard to unscrew something with a screwdriver that doesnt fit no?
ye im just fucking around dw
real men use their fingers to unscrew
im still malding abt fedex
my time to mod my keyboard
no tools needed
what happened w fedex
I think it's unique because no other company would ever do this 🤣
they are not allowing my plate to pass customs for some reason

real
by 2030 we will be living on the moon
By 2030 USA won’t even have free health
Care
LMFAO
Guess I gotta buy all plates and make a video
53 what

While I’m over here paying $17 for a PC plate
And yes I know it’s CAD but still
That’s ridiculous
This includes expedited shipping
$53 sounds like a scam
shipping is $23
yeah i didnt get it
ended up getting the weight bar anbd plate from kdb
it was 90 cad lmao
i will soon have all the plates, so i beat u to that
but ive been tryna get the brass weight
so i got the plate bc its like barely any more
But you don’t make videos
90 cad before the customs fees and shit pops in once it arrives in your country

canada is fucked
Fr
ye but im cooler than u
That’s wild
Cooler like temperature?
Where you live
It’s pretty cold here
brooo i forgot about that customs bullshit
why does that even exist man
always dhl too
here its fedex
i literally got sent a free plate by kbdfans didnt pay 1 cent and now at customs they wouldn't let it pass through yesterday
they treat it like i get fucking bombs or something
Because your money would go out of country otherwise
Is it normal for Space bar to wobble a little?
do you have the video?
hahaha
Keyboard: Wooting 60 HE
Case: KBDfans TOFU 60 Redux w/brass weight
Plate: KBDfans FR4 plate
Switches: Gateron Magnetic Jade switch
Other mods:
lubed stabilizers
3 layers of tape mod
burger mount
Wooting stock case foam inside
i have the same build pre much except for the brass bar
do u guys think thats why his sounds like crunchier
theres no way it makes that much difference right?
and whats the main difference with the fr4 plate and carbomn
cause he has the fr4
like does it make it more clacky/thocky, and is it the opposite with carbon fiber?
idk how it is with the jades but with the lekkers the fr4 makes it a bit clackier and the carbon makes it deeper
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such a curse switch lol
cf usually force clack on every switch
wait really?
fuckkk
already ordered it
pc?
i got cf
also w jades, does the stock foam make it deeper?
i see a lot of ppl taking it off
yeah
i dont have jade on hand yet
just pray
kididng, you can thock just fine but it might be harsh/a bit loud thock
this is made by gateron of all people
not cherry
like holy shit
yes bro
they have like 3 good switches
nah they're all good honestly
goatee?
just need a lot of work
i emailed kdbfans to exchange the plate
do u guys think theyll do it?
are you telling me right now that cherry my brown and blues are good switches?
??
they will but dont
also stem wobble is fine, it’s the housing wobble that gets ya
of course they're good switches haha
i usually just buy off who L+F and broken in lol
people love to hate browns as a joke
but not many people have actually tried nice browns
cherry browns?
those are dogshit i had them
cherry springs are complete dogshit though
all cherry switches are dogshit
but they've changed them now so maybe they're better, doesn't matter though just spring swap
as a joke? are you fucking serious
its probably one of the worst tacticles known to man kind
fair enough
nixes are quite nice when spring swapped
nixies are just cherry blacks with extra steps
if you want to compare your sound the first question here should be if you also have it on a wooden table
Yes
At first it drove me nuts.. but it’s nice to rest my feet on now to be honest!
Lol fair, if it works it works
anyone know what switches are compatible with the wooting if i were to swap them?
KS-20s, KS-20Us, Gateron Jade Switches and Raptor HE Switches.
and Lekker Switches of course.
Jades are KS20T
Doc
aint no way
u got the whole ass instructions and shit
ofc
whats next
what a fucking nerd
😂😂😂
blueprints andy
the naming tho
I think gateron actually doesn’t know the names of their own switches anymore
should i switch tape mod and lube the L60's or get the jades?
Get jades
Jades too good makes the stock wooting sound good
Even with mods the l60s just don't sound good
time is more important than money
you will never get the 5 hours you spend back on those pieces of shit
but the $70 you spend on the jades you get back
pretty big difference
If we put min wage in the pic it cost more for labor
And for jades u don’t even need to live them bc it’s properly lubed
its a lost cause tbh
it is a lost cause
tho wooting did not design these switches
it is gaterons fault
meanwhile i got the stock wooting with jade switches
and it already sounds better than most ppls custom wootings
they spend $400+ modding lol
i spent close to 1k on 2 wootings and if i used the L60 and L45s both would be crushed sound wise by that
thats wild
jades are a cheat code
i mean sure this is still a big upgrade vs stock
but fucking hell
it sounds so bad
ud think just a switch change to jades wont make the stock sound better
it sounds like an entire new keeb
it just goes to show you everything in a keyboard can make a huge difference
bro
not drastic tho
well thats what people discovered with Drop's Holy Panda X's when being replaced with their old ones or something like a Polar Panda on the Sense75 it would completely change the acoustics
im waiting for my orange 2.0s
we dont have any other standard
the fact that lekkers are shit doesn’t mean the next best thing is great
i love my hpx
^
yes it does
they feel and sound good
no it doesnt
yes it does
rip raptors he and orange ks20s
the Jades in a tofu just make it sound like an actual normal tray mounted tofu
great is not normal
the lekkers in a tofu make it sound worse than a razer keyboard
are you trolling right now
i can't tell
they sound like normal non HE switches, not like great switches
blud this is a gaming keyboard the fact that it can even get anywhere close to a custom is wild
thats true
with the lekkers its very far off
that’s why I say; the fact that lekkers are so trash doesn’t make the next best thing great
Jades are objectively good
good performance switch tho
they sound far better than lakkers I agree with that.
But compared to other switches I’d say they sound normal
not crazy and not bad at all
thats all i wanted
how does it feel?
better than the avg switch but not at its pricepoint tbh
long pole bang or not?
it is extremely overpriced yeah
they are only doing this because they can
there is no competitor to this switch
55 usd not a bad price for 70 switches
all he switches are overpriced af
except for when you add VAT then its 70 for me and thats double the raptors
the lekkers with the module are pretty fairly priced imo
i wonder in the future, if they could decrease magnet to make jade has 4.0 travel distance
i dont really care for the extra .5 tbh
i'm kinda happy it's 3.5
some people just like full travel switch
i never use DKS tho
for me, i am fine
for what lekkers are? really?
also, full travel kinda foolproof end user
its a full travel switch technically
stab-wise
there is a minimum cost for materials and shit
yes they sound shit but they perform really fucking good
i know i use wrong term for he lol
ofc
some people just like conventional 4.0mm travel distance
let me rephrase
well they might or might not, i don't really care
I am tired of this shit ass switch
its a rapid trigger switch anyway
my Jades have cleared china customs and are on their fucking way
Nice
that's all that matters
the ppl that buy lekker dont care about that
W
dont worry this year gonna be wild
Yes
true
mine got to be in 3 days
Year of the HE dragon
i'm not gonna spend close to 1k on keyboard that sound like this
i got them with aliexpress and free shipping so im surprised they move faster than $50 Fedex shipping
i cant wait for my holy60
ali goat
ye tell me how it is
i got mine from gatteron direct
i'm actually curious
if it actually sounds good with the jades, I wouldn't mind an updated board on my desk
its the one keeb i wont care for sound
bc cool holes
for me it has to sound good and look good
March tho
i dropped plan for holy because why tf they dont ship case separately first
tho mostly towards sound
they do ship the case separately
kbdfans told me thry will ship case only together with
but its still for march
prebuolt
i mean, i asked them
everything is ready
just need to ship same time with prebuilt
dont know why

Case production is done
cuz if you got both ofc they ship together
case only was my plan
just wait till march lol
its not that far off
its a GB
i mean at that time
i probably use Tiger lite with Venom TKL already
wooting and rakka is just temporary
i wonder how the bottom case foam would make the holy60 sound
it would hang and ugly i assume
its the same foam as the tofu, which means it does nothing as its very thin
Holy60 Case sounds good if you play loud music
and u put on iems
It looks great
that's why i have a $2000 audio setup
so that i can hide my $500 keyboard that i bought for sound
Imagine buying a case with that many holes and putting foam inside to hide the internals anyway 😄
you are not gonna see them anyways
u rite i shouldnt put foam
but arent u curious about the sound profile
That goes for basically any alu case with a design 😄
its extremely thin
foam is there to help me cope @untold wigeon
plate foam
i'll tell u stories and distract u as a coping mechanism if you want
we both have something in common
plate foam with soft plate (3rd party)
i should make a custom silicone dampener for it
what if i get a custom cut pp plate
the plate foam barely does anything with the pc plate in the stock plastic case
stop shortening it to pp
i always think of something else
polypropylene
i know
its such a long word tho
or that
no fun @untold wigeon but the pp plate should only cost me 30 to make thankfully
i should buy a holy60 so i have all 4 wooting cases on my desk fr
holy60 looks cool so i agree
i will still main the tofu
get it with a CF plate kekw
brass plate
whether they give it or not well that depends
rip
i gave them a new invoice that kbd sent me
this is what happens when fedex lets employees that are on probation deal with this
it decrease the chance or flex
i meant sound wise
also you mean pc plate that you buy extra?
i see, we were talking about different poinnt
i'm sure the silicone pad would work good with the raptors
clack clack clack
but with the lekkers it makes them even springier
didn't think that was possible
i thought i was trolled when I put it in
in the stock case tho no matter what, the steel plate is better than pc
lekker is cursed, i never heard of the switch that could make CF not to clack
Please adjust your volume until hearing some background noise.
Mounting : O-ring
Switch : Lekker
Spring : OG
Plate : Steel
Keycap : Pudding Keycap
Dampening : Tape mod, Poron Plate Foam
Cable : CableMod
Artisan : -
this is wooting, i gave to my friend
ignore shtty keycap he wanted tho
he can never leave pudding keycap
imo, at that time i consider acrylic case give better sound profile than alu
What pad is that?
A cat?
A three eyed cat
with keycaps
it looks suck
iskc
sick
Wot u mean trolling, stock Wooting has character. By no means perfect but at least it's instantly recognizable. Six more weeks and Jade's will be yesterdays news. Sorry(not sorry) but that's how it is and that's how it goes
Build Spec:
Wooting 60HE Keyboard
- Steel plate (stock)
- Poron foam 4mm (mid-plate)
- EPDM foam (bottom)
Gateron x Lekker Linear Switch
- Stock (60cN springs)
Wooting Plate-mounted Stabilizers
- Stock
Double-shot Backlit PBT Keycaps
- PBT
- OEM profile
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what keycaps would be nice with a white tofu 60he case?
oh ill use this thanks
try BOW or DCX Hyperfuse
stuff like that
bow looks nice
a lot of stuff works with white
question (might sound stupid)
so i know there are keycaps that are like solid, as in the the rgb lights dont shine trough the letter symbol on the keycap, what keycaps should i look for to have like a see-trough letter so that the rgb can shine trough it
legit thought of no other way to formulate this question
RGB caps are pretty cheap and shit most of them, just keep your stock ones
they are probably the best RGB keycaps you can get
@harsh dove is rich, get him to buy you all gmk sets
dear @harsh dove please buy me a gmk keycap set ty ❤️
OEM or Cherry are the most two common profiles.
We sell OEM except for the Take Control set, which is Cherry
take control looks nice though
well for the gmk keycap sets I browsed the cherry and oem profile section, only found two that i liked x)
What keycaps should I get for a black Todo 60he
Anything good on Amazon cuz I got $100 credit?
i got pbtfans wob, you could also try Drop's DCX line
most gmk sets are above 100
Anything good on Amazon or are they all clones
I'm just Tryna use my credit
i would not go on amazon for keycaps
Aight
Drop has some GMK sets which are legit
they also have MT3 keycaps which are taller and stuff
and their DCX lineup which is ABS and close to GMK but cheaper
pbtfans is the convo too and if you are in the eu there are retailers that carry it
will a third party coiled cable affect the 60he’s performance?
i want a white one but wooting dont sell one
We're working on one!
But to answer your question better - It depends.
a full black would be nice too
Most cables due to the length of the coil can have issues if you combine Tachyon Mode with a high LED brightness (typically above 70%)
Issues include random typing and other fun glitches.
but thats awesome! any idea how long i would have to wait for that
Honestly not sure. I'd say a couple of months at least?
Are these Legit keycaps off drop
👍👍
many refer to their DCX line as GMK clones but they aren't
Should I get those they look pretty nice
$10 discount for sign up🤑
if not get the TKL or 1800 set
im using drop latte
whats a 1800 kit?
they sound nice.. but I would assume mt3 would sound deeper and such seeing how the caps are taller
thats pretty chill
i might grab these for my tofu60he too
1800 is an unusual layout close to tkl
Those are very nice
I have the bronze redux case.. I think they look cute together
mind sending pic?
this is 1800
Sent em for ya
I was going for eathy tones as most of my set up is browns and such
Question, is the stock wooting foam or the foam that the tofu60 redux better for a gummy mount?
I have been using the foam which came with my redux and it has worked flawless
I am running the gummy o ring mount
Oo
30a or 50a
I kind of figured since the included foam is thin but fills the inside of the board perfectly
yeah, its cut out very nicely.
do gummy o rings need to be bought separately or do they come with the redux or module?
Separate
The only problem you can run into is that the USB C end may not be long enough, you will just have to adjust the port on your redux
can i get them on amazon
Not sure, maybe.
ill have a look
@thorny isle did u unironically choose that name
this is my second account and i didnt know what to put for my name so i just wrote that and havnt changed it 😭
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Ahhh thank you
i think DCX is better than GMK actually
much cheaper prices and the ABS they use is much more durable than gmk which allow them to not shine
It's drop tho
i dont think "allows them not to shine" is true with any keycap
and better i doubt because legends on GMK are still better
Horrible
Most recently they made a new profile with entirely broken and unusable ISO enters
And their excuse was "ISO is a personal choice"
Instead of admitting a mistake
i dont think horrible is the right word for this
MT3 is very good and so is DCX
considering what DCX is trying to do its pretty fucking good
They are a horrible vendor tho
i ordered from them a few times and they were fine just the wait times were a bit crazy
this is a real issue but tbh i will never in my life buy ISO, so this is kinda not my problem
Shows how they act tho
it does for sure
Not the first time they done that shit
Countless times where they had an issue and just give you a gift card instead
what are the best switches for 60he?
Jades or Raptors it seems
Are Jades also better in terms of performance? or is that purely based on how they sound?
No such thing as a better performing switch.
It's all about feel and personal preference.
Thank you, these kind of things are new to me so I was curious
i read that because the jades bottom out faster it changes something
Switches with tighter tolerances with the same performance are often called “the better switch”.
Sure. But that's still a question of how they feel - It doesn't make you inherently better at the game.
I wholly agree that a smooth switch is preferable. But it doesn't improve how I play directly.
Doesn’t make you better at the game but I’d still call them better switches.
where can I get o-rings in europe/germany? I'm too stupid to find sth. thx
Is 7U wire layout a long pole?
long pole stabs doesn’t mean the 7U wire
it means the stem of the stabs is long
You have the 60HE+ Module or the 60HE?
will get the module, but use clip-in
For mounting or under the keycaps?
mounting, sorry. tofu redux
I would like you try DCX, MT3 is nice, a little bit higher than other profiles, but I liked it. Anyway I will improve the sound of the keyboard first and over time I might change the Akko keycaps I have in the 60HE
I used these
Wooting has a official guide for these which helped a lot
They work very well
MT3 thock
i mean for the whole pcb
like
https://graveshift.com/products/graveshift-s-o-rings
S for small and more importantly... Screw in Stabilizers! These are intentionally thinner than your normal o-rings to allow the use of the screw in stabs on the backspace and spacebar. PLEASE READ THE CHART BELOW FIRST! Please only buy this o-ring if you are using screw in stabilizers for your 60% keyboard. There is
Any recommendation on which store EU people buy their keycaps from? Lookin for dsa profiles😎
You want M-Size not S
Oh mb
but where can i get them in europe?
its confusing me because we also recommend the bakeneko60 o-ring but if you look at graveshift it says that the small=bakeneko60
and ik tons of people have used the M so I know it works but I wonder if both work?
guys
are their other cables you used with the wooting (i mean with Tachyon mode and 100% brightnesss) which worked fine? i dont want those from wooting
Does adding extra foam make keyboard quieter?
tachyon is pretty power intensive so not having 100% brightness is a sacrifice you will usually have to take. most good quality cables should work with the wooting in general, but it isnt confirmed if it will work at 100% brightness on tachyon and the only way to find out is by asking someone with the same third party cable or trying it out yourself.
I've heard the keyboard is pretty bright (though I cant confirm myself) and most people use it on medium-low brightness, I dont really think 100% brightness is really needed (unless you needed a flashbang on your desk)
yeah im asking someone with a third party cable here haha thats my point
i like 100% brightness but i dont like the og cable and i dont like the price of the custom ones from wooting, id like to have just a blank cable for like max 20-25
the thing is that it varies from cable to cable. I'd recommend you search for a cable and ask if anyone has it and if it works.
yeah thats why im asking here, in hope someone here got experience with it, on reddit i dont find anything
For max 25 i doubt
I've searched for a third party cable myself and found that price for the wooting custom cable is around the average price for other coiled cables. if you wanted a straight cable it may be cheaper it also may have a higher chance of working with tachyon.
yea, esp for a high quality cable
yeah i want straight cable
I've seen those for like $30+
hard to to get cheaper than that
also you get what you pay for
cheaper than 50 euros from wooting
true, but wooting's comes with a coiled and straight cable and is also confirmed to work with tachyon
anyone know where I can find a blank keycap set with or w/o the letters printed on the side?
What changes
DKS doesn’t work I think
and your lowest actuation point is 3.5 instead of 4mm
@tawdry tree stop it
you need to evaporate from this server
ty
ima evaporate from ur dreams first
then i'll go in ur nightmares
and torment u
do not deny me my revenge
I did not know that thanks
not denying but it is simply something that I don’t do. So your so called revenge doesn’t work. Pick something better.
i'm about to pick you as a housemaid and make you clean up dog shit if you keep going
@harsh dove did you have DKS issues with the jades ?
Haven’t messed with dynamic keystrokes on them
Can’t imagine there being issues
Then i might order them rn c:
You get can the Graveshift O Rings anywhere between 30A and 50A hardness, you don’t have to get one or the other.
I use a 40A for example.
you use o ring in the salvation?
Should PE foam be combined with the original plate foam or should it just be PE foam by itself?
What about 70A?
No, in the Alumaze
ring sounds like shit in the alumaze]
Not sure but I’ve used a 55A and it worked fine
With Lekkers sure
Anything else it’s fine
Does it damage something if im using that? Lol
No
It’s just hardness level
So the higher the number, the harder it is
Therefore it’s going to be harder to insert aka tighter
It also makes it more or less bouncy Right
Yeah a little bit
My spacebar sounds even and better with the o-ring
Yeah I finally fixed my spacebar stab once I put it in the Salvation
now watch the alumaze sound better than the tofu with jades
Now it sounds even
I can do it when I get home
by the tofu i mean the one with the brass weight
Obvs
Can the o ring make it sound more thockier tho? Or clackier?
oring eliminates resonance from the case. It does tend to give it a slight little bit of a deeper sound because it provides more room under the PCB though.
anyone here get their case cerakoted before?
No but my brass weight is cerakoted
did u get it done online or done with a local place?
the places near me all have iffy reviews lol
idk much abt keebs starting to get into it, are the stabs on the 60he+ good? should i change them for external screw-in or other stabs yall recommend, plz help
yes the stock stabs are good
If you want to modify the stabs, holee mod for example I’d buy new screw in stabs for that. If you just want good stabs then the 60he+ already comes with them. 👍
Wilba.Tech Salvation does it themselves
does anyone have the link to the new Jade's i read about? someone said they were releasing today in this chat?
theyve been released for a while
The KS-20Us released today. The Jades have been out for a while.
what is that
are those the dual rails
Yes
@tawdry tree do you have a link to the U's?
are they even compatible with wooting
They’re only on Taobao as of rn
Prob will be on aliexpress soon.
Yes
america can't order from taobao?
Can but it’s difficult and expensive. It’s expensive enough for europeans.
ahhhhhh
Taobao is a Chinese site.
thought we can order just like ali express lol
Not yet but the Jades are a great switch as well.
can you send the link to that? I want to see descriptons and stuff @tawdry tree
Riley just sent a link I think
Here
those are the Jades
my jades will arrive earlier than my 60he+ 😢
do you guys think the KS20u will be better tho? just because of two rails?
@teal parcel This is all we know about it, the store on Taobao that sells them have everything in mandarin.
I assume it’ll have substantially less stem wobble than Jades and Raptors but not sure about the sound.
but the jades steam wobble is already a lot better than the lekkers right?
Yes but the Lekkers are terrible so it’s not really a good comparison.
The Jades are similar to an average non HE switch.
whats better alumaze or tofu redux?
I’m buying the dual rails to test them out. I don’t believe they’ll have a better sound than Jades but I know they will have less wobble, although wobble isn’t really an issue on the Jades so we’ll see how much it’s improved. My main curiosity is the smoothness with the dual rails and any potential friction or scratchiness.
And these have an open bottom housing so I expect similar sounds to Raptors
what are your favorite switches for now? @harsh dove
Jades
jades are goated
are custom caps a night day difference? or do you think wootings double shot pbt are fine? Im new to the keyboard game but i love to try those things
same
Yeah I wouldn’t just try any profile if you’re new to it cause you may not like the feel of a certain profile
I’d probably stick to Cherry/OEM for your first set
Wooting’s Keycaps are perfectly fine.
You don’t really get higher quality than that.
They also made new colorways for Take Control keycaps I believe
whats better tofu redux or alumaze 60?
Holy60 🤣
Nvm they haven’t added them yet
I don’t like the Holy60
a few years ago I switched from standard mechanical to low profile (razer deathstalker / G915) and that was somehow okay for me. when I tried the 60he of a friend tho I new I was typing on shit hardware and I started watching videos about customs and wooting/apex. im surprised how much money you can put into a keyboard and what the sound / feel differences are
it looks like its trying to be designer
wdym
Well they not doing a good job then
ima pass pls ty
If going for designer it should be modern minimalist design
lots of desginer stuff isn't close to minimalist
Looking at the wrong designers then lol
Yeah I’m joking bro, Holy isn’t good for sound
So whats better alumaze or tofu?
Equal, the tofu with weight weighs more
But it’s just preference
Those my modern minimalist designers
Things like Celine and Prada
I wonder what ppl think of this board
Not sure there are samples sent to media
if wooting released the 80he for that price we would have riots in this discord
thats not even a case !!! its a frame
Shit cost as much as a Salvation and probably don’t even give you as much, I.e. carrying case
Plus it’s way less material
Yeah making that design probably is what cost them
But besides cost, are they good?
That case is for someone who likes Spiderman/Venom way too much
In terms of RT, response time, software etc
They claim to be better than Wooting
I don’t think another company has made as good as software as Wooting yet but I haven’t studied all of them either so idk
But it doesn’t ship yet so nobody knows.
I’m referring Holy60 from kbd
Yea I thought they would send samples to test
Holy is the case, the “keyboard” is the Rakka60 PCBA
Don’t think so or at least I haven’t seen any reviews.
Oh I see
When could we get ks-20U available in America ?
Yeah like the Salvation is the case but it comes with either an Avacado Board or the WeirdTech board or whatever they call it
I believe rakka has their own keyboard right?
Fjell best case
The moment they’re on aliexpress

I still need to get one
I have the purple one
Just been enjoying my salvation for a bit

@harsh dove have you tried the jades with the spring from the lekker? I'm heavy handed and i like the heavier spring

cam, imo if you have salvation
no point going back to tray moutn anymore lol
even tho salvation still techincally tryay mount
@harsh dove Did you clean the lube off of your stock raptors and then lube them by hand or did u just apply ontop of the factory lube?
baionlenja obj1
interesting case
$3xx tho
Does someone have @harsh dove ‘s post pinned?
No, I have not.
Applied on top
Yo every time I remember jades are lighter than l45’s I get REALLY tempted to buy them. NGL
they arent
I least I dont think
Also tempted to just wait until more come out tho
Jades are 37gf
Hi bigsly
Sup lil bro
Kind of debating if I want to get new switches for this module rebuild next month
KS-20Us released today, there will be reviews of it soon.
But Jades are a good switch either way.
Thanks for responding 🙂
I hope i get my module EU next week
my gf is out for weekend that would give me the entire weekend to have 1 on 1 time with it :p
Yeah I guess shipment to NA warehouse going slow
Thanks for tip
Any link?
Why can’t I find them
All I see is reg ks-20
They’re only on Taobao as of right now. I expect them to be on AliExpress soon.
Yeah, that’s standard. The difference is that these switches have a dual rail design. You can see it if you look at the side of the stem.
PC top for transparency because people like rgb
rgb is overrated
@tawdry tree also it being dual rail what does that really entail?
Less stem wobble
should I replace my KS-20 White over Jades? 🤔
are you not satisfied with them?
Baionlenja boards are so tasty
nah i haven't got them installed yet since I am still waiting for the module 😄
Jades good sounding
Let's see if the KS-20Us gonna make me regret ordering the Jades
I mean Jades will still be fine :v
I just haven't ordered anything because I'm broke and I've already applied switch tape mod twice
these mythic KS-20U are so rare they are not even listed on gateron.com lmao
... what lekker 2.0
or whatever they will call them
o.o
i'm also waiting on the ks20u's i ordered the lkkers with my module and then read that people think the lekkers were trash lol
they are trash lol
they wobble so much it's hilarious
well KS-20 whites are the same thing as the lekkers aint it
i dont like the angle on tofu i like it more flat
i'll probably wait for the ks20u's and swap springs since i don't like fat fingering keys
any idea on KS-20U release date? 
yuh so about one week more for gateron.com I believe
aight lets wait ;D
these right?
yeah still gotta wait for module anways got pushed back another 2 weeks
ye module page says 15 - 25 jan eta for me
#🔧│keyboard_modding message @tribal marsh
Feb 4-14 for me 
😦
Is that a thing???
@normal schooner did they say they're creating new lekkers for the 80?
mhm with less wobble
😛
but probably with same force
I missed that part
they havent gone into detail
Interesting
Yeah that’s why I’m kind of patient to buy my 4th set of HE switches lol
That night 80HE Q&A?
yes
Yeah I saw that but don’t care about the 80HE ☠️😅
fair fair
you think they'll sell those 80he switches seperatly?
we dont know anything about that yet
But did see something about Calder and new lekkers. So that’s exciting
it would not suprise me if they do. but they have not said anything about it to release it seperately
moreover they have not said anything about the switch aside from working on improving it
q2 2024
i think a kaihl he switch is also announced
Yeah
dumb question but can you corrode the magnets in he switches by cleaning them / soaking the switch parts in water
?
because I like lubing switches, and I don't like factor lube and would rather lube on a clean canvas than a muddy one
That’s why I can’t be rushed to buy new switches lol
So many new options this year
and like normal switches you can just pull the metal leaf out so you're not getting it wet but idk about he switches with the magnets
No.
oh wow so if I take them apart and dunk them in soapy water, and dry them off good, they should be fine?
nice it would only be briefly, thank you for the help
y its possible to destroy them with rust but you can lay them on top of a heater or something to be 100%
The shape of the stems makes me question the the spring size a bit
It’s a lot rounder than previous stems
Might not be able to spring swap like people are thinking
Oh, the one were you put the tape in the top housing?
How are yours holding up? I cut mine longer so they are staying and still lubed, surprisingly
I only redid mine because I rushed it last time
I predicted they’d make new switches with the 80HE
nice
I don't think it's really "new" and more of like an improvement
Don’t use soap and water, just get some high concentration rubbing alcohol
Like 91%
Still new
Same design
With improvements
Yeah exactly. They won’t use same exact molds for everything otherwise it will just be same
I feel like it's more of like a transparent upgrade
POM on POM on POM?!??
so they wouldn't be announcing it as a new product like apple
I feel like they will announce it as such
I don’t think they would keep new and improved switches under the radar
No reason to invest so much just to pretend it’s the same thing
Any changes to any product is considered a new product, no?
Well not really
Like in apparel, they’ll keep the name the same, change the style number and just note Redesign
i think if theres big changes they may be lekker 2.0, but if its just small changes probably nothing
Right. Yeah I’m hoping for lekker 2.0
Dual Rail Lekkers?!
But maybe they won’t be able to make all the changes they want and it will just be more of a refresh
Who knows
or maybe they implement something new into switches
if they make big changes we get the heerlijk60's
i like your funny words, magic man
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@pallid echo where from?
Yeah wondering the same thing. I'd likely order the case if I had the option to purchase it for 230$
https://novelkeys.com/products/salvation-keyboard?variant=43322546716839 $370 off Novelkeys
Why Does it have so many stand offs
because the leafsprings would be too flexy otherwise
ashkeebs but it’s fixed
yeah i was actually looking to get a specific red cerakoted on my tofu but saw the salvation was on sale so just bought the red one
Some of them use something called leaf springs that help with bounce and typing feel. So it looks like there's a lot more going on
What site did you get this Salvation60 off of?
I'd love to look into it as a potential option
ashkeebs but its been fixed sadly
Oh gotcha, you called it out before, I must have missed this message. Thanks for the heads up
all good, i bet there will be another sale soonish since the keyboards are listed as extras on the website!
Technically it’s only 2 standoffs
I have one
You only use 2 screws with a salvation
The rest of those are just leaf springs with rubber pads
hey cam, do u need a standoff kit or anything special to make the wooting fit in the salvation?
Nope
sweet sounds good
thats for plates
Hmm looks like the ashkeebs website doesn't offer a white version for some reason of the salvation60
plates from like smky and kbdfans
I'd probably skip out on the buy just cause of that tbh 😦
Also the reason it costs so much I think is because it's an entire kit. Perhaps you purchased just the case and it likely brought down the price quite signficantly? My thoughts on it so far
yeah unfortunately no e-white, i was actually looking for that one until i fell in love with an idea of a red case
damn yall big spenders
Did you get a PCB and plate option?
not like I can speak tho
Price error?
yes i got a pcb and plate
they ran their sale too long and didn’t notice
The Black Friday sale?
I suggest just waiting for another sale
Cause I got mine on Black Friday from novelkeys for $220
idk exactly what it was for ashkeebs but some type of sale, i doubt black friday tho since it’s recent
Comes with the full kit, avocado PCB, carrying case, stickers, etc
he needs to sell just the case
Unless you did solderable PCB then you get the weird flex PCB
hot swap is only 5 more dollars
only reason i bought it was bc i was looking into getting tofu redux cerakoted red and prices were similar
Yeah i'd get the hotswap just for a back up board lol
Yeah I got the hotswap PCB with mine
Did you receive it yet?
yea i got hotswap in case i was to dive deeper into the money sink of a hobby
not yet
You gotta show us a pic of it once it arrives 😘
because the salvation is sexy
i got you i got you



