🔧│keyboard_modding

[pale aspen]

i love top mount when you bang it with CF/Alu

[median spade]

it still just sounds like he switches is the thing

just more isolated and consistent since not tray mount

like is better than my tofu redux yeah, but not as good as was hoping

[pale aspen]

ah

sadly it was due to standoff on plate too

[median spade]

yepppp

Although im not too sad about it as does sound better overall, and the low front height very nice for gaming

[pale aspen]

nothing we could do except gateron add 2 pin like mx switch

to hold to the pcb

[median spade]

maybe one day

might get a alu plate still as am using pom with 80a tadpoles

which still pretty clacky, but at same time idk spending another $70 for a alu plate would be worth

[pale aspen]

i wonder why they dont do only 4 corner/side at the middle for standoff

with stiff plate

sound would inconsistent only mod spot

but fine for alpha

ohhhh

due to tray mount stanard

pictures please

froggg

[median spade]

Here one for now

Also pro tip make sure a cleaner is safe with your desk or you’ll get a huge spot like I have there

[pale aspen]

geez

i want black/sliver

but got red instead

what keycap set is that?

[median spade]

gmk henneseey

i have some others im going to try too

[pale aspen]

hmm less yellow/warm that i expect

[median spade]

just depends on what pad im rocking lmao

[pale aspen]

i saw henesy once it is very yellow

[median spade]

i think it's the silver and lighting pulling out cool tones more

it's ws1 or p warm

Should look warmer now

[spice steeple]

Sorry.. missed these.. I'm more of an David Tennant era person, although not the most recent.

[pale aspen]

Q1 he switches info

[gleaming crane]

Usually takes abt 3 days

[pale aspen]

not every like light switch

light normal heavy

[gaunt linden]

Aren’t they supossed to have tight tolerances (jades)

[halcyon obsidian]

the jades dont have much stem wobble

[tawdry tree]

Is that actually true cause they have the Lekker stem and top housing.

Is bottom housing tighter?

[halcyon obsidian]

they dont have the lekker stem?

[tawdry tree]

They have the lekker stem

[halcyon obsidian]

who is they?

[tawdry tree]

I don’t know, who is they?

🤣

[marble shuttle]

frog mini ?

[halcyon obsidian]

if you are talking about the new jade switches they do not have a lekker stem

[tawdry tree]

The new jade switches do have the lekker stem.

[halcyon obsidian]

no they dont

the stem is a different size, has notches on them, and have a closed bottom

[tawdry tree]

Exact same dimensions as the lekker stem with no difference in design. That is the same stem.

[halcyon obsidian]

which is all different then the lekker stem

[halcyon obsidian]

ur wrong

[tawdry tree]

Stem is not a different size, cam measured them.

[halcyon obsidian]

they came out like .1 mm difference

[tawdry tree]

Not different.

[halcyon obsidian]

still has a closed bottom and notches

[tawdry tree]

The stem is 1 on 1 the exact same.

[tawdry tree]

KS-20s/Lekkers have the exact same thing.

[halcyon obsidian]

they dont have a closed bottom

[tawdry tree]

Gateron reused the mold for the stem and top housing I believe.

[tawdry tree]

Is that what I’m saying sir?

[median spade]

Ye

[halcyon obsidian]

yes because you are saying the jades have a lekker stem

then they are different

[tawdry tree]

The Jades have a lekker stem, that is correct.

[halcyon obsidian]

wrong

[marble shuttle]

did you buy the plate from geon

[halcyon obsidian]

different stem

[tawdry tree]

The Jades have a different bottom housing.

[tawdry tree]

Not quite sir.

[halcyon obsidian]

quite

[tawdry tree]

Submit your evidence, I will wait.

[halcyon obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984799440072220692/1192537829776052265/image.png?ex=65a97066&is=6596fb66&hm=3c5fa782d9994383fe22f9dc0219b3c085e2d2f19a42e06db9ed011d866f582f&

this

[median spade]

like plate for wooting or?

[halcyon obsidian]

is different from

[tawdry tree]

That is the KS-20 stem sir.

[halcyon obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984799440072220692/1192538095623610418/disassembly-2.png?ex=65a970a6&is=6596fba6&hm=ebb41059a0f575f3fb66ef8be2b629212eff76e81dac344fde246105b38df6b7&

[halcyon obsidian]

thats the jade

[halcyon obsidian]

came straight from the gateron jade magnetic switch page

[tawdry tree]

KS-20 stem sir.

[median spade]

@harsh dove when you did the l60 stem in geon raptor did it bind or some not work at all? Thought about trying it, but read some people did that and like half the switches would bind, get stuck, or not return at all etc

[tawdry tree]

So did this.

[marble shuttle]

let me link wait you have to make compatable plate https://smartstore.naver.com/geonlab/products/9622514076

[median spade]

oh yeah i had a pom one cut

[gaunt linden]

Im asking Bc someone said that many people complained that they had woble

[median spade]

but that would have been nice rip

why isn't this plate on official geon store

[marble shuttle]

yeah look dm i bought too

[halcyon obsidian]

who?

[marble shuttle]

looking insane case

[halcyon obsidian]

it came from the jade page?

[tawdry tree]

KS-20 sir, not the Jades. Jades reuse the KS-20/lekker stem

Tolerances of the lekker and KS-20 are equally bad.

That’s why I asked if the Jades had a tighter bottom housing

as the stem is not different

[glacial wind]

this is the weirdest conversation, do you guys actually have the stem and housing on hand?

[gaunt linden]

He did @halcyon obsidian

[glacial wind]

sharing same design doesn't mean same tolerances

if you're trying to judge tolerances from photos then that's never going to get anywhere. Just like how raptors share a lot of same design as lekker but have slightly different tolerances

[glacial wind]

you guys are confusing key wobble with keycap wobble

no one has complained about key wobble on the jades. They're talking about travel difference causing stab keys to wobble off the stab itself

[gaunt linden]

Oh god my head hurts lol

[tawdry tree]

As I said; Jades use the KS-20 stem (and top housing from my understanding). As I also said; the bottom housing may have tighter tolerances.

[glacial wind]

design does not equal the same stem and housing. A lot of gateron switches share the same design and have very different tolerances, even in the non he

[tawdry tree]

Tolerances in the housing can be different, not in the stem.

[glacial wind]

how so?

we've seen stems have differences in tolerances before

I don't know why you're saying the stem and housing is exactly the same, we have no proof or info about either positive or negative for that statement

[gaunt linden]

Can that be fixed if using oem keycaps?

[glacial wind]

no you just get long pole stabs if you run into the issue

it's nothing to do with keycaps

[gaunt linden]

Alrighty thanks alot

[glacial wind]

think of it like you're trying to push a 1 meter pole into a 1.5 meter hole

or i guess technically the reverse in this case

[loud zephyr]

you won't have issues with Jades unless your spacebar is shaped like a banana, or has weird stem tolerance

[glacial wind]

it depends on technique a lot too, some people just hit their space bar hard on the sides for some reason

[pallid echo]

does anyone have both jades and raptors? i am trying to achieve more of a thocky sound profile and am considering switching to jades but i am just wondering if the difference in sound is major

[loud zephyr]

I tried to replicate the seesawing with stock sb and gmk and doesn't budge, I might give another set a go

[glacial wind]

it'll depend on the keycap stem tightness too. i wouldn't be trying to replicate it though if you don't have the problem lol

[tawdry tree]

Cam’s measurements are partially within KS-20’s specs. Creating a new mold with new dimensions could’ve been made but when a new bottom housing had to be made it quite frankly wouldn’t make any sense. Jade’s also adopted the KS-20/Omni Points original naming.

[harsh dove]

I never had that issue, all mine worked fine

[glacial wind]

why on earth wouldn't it make sense

[loud zephyr]

lol true, I'd love for others to chime in and see if they can get theirs to pop out

[harsh dove]

This

[glacial wind]

gateron does this all the time with switches going from one gen to the next. It's why we both know gateron switches can suck with awful wobble but there's some sets of switches that are actually amazingly tight despite using same design - just better tolerances

I don't even know why you're trying to fight with sindria over a topic neither of you can prove

[harsh dove]

I own both

[tawdry tree]

Well, a switch’s wobble is decided by it’s stem and rails. If you had the change the mold of the rails (bottom housing) either way you may as well reuse the stem.

[pallid echo]

would you say the difference in sound between the jades and raptors is major? i am trying to get a thocky sound profile and accidentally made a clacky sound profile lol

[glacial wind]

they may, they may not. This entire statement is a non factor in just guessing things

we've seen them not do it and also seen gateron do it

I really don't get why you're trying to fight over a topic you can't prove

especially when the original poster of the question was mistaken and there weren't any issues with stem wobble in the jades

[tawdry tree]

I find that only logical, considering all Gateron’s switches.

[glacial wind]

you know gateron both have some of the wobblest switches and also some of the tightest right?

they make both

there's even one guy who loves to review switches and has a whole spreadsheet of stem tightnesses

[tawdry tree]

That is quite literally what I said before.

[glacial wind]

again, none of your statements can be proven. They aren't logical or illogical, they're just guesses

[tawdry tree]

They are logical as I said before. I wouldn’t say it otherwise.

[glacial wind]

disagree. We know the switches are tighter, we don't know if they did tweaks to just stem, housing or some combination of both

there's nothing logical in your guess

[tawdry tree]

Either way, my point was a question of how tight the bottom housing was.

[tawdry tree]

We have measurements, which I already took with a grain of salt.

[glacial wind]

someone took internal measurements of the internals of jades vs lekkers?

if we have the measurements why not just compare the two

[harsh dove]

Correct, which is why, despite my measurements, I only measured the stems, not any of the housings. So going based off my measurements alone isn’t a great basis. Also considering my measurements can be off or maybe I measured it differently than they do in the factory etc etc. lots of variables.

[glacial wind]

oh you mean cam's thing. Yeah this isn't some accurate internal thing at all, I don't know how this is even an argument

[harsh dove]

Yeah I wouldn’t use my measurements as fact at all

Was just a quick thing I did at home

With digital calipers

[glacial wind]

gateron has been known to tweak things mid cycle too, like for example they caused the entire lekker issue mid last year

remember when wooting had that small amount of switches causing issues because gateron randomly change mold mid cycle

and wooting had to go tell them to knock it off and change it back lol

[tawdry tree]

^

[gaunt linden]

Which ones do you prefer

[tawdry tree]

I sent Gateron a message, if it is that the stem is different, stem swapping them could also be an option. 2 stones 1 bird.

[glacial wind]

we have the guy who took the measurements telling you to please not use them the way you're saying

[harsh dove]

Raptors imo are more clacky

[tawdry tree]

I took his measurements with a grain of salt and compared both.

[median spade]

hmm okay and good to know, what combo has been your final rn? just hand lubed raptor or?

[tawdry tree]

We’ll see.

[glacial wind]

yes i know you did, but we're telling you to please not do that because it's not super accurate or meant for that

[tawdry tree]

We’ll see.

[sharp yew]

see to a shower ngl

[harsh dove]

Stock jades are my go to rn

[tawdry tree]

If I’m wrong I’ll let you know and if I’m right I’ll let you know.

[median spade]

oh jades interesting

[tawdry tree]

You tried stem swap already?

[median spade]

how do the jades sound compared to raptors and lekkers?

[glacial wind]

please don't. I really don't care which way around it is.

[pallid echo]

this is what my raptor/lekker frankenswitch sounds like in the stock plastic case, i was trying to go for thocky without buying new switches but i might have to

[tawdry tree]

It doesn’t work like that.

You’ll be the first to know.

[harsh dove]

With jades yes, I tried Lekker stem and Raptor stem

[glacial wind]

whelp guess it's back on the block list

[tawdry tree]

I been there the whole time sweetheart.

[tawdry tree]

Any difference with lekker stem compared to stock jade stem?

[harsh dove]

What mods have you done?

[marble shuttle]

are they good looks like is really good

[median spade]

Cam how do the jade switches compare against the lekkers and geon sound wise?

[glacial wind]

honestly there's only so much you can do for thock

[pallid echo]

gummy ring mount, tape mod, pcb foam, wooting case foam

and lekker stem in raptor housing

[pale aspen]

thock is easier than clack

[harsh dove]

Steel plate or PC plate?

[pallid echo]

PC plate

[harsh dove]

Tbf it’s gonna be hard to get thock with raptors imo

[glacial wind]

i wouldn't just jump on new switches right away, there's going to be a limit with how much you can make a 60he thock right now, make sure you aren't just buying switches with fingers crossed that it will sound like a full custom

make sure it's realistic, because even with jades you may not get to the 'thock' that you want

[pallid echo]

yeah true i might just wait it out until all the new ones come out

[harsh dove]

Yeah jades aren’t very thocky either

[pallid echo]

im kinda digging this sound anyway lol

[harsh dove]

They have a unique sound imo

[median spade]

clack better than thock

[sharp yew]

https://tenor.com/view/mugik-gif-24179122

[pallid echo]

this doesnt sound bad rn it was just a surprise to me lol

[harsh dove]

Nah doesn’t sound bad at all

But it’s not thock

[median spade]

thocc is what gets you into the hobby, and clack is why you stay

[harsh dove]

If that’s what you want

[glacial wind]

honestly if neos come out by 80he time and they sound as clacky as the demo I may go for them over the jades

[pallid echo]

i think i might just stick with the plastic case lol

i love this look

[glacial wind]

just commit to the clack

[slim drift]

what are some good mods for the 60he to add some cream/thock?

[harsh dove]

Are neos one of the new dual rails?

[pallid echo]

ill switch over to the clack team

[loud zephyr]

they're good given I didn't need to re-lube them, still feels like tray mount just isn't it overall

[glacial wind]

think so, but owlabs hasn't said much about it since they fighting with gateron

just that one twitter video of the sound

[gleaming crane]

Jades honestly sound very marbly

[harsh dove]

Cause of the Gateron design patent thing?

[glacial wind]

yeah

[harsh dove]

Stupid

[pale aspen]

lube, would help

[median spade]

now i debate if i want to buy even more switches hearing about these jades

[pale aspen]

my with everything ready keycap profile play the role

abs is high pitch for me

[marble shuttle]

the last sentence is facts ..... 😔

[pale aspen]

but in the end, thock or deep thock

[harsh dove]

My biggest recommendation to everyone in here who wants new switches is to just wait. Let people like myself and others test out the new shit and then make your decisions once enough information is out

[pale aspen]

with mx, i rarely got depe thock (main becuade i use long pole lmao)

[glacial wind]

the interesting about jades is that in the 80he with more room for sound + long pole, the sound might be quite nice even if it's not full thock

[harsh dove]

Don’t just buy raptors or jades or whatever cause I said I liked them lol

You might not like them

[pale aspen]

Cam, tomorrow 10:00 China time

[pallid echo]

too late i bought EVERYTHING

[pale aspen]

Ks20u availavle

just news for yoy

[median spade]

how are jades against the raptors cam as i've asked but you haven't responded

[harsh dove]

Sorry lol but I prefer jades over raptors

[glacial wind]

i thought they were available already?

[harsh dove]

In terms of sound and feel

[pale aspen]

no yet

[median spade]

sound wise what's the difference

[glacial wind]

is the taobao a preorder?

[harsh dove]

To me the jades have a unique sound

Which I like

[glacial wind]

i didn't even check the taobao listing fully because their site is so scuffed

[pale aspen]

it is place holder

[median spade]

do they have less of that "rattle" soundh as i call it for he

[harsh dove]

Yeah basically none imo

[median spade]

like im enjoying my wooting in my frog mini now but it's been a tad underwhelming

better than the tofu it was in

might try jades next then as whatevs

[mental salmon]

@harsh dove , did you have to do adjustments for gaming after installing the jades?

[median spade]

do you make a sound test for your jades by chance?

[harsh dove]

For Raptors, I did.
For Jades, I did not.

[glacial wind]

the thing with sound tests as well is you kind of need the same setup done back to back with different switches

[median spade]

yeah i nkow as i have a youtube channel with sound tests haha

but it gives me a reference at least

[harsh dove]

Yep which is why for my test I always do the same thing 99% of the time

[median spade]

because only sound test on youtube of the jades rn is kind of scuff

[harsh dove]

Yeah I don’t like them

Felt like it doesn’t do the switches justice or they don’t actually sound like Jades

[median spade]

did you make one?

[harsh dove]

Yeah I have a couple

[pale aspen]

stem wobble jade vs ks white

[median spade]

Do share if you don't mind

[tawdry tree]

Interesting, where did u find this?

[glacial wind]

that's quite noticably less wobbly if you check it back to back

[pale aspen]

i feel like Jade is really good for majority of target user

thock

did anyone try to chase Clack on jade yet?

or i have to do it myself

[pale aspen]

Rakka's billibill chanel

he did serveral other HE keyboard test too

[pale aspen]

is that salvation?

[harsh dove]

Shorter video is without case foam, longer video is with case foam

Yes it is a salvation

[median spade]

oh yeah they do sound less "rattlely" for sure

[harsh dove]

And yes I know you’re not supposed to use case foam inside it but I was experimenting

[pale aspen]

good feet on them

imagine with Thick PBT (XMI) , MT3 PBT or Cerakey

😳

[median spade]

what plate are you using in your salvation

[pale aspen]

PC

[median spade]

yeah was just copmaring against your other vids

they sound more like a mx switch then everything else

not bad

can't hear that HE rattle noise really

[pale aspen]

my tinfoil hat thoery is Gateron posioned wooting all along

[mental salmon]

Thanks for sharing, I believe while following your advice about waiting, at least I will lube the stock l60s

[bronze grove]

Dey' poisjuned deh waterwhole

[harsh dove]

Yeah I’m using PC Plate, waiting on the Black PC Plate from Calder lol

[bronze grove]

About that

[harsh dove]

Yeah def lube your lekkers and wait for the new stuff

[harsh dove]

lol is it up now?

[loud zephyr]

Here you go, nerds. Keyboard design competition and winner gets $5k to fund your prototype: https://elementsworkshop.io/competition/

[pale aspen]

why would you want black pc?

aesthetic?

[median spade]

ill probably pick up those jade switches as was comparing the youtube ones and yours

pretty consistent and they don't have the "rattle" sound

[craggy viper]

idk if that would help it much

[median spade]

I thought about putting l60 stem in my raptors but probs would get unlucky and they'll bind lmao

[glacial wind]

they don't bind but it feels 'off'

[sour blade]

hi guys whats the concensus for Jade Lubing?

stock is fine?
wipe lube off and reapply?
add more and spread?

[pale aspen]

from other sound test, it seem to lower the tone, but that was before Jade come out with bottom sealed

i had it in unlubed

[glacial wind]

I don't ever wipe lube off unless i know factory is doing some weird lube

[median spade]

oh yeah, imj just going off a forum post where some users had 50% of their switches bind with l60 stem

[glacial wind]

yeah I did the l60 into raptor swap before

it's not so much that it 'binds' but just a lot of them feel too tight

[median spade]

makes sense

no

it has it's own style

[glacial wind]

yeah they're not compatible at all

[loud zephyr]

I wouldn't bother touching it unless these early batches are cherrypicked, which probably is the case

[glacial wind]

usually the way it is with good factory lube is it's fine, but if you're super picky you can open them up and you'll find maybe 1 in 5 has slightly uneven lubing on one of the rails

[harsh dove]

Less light bleed

And I got $11 off my black pc plate

So I paid $17 including expedited shipping

[pale aspen]

wow, i assume usually people here would want more light lol

[harsh dove]

$10 for the plate , $7 for shipping

[pale aspen]

not bad

[frosty sentinel]

Got a new chair people’s! Don’t look at the rat nest of wires.. I had to change some and haven’t put em back lol

[glacial wind]

embody nice

[pale aspen]

no sffpc

you need sffpc

[glacial wind]

i keep going back and forth on whether to buy an embody, on whether the 10% improvement is worth over my already good office chair

it's such a big price jump to go from fairly good chair to embody lol

[median spade]

so interesting

just made 20 l60 stem with raptor housing

none super tight and all great, wonder if it's cause i have first batch l60

rattle he sound is gone too so think imma do the other 40 now

[glacial wind]

i assume you used the raptors before stem swap right?

[median spade]

very much so yeah

[sour blade]

understood, thankyou

[glacial wind]

alright, so what you'll probably notice now is that they feel like L65-L70

it's not so much that the tightness stops it from moving, just that the switches aren't light anymore

[median spade]

yeah they do feel slightly heavier but im used to like 65g spring in my mx stuff

ohhhhh

well imma do this then i like it lmao

[glacial wind]

yeah, so if you like heavier switches then you might like the stem swap anyway

[median spade]

yeah because these 20 on my alphas and spacebar are way better

like sound and feel wise

okay well good thing it tried that

personally i woulod say they feel ilke 62g ish if i had to say

[wet hazel]

I'm with a 4L SFFPC since years

[pale aspen]

sffpc reign supreme

i was 4L

but now 14.6L

sad

my monitor is 4k

[median spade]

i did like a 30l and that killed my ambition of ever doing sff

maintence and adjusting things was such a pain i gave up SFF dreams forever

[wet hazel]

Photo from years ago but I'm still using the k39 v2

Ryzen 5900x,64 Gb Ram, rtx 3060 ti

Modded gpu, cooler and such

[pallid echo]

does anyone know if there were plans to make a white alumaze?

[frosty sentinel]

just drove 2 hours to get it.. decetn deal of $500

[glacial wind]

great pickup for $500

[unkempt crystal]

lf for cheap silicon cable

i dont use lights on my keyboard

so cheap is gut

anyone has any ideas

[bronze grove]

Yes.

[pallid echo]

W

[tawdry tree]

UGreen is pretty cheap and good.

[pallid echo]

white alumaze would be so good looking

[unkempt crystal]

could u link it

im looking for a coiled one btw

[tawdry tree]

Oh, not coiled.

🤣

If you want a coiled one why not get the one from Wooting directly? I don’t think a cheaper coiled is much cheaper.

[unkempt crystal]

i have

already

wooting cable

but im looking for specificaly

silicone one

[polar girder]

So jades on top rn?

rest TBD?

[tawdry tree]

Yes, but the KS-20U switches will release pretty soon. Tomorrow on Taobao and a bit later on aliexpress I’d assume.

KS-20Us are the dual rail switches.

[median spade]

cherry he when

[wet hazel]

I hope there will be sound tests soon, we only have one comparing Dual Rail vs Original vs Jade

https://kbdfans.com/products/holy60

[tawdry tree]

There will be.

[median spade]

L60 stem in raptors swap is complete and they sound/feel much better

[tender rain]

Any keyboard experts know what brand these keycaps are?

[daring violet]

I’ve been debating getting one of these, how do you like it so far? I’ve been using a DXRacer for so long (12+ years) that I had to replace the casters, they would wobble and make a terrible clunk noise whenever I shifted direction. I fixed that but the chair is just so old that it doesn’t really give much support, I’m on the lighter side (145lbs) so most newer gaming chairs don’t really have much give since they’re designed for 200-300lb, to expand on that, my roommate picked up a secretlab chair and while he gives it a lot of praise and says it’s comfortable, it feels like the cushion is too hard for me and doesn’t give in a sense

Sorry for the S.A. But really looking for good insight on the herman miller as with it being so expensive, I want to make sure it’s the right one for me

[spare mauve]

Got the embody gaming black too - best ive could have done for my back. no regrets

[median spade]

Yeah I have an embody and aeron both are great

[daring violet]

My back has been feeling terrible as of lately, DXRacer for a decade really did a number on me

[frosty sentinel]

Well I just got it today. I will say not a ton of cushion, but the chair feels like its holding you so not much cushion is needed in my opinion

ive been sitting in it the last few hours and dont feel any strain

[daring violet]

Good to hear, I might just pick one up here pretty soon, I appreciate y’all’s input

[spare mauve]

theres one thing i wish i could do tho. the aeron had an option to be slightly tilted forward so youre super upright. with the embody youre always leaned back a little

but the aeron kinda hurt my legs in longer sessions, thats why its the embody

[median spade]

you can tighten up the embody so it doens't lean back like that

well i guess it depends on how you sit

[spare mauve]

i did, its still no where close to the aeron :c

[median spade]

[spare mauve]

also got the atlas headrest. dont think its worth it. it just doesnt need one

[mental salmon]

As the 60HE is my new main, I want to put my older keyboard in a nice stand, any that you guys recommend?

[quiet bay]

https://osume.com/products/two-tier-keyboard-shelf

They also have a three tier one

[mental salmon]

Thanks, checking

[gaunt linden]

Somebody said they felt heavier after doing that, how did it go with you?

[median spade]

they are indeed heavier but im used to the weight coming from my other custom keyboards

feel like 63ish g to me if I had to say comparing against my non he stuff

[fluid ravine]

I’m using PC plate, sorry I haven’t answered I was at school. On my way to my friends house em

[quiet bay]

There's more friction because the lekker stem doesn't perfectly fit the raptor housing

but in return there's alot less wobble

[median spade]

sound is better too and doesn't have the "rattle" HE sound as I would call it

[quiet bay]

I don't get how the lekkers have...

so MUCH wobble

like the housing moves so easily

[median spade]

gateron things

tbh

[quiet bay]

ye

[median spade]

they do yeah

still have some wobble

if anyone is buying switches rn should probs get the jade ones or wait to see what the dual rail stuff turns into

[fluid ravine]

Yes indeed I had this issue. My fix was “breaking them in”, so without lube and grease, I would install the stabs with the switch and keycap and move it up and down as much as possible until it slowly comes up. It should look sluggishly slow when coming up. After that you can use like a vibrator to spam the modifier until smooth.

I will give details in a bit

Just arrived at the house

[quiet bay]

There are also keyboard racks on amazon

which are cheaper

[median spade]

they are still great so don't feel bad

[quiet bay]

although the osume ones look alot nicer

[median spade]

they are much better than the lekkers

the lekkers easily top 3 worst switch ive used probably

I do not have jades on hand

i say i wont' buy them but probably will

[fluid ravine]

After smooth you can now use your lube and grease. I would light on the krytox on the stem and housing.
Fyi the stem and keycap tolerance is the problem. @sand oasis

[sand oasis]

aight cool ive been spamming my space and its working to some degree but its still not coming up as quick so will try this ty

[median spade]

ye

[fluid ravine]

so that means you're already doing it good job

now just keep going

and no problemo

[sand oasis]

just found it a bit werid that the smaller stabs were working fine but the big one was a bit slower but slow progress is the way

[median spade]

Tx stabs amazing but tolerances so tight a tad too much lube and here you are

[next tree]

does anybody feel that lubing the latest batches of keyboards is necessary?

[agile grove]

it was never necessary with any batch

but if you want your keyboard to sound better hand lubing is almost always better than stock

[next tree]

i guess i should reword my question. did anybody feel like it made a difference hand lubing the latest batches of keyboards?

[agile grove]

yes, as I said hand lubing keyboards is almost always better

[next tree]

well the reason i ask is, from youtubers, they said the earlier batches it made a significant difference but the latest batches it was minor to the point that it may not be worth the time

[agile grove]

I’ve still seen a fairly large improvement imo, but I would say it’s a lot better than before. certainly worth the time imo but not really as much as before.

[sand oasis]

yeh without lube it was tight and ive done a lil bit of lube and grease and here we are spamming space all evening

[radiant dagger]

anyone have a sound test of lekkers vs jades vs oranges vs raptors?

[upbeat minnow]

Anyone using durock stabs with the pc plate? Mine won’t spring back up when using them for some reason.

[next tree]

oh okay. thats very helpful to know. I have never modded a keyboard before . so i don't know if i'd be able to notice a difference after spending all that time

[sand oasis]

Do they all not bounce back or is it only the larger ones

I’ve got tx ap stabs and my space didn’t bounce back at first but after warming it up it’s nearly at full function

[upbeat minnow]

They work with the steel plate perfectly but with pc plate they don’t come back up at all for some reason. I installed a fresh one without any lube and it was a little better but still reduced all the noise from the upstroke

[sand oasis]

Oh idk then that’s weird

[upbeat minnow]

Are you using tx stabs with wooting?

[sand oasis]

Maybe spam press them for a bit

Yeh you can get tx plate mount stabs

[upbeat minnow]

Ah ok will have to check them out, I have some but they aren’t compatible with my wooting

[novel yoke]

Any recommended mods? I’m getting the module and want to figure out mods before I assemble the whole thing

[sand oasis]

Yeh I got them for about 15 pounds from a website from serpentkeys

They do do shipping to eu I think depending on region

[upbeat minnow]

Can you link them? I’m sure mine are also clip in but they have to go through the screw in holes

[sand oasis]

Start of by lubing the switches and then do your research on what other mods affect sound and see what you like, tape mode burger mount are both popular mods

[sand oasis]

https://www.serpentkeys.co.uk/products/tx-ap-plate-mount-stabilisers#:~:text=Description,unwanted noise%2C and reduce wobble.

[upbeat minnow]

Do they have the little things that you push in the bottom to secure them?

[sand oasis]

Nah they only came with the 2 parts of the housing

[harsh dove]

Clip-Ins are not the same as Plate Mount

[upbeat minnow]

Ah yeh those ones are different, I’ll pick some up. I’m also in uk

Thanks

[harsh dove]

Clip-Ins are for PCB Mount stabs

[sand oasis]

Yeh it’s like 3 quid shipping

[harsh dove]

Aka screw ins

[harsh dove]

Check out the #🪛│modding_faq

[novel yoke]

Apparently they improved the Lubing for the 70 pack switches, does anyone know if it theres still a difference hand lining them?

[harsh dove]

Hand lubing is almost always better

More consistent

Just takes forever

[sand oasis]

Ahh it’s relaxing once you get used to it

[upbeat minnow]

The wooting stabs are fine tbh but im one short after switching from iso to ansi with my rma

[upbeat minnow]

Are you using a pc plate with your tx?

[sand oasis]

Nah

On iso as well and haven’t yet brought an after market plate

[upbeat minnow]

I think the pc plate has some compatibility issues with after market stabs.

[sand oasis]

It’s possible but it doesn’t make sense as to why it would

[upbeat minnow]

Yeh no idea why but I did a straight swap and none of the durocks would spring back up

As soon as I switched back they were fine

[loud zephyr]

One of the possibilities is the plate cutouts for the stabs, if it's a tight fit the potential for binding comes into play. This was happening with Parallel's Snake keyboard with Alu plates, and the solution was to file around the cutouts to allow for a bit wiggle room.

[harsh dove]

I personally don’t mind it, it’s like therapy , but most hate it or don’t have time to do it

[untold wigeon]

@loud zephyr do u have jades

[loud zephyr]

Yes

[harsh dove]

I’ve used 3 or 4 different stabs on my PC Plate and haven’t had a single issue with any of them.

[untold wigeon]

can i have em

[harsh dove]

I’ve used the stock stabs, TX AP, FL CMMK v3s and Durock V2’s

[sand oasis]

Agreed

[harsh dove]

Not a single issue

[loud zephyr]

No, buy those dual rails instead

[untold wigeon]

why

[loud zephyr]

So you won't be unoriginal

[untold wigeon]

i already ordered the Jades bub

[loud zephyr]

unlucky bro

[untold wigeon]

but they are taking long to ship

so give me yours

not unlucky

gimme that shit asap

[sand oasis]

Have you tried it with different keycaps

[harsh dove]

Hype for jades is dead bro you’re late

[sand oasis]

It’s keycap dependant I’m pretty sure

[untold wigeon]

idc abt hype

[harsh dove]

More than likely

[untold wigeon]

hype can suck it

[harsh dove]

Cheap keycaps can mess with your stabs

[untold wigeon]

if anything its good the hype is over

[untold wigeon]

mfw people downgrade keycaps for no reason

[quiet bay]

how was tx ap vs fl cmmk?

[harsh dove]

TX AP is Goated

[sand oasis]

Yeh I swapped coloured space from the same keycap set and it works perfectly where the one I have now doesn’t work as much

[harsh dove]

Fuc the rest

Rest have way too much wiggle room for me

[untold wigeon]

what lube did u use with TX AP?

[harsh dove]

I love how tight TX AP is

Dielectric

[quiet bay]

ok so tx ap best xd

[harsh dove]

Yeah easily

[untold wigeon]

you did a really thin coat im guessing

[harsh dove]

Tx Ap all day

[harsh dove]

Yes

Don’t need a lot with tx

[untold wigeon]

ye i saw

if u put more it actually makes it worse

[harsh dove]

Yeah

And it’ll leak out the bottom

[untold wigeon]

u cant just dip the whole shit in

[upbeat minnow]

Sound comparison between lekker and magnetic jades. J is stock lekker, k stock mag jade, l lubed mag jade

[untold wigeon]

honestly my plate mount stab are fines besides a bit of ticking on the far left of the spacebar but i already got the module

[untold wigeon]

whats this supposed to show

[sand oasis]

I’m gonna take a wild guess and say they are different switches

[upbeat minnow]

Just edited to explain

[untold wigeon]

hmm

the lube does make a difference

what did you lube on it?

considering how lubed it is stock

[harsh dove]

I feel like J and K sound the same

Lube or stock lube

[sand oasis]

The k sounds better imo

[harsh dove]

Sorry K and L

Not J

[sand oasis]

Sounds like a slight difference

[upbeat minnow]

205g0 but I didn’t bother to lube them all as it wasn’t a huge difference over stock and I was happy with stock sound

[harsh dove]

But yeah both the jades sound the same to me

[upbeat minnow]

Jades sound amazing

[harsh dove]

Whether factory lube or hand lube

[untold wigeon]

there is a bit less spring noise on L

than K

[turbid karma]

Do they feel the same after hand-lubing?

[upbeat minnow]

Best thing I’ve bought for my wooting

[untold wigeon]

yeah

its crazy that a stock wooting but with jades sounds better than $500 wootings but with the lekkers

this just shows how huge of a difference the switch can make

[turbid karma]

Can't wait for my jades. My $500 Wooting sounds like trash with the lekkers

[untold wigeon]

same LOL

[turbid karma]

Like teeth chattering in a winter breeze

[upbeat minnow]

I agree. The lekkers are almost impossible to get a good sound from.

[untold wigeon]

i mean if u like dogshit

they sound good

they only sound good on the stabilizers somehow

[turbid karma]

Yeah, I've tried every mod I've done to other boards and they just don't sound right. They are loose AF. Even with films, they just wobble

[harsh dove]

Switch tape mod was the best thing for lekkers

Also takes forever to do tho

[upbeat minnow]

Mag jades are up there with other premium switches imo. I love my wooting now

[untold wigeon]

gateron needs to be sued for making lekkers sound so bad

[turbid karma]

I ordered some Jades like 5 days ago. They said like 10-14 days. Also picked up a PC plate for more experimentation.

[harsh dove]

I’m waiting for my black pc plate

[untold wigeon]

im waiting for my carbon fiber plate to ya know pass customs already

[harsh dove]

Not gonna happen

[untold wigeon]

oh ye?

[lilac grove]

hmm want to know how jades sound with cerakey

[harsh dove]

Probably how they’re truly supposed to sound

[sage flicker]

lekker springs wen?

[harsh dove]

They just finished making them, I think they’re either in production or on the way to warehouse

[sage flicker]

nice thx

[harsh dove]

Np

[lilac grove]

in my head it sounds amazing

[harsh dove]

lol same but I don’t want cerakeys

Least not for gaming

[lilac grove]

understandable

[harsh dove]

Would be cool to have some cerakey blanks with a jade stone design

To pair with the Jade switches

These aren’t cerakeys but a good color match

[lilac grove]

the color would fit y

[frosty sentinel]

Cleaned up some wires, and posted on Reddit.. figured I would share with you guys! The wooting looks right at home.

[harsh dove]

Nice setup but ima nit pick that wood support beam in front of your legs

Get you a jig saw and cut it off lol

[untold wigeon]

nice setup but pc dont go on desk

n monitor way too small

quite pointy

[upbeat minnow]

Embody gang 👊 I’ve also updated my colour scheme to green and orange and have leafy wallpaper but yet to take pics

[untold wigeon]

ur a purple enjoyer

[quiet bay]

the embody fits very well

how's the comfort?

also that desk looks like it's been through abuse lol

[pallid echo]

i kinda like the desk lol

gives it character ngl

[upbeat minnow]

Have since abandoned the purple for orange and green

[untold wigeon]

idk how people have nice setups for long

real nice setup but i could never have it clean

[upbeat minnow]

Yeh I clean it every day, I’ve got 10 dogs so have to be ocd with the cleaning 😂

Air duster does a great job though. Only takes a few minutes

[sharp yew]

feather duster

perhaps a surface cleaner

[willow bronze]

a clean desk is a non productive desk

[normal schooner]

[untold wigeon]

not having a lot of shit helps

ok ill only have the kb and mouse nonthing else

real

A real mans setup

[willow bronze]

real

Im still setting up lol

[pallid echo]

very nice very nice

[willow bronze]

waiting on the wooting pcb for that ewhite tofu

[untold wigeon]

I despise grip tape on mice

i do too

[willow bronze]

I don't mind too much

[untold wigeon]

mine is almost done besides the keyboard

[pallid echo]

depends on the mouse

mine needs some wall decorations

[untold wigeon]

mine needs the walls painted but idc

[pallid echo]

then im set

[untold wigeon]

it doesnt affect my mood or the performance

Where’s the mousepad

there is a mousepad

[normal schooner]

@untold wigeon

[untold wigeon]

its just super thin

Why

its a hardpad

[normal schooner]

how fast is your tv?

[untold wigeon]

wtf is that

[willow bronze]

arent those glass pads

[untold wigeon]

i do stack my hyate otsu on it tho

[normal schooner]

[untold wigeon]

YOOO IS THAT THE TV SETUP

its an old glorious helios xl

[silver pecan]

Jades came in 4 days early

They’re pretty loud imo, do u guys think lubing them myself will make a difference?

[untold wigeon]

ye

💀

I’m not actually dead but that depicts my reaction

i dont play competitive, so its the best thing for triple As

doesnt matter if its a TV or not

its faster than all monitors that aren't oled

[normal schooner]

[untold wigeon]

who created that dog emote

The dog

insane

Why would you buy a tv for a monitor tho

[normal schooner]

your setup looks cool doc

[pallid echo]

its illegal to play triple a games on a small monitor

[untold wigeon]

because its better

than most monitors

[pallid echo]

jk but i prefer TV for triple a games too

[untold wigeon]

I tried the AW3423DW the qd-oled ultrawide was too small and didn't like

[normal schooner]

no and not everyone has got money played for years on a tn display

[untold wigeon]

Played all of rdr2 and Elden ring on my 24”

[untold wigeon]

because it's literally 800 euros on sale and it outperforms everything in that price class for what it is

Reasonable price

its 4k 120hz perfect hdr, perfect pixel response times

[pallid echo]

i played elden ring on my monitor as well

never played rdr2 tho

[untold wigeon]

I came from stacked super ultrawides and stacked normal ultrawides so the TV is relatively small

I hated my old 32”

tho you can't really play games with a bezel in the middle

It was too bing

i hated 32 too but that was because it was Samsung and VA

i had the Neo G8

I had I think odyssey g7 240hz

1440p at 32 inch is yikes

for competitive games i probably would not buy bigger than 27 inches tho

That’s why I bought the 24

i think the PG27 the 1440p 240hz oled @normal schooner has is the perfect competitive monitor

For comp games

then ur good

i also use mine with PS5

and ultrawide was shit

with that

What monitor is pg27

PG27AQDM

or the LG27GR95QE

tho the asus is brigther

Is pg27 a tuf gaming?

its a ROG

this

Oh

i was considering it but it's way too small

I have a rog swift too

I've ruined myself with immersive ultrawides

and giant TVs before

the only thing besides the shit lekker switches i need to change is probably find a better solution for the mousepad

I like rogs for gaming

i like this thin hardpad for normal desktop usage

but for gaming i always stack the artisan hyate otsu on top

i like the softer feel of it

[willow bronze]

get a matte glass panel for your whole desk

[untold wigeon]

i am a desk smasher so no

Glass pad?

also i have around 13kg of stuff on my desk

that wouldnt end well

glass is a very dangerous material

[willow bronze]

as long as its not sharp its fine

[gaunt linden]

Should i order jades or wait?

[untold wigeon]

just buy it

they are objectively good

idk how i even lived with this lekkers

i pulled out one of my old keyboards and it sounds so much better

when you game or slow type these lekkers sound so bad its insane

[willow bronze]

i would use wooting only for gaming

[untold wigeon]

im not changing out my keyboard any time i game

[silver pecan]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

just got them today

theyre pretty good imo

a lot better than the lekkers, the lekkers lubed are just quieter, only thing i thought was better but these feel and sound way nicer

and it took em like 3 days to come

[willow bronze]

did u order via gateron

[silver pecan]

yeah

[untold wigeon]

i ordered via aliexpress cuz i didnt wanna give gateron tax id

[silver pecan]

also dont use foam

ngl it sounds better without it

[untold wigeon]

foam in the tofu redux barely does anything so

the only foam that does anything in the tofu is the stock foam from the plastic wooting case

[silver pecan]

i was using the stock wooting foam

yeah but it sounds worse with the jades for some reason

[untold wigeon]

the foam was good to hide the shit sound from the lekkers a bit

[silver pecan]

yeah true

i feel like my kb is clacky now though

with the jades

[untold wigeon]

now some of my lekkers with no foam sounds like unlubed stabs

which is wild

[willow bronze]

clack best sound

[silver pecan]

yeah but i like thock

[untold wigeon]

it should be deep

[silver pecan]

my lekkers were thocky

[untold wigeon]

really?

my lekkers are clacky af

and rattly

[silver pecan]

yeah ngl my lekkers were very thocky

i overlubed them

[willow bronze]

thock is easily achievable

[silver pecan]

on purpose

[untold wigeon]

mine were thocky too when i first lubed them

[silver pecan]

but it was weird bc there were inconsistent swithces

they felt like shit lowkey

like i feel like now the jades feel more responsive and quicker

prolly cause i overlubed the lekkers

[silver pecan]

how?

[untold wigeon]

try 2 layers of tape on the pcb and jam some pollyfill in that bitch

[silver pecan]

i used 3 layers of tapemod

[untold wigeon]

2 worked the best for me

in the alumaze and the tofu

[willow bronze]

can change to pc plate

[silver pecan]

do u think getting the brass weight is worth

[untold wigeon]

absolutely

[willow bronze]

and add weight

[untold wigeon]

tofu without brass weight is terrible

[silver pecan]

the thing is, i burgermounted and its so annoying to unscrew and screw in

because the o rings come out and shit

so it takes me a bit of time to rescrew them in

[silver pecan]

really?

its 60 cad

is it really worth

[untold wigeon]

yes it is

[silver pecan]

bet thanks bro

[untold wigeon]

its an absolute must for this

otherwise just get the alumaze

[silver pecan]

ive been thinking of getting it but i thought it wouldnt make a noticeable difference

[untold wigeon]

theres no point in getting a tofu without the weight

[silver pecan]

ill buy it rn

[untold wigeon]

it makes a huge difference

[turbid karma]

I really like the Mason60. That thing is like 5 brass weights.

[silver pecan]

this thing right

[untold wigeon]

yes

[silver pecan]

what about the pcb thing

does this do much

[untold wigeon]

thats the plate

[willow bronze]

that's the plate

[silver pecan]

plate yeah my bad

[untold wigeon]

what plate do you have right now?

[silver pecan]

just the stock wooting one

i never opened it or nothing

[untold wigeon]

oh

if you want thock

[willow bronze]

fr4 is pretty good

[untold wigeon]

get the carbon fiber plate too

[willow bronze]

cf doesnt thock lol

[turbid karma]

Anyone order from Gateron to the US lately? Curious how long it takes for shipping.

[untold wigeon]

it sounds the deepest

in the tofu

[willow bronze]

cf is clackiest of the clack

[untold wigeon]

badseed found that out

[willow bronze]

besides alu

[silver pecan]

where do i get that

[untold wigeon]

fr4 if anything is clacky af

i mean on the kbdfans site

[silver pecan]

so the plates

[untold wigeon]

no

not that

hold on

https://kbdfans.com/products/compatible-accessories-for-wooting-60he?_pos=1&_psq=wooting&_ss=e&_v=1.0

honestly if ur already buying from kbd

just buy both

[silver pecan]

carbon fiber or fr4

wtf why

why would i get both of em

[turbid karma]

Get em all

[untold wigeon]

they are relatively cheap

[silver pecan]

wait yo ansi?

i have iso no?

[untold wigeon]

if u have iso ur fucked

u cant plate swap

only the iso module has the pc plate too

[willow bronze]

u can just print one

[silver pecan]

wait n

i have ansi

[lilac grove]

iso pc plate coming soon as far as i heared

[silver pecan]

im trippin

iso is the one with the fat enter key right

the huge enter

?

[untold wigeon]

yes

[silver pecan]

nah i have ansi then

how long does it take to swap plates

do i gotta take the switches off and shit

[turbid karma]

30min?

[silver pecan]

so yo i get the carbon fiber plate, not the fr4 right?\

[untold wigeon]

its 5 screws to take the module out, 8 screws to take the pcb off of the plate then you pull out all the switches

[turbid karma]

You basically gotta take the whole thing apart

[lilac grove]

big L enter on right is iso if you dont have that its not iso

[untold wigeon]

i mean

honestly

i only said carbon fiber because u order from kbdfans already

but if you want you can just go with the wooting pc plate

on the kbdfans plates(both of them) you need to manually attach the standoffs

its just screws but it is an extra step

[silver pecan]

does it even make a difference bruh

[untold wigeon]

not a big one

[lilac grove]

there should be even a black pc plate coming in the next days

[untold wigeon]

steel plate sounds the worst

its very loud and very clacky

[silver pecan]

so should i even bother getting it then

im definitely getting the brass weight

[untold wigeon]

i do not know what the best plate is for the jades but i do have all of them

i will use carbon fiber or pc plate in the end tho

[willow bronze]

if you want a deeper sound get pc/pp/fr4

if u want clack get alu/cf

[untold wigeon]

fr4 is not rlly deep

[silver pecan]

is the stock wooting one trash

[median spade]

it's there

is the answer

[turbid karma]

I prefer stock over KBDFans fr4

[willow bronze]

its preference

[silver pecan]

tbh im not even gonna bother with that rn then

prolly just gonna slap on the brass weight and call it a day

[untold wigeon]

https://youtu.be/4bvLyb2HhrU?t=451 i marked it for you

[median spade]

i will say i have the pc, steel, carbon fiber, and fr4 one. The fr4 is probs the worst

[untold wigeon]

here is the sound test with the lekkers

on all plates

[median spade]

I have pom rn for my frog mini conversion but want to get a alu one probs

[silver pecan]

ah okay it makes a bit of a difference

honestly with the jades i feel like it wont do much at all

cause theres like no spring ping

[untold wigeon]

he concludes it right after the video

if anything it will make a bigger difference with the jades

[median spade]

the lekkers genuially just suck ass is the issue too with as even show in the video

[willow bronze]

bruh thats with lekkers, anything sounds ass with lekkers

[untold wigeon]

the differences in those sound tests were masked by the springy noise

[untold wigeon]

this is the best i can do

rn

nobody big actually reviewed jades on all plates

[median spade]

i just made l60 stem in raptors and now wanting jades

[silver pecan]

fuck so should i get theplate

[untold wigeon]

considering how the Geons are sold out everywhere and the jades are not it's clear most people went for those instead

[silver pecan]

i want thock fr

[median spade]

getting thock on hall effect

you are going to be in for rough time tbh

[untold wigeon]

the best config for deeper sound on this, is probably carbon fiber/pc plate, 2 layers tape mod and polyfill

[median spade]

I mean geon stuff sold out as geon is geon

[willow bronze]

pc is your best bet

[untold wigeon]

probably

you dont need to fuck with standoffs either

when i installed the standoffs on my fr4 plate i sliced all my fingers

[silver pecan]

where do i get that pc plate

[untold wigeon]

i didnt expect it to be this sharp

[untold wigeon]

on wooting site

[median spade]

sliced your fingers

[untold wigeon]

ye i was holding it by the edges and shit

then it kinda slid

and you know the next part

[median spade]

for tray mount stuff i think the pc plate was probs the best

[untold wigeon]

then after all of that i found out the stabs wont fit because the tolerances are too tight

[median spade]

fr4 was the worst imo

[untold wigeon]

now they are sending me a free carbon fiber plate

[silver pecan]

damn 53 cad for a pc plate with shipping

[median spade]

good

[silver pecan]

yall think its worth

[median spade]

carbon fiber better

[untold wigeon]

if you want deep

yes

[median spade]

hold on i have my sound test somwhere

[untold wigeon]

i have the pc plate right now

with the normal tray mount

it sounds sorta deep in most areas

[silver pecan]

do u think just getting the brass weight bar

is good enough

or do i have to get the pc plate too

[untold wigeon]

considering the shipping and taxes from kbdfans

[willow bronze]

plate has more impact than the weight

[untold wigeon]

you will pay more in shipping and taxes

than the weight

thats why i said buy both plates too

[median spade]

this was the lekkers

[silver pecan]

on the wooting site, its 53 cad for the plate

[willow bronze]

oh kbdfans its taxes, shipping + import

[median spade]

unless youre american

[willow bronze]

they ship from china

[untold wigeon]

if ur in the EU, u just paying shipping

[silver pecan]

im in canada

[untold wigeon]

then ur fucked either way

[median spade]

yeah lmao

gg

[willow bronze]

ye canadians pay import

[silver pecan]

i mean itd be cheaper from kdbfans

[untold wigeon]

@median spade also nice pfp 😳

[silver pecan]

because im getting the brass weight bar

[untold wigeon]

if u get it from kbdfans

get carbon fiber

[median spade]

[silver pecan]

but u think the pc plate from wooting is better>

[untold wigeon]

im not sure if its better im just saying its easier to install

as it comes with all the standoffs

[median spade]

i do think it's the best plate imo for tray mount options

[untold wigeon]

ordering just the pc plate is gonna be rough cost wise

[median spade]

haven't seen any alu ones but that would probably be my favorite if it existed

[willow bronze]

isnt stock wooting alu

[untold wigeon]

if you're going to order the brass weight just get the carbon fiber plate

too

[untold wigeon]

its fucking steel

[median spade]

yeah it's steel

[untold wigeon]

😏

[willow bronze]

damn steel plate actually cost more

[median spade]

the worst type of plate

[willow bronze]

[silver pecan]

is there a vid or something for kdbfans plate

[median spade]

we need to see someone use brass plate on wooting like the good old days

[willow bronze]

i ordered a custom steel plate for my norbauer hg and it cost me 100$ lol

[median spade]

norbauer tings

[untold wigeon]

i linked u the sound test

[silver pecan]

no for installation

cause like

[untold wigeon]

i dont think so

but its easy

[silver pecan]

they gimme standoffs and i just screw em on?

[untold wigeon]

you just screw in standoffs

yes

[median spade]

yeah

[untold wigeon]

it helps taking off the steel plate for guidance

where to put them and shit

[silver pecan]

is it like the same as screwing in the standoff for the screw near the spacebar

on tofu

[untold wigeon]

the kbdfans come with 2 extra standoffs you dont really need

[wet hazel]

Hey guys, bought the tofu60 redux on the Ali store because it was cheaper, but the order 'Expired' lmao

That means that I only have the option to refund?

[willow bronze]

seller didnt ship, so you get refunded

[silver pecan]

alr so its 88 cad for the brass weight and carbon fiber plate

better than 53 cad for the plate from wooting

[untold wigeon]

this is what i mean abt standoffs

[silver pecan]

i see