🔧│keyboard_modding

[untold wigeon]

wtf

[tawdry tree]

merde

[untold wigeon]

on hood?

[tawdry tree]

cuh

[untold wigeon]

i got the blicky

[tawdry tree]

why tf is there no good keyboard shop

in eu?

[untold wigeon]

i mean

there are

keychron.de is good

[tawdry tree]

That has something in stock

[untold wigeon]

nobody has keyboard shit in stock

ever

krytox 205g0 is sold out like crazy

now all the sudden everybody buys plate mount stabs

[tawdry tree]

On ali express a 10pack of raptors is €6

with €6 shipping

[untold wigeon]

LMAO?

wtf

[tawdry tree]

but I think if I buy it it will get lost

[untold wigeon]

thats a scam

kbdfans has raptors stocked

buy from there

[pale aspen]

rule of thumb always check ali first

[untold wigeon]

get urself an FR4 plate to justify the shipping

[tawdry tree]

how much is shipping?

[untold wigeon]

xDDDD

find out

[tawdry tree]

it’s on kbdfans ali store btw

[pale aspen]

usually chinese keyboard shop has alistore
kbdfans/gateron etc.

[tawdry tree]

not some random store

[untold wigeon]

just use kbdfans

site

i think a pack of 70 is 35 usd

[pale aspen]

use ali for lower shipping

potentionally no tax for some countries

[untold wigeon]

oh they ran out

who tf is buying all of these

[pale aspen]

chinese people, i saw a lot of review in bilibli

raptor and jade are king now

since ks20u OOS

[untold wigeon]

arent they like broke or smth

fucking hell

u can only get overpriced raptors on ali now

thats crazy

[tawdry tree]

70 piece for €60

[untold wigeon]

LOL

it was 34 at EQ and kbdfans

cmon bruh

shit the jades before VAT are cheaper

[pale aspen]

european tax

[quick gulch]

How much was geon selling raptors for?

[pale aspen]

0.46$ in usd

here is the real price (china)

[quick gulch]

Ah okay

[quick gulch]

Yea that’s what I got them for from tb

Much just be eu tax getting you

[pale aspen]

raptor stock seem dry on Taobao

[untold wigeon]

KS20U in stock on tao?

thats the dual rail one?

i know KS20T is the jade

[quick gulch]

Shit you’re right

They’re sold out of 70pc now

[untold wigeon]

lol

@tawdry tree

ur beloved switch is on tao

[tawdry tree]

ik

[pale aspen]

no

[untold wigeon]

it is tho

[tawdry tree]

already 4 days or somethibg

[tawdry tree]

it is

[untold wigeon]

he can look at it

[pale aspen]

Tomorrow 10AM china time

[untold wigeon]

tf does that mean

[quick gulch]

Wait they’re fkn 45 aud for 70 on tb

Didn’t even look at price when I bought

[pale aspen]

instock tomorrow

surpriase to use AU people order fromTaobao?

did you use reshipper?

[quick gulch]

Jyst convinced order with jades and looked at the total price

[pale aspen]

or direct shipping

[quick gulch]

Nah just order direct

It’s super easy

[pale aspen]

you are rich then

[quick gulch]

I know very little Chinese

I’ve heard reshipper is nice because they consolidate items but idc

[pale aspen]

Taobao is keeb paradise

clone is $20

[quick gulch]

Tb does that to I think but I don’t know how to get them to

Yea

Kb stuff is so nice

[crimson sky]

why go to the lengths of buying shitty clones at 20 dollars

when you can get actually decent keycaps for 25

[pale aspen]

air frieght?
becuase only truck is available for my country

[quick gulch]

^

[pale aspen]

$3 for 1kg

[quick gulch]

Ah yea air

[pale aspen]

well that are not exactly clone tho

[quick gulch]

Ships with ciao

[pale aspen]

color might but no novelties clone

[quick gulch]

Very quick takes 7-10 days to get to me

[pale aspen]

also i usually stick with XMI $17

[quick gulch]

Yea I’ve ordered xmi direct

It’s so much cheaper

The vendor here sells them for $100 I believe

It’s crazy stupid

Yea 105 aud

[pale aspen]

they gonna get profit somehow haha

[untold wigeon]

@quick gulch did u hear of these guys

[quick gulch]

Which is like nearly 10x

[pale aspen]

dot clone only $5

[untold wigeon]

my ali jades are shipping with that bitch

[pale aspen]

lmao

[crimson sky]

I did

kinda new service iirc

[untold wigeon]

i see

[pale aspen]

i feel bad for biip now

[quick gulch]

Yea they’re like the shipping company there

[crimson sky]

nothing super special about them

[quick gulch]

Nothing special

But no problems with them

[crimson sky]

basically yea

[tawdry tree]

your package is lost doc, I told u

[quick gulch]

Stuff comes really quick

[untold wigeon]

i dont need special but i hope no problems

[crimson sky]

they prob tend to be quicker than average

[untold wigeon]

thats good

[crimson sky]

I don't think I ever had a package get lost from china

[quick gulch]

It’s very good

[untold wigeon]

they do move faster than fedex i think

[pale aspen]

i only had problem during covid time

lockdown cuase package to stuck

but now it is fine

[quick gulch]

The issue isn’t in China

Like that’s the really quick part

It’s customs

Usually your local customs

My favourite part about ordering from tb

Is watching the little truck drive across China

[untold wigeon]

my local customs is annoying ye

[crimson sky]

tbh I rarely get that

[quick gulch]

It’s on every order for me haha

[crimson sky]

lol

[quick gulch]

Most be the shipping option I use

[crimson sky]

I mean for me it is typically something in the guandong/shenzhen area for like 2 days

[pale aspen]

oh, taobao have little map for tracking

[crimson sky]

then it going on a plane

and just going directly to frankfurt

[quick gulch]

Yea

[pale aspen]

i saw my package went to Warehouse that way

[crimson sky]

then to cologne for import

and then to me

[quick gulch]

Yea a little map

It’s so funny

[crimson sky]

all in total about 8 days

[untold wigeon]

well these guys have this

[crimson sky]

ah

I don't do taobao directly

[pale aspen]

ICBM shipping

[crimson sky]

since I use an agent

[quick gulch]

Little China man go broom broom

In the middle of the night

It’s very cute

I will admit the worst part are the recommended things

It’s nothing related to what I search

[quick gulch]

What agent do you use?

I know a lot of people use super buy I think that’s it’s called

[untold wigeon]

i go on the ali mobile app bruh and like holy shit

first there is an ad everytime u open it

[quick gulch]

Don’t start me

[untold wigeon]

then theres like fucking dildos lingerie and other stuff i wont mention

[quick gulch]

Yea

I don’t understand

At all

[untold wigeon]

like bruh i just made my acc and all my search history is gateron switches

ffs

[quick gulch]

But vapes are banned

Like yea that makes sense

[untold wigeon]

LOL?

[crimson sky]

ye I use superbuy

[untold wigeon]

i mean i dont like vaping or smoking

but wtf

[quick gulch]

If you try searching vape it comes up with a warning

[crimson sky]

has to do with export bans

[quick gulch]

But there’s still loads on there

Yea

I figured that part out

[crimson sky]

it's funny

aliexpress has user adjusted searches now

and all my search results no matter what are keyboard related items

[untold wigeon]

same

[quick gulch]

Like what even is this

[untold wigeon]

i hopped on rn and i saw shorts and a sex mouth piece or smth

💀

[rain peak]

does rapid trigger work if we dont use lekker switches?

[untold wigeon]

u can not use switches that arent KS20s or Lekkers on this

so it doesnt matter

[pale aspen]

lmao

i always get sport bra or legging too

[rain peak]

oh we cant put other type of switches on the 60HE?

[pale aspen]

[tawdry tree]

Only switches compatible with Wooting’s PCBA. Like the KS-20s, KS-20Us, Magnetic Jade Switches and Raptor HE Switches.

[untold wigeon]

why do people call it PCBA instead of PCB

[tawdry tree]

because it is a PCBA and not a PCB

[untold wigeon]

what does that mean

[tawdry tree]

a PCB doesn’t have HE sensors on them

[untold wigeon]

whats the A for

[tawdry tree]

assembly I believe

[untold wigeon]

it could mean analog too

[tawdry tree]

no

[untold wigeon]

u know what it doesnt mean tho?

u having an iq above 25

[tawdry tree]

It’s just a general term.

[tawdry tree]

I reported you to discord for bullying

and harassment

including the harassment of my mother.

[untold wigeon]

🤐

ight chill

this aint the place

[crimson sky]

bruh

does not mean analog

[untold wigeon]

ye i finally googled it

shortened it sounds so wrong

[crimson sky]

but you decided to call someone to be below 25 IQ when telling you what it means before

[tawdry tree]

😂😂😂😂😂

[untold wigeon]

it was a joke

💀

[tawdry tree]

no it wasnt

i am highly offended

mods!

[untold wigeon]

💀

[gloomy stratus]

does doing tape mod and foam affect keyboard performance?

[quick gulch]

Of course not

[craggy viper]

Only sound

[void hollow]

if you manage to fuck it up somehow then yes

[gleaming crane]

Has anyone used both the new magnetic jades and the raptor he’s? If so can you give me your thoughts on them?

[tawdry tree]

As someone who hasn’t used either; I can say that the people who have used both prefer the sound and quality of the Jade Switches over the Raptor HE Switches.

[pale aspen]

@glacial wind

there mght be hope for Neo HE switch

"Soon"

[tawdry tree]

Compatible with Wooting?

[untold wigeon]

dont be rude

[gleaming crane]

Even after franken switching the raptors snd lekkers?

[tawdry tree]

People who have stem swapped the Lekkers and the Raptors have said that there’s too much friction making them uncomfortable to use.

[gleaming crane]

Dang

Okay yea, ig jades are the way to go

[untold wigeon]

@tawdry tree go sleep

[tawdry tree]

I haven’t slept in 6 weeks, why’d I go to sleep now?

[untold wigeon]

cuz i say so

[tawdry tree]

you are not him kid

[untold wigeon]

i am

[void hollow]

im gonna tell you guys what i am

i am meow

[untold wigeon]

you are a weeb

[stark osprey]

What's the consensus on the Jade switches?

[glacial wind]

oh nice, those were the most unique sound so far

[obsidian dagger]

this cat'nt be real

[glacial wind]

they're good, although some may need long pole stabs depending on how tight your keycaps are/how much you press on sides

since jade travel is 3.5mm

[void hollow]

blink again and look at MEow

[obsidian dagger]

are you fur real

[untold wigeon]

i did and you are still a weeb

[stark osprey]

Apart from the less travel and actuation force, what do they offer vs L45s?

[untold wigeon]

better everything

[glacial wind]

tighter stem, sound better

[stark osprey]

hmm might have to look into that, although might be problematic with the keycaps I had in mind

[glacial wind]

most keycaps are generally fine, it's just if they're on the loose side

if you do run into issues you can always grab some long pole stabs, they're not super pricy

[untold wigeon]

changing stabs is very annoying

[stark osprey]

Im going to be installing CeraKeys, and they weigh alot more than the ABS/PBTs. I hear the L45 wont work with the spacebar, as it is too heavy/ will bottom out

[glacial wind]

jades would likely be too light for spacebar too

but you can get the spring pack when it's out

they didn't say how light the bottom out force was, but the starting force was similar to ks20, which would roughly mean around 50g bottom out

[stark osprey]

gotcha thanks for info

i may just stay with the L45s for now/ L60 for spacebar, and see how it sounds, ill keep the jades in mind though

[craggy viper]

I got used to it tbh

[glacial wind]

you're using cerakeys on jades?

[craggy viper]

Oh nvm

Creakeys suck on light switches

[glacial wind]

yeah cerakeys spacebar is so heavy

[craggy viper]

I think no lighter than. 50g tbh

For spring weight

[north mason]

Just got the confirmation email, keen bean

wooting 60he

[velvet egret]

My Raptors are in a baggy waiting for the module

Yeahhh i will spring swap them once module and L60 arrive

Since there is no indication on when the spring pack will be available for purchase

Springs are too light otherwise

I used to own a corsair K95 with speed switches i made so many mistakes with typing that within a month i bought a ducky keyboard with Silent Red switches, really enjoy these switches. so L60 are the closest to it

[limpid dock]

The l45 is faster bcuz it has lighter spring right?

[pale aspen]

no

[void hollow]

honestly

id rather spend money on jade switches than l45

[velvet egret]

^ That's because wooting keyboard is only calibrated to wooting switches aka the magnets

[limpid dock]

So why is l45 better than?

[pale aspen]

lekker is worst switch right now

sadly

[void hollow]

its up to personal preference tbh

[limpid dock]

Then whats the difference

[pale aspen]

where u locate

Taobao is your friend

[idle pier]

just the same but lighter, right?

[pale aspen]

what color u want?

lol that set is so old

[idle pier]

i meant compared to l60

[void hollow]

i don't got the balls to say something is way better

[idle pier]

idk its my first time doing smth custom, i ordered pcb with l45s i'll see if i wanna upgrade from that

but 20e for all the switches aint expensive at all compared to jades or raptors

[limpid dock]

So whats the best switches for 60he

[pale aspen]

is this what u want!

?

[void hollow]

it's pretty much based on personal preferences, but if you're here already in #🔧│keyboard_modding , i can only suggest the raptors or the jades.

raptors pretty much feel better than the lekkers, while jades sound the best amongst the HE switches for now.

[limpid dock]

Where u buy them

Alright

[void hollow]

you can probably find the switches on gateron's own website, kbdfans, taobao or aliexpress

[pale aspen]

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z0d.6639537

register taobao

[void hollow]

from what i've heard from here the past few weeks, taobao seems the cheapest yet

[pale aspen]

taobao ship directly Hong KOng

[void hollow]

0.48 usd?

lemme take a look

[dusky geyser]

how's the stem wobble on the jades?

[void hollow]

minimal-est

[dusky geyser]

heard theres basically no stem wobble with the raptors if u swap stems with l60s

ah

[void hollow]

then you get friction

[quick gulch]

stem wobble is fine honestly

housing wobble da big killer

[void hollow]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[void hollow]

can you check here for me @sacred elm

my net isnt loading it

[quick gulch]

Not sure if you ended up realising @craggy viper 【淘宝】<https://m.tb.cn/h.5L6UOKGsCyvvwtB?tk=fQdnW6tfKiG CZ0001>

[pale aspen]

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3-c.w4002-21455953994.17.4f314064wZqGMM&id=755913081817

[void hollow]

nope i was talking about jades haha

70 pack is 385cny for jades owo

[pale aspen]

i always hate when share taobao link from mobile lol
link is so cursed

[void hollow]

= 72sgd cad = 54 usd

[pale aspen]

there was

but OOS now

in both official resellers

[quick gulch]

yea there's a few vendors selling raptors on tb

[pale aspen]

hot piece i assume

[quick gulch]

but only 10 packs rn

doesn't really matter

but it's closed bottom

[void hollow]

i hate using taobao

[quick gulch]

that's the important part

idk why people say that

you legit pick the thing you want and press buy

and they ship it to your door

[pale aspen]

because in the west

they ban account easily

for us it is easy

also just use translate

[void hollow]

the problem is

[pale aspen]

but order in mobile is easy

[void hollow]

i am asian, i read chinese, but i suck at chinese

[quick gulch]

the app is 100x better than the website

just search

geon raptor switch

haha

[pale aspen]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

this

[quick gulch]

you have to put the letters in the search box

make words with them

then press enter

[void hollow]

no way! it's that simple?

[pale aspen]

34 vs 50 vs 55 RMB
for x10

Raptor is bang for buck

[void hollow]

55rmb is like 10sgd

[quick gulch]

cents?

like what currency

did you want to convert it to

$

[void hollow]

which dollar

[quick gulch]

which dollar bro

???

hahaha

[pale aspen]

0.46-47 USD

[void hollow]

LOL

[quick gulch]

no wonder you can't use taobao

[pale aspen]

correct price

are u american

[void hollow]

no wonder

[quick gulch]

can't you tell?

xd

yea real cheap

don't need to make a leaf I guess makes it cheaper

[pale aspen]

irony is i want to find spare Lekker
and they sell $1 each on Xianyu

second hand platform

lmao

wow it is big news

[void hollow]

im trying to sell my lekkers locally

[pale aspen]

same price across each reseller

in same country

[quick gulch]

alipay not needing a cn bank account is nice actually

[dusky geyser]

do jades work with stock wooting stabilizers

[void hollow]

why would they not work-

[dusky geyser]

idk i remember seeing something about needing longer stabs

[quick gulch]

but you could check out with any visa card before anyway I think

[dusky geyser]

could u elaborate

[pale aspen]

for me i would buy long pole stab

but for 99% of people

jus tuse it

[void hollow]

now you have my interest

[loud zephyr]

how is that even possible, no issues on mine; gmk spacebar fwiw

[pale aspen]

so keycap has reces stem

some*

[loud zephyr]

must be

[pale aspen]

think about

stab has length ror 4.0

switch travel on 3.5

[loud zephyr]

I'll have to try it out with the stock spacebar

[fierce void]

GMK spacebars are warped

[quick gulch]

nah abs doesn't warp often

[loud zephyr]

I've only ever experienced one warped sp and it wasn't gmk, so

not that gmk is immune

[fierce void]

GMK spacebars are warped very often

just saying

ive got like 20 sets Id know

[quick gulch]

not really

okay

[fierce void]

they do infact get warped often espesially the 7U

[quick gulch]

I've had 44 sets

and haven't got a singled warped bar

[fierce void]

I have 20 sets on hand

[quick gulch]

alogn with 2.5u kits

[fierce void]

and Ive had more

[quick gulch]

okay so unlucky

[fierce void]

yurp

[quick gulch]

your vendor should have replaced some

[fierce void]

they would not it was within standard

how do you not know this, modern day GMK is a joke espeially the 7U

constantly warped spacebars pisses me off

[pale aspen]

XMI is $17 has perfectly straight space and it is PBT

meanwhile GMK cant

sad

[fierce void]

Gmks aestehics are superior though

[loud zephyr]

of the countless builds I've watched on stream, I've yet to see a bent spacebar, gmk or otherwise

[fierce void]

and colors

[pale aspen]

mornal pbt dyesub set
6.25u is usually fine
7u has slightly bent

[fierce void]

I could sent a few rn

but like I said its mostly 7U

[pale aspen]

my mtnu 6.25u bend like banana lmao

[fierce void]

Im a 7U user

[pale aspen]

feel bad

[fierce void]

wooting is my only non 7U

[pale aspen]

same

[loud zephyr]

what context does this have to the guys spacebar not rebounding though

[pale aspen]

wooting and 7u is 0% chance

stab has length for 4.0
switch travel for 3.5

see saw

that is why long pole stab exist

plate mount lojg pole just release in July 2023

i remember search for it backj in Feb

nothing come up

[fierce void]

so the actuation is shorter? so the switches bottom out even faster

[pale aspen]

now tx has every range of stab

[pale aspen]

yes but technically

HE can adjust actuation point

[fierce void]

I was saying sometimes bent spacebars change stabs

[pale aspen]

correct

[fierce void]

so maybe thats why gmk but also gmk is cherry and wooting stock isnt

[pale aspen]

worst bend is stem twist tho which i never encounter (good for me)

in that video, it is due to switch and stab not keycap i supposed

[loud zephyr]

zero issues with the stock spacebar on jade switches on mine, is it possible the dude hasn't seated his stabs correctly

[fierce void]

I wonder if its the shorter profile of gmk cherry

[loud zephyr]

both gmk and wooting's spacebar are fine on mine

[fierce void]

Then I just assume its a matter of time

[pale aspen]

tolerance on each stab probably difference

[quick gulch]

^

[pale aspen]

same apply for switch

[quick gulch]

GMK stems are tight too

[loud zephyr]

worse comes to worse just use lekker's for the spacebar

[fierce void]

or buy the ap long stab

[loud zephyr]

i wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't pushed that switch all the way in

[loud zephyr]

yeah I'm just speed running some videos I've found, most seem to point to a warped spacebar

[crimson sky]

others are loose

GMK are cherry spec

[quick gulch]

ye

[untold wigeon]

100% his spacebar

he said the stock one is fine with the jade

that is why i said if you're gonna replace the stock caps spend money on actually good caps not cheap dogshit

[loud zephyr]

ok elitist, pipe it down

[untold wigeon]

its true tho

why would u downgrade keycaps for no reason

[loud zephyr]

i'm only pulling your leg

[untold wigeon]

you could pull me all day

i'd still ask for more

[pale aspen]

this is why only gmk stem crack on facebook group?

[loud zephyr]

[untold wigeon]

real

[crimson sky]

"on facebook group"

[untold wigeon]

pull me harder

nah im jk

[tawdry tree]

he isnt

fyi

[untold wigeon]

i am

[tawdry tree]

not

[untold wigeon]

stop trolling

i got the blicky ready

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-shy-kermit-terrified-scared-gif-17697469

[pale aspen]

well it is biggest community in my country

[crimson sky]

only times I have seen gmk caps cracking is with bad switches

aka like og kailh box

or cherry clears

cherry clears damage most caps btw

[pale aspen]

i see

[quick gulch]

ye clears are notorious for it

[pale aspen]

they probably use cherry

since guys who break stem

is rich dudes

TGR , F1 F2 Glare , Tomo

[quick gulch]

yea cherry clears

that's the switch

[crimson sky]

it is one singular cherry version lol

also sounds a lot like survivorship bias

[cyan summit]

[untold wigeon]

why is everyone making black tofus with black keycaps

stop copying my shit

[fierce void]

because yall basic

[untold wigeon]

you are a bum

[tawdry tree]

lil bro thinks he the only npc

[untold wigeon]

im the main character bruh

im the visionary

[tawdry tree]

thats what an npc would say

[untold wigeon]

keep talking shit

i got the blicky out on hood

[bronze grove]

https://tenor.com/view/ladies-relax-relax-take-it-easy-chill-be-cool-gif-15839617

[cyan summit]

I was thinking 3 months if I should make an all black or not what are you saying

[tawdry tree]

not the blicky

[untold wigeon]

truth

[untold wigeon]

i was just joking lmao

[cyan summit]

black is just simple and nothing can go wrong

[limpid dock]

Is the l45 worth it?

[void hollow]

meow

[cyan summit]

[untold wigeon]

very true

[untold wigeon]

wag wan

[cyan summit]

wooting discord duck avatar when??

[untold wigeon]

i got 2

want one?

[tawdry tree]

i got 3 bih

be queit

[fierce void]

duck keyboard?

If I was gonna make a black keeb for wooting it would be with GMK Katakana

[pale aspen]

probably bad stab too

[crimson sky]

?

uhh

only stabs I have seen crack caps were deskey ones

but those also didn't just gmk

[cyan summit]

no wooting discord avatar

its still a christmas theme

[fierce void]

wooting has a duck avatar?

[upbeat minnow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WootingKB/comments/18ych4k/magnetic_jade_switches_are/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

Got the new magnetic jade switches today

[cyan summit]

read my message again

[upbeat minnow]

Definitely worth buying

[fierce void]

ooohh salvation like me

[fierce void]

is that your vide

[upbeat minnow]

yep my vid, just got switches this morning

sound way better than lekker switches

[fierce void]

salvation also seems to be a hit or miss too

I got the blue one

with gmk striker on it

[fierce void]

the stock lekkers in my salvation sound so ass

[fierce void]

Look how much flex my salvation has with case foam and steel plate lmao

[quick gulch]

where's the flex though

[upbeat minnow]

Mines rock solid lol did you screw it in?

[fierce void]

yes

I dont want rock solid

[sand oasis]

anyone know why my tx stab gets douesnt bounce back on my space bar but works for the other stabs?

@fluid ravine pretty sure you had a similar issue how did you fix it?

[shell crown]

Are magnetic jades worth it?

[quick gulch]

if you're asking whether or not they improver performance. Then no they're not worth it at all.

Since they do nothing there, otherwise if they're worth it is up to you

[shell crown]

Nah I mean like, durability

I know they don't improve perf

[quick gulch]

They're not any more durable

[shell crown]

Also what is that thing in the stem the cutout

What's that for

[quick gulch]

what thing?

[shell crown]

Cutout

[pale aspen]

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a21n57.1.0.0.1b03523cQbzKtQ&id=758533694677&ns=1&abbucket=18#detail

cool case i accidently found on taobao

[shell crown]

no tb on phone sad

[pale aspen]

lol

[shell crown]

Ss?

eh

I mean it has place for the strap

[quick gulch]

idk

every switch has it

well most do

it's to sit in the stem a little better I think

not actually sure though

[shell crown]

I guess that has something to do with stiffness

This way it's less prone to getting stuck and breaking

[quick gulch]

I mean I guess

usually the notch is only on one of the shafts

but it's what ever

how come though?

[shell crown]

Day 100 of looking for someone willing to sell me 60HE stock case in EU

[quick gulch]

there's got to be someone selling a tofu no? Just grab that

salv might even be cheaper

[shell crown]

I want stock

[pale aspen]

xianyu

pepela

[quick gulch]

the plastic thing?

fair enough I gues

[shell crown]

Yes, custom paintjob

I got my 60he already

[quick gulch]

this is kinda cool honestly

[shell crown]

I mean I can do fjell custom paintjob I guess

[pale aspen]

price the same

tofu

[quick gulch]

I hate the strap thing, but honestly for most people I'd probably say that's better than the tofu

but I guess some people really like the tofu

idk why though xd

[shell crown]

I like the strap

It just makes it look cooler

[quick gulch]

to each their own

[pale aspen]

tofu it is like

they want to save cost on cnc too much

simple slope lol

[quick gulch]

yea it's all just straight lines

but that's what it's meant to be

[shell crown]

Yep

[shell crown]

Any reason why u don't like it?

[pale aspen]

i on the hunt for cheapo plastic 60% case

[quick gulch]

but then you get to the usb cuout and it's just out there and massive circle

I mean I just think the strap looks ugly and takcy

[shell crown]

If u find lmk I want custom paintjob

[quick gulch]

but if I was forced to use the stock board I'd probably use the strap

[shell crown]

Customize it?

[quick gulch]

because it looks stupid having the little thing on the side

[shell crown]

I have it customized

I mean it's smaller

[pale aspen]

[shell crown]

But looks nice

[quick gulch]

yea it just aint for me honestly

my board doesn't even have anywhere for a strap

looks so out of place I can't with that thing.

[shell crown]

You have wooting60?

[pale aspen]

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a21n57.1.0.0.1b03523cQbzKtQ&id=678378690847&ns=1&abbucket=18#detail

$5

[quick gulch]

actually it's fun to flick around. that's what I did with it for a while

[pale aspen]

this might be my budget wooting case

[shell crown]

Why u need budget?

[pale aspen]

might need to cut some part off

[shell crown]

MAN THAT LOOKS TERRIBLE

[pale aspen]

i will resell 60he+ module someday

[quick gulch]

that should be all the stand offs I think

[pale aspen]

i will move to venom tkl

[quick gulch]

just need geon to make a 60% with jst support

[shell crown]

Venom tkl? Also HE?

[quick gulch]

after the venom

then we're living the dream and I can swap my khajit

[pale aspen]

same

[quick gulch]

that's be the day I put the wooting away

[pale aspen]

if their software good
bye bye wooting for me

[shell crown]

Wooting software is also good

[quick gulch]

yea the venom is he compat

that's the real saving grace honestly. the software is the best

for now I guess

[shell crown]

Yep

Venom is what exactly?

[quick gulch]

pcb

[shell crown]

Have left keyboard side of internet due to moneysink

[quick gulch]

based on h88

[shell crown]

Link?

[quick gulch]

there isn't one

[shell crown]

What company?

[quick gulch]

there's some pics of it on tb if you look up geon's raptor switch

geonworks

[shell crown]

Ah geonworks

[quick gulch]

this is like the only picture we have

but not like we really need pictures anyway

it's a h88

[shell crown]

Ye ye

Depending on the software might switch

Still looking for 60+% HE keeb

That I like the look of

[quick gulch]

Yea sucks

But the list of options is growing

Which is good

[shell crown]

Yep

For now wooting it iz

[quick gulch]

I just mean for cases

When it comes to boards

The rest might as well not exist honestly

[pallid echo]

i wish there was a aluminum design of the stock case

[quick gulch]

Is the alumaze not 99% of the way there ?

[pallid echo]

it doesn’t have that lil slamt at the front i believe

i love that part for design

[shell crown]

Yes

[quick gulch]

Ah the little cherry lip

[shell crown]

I love it for customizing

[quick gulch]

The rest of the case ain’t it though

The whack as slanted sides

And strange wrap

[shell crown]

Lol

[quick gulch]

But tbf

[shell crown]

I keep mine stock but am looking for one to fix w epoxy and custom paintjob

[quick gulch]

It’s a nice plastic assembly

For what it is

[pallid echo]

yes painting it is the way

i just got done painting mine white

[shell crown]

Handpaint or?

[pallid echo]

spray paint

[tame garnet]

What switches are good for 60he?

[shell crown]

I plan to do custom paintjobs like I do my mice

[pallid echo]

i took it inside to dry

[shell crown]

Stock

[tame garnet]

Idk anything about switches

What is that

[shell crown]

HE switches are not same as others

[quick gulch]

You have like 3 options for he switches atm and nothing else

[pallid echo]

magnetic jade switches are popular rn but i would wait bc i bet a lot of switches will be releasing later this year

[quick gulch]

If you’re buying the module from wooting just get the switches they’re offering, they’re discounted rn iirc

[tame garnet]

So the switches that come on the keyboard are the best for it

[shell crown]

They are all good just the same (almost), mainly the difference in force needed to press but default should be good

For me yes

I tried 4 different ones

2 gateron and 2 wooting, stock best

[tame garnet]

So you say when my keyboard comes keep the ones with that

[shell crown]

I did

[tame garnet]

Sounds good

I just Hurd people say they suck so idk what to believe yk

[quick gulch]

Wdym just spring swap if you don’t like the weight

[shell crown]

It's not same science as it is with other types of keyboards, you choose your actuation point

Also that yes

[tame garnet]

Ahh

[quick gulch]

I fkn hate lekkers they sound garbage

[shell crown]

Which ones are you on?

[quick gulch]

Lekkers

[shell crown]

Lol

I sound modded em

Dampened it a bit

Was terrible

[quick gulch]

With what?

[tame garnet]

How do people make there keyboard sound so good then

Is it just not possible with the Wooting 60he

[quick gulch]

Just waiting for my raptors and jades to come sometime next week and hopefully they’re better, or at least that’s what everyone’s hyping about

[shell crown]

Raptors from?

[quick gulch]

Geon

[shell crown]

Ah

[tame garnet]

^

[quick gulch]

Look I’d suggest doing a bit of research about the 60he and you’ll understand the situation a lot better

[tame garnet]

Sounds good thanks much

[shell crown]

Sold out for me sadly

(EU)

[quick gulch]

There’s very limited options at the moment when it comes to switches and almost all are out of stock rn

Yea

[shell crown]

Sadly yes

I mean jades should be okay

They sound a bit better

i customized bottom of all my switches

I mean inside part

[quick gulch]

Think I might lean towards raptors but I hope I like jades

[shell crown]

But took me 3 tries

Any sound tests?

[grizzled mulch]

ks-20 if u want lower bottom force

[quick gulch]

There’s a few in here

[shell crown]

They are very wobbly

[quick gulch]

And a lot on YouTube

[grizzled mulch]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[grizzled mulch]

it might come out rly soon actually

like a week or two if i remember correctly

[quick gulch]

Yea well we have 31st on the sheet

[shell crown]

Yep

[quick gulch]

Ima be jumping on it like everyone else but

[grizzled mulch]

i also recently designed a tkl HE for my keyboard

[quick gulch]

It kinda sucks because I want to know the stand off points so a can get a plate made before cny

[shell crown]

Jades sound eh

[shell crown]

I have been workjng on that, waiting for moonboard tho

[grizzled mulch]

ohhh

ure there too

XD

[shell crown]

Yes lol

I asked you for those case files u cannot give away

[grizzled mulch]

right

[shell crown]

[grizzled mulch]

i remember

[shell crown]

Used

[grizzled mulch]

i probably will design something in my own

[shell crown]

used em?

[quick gulch]

Moon board?

[grizzled mulch]

a open source 75% he keyboard

[shell crown]

Something a guy is making, basically OS budget 75% HE

[quick gulch]

Yea a lot of people are getting at over he pcbs

[shell crown]

I have made my own 4x5 before

[quick gulch]

So there’s going to be a load of options soon

[grizzled mulch]

im done with mine, waiting to fix my bom

then i will send to jlc

[shell crown]

I made 4x5 and waiting for moonboard to use his files to make something of mine

Tho I wish he made it in altium

But kicad works

[shell crown]

Custom pcb is best IMO, you can really do wonders

[quick gulch]

Yea I just cba rn

[shell crown]

Jades sound terrible IMO

[quick gulch]

Like dealing with software

[grizzled mulch]

nice

[shell crown]

That's the easy part IMO

[grizzled mulch]

i recently changed mcu

to f303

[shell crown]

Nice

[quick gulch]

I just haven’t looked at it at all

[grizzled mulch]

and i rerouted a bit of everything

to make it better

hopefully, it will be ok

[shell crown]

I reroute 5-10 times lol

[grizzled mulch]

especially the usb

dude the usb is so fuckin annoying

[quick gulch]

Always rerouting

[shell crown]

Custom case or standard?

[quick gulch]

USB traces are the worst

[grizzled mulch]

soooo i wanted to support various tkl keyboards that used daughterboard

but honestly

if ppl want to use it for their keyboard

[shell crown]

Ah, good luck w that

[quick gulch]

That’s not worth it

[grizzled mulch]

they can do it on their own

[quick gulch]

^

[grizzled mulch]

so i removed everything about the daughterboard and just supported my keyboard

[shell crown]

I have always had a friend resin me a case I designed and then I just paint over it

It's a big hassle imo

To make one fit all

[grizzled mulch]

yeah

i was trying to be make something that maybe wouldve been ok for everyone but im like

"im not even getting paid to do this"

[shell crown]

Yeah

Rephlex is doing it nice but he's not alone adaik

afaik

[grizzled mulch]

yeah he's not

[quick gulch]

You should put your files on gh so people can make their own

[grizzled mulch]

it's on GH already

[quick gulch]

😮

Where link

Unless you mean da moon

[grizzled mulch]

https://github.com/mhdimo/KBD8X-MKII-HE

it's bottom row tsangan tho

i mainly support WKL

[quick gulch]

Well

The correct layout

But that’s what ever anyway I wanted to take a look so I could get a 60 made

[grizzled mulch]

though i want to change this name

cuz it doesn't really have anything from kbd8x nowadays

[shell crown]

LOL

[grizzled mulch]

like

[shell crown]

Ah you wanted the case?

[grizzled mulch]

it can support the case

but the pcb

is not anymore using any assets from the main project

[quick gulch]

That’s more than enough honestly

[grizzled mulch]

inb4 i will call it Edge8xHE

(sarcasm)

no but in reality i likeda name a friend suggested me

if i remember correctly the name is arius

[shell crown]

U have KBD8X?

[grizzled mulch]

yea

[shell crown]

Ah okay

MK2 ye ye makes sense

MK3 much cleaner

Also ANSI EW

[grizzled mulch]

i have to tell you that

iso is probably better

but like

i cant stand the left shift row being small

[shell crown]

SMH

All the same IMO

[gaunt linden]

Is switch tape mod for sound and stem woble or just for sound?

[shell crown]

ISO better 100%

[shell crown]

Switch tape?

Ah that, sound

It's custom new thing that that dude here found ye

[grizzled mulch]

ehhh

[gaunt linden]

Sound good thank you

[shell crown]

Too much of a hassle if u ask me

[pale aspen]

on gh

it is for making pcb?

[shell crown]

Yes

That is PCB

[pallid echo]

anyone know any cases with this color effect?

[pale aspen]

ok

gb when

[shell crown]

Just look up anodized rainbow

[grizzled mulch]

my link contains kicas file of my HE pcb

[shell crown]

Oil slick is the name of the finish

[pallid echo]

i’ll try searching around

thank u

if only the fjell had a option like that

[bitter valve]

Any suggestions on the keycaps for grey tofu case setup? Got a random set from Amazon - OEM, doubleshot PBT, shine through, but open for suggestions as I’m not familiar with the keycaps world

[pallid echo]

what’s the price range u are looking at rn?

[bitter valve]

Open to anything reasonable, preferably less than $150 - $200

[pallid echo]

this gmk honor dark kit is on sale on novelkeys for $100

i was going to get it for a black case but it’s more of a gray color in the pictures i saw

[bitter valve]

Beautiful set, worth consideration for sure, but shine through is preferred, due to working in the dark, and I can’t touch type because English is not my native.

[spice steeple]

Anyone recommend any two-tone navy (dark blue) keycaps.. (ISO UK)

[quick gulch]

There aren’t many shine through options honestly maybe dmk ghost ?

Ghost is like a blueish grey

But I guess they’re not really true shine through

Idk just go get a set off drop or stick to your oem set

There are like no shine through sets, they’re just not popular

I guess razer make some maybe akko

Or you could just learn to touch type and use any set

[bitter valve]

Thanks, looks interesting also, but idk how I feel about ABS. To be fair, never used a good set of them.

[bitter valve]

Will check out Akko also, forgot about them, thank you for reminding!

[bitter valve]

Hahaha, yeah, that would be ideal, but some habits are harder to overcome, I guess.

[quick gulch]

Maybe deep navy?

[spice steeple]

Yea.. my pc theme is dr who..

[quick gulch]

Yea there ain’t no tardis blue set

But the closest you’ll get is deep navy I reckon

[spice steeple]

Looks cool, but something that uses 2 colours at least would be great

[gaunt linden]

Should any OEM keycaps work good with jades?

So it doesnt have problems with the stabs

[quick gulch]

It comes with white accents in the base kit but you’ll probably have to do some more digging to find blue on blue

Send pic on set up

[spice steeple]

I'll have a look.. do you have a link to the set?

[quick gulch]

🙏

It’s gmk deep navy I think it’s out of stock most places so you’ll probably have to get some clones

https://cannonkeys.com/products/gmk-deep-navy

This is the set

Should be some on ali

Is everything you own just blue then?

[spice steeple]

Give me a mo and I post a pic

[crimson sky]

[spice steeple]

@quick gulch

[crimson sky]

As if clones would actually try to represent the color of the original set

Can recommend dcs soldark, but might be too colorful for you

[spice steeple]

Sweet.. might be a case of 'first in stock' lol

[quick gulch]

That’s true but blue on blue is like impossible to going anywhere

[gaunt linden]

@fluid ravine what plate are you using? PC?

[crimson sky]

Got my set aftermarket for a good price

DCS dounds quite different tho

[quick gulch]

Das cute

With the cyber man

Wait they made a dcs soldark

[spice steeple]

Lol.. a little sad for a 40 year old though 🤣

[crimson sky]

Yes

[quick gulch]

Aye 1-13 go

Bros gonna say 4 I reckon

[quick gulch]

Aye we like what we like it is what it is

Should paint the pc blue though

[spice steeple]

Not sure I have the bottle, but if I can find a blue well ventilated case to mod later.. might do that.

[quick gulch]

You still gotta pick a number

[spice steeple]

I don't understand.. number?

[quick gulch]

Favourite number from 1 to 13

[spice steeple]

Ahh.. Well I'm a bit of an OCD, so I usually pick 8

[quick gulch]

Aye nah

Ain’t no one pick 8

Stop da cap

[gaunt linden]

Would stock plate with gummy o ring in a tofu redux sound better than pc plate ?

[crimson sky]

[quick gulch]

Paul mcgann was ight but like I wouldn’t put him up there and he’s in just one movie

[spice steeple]

Then the alternative is 4.. but I prefer 8 as its the only positive Fibonacci number (I mentioned ocd lol)

[quick gulch]

Fair enough 🙏

Everyone do be loving 4

[gleaming crane]

Is there any way to get rid of key wobble after getting the jades without replacing the stabs?

[quick gulch]

Even though I’ve never seen an episode with baker

Is there wobble on just your stabs?

[gleaming crane]

I don’t have them yet but I do have an order, I’ve been seeing people complain about it’s key wobble because it bottoms out sooner than the lekkers

[halcyon obsidian]

I believe the switches don’t have much wobble, I think the issue you are thinking of is the stabilizers having a 4mm distance of travel and the switch having 3.5mm so on the stabilizers you can push it down a little further than the switch can go

And I wouldn’t worry about this issue until you have them

[gaunt linden]

Key wobble =keycap?

[gleaming crane]

Hm, I did the bandaid mod on my pcb a while back so hopefully that helps but ig if it’s minimal I don’t think I’d mind

[halcyon obsidian]

No key wobble happens because of stem having room to move in the housing

[halcyon obsidian]

Really what’s happening in that video is he is using stock rgb keycaps which don’t usually have the best tolerances and when he is pushing straight down on the stabilizer because it can go 0.5mm further than the switch it is popping the keycap out the other side

Fixes: if your keycaps are tight on the stem it just won’t pop out or it will take more force

You can add material under the stems to reduce the overall distance traveled

Or you can get long pole stabilizers

[gaunt linden]

A okay gotcha

[gleaming crane]

Ooo okay, that’s good to hear, I was thinking of this solution as well just wasn’t sure if it’d work, but I think my key caps are tight enough

[median spade]

Got wooting into frog mini

Kind of was not worth it

oh well

[pale aspen]

how

it is ultimate clacky

with top mount feeling

(tadpole which is plastic screw equalvalent)

[gaunt linden]

WOB or BOW?