🔧│keyboard_modding

[shell geode]

But if that Wooting order did deliver on the 9th tho, hahaha

[untold wigeon]

considering the alumaze delay

it will get delayed even more than this

thats my bet

[tawdry tree]

how much we betting?

[untold wigeon]

last time it was 3 weeks

but tbh i dont really give a fuck

[shell geode]

Oh, there's an Alumaze delay? Does no one have their Alumaze yet?

[untold wigeon]

i already have the OG 60 HE in a tofu

[untold wigeon]

they do

but it was delayed

[shell geode]

I see

[untold wigeon]

i was supposed to receive mine end of october but received it 1 week before end of november

[shell geode]

You have two 60HEs??

[untold wigeon]

used it for 3 weeks then ordered the tofu

[untold wigeon]

yah

[shell geode]

Or getting two?

[untold wigeon]

yes

[shell geode]

$$$

[pale aspen]

at least it is first world country

[tawdry tree]

$$$

[untold wigeon]

they are relatively cheap compared to watercooling shit

so i think it's fine

[pale aspen]

here if you order keyboard + with deskmat

[untold wigeon]

i'll sell one then buy 1 or 2 gmk sets

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/sosherlock-copium-gif-26062107

[pale aspen]

you got 20% +7%

because custom use highest item for all item

[untold wigeon]

wheres the gummy o ring tutorial u promised

[tawdry tree]

wtf

[untold wigeon]

pussy

[tawdry tree]

I sent to tirade

in dm

[untold wigeon]

sure sure

[untold wigeon]

fake

[tawdry tree]

suck me

[untold wigeon]

old ass phone too

[tawdry tree]

this phone

is from 8 years ago

something

[untold wigeon]

really?

[tawdry tree]

no 7

yes

real

[untold wigeon]

is it an iPhone X?

[tawdry tree]

iphone 10

yessir

[untold wigeon]

LOL

i had one of those

my god was it shit

[tawdry tree]

fr

[untold wigeon]

the face id was so slow too

battery sucks

went back to the 8+

[tawdry tree]

lmfao

i hate face id

[untold wigeon]

it was so small too

face id works flawlessly now

[tawdry tree]

touch id > any

[untold wigeon]

they fixed it with the iPhone XS

[tawdry tree]

it does if u lookibg at the screen

[untold wigeon]

????

[tawdry tree]

I have it

[untold wigeon]

where would you look

then

[tawdry tree]

I never look

at the screen

[untold wigeon]

what the fuck

[tawdry tree]

when unlockiny

[untold wigeon]

why

[tawdry tree]

yes idk bro

I just use passcode

idk

[untold wigeon]

this guy actually needs to be studied

[tawdry tree]

I want touch id back so bad

[untold wigeon]

also why are you not sleeping

[tawdry tree]

who tf needs sleep?

[untold wigeon]

well i did stay up for 36 hours yesterday so i guess you are kinda right

[tawdry tree]

you are actually unheathly

I don’t sleep because I don’t need sleep

you do

[untold wigeon]

does ur ship with this too?

[tawdry tree]

and u ignore it

[tawdry tree]

that is not even a real shipping service bro

[untold wigeon]

i never in my fucking life heard of it

apparently it is

[tawdry tree]

you’ll prob just receive a rock in a box instead of ur switches

[tawdry tree]

Jack Ma is a legend

[untold wigeon]

jack ma?

who is jack ma bro

[tawdry tree]

jack ma balls

[untold wigeon]

good

you are not braindead

[tawdry tree]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[untold wigeon]

😏

[tawdry tree]

what u mean by that? 🤨

[untold wigeon]

check ur dm

LMAO

[untold wigeon]

fuck around n find out

[shell geode]

Oh hm, not sure, they didn't specify which vendor they are using

[untold wigeon]

welp gg then

[wet hazel]

50g of polyfill would be more than enough for the keyboard, right? They sold packages of 1kg and even more

[glacial wind]

did neo say when their switch is coming out @pale aspen

[pale aspen]

nothing

i assume they probably has C&D letter from Gateron

gateron reigister Patent "close the bottom" on Jade

Neo switch seem to use this method too

but thier HE PCB will come out later

[glacial wind]

too bad, their switch was actually the most unique sounding he so far

[livid gull]

Are there sound test for these: Gateron KS-20, Gateron Magnetic Orange, Gateron magnetic jade, Wooting L45, Raptor HE

[sand oasis]

Yeh have a look on YouTube

And search them in here and there a bunch

[cloud vector]

I’m extremely confused rn. Watched a modding video for the 60HE and dude swapped the switches for gateron orange. Is this a thing? Does the rapid trigger still work that way?

[crimson sky]

Yes

Lekkers are also ks-20

They use the exact same magnet

[cloud vector]

[livid gull]

So all magnetic switches have rapit trigger and 0.1mm actuation?

[bronze grove]

Not all

Depends on how they're made and their travel time et cetera.

The specs of the magnet and such need to be similar enough to our Lekker, for the sensors to still work optimally.

[livid gull]

Interesting

Im trying to well mod my wooting to endgame what do you guys think off these optimizations i am planing to do (didnt decide on the switch yet): Wooting 60HE mods

Keycaps: https://drop.com/buy/drop-matt3o-mt3-dev-tty-keycap-set?defaultSelectionIds=962043

Stabs: Durock plate mount: https://keygem.com/products/durock-plate-mount-stabilizer?variant=42038545285373, Housing: (lubed with Krytox 205g0), Wire: (lubed with dielectric grease) and holee moded

Switches: Gateron KS-20, Gateron Magnetic Orange, Gateron magnetic jade, Wooting L45, Raptor HE, housing lubed, spring lubed (both lubed with: TriboSys 3204)

Pcb: pom plate from: https://smkeyboards.com/products/wooting-60he-plate?variant=43923321553143, tape mod 2x: painters tape, burger mount: https://www.amazon.de/-/en/dp/B08H4DTSFM

Case: case foam (stock), Tofu60 Redux with brass weight: https://kbdfans.com/products/tofu60-redux-case?variant=41478178898059

(Made by: Sami)

[granite mist]

I would recommend just starting with case and plate. Then move from there based on what you want to do. Stock stabs are prety good, I just relubed them. I picked up the tofu60 redux case and wooting pc plate. Thinking of getting gateron jade switches hoping for tighter tolerences.

I also did buy orings but didn't try them yet

[untold wigeon]

Gateron MagneticJade, if you are gonna buy an aftermarket plate(do FR4 for Raptor HE, Carbon Fiber for Jades) otherwise get the PC plate, tofu redux with brass weight and those MT3 keycaps are quite tall and not optimal for gaming imo@livid gull

[livid gull]

Oh alr

[untold wigeon]

the switch will make the biggest difference in sound

[livid gull]

Alr i think a pom plate is the best for the lekker l60 but if you think that carbon fiber is optimal for the jade’s i trust🙏

[untold wigeon]

the lekkers sound so shit the plate barely makes a difference

and there is no point buying seperate plate and pay shipping

get Carbon Fiber with Jades or FR4 with Raptor HE switches from kbdfans

with your tofu

as for the stabs if the stock wooting ones do not rattle do not change them

you might create more problems than you fix

those MT3 keycaps are great for typing but for gaming they are not as good, I'd recommend you try Drop DCX/GMK/pbtfans(from kbdfans)

[livid gull]

Yk these 2 plates are not the only 2 options just bc they are stated at the rudux case take a look at this website instead: https://smkeyboards.com/products/wooting-60he-plate?variant=43923321553143

[untold wigeon]

i know

but there is no point paying shipping from another store

for such a small difference

either get the kbdfans plates or the official wooting pc plate

[livid gull]

My goal isnt to create the cheapest wooting mod but the best

[untold wigeon]

its not about cheap

it makes no sense and no difference

[livid gull]

I know

[untold wigeon]

the best thing for sound you can do to this is like this:

[livid gull]

But i am ready to pay the shiping for a sound making difference “better” plate

[untold wigeon]

Tofu60 Redux/Salvation
for tofu gummy o ring mount
PC Plate/FR4/Carbon Fiber
Magnetic Jade/Raptor HE switches

the lekker switches sound like trash even lubed

[livid gull]

To decide between these two switches does anybody know which has lower g’s on the spring?

[untold wigeon]

i think the Jade

[tawdry tree]

😂

[untold wigeon]

i'd say it's a bit too light

[tawdry tree]

Why’d you think that?

[untold wigeon]

i dont know maybe because their site says 30 +/- 7g for operation force

this is the raptors

[bronze grove]

A little self research isn't forbidden. They all have charts and specs you can easily compare against each other 😛

[untold wigeon]

that too

[tawdry tree]

Did you ask anyone who has them?

[untold wigeon]

did you?

[tawdry tree]

Did I orderthem?

[untold wigeon]

no

[tawdry tree]

Exactly, did you ask?

[untold wigeon]

you chose to order a full keyboard to pull switches from it, then find out that they dont work on this

💀

[tawdry tree]

This was unnecessary.

[livid gull]

I am afraid i cant find out the grams on the gateron magnetic jade since i live in eu and cant reach theire website

[untold wigeon]

i live in the eu too

[tawdry tree]

Gateron.com

[livid gull]

Wait

Nvm

[tawdry tree]

You gotta type it

[livid gull]

It just took long

[untold wigeon]

they only list this which is weird

[tawdry tree]

It doesn’t show on google

[untold wigeon]

i dont understand why they say + and - 7

[glacial wind]

Why is anom so against the jades lol

[tawdry tree]

23-37 🤣

[untold wigeon]

ye i dont get it

23 grams would be literally unusable

[tawdry tree]

I’m not at all

[livid gull]

Wait

So

The jades are lighter

[tawdry tree]

You have the jades?

[untold wigeon]

i think they most likely are

[tawdry tree]

Yes well, The site says so

but that gotta be 🧢

[glacial wind]

Nah I’m on raptors so no need yet until 80he

[untold wigeon]

@livid gull also what sound are you looking for?

[tawdry tree]

you know the force required?

[untold wigeon]

more deep or clacky

that is very important

[livid gull]

Wait i have a issue with these they have 0.2 mm actuation instead of 0.1

[glacial wind]

Aren’t they lighter similar to raptors and ks20?

[tawdry tree]

It says 23-37g on gateron’s site which is insanity, obviously

[untold wigeon]

i don't think that is a realistic difference

[livid gull]

More like a deeper sound not clicky or high pitched something like: https://youtu.be/sVInBOLSqoM?si=E_bs2-aLnwAYmIEZ

[glacial wind]

Starting force is very different from bottom out

[tawdry tree]

Jade’s have a travel distance of 3.5mm instead of the full 4mm. But .1 still works fine afaik.

[untold wigeon]

then definitely pc plate(wooting)/carbon fiber(kbdfans) and jades

[tawdry tree]

It’s 30g +/-7g that’s the thing. Not about the bottom out force

[untold wigeon]

if the starting force is 23 grams that will be a massive issue for me

[livid gull]

So they do support 0.1 mm actuation why do they state 0.2 on the website wierd.

[untold wigeon]

i mean can u tell .1mms?

[tawdry tree]

Afaik they do, no one here complained about it so idk

[tawdry tree]

yes

[untold wigeon]

right

[tawdry tree]

one will activate if you wiggle the switch and the other will not

[untold wigeon]

i have mine set at 0.3

0.1 is way too unreasonable

[tawdry tree]

It is, nobody actually uses it I think

[livid gull]

I probably couldn’t while gaming but it would make a difference and could lead to a compatitive slight disadvantage against the 0.1mm actuation

[untold wigeon]

i dont think .1mms will be what wins you a match

[tawdry tree]

you doubting him?

[livid gull]

I find 0.1 especially important on the wdas keys

[untold wigeon]

well i mean it on those ye

[glacial wind]

The ks20u list the same starting force

[untold wigeon]

0.1 is very unreasonable

[livid gull]

Not winning maybe but difference making even if slight

[untold wigeon]

well lets put it like this

[tawdry tree]

ks-20Us are back on Gateron’s site again?!

[glacial wind]

Nah I’m on taobao

[untold wigeon]

I'd rather the .1mm loss but gain a massive sound boost for the switch

the lekker even lubed sounds like shit

[livid gull]

Well while gaming a „sound boost“ wont give you a adventage it will just well.. make it sound better

[untold wigeon]

well its you that said you want to make the best wooting 60 he

and want a deeper sound

the lekker is very clacky

[tawdry tree]

Could you ss the ks-20u specifications? I can’t enter taobao

[livid gull]

If you like a keyboard that „sounds good“ I wouldn’t go for the wooting in the first place most people just buy it because off their impressive technology that gives you this advantage in the first place

[untold wigeon]

well now you can have both

[livid gull]

Well i am convinced the wooting wont ever be able to sound as good as a well made custom keyboard

[untold wigeon]

it can get extremely close

[bronze grove]

True. Different focuses at the end of the day.

[tawdry tree]

Why don’t you buy the module, get the keycaps you like, get the raptors, get the redux and be done with it?

[bronze grove]

We make keyboards for the masses, not the few. And we will never match a custom keyboard that costs twice as much with mods and lots of time spent tweaking things.

But we can get pretty close at this point.

Yeah and the module definitely helps as well.

[livid gull]

Thats true but the main buying point are the performance on the keyboard tho i also dont find the sound as bad

[tawdry tree]

Stock, no. With customization I think HE can get to the level of the best of the best but switches are still the problem.

[untold wigeon]

we do have 2 very good switches now

[tawdry tree]

I pinged stafff fuck 😬😬😬😬😬

[tawdry tree]

2 decent switches*

yes!

[untold wigeon]

why u always hatin on them lmao

that duck better deliver my keyboard

[tawdry tree]

just because we come from bad switches that doesn’t make the next best thing good

[untold wigeon]

?

[tawdry tree]

lekkers

[untold wigeon]

i think you need to sleep

[tawdry tree]

you more

[untold wigeon]

i woke up at 3 am

its barely 3pm

[tawdry tree]

I woke up yesterday

it’s hardly tomorrow

[untold wigeon]

im the grindfather tho

[glacial wind]

@tawdry tree

[untold wigeon]

same shit

i still do not get the 30+/- 7

[glacial wind]

They mean starting actuation

So expect something like 50g or so bottom out

[untold wigeon]

good

[tawdry tree]

oh thanks, I used vpn to get on it lmao

that site is nearly unusable

[wet hazel]

I bought things from taobao in the past, using agents that that communicate in english

[crimson sky]

yea but browsing on something like superbuy is basically impossible

[glacial wind]

The whole taobao process is fun because you’re guessing if you did it right the entire time

[crimson sky]

eh

not really

[tawdry tree]

I don’t understand why KS-20Us are on it but not KS-37Bs which were released earlier.

[glacial wind]

I still have no idea if my address is entered the way they want

I hope it is though

[crimson sky]

wdym

[crimson sky]

wait

[tawdry tree]

You ordered the KS-20Us?

[crimson sky]

did you buy directly from taobao

[glacial wind]

Yeah they sell directly to kr

[tawdry tree]

KS-37B magnetic switch.

[crimson sky]

ah

[untold wigeon]

now picture that the jade is also called KS-20 too

these names are so impressive

[crimson sky]

he meant that ks-37b released before ks-20u

yet they list ks-20us

[untold wigeon]

yeah ik im just saying

[crimson sky]

but not ks-37b

[untold wigeon]

these names need to be fixed

its just a general rant

[crimson sky]

why

[tawdry tree]

gatorade can suck me

they listed both on their site

[crimson sky]

those names are better than most keyboard switch names

[tawdry tree]

then removed them

[untold wigeon]

because they have KS-20 for like 4 switches that are very different

[crimson sky]

no

[untold wigeon]

xD?

[crimson sky]

most variations aren't just a ks-20

[wet hazel]

Why? 💀

[tawdry tree]

there is logic behind the chaos

[crimson sky]

dual rail is ks-20u, closed bottoms are ks-20t

[tawdry tree]

nobody knows, even gateron doesn’t know

Could you order from taobao if you’re from europe?

[crimson sky]

with an agent

[tawdry tree]

Is that hard?

[crimson sky]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bcJk5qE1jgwdBjeXSPYOETXIrJMdZbO3QTsZoRxrO0E/edit

not really, no

[tawdry tree]

you just pulled a great fucking guide out of your pocket

legend

thanks!

[crimson sky]

also a (somewhat outdated) list with links and helpful terms https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vdx2WvSf5poYP8fOtNXgpjRVuh77yGvZk7RKhsj3p7E/edit#gid=335037316

[crisp jasper]

do i need normal or long pole tx ap stabs if i use raptor he switches

[glacial wind]

normal

[crisp jasper]

ty

[crimson sky]

for the regular 60he you will need tx plate mounts

long pole version is only compatible with the 60he+ to begin with

[crisp jasper]

its the he+ im grabbing

[tawdry tree]

you don’t need longpole stabs with raptor or ks-20/lekkers

[untold wigeon]

funnily enough i did see a guy on reddit complain about stabs not working with the Jades so you might need them there

https://www.reddit.com/r/WootingKB/comments/18we2rt/wooting_60he_jade_switches_issues_with_stabilizers/

he also said this, which is weird

[glacial wind]

common problem with long pole switches which share same travel

[untold wigeon]

yeah i saw

[glacial wind]

most people don't notice it though because they might not push down hard enough on one side

[untold wigeon]

but interesting that it only happens with 1 keycap on his side

I will most likely order TX long pole stabs

just to be safe

[glacial wind]

it's cause space bar is so long it's easiest one to dislodge by pushing on one side

i can confirm tx ap long pole works great with 3.5mm travel though

wuque morandi is exactly the same travel and I use them with tx ap long poles

[untold wigeon]

well i guess another piece to the puzzle

[tropic hill]

if i change the switches will i still have all the features from the wooting software? i’m very new to modding sorry

[untold wigeon]

yes

you can only change to HE switches

[tropic hill]

okay ty

[untold wigeon]

@glacial wind for TX AP's it's recommended to go lighter on the lube right

or was that another stab

[glacial wind]

yeah go much lighter on lube. Some people even just use 205g0 instead of normal thicker stab lube

[pale aspen]

tx ap long pole available in plate mount?

[untold wigeon]

no but they are available in snap ins

[glacial wind]

yeah i'm fairly sure it's only the clip ins

[pale aspen]

let me check taobao

[untold wigeon]

they have screw ins and clip ins

for long pole

[untold wigeon]

playe mount no

[pale aspen]

they have long pole for plate mount

from taobao listing

[untold wigeon]

yeah i'd rather not get assfucked by insane shipping costs for $20 stabs

[pale aspen]

i was curious before because module didnt release yet

how would people find long pole for plate mount

[pale aspen]

because TX just update plate mount with new version recently

[cerulean cliff]

https://www.serpentkeys.co.uk/products/tx-ap-plate-mount-stabilisers?variant=45134998241450

[untold wigeon]

is it EU?

[glacial wind]

it's looking for long pole + plate mount

not just plate mount

[untold wigeon]

ye

[pale aspen]

back like 6 months ago, i remember there was no long pole plate mount
only normal platemount

[untold wigeon]

didnt even see

[cerulean cliff]

UK but ships to EU

[untold wigeon]

im good

also those are not long poles

and i will have a module

[cerulean cliff]

it says long pole

[untold wigeon]

so idc

[mental salmon]

@glacial wind what do you think of using Krytox 205 in the 60HE stock stabs? I do not have any other lube atm. I used it in the GMMK Pro stabs a while ago, it went good

[glacial wind]

ah nice

[glacial wind]

well better than nothing but you'd want thicker lube if you have it normally

[pale aspen]

yep it is long pole plate mount

good to see other vendors carry it

[glacial wind]

the only reason people do 205g0 on the tx ap is because the wires are so tight that it's insanely easy to overlube them

[pale aspen]

since tbh, i rare see people use plate mount in normal mech
let alone long pole plate mount

[untold wigeon]

im guessing a light coat of 205 not heavy

[glacial wind]

yeah. Although I know some people that still use xht bdz on it, but they're super careful to be light

[untold wigeon]

nah no way

im not that accurate

[glacial wind]

i never had any ticking just using 205g0 though, people like tx ap because they're so good out of the box normally

[untold wigeon]

the thing i like abt cherry screw ins is you can dip the entire wire in grease and you are done

[untold wigeon]

thats good

[crimson sky]

Cherry clip in + c3 wires too good

[thorny isle]

i want a custom case so if i get the 60he module, switches and keycaps from wooting, is it just a case i would need to make a functioning keyboard?

[untold wigeon]

yes

[thorny isle]

thanks

[untold wigeon]

but at that point just get the alumaze

[crimson sky]

Depending on the case, yes

[untold wigeon]

as the discounts will stack

[thorny isle]

i like the tofu redux style

[pale aspen]

i checked Plate mount long pole released in July 2023

not that long

[mental salmon]

Thanks, I will give it a try, I was thinking also in getting the dielectric grease Taeha recommended in an old video, but Krytox 205 will be it for now

[uncut musk]

yo I saw people saying cotton balls do the same thing as the polyfill was wondering if anyone in here has tried it

[stray tiger]

Cotton is typically not considered a non-flammable material. Id avoid personally.

Polyfill is like $5 for enough to 1000 keyboards

[bronze grove]

At least not unless coated in something fire retardant, which is probably not good for the environment or you 😄

[uncut musk]

thats what i thought, saw some videos people using cotton and was like ehhh

[wind karma]

hey, are dye sub keycaps more durable than double shot?

[bronze grove]

I second polyfill or something similar. I bought a cheap pillow from a hobby store which was filled with it.

[bronze grove]

I think technically the reverse is true?

Dyesub is colour soaked into the plastic. Doubleshot is where you leave a gap in the first mold (the main keycap) for a second fill of something different, typically black in white keycaps or transparent POM for RGB keycaps.

[wind karma]

oh.

i mean

for shine

which will not shine for longer?

I heard dye sub requires more PBT content

[pale aspen]

both will out last you

[bronze grove]

I'd say it's the same. For that aspect it mostly depends on whether you used ABS or PBT as the main keycap material.

[pale aspen]

both will shine

by legend will not fade

[wind karma]

but doubleshot pbt is usually a mix of pbt and abs no?

[pale aspen]

usually first shot is pom

second shot is whatever

[wind karma]

hmm alright

[wind karma]

i see

[pale aspen]

it depends on what color you want

sound too

[wind karma]

dye sub is cheaper than double shot, right?

for manufacturing

[pale aspen]

yep

$17 for qulaity set vs $120

[wind karma]

wat

$17 for a quality set is good lol

[pale aspen]

but for dyesub. you cant have lighter legend than keycap itself

that is why now rarely see black keycap dyesub

[wind karma]

aren’t the wooting dye sub caps more expensive than the ‘normal’ PBT set btw

[wind karma]

oh

[bronze grove]

Yes. But that's because it's a five sided dyesub.

The patterns require it to be soaked on all sides, which is a much more complex process to get accurate.

[pale aspen]

1. choose color way you want
2. choose sound
3. enjoy

[wind karma]

i was thinking of NicePBT Shinbun, idk if its a good choice but it looks p good

[wind karma]

ahh i see

the pbt keycaps on my stock gaming keyboard shine a LOT now

its almost oily looking

[pale aspen]

it is not real pbt haha

expect

[wind karma]

so thats why i’m looking for keycaps with high pbt content

[wind karma]

razer keyboard, and keycaps were nicely textured and advertised as doubleshot pbt

idk if its real but

probably

[pale aspen]

great set

accent key look reverse=dyesub

[wind karma]

huh

reverse dyesub?

[wind karma]

you think it’s good?

[pale aspen]

it is

$80 is steep tho

but normal for US

vendor need profit blah blah

[wind karma]

yeah, i tried hard to look for red keycaps that would look nice

GMK jamon would be nice but thats ABS and i’m not willing to pay that much money for keycaps that will shine

[pale aspen]

if i were you i would choose this way

https://novelkeys.com/collections/dyesub-pbt

pick keycap from Novelekys

two set for free shipping

and try

[glacial wind]

dyesub isn't that bad really, long as it's done well

I care way more about whether the printing and legends are done well than whether it's dyesub or doubleshot these days

[pale aspen]

blurriest dyesub ive used is OTC modo light lol
but i like it color so much than GMK modo light
that prevent it from being sold

[wind karma]

just went through all the sets and none that i think i would like

i’m going for a klippe t red btw

[stray tiger]

I love when they shine. feels so good

[wind karma]

makes me play worse actually

oh well, everyone is different lol

[stray tiger]

You live in a humid area or get sweaty hands?

[wind karma]

i care about it not shining

[pale aspen]

red dyesub set is rarely to come by tho

hmmm

[wind karma]

i actually don’t sweat at all from my hands but i do live in a more humid area yes

[glacial wind]

then you have to buy good pbt keycaps

[wind karma]

yeah

[pale aspen]

https://divinikey.com/products/wuque-ws-basic-red-keycap-set-doubleshot-pbt

[stray tiger]

I missed the earlier msgs, you looking for something to go with a red case?

[pale aspen]

but it is not high percentage PBT like dyesub tho

it will shine

[wind karma]

hmm

well that would’ve been good if it was high PBT percentage

sad

[pale aspen]

if you really like red, you have to compramise

[wind karma]

yup

[stray tiger]

Ohh he wants red keycaps not something to match a red case

[wind karma]

oh i do want somethjng to match to my red case

[pale aspen]

it will shine slower than pure abs

but still

[wind karma]

yup

i’m quite harsh with how i use keycaps though

[pale aspen]

how about white keycap red legend
does that loook great for you?

[wind karma]

i’m pretty sure it will show signs of wear in a year minimum

[wind karma]

that would work yeah

[stray tiger]

So matches red case and is PBT?

Check these out https://iv-works.com/kanketsu/

[pale aspen]

https://21kb.com/products/21kb-keycap-set-customizer

[wind karma]

and will not shine

[pale aspen]

xmi is good

but you limite to white and beige keycap

[pale aspen]

look great

[wind karma]

that looks pretty good, are the keycaps well textured though? i like them to have a slightly rough feel

[stray tiger]

Yeah they are. I think I still have that set, if you want to see better pictures lmk and Ill dig it out

[pale aspen]

only three pbt ive use has smooth surface

epbt crp and mtnu

i assume other would have texture

[wind karma]

if you don’t mind i’d like to see some pictures

[wind karma]

yeah i’d hope

[pale aspen]

for 21kb, i would pick red english legend/ burgandy japanese legend or vice versa

[wind karma]

what do i choose for ‘designs’?

[pale aspen]

would look great on white

what lang legend you want?

[wind karma]

japanese or none

idm

[stray tiger]

Ill dig em out in a bit for you. Until then you can check em out here too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Glws7tV3hYs

[wind karma]

alrighty. thanks

[pale aspen]

just pick classic

[crimson sky]

oh the irony

[pale aspen]

for english only

japan hiragana for hiragana sub legend

[wind karma]

what’s a hiragana?

OH NVM

my bad

i got what you meant

[spiral canyon]

@crimson sky Hah, these are amazing, thank you for the advice! It was only a bit of pain to close the switch because clicky bit was sticking to magnet in stem, but final result is amazing

[crimson sky]

nice to see that you like them

why do you have two uwus

[spiral canyon]

One for left hand, one for right one

[crimson sky]

ambidextrous gaming

[wind karma]

whya is R4 row?

[stray tiger]

I have 2 of these and have yet to unbox either of them. I need more free time to get shit done!

[stray tiger]

Speaking of free time, when my new stream does go live, I just picked up a new mic specifically for switch/keyboard sound testing so that you guys can actually hear the real sound.

[spiral canyon]

Muse Dash gaming
Now, I only have to get my hands on more KS-22s, because Blues are sold out in PL afaik, and I have to figure out better way to open switches - tools are coming in February, and my opener made out of tic tac box gave up after 2 switches

[stray tiger]

No more potato phone mic

[spiral canyon]

Expensive

[glacial wind]

oh that's a nice shotgun mic

[wind karma]

thank you

[wind karma]

don’t shotgun mics pick up sounds from pretty far that are still infront of it

i wish i got one lol

[untold wigeon]

where do u stream at

[stray tiger]

They can, but indoor very directional sound capture, they are the 2nd best choice. The first choice being supercardiod pencil condenser microphones that start at around $1000.

For aiming it straight down towards a keyboard with a pad under it, there should be very little reverb.

[wind karma]

wtf. i was into microphones and stuff two years ago but i never heard of a supercardioid pencil microphone

[stray tiger]

Streams will start once I get my replacement audio interface in and setup. It's not officially announced yet but you can check any of the socials on www.thethockfather.com (or just search your platform of choice for thethockfather)

[stray tiger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVaKstb35LQ

[wind karma]

well shotgun mics are surely cheaper so

i can’t afford a 1k mic rn

[stray tiger]

Ive got a Rode NTG mounted to my main camera pointed at me for overall sound and a Rode PodMic mounted on an arm for when I want to talk without outside sound being an issue and then the Sennheiser MKE 600 for keyboard and directional sound.

[granite mist]

im thinking of one for wfh lol getting tired of my webcam mic and hated using a mic right in front of my face

[frosty sentinel]

I’d recommend the deity vo-7u.. every time I join a call I get compliments on my audio quality

I use the low profile boom arm from elgato.. it stays under my fov and I don’t notice if at all

Had anyone tried Cerakeys with their wooting ?

[agile grove]

quite a few

[frosty sentinel]

I’ve been trying to find a audio test with them.. I’m curious how they would sound with jade switches

[agile grove]

I’ve heard it works fine with L60s but on L45s the spacebar is too heavy. If you think the weight will be a problem even on the L60s then you could wait for the heavier springs.

[stray tiger]

If you want something out of frame, a small shotgun mic would work well (check out Rode VideoMic for example). A good Dyanmic like the one Deadly mentioned (or the Maono PD2000X for 1/3rd of the price) work as well but are tougher to keep out of frame and still sound good depending on your webcam field of view.

[frosty sentinel]

That actually makes sense.. I think the jades are more sensitive and such. So I don’t believe that’ll work. Unfortunately

[stray tiger]

Yeah Id hold off using that combo

[agile grove]

iirc the jades starting force is the same as the L45s, so yeah they prob won’t work.

[frosty sentinel]

I highly recommend the low profile book arm to go with the set up.. like Tirade said, it will help keep the mic out of view. I can upload a picture of my set to give a decent idea of how I use it

[granite mist]

i have the elgato low profile arm, its fantastic but im tired of moving it. I was using it with a q2u

[frosty sentinel]

Ahhh

[wind karma]

damn

[frosty sentinel]

Sometimes ya just need a change in the set up… nothing wrong with that lol

[granite mist]

ive been checking out shotgun and pencil condenser options but haven't pulled the trigger yet

[stray tiger]

Yeah it depends on your FoV. In my case, a low profile arm wouldnt help keep it out of frame

[granite mist]

crisp

[stray tiger]

But for padcasting then I just pull the podmic down

[frosty sentinel]

Makes sense to me

[stray tiger]

But yeah, a small shotgun mic works great and is easy to keep out of frame

[fluid ravine]

Morning pops

[wind karma]

do dyesub legends fade off?

[glacial wind]

yeah I like that setup for wide shots. I was planning the same before I stopped streaming because sometimes you just want to chat without a mic in your face

[bronze grove]

They shouldn't.

[wind karma]

oh

alright

[bronze grove]

The syesub is not surface level. It soaks in good into the material.

You'd have to wear down the entire keycap pretty dang hard 😄

[wind karma]

alright then i thiught it was just at the surface

[stray tiger]

And I use it for work and dont want a big mic in the frame for zoom calls lol

[wind karma]

possiblr with 10 years. i’ll @ you in 2034 and show you the results

[fluid ravine]

Woa
That's sick

[glacial wind]

honestly showing up to work related stuff with S tier mic and camera setup is always amusing, because half the people are on shoddy webcams

it's just so overkill to be on a zoom call with a blurred dslr background

[wind karma]

i like overkill

i’m about to buy a neumann u87ai for comms in counter strike

joking, of course

[stray tiger]

Funny story. I work for one of the largest production studios in the western US and when i interviewed here years ago I went out and bought a nice 1080p camera, a key light and good microphone because I wanted to impress them. As a production company I figured they would be all HD and crisp. NOPE. They were all on shit webcams built into their laptops lol

[velvet egret]

What are some nice looking keycaps to go well with a silver case not 100% satisfied with my spark r2 keycaps

Don’t want abs

[glacial wind]

yeah lol it's amazing how many amazingly well paid people just use their macbook pro webcam and airpods

[stray tiger]

SIlver goes with anything except beige. So a ton of good choices

[agile grove]

airpods? why are you giving them so much credit, they be using the wired earbuds lmao

[glacial wind]

the best is when their fan starts going mid call and you hear the brrr sound

[wind karma]

what’s wrong with airpods

[agile grove]

or you hear their pet in the background

[velvet egret]

Cuz your the Al mighty one who knows, you have any recommendations ?

[agile grove]

bad mic

[wind karma]

ohh okay okay

[glacial wind]

nothing wrong really for occasional stuff, just it's funny when you contrast it to the other guy showing up with a full dslr zoom lens and a shure sm7b

[wind karma]

lol true

do audio interfaces have a lot of latency

i can’t really test

[glacial wind]

nah not if you're using proper wired connection

honestly even wireless you can get low latency options nowadays too

[wind karma]

wireless interfaces? didn’t know those were a thing

i use a cheap Behringer UM2, so i may have latency

idk for sure

[stray tiger]

https://www.youtube.com/@JulianKrause/videos the goat

[stray tiger]

There are hundreds of choices. Do you want light or dark?

[stray tiger]

You can get a nice single mic interface for $75-$100 that has all the features you want and wouldnt be an issue. The competition in that price range is great

[wind karma]

oo

just went through his UM2 review and couldn’t find a latency test though

[wind karma]

what do you think are the best options in that price range? do they noticeably sound better

[velvet egret]

More a fan of a lighter setup

[stray tiger]

Arturia MiniFuse, Focusrite Scarlett Solo or Vocaster One are my Favs

[stray tiger]

Like I said, Silver matches with everything pretty much

[stray tiger]

If you decide you want Vocaster One LMK and Ill make you a hell of a deal on one I bought last month

[wind karma]

ah

[wind karma]

well i’m not looking to buy it atm, and i’m not in the US if that matters unfortunately

[stray tiger]

That would matter. Shipping overseas is a pita lol

[wind karma]

yeah lol.

do they sound different to each other btw

[stray tiger]

Those 3 sounds pretty much identical but you would likely use an EQ with any mic and interface to get it to a sound you like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwxWRkFGE_k

@glacial wind check dm

[glacial wind]

ah, I didn't even see that msg, god bless discords random 'approve dm' thing that only sometimes happens

[tawdry tree]

You can turn it off in settings

It’s the most annoying thing

[velvet egret]

What's the name of those keycaps, do you know?

[uncut musk]

think ive decided on keykobo voc keycaps for my module build

[sand oasis]

lets see how these sound

[harsh dove]

The same as almost any other plate mount stab lol

Main thing with TX AP is they just have tighter tolerances

But pretty much all plate mount stabs sound the same

[sand oasis]

im gonna cope and say they are going to make a huge difference

[harsh dove]

Hahaha alright

[sand oasis]

but ive been having some trouble with my spacebar stabs rattling so that should fix that as wel

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[sand oasis]

im used to cope man im a retired tarkov player

[tawdry tree]

HAAHHAHHAA

[sand oasis]

its a hard addiction to break

finally uninstalled the game after playing every wipe since 11.9

[tawdry tree]

the fact that you’re still alive

is magnificent

in and by itself

[sand oasis]

last wipe push me close to the edge

[granite mist]

never played tarkov, whats a wipe?

[sand oasis]

i cant do it to myself anymore i just want labs to be as good as it was back in the day

[untold wigeon]

when you die

[sand oasis]

wipe lasts roughly 6 months and every resets are the 6 months with major changes to the game including maps guns recoil armour system and stuff like that

you lose everything and restart

[tawdry tree]

it’ll never

[sand oasis]

agreed so i finally quit, how much did you play?

[granite mist]

oof thats brutal, but i guess necessary for the game

[tawdry tree]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-15268759

anyway this channel is for keyboard modding only

[sand oasis]

okay i see

[tawdry tree]

😂

[sand oasis]

surely not more than 5k hours

[tawdry tree]

It’s in many games, makes it fun too.

[tawdry tree]

surelyyy

[sand oasis]

i put in 3k anyway lets leave keep this channel keyboard modding

[granite mist]

anyone have any regrets on modding? i wasted too much time with the blade60 it was too uncomfortable for me

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/no-ragrets-no-regrets-fail-gif-4946750

[glacial wind]

only thing I wasted money on is future usage sets

Like there's no reason for me to have keycaps, custom cable and other bits and pieces for a bubble tea colored setup that I won't be building for another 3 years probably

[granite mist]

not me buying 3 more gmk sets for my 2 keyboards

[stray tiger]

Tons of regrets. Mostly from when I was still learning and I wasted money on things I didnt need chasing problems that didnt exist for an end game that has no end.

[granite mist]

i feel that, been selling stuff i no longer want due to chasing whats popular

[stray tiger]

The biggest issue I see daily, even in this channel (or especially in this channel) is the desite to mod for the sake of modding, without having a reason for the mod, or without a real problem to solve.

People will post a list of "Im doing these 20 mods when I get my board" and have no idea what they are going to accomplish or what the end result will sound like. Often times, they hate it in the end

[granite mist]

oh yeah, ive mostly been modding cosmetic stuff. i do want to switch out my lekkars since i want some tighter tolerences

my favorite are the random "fixes" that one guy discovers and everyone races to do

[sharp yew]

im just happy to try new things

[stray tiger]

I think in the https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399 it starts out by saying that mods should be done with a purpose in mind to solve a specific problem or make a specific change and they should be done one at a time.

[wind karma]

alright then

[stray tiger]

People will order new stabs for their 60HE before even getting their board for example.

[wet hazel]

In my case I need to buy almost everything beforehand, because with only the module, nothing will work

I mean a module + foam as que 'stand' for a keyboard is not the ideal way

[harsh dove]

Yep, I always recommend people do one mod at a time. After learning everything I’ve learned, I barely have any mods on my wooting board imo. But then you have some people with like 20 mods lol

[stray tiger]

Thats a different scenario. Changing to plate mount or screw-in stabs because you want to gummy mount, is solving a problem. Buying a new stabs because you read on reddit some guy who said his stock stabs had a slight tick, is a horrible idea.

[halcyon obsidian]

also you do have like a 300 dollar case which typically takes less modding

[harsh dove]

Tbh I feel like an expensive case isn’t like the end game or anything

You can make a great board in a tofu

Or anything similar

[novel yoke]

Are the new 70 pack switches lubed well enough so I don’t need to?

[halcyon obsidian]

you can make a great board in a tofu I just think it takes more mods

[harsh dove]

Guess it depends on what you’re going for

[wet hazel]

First is having a working keyboard, second put what you want to change or achieve, third do only those things to do what you need/want

Achieving a certain sound on the keyboard is the sum of all parts

[harsh dove]

There’s a lot of placebo in modding too lol

[stray tiger]

I like the Salvation but as CAM said, Ive heard cases under $100 sound just as good.

[harsh dove]

Yeah I love my salvation. I just don’t wanna sit here and recommend people go buy $300+ cases

[crimson sky]

btw is there any reason why most of the standoff holes in the github page are 3.5mm while only one is 2.5mm?

[harsh dove]

Which one is 2.5?

Spacebar?

[crimson sky]

ah

nvm

figured it out

it is holes the silicone pokes through

the grey ones are 3.5mm for the threaded inserts

the blue ones are the silicone

[torn knoll]

hey

which tape should i use on my wooting

for a cool sound?

[uncut musk]

most people just use painters tape

[bronze grove]

Yeah the blue painters tape is good to use

[uncut musk]

you can see a video on it in #🪛│modding_faq

[fluid ravine]

Well would you like at that

Finally

[celest parrot]

I want a high quality keycaps set that is compatible with the HE+ and doesn't shine
I'm new to keyboards in general and from what I gathered cherry profile keycaps are better for gaming and PBT material is best for long lasting and high quality
Am I correct?

If I'm wrong please correct me If you will. and please suggest a good keycaps set

[pale aspen]

depend on but objectively correct

https://novelkeys.com/collections/dyesub-pbt

[celest parrot]

https://novelkeys.com/products/k-2so

[pale aspen]

take a look at Novelkeys

and see what you like

[celest parrot]

Is this one considered good?

[spiral canyon]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[placid blaze]

If you're doing multiple layers then I like to have 1/2 of painter's tape and 1/2 of electrical tape
electrical tape is very sticky though so you have to cover the pcb entirely in painter's tape before using electrical tape

[pale aspen]

novelkeys pbt is good enough for me

[celest parrot]

No shining and legends are printed will?

[pale aspen]

it will last longer than our life technically

shine will take much longer than abs

[spiral canyon]

Wooting keebs are compatible with most Cherry/cross stem keycaps with 1.25u bottom keys and 6.25u space, so... like a most popular layout out there, some sets may not include ISO keys, but should offer them as add-ons #🪛│modding_faq message

[pale aspen]

even then legend wont be rubbed out

just pick color way you like/match keyboard case

[celest parrot]

I get it now

[pale aspen]

1. choose what case color you
2. keycap theme

or vice versa

[celest parrot]

I wanna combo these with the redux case how will that combo sound?

[pale aspen]

depends on other thing too

what sound you want!

thcoky?

[celest parrot]

Yes

[pale aspen]

i would say other keycap would achieve much thockier that is other thing

focus on these

[celest parrot]

Could suggest some please

[pale aspen]

tape mod , plate foam and buy Jade switch

tofu redux + brass weight too

[celest parrot]

Jades require long pole stabs and maybe lubricant them

Too much headache for me hahaha

[pale aspen]

geon raptor he then

[celest parrot]

I'll get them jades

[pale aspen]

tape mod , plate foam and pc plate do most the job

[celest parrot]

I'll buy the HE+

[pale aspen]

if you have $ to spare
grab MT3 PBT from drop

much thockier

[celest parrot]

I have

[pale aspen]

but it is higher profile than cheery
it might affect comfortness

[sudden heart]

I won't recommand mt3 for gaming

[pale aspen]

i would use wristrest lol
but yeah

[celest parrot]

Could you recommend some as I play LOL a lot and I mash my Q a lot

[sudden heart]

just cherry or oem

[pale aspen]

like i said just grab some from novelkeys

i would buy mt3 only when there is BOGO

[celest parrot]

I want one that provides thock sound

[stray tiger]

That's not exactly true.

[celest parrot]

He+
Long pole stabs
Jades
Redux+brass weight
Cherry profile keycaps
Am I missing something?

[sudden heart]

tbh a 30 dollar keycap set from amazon is low key good enough

[stray tiger]

If (and I mean IF) you have a stab imbalance with the jades, you could just buy some o-rings to put around the stab stem to help offset the difference. it wouldnt be required to buy new stabs.

[celest parrot]

Will that be possible with the HE+?

[uncut musk]

the thockfather coming in with the knowledge

[sudden heart]

screw in would only have less intererence with o rings

[crimson sky]

in which case just use clip ins

because they have even less interferrence

[sudden heart]

if you mean gummy o ring

yeah

[celest parrot]

If I use the L45s I won't have this much headache right?

[uncut musk]

i mean i dont think there is much headache with the jades

[celest parrot]

I really liked the screw in stabs in the badseed vid I don't wanna screw them

[sudden heart]

yeah but the lekker doesn't sound good even after lubed

that's more of a headache

[celest parrot]

I agree

[sudden heart]

raptor he should easier to get

but jade sounds better

[celest parrot]

From what I get I could use the jades with the HE+ without changing stabs

[pale aspen]

well i asusme you want tofu redeux

you can order Raptor HE together with redux

[celest parrot]

If I wanna change switch I'll go straight with the jade

[sudden heart]

jade is 10-20 day shipping for $4, 5-7 for $20

[celest parrot]

I have no problem waiting

My apex pro mini will last

[sudden heart]

jade sounds better, raptor /w stem change has less wobble

[celest parrot]

Thank you brother for you time and help👊🏻

I get it now

[sweet cedar]

why would u need to change stabs

[celest parrot]

Because of the 0.5 difference in traveling distance between the Jades (3.5) and the screw in stabs in the HE+ (4.0)
The solution is to get long pole stabs
Don't get my word for it as I'm a novice at keyboards

[glacial wind]

Honestly it can really not be an issue IF you don’t push your sides of spacebar hard or if your keycaps (space mainly) are quite tight

Like plenty of people use wuque morandis on non longpole stabs without having the issue come up

I’d honestly try it out on the stock stabs first and see if you get the issue then only get the tx ap long poles if you do

[harsh dove]

I don’t see it being an issue personally

[queen quail]

Got the Jades in, let’s see if they were worth

[glacial wind]

One thing that will change though is the sound profile between long pole and non long pole stabs will be different on that space bar specifically

[celest parrot]

Which sounds better?

[glacial wind]

It’s personal preference. Neither really is better but because they sit slightly different heights you will notice a slight sound change

[halcyon obsidian]

I usually recommend not going with long poles unless the feeling bothers you, as if you choose to swap to a switch with a 4.0mm travel distance it isn’t ideal

[crystal ibex]

quick question, Ive seen ppl doing lekker L60 stem with raptor he shell to reduce wobble

does this also apply to L45

[halcyon obsidian]

I believe the difference in L60 and L45 is just the spring but I may be wrong

[crystal ibex]

yea thats what im thinking but just want to double check

[harsh dove]

Only difference is the spring

You can stem swap the 45s

[crystal ibex]

Cool thanks!

[fluid ravine]

Yes both switches are the same so it can be applied to the l45 as well
like sindria said the difference in both switches are the springs

[crystal ibex]

thats good to know appreciate the answers

[halcyon obsidian]

can you please do a sound test whne you finish?

[shell geode]

Has anyone swapped the Jade stems with the Lekkers in the Jade housing? Does that even work? What does it sound like?

[uncut musk]

Im using the morandis rn on non longpole stabs and have no problem

[fluid ravine]

@harsh dove you think you can do this?

[uncut musk]

cam been putting in the hours LMAO

[harsh dove]

Haven’t tried

And I almost feel like it might not work because of the longer magnet

And the closed vs open bottom housings

[fluid ravine]

honestly i can only rely on CAM now

lmao

[uncut musk]

is there a thread with all his sound tests

[fluid ravine]

no

[sand oasis]

if you search jade:has video you should be able to find them easy enough

[uncut musk]

i got all the vids pulled up

[queen quail]

Case is the Alumaze60 with some basic mods and Akko WOB keycaps MDA profile

[halcyon obsidian]

the audio is quiet but it sounds awesome

im so excited for my build but I still got probably another 3-4 week until everything gets here

so far here and on the way I got:
Tofu redux: black
brass weight
wooting+ module
lekker L60 switches
wrist rest
jade switches
tx ap rev 4 stabs
pe switch pads
50a o-ring
kbdfan keycaps
more 205g0
polyfill

[valid sun]

Hey, does anyone know where to buy a good pbt black pudding keycaps set in iso format ?
I Live in Europe if that can help.

[spiral canyon]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

List of shops, lots of EU ones too 👍

[valid sun]

Thanks 👍

[fluid ravine]

sound test

im liking the way this list looks

[halcyon obsidian]

I'll get back to you at the end of the month

lol

[fluid ravine]

xd

[dapper hazel]

that wouldnt be a keebmat then though :P

you also dont want the porous rubber touch the alu, would stick to it and rub off, better to have a fabric layer

keebmats are 20% off right now btw.
https://fxtwitter.com/keebmatcom/status/1741804497767211174

(which includes thockfilm and keebtape, which can be handy with wooting/ks20)

[stray tiger]

Thanks! Are you with keebmat?

[dapper hazel]

I have one with me at all times yes :)

and yes ;)

[stray tiger]

I mean I have one I'm using right now too, I just meant are you associated with them?

[dapper hazel]

TAMBEEK :)

[stray tiger]

haha for sure

If you were with them I was going to buy another right now just as an appreciation for a vendor popping in to say hey

[dapper hazel]

haha only buy one if you really need one - i know japanese users buy a lot of keebtape and the thockfilm for their wootings

(so do I use them in my 60he)

[stray tiger]

I could use a 75/TKL one for the upcoming Wooting 80HE, so I'll buy one as thanks.

[astral reef]

anyone know why this app cant find my keyboard?

i have fizz k617

[untold wigeon]

what

[stray tiger]

Likely conflicting software from another accessory

[untold wigeon]

are you using wootility to find ur non wooting?

[bronze grove]

[astral reef]

oh its specific

[untold wigeon]

BOY aint no way

[bronze grove]

And there it is.

[astral reef]

really its name of brand?

omg

[untold wigeon]

bro

[stray tiger]

Order placed. Ends with 149. Thanks for the discount code

[untold wigeon]

not to be rude or anything, but that has to be the dumbest thing ive read today.
yes WOOTility is WOOTINGS specific software that only works on wooting kbs

[spiral canyon]

But WOOTomation is not

[untold wigeon]

he should use wootomation then

[astral reef]

I had never heard of it

[dapper hazel]

thank you :)

[astral reef]

my bad sorry

[untold wigeon]

howd u hear of wootility and not found a wootign?

and what were you gonna do on wootility on your non wooting kb?

[astral reef]

friends

[dapper hazel]

there’s third party software that works with wooting boards?

[astral reef]

he just said get this app and you can conifg and etc

[dapper hazel]

*desktop software

[untold wigeon]

no lol

or maybe

[dapper hazel]

ah alright, would’ve been strange if that worked

[untold wigeon]

ur friends a real nut

[astral reef]

Xd

ty alot

sorry about that

[untold wigeon]

buy a wooting!

[stuck prawn]

Hi everyone, i'm looking for feedback about mod on the TWO HE if some of you have done it : )

[fluid ravine]

oh wassup keebs

remember your pfp
instaantly recognized

[dapper hazel]

:)

also got the corp link in the profile so it’s obvious haha

[stray tiger]

I saw the link but didnt click it haha.

[fluid ravine]

i didnt even see it in first place

lel

[fluid ravine]

The Thockfather

can i be The Thockson

[stray tiger]

I guess I have to start embracing it before the streams start.

[fluid ravine]

👍

[dapper hazel]

haha it’s sfw

[fluid ravine]

so may i? :p

[agile grove]

can I be the thockdoesntownawooing?

yet™️

[untold wigeon]

damn

[fluid ravine]

lel

starting a new era

[untold wigeon]

real

[fluid ravine]

new year new us

[untold wigeon]

ye

[velvet egret]

^oh lord

[agile grove]

we need a clackking

[stray tiger]

I love you guys lol

[untold wigeon]

its called Lekker 60

[agile grove]

what?

the raptors are clacky

[fluid ravine]

love you too pops

[agile grove]

lekkers are just kinda their own thing but leaning more thocky (I think)

[fringe egret]

anyone here got jade switches from gateron.com? wondering about shipping time, ordered 3 days ago and still awaiting shipping so just wanna get a time frame of when i will get them

[untold wigeon]

absolutely not

[agile grove]

they sound more thocky to me (after being handlubed ofc), but imo that doesnt rlly matter because raptors are still more clacky.

[sudden heart]

Fighting plate mount

🙃

[untold wigeon]

jesus

[fluid ravine]

fighting plate actually

[harsh dove]

I’ll be Father Salvation

[fluid ravine]

:D

[harsh dove]

wtf am I looking at

[quiet bay]

and I'm just here

[harsh dove]

I could be The Switch Father

Since I buy all the HE switches

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-ash-pokeball-gif-21700553

[stray tiger]

It works though

[spiral canyon]

Finally made an AI to spit out something that's not utter garbage

[untold wigeon]

howd u create that

[fluid ravine]

oh yeasah

YESSSSSS

[spiral canyon]

https://www.bing.com/create, 15 "creations" for free a day

[untold wigeon]

bruh i gotta log in

[halcyon obsidian]

W

[stray tiger]

Im stealing it

If only we could make him bald

[bronze grove]

I mean... inpainting could probably do that.

[stray tiger]

Damn now I gotta go mess around haha

Ok now we are getting somewhere

[stray tiger]

Ok, Im done and sticking with that. It's too good.

[fluid ravine]

whatchu put

[stray tiger]

Well my gf said the beard isnt white enough so now Im tweaking it lol

[fluid ravine]

lel

[fluid ravine]

whaat did you put for your image
i wanna make one myself :p

[stray tiger]

Oh I just used Calslock's image and prompted it to make the guy bald and younger. It just took a while. Now Im trying to make the beard white...

getting closer

Not going to spam this in here anymore though. Gotta stay on topic!

[fluid ravine]

lol

trying to figure out what to tell the AI

[stray tiger]

I dunno, just upload that image and say something like "Recreate this image but imagine him as a 15 year old Asian lad and change the words to The Thockson"

[fluid ravine]

how i upload the image

[spiral canyon]

Just use keywords, like in search engine
Something like A Godfather movie poster, instead of Godfather title put Thockfather in the same font, holding a computer keyboard and repeat until you get something you like

[stray tiger]

Oh maybe you can't upload attachments on some platforms? I have a paperclip icon

[spiral canyon]

Yeah, you can't on Bing AI

[fluid ravine]

hmmmmmmmmm

[stark osprey]

have you guys seen these ?

[stray tiger]

Looks pretty intensive but nice

[stark osprey]

i kinda wanna wait for them, but est delivery of may is going to drive me nuts haha

[stray tiger]

Are they all hand painted?

[stark osprey]

I think so? cause these one's are:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8z_tfh4NJ4

same company

[stray tiger]

Love it.

[quiet bay]

Did I just witness the evolution from Tirade to The Thockfather

[harsh dove]

Probably slightly off what factory specs actually are, but these were measured with my calipers.

With some margin of error

[dapper hazel]

who makes the raptor ones? jade and lekker are both gateron, they should be fairly identical

[quiet bay]

Geonworks

[dapper hazel]

nah thats not a factory

geon sells the raptor switches?

[quiet bay]

ooo

[dapper hazel]

Fully compatible with GEONWORKS VENOM HE PCB.

oh he made a HE board? totally missed that

looks like its also gateron

[quiet bay]

ye they do

[dapper hazel]

pretty heavy springs in comparison

[finite gate]

no left thumb

[stray tiger]

Geon sells them, not sure who makes them but I have a few ideas. There are currently 6 or 7 different manufacturers making HE switches

[pale aspen]

their pcb is compatible with tiger lite which is great

[tawdry tree]

This is interesting. This means the Jades have a normal KS-20/Lekker stem which would explain Gateron’s naming as well.

Could you measure the bottom housing/the rails where the stem sits?

For the KS-20s and the Jades?

[dapper hazel]

looks like those switches have magnet issues and gateron apparently announced their patent filling right after they came out...

[tawdry tree]

To compare

[tawdry tree]

Raptors have a magnet issue?

[dapper hazel]

sounds like some people complained about inconsistent magnets

[tawdry tree]

Oh haven’t heard that before

[stray tiger]

Interesting. I heard that Gateron had a patent claim against Neo Studio (Qwertykeys) who had that issue with a Jade clone. I had not heard that about the Raptors though - https://twitter.com/FRemare/status/1740375846693810348

[dapper hazel]

two people independently said there were talks about that

[tawdry tree]

Interesting

[dapper hazel]

jades are KS-20-H btw.

https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/AvmKzY36zRba

and that was the funny patent post